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Thank you."},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":829.25,"endTime":830.81,"body":"Thank you"},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":829.25,"endTime":830.81,"body":"for listening to the Marvell"},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":830.84,"endTime":833.96,"body":"Essential Technology Podcast. As"},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":830.84,"endTime":833.96,"body":"always, please feel free to"},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":833.96,"endTime":836.78,"body":"visit our website to learn more,"},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":833.96,"endTime":836.78,"body":"and we'll see you on the next"},{"speaker":"Christopher Banuelos","startTime":836.78,"endTime":837.35,"body":"episode."}]}