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Caught Stealing Reviewed: Style Over Substance, Soundtrack Debated, And A Nihilistic Finish

Ryan Baron North and James Crosslin Episode 96

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What Movie Should We Do Next?

We rate Darren Aronofsky’s Caught Stealing a clean three, then pull apart why it moves fast but leaves a faint aftertaste. The cast delivers competence, the camera delivers polish, and the story leans on old tropes that drain the emotion it tries to spark.

• rating the film across acting, cinematography, soundtrack, story, rewatchability
• Austin Butler’s strengths in stylized roles versus interior drama
• Matt Smith’s scene-stealing energy and Regina King’s dialed-up cop
• trailer shots versus cinematic surprises in set pieces
• Guy Ritchie echoes in pacing and needle drops
• the fridging trope and why it blunts character stakes
• nihilistic ending and symbolic accountability
• how chaos films earn meaning when choices drive consequences
• our fixes: go full absurdist, or deepen moral cost
• a final consensus at three out of five


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Cold Open And Low Energy Vibes

SPEAKER_03

Alright. You can tell how energized we are after this movie.

SPEAKER_04

The energy's low.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know how to feel about this movie. Well, hey everybody. Welcome to High Podcast. I'm your host, Ryan Barron North, with me as always, James Crosklin, Luke, and we are going to be discussing well. What the fuck? Oh, the Sarah Silverman program.

SPEAKER_03

I thought that show was too infantile when it was running on Comedy Central, and I was like 11 years old.

SPEAKER_00

This is dumb. Well, you know what was weird? Because like since since then, I've like I think Sarah Silverman's pretty good. I like a lot of her work, and so I don't understand why her show was just such hot garbage.

SPEAKER_03

What were you saying, Luke?

SPEAKER_01

I've never seen I've never seen even heard of the Sarah Silverman program. I didn't know she had a show like that.

SPEAKER_03

But you're but you know who's Sarah Silverman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Familiar with Sarah Silverman. Just didn't know she had like her own little like TV show. Looks very low budget. I think she's really funny. She talked on John Mulaney's uh show about how she has a nighttime routine where she smokes weed. So she her routine is she flosses first and then smokes and then brushes her teeth. And and and she was like, I could floss. I mean, I could smoke first, but flossing takes me like an hour after I do this. I thought it was gonna be that she never never actually just never flosses because she forgets every time. I don't need to, it's fine.

Bait-And-Switch From TV Chat

Introducing Caught Stealing And Format

SPEAKER_00

Well, so for uh those of you joining this first time, we're not actually gonna be talking about Sarah Silverman, even though that'd be a fantastic podcast. Of course. In fact, we're gonna be discussing our movie of the week. This week we're gonna be doing talking about caught stealing a new outing from fucking this group.

SPEAKER_03

Darren Aronofsky.

SPEAKER_00

There he is.

SPEAKER_03

Darren Aronofsky, a very acclaimed director.

What We’re Smoking And Drinking

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, he made this film, and uh we're gonna be talking about it. We're we're gonna break it down into three parts. All right, we're gonna start by giving you the definitive rating on this film. One out of five stars. We'll let you know. It's gonna make Fandango and Rotten Tomatoes just look infantile as uh the Sarah Silverman program. Then we are going to delve into the golden path and figure out the higher uh pieces of this film. And finally, we are going to insert ourselves drugs or alcohol into the film. And what makes it so special, unique, and just magical for everyone listening is that we're going to be doing it drunk and high. So, uh fellas, what are you smoking this week?

SPEAKER_01

Oh shoot, you go first, James.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I just put whatever we'd add left over in this role. And uh I think that's what the movie wants, right? It wants that level of commitment. Obviously. That's pretty much what it's talking about. We'll we'll get to it. I've got a cosmic cherry this week. Uh a flower, no, no uh distill it today.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I think this might be gelato. I guess I could take a conjecture. I think it's gelato. I think there was gelato in the movie, if I'm not mistaken, at one point. Was there? No. Did you go for gelato? No, okay. I have no clue.

SPEAKER_00

If you if I went back and watched and saw that he went for gelato, I wouldn't be surprised.

SPEAKER_03

I basically only remember the fact that Austin Butler and Zoe Kravis were in the movie. That's my deepest recollection of it. Leave Schreiber.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Vincent D'Anofrio. Oh, I'm not saying like the cast wasn't good, I'm just saying that's all I can remember. Like, I just not it nothing stuck to my brain. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And Regina King actually was pretty solid too in the in the movie. Like, I feel like I don't know if that was like what the character was supposed to be, like, because it was very over the top, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It was it was a film.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'll I'll be joining you guys with Uncle Nearest's 1884 small badge whiskey. It's let's see. It's uh 46 percenter, 93 horsepower. Um, we'll see how it goes. So this first uh toast, first hit, this one is gonna go out to our newest listeners, and they are coming at us from. I always forget to just actually go ahead and click the fucking button on who's watching our stuff. But anyway, um, our newest listeners are from oh well, I'm sure I feel like we've gotten them before, but apparently not.

SPEAKER_03

The Democratic Republic of North Korea again?

SPEAKER_02

Again.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I got two. So I got uh well, I actually have a bunch. So we got um Walsale, Walsall, W-A-L-S-A-L-L, and Chicago, Illinois. Okay. I don't know. It's in Walsall Walsall.

SPEAKER_03

Walsall Walsall. Probably Germany. We have a we have a German listener at least.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, and then there is the Paramaribo district. Paramaribo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Walsall is, I believe, a in England because yeah, it's in England. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And Sakeles, wherever that is. Seychelles. I'm learning Yeah, Seychelles, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, someone off and uh someone's using a VPN. I have no idea where I there's no way we have a listener in Seychelles.

Shoutouts, Geography Tangent, And Toasts

SPEAKER_00

I mean, we're just I'm learning so much about geography. Well, anyway, here's the Seychelles.

SPEAKER_03

Cheers. I mean, I wish we were all there and not just routing our VPNs through it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that was unpleasantly surprising.

SPEAKER_01

Found out a new favorite.

SPEAKER_00

That wasn't bad at all. We're gonna go in for another another toast. So the second shot, second toast, second hit. This one goes after the film this week. Hot feeling. Interesting. Yeah, this is uh like it's got a it's got a sting that you don't usually get from a 93.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, in a good way or a bad way. I was about to say, in a bad way?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, in a in a good way. I I don't mind this at all.

SPEAKER_03

That's good. Mine smokes like a cannabis. Every time I have a shot of anything, I go, ooh, that's yucky.

SPEAKER_04

I uh I have to say women don't really find it attractive.

SPEAKER_05

Yucky. My tummy hurts.

SPEAKER_00

Uh final toast, final shot. This one goes out to Matt Smith's Mohawk.

Matt Smith Cameo And Cast Reactions

SPEAKER_03

Fuck yeah, that's it. Sure, yeah, yeah. The bald cap they put on it was super funny, though. Like it bulged out at the top of his head. Like he knew there was hair underneath it, you know. Oh yeah. Funny bald cap.

SPEAKER_00

It was interesting seeing uh him pop up uh in just like a random side roll like this. You know, I know he's rolling around in all that uh House of the Dragons money these days.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03

I always Doctor Who. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I mean Doctor Who as well. So I mean I feel like it was a just a fun roll for him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you do five for your career, one for you, five for your career, one for you. So I hear, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Well, which do we think this is, his career or for him?

SPEAKER_00

Uh well, I don't know if it did his career any favors, but uh I don't know if it did anyone's career any favors. I I think it may have hurt Austin Butler. I I'm wondering how many chances we're getting ready to give this guy.

SPEAKER_03

I honestly didn't think Austin, I I didn't find um to be that bad in the movie. I found the writing of the movie worse than him specifically. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like Well, I thought the actors were generally pretty good. Yeah, the actors were generally pretty good, but like I've seen a few things now with Austin, but first I I don't know what deal he signed, but I feel like uh why he's blowing up. He's being force fed to me, and each thing I see him in, it's always meh. You know, there was no friggin' role where I'm like, oh, this guy's gonna be huge. No, it's just I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

The Elvis role was pretty, pretty like iconic for me. I feel like he really did well. Really? Yeah, my grandma, who is like she might be the biggest Elvis fan of all time. I don't know for sure, but she's definitely trying to compete. Um she was even impressed with his performance of uh Elvis. Yeah, so um he did get a lot of allods for that. He got an award for it, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I believe I believe so too. Yeah, he really did do a good job, but to the point that even after the movie, apparently his voice had changed. Like he literally talked forever differently because of the role.

SPEAKER_04

Or he just liked sounding fucking silky smooth like Elvis. I know I would. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Heath Leather Leah, heath ledger jokered his way into the Elvis role.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there was a oh sorry, go ahead. Just a less tragic ending for his. Well, there's still time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Keep him away from the Olsen twins. Does anyone have a bead on Olson twins?

SPEAKER_03

Something I just found out looking at his past is that he was a Disney teen. Yeah, I did know that already. I did not know that. So that may be why you're getting fed him, fed force fed him, is because he was a Disney teen. He was in an iCarly spin-off or movie or something. He was in uh one of the things he was like a love on interest of Carly, I I believe. Uh, and then he was also a love interest of Zoe, Zoe, and Zoe 101. Like kind of one of those like Nickelodeon Disney kids.

SPEAKER_00

Gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

All right. Then he was in Dune Part 2, and I was like, yeah, Austin Butler. Yeah, that's it actually now that that's another role where I mean he fucking killed that role. That was slap some shit on him, and he's great. Yeah. He was good in that one. I'll give him that. You gotta slap some shit on him. If you slap some shit on him, he he just knocks it out of the park, whether it's some Elvis gear or you know, a ball cap. You throw some sideburns or a bald cap on Austin Butler, and he is fucking deadly. He's good to go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I watched that motorcycle movie with him and Tom.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't want I didn't ever catch that one.

SPEAKER_00

It was very meh, very, very meh.

SPEAKER_04

Was it that accent was very jarring, at least for the previews that I had seen. Oh yeah.

Austin Butler: Hype, Roles, And Range

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was it was very meh. Well received, kinda seems to be. I mean, and it looked like they had high hopes for it, but I don't know, just uh I guess the interest wasn't there. I I think there's just too many uh just kind of strange connotations with motorcycle groups these days, you know. It's hard to overlook all the white supremacism.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it didn't I think let's dive on in. So we're gonna it's time to rate this movie. So Caught Stealing. What'd you guys think? What are your scores on the matter? James, you want to kick it off?

SPEAKER_03

I want yeah, I'll kick it off. Okay, so I'll quickly run through the scores because most of what I have to say is about like filmmaking, right? In general, and how how how it changed how it evolves and we change with it. And that's too much for this first section. I'm gonna say acting, I thought everyone did a pretty good job. I didn't think it was amazing. I didn't think they knocked out the charts. I was I was engaged, but I wasn't like, wow, Austin Butler is like fucking, I can feel his pain. None of that. I just watched him, I watched him feel the pain, and I was like, oh, what would that be like if someone actually felt that because Austin Butler did not convince me? Uh but also I just found out he's in The Dead Don't Die, which was an awful movie with a star study cast. Maybe we should review that one day if you guys ever want to torture yourselves. Oh it's like that's it's it's like possibly the worst movie I've ever seen. Okay. Star Study cast, Bill Murray, fucking Adam Driver, like all kinds of people. Um I'm trying to think. Uh who was the who was the cop again? Uh that was Regina King. Regina King, yeah. Yeah, I her role, like she got the I feel like everyone here got the the script. Like they they understood what they were supposed to be going for. They got the goal. But I also felt like a character like that was like parodied all the way back in 2008 with uh uh Pineapple Express, Rosie Perez's character is a cop in that movie, and she like and she does the she though. That's all I was thinking about was her the whole time, and I was like, she did all of this, but like funnier and like and did it with the right intensity. But she like but they're they were just doing that role but straight, and and I felt that for a lot of the acting was just it was all competent, but none of it blew me away. So I'd give that like a 3.5. Um next, cinematography. I think the cinematography was pretty good. I like some of the follow shots, like when he picks up the bat, but but a lot of the shots that I really loved were in the trailer. To be fair, like they picked like the best shots of the movie and put them in the trailer. They the like the scene where uh uh Doctor Who has the fucking oozy and and like uh any any kind of shoots in that arc because it's out of control and shit. Like that stuff was in the trailer. I knew that scene was gonna happen before, and I like the look of it. But because it didn't really surprise me, I'm gonna give it like a four. It had some really good follow scenes though. Uh score and soundtrack, it it felt like a guy richie movie. I call I called that. If you guys remember, before we went to go see this movie, you did. I was like, I was like, this is a fucking guy. I've seen this guy richie movie like 14 fucking times. I've seen you were like, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00

It's all Guy Ritchie fucking makes. Um even when he did King Arthur, it was the same fucking movie.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. And this this feels like 20 years late to the party for like us liking like us finding us. Everyone wanted to be him for a little while there, yeah. And and it's got the same fucking punk soundtrack and the same like you know, high-intensity driving, whatever it's whatever's on, you know. It it felt like they just took it out of one of those movies, and so I gotta I gotta give it a two. I wonder how someone who's younger and didn't watch all of the have you seen the guy Ritchie movies, uh uh Luke? No, not really. Like Lock Lockstock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch.

SPEAKER_00

Um we all wanted to pull a heist back in 2000.

SPEAKER_03

Rock and Roller. Did you see Rock and Roller? Nope. None of them. So we haven't seen any of those. So I'm really interested in what your perspective is gonna be because for me, I was like, this feels this feels old. This feels this feels like like something that's going on. Yeah, I do have a I would say different thoughts on the on the soundtrack for it. First, I I felt like it was relevant, it was really relevant. So I don't know, three story and plot. Man, I really hated that they fridged Zoe Kravitz. Like that's I mean, sh I guess you know, they're like, it can happen, you know, people die. And but it's like fridging a uh a woman to motivate a guy is like a pretty old trope. You can still motivate people with deaths and stuff and not be it specifically fridging a love entrance.

SPEAKER_01

Should have should have should have killed the mom, honestly.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, kill the mom. The f the fridging or or or I don't know, he doesn't have anyone he cares about in his life. Yeah. His mother and Zoe Kravitz. But they should they they could have instead of made it Zoe Kravitz, they could have had him with a friend. It didn't have to be a woman, like fridging, specifically for people who don't know the term, is a trope where a woman is killed, and it's the motivating factor for a man to like grow. You know, like that's what that it's a it's a common trope that was specifically made fun of in com I think it was a comic book with where the where a liter where literally a body was displayed in a fridge and it was like now I have my mission and and that's and that's like what happened in this movie. Uh and that sucks. That's that's old. Everything feels really out of place, anachronistic. We like we like not made for me watching in the modern era. I know it was set in the past also, but I'm not in the past. It's gotta be it's gotta engage me more than that and and elevate it. So story and plot, I give it three because it was still capable and it had little twists sometimes. But I saw like the the car crash coming from a mile away. Yeah, like both both of them. It didn't surprise me. Rewatchability. I don't know if I'll ever rewatch this movie. I would be willing to re-watch it if someone came to me and was like, Oh, I feel like you missed this part or something. I would rewatch this movie. I wouldn't be like, oh god, I have to rewatch that fucking movie. Be like, okay, I have to rewatch this movie. Uh so I'd give it like a 2.5. I think those are pretty funny. It's a competent movie, you know. Darren Aronofsky, uh like his other movies, while I don't really enjoy them, I felt like they like pushed the line a little more. Things like Requiem for a Dream and Black Swan, they like pushed.

SPEAKER_04

The whale too, it was really like a whale. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like they pushed things a little farther, but this felt really nihilistic, and at the end, with him having like all the money and stuff, and it just felt really dirty where he was like, Okay, yeah, now I can start my life again. Everything's cool, I got a bunch of money, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_00

Or, you know, it was uh the only people I cared about are fucking dead, and you know, I paid the other one off, so I don't need to worry about that either.

SPEAKER_05

So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No, it was very nihilistic, and yeah, it kind of it didn't, it definitely didn't leave it had a happy ending, air quotes. But it didn't leave me happy, that's for fucking sure. Um yeah.

Time To Rate The Movie

SPEAKER_03

And he he as a person who's not accustomed, well, he saw one person die and it fucked him up really bad. He certainly sees a lot of people die and like doesn't really uh I feel like most of us would have more of a problem. Yeah, he's he pretty much just it's just like almost normal for him. You'd think he'd almost have PST uh PTSD from like the first time it happened, and then be like anytime it happens after that it triggers him, but nope. Yeah, um yeah, Ivan collapse crying with the money instead of like instead of like just being like, yeah, I'm not gonna go to the bar, I'm gonna go to the beach. Yeah, all it takes is four mil cash to kill alcoholism. That's it's a fact.

SPEAKER_00

Apparently, I mean honestly, I I'd give it a try.

SPEAKER_03

You'd end up spilling four million dollars on alcohol. You'd be like, I'm going to go buy a bunch of alcohol for myself and other people every day.

SPEAKER_00

It's gonna be great. It's gonna be amazing. Yeah, for me, uh acting, uh everyone was competent. Like everyone had a job to do, and they did the job.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No one really particularly stood out, did any better than anyone else. The only one I would say was any different was um Matt Smith.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Doctor Who I was thinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um he he was the only one who's you know, I mean, his character was actually freaking memorable.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Like the fact that he he like played a squirrelly kind of like morally uncuous, but like I mean, not unctuous, like repugnant. Like he's not a like he's clearly not a good guy, but he's also like a weasel and he doesn't want to do it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh well, I also appreciate that he really was just out there seeing his fucking dad over the stroke.

SPEAKER_04

I did like that as well.

Acting, Cinematography, And Soundtrack Scores

SPEAKER_00

Um, but yeah, acting, I I I wouldn't I give it a three. It's just yeah, it was competent. It was okay. But cinematography, again, the job was done. Uh nothing in particular stood out in any sort of way. Um everything I saw was essentially recycled. It it well, you know, it was just it was an old frickin' um rock and roll. It was just another goddamn lock stock. And he used a lot of the old stuff that we saw before, where like the event happens, we see what happens, and you know, and like you see the aftermath, and then we fill in the pieces, and it's like, look, I've been here before, I've seen this. You know, you're not bringing anything new to the table here.

SPEAKER_03

And I and that's the thing, is I wonder if like it's when we see when we see when we saw something the first time and someone else was like, nah, man, like that was that's that's a thing that was in Casablanca. We're like, well, I liked the way it was done now, like it's my generation doing it. But I think I I'm trying my best to give the this fucking movie like any kind of ground to stand on. But the thing is, it puts itself back in the past on its own. It's not me doing it, it's doing it to itself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's for that the cinematography, I'd give it a three. The soundtrack, it did not distract, but it it never really brought me home. So honestly, I the soundtrack I'll give it 2.5. Nothing wild or crazy there.

SPEAKER_03

I know it was punk music.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, and like the story was just kind of strung together by accidents. Like, you know, normally it's like this happens, therefore this happens, but this happens, therefore this happens. And this movie was just this happened, therefore you did this. And then this happened, therefore he did this. And it's like, okay. Good for him. I'm glad it worked, he got involved millions of dollars at the end by just a series of random events and being generally unbothered by death. You know. Yeah, so for that story and plot I give it a two. And rewatchability, you know, it was competently done. And I see I can see a universe where I watch it again because it's on, or someone who hasn't seen it wants to see it, and I'm alright, fine, fine. Um so for that I'll give uh rewatchability a two and a half.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, they're respectable scores. Well, with that being said, I I have to say the the movie for me was pretty just in the middle. I knew right away, like, after I got out of it, I was like, okay, that was like fun, like, but I feel like movies, this movie and movies like this try to go on to that like those levels of like chaotic action, um, like like Monkey Man or Kill Bill or like those like hyper violent um action movies where it's like just chaos throughout it, but it doesn't go over the line and kind of like really lean into it. And it and I that it did leaves you wanting more. Uh because the action scenes were kind of cool, but like left me wanting more. I everything just left you wanting a little bit more. But acting, I do think was relatively competent. There was nothing that stood out. I ended up giving it a 3.5. I think it was we were all kind of on the same page as far as um that everyone was did what they had to do, but no one's winning Oscars by a long shot for this movie. Um the cinematography I really thought was probably one of the higher notes of the movie. I think it like the action sequences, especially, like you I loved what you said the following shots. Really good, like I enjoyed those, but I don't think that again they did much that was um revolutionary for the industry. I gave it a four. Now this the soundtrack, you guys were pretty hard-I liked it a lot. Like, even I I don't remember a lot of like the songs, but I did enjoy it. Um and maybe it's because I haven't like seen a lot of these movies, and I, you know, I didn't really watch the guy Richie films before, but um it did it, it was it I thought it was good, and I remembered even to today I was sitting here like thinking about it before we got on, and I'm like, man, I kind of really like that soundtrack. Like I was like, I was felt like I was rocking out the whole song. Well, I would I like defer to you. Huh? I I I honestly if it was like if it was me giving my score last, I'd be like, I'd be like, I defer to Luke. I'm sorry, Colorado. I had to check your name for today. I'm Colorado today. I defer to Colorado. Um I can't remember. I just don't fucking remember.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, for me though, it was just um like because I remember the guy Richie films, he did use music well. Like even just looking at like Rock and Roll, you know, was about a bunch of rock stars and he used really solid music. He obviously took a lot of time, and then like the the title song he chose for it fit perfectly and it was reused in appropriate ways. Here it just kind of seemed like a uh mixed match of an LP. Um so I I appreciated the soundtrack. I like what he tried to do with it. It's just he didn't turn it into, you know, like it wasn't the um fucking the the fucking Star Wars of crime movies in as far as the soundtrack went, you know.

Plot Tropes, Fridging, And Tone Problems

SPEAKER_03

It was like I think it's like vanilla ice cream of like soundtracks, and it's not it's not bad. And you can have like a really good vanilla ice cream, but when your brain is like is like, okay, I'm gonna have vanilla ice cream, it goes down smooth. You know, it doesn't it doesn't really for some reason it just did not stand out to me. I was like, I had a thing in my mind that I was expecting, and I and it just went down smooth. Oh Luke, you're you're I think in general the um that's just the whole movies. It doesn't like it's not that memorable. Like it it really isn't. Um but I I I enjoyed it and I remember be enjoying it actively during the movie. Um whether I like rem you know can pull that joy again. No, but I do remember it during the movie, like like kind of like giving some like like rock on like I just I liked it. I thought it uh set the chaos for the for the shots. Um the story plot was it again, it's it's one of those things where it's right in the middle. It it was entertaining, it pushes the move the story forward, um, but it does lackluster. Uh I think that they didn't I I agree I wanted I I liked the dynamic between Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler, actually. Um and I would have enjoyed seeing it more throughout the film um as them working as more of a duo. Um but unfortunately um they didn't go that direction. So um but I and uh other than that I I really couldn't even I don't have like vivid memories of the movie. I obviously remember um the the the story as a whole, but I like I'm like uh yeah, caught stealing. Like I just I had like a few notes and that's about it. So um but I gave the story a three. It was very in the middle for me. And then rewatchability I gave a two. It's one of those things that someone like you said, if someone else wanted to watch it with me, or it was on in a hotel room, that's a good like go-to for me. If it if it earns a hotel room watch, it gets a two. So I gave it a two. Um because I probably would watch it. But if I would watch it like when I'm at the hotel and that's the only thing on, yeah. Well, I'd watch God Stealing. But fair enough. I'd probably fall asleep during this movie. Yeah, yeah. I'm almost certain that I've fallen asleep during a Guy Ritchie movie. Oh, sure. Because I was like, this action is just it goes down so smooth. So smooth. It's just And that gives us the total of three. A straight three. Straight shot three. A three point zero shot. Straight three. Yeah, three point zero. Yeah, that's very, very fair for the movie.

SPEAKER_00

I a hundred percent agree. It's always fair. It's always fucking fair.

SPEAKER_03

You know? Except I I I no, we're you're right, it's always fair.

SPEAKER_00

Always fucking fair.

SPEAKER_03

But I also think that there's plenty of people that would really enjoy this movie. Genuinely. It just it it's not I always am I feel like now like kind of uh uh yearning more when I when I go to the movies. So um I definitely feel like sometimes I'm I'm probably watching with a harder lens than than the movie deserves, and so I think a lot of people would still enjoy this movie quite well.

SPEAKER_00

You are one of the hosts uh of a podcast that calls in tens of fans, one of whom is coming at us from that new fucking place. The Seychelles. Seychelles. And so you have an obligation to not let bullshit to hold that lens, I agree. So good for you, good on you. So um, with that being said, uh, for the sake of Seychelles, let's move on to the second portion of this. We now have the definitive score, caught stealing. Congratulations, you get a three out of five. It's now time to step onto the golden path. Alright. Maud Deeb has called us on to uh to identify the deeper meanings of this film.

SPEAKER_03

Hi, Austin Butler.

SPEAKER_00

Which means it's time for our final toast, final shot, final hit of the night. Here is to a respectable three out of five.

SPEAKER_03

Cheers. Cheers!

SPEAKER_01

A well-earned three out of five.

SPEAKER_00

Fuck. Yeah, this Uncle Nearest is it's smooth. It's smooth. I enjoy it, and it's got the it's got the spice that I require.

SPEAKER_02

Making a change. Yeah, so that's a pause.

SPEAKER_00

Well, there was actually a a booze I was really trying to find uh to do tonight. I want to do a uh ghost tequila.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

It's a uh a spiced tequila, which I got to try a shot of while I was in St. Louis. I didn't think I would enjoy it as much as I did, but I loved the hell out of it. Nice. But it it's it's just tequila, but then it has like habanero on the end of it. And it made for a damn fine margarita, I'll tell you that much.

SPEAKER_03

Sounds dope.

SPEAKER_00

As the resident alcoholic, I uh I enjoyed it thoroughly. Well, if I see it anywhere, I'll try it. Yeah, it it definitely changes the way you take tequila. Uh I liked it a lot. But because you know how like at the end of tequila, you kind of get that uh there's always sort of that gagginess. The spice takes that away. So I definitely enjoyed it. Definitely enjoyed it. So it's time now, the second portion, it's time to jump onto the golden path, it's time to get into the higher meanings of this film. James, did you want to uh kick that off? Uh, because I know you were you wanted to delve into how film has transformed, evolved. I don't know. Arson Butlered, if you will.

SPEAKER_03

I don't remember anything about what I was thinking about that. I'm super high now. I have to say that I I feel like, you know, and this was something that I thought of during us talking, is it's interesting how and I feel like this in in a general trend this year it's been a lot of regurgitated shit. And um obviously if you if you haven't seen some movies like this, but this is basic, you know, just a hyper chaotic um action movie, which has been done before. Um and I feel like in general there was make it like crank. Crank is like the height of this genre. Yeah, do with me. And that's you have to, and I and we always say it ha you have to kind of um lean into it and have that vision as a whole. Um and uh overall this this year I've seen so many movies that are sequels, Karate Kid, uh, you know, how to trade near Dragon Live Action, uh all the all sorts of different movies, and you guys saying that this remind is just the same thing as every guy Richie movie you said was really interesting. Because I felt in general this year, I'm like, fuck. Another I don't know, not more of that. Please just give me something different. Like and there's some that is. There are movies that are you know, Sinners was really unique. Like, I feel like there have been some movies that have been innovative, but um a lot of regurgitated bullshit throughout the year that you know this might be uh a movie that is trying to do it more subtly, but still is doing it, just regurgitating the same thing, I guess.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I would argue that even Sinners, um, once you got to the end, turned into uh Dust Till Dawn.

SPEAKER_03

Sure. Every movie eventually turns into from Dust Till Dawn.

SPEAKER_00

It's always three steps from a Tarantino. Because we've talked about Kill Bill, Dust Till Dawn. Uh all you're doing is copying Tarantino.

SPEAKER_03

Um every single filmmaker, past and present.

SPEAKER_00

Even Guy Ritchie, all he did was copy fucking Pulp Fiction.

SPEAKER_03

Please don't listen to this, Quentin Tarantino. We don't actually he's gonna get super hard and jerk off on some feet.

SPEAKER_00

They just didn't have the foresight to put Selma Hayek's toes in their mouth as the director, slash actor, slash writer. Uh it's the vision. That's that's all it was. That's all it was. And maniac.

SPEAKER_03

All right, how did we get on this? We gotta go so well.

SPEAKER_00

Selmahayek's toes, part two of this thing. Let's talk about them. They're great. No.

SPEAKER_03

That's all I got. They're great. They're fantastic. I'd suck one of them. Fantastic. Just suck on. If it was my if I was the actor and it was my role, I'd do it. But as a professional, as a professional.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Okay. Well, now that that's out of the way, that we'd all suck on Salma Hayek's toes. What are the higher thoughts of this film?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. It didn't provoke many. It felt really it felt just really nihilistic, and it felt really I don't know, one person's like one one guy's like journey from traumatic thing that was his fault to taking account responsibility, like, overlooked like a whole bunch of things that he should be taking responsibility for. Like that, that was the whole conceit. And then he keeps doing more and more heinous shit. And then it's like, all right, he finally took accountability for that thing from the beginning. He's great now.

SPEAKER_00

Well, but it was weird because it's it was like he was trying to say, like, dude, don't worry about the director to me was trying to say, Don't worry about taking accountability from the past. You'll take accountability as character growth when a bunch of shit out of your control happens.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

Golden Path: What’s The Deeper Meaning?

SPEAKER_00

And it's like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03

The universe will come together to teach you a lesson. You don't worry about it, just get super drummed and reward you for learning that lesson greatly. Yeah. Cool movie.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. I'll say when he uh that was the one scene that like kind of actually got to me was when he has the missing kidney now. He's in the bar and he decides to get fucking wasted again. In the theater, I was like, no, no, don't do it. Don't don't fucking do it, dude. Um that did like actually hit me. It did hit me. Um I think that's why this the movie itself deserved a three because I did have that reaction. Um, you know, as high and dry as alcoholic, yeah, when I lose a kidney, you know, that's where I see myself obviously just letting Zoe Kravitz down. Yeah. As I had almost certainly.

SPEAKER_03

Her father is Lenny Kravitz. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I've let him down as I I I don't know. He's got abs well into his late 50s.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's got gigantic scarves, and you don't have any.

SPEAKER_00

I don't have any scarves. I don't have a single scarf.

SPEAKER_03

And that's the deeper meaning of this film is that you should get more scarves to be more like Lenny Kravitz.

SPEAKER_00

There you go. There's the golden path, folks.

SPEAKER_03

If this movie wants to be nihilistic, what what can we do about it? We have to be absurdist in the light of nihilism. It it it didn't uh to me, it didn't say anything. Did it say anything to you guys? Absolutely nothing, genuinely.

SPEAKER_00

No, and and and I think that's why it didn't get higher than the three, because all the parts were there. Like like you threw all the ingredients in the pot, you just forgot to fucking season it.

SPEAKER_03

And so where was his rage? You know, he didn't have any like rage again. Like you said, he was just like like a calm, cool colle, almost like a spy who's just been like murdering people and like going on mission. Like he he was so like calm the whole time. Just chill, a chill guy, just a chill guy. He's like, I'm just a chill guy. I just watch baseball. He was almost incapable of thinking too much. I don't know. It seems really weird. Like he almost like throughout the movie, I was like, is he just like is he like really dumb? Is he just like a really, really dumb guy who like can't comprehend the situation he's in?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like he's like maybe he's in shock?

SPEAKER_00

Well, but at the same time, I mean your average person like we're human beings, we're not the smartest thing. You know, so like maybe we're just I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I like what would we just pushing it down still? Like I I don't know, I'd like scream and cry over my dead wife's body. Well, first, that very first thing, like violently cry.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I I think that that that this is the perfect segue to get into the third portion of this. In this in this fucking thing, what the hell would we do? So, welcome to the third part of this episode. We're now going to insert ourselves, drugs, and alcohol into the film Cod Stealing. How does it change? Who wants to kick this one off? How does it change? I have something if no one else does. Please do it, please. Oh, please.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. So obviously, I'm gonna be pretty stoned during my part in this movie.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm what I am is the character I am the friend that Austin Butler needs, but I'm the friend that needs to die.

SPEAKER_00

But not the one he deserves.

SPEAKER_03

I'm the one that needs to die instead of Zoe Kravitz to allow this film to be something greater than just another vengeful man going on a rampage and learning a lesson and then being rewarded for it. Um so I basically would be that friend, and there would be a I would be like I would do something stupid because like I I would fuck with the the I would be the guy that answers like the door, like he wasn't there. He actually asked me to go to the house to like uh check on this cat, so I go, I end up running into the Russian guys.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_03

I get the shit kicked out of me and they kill me, and that's where he Oh no! Oh no! No, unfortunately I died. And because I die, he actually feels deeper emotion because our love was greater than his and Zoe Kravitz. Um so he uh he actually feels true rage, and um you you get some real deep moments out of him, and he actually ends up going up for an Oscar nomination, but does lose him.

unknown

Damn.

SPEAKER_03

Um so yeah, it would really revolutionize the film, me being at it as Austin Butler's best friend. Who do you who do you think he loses to? Do you think it's Steve Steve Buscemi in the Arnold Schwarzenegger story?

SPEAKER_04

It's wins the Oscar.

SPEAKER_00

No, he actually loses Bushemi in total recall, too.

SPEAKER_03

He actually loses to Matt Matt Smith, who just hit he open because of Austin Butler's level, he just opens up at an entire new level with this character.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he plays off of it.

SPEAKER_03

They both go up for nominations, and Matt Smith wins the Oscar for Best Actor of the Year.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, and uh fucking you know Austin Butler's executed at the end of it because two actors going up in the same film, one has to die, obviously.

SPEAKER_02

Gladiator Death.

SPEAKER_03

He puts the ball cap back on and returns as a duelist from Dune 2.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think I think Matt Smith would beat Austin Butler in a fight, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03

He looks stalkier, right? That's interesting. Austin Butler has Austin Butler has reach. I think that's the more important thing.

SPEAKER_04

I think Austin Butler actually does win that fight, if I'm honest.

Regurgitated Cinema And Genre Fatigue

SPEAKER_00

But Austin Butler, because I like he obviously he was fucking shredded in this film. Sure. So I know firsthand when you're shredded like that, your strength has gone out the window. You are so fucking tired and depleted. Matt Smith rolls in and just fucks him up. All he had to do was put on a Mohawk.

SPEAKER_03

He fought the Quitsack Hatterak. And sure, he lost. He lost.

SPEAKER_02

But he did put up a good fight. So I don't know. He did. I don't know. Do you think Matt's a good one?

SPEAKER_00

I think Matt Smith would Paul Atreides him. I think he would be a Mahdi.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Matt Smith is the Algae.

SPEAKER_00

Easily. Easily. I I think we figured that out years ago in Doctor Who.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, what a fucking revolution. We changed Dune 2. With our change in this film, we've actually changed Dune 2 as well.

SPEAKER_03

My change. I like your change. Thank you. Thank you. And and I like that we're going to have this dramatic scene. But what's going to happen is that I'm going to replace Darrenov Aronofsky with the Lonely Island guys. And it's going to be it's going to be an amazing bit of acting from Austin Butler, but it's going to jump cut immediately to something mundane that's that totally changes the tone. It's going to be like a hot rod. This is going to be like hot rod, but but but grittier.

SPEAKER_00

A gritty hot rod. I think that's what the people have always wanted.

SPEAKER_03

That's what this movie could have been. It could have been like Pineapple Express if they'd gone a little harder. Like it, they didn't, it didn't feel like it was gritty enough or silly enough. If they'd gone harder in the silly direction, I think it would be pretty fucking awesome. It would have been like a Pineapple Express. I don't disagree. I like that a lot. Especially because, like, like you said, I feel like the detective was so similar. So similar to so similar. But not as extreme, and it didn't land as well. It's like, oh, you were trying, but not quite. They were doing the same accent. I love that. What it could have been, but I love that. I love that. I think that's the Lonely Island guys, they take it over. Yeah, it's like hot.

SPEAKER_00

You just hand it over to the Lonely Island crew.

SPEAKER_03

Take the scene from Hot Rod where Andy Sandberg breaks the face of his batanios. I'm going to my quiet place. Have Austin Butler do that shit, and it's a great like this movie, like takes it to a whole nother level.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and for me, inserting me into this film. I'm just gonna call the police. I'm going and I'm and and I'm lazy. I'm not gonna find the corrupt cops card. I'm not gonna call her. So she's not gonna be able to vet it. I'm just gonna call 911. It's gonna get to the general desk, and the police will be involved from the top. Zoe Kravitz survives to you know just nepotism it up in another fucking film. And all is well watch your mouth. I I like her, I I enjoyed her a lot as Catwoman, for example, and I liked her as Firefly, and I I've enjoyed her in a lot of things. Just I you are correct.

SPEAKER_04

There's the the nepotism in Hollywood is present.

SPEAKER_00

It's becoming worse and worse and worse, and every time we step away from it, something amazing is created. Um, so how can it be nepotism?

Nihilism, Accountability, And Character Arcs

SPEAKER_03

Eleni Kravitz isn't even an actor. Yeah. I don't see it. Influenced, but are you saying that just because they're incredibly rich people living in the same communities that are gated out from any kind of influence of the poor, that they've built some kind of monolithic like social socioeconomic culture that fuels cooperation between them so that only they excel and maintain wealth for generations.

SPEAKER_00

That's actually exactly what I'm saying. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So uh, yeah, no, so like look, I I appreciate when there's like a fucking job well done, like, good for you, like fucking Zoe, good good for you, Johnny Depp's kid, you know, like good for all of you. But uh go fuck yourselves. Oh go fuck yourselves.

SPEAKER_03

Be like, be like be like an office worker for a generation, and then you're and then and see how your kids see if your kids are good at acting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So like I'm not interested. I'm not interested. I like, yeah, good for you, Zoe. You're you're a good actress, but like, of course you are. What the fuck else did you have to do? You know, you got to literally pick and choose what the fuck you wanted to do. Of course you're gonna be decent at it. You better be decent at it.

SPEAKER_03

You better be decent. All you need to focus on was being awesome at one thing. That'd be fucking sweet.

SPEAKER_00

Well, actually, that's if all you have to do is focus on being a good actor, the fact that you don't have an Oscar, go fuck yourself. You're a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_03

You don't have to clean, you've never had to like clean or cook your own meals or fucking worry about bills or have to move. You've never had to move. You can just stay wherever you are forever, and people would come and maintain your survival because there's a pinch.

SPEAKER_00

If you're a Nepo baby and you don't get an Oscar on your first outing, execution immediately.

SPEAKER_03

Um, you can't we can't joke about that shit right now.

SPEAKER_00

Hope you get a woot. Uh but uh no, you you like no you what what should happen is if uh you don't get an Oscar on your first outing, you're automatically signed on with Olive Garden or you know, just you fucking you're nine to five. You're gonna be waiting tables at Dave and Buster's or you know, just one of those things.

SPEAKER_03

No, they have to work in a call center.

SPEAKER_00

There you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You guys are going way too hard. This is this is gonna make them this is gonna make the rich people murder us. You gotta give them at least like assistant manager or something, so they're only like they only have to sometimes cover for the labor.

SPEAKER_00

Fine. You get assistant manager at a bed bath and beyond or uh a rent a center.

SPEAKER_03

You still have people underneath you, you're not the bottom rung of society, you're one rung up.

SPEAKER_00

Enjoy it. You should have gotten that Oscar. You should have gotten that Oscar. Maybe you did maybe you just didn't want it enough because you've never wanted for anything.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Oh interesting. She didn't even want to live in this movie. She wanted to, she wanted to get shot in the head.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And she's like, Yeah, I'll take the role. Fuck it. I don't give a shit. Here's like whatever.

SPEAKER_03

After after that dude got his shit kicked in, I'd be like, We're never going back to your apartment.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Everybody.

SPEAKER_03

We're never going back to your apartment. No. But she but she was like, nah, I'll throw my life away.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I don't care.

SPEAKER_04

Like, maybe she just understood that he needed to develop as a man.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think that they're just they're so insulated. I mean, it's like, so I I was I was watching this, uh, like this this concept of like Taylor Swift where where someone goes like, yeah, I'm sure she's I'm sure she's a liberal, I'm sure she's left, but she's so insulated from any of her decisions, choices, and the consequences therein that it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter anymore. Um and I I think it's the same. Like when Zoe saw that she was gonna be, you know, refrigerator woman. She's just it's just who cares? It it makes it makes no fucking difference. I I I get to exercise my my acting chops that I've gotten to hone with zero difficulty in my life. Um you know, my my dad's out banging some 20-year-old on an island somewhere with his 50-year-old abs. Um it doesn't fucking matter.

SPEAKER_03

I wonder how old Lenny Kravitz is now. Keep talking.

SPEAKER_00

I have I got a thing to Google. He's he's definitely in his fifth decade. He is in his fifth decade. No doubt in your mind. No doubt. No doubt. He's in his fifth decade. He's 61 years old. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty great. They're pretty great. Pretty great abs. Pretty good abs.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, if you have nothing to worry about in this life except your abs, and they're not great, you should be punched in the stomach every day.

SPEAKER_03

Those are some excellent abs. He's 61. I thank you for telling me to Google Lenny Kravitz's abs. I had no pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_00

My algorithms forever changed.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, I forgot to put on incognito. No!

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you definitely messed up the old algorithm on that one.

SPEAKER_03

Who knows now? Yeah, it's over.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of abs. A lot of 60-year-old black men's apps.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's insane. He looks better at 60 than I ever did in my entire life or ever will.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but like when you when you have like uh a series of hit song in the 90s, you can just do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that is true. When you only have to worry about you don't even have to worry about what you eat, but someone will worry about that for you.

Rewriting The Film With Us Inside

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Someone will worry about that fucking for you. Could you imagine how good we'd all fucking look if we had a team of people saying, nope, don't eat that. Nope, nope, nope, do a squat right there. There you go. It it's just it's bullshit. It's all fucking bullshit, and which is why I don't care how good you acted in this film. You better have acted good in this film because you have had more advantages than anyone else ever could. And because you don't act the best in this film, it means you wasted those advantages. So go fuck yourself. Is uh is my thoughts on these Nepo fucking actors. So go fucking.

SPEAKER_04

I think they're all competent though. That's and that's what we always get is just competent acting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you a Nepo movie is gonna get a Nepo competency of three out of five stars. Cheers.

SPEAKER_04

Always see Amp. Always.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like we re-rated Nasferato pretty decent, but I feel that Rose Depp or whatever the hell her name is was very small part of it. And honestly, I I've watched Nosferatu again. She's the most off-putting part.

SPEAKER_03

They made her look really weird.

SPEAKER_00

Very bizarre. Very bizarre. I do agree with that. And I don't know why they did that either. And then they like greased her forehead like it was bizarre.

SPEAKER_04

Everyone likes a greasy forehead, especially Nosferatu.

SPEAKER_00

You could use that fucking thing to like signal planes in a storm.

SPEAKER_01

It was maybe they do. You you don't know what they use. Just put her out on a runway.

SPEAKER_03

Like, god damn.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's because Willem Dafoe was in a lighthouse, and lighthouses were ending at that time, and so we had to come up with a replacement.

SPEAKER_03

So we now have Rose Depp's head. Just grease Lily Rose Depp's head never walking out.

SPEAKER_00

No ships are crashing. No ships are crashing. That is blinding.

SPEAKER_03

You can see that ship from the International Space Station.

SPEAKER_00

I'd feel bad if you were in a Nepo baby. Liz Rose Depp, whatever the fuck your name is.

SPEAKER_03

It's a really crazy outfit. That's like not how she looks normally. She it was just they made her look fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_00

They did. They did, and she was. She was out of her fucking mind. And I don't imagine she's well adjusted in real life either. So like almost assuredly, there's no way you can be. How can you be?

SPEAKER_03

There's no way.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, go ahead. Like it's it's the same thing with fucking Jaden Smith. How could you be a normal human being? You just can't.

SPEAKER_03

How could you ever know what is normal? Yeah, what is normal? They have no idea, they have no concept of what normal is. Normal is whatever their brains could come up with.

SPEAKER_00

They're essentially a Lovecraftian monster.

SPEAKER_04

It's like Those are just what minds uh with the freedom to actually imagine beyond beyond the next day of work can do.

SPEAKER_00

Must be nice. Yeah, we lose our fucking minds.

SPEAKER_03

We just go crazy. It's like putting a consciousness in a box and being like, okay, imagine whatever kind of existence you want. And it just goes wild for like for like 10,000 years. And it's like, it's that's essentially what Nepo babies do. Like that's what nepotism does. That's what growing up with ineared in wealth where you never have to think about anything, just have a team of people who tell you everything to do and say, or everything that you say is right.

SPEAKER_00

And then at the end of the day, you're so uncreative and unoriginal that you just do the same thing that your parents did. Yeah. So fuck Nepo babies. Well, uh I I think that's the perfect, the perfect close right there. Fuck Nepo babies. You're coming for us. Or high and dry podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Uh you don't know how to do it, so they're gonna hire someone to come for us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh, oh yeah. They're definitely Jaden Smith right now. He's on the phone, he's on the horn. Um hire my usual guy. Yeah, my usual guy to kill the high and dry podcast crew. So oh, it was fucking Jaden Smith that was listening to us from that one fucking place. Seychelles. Seychelles, yeah, it's Jaden Smith. He's on vacation in Seychelles, and he's listening to this right now, and he's like, those pieces of shit. I'm an amazing actor. My father's movies prove this, and I'm gonna have them killed. So, um, everyone, I'm your host, Ryan Barron North. This is our last episode of High and Dry Podcast. Jaden Smith and Lily Rose Depp are about to have us murdered.

SPEAKER_03

Listen, we fought off his assassins before we can do it again.

Lonely Island Cut And 911 Fix

SPEAKER_00

We could do it again. If we if we took out Jeff Bezos' assassins, we could do this. So bring it on, Jaden Smith. Bring it on, Depp, whatever your first one. Lily Rose.

SPEAKER_03

Lily Rose, man.

SPEAKER_00

Wayleen? That's Wayleen, Rose, Depp. Wayleen, if if that's what you want to do, bring it on. I I'm ready to take on Wayleen Rose Depp, and I'll take on everyone else who comes. I'll fight any of these children. So taking on all comers. This is High Enjoy Podcast. I'm Ryan Baron North with me as always. James Croslin, Luke. We will kill any Neppo baby that comes at us.

SPEAKER_03

No, we will not. This is not the climate.

SPEAKER_00

Only when they come at us first, then it is clear self-defense. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Then that's totally reasonable to say.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Only when they come at us first, as Jaden Smith has done and failed, and I asked him to prove otherwise. Yeah, prove it wasn't you. Prove it wasn't you. Prove it. I fucking dare you. Alright. Bye.