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Ep. 82 Naresh Vissa Interview: Dissecting China's Influence on US Culture, Business, and Politics

November 09, 2023 Patty-Flea, Matty, Aubz Season 4 Episode 82
The Take It Deep Show
Ep. 82 Naresh Vissa Interview: Dissecting China's Influence on US Culture, Business, and Politics
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Could the spread of 'cancel culture' in the US stem from an external influence, more specifically, China? In the latest episode of our podcast, we pose this thought-provoking question and much more to our esteemed guest Naresh Vissa, CEO, real estate investor, and best-selling author of Trumpbook and Podcastnomics. With incisive analysis and thought-provoking insights, Naresh dissects China's insidious influence on various aspects of US society. From the education system to the entertainment industry and even our social media, no stone is left unturned in this riveting discussion.

The conversation doesn't end there. As we dissect the events surrounding the NBA General Manager's tweet and the backlash faced by Bud Light for embracing wokeness, we navigate the intersection of politics, business, and society. The role and responsibility of influencers and athletes in spotlighting social issues are placed under the microscope, as well as China's increasing global power and its alarming role in the fentanyl epidemic impacting low-income and African-American communities.

We round off this intense yet intriguing episode with a look at the contentious US political landscape. Election strategies, potential candidates, and the influence of independent voters all make for a compelling discussion. We also share tips for up-and-coming podcasters and lighten the mood with some casual banter about college basketball. Don't miss out on this enlightening episode filled with hard truths, critical analyses, and impassioned debates!

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Speaker 1:

I'm a wild dude. Been through some live shit with a bell chew, sound cruel. I've been a foul dude all my life real cats.

Speaker 2:

Respect me when I be on the mic. Wake up to that morning light shining bright, dead in my face. Gotta wake the fuck up. Go get on my chase. I'm in the place in the role. I can make a left turn to the right one. It's fucked up, ladies, I don't know what the fuck wants. The right one. You wanna learn about real life from my mic home?

Speaker 3:

Well, ladies and gentlemen, our guest is in the green room right now. Let's welcome Nice. Video is back. Yes, let's welcome Nuresh Vissa to the Take it Deep show. Nuresh, how are we doing? What's up guys? Good to see you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you thank you for joining us. We were just having technical difficulties and I almost lost my mind because my computer was about to shut down, but we are happy to get you on to the Take it Deep show. What was I? I literally just had a brain fart because that screwed me all up. Hold on a sec.

Speaker 4:

It happens. Look technical difficulty. That's what I probably thought. I thought there were technical issues, it happens. But we're all here right now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it seems to happen to us pretty often anytime I touch anything with technology purposes. But we just want to welcome to the show After, like Kevin, and I will join by me Patty Flea. Kevin, our other co-host, maddie's on the way Coming from Jersey, from a christening, so, but we were doing a lot of research on you. I gotta tell you you are a very, very interesting human being.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you very much. At least there's one person out there who thinks that.

Speaker 1:

I got a question how old are you?

Speaker 4:

I'm turning 35 in two months.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's crazy. You've done a lot of stuff. 35 years old, that's nice. Well done.

Speaker 4:

There's still a lot left to do and a lot left to accomplish. And when you see other people like did they promise for me? Who's running for president, who's three years older than me, three and a half years older than me, and it's like whoa, I've done nothing in life.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's a different, different.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I wouldn't say you've done nothing in life, nuresh. You've done more stuff in your 35 years than most human beings would ever accomplish in their lifetime. I just want to talk about some of your credentials. You're the CEO of Nuresh Media and Marketing. Full service online Chris I apologize, my eyes are terrible Full service online digital media and marketing agency. You worked with leading publishers, media firms and institutions such as CNN Radio, jpmorgan, chase, everbank, the Institute for Energy Research, the Houston Rockets, houston Astros, the American Junior Golf Association, agora Publishing and Stansbury Research. Is there anything else we can add to that?

Speaker 4:

I'm a real estate investor. I've got a selling author written five books, currently working on a few more books and also a Stay at Home Dab.

Speaker 3:

Wow, Stay at Home Dab and you get all this done as a Stay at Home Dab.

Speaker 4:

So a lot of this was done before I became a Stay at Home Dab and I'm able to still run my two primary businesses and do a little bit of writing and all that. One kid is in daycare so he's on at home. The other kid I stay at home with and I train them so that I can get work done. They know daddy's got to work.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy. I mean God bless you for doing that. Talking about some of your books, I know one of your books got a lot of attention, which was the Trump book, and reading up on everything, now some of the book promoters actually banned your book.

Speaker 4:

Yes, they did. This was in 2017 or so when the book came out. It was October, november 2017 and, like you said, there were some book promoters who I had worked with for many, many years Leading up to that, for clients for some of my previous books and they said hey, we can't promote this, we can't work with this book, sorry.

Speaker 3:

What was their reasoning behind that?

Speaker 4:

The reasoning was that they did not, they didn't read it or anything. They read the back cover, they read the summary, they read the title and they said look, we just can't give any attention to Trump. We can't because it pisses off our audience, it pisses off our people. It was nothing personally against me or the book. It was more so. Our own people are going to get not everyone, but a very large percentage are going to get pissed off and therefore we cannot promote this. Even though I was wanting to pay, like this is like paid promotion. It's like hey, I'll write you a check to promote the book, to advertise the book. They still wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3:

So they wouldn't even accept any type of money for you to promote it. Just because of the name. That would what it was dealing with. The other topic it was dealing with.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, not even the topic. It was just it was somewhat complimentary of Donald Trump, and so they were like alright, we can't do it.

Speaker 1:

We can't promote this book. That was 17,. Huh, oh yeah that was 2017.

Speaker 4:

That's like even before you even thought of cancel culture you know, yeah, cancel culture was not even coming back, it was like at a Meeba back, then you know, cancel culture.

Speaker 1:

It sounds like he was.

Speaker 3:

It sounds like Nourish was the first victim of the cancel culture because of the book.

Speaker 4:

That's crazy. Well, that was the first time I got canceled. I got canceled again because, you can say, because of the name Trump in 2020, just before the election, I was supposed to host a webinar with who was it with? It was. I was supposed to do a webinar with this big non-profit and got canceled because it was all the same thing. It was all about BLM and Tifa Trump, why Trump should be re-elected and ended up getting canceled. The thing is, they promoted it. The organization sent out flyers, sent out emails and then another it was actually a super PAC and another candidate who this super PAC was supporting said I can't, you know like you need to cancel this guy, because I can't have this guy nixing in all this Trump stuff with your support of me. So they canceled me and they never rescheduled me again.

Speaker 3:

Wow, Now that's what I wanted to get into with. I think probably one of the one in questions I really wanted to ask you was how has China contributed to destroying the US economy, education system and spreading COVID and wokeness?

Speaker 4:

Excellent question and I hope you're ready to have a deep discussion about this, because Well, you are on the Take it Deep show, and a rush.

Speaker 3:

We like it deep here.

Speaker 4:

Yes, good, good, because this is more complicated and convoluted than anyone would expect it. So, China, going back to the 1980s, the United States, if you remember, really, post World War II, until the USSR fell in the 90s, the United States was in a cold war with Russia. And this was not a war with nuclear warheads or people on the ground killing each other with guns and all. It was a different type of war because these were the two major superpowers of the world and there was a KGB official who left the KGB, the Russian KGB, and did an interview on US media and he basically shared the secret sauce and said the way you defeat the United States, the way you get that global empire to crumble, is not with military or bombs or nothing that you would think of. It's actually by infiltrating their education system. Because once you infiltrate the education system, you can essentially brainwash the kids, kids like my kids age. You can brainwash them at a young age so that when they get older and become adults which now those people who did get brainwashed by the Russians when they get older, their priorities are going to be way off because they've been brainwashed to veer away from financial independence, economic independence, from the family unit, from God, from meritocracy. These were all the fundamental principles that made America great. If you read the Declaration of Independence through the US Constitution, there are constant references to these terms. Capitalism, and so this Russian official said you infiltrate the education system. You essentially pay government, pay off government officials to get teachers to teach certain things, to get parents to believe certain things. These kids are going to grow up. They're going to lose these values that made America great. Russia is no longer a global superpower.

Speaker 4:

When the USSR fell in the 90s, the head of China, the prime minister of China, came out and said we are now entering a cold war with the United States. We are going to be taking Russia spot because our economy, we have a communist society, we have a bunch. Our competitive advantage is cheap labor, a bunch of cheap labor, and we have control. So we will make the world dependent on us. We'll make the United States dependent on us, from the goods and services that Americans buy the shoes that they wear, the hats that they wear, the clothing to the pharmaceuticals that doctors prescribe, to the medical utensils that are being, to the vaccines that are being vaccinated Pfizer, for example, huge, huge manufacturing unit in China to the food that they eat. We are going to make them dependent on us so that it essentially becomes a co-dependency relationship. Now, this guy, the prime minister of his name, still be my mind. He didn't say all this. All he said was we are entering into a cold war with the United States.

Speaker 4:

And so what China did, the first step, was to get the United States dependent on it in all these different areas, and once you have someone dependent on you, you own them. So the Chinese also invested a lot of their money into US debt, into US treasuries. So the largest debt holder of the US dollar or of US treasuries is China. The biggest investor in the United States outside of the United States is China. So this was their strategy, because once they control all of these, the sources of all of these processes, then they can make decisions on behalf, decisions that Americans should be making, decisions that private companies should be making.

Speaker 4:

China can make those decisions and we see the result of that, of terrible decisions being made. For example, the decision to stop fracking, to stop burning coal, to they call it ESG, environmental, social governance, to implement ESG policies From ice cream shops to, of course, oil and gas companies. This, you can say is a direct result of China, because what China has done is they've taken board seat. Because they're a huge investor, they'll invest a lot of money, not just buy off US politicians, but they'll also become huge investors in large asset managers Like.

Speaker 3:

BlackRock.

Speaker 4:

State Street and Vanguard, and.

Speaker 3:

Deli. Those are the top three firms, correct, but don't they all own each other? Or BlackRock owns the other two, isn't that correct?

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, they're three different companies. Blackrock, state Street and Vanguard are three separate companies. So what China will do is invest a ton of money with these asset managers, and these asset managers are generally. If you were to look up, let's say, disney stock or Nike stock, if you were to look up who their largest shareholders are, you'll see that they are consistently they meaning BlackRock, state Street or Vanguard are consistently in the top two largest shareholders, so they can move markets. These asset managers can move markets. They have board seats on these companies, and so what China can do is indirectly.

Speaker 4:

So none of this is direct, none of this is in your face. Hey, we're China and we're trying to destroy the United. Everything from COVID, which we can get to, or what I call, what it should be called, the pandemic or the scam-demic, or the Wuhan virus. I knew I'd like to scam you because COVID, again, is a complete Chinese. The name is a Chinese concoction. So, anyway, they can go to these companies, because they have board seats, and push for these initiatives like D, e, I, esg, blm three letter acronyms that your average person has never heard of. It sounds great because three letters and the exactly in the case of the ESG. They'll make a, they'll make a push for, let's say, esg.

Speaker 4:

And so what happens? The company let's say ExxonMobil or Chevron US based. They're not allowed to frack, they're not allowed to burn coal, they're not allowed to drill on Shore anymore the US was energy independent, oil prices were very low. They're not allowed to do that anymore because of these board members who are owned by the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, or really BlackRock, who's owned by the Chinese Communist Party, and this is just an example, by the way, of what's happened in the past, and so they stopped their operation. Of course, the politicians you get a new administration coming in. They're bought, paid off, bought and paid by the, the CCP. There's proof and evidence that the Biden family has taken money not just from you can't Ukraine, but from the Chinese Communist Party. So Quit.

Speaker 3:

we know that's a quick question on that. Now, if there's, since they have proof of that, why hasn't there been any type of you know action?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, is it just part of it is. Part of it is because this is just politics. You go through most career politicians, administrations and you will find this level of corruption and they mask it. That's another thing. You would have to go through investigations and actual litigation For the truth to come out and they mask it. Because they mask it by saying, oh, hunter Biden look, he had, he owned this business and it was just a consulting column. He was, you know, just doing some tech work for some Chinese company and, and they'll mask it, they'll say anybody can do tech work for, you know, alibaba or some Chinese company. So they'll mask it that way.

Speaker 4:

But when you dig deeper and you find out about Hunter Biden and this guy wasn't working a lick and he was just getting millions of dollars, basically it was backdoor payments Then you can make a connection like are they basically? Is this some kind of BS consulting gig because they want something back in return? But in the case of Ukraine, it's all about politics. The Republicans don't Don't have a majority in the Senate. They obviously don't.

Speaker 1:

I mean it kind of borderlines on treason, not politics, no, like it's, it sounds just like yeah, like you know, like it's just politics. At this point they should. I personally, I think there should be some sort of swift action taken.

Speaker 4:

You know, round them all up because the house the house is is Pretty much moderate. It took them, like what, a month just to find the house speaker and then you don't have the Senate. So it's it's, at the end of the day, it's politics. But but going back to China, going to ESG, so the United States hurts its own economy, hurts its own job numbers by not doing something like drilling, fracking, burning coal, and? And instead, who is doing the drilling and fracking and burning coal and who is? Who has become one of the Largest, most successful oil and gas companies in the world? Petro China. Look up Petro China, see how large they are. Look at how much China is drilling, fracking, burning. Cool, because just China give a crap about the environment.

Speaker 3:

No, everybody walks around with masks over there. They don't, they don't care, and and this is all about global equity.

Speaker 4:

It's about destroying the.

Speaker 4:

United States, destroying the US economy and making other countries and their economies Stronger to catch up with the United States. This is just an example of how globalism is done. And here in the United States we have all these tree huggers and people who care so much about the environment. That's fine, you can care about the world, but it's this fake science really that's coming out, saying that carbon is terrible. Carbon is the worst thing for the, which, again, any scientist will tell you that carbon is actually a foundation of life. You can't have carbon. Its periodic table, element 6. You can't have green. We are the green.

Speaker 4:

The United States has never been greener because of how much carbon there is in the atmosphere. Can there be bad carbon in the atmosphere? Can there be bad carbon? Yes, absolutely like methane. But there are other ways to curb methane and it's not stopping coal or oil. It's actually how about the meat industry, the unhealthy, terrible meat in, but nobody talks about that ever. Instead, they want to hurt the environment. They want to hurt the economy.

Speaker 4:

They meaning China, and if China owns our education system or has a huge influence, we can talk how they, how they infiltrate education, how they infiltrate social media, how they infiltrate the pharmaceutical. I mean, I already touched on the pharmaceutical space, because If they're manufacturing the pills and the vaccines, well, why on earth would we want? Why would? Why on earth would we trust some, a doctor, a us Doctor, who's prescribing something that's made in China? Does that make any sense at all? Why would that doctor be doing? The doctor probably doesn't even know it.

Speaker 4:

No, so this is how China has infiltrated Our everyday way of life. And the next time you see something super woke on your tick talk, which is also Chinese owned, or Instagram, or Facebook, which, again, these are all companies that want to have huge Presence in China. Why do they want to have a huge presence in China? Because China's got money and China's got people. So why does Disney want to have a good relationship with China? Because Disney comes out with a movie. They release it in China. That's a ton of money for Disney and Disney will do anything to release that movie. So if China says, hey, you can release this version in the United States, but in China, we want you to take out this scene and that scene.

Speaker 3:

Isn't that fair? Wasn't there a movie that John Cena did that he had apologized? He had apologized to China about something? Because there was something within the film, he said something about it, john Cena. Yeah, it was some silly John Cena movie, but it's. I'm not into it. But I'm just saying I remember seeing that and he actually had a right. He did like a public apology to China for it. Yeah, he, he said something about Taiwan.

Speaker 4:

It was really. I mean it was. There was nothing politically incorrect about it at all. He said Something that was complementary. Remember, china and Taiwan are enemies. So in fact, china, it's only a matter of time until they overtake Taiwan. He said something that was complementary about.

Speaker 3:

Taiwan. I don't remember exactly what it was like two years ago.

Speaker 4:

He said something that was complimentary. Oh that they exist. He said, he said that Taiwan was a country, and that pissed off China.

Speaker 4:

Oh my god, and and, and, and and again. Hollywood is owned. I just told you, gave you the example of Disney. They are owned by China, one of their biggest investors, one of their biggest markets, just like the national basketball association, the NBA, they showed in 2019. That was a great example of how they are completely Owned by China.

Speaker 4:

What happened was a general manager same thing about Taiwan that was Hong Kong. A general manager retweeted a meme. He didn't even say anything. He just hit the retweet button on a meme that said free Hong Kong. We see free Palestine all over the internet today and all he, all he said was free Hong, not he. All he retweeted was free Hong Kong.

Speaker 4:

That pissed off the CCP. The CCP Cancelled its TV partnership with the NBA and said we're not gonna bring it back on until the GM apologizes and you guys take action, the NBA. And so, anyway, the NBA ended up losing north of two billion dollars because of that simple retweet and, rather than talking about it and Explaining the issue, the NBA put out a memo To it's, put out a memo to the general managers, coaches, players, etc. And said we don't talk about this issue anymore. We don't talk about China. We don't talk about this tweet. Just if the media asks you about it, just don't talk about it. And so LeBron James, the media, because LeBron James, I remember, I remember this with LeBron he smells self sneakers. He's got this big Indorse a ton of endorsement deals with Chinese owned companies, making tens of millions of dollars every year.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, with 12 year old kids making his sneakers. I mean Not even 12, 6, 7 year old literal, literal slaves.

Speaker 4:

If you want to talk about slavery, people talk about Slavery from 200 years ago, 300, you? How about slavery today? Because it still exists in China, in parts of Africa. It still exists. And LeBron James, the media, asked him hey, what do you think about this tweet, what are your thoughts on it? And Rather than talk about the issue and and he didn't just say a no comment he went after that general manager and said that general manager Doesn't know what he's talking about. He's not educated on the topic by the way, that general manager has a mba from mit and LeBron didn't go to college, so he came straight from high school.

Speaker 4:

Well, that's fine for him going straight from high school, but I can tell you that his Uh aptitude is not at a college level, it's not even at a high school. I don't think he would have passed a high school exit at Sam Just based on just just proficiency. Um, so, anyway, he, he, he attacked that general manager and then he said I don't want to talk about it. If you ask him questions I'm not going to answer it. This is done. I'm done with this topic. I'm only here to talk basketball. And, of course, a few months later, all he wanted to talk about was how terrible police officers are and how they go, how they Scope out black people and kill them randomly, and how we donated a ton of money to black lives matter and why.

Speaker 3:

That bowed well for him too, for the, for the man he was donating to the mansions.

Speaker 4:

So, um, going back though the nba, perfect example of oh shoot, we can't say anything, which I completely get. Look, you have a business to run, $2 billion. That's safe, I get it, but that's why just don't even talk about all it. Like there should be a standard, a standard to follow in sports. Like, hey, politics is cnn box, not espm.

Speaker 4:

Exactly exactly don't, because all it's going to do is cause problems. That's all it's going to do in. The nba paid more than $2 billion for that problem and, yeah, that general manager Does he have free speech? Yes, but you also have to live with the consequences of that free speech and you're a gm of an nba team. Focus on your team. You don't need to get involved in all this other stuff, and it goes both ways. In 2016, when you had so many coaches in the nba Coming out against Donald trump saying all sorts of Stuff about him, that was completely baseless. It's dude. You got a team to coach. You're not. If you want to be a cnn commentator, put your job, go on cnn and go share those opinions over there, but it's just business suicide To be doing that type of stuff new now See, like the way you just said, like the whole free speech understood if there's policy for you know Businesses where you work and whatnot.

Speaker 3:

But has it gotten to a point now nowadays to where you really do have to be concerned in what you say Just because there's so many people like feelings are going to be hurt, you know they're, regardless of what you say, if it's not racial, if it's not what you're you're, you're always going to be labeled One way or another just because of you speaking your mind.

Speaker 4:

Look, speaking your mind, there's a difference. If you go in for a heart surgery, you're not going in because you want to hear your heart surgeon tell you about whether he's for Israel or for Palestine or something else. You're going in there because you want that heart fixed. My business is no different. Most businesses, you go to a restaurant to eat some food. You just want to eat a meal, hang out, have a good time, come home. So I just think it's a bad idea to mix politics with business, unless the business is politics, which the restaurant is not. A heart surgery is not. Just ask Bud Light. So it just has Bud Light, just has.

Speaker 1:

Victoria's Secret.

Speaker 3:

Just ask.

Speaker 1:

Dylan.

Speaker 4:

Mulvaney, there you go, you just don't do it. You don't do it unless it's your brand. In the case of Victoria's Secret, the brand is sexy women's clothing. That's the brand. So the moment you start coming out with marketing materials and promotions with large, heavy women, heavy set women or transgender, you've veered from that brand. Now there is certainly a market for large, heavy women, there's certainly a market for transgender clothing, but Victoria's Secret was never that. Victoria's Secret crushed what it did best, which was sexy women's clothing. So why would you want to change that? Bud Light already had a brand as this masculine, affordable beer. You sit back on a Sunday, you watch your football game, you drink a Bud Light, and so why would you want to change that brand when you're already doing so well?

Speaker 1:

I just couldn't believe that. Got out the door, someone said let's roll with this, and they did it. And they look at them now. Well, they're kind of sort of bouncing back.

Speaker 4:

But look, this is all again. This is wokeness. Anytime you see something you're just into yourself.

Speaker 1:

I couldn't believe it reached that level though, I got the whole woke thing like, yeah, whatever, but it got to that level of commerce and Bud Light. You're like Super Bowl, bud Bowl, bud Light, like what the fuck's going on in the world? It got to that point and it took getting the hit in the wallet for some people to be like, oh well, maybe we shouldn't do this shit all over the place.

Speaker 4:

But anytime you see something super woke, think to yourself did China have a role to play? Look up who the biggest investor is in the company, Because when the United States is, that's quite the rabbit hole that China responsible for the social unrest.

Speaker 1:

You want to call it that. Well, again, in a sense, right.

Speaker 3:

And the more and more I mean the more and more.

Speaker 1:

That's also another way to divide a country, too right, you take it over.

Speaker 4:

Absolutely. They control the social media. There are tons of Chinese bots, so Twitter got rid of a ton of them. Elon Musk has even said so, that the old Twitter had so many bots. And so if they control TikTok, if they control the social media through these bots and they're able to spread information, spread news, spread propaganda that just hits the world, then, yes, they will control what we consume. We will believe things that we shouldn't be believing, because China planted it there. This is not a conspiracy theory by any means. This has been happening, there is proof of this happening, and we just came out of a pandemic, or a pandemic that China created, from a lab in China. They created it, they controlled the narrative, the media narrative, they controlled the science. So, like I said, anytime you hear something really woke, think about okay, could China be responsible for us? Because China wants to see Americans fighting over beer and panties and pronouns.

Speaker 3:

You make it sound so. I mean it's literally. The more and more I think about it, the more it's.

Speaker 1:

It's like the aliens are laughing at America right now. The Li Li's fools.

Speaker 4:

That's what? Because what are they doing over there? They're training their people to learn computer science and science and virology and language and humanities and technology and medicine. That's what they're doing to their people here while or sorry over there in China. And then they'll even send their people from China here to the United States for college or for graduate school. They'll pay for their tuition, say all right, go to the United States, go see what's going on there and come back here and tell us all about it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we'll see you in 20 years.

Speaker 3:

Go right back. It's just. I find it more believable just because of everything that is going on. It's just because I'm always like what the hell is going on in this world. I think it's very believable. You know, I'm just Now Nourash. I was asking Kevin earlier because I saw this photo on Twitter about the increased military planes that have been in our airspace over the United States. The gentleman who quoted on the photo said he's never seen this many. And then I see a video upon, I guess, us sending troops and planes and squadrons I think it was like 12 squadrons of jets getting ready. Now is there something going on behind the scenes that we don't know the public just because they're probably keeping it suppressed from the news? Are we at like brink of possible going to war?

Speaker 4:

We are absolutely marching ourselves into World War III. There's no doubt about it. Now, will World War III happen? I don't know, but I do think there is still a very large military industrial complex. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, I think, with this whole issue. So, first off, ukraine in my opinion, completely useless war For people to say. It's completely hypocritical for people to say, oh, we need to protect the Ukrainians. If the reason why the United States has sent more than $300 billion in funding and some military aid, weapons to Ukraine, if the reason is because we want to protect the Ukrainian people, completely false, just a complete farce.

Speaker 3:

Because Aren't we just laundering? We're just laundering money through Ukraine.

Speaker 4:

But then it becomes okay. Well, how much is enough? How about there's a major war going on in Armenia right now? Armenia and Azerbaijan? Why aren't we helping Armenia? There's a major war going on in Burkina Faso, in Niger, africa, even in Mexico. Why aren't we sending money or sending troops or aid to those places? Why have we specifically picked out Ukraine, which, 10 years ago, ukraine was a laughing stock around the world, a complete laughing stock. Even two years ago it was a laughing stock. It's a country that's not a real democracy. The current Ukrainian president Zelensky. He was a comedian .11. He was a comedian. He's banned.

Speaker 3:

But that's what makes it even funnier. He was actually a stand-up comic. I mean, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, did Obama have a love affair with Ukraine? Did I remember that right? All right, I misremembered that.

Speaker 4:

You probably misremembered that I wouldn't call it a love affair. Well, it was their intertwined it was a love affair with Michael.

Speaker 1:

You think that all stems from him, like the Biden stuff and all that kind of stuff?

Speaker 4:

I think a bigger. So the bigger issue is what was found on the Hunter Biden laptop, which was Forget about all the pornographic stuff, the Ukrainian emails, the Ukrainian business dealings, the $5,000 Burisma payment to Hunter Biden. It almost makes it seem like, okay, ukraine, hey Biden, your dad's running for president. Here's $5 million, go buy some crack. Go buy some crack, and I'm sure we're going to get this money back somehow in the future and we'll leave it at that type of thing.

Speaker 1:

But do you think like past administrations, like Obama and maybe even all the way back to Bill, bill Clinton, you know, you think there's some sort of like conspiracy, democratic, not even democratic, but just sort of governmental cabal, you know, or something like that?

Speaker 4:

I do. I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think they call it unity. They call it so it's now called the Uniparty and that's where you have guys like Mitt Romney and George Bush holding hands with guys like Joe Biden and it's okay, nevermind us.

Speaker 3:

We have our other co-host just made it in. Oh, that works.

Speaker 4:

Come join the conversation.

Speaker 3:

His buttons on his button down right now are screaming. So that's all I got, Maddie. Welcome to Resh Nice to meet you.

Speaker 2:

Oh wait, sorry, there you go, pal Nice to meet you. I've enjoyed listening to you on my two hour drive and six acts of road rage and three tickets in two states.

Speaker 4:

Oh, great, great that sounds. We're going to have a product of consumer goods.

Speaker 3:

So we were in discussion of what the topics we're touching right now. I've been listening. It's fascinating, yes, and I'm scared because we talked about the. His percentage of World War III was 80%. That's Kevin's.

Speaker 1:

Solid 80.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, see, here's a question for you, resh. If you were able to give a percentage of possibility of World War III, where would you be at?

Speaker 4:

I'm not that high. I think we're at about 30% right now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, kevin's a little crazy, that's why.

Speaker 4:

And I actually Well a few things. This ties into China, because you can't lose sight of who is the number one enemy. China is a number one enemy. Not Palestine, not Iran, not Yemen, not Syria. China is a number one enemy. And where has China been in all of this Middle East conflict, this Ukraine conflict? Nowhere to be seen.

Speaker 4:

Because China is sitting back and saying let the US spend their money, let them rack up more debt we're at 33 trillion right now Let them rack up more debt, let their jobs, let them keep up with this ESG stuff, let their interest rates remain high and unemployment to go up. And we're just going to sit back. We're not going to get involved. We're going to keep running our TikToks and Facebook ad or Facebook content and just sit back and keep making those shoes and sell them to poor kids who are using their parents' welfare money. That's what we're going to do. And so we can't lose sight of China, because China is becoming stronger and stronger while we are depleting our resources. Because the US dollar is getting weaker, our military is getting weaker. That is the threat right there, and their alliance with Russia is the biggest threat to the world. Really, china and Russia combined, china has the best navy in the world. Russia still has nuclear warheads. You combine both of them and that's an extremely powerful combination. You get to move your right door.

Speaker 4:

The United States should not be getting involved in Ukraine. They're making that situation worse. In the case of Israel, palestine look absolutely. The US should stand for Israel and allow it to defend itself. But what people have to understand is that Israel is not Ukraine. Israel doesn't need to come to Washington DC every year and beg Congress for money. Israel is a self-sufficient economy. They can also do that. Israel has one of the best militaries in the world because it's mandatory to serve in the military. If you're in Israeli, talk to any Israeli and they've served in the military. Many people who did their service have gone back to serve in the military over the past month. They are extremely technologically savvy, innovative. Of course, the United States should stand for Israel, but the United States doesn't need to fight Israel's war. Israel can obliterate all the nations around it. The nations around it are third world. Israel is not.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yeah. What do you think of Egypt? They seem to be a little wildcard at the moment.

Speaker 4:

Well, egypt I don't have much of an opinion on Egypt right now. Egypt is not taking Palestinians, just like none of the Middle Eastern nations are accepting Palestinians, and that's caused even more of a humanitarian crisis because nobody wants to take them, including most of the United States don't want to take the Palestinians. That goes to show what the heck has been going on in Palestine. Why are people, why is Palestine so dependent on Israel? Why is Gaza so dependent on Israel? For electricity, for food, for water, for money? I'd say, but that's on you If you call yourself a democracy and you elect terrorists. So they elected Hamas, they were elected leaders, and you elect terrorists to run your country and you are dependent.

Speaker 4:

Dependency is the worst thing for any person or for any country. You want to become independent, you don't want to be dependent. And if Palestine or Gaza, if they're going to be dependent, well, you're going to end up in a situation like this. And so philosophically, fundamentally, I am all about self, personal responsibility and in freedom. So at the end of the day, it's all on if we can take it at a granular level, it's all on the country, it's all on the individual individualism to improve. And so if you want to stay third world. You can't blame another country for that.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree, I 100% yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean I don't know, because now that I'm thinking about that, I'm like, wow, that's like to the middle class right now in the United States, who went from being a driver, yeah, and now you're being a population to extinction. Yeah, the fact that you're the middle class. I'm difficulty surviving to where you're becoming dependent upon when you used to be more dependent on your own and now it's just Well it's tough.

Speaker 1:

I went to the grocery store today. I spent $200. I came back with like A ham. I came back with like two paper bags. So I was like, what is this?

Speaker 3:

It just scares me the fact that somebody like another country has been pretty much being the puppeteer. You know the chepetto of our nation, yeah, the chepetto of our nation, and it's what's a playbook. You know Now, how far back do you think this goes? You know, you were saying it started probably in the 80s.

Speaker 1:

Probably the 50s, when everyone was paranoid about it.

Speaker 4:

So you're talking about this Cold War, this Cold War with China? Yeah, no, it does not go back, because China had its own cultural revolution. It was figured that the Communist Chinese really took over in the 60s or so, but it wasn't until the fall of the USSR, when China replaced Russia. So it was the 90s when China said we are going to become the United States prime enemy. We're not going to fight with arms or battalions or warheads. We're going to fight through cybersecurity, through technology, through social media, through the NBA, through Nike shoes, through the media, through. That's why my nicks suck.

Speaker 3:

All things I hate. That's why my nicks suck, because the Chinese got their hands in on it. Goddamn, tell them to take Randall back then they want that. Tired of it. Tired of it, all right.

Speaker 4:

So China, they're smart people, they're very smart. These communists are very smart. They know how to attack, and the Wokesters here in this country don't understand that by being woke, they're actually being controlled by the Chinese and, as I mentioned earlier, china loves. There's a term in Mandarin called baisuo, which means woke in Mandarin, and so every time they see on TikTok a video of, let's say, in California, a bunch of parents facing off against Antifa, because the parents are upset that math and science and reading and honors classes are being taken away or are being given the attention that they deserve, and Antifa is saying no, it's more important that we learn about the different, the 39 different genders and pronouns and all these different things, china is yelling baisuo. That's exactly what we want. We want these people fighting over pronouns and whether men can get pregnant.

Speaker 1:

God, it's just so. It's laughable that even it's like that show Like you're able to say shit like that out loud and it's like what's happening in the world.

Speaker 3:

It's a show. Alienation. That's what it is.

Speaker 4:

It's crazy I mean, and the other versions of that are race. This obsession over race has been taken to extremes that it's just irrelevant now, really, and we've gone backwards. Yes, we have gone backwards when it comes to the debate and discussion about race, because we've actually gone forward as far as racial injustice not being much of a thing anymore. Just look at the statistics and look at the data. If you look at, for example let's start with police officers the idea that the police are run by white males completely false.

Speaker 4:

The major cities that see the highest crime, most of their police chiefs are African American or Hispanic Most. If we were to look at the composition of police officers, 20% of police officers are African American, another 20% are Hispanic, another 20% are other minority, like women, lgbtq or other ethnicities. So a white male police officer is actually in the minority. It's only about 45% of police officers are white men. So this idea that a bunch of white supremacist men run the police forces all around the country is false. So why do we have to racialize police? Why do we have to racialize another three-letter acronym?

Speaker 3:

Because it pokes the hornets nasty. It gets tense To get a rise in people.

Speaker 1:

You get noticed when you start invoking these.

Speaker 4:

If you look at the statistics, dei stands for diversity, equity and inclusion. I can talk about some DEI programs that I've attended and I'll get to that. This idea that corporate America again is run by a bunch of white men false. I can tell you. I'm an Indian American. We comprise a 1% of the US population, like that. 20% of the healthcare executives are Indian American. 20% of physicians in the United States Indian American. If you go to a rural area, that number is about 30% of doctors in rural areas are Indian American. If you look at Fortune 1000 companies, approximately 5% of Fortune 1000 companies are run either as CEO, president or chairperson, chairman, chairwoman Indian American. If this country is so racist, why isn't that white man able to hold Indian Americans down? I'll tell you why. You have to get down to the root of the issue. It's because our parents were immigrants and their philosophy, their value system, was we put our hands down. You're going to be a doctor. We work hard, you go to school and you get all the easy read books, you get educated.

Speaker 4:

That's why there was no white supremacists who could stop that.

Speaker 2:

What a concept. People who actually deserve to be in those positions or in those positions.

Speaker 4:

Earthocracy. That's what this country was founded on. Now, does that mean, does racism exist? Absolutely, yeah, of course Of course Always will Do. White supremacists exist, absolutely they exist, but this idea that they're everywhere, that racism is everywhere, that you can't even leave your house because it comes to your racist system.

Speaker 2:

We're running to Matt. Take it easy and off.

Speaker 4:

And in real people in the country, including minorities, including people of color, most people. Racism isn't even a top 50 issue. If you look at polls of what issues mean the most, we're looking at economy, jobs, education, inflation, wages, pay, crime. Racism is very low on the list, very, very low on the list. Like I said, it's not a top 50 issue. And I'll say somebody asked me they said have you ever experienced racism? And when I went back and started thinking about things, I really struggled to find instances where I truly experienced racism. Have people been mean to me? Yes, have people been assholes? Yes, but is that because they were racist? No, yes.

Speaker 1:

They were probably New Yorkers. That's why, yeah, awkward, that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 3:

That's okay. No, but now so you really have an experience, is it more? I mean, it's just God. It's so difficult to describe what racism is, because from seeing back in the 60s and whatnot, to what it is now, it's more of kind of a.

Speaker 2:

Uses a narrative. Yeah, it's just to.

Speaker 3:

I don't know get out of the two groups of actually just having a conversation one night. I think that's our biggest difficulty right now, as a country is, one side can't sit down with another side and have a conversation.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's like you said it doesn't rank in the top. What would you say? The top 50? 50 things, right, I said, but it was all over the media. For how long.

Speaker 3:

You see it all the time. Yeah, it's just a narrative that you pushed. It's just cells. Now do you? Because it Now go ahead and write to me.

Speaker 4:

Well, it's cells. At the end of the day, it's cells. It's interesting, it's a very interesting topic, but if you were to again dissect the source, if you were to really drill down into the source of the issue, and you will see that it very likely did not have to do with race or color or gender or anything like that. So if we were to come up with examples, let's take George Floyd, for example. If George Floyd never took all that marijuana, cocaine and fentanyl and alcohol, mixed it all together, and if he didn't lose his job because he lost his job as a result of COVID lockdowns, then he wouldn't have gone into that convenience store and given a fake what was it? A $10 bill or $20 bill to the cashier. The owner of that convenience store called the police because anybody whether the person was yellow or white or black or any he would have called the police on anybody who gave a fake dollar bill. So these were all reasons about what happened.

Speaker 4:

Now I thought the police officer could have handled that better. Yeah, certainly could have handled that better Slightly, but if you watch the full video of why the police acted the way they did, why it took four police officers to handle this one individual? It's because he had run into the cops before. He's a really big, he's a former professional basketball player. Professional meaning he played very briefly overseas, played in college. Big guy, athletic guy. A small five-foot-eight police officer is not going to be able to handle that. That's why you're going to need three or four of them to handle that.

Speaker 4:

So was it an injustice? Absolutely, and that police officer should be. I believe he appealed again, but he should. That manslaughter charge should absolutely stick and he should serve jail time. He has been serving jail time before that. But to say that he did it because he was black, that officer had a history with him and that's why he treated him the way he did. Just like officers treat white people the way that they treat white, I mean way more white people are incarcerated, not on a percentage basis but on a total number, total numbers. Way more are incarcerated, arrested, et cetera, et cetera. And you have to drill down and look at the reasons for that. Whereas my race, only 1% of the US population, not even 0.1% of my race is incarcerated, and that's not because we are given preferential treatment. Again, it goes back to the sources. That's just not a part of our value system overall. It's not that our parents didn't come here from a foreign country to raise people like that.

Speaker 1:

So I got a question for you now. Does your China puppeteering the infiltration of the country? Do you give credit to them for, like, say, crack and the CIA and people in government then breaking up the nucleus of the African-American family back then? Does it go that deep into your thoughts?

Speaker 3:

Do you think China was involved with the?

Speaker 1:

I'm asking. I'm asking Because you were saying earlier about how China would come in and infiltrate the country through government and education and all this kind of stuff. Do you think they were involved with crack cocaine and breaking up the African-American family in the 80s and stuff too?

Speaker 4:

Well, not in the 80s because, like I said, the Chinese called war didn't start until the 90s, but right now is a perfect example of fentanyl, for example. So fentanyl last year, 2022, there were more than 100,000 people who died from fentanyl overdose, and there is a huge fentanyl epidemic in the United States. And the question is where is everyone getting this fentanyl from? Because the doctors aren't prescribing it.

Speaker 3:

That's where we order our medicine from. Of course it's China.

Speaker 4:

And well, again, china's very good at masking this stuff, because it's not like the Chinese are sending a bunch of mules over to the United States on airplanes and just disseminating fentanyl. The way that it's happening is through Mexico, through the cartels. Mexico is a partner of China's and China is able to create the fentanyl, manufacture it and send it to Mexico and then, like you said, the cartels that run Mexico.

Speaker 3:

You sure it's not an LLC from Hunter? Yeah, I mean, I could see that happening.

Speaker 4:

That could be happening. But what do we have? We have an open border. So when an open border is no border, so when you can just walk right in, let's walk in with a bunch of fentanyl and boom. They already know who their target market is. They go to their target market and fentanyl is being sold left and right. People are dying, not just from overdoses, they're dying accidentally. Someone who you know, a kid, who's 16 years old and wants some Adderall before his final exam, thinks that he's getting Adderall. And it turns out some drug dealer who was duped by a Mexican, you know cartel member, told him oh yeah, this is, this is Adderall. Turns out it's fentanyl. Take the pill and you die. So this is another way.

Speaker 4:

Again, you don't need guns and knives and weapons to destroy a nation if you're at war. This is an indirect way that the Chinese are attacking the United States. Can you imagine? Over a hundred thousand people died last year in 9 11. There were less than 2000 people who died on nine, which was like the biggest catastrophe that we've seen in our lifetimes in one day. A hundred thousand people dead in one year is like more than 59 11s, and still you don't hear the politicians talk about this. You don't hear. The drug, the pharmaceutical companies talk about this. You don't hear. That's because everybody's in everybody's pockets Right.

Speaker 1:

That absolutely you know. They're not going to give themselves bad press.

Speaker 4:

Exactly so and, by the way, I'm going to say, 3000 people died in 9 11. So it's about 30 33 times as many people died from fentanyl last year and I have a feeling the numbers are going to get worse this year because our border, border issues are even worse this year. So we'll see the numbers that come out. But this is another way that the, that China is attacking the United States, and this is killing. Like you said, this is killing low income people, people in the African American community. This is a huge problem and it's not being tackled correctly.

Speaker 1:

Do you, do you think it can change in one election cycle?

Speaker 4:

Absolutely, because we saw, with Donald Trump, I actually didn't think I was like, oh you know, this guy's going to come in and like it's just going to be the same old crap. We actually saw him come in and overnight, overnight, flights were stopped from nations that were a risk to the United States Somalia, syria, venezuela, north Korea flights were stopped. We saw, overnight he passed him in, congress passed. Hey, if you're illegal, we'll find you and we will deport you. Boom, hired, a bunch more ice workers and people are being deported left and right.

Speaker 4:

We saw I thought it would take like years to see these types of results, but it was like literally overnight we saw people being deported, people being prosecuted. It can absolutely happen if the right candidate is is elected, and I think I think there are really only two candidates on the Republican side who are America first candidates and who can make this happen quickly, because the other politicians, like you said, they're bought and paid for. If you're bought and paid for, it, nothing's going to change. Really, if stuff changes, it's going to be very incremental change.

Speaker 3:

Is that why Trump is seeing 39 indictments, because they don't want him to run in 2024?

Speaker 4:

No, I don't think. That's the reason why I actually think that they do want him to run and they want him to be the nominee and they want to indict him, but they do not want to send him to jail. They want to indict him because they think meaning the Democrats think that the independence and the third party voters and the GOP establishment and the you know, the bushes of the world, the neocons they're not going to vote for a guy who's convicted of anything, even if it's one charge, they're not going to vote for him. They're going to vote for a third party. Or, if they hate Biden enough, they'll vote for a third party or they're going to vote for Biden.

Speaker 4:

I think this was all planned and organized. I think what we're going to see is, once Trump is the nominee, we're going to see one, a couple of convictions and then, all of a sudden, a lot of these legal, these charges are going to magically disappear. That's what I think is going to happen. I don't think they're going to throw him in jail. They're not going to convict him of 90-something charges, because, of course, then he'll have to spend time in jail. It's going to be a handful of stuff and, remember, most of these charges are bogus. I think there is some merit on two or three of them.

Speaker 3:

What makes you say that? From some of the stuff I've been reading, it's just been absolutely nonsense of what he's being indicted with.

Speaker 4:

It's a huge mockery.

Speaker 3:

Our tax dollars are going towards a falsehood of trying to indict them on bullshit charges, but yet what they're doing to me, in my mind, that's backfiring on them because it's creating more of a backing for him.

Speaker 4:

But again, I don't think they did this. I think that's the easy thing to say oh, they're trying to keep him from running, they want to keep him off the ballot. I think they absolutely want him on the ballot. They want him to be the nominee because they know that any other Republican who goes up against Biden is going to crush Biden. He's going to cream Biden.

Speaker 3:

Slimer from the Ghostbusters would beat Biden right now, I think.

Speaker 4:

Exactly, exactly. They beat Trump in 2020. They had a good plan, a good strategy back then. I think they have a pretty good plan and a good strategy this time around too, because, again, it's not the registered Trumpsters who are going to decide the election, or the registered radical leftists who are going to decide the election. It's the independents, the third party people, the no party affiliation. Those are the people who will decide the election.

Speaker 4:

The Democrats are banking on the hope that, because all the people going out in the primaries to vote for Trump in the primaries, those are Trumpsters. But again, those third party independent people, they're the swing voters. They're hoping okay, if we throw all these charges at him, those people are going to think oh wow, how can I vote for a guy who has a 93, 94, whatever it is charges against him? If they indict him on one or two of them, then he becomes a convicted criminal. So it becomes. Why would I vote for a convicted criminal? Yeah, biden sucks, but I'll just vote third party type of thing or maybe I'll just vote for Biden. I'm certainly not going to be voting for Trump. That's a strategy that they're playing here. So the question is will those moderate third party independents. Have the brain power, have the critical thinking to where they're like. Hey, this is all a sham. I'm still going to vote for Donald Trump. I don't know. We'll find out.

Speaker 2:

Who do you think could compete with Trump for the nominee?

Speaker 4:

No, no no, nobody in the on the Republican side, nobody, nobody can compete with him. You, I think he's up like 49%. That's the closest somebody is to him. 50%.

Speaker 3:

Well, according to Alexa, she says Biden's leading. Last time I asked Alexa, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Well, on the on the Democrat side that's a point.

Speaker 4:

On the Republican side, nobody can compete with Trump and I think they all, they all somewhat know that.

Speaker 4:

I think the candidates like Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley jumped into the race because DeSantis had a lot of momentum and a lot of financial backing and Nikki Haley her donors told her hey, this guy's going to get invited and there's a chance that he's not going to run. So I think that's why they got into this and that's why they don't speak much about Trump. But as people have learned more about the law and that Trump can still run even if he's convicted, and it's going to be impossible to take him off the ballots in any of the states, I mean they're trying right now. So the more legal stuff, and then the whole insurrection January 6th there was no legal case there to keep him from running. So they've now they're they jumped in and they're like oh, that didn't really work out. In the case of DeSantis, I think he's regretting it tremendously. In the case of Nikki Haley, I think she's still hoping that something happens to his health or something, because then she'll be the she thinks she's going to be the nominee. So that's why they're running.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, DeSantis lost a lot of shine.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so it's look, he stole the guy. Is he going to become the president? I don't know, but he is just blowing the competition out of the water, and I think this is exactly the way that the Democrats planned it out. The only thing that they wouldn't be able to plan out is if they end up losing the election. What are your thoughts on?

Speaker 1:

RFK.

Speaker 4:

I like RFK because he speaks his mind, he speaks from the heart. He has a lot of old school Democrat leanings that are not today's Democrat party I like. I certainly appreciate his views on health and wellness and the vaccines, the if you were the shot, the COVID shots. I don't agree with all of his platform. I think he's a little out there when it comes to the global warming, esg, climate change stuff. I think he's out there when it comes to meritocracy, when it comes to affirmative action. But again, he's very genuine. He certainly very genuine.

Speaker 4:

He's somebody who I considered voting for as third party, but I won't be voting for him because he's just so to the left on other issues. But I definitely I don't have bad things to say about his character or his policies. If he believes in those things, he's entitled to those beliefs. That's fine. And what I like about him is he shares that same sentiment of hey, I believe this, you believe that and that's okay. It's not a radical leftist. Hey, I believe that men can get pregnant and if you don't believe that, you are the worst human being in the world, you're racist.

Speaker 3:

You're the worst human being in the world.

Speaker 4:

I'll take it.

Speaker 1:

I'll take it, you're racist too.

Speaker 2:

I don't appreciate your tone, sir. I always like I wish she.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I think she would have. If, if Tulsi Gabbard was running, yeah, I do, I like I do. I think she would have.

Speaker 1:

I like to see her in a cabinet, not run for president.

Speaker 4:

I do think if Trump gets elected, I do think she will be. I think she will be in the cabinet, not VP. I don't think she's going to be VP, but I do think she would be in the cabinet to help with this mess, to keep us from getting into World War three. You think like secretary?

Speaker 1:

of state, or maybe that's a little too high for her. Something like that.

Speaker 4:

You know, secretary of state, homeland security, something of that nature.

Speaker 3:

But she's got to kill people like Hillary did, though that's the only thing.

Speaker 1:

Careful, careful man.

Speaker 4:

You can't say that stuff out loud. I think Trump has to pick a. And again, I'm not about I'm all about picking the best person, but the way that the the moderates, the way that the radical left has shaped things, trump has to pick a woman because of the abortion issue or he has to pick a person of color. Really you think so? Yeah, he's. He's developed this false narrative as, as you know, this super white supremacist and white supremacy is taking over America.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing how he was painted like that too.

Speaker 3:

I thought he was a grand, he's not a grand wizard. I thought that's like I mean.

Speaker 1:

Jesus, like all the little snippets they just like misrepresent on the TV with the, with the. Going back to the stuff in Virginia, you know the stuff in. Virginia, they took little snippets and and they just like didn't play the whole interview.

Speaker 3:

No, yeah, you can manipulate any type of. That's why we we most of the time we see what we see on the news when we're like second guessing stuff and I was like you know, that sounds like that's made up.

Speaker 1:

But then they, you play the whole thing, you hear it in the right context, but they still stick to their guns. It's like but he's still racist. No said that was like no, that's not what he said, though, right, I just don't know how they get away with that.

Speaker 4:

Again, race is popular because when people are down and out, they want to blame something and race is the easiest thing to blame. It's the whole Charlottesville thing I can't believe. I think people will believe what they want to believe and Trump denounced the white supremacists and charts Charlottesville. The day after the event, he gave a speech denouncing them and then the White House even put out a transcript of what he said and a press relief press release denouncing the white supremacists at the event. And people lose sight of why was that event even taking place? It was not a white supremacist rally, it was. It was a protest about whether a statue of Robert E Lee should be taken down ata park. That was named Robert E Lee Park.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to say, yes, take it down.

Speaker 4:

So when Trump said there were two people, there were good people on both sides people got confused about what side. People thought it was a white supremacist rally. No, you're either on the side of hey, I think we should remove the statue and change the name of the park, versus the other side, which is I think we should keep the name of the park and keep the statue, Because the moment you take down the statue and change the name of the park, now you got to change Robert E Lee. I grew up in Houston and there was a school called Robert E Lee High School and then there's a school called Washington and Lee University, a very good private school that's named after who's Lee, George Washington and Robert E Lee. So now, all of a sudden, you need to change names of cities, of schools, Teams and teams. Now do you want to go down that rabbit hole of okay, we got rid of this statue and we changed the name of the park. Now we got to do it forever.

Speaker 4:

And what ESPN did that day? This was the funniest part. This was funny and sad, because ESPN took the side of we need to remove Robert E Lee Park. We need to remove the Robert E Lee statue. Well, guess what? Espn employed a broadcaster named Robert E Lee, and so they demoted him from calling a game in Virginia. Literally two days after that protest, and they said you can't call this game in Virginia because your name is Robert Lee. It is very offensive. Oh, I hope you sued them. I would imagine so.

Speaker 4:

The funniest part about this this poor guy spent his whole career trying to make it to ESPN, be a broadcaster, play by play. Robert Lee for ESPN wasn't even white, he was a Chinese guy. Oh man, oh, I got it. Wait, we're back full circle again China's hands involved.

Speaker 3:

Unbelievable, that's unbelievable. That whole aspect of us, like during the whole woke culture that I was going through, like the fact that going back in history and taking down statues and what like that didn't solve, or even if doing it wouldn't solve any problems or issues and whatnot it was. You know it's our history. Learn from our history and whatnot. Move forward. They created to be such a huge, like vitriol, and now let's sooner or later take down George Washington frigging on his horse or something, just to make people's feelings feel better.

Speaker 1:

I'm just so tired of it.

Speaker 4:

It doesn't change. Removing Robert Lee's name and removing his statues today does not fix Again. Let's get down to the root of the problems for these people, because these people have been interviewed and they said you know my problem, my life is great. Now the statue is removed, like I was losing sleep over this. You know like it's. This is the problem. There's a complete lack of purpose and meaning. This can go back to China. This can go back to schooling, to education, to what teachers are teaching. And again, robert E Lee. It's important to understand.

Speaker 4:

It wasn't just Robert E Lee who was canceled. Abraham Lincoln yeah, statues of Abraham Lincoln were taken down, defaced. That makes no sense at all for a guy who freed the slaves literally freed the slaves to take him down. A major reason was because he was the first Republican. So I said oh, abraham Lincoln was a Republican, he needs to be canceled.

Speaker 4:

Ben Carson, who was housing an urban development secretary for Trump canceled. Why? Because he was a part of the Trump administration. That man, once a Johns Hopkins residency neurosurgeon, did the first ever Siamese twin successful Siamese twin brain separation. Canceled Ben Carson High School change the name because Ben Carson is apparently a white supremacist. This is the type of stuff.

Speaker 4:

We live in a cancel culture today that is so out of hand to where they don't even understand that the causes that they are fighting for. They are taking it backward, they are more divisive, they are more racist and sexist, and you name it. Any is out of any other. Any ism out there. Most of America, most of the right, has certainly moved on, and it's about meritocracy, it's about personality, it's about common interests, it's about God and religion and values and more, but they still radical. I still want to racialize and radicalize everything and we see it. The what's happening with the anti-Semitic stuff today? It's all over TikTok, all over Instagram. What's happening is that's the radical left at its finest. It makes no sense at all. They make no sense at all. They're lost. They're very lost.

Speaker 1:

But how do they have so much?

Speaker 4:

pull Back on Joe Biden.

Speaker 1:

Like how do they have so much pull? It seems like the smallest amount of voices have all this fucking pull. Like it's in my face everywhere. The loudest voice in the room Like how is that possible?

Speaker 4:

There's a small fringe minority that has a very loud voice, very, very loud voice, to answer your question. How, though? How are they able to get such a loud voice? I can't answer that. Is it China?

Speaker 1:

It could be like right it could be right.

Speaker 4:

I think that's the most logical answer, based on everything we've talked about today, that I can give.

Speaker 3:

Quick thing, nuresh, I actually have one of our guests who's watching, one of our fans who's watching Our buddy Dro down in Tennessee. He had a question where he wanted to know who had. Let's see where the hell did it go?

Speaker 1:

Who is?

Speaker 3:

better to fight the elites in the swamp? Would it be Kennedy or Trump?

Speaker 4:

So I, trump, had his chance, and I think that was the biggest pitfall of his presidency. He was president for four years and that was his chance to drain the swamp like he said he would do, and he wasn't able to do it. I think a major reason why? Look, he's got some personality flaws. He also doesn't understand the Constitution or the law. He had to learn the roads, you know, right, he did.

Speaker 4:

I actually don't think either. I think both of them should be a part of the fight to fight the elites, but I don't think either can truly overcome the elites. I actually think Vivek Ramaswamy, who's running for president on a platform of truly an actual plan of destroying the deep state, and that's through laying off 75 to 80% of the workforce and cutting the federal government, removing the Department of Education, the Department of Energy, just so many worthless departments that do nothing to add to Americans lives, who spread this nonsense, critical race theory and all this race and gender ideology that's coming from the Department of Education. And so I think the benefit of him, and I'm not saying he should be president, I'm saying that he should certainly work in an administration as a VP or as a top advisor, because he'll be able. He knows that he has a law degree from Yale and, like, knows the Constitution very well.

Speaker 4:

I think he has a better chance of fighting the elites and draining the swamp, because he's actually come out with a plan on how to eliminate 80% of the federal government, and so I won't be surprised if Trump I know he's been paying attention to Vivek I won't be surprised if he names Vivek to his cabinet as, like, a very important post, almost like a post that's created specifically to, like, eliminate the deep state, or, as his VP running made. And Kennedy should certainly be a part of Trump's cabinet as well. I think Kennedy should maybe be Attorney General or running Health and Human Services or the FDA. I don't think the elites are going to hate him running Health and Human Services and the FDA, but even Attorney General I think he would be very good at. And I think a Ram Paul Senator out of Kentucky would be another fine person who can help fight the elites as well, because he's another one of those people who wants to bring our deficit back, balance the budget, drain the DC swamp. So there's several people.

Speaker 1:

Like, how long do you think it takes to drain it? You know, like is it?

Speaker 4:

one more term?

Speaker 1:

Is it like two years? You know, is it first six months?

Speaker 4:

It can be done within, because here's what's going to happen. Say, for example, trump comes in and he says all right, I'm shutting down the Department of Education, I'm shutting down the Department of Energy, I'm shutting down the FBI, and it's going to take about a year. The reason why is because there are going to be lawsuits galore from people who are laid off, from people who lose their jobs, from the Democrats. They're going to be lawsuits and it's going to work its way through to the Supreme Court Because there's civil service protection, something called civil service protection. What civil service protection does not protect against is mass layoffs. It does protect individuals on an individual basis, but it does not protect against mass layoffs. And it also it also states in the US Constitution that the executive branch can do this during times of, let's say, like extraordinary times, where inflation is high, or if you run up a $30 trillion deficit or national debt. These are all.

Speaker 4:

Think about any business. If a business is $30 trillion and debt I mean the business is even three million dollars in debt what do they do? They lay people off and they consolidate and they shut down divisions and they say we're not going to work on this product anymore, we're not going to develop that thing. We're going to cut this marketing budget. The federal government needs to do the same thing, and the fact of the matter is most people know this. These 75 to 80% of government workers are not doing much. To begin with, they can easily be replaced by technology. There's a misnomer about oh the FBI shutting down, our national security is at risk. No, the good people stay and they're transferred to the US Marshals or to some other department and everything continues as usual. That US citizens wouldn't even notice that anything's changed.

Speaker 1:

You're just cutting a lot of it. Just give rid of the board members, right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's like Facebook. They laid off a ton of people last year, 2022. I use Facebook. Did I notice that? Did I feel the pain of all? The? No, the app still works fine for me and I still post pictures and videos. Nothing's changed.

Speaker 4:

The same thing with the US government.

Speaker 4:

You're getting rid of people who should be able to find honest work, or who should find I shouldn't say should be able to, but should find honest work in the private sector, and so that's how you drain the swamp and that's how you fight the elites.

Speaker 4:

Because the elites they want big government, because the elites they donate money, they could broke low type of deals, and so they want that bureaucracy, they want that swamp to be around. And I feel like only a political outsider which Kennedy is, which Trump is, which the vague is only a political outsider can come in with a business background, which Kennedy doesn't have as much of a background in. He does have a very storied legal background, so he's important for this fight. But only someone with a business background can come in political outsider and truly drain the swamp. And that was my biggest problem with Trump. It's the one thing, the two things I wanted him to do drain the swamp and election reform. He didn't do either of them, and both of those areas are the reasons why he lost 2020 and why January 6th happened.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 3:

I just thought I had a break for it. Don't mind me, I was doing technology stuff behind the scenes, trying to get some stuff done. Now I mean it's so we hit China. What is your your feelings upon? Oh my God, I haven't slept in days. Don't mind me, nourish.

Speaker 2:

Just breathe. Take a second.

Speaker 3:

I just had the question in front of me and I friggin. Of course I have to shut my phone off because I'm an idiot, but Was it swap related or?

Speaker 1:

We're really, we're really bad at technology.

Speaker 3:

Now, the thing I wanted to touch up on was actually your podcast anomics, the book podcast anomics. I apologize Now because we've been we've been doing our podcast for going past three years now and we've had some success. We've had some, some failures, Highs and lows, yeah, but we we didn't notice, like when we first started off is when the, the 2020 election was going on we, certain topics we were talking about and whatnot, Like I noticed our numbers kind of like got suppressed and stuff, Just because of I think we were, we were, oh yeah, we fell on the algorithm. Then we decided that, away from politics, lo and behold, our numbers. Our numbers came back Now, Coincidentally, in Russia, yes, we were very big in the UK, which is crazy. Now, your advice on those those who are podcasting what is the? The probably the best advice you can, you can give to a podcast that's looking to monetize, it's looking to grow its audience and and just get noticed?

Speaker 4:

I say this in podcasts. It is to capture your audience, it's to capture your traffic. So you said that you have listeners in Europe and Russia and UK. You want to capture the traffic so that you can actually quantify hey, these are like people who actually listen to me, they're not just some Chinese bots or Russian bots or anything like that. You want to capture that traffic and engage once you capture our numbers, kind of like.

Speaker 3:

We're good.

Speaker 2:

Sorry.

Speaker 3:

It's my fat sausage finger that touched something.

Speaker 4:

Oh, no worries. So you want to capture, and the best way to capture is through. I think there are many different ways to capture. There's Facebook, there's X, there's LinkedIn, there's TikTok simulcasting, there's YouTube, but I think the central nucleus should be email capture. You should be capturing email addresses through a website, because now, when you capture listeners, you're able to converse with them and keep them up to date. Hey, we just came out with this episode with a racist of this we talked about. Hey, we're running this special promotion, we're selling this book.

Speaker 1:

So you get an email instead of a notification from an app?

Speaker 4:

Well, that should still be there. That's still there. The app notification is still there. But from a business perspective, if you can quantify, if you can capture that traffic then let's say you wanted to go to Salem Radio you can go to them and say, hey, look at all these emails that we have access to. These are people all listened to our show and we hit this email list with deals and other things. It's another data point to give potential acquires, partners, advertisers, etc. I think that's again in my book, podcastomics. I talk about this in depth.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. I have one more question for you, if you don't mind. You went to Syracuse.

Speaker 4:

You also went to.

Speaker 1:

Duke, yeah, the Duke Business School, yes, duke. Syracuse, final Four who are you taking?

Speaker 4:

Where does?

Speaker 1:

your loyalty lie.

Speaker 4:

Well, it's not about loyalty. I try to keep it real here. I think Duke is in a much better position because Syracuse basketball was all about Jim Behan. He stepped down as coach. He was, I think, almost 80 years old, late 70s. He stepped down a few months ago. So they have a new coach there at Syracuse. I think Syracuse is going to struggle to recruit.

Speaker 4:

I thought Behan was Syracuse basketball. He's underrated, just a very underrated college coach, very innovative. The whole zone defense thing throws teams completely off guard. So in 2016, syracuse made the Final Four. Yep, and I said I'm pretty sure this is going to be the last time in my lifetime that Syracuse makes the Final Four. So I booked tickets and went to the Final Four because I thought that was going to be the last time, and I still do think it's going to be the last time.

Speaker 4:

I think Syracuse basketball is on a major decline. In 2016, they made the Final Four, they had some sanctions against it, lost some scholarships and all that. And then I knew Behan was going to be retiring within the next 10 years. So once the recruiting violations and all were taken care of, that takes us to like 2020. And then I knew okay, behan only has a year or two after that. So I'm taking Duke because Duke is Duke. The Duke basketball brand is just internationally recognized. The school is a top-notch school. It's easier to get recruits, it's an easier geography to recruit out of instead of upstate New York. So Duke basketball.

Speaker 3:

You don't think there's no selling point on five feet of snow up in Syracuse?

Speaker 4:

Jim Behan was a selling point. That's very true. The other selling point is hey, if you want to when I was playing growing up it's if you want to be lazy, you play zone defense. So that could be a selling point. But the new coach, he said outright we're not going to be playing zone 100% like Behan was.

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm rooting for the Red Storm this year, even though I'm a Georgetown fan. The Red because Redman, red Storm, whatever. Whatever they are now.

Speaker 4:

St John's.

Speaker 3:

You know, just to see what Petino does when he's there the fact that he brought a couple of kids from Iona over and he had a couple transfers. They look siloed this year. I want to see what they do and see if they make a ripple.

Speaker 4:

It's been a super long time since St John. I think it's been like 11 years since they made the NCAA tournament. Yeah, it's cool, it's been a while.

Speaker 3:

I didn't even remember it's because they haven't. Like. Back in the day, in the 80s, they were like just relevant, and now it's they haven't been relevant in years.

Speaker 1:

So that was also before all the conferences went crazy. Yeah, you know now it's just like conference mania now, with basketball especially.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean I think St John's made it in 2019, so I didn't. I didn't know that 20 made the NCAA tournament, but they, they haven't done anything in college basketball. It's since Ron Artes, I'd say since the 90s.

Speaker 1:

Probably Felipe Lopez, Ron Artes Felipe Lopez, believe it or not?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I was going to say our tests. They had a couple of other players who, yeah, our tests, but they haven't really done anything. I think I think that Tino is the best coach in college basketball from that generation. I thought he he learned from Bayhime. I thought he was better than Bayhime, better than coach Kay, Better than Izzo, and so I expect the Red Storm to make the NCAA tournament. Let's go within the next three years and make it like deep to actually do something in the tournament within the next five years.

Speaker 3:

We're all about deep over here, draft Kings.

Speaker 1:

Let's go check those early lines, that's great.

Speaker 3:

Anything else from you guys.

Speaker 2:

No, no, are you? You're struggling.

Speaker 3:

Making it. Yeah, man, you're struggling to keep your eyes open.

Speaker 1:

I'm surprised you made it. They look all red it was it was rough.

Speaker 2:

I was expecting a little show bourbon, and there was none.

Speaker 1:

No, I know you're coming. It was like 50 50.

Speaker 3:

You weren't coming, but the rush from us here at the Take it Deep show. We can't thank you enough for joining us tonight. Yes, it's been a pleasure. You are more than welcome on future shows to come on discuss any topics, anything current of course, and and hopefully we can figure out a plan to get China's fingers off of us.

Speaker 4:

You know, I think that's a good way to end. I think that's a good way to end. And the way to end is how do we get China's fingers off of us? I think it's pretty simple. It's bring back unleash the US American economy manufacturing, drilling, burning coal, using manufacturing within, using artificial intelligence and technology within the United States. I don't trust that. I and and and for for other products.

Speaker 4:

This is where I disagree with Trump on. It can't be 100 percent America first, because people at the end of the day, consumers are going to buy it. Why do consumers? Consumers don't look at where a product is made Like. They don't look at the labels on a shirt and say, oh, it was made in China, I don't want to buy it. They look at the price and is by the cheapest price.

Speaker 4:

Well, that's where you get in countries like India and Malaysia, indonesia, australia, the South Korea, vietnam, philippines to replace what China was doing for the United States a major chunk of it. So you bring most of it back to the US, because the US has so much that it's not doing right now through the energy space, and then use these other countries where allies were not at war with the United States, who are begging for more business and more relations with the United States. So you use these other countries and boom, you can get off of China. That codependency relationship is is over and we don't need to go to war or or anything. It's the world's a big place. The world is not China, not yet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well yeah, just fingers crossed over here, that's all I got to say. All right, but yeah, we can't appreciate enough for joining us.

Speaker 2:

Definitely more than welcome in future shows Any time you want to get something out there.

Speaker 3:

And we look forward to seeing what, because sooner or later it sounds like you're going to be running for president. I think I would definitely vote for you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's hot. That's not happening anytime soon.

Speaker 1:

That's sooner or later you got anything you want to plug real quick, Marish.

Speaker 4:

I want. I want people to go on Amazon to type in my name, Nourish Vissa. You'll find Trump book on there. Feel free to get a copy of that and if you have any questions, you can visit my website, Nourish Vissa dot com. Nourish Vissa dot com. Get all my mailing lists there, Stay up to date with what's going on with me and, like I said, if you have any questions want to get in touch, just contact me through that website.

Speaker 3:

Sounds awesome. What I'll do, too, is I'll send you everything as well from our recording that we have. I'm going to put your links in the summary of the show for the Amazon, for the Trump book, for your website, just to get you know, get you in touch with our fans.

Speaker 1:

Sorry yeah, and we apologize I had a time for that.

Speaker 2:

So just so you know, I love it.

Speaker 3:

I'd absolutely love it. Thanks, bud, thanks for joining us and until next time All right, thank you, all right, take care, good night.

Speaker 2:

That was awesome yeah yeah, absolutely awesome. That was like. That was like a real show, right, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I had to be better prepared next time. I mean, I mean I had some chaos Going on.

Speaker 1:

I was like dude.

Speaker 3:

I'm in here, I get lost. You know China.

Speaker 2:

That's why the control of the highway. I feel that's going to be an underlying tone to the rest of the next few shows.

Speaker 3:

Well, I thought this would be. Yeah, I wanted to play that. So bad when I was like no, I can't do that. I can't do that. What do you say? China has the fingers on us.

Speaker 1:

Giggity, giggity, giggity, giggity giggity, let's have sex OK.

Speaker 3:

They're a little. They're a little, just pause, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2:

It was so serious I wanted to try to steer it away from that for a minute, but I was like there's just there's no good, there's no good segue for it, no right.

Speaker 3:

But Thank you, ben. Thanks, ben. Yeah, we're definitely going to be. I'm going to get on the next email to the next Next guest, victor. No, no, there's like I've been reading them off. There's, there's some there. I'm just like you're not coming on the show, and then there's some there who are extremely interesting.

Speaker 2:

So we got to get one of those stand up comedians on here just for to go.

Speaker 3:

See, there was one that I read. I don't know if the guys to stand up comedian, because he listed stand up comedians. I didn't know who the guy's name is.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I was like oh that's weird, oh it seems funny, Otherwise we'll, we'll, we'll make him get off the show. You know, Kevin, no small bladder had to.

Speaker 3:

He had to do it earlier. He does it now. But I mean, dude, that's a, it's two hours and 40 minutes.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think I was most of the first time.

Speaker 3:

Most of the first hour was getting caught.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know I was watching that. So what do you want to talk about? The pre-show wasn't much of a pre-show, Kevin's like, oh no.

Speaker 3:

He's got a very depressed.

Speaker 2:

He's got to talk into the microphone. No, he was he was.

Speaker 3:

I'm telling you it's, it's been he's. I haven't had one complain of it yet with him today. Well, it either it could have been cutting out as per, but you were, you, were.

Speaker 2:

you were like boom and like I almost had to turn the sound down when you were talking. Oh yeah, he was. He was all muffled and was my, my strippers Always too loud for you.

Speaker 3:

You were, you were up close Cinnamon cinnamon, main stage cinnamon. Don't worry, because shortly the share microphones will will be coming in. So and then we can do. We can do a sage cleaning soon.

Speaker 2:

A cleansing. Yeah, because I'm going to need that If you will.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to need that and I'm going to need to be.

Speaker 2:

It looks like we did a cleansing.

Speaker 1:

I need. I need a full colonic. You want some like sage scented hand white dude. I need a fucking priest right now.

Speaker 3:

That's all I know.

Speaker 2:

And whoever was, go go online and get ordained. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Where? Where are the warrants? Where are the warrants when I need them? They're from Tom and Lorraine. Yeah, then they're very crooked, by the way. Oh yeah, Are they? Yeah, you saw that. You know what I'm talking about. You saw that show?

Speaker 1:

I speak no ill will of nobody, especially people like those people. What People like? What people the warheads aren't? They like freaky fucking. I see dead people, people.

Speaker 3:

They don't see him. I mean, lorraine was a, she had whatever. You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she could like see dead people, right? Yes, about that. What do you think?

Speaker 2:

of the show. I like it. I like it a lot. I think we mounted an inch or two off an air.

Speaker 3:

In my nonstick electric tape that keeps on falling down.

Speaker 4:

I was like no.

Speaker 3:

Getting it up there. No, it came out great Like you were putting it up there like a fat kid with a cupcake. You should have seen him. He's like. He's like looking around. I'm just trying to find some pieces here's the shelf. It was like six seconds. I'm like how'd you get fucking nail it together already? It was up here. He's got it like that, but and then he's been designing.

Speaker 3:

He's designed that for months and I'm sitting there like I had to sit here like this and Kevin's like here. Let me put it in. Let me put a pencil over my fat head. How many times do you touch your head? Did it bug you out? Several times he did twiddle my ear a little bit. He twiddled your ear, just did like one of those you know. Did you get? I don't know if you like this little chubby, I was full. You're full of rouse.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dude, look at me. It looks like he's been bit by a tick Little chubby.

Speaker 2:

What did you just?

Speaker 1:

say Fuck you, fuck you.

Speaker 2:

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.

Speaker 3:

It was a rare deer tick Okay, very rare.

Speaker 2:

Was it called chicken cordon source.

Speaker 3:

It was that that bug from from that movie with Will Farrell, the one that bit him on the back, the big mosquito with the fucking dinosaur Land of the land.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Land of the Law.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3:

That I had a huge mosquito bite on my back. That's a good movie.

Speaker 2:

Was. It was a mosquito bite, though.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you sure Totally. Maybe a leech, I don't know, it was one of the two, one of the fucking two Doesn't matter anymore. So I got to get to editing that quick and get that out to him so he can give to his people, or he could edit our edit and give it to all the CEOs and doctors that he knows. So I mean that's great, that's good stuff and I thought it went really well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was a, it was very.

Speaker 3:

We were flowing, like I can't remember the last time we did a show that long. I don't think we ever have.

Speaker 2:

Where are we at 245? Not since the days of so we're at like 140.

Speaker 3:

We're at 145. We're going to cut the first hour of our nonsense. Yeah, hey, I want to put that elevator music on. We'll go outside and smoke a cigarette. That was a great idea Kev.

Speaker 2:

I'm like Dawn. Look at the phone. Are they sitting at the table?

Speaker 3:

And I want to give a shout out to our fucking loyals. Ben Pika Drow is on.

Speaker 2:

I was wondering if you two were the other ones.

Speaker 3:

You guys are the loyalists, we are. But as long as we get that out, get the tags on it right and everything I think that one's going to that's going to be a fucking.

Speaker 2:

And it's a keeper. That's a cold one, that's a keeper, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's going to be a good one. So I'm getting a fear boner over it right now. I've got to blast that out everywhere. No, I'm going to blast it out, don't you worry. Dive all over the place. Glad I get to leave. You're going to get down on your knees. You're going to wait? No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Oh, my God, I swear to God, before you came, when this went fucking kaput.

Speaker 2:

I saw the screen go black and I was like, oh, he's going to stroke.

Speaker 1:

I was like, oh, but you can still hear it.

Speaker 2:

No, it totally went black Back for a second and I looked, and of course I looked on the comments.

Speaker 3:

And what was the best time for that to happen? Oh, 8, 58. Yes, awesome. I was like, and I'm just looking up, I'm like what did I do? What did I do to deserve that?

Speaker 2:

Nothing, I don't know. The list is long, but distinguished.

Speaker 3:

I'm still trying to think how many mirrors I broke in my life. It's got to be coming up there.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, Joe.

Speaker 3:

It's got to be fucking coming up there, but, moving forward, we're going to be getting guests. We probably we're going to start off like every other week and then, once we start flowing and we get a fucking secretary, I think we can do weekly. So if you guys know any new Mexicans out there looking for work, send them our way. No, new Mexicans, you don't remember what that episode when we were talking about? No, oh man, no, that was talking about New Mexico.

Speaker 1:

No, you just got canceled. Bro Says who, Kevin Says China.

Speaker 3:

Oh, china. Hello, this is China. Yeah, you guys are done. Thank you, I appreciate it. Awesome. Can you get your fingers off my head? China, thank you.

Speaker 2:

Better your head than your ass.

Speaker 1:

It's wrapped us up. It's going to see.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, can't thank you guys enough for joining us on episode 83. We're making a beautiful end view with Nuresh Vissa Trump book. It's out there. Go get it on Amazon Podcasts, amazons, search it NureshVissacom V-I-S-S-Acom. Nice, good job, and you guys can go see our stuff too if you want to. Hopefully you know where that is, because I'm not going to tell you what's our website again. Our website is wwwpodpagecom. It's wwwtidshowcom or wwwworkcom. Okay 8675309. That's Kevin's phone number.

Speaker 2:

We got to put his address out there. Secondly, Jenny's Question.

Speaker 3:

What? Hopefully that's the right button I'm supposed to be pressing. Jai Nai, I'm not a small. My name is Jai Nai.

Speaker 2:

And God bless. I love this. God bless you. I'm Aseana Amasi. On her baptism, oh yes.

Speaker 3:

Was that your family that you went to? Who Good, good, good phone? Ah, so he wasn't family. He should have been here. He is here. He got in. I felt like I was so proud of him, like first day of school, I didn't think he was coming. It was like his first day of school. So I'm all dressed up. I'm like, oh my God, he's here.

Speaker 2:

I was waiting for you to throw something at me. No, no, no, no. I was going to introduce you as our Resident. E-wog, I wonder how he would have reacted to that.

Speaker 3:

That's why I didn't do the giggity-giggity-hailing, you know, because I wanted to, so bad, so I did it afterwards. But thank you for joining us. That's happened. So at 83, the TID show until next week, or until China stops forcing my mouth down on him. Oh well, well, yeah. World War III, bro, what are we doing? Live, you heard it. You heard it, yeah. F-r-i-e-s-e-t-r-n-e-v-e. I saw chowds, you know, so it's not much. Anyways, like it wasn't the hangover, it's okay, it's forcing me down. M-e-e-e-e-s-e-t-r-n-e-v-e.

Interview With Nuresh Vissa, CEO
China's Influence on US Society
China's Influence on Environment and Entertainment
(Cont.) China's Influence on Environment and Entertainment
Politics' Impact on Business and Society
China's Growing Power and External Influence
China's Role in the Fentanyl Epidemic
Candidates, Indictments, and Election Strategies
Fighting Cancel Culture and the Elite
Podcasting and College Basketball Discussions
Show Reflections and Future Plans
Promoting Naresh Vissa's Trump Book and Miscellaneous Topics

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