Ep 192 - Balancing Motherhood and Business: Insights with Laura Sinclair

“The only way that you get better, the closer to where you want to go, is by making mistakes and messing it up.”

Discover how to turn your entrepreneurial dreams into reality with Laura Sinclair, a leading online marketing and business mentor who balances ambition and family life. Laura shares her journey from corporate marketing to running her own businesses, including the LJ Social Agency and the support community "This Mother Means Business."

When Laura’s CrossFit gym closed due to the pandemic, she pivoted to the online space, managing this transition with a newborn and a toddler at home. Her experience offers valuable lessons on handling unexpected challenges and finding new opportunities.

Laura shares practical strategies that helped her transform from an overwhelmed business owner to an empowered entrepreneur. Laura also provides actionable tips for business owners, including creating SOPs, using screen recordings, and embracing mistakes.

Laura also tackles topics of authenticity and failure in the online space. She parallels entrepreneurship and parenting, emphasizing that both involve trial and error. Her insights on effective delegation and overcoming ego barriers will inspire you to delegate more and do less, helping you achieve more with less effort.

Key Takeaways:

1. Time Management: Effective strategies to balance multiple responsibilities.
2. Delegation: The importance of delegating tasks to improve efficiency.
3. Networking: Building authentic connections to grow your business.
4. Learning from Failures: Embracing mistakes as part of the growth process.

Don’t miss this episode packed with wisdom, practical tips, and heartfelt stories.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

you know, I worked in corporate marketing for 10 years and so I was always a really looking back on it like I was a bad employee. You know, I think I think that people are either wired to be entrepreneurs or they're wired to work for somebody else, and I don't think that like one's not better than. But when I think about, you know, my time in corporate, I never really stayed at a job for more than three years. I always bounced around, I was always looking for the next thing. I asked a lot of questions, you know, like process for processing. I worked for a German automotive company for a while and I was like, why are we doing so much process? I don't like it. I worked at marketing agencies that were really nimble and that I really loved, but for me, like I, I choose entrepreneurship.

Speaker 2: 0:44

Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to Master Delegator Podcast, the podcast that unveils the secrets of effective delegation and productivity for business growth. My name is Christy Yoder, CEO of Smart VAs and Meet 5 Star VAs, and your podcast host. Can I tell you a secret? I am obsessed with teamwork and delegation. I consider myself a lazy entrepreneur, not because I don't like working, but because I always find ways to do things in the most effective and easiest way. I was born and raised in Manila, Philippines, moved to the States and grew my agency from one person to more than 70 plus team members. As of this recording, I was able to grow my business 10 times more after I hired my first virtual assistant within three months. Together with my team, we have helped more than 300 stressed and overwhelmed business owners scale their businesses by delegating to virtual assistants. Owners scale their businesses by delegating to virtual assistants, and that's why my goal in this podcast show is to help you grow your business by giving you fresh perspectives on delegation, outsourcing, hiring virtual assistants and up-to-date proven business strategies, and teaching you how to scale your business while living a freedom-filled lifestyle. Whether you're a business leader, entrepreneur or someone striving for peak efficiency, this podcast is your go-to resource. We bring you insights from industry experts, successful entrepreneurs and thought leaders who have mastered the skill of delegation. If you are ready to elevate your productivity and achieve more by doing less, you're in the right place. Subscribe to Master Delegator on your favorite podcast platform and join our community of proactive delegators. Now let's get started on the path to becoming a true master of delegation. Welcome everyone.

Speaker 2: 2:47

Today we have a very special guest who's here to share her wealth of knowledge and experience in the world of online marketing and business mentorship. Our guest today is none other than the incredible Laura Sinclair, joining us all the way from Toronto, Canada. Laura is an online marketing and business mentor who focuses on helping early-stage female founders get their businesses seen and thrive. With a rich background in public relations and social media, Laura found her calling in the online space at the beginning of 2021. Since then, she has been on an exhilarating journey, founding the LJ Social Agency, which specializes in social media marketing. Laura is also the voice behind the empowering podcast.

Speaker 2: 3:40

This Mother Means Business and leads a thriving community under the same name, dedicated to entrepreneurial mothers. Through one-on-one mentorship and masterminds, she has been instrumental in guiding countless female business owners to success. Laura will share her insights about the ego in delegation, the importance of asking for help and what it takes to show up authentically in the online space. Whether you are an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned business owner, Laura has some golden nuggets that will undoubtedly resonate with you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the conversation. Here's Laura Sinclair. Hello, Laura, Welcome to the Master Delegator podcast. I'm so excited to have you as a guest on Master Delegator because you have some great insights about you know running a business and also marketing strategies that you'd love to share to to our audience. So, before we dig deeper, please introduce yourself hi, chrissy.

Speaker 1: 4:53

Thank you so much for having me on the show. I'm so excited to be here. I always love an opportunity to chat with new people and new audiences. I'm so grateful for this and I cannot wait to pour in. But for those that are meeting me for the first time you you're like who's? Laura Sinclair. I am based out of Toronto, Canada. I am a online marketing and business mentor. I mentor early stage female founders, help them get their businesses seen.

Speaker 1: 5:16

I have a background in public relations and social media, and so found myself in the online space after a somewhat what feels like a lot a bit of a roller coaster up and down in my life and career and did a lot of really cool things Found myself in the online space at the beginning of 2021 and started my business helping people with social media marketing and then, over the years now I'm in a place where I own a social media marketing agency called the LJ Social Agency. I have a podcast called this Mother Means Business. I also have a community called this Mother Means Business for entrepreneurial mothers, and I do mentorship and consulting in a one-on-one way or through my mastermind. So I have a lot of different things that I have going on, but really what I'm about is helping female business owners get their businesses in front of new audiences.

Speaker 2: 6:05

Wow, that is awesome. So you run three businesses right and you are a mom, and that's not easy. I don't have kids yet. I have a dog, so I think he's considered our child and I delegate. You know, I have team members who does marketing and pretty much anything that I don't want to do, you know, and I'm not good at, so I delegate those things to them. But this morning I was checking my calendar and I noticed that I have been doing a lot of meetings. I've been doing a lot of one-on-one networking with people that I got connected with on Instagram threads. You know we met on threads and I have people that I got connected with from LinkedIn as well, and I was like talking to myself.

Speaker 2: 7:02

I do self-talk a lot and I was like talking to myself. I do self-talk a lot and I was like talking to myself. I was like Christy, you are already delegating, but yet your calendar is like 60 to 70% full. How much more if you are not delegating? And I'm saying that because you know I don't have kids yet how much more if I have kids already? Like I wonder how my calendar is going to look like. So you have three businesses and I don't know how many kids you have. But even if you only have one kid, you know I feel like that's enough to be busy. So you have two. So how do you manage your schedule?

Speaker 1: 7:36

yeah, it's a lot, and you know what I love that you, I love what you said about you know, you're? You feel like you're delegating already and um, but then it's like, oh, you know, my calendar is already 60 or 70, 70,. You feel like you're delegating already and um, but then it's like, oh, you know, my calendar is already 60 or 70, 70% full. I feel like it's really a flux, and I'm going to tell you a story in a second about something that I had to realize recently. But for me, a lot of it is just like accepting that there's a lot.

Speaker 1: 7:57

I think there's a lot of ego in delegation, to be honest. Right, where we as a business, business owner, hold on to way too much. Right, we're like well, I'm the, I'm the owner, I started this thing, I'm the best at it and nobody's better than me, and so we hold on to it Right, like there's this need that we like want to be wanted, we need to be the needed person, especially as female entrepreneurs, I think. And so for me, it's like just letting go of some of that ego stuff which I've had to do in my agency over the years where it's been like wow, I really do this thing, but I got to let it go to this person and then I try it and they're way better at it than I am. So I've had that happen to me a few times, but really a lot of. It is like accepting where you are most needed, and for me I can delegate everything but being my children's mother.

Speaker 1: 8:46

And so, like, when I look at the grand scheme of like what it is that I have to do, what it is that I'm doing, that is always going to be the most important task, if we want to call it that, and so really just accepting like, okay, what is a actual CEO task here and what is the task that I should be giving to somebody else and really having that like good, hard look through it.

Speaker 1: 9:09

And the story I want to share with you is I was a person that if you had asked me in like February of this year, if I was crushing delegation, I'd have been like, yep, I've got it. And I'm not just talking about business, like business and life right, like there are things that we need to delegate. You know, not just talking about business, like business and life right, like there are things that we need to delegate. You know, I have someone that cleans my home, I have a child in who's in school and I have one that's in daycare, so there's elements of childcare that I've outsourced in my life. But in March I broke my leg and so I'm you know, as we're recording this about 12 weeks out from breaking my leg.

Speaker 2: 9:41

It's hard to hear that.

Speaker 1: 9:43

No, I'm fine, but the story is is that you know there's a point to this be sharing this is that I couldn't drive. I lost the ability to drive. I have two small children, a shift working husband and three businesses, and so I found myself in this situation where it was like oh, actually, laura, you thought you were delegating enough, you thought you were asking for help and you really weren't, and you weren't to the full capacity of your ability to ask for help because people started stepping up right. This happened to me hey, can I drive your daughter to school? Hey, can I make food for you? Hey, can I help you in this way?

Speaker 1: 10:17

And so for me, it's really opened my eyes, even recently, to look at okay, where am I still holding onto things? And this is an invitation for anyone that's listening like, really, get real with yourself. It's like what if you were to break your leg which I hope you don't do, I don't wish it on anyone but like if you were to be actually incapacitated for a little while, like, could you? Are there people in your life that you can delegate things to, and if you can, I would encourage you to do that so the universe doesn't break your leg that you have to figure it out.

Speaker 2: 10:46

Right, wow, that is so good. And I think for most entrepreneurs they don't realize that delegation also applies to their personal life, you know, because I'm like that too. You know, before I was like, no, do everything, everything. But then I don't like mowing, yeah, you know. So I asked my husband to do that and he's doing that every day. I don't like taking care of trash every week, so he's doing that. Yeah, I don't like. I don't like vacuuming, so I got a robot vacuum. And we have a dog. He's a golden retriever, so he sheds a lot, yeah, I bet. And weeds are growing everywhere outside our house. So I was thinking of doing the mulch and pulling out weeds, but it's hot outside and I was like I just don't want to do it. You know, and just today, 30 minutes before we do this interview, I was talking to somebody who's gonna do our yards. I was like I'm glad there are people out there who can help. You know, um, and I'm discarding my groceries.

Speaker 1: 11:50

My groceries are on their way to our house right now, as we have this conversation I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2: 11:57

And then, starting last year too, because I love to cook, but not when I'm busy with, you know, my business, you know, because we only have. So I take a break between 12 to 1 and I don't want to cook between 12 to 1, you know. I just want to eat and relax, you know, free up my brain. And so I came across um, this company online and this is not sponsored, it is, you know, by this company. It's you have probably seen their ads on Facebook or Instagram. It's called Factor, so we order from them every week. So they send meals to us. All we do is put them in the fridge and then, when we're ready to eat, pop them in the microwave for two minutes and then that's it. We eat, and then stress-free, right.

Speaker 2: 12:43

So there are a lot of things we can do as a business owner to free up our time, and I feel like, for the most part, it's not even the time.

Speaker 2: 12:52

That's the problem, because we only have 24 hours a day and we should already accept that. I think what we need to free up mostly is our brain space, because if your brain is cluttered with stress and unnecessary things that you're doing or that you're thinking about, you won't be able to function as a business owner. Hey, are you sick and tired of being overwhelmed because you are doing everything alone in your business and can't scale because you don't have a team supporting you? Well, you don't have to worry anymore, because Smart VAs can provide you with a team of experienced virtual assistants that can do different tasks to support your growth From admin to bookkeeping to social media, video and podcast editing to website graphics, seo and customer service. Smart VA's team can help you grow your business without any worries or stress from all the tasks weighing down on you. If you are a busy entrepreneur who needs help with your day-to-day tasks so you can focus on growing your business, then you have to visit smartvirtualassistancecom. So, when you started your business, did you have kids yet, or not yet?

Speaker 1: 14:21

So, if we back up a little bit, my I became an entrepreneur in 2015, so I've been for almost 10 years and my first business was actually a gym, and so I ran a brick-and-mortar CrossFit gym here in Ontario, canada you know what I can actually see that?

Speaker 2: 14:39

Do you have that gym type of you know countenance in you?

Speaker 1: 14:45

So we we had that, and so I owned the gym before I had children, and then my daughter was born when I owned the gym during that season, and then my son was born in 2020. So I have a pandemic baby and we own the gym at the time and ended up closing the gym at the end of 2020. So I have a pandemic baby and we own the gym at the time and ended up closing the gym at the end of 2020. So when the world shut down for two weeks out of an abundance of caution, I was eight weeks pregnant and we decided at the end of 2020 to close the gym. We sold off all of our equipment and then I ended up in the online space just shortly after. So December 2020 is when the gym closed and then February of 2021 is when I first kind of started showing up. So at that point, I had a three month old baby and a three and a half year old daughter.

Speaker 2: 15:32

Wow, kudos to you. And now you are. You know you're, now you are passionate about helping you know other moms out there be successful in terms of growing their business through social media marketing. So what made you decide to have a business instead of, you know, working for somebody else?

Speaker 1: 15:56

Yeah, so I have a. I have a. You know, I worked in corporate marketing for 10 years and so I was always a really looking back at it, back on it like I was a bad employee. You know, I worked in corporate marketing for 10 years and so I was always a really looking back on it like I was a bad employee. You know, I think that people are either wired to be entrepreneurs or they're wired to work for somebody else, and I don't think that like one's not better than the other. But when I think about, you know, my time in corporate, I never really stayed at a job for more than three years. I always bounced around, I was always looking for the next thing. I asked a lot of questions, you know, like process for processing. I worked for a German automotive company for a while and I was like, why are we doing so much process? I don't like it. I worked at marketing agencies that were really nimble and that I really loved.

Speaker 1: 16:38

But for me, like I, I choose entrepreneurship and there've been lots of times where I could have chose something else. Or, you know, certainly when I left my corporate job, I knew that going back to corporate was always an option for me. I mean, I have a marketing background. I have an extensive background, worked on a lot of cool things. I'm still very well connected in the marketing space here in Canada and so that would always be an option for me.

Speaker 1: 16:58

Um, but I choose entrepreneurship because of freedom, and you talked about this earlier as brain space, and when I talk about freedom, I'm not just talking about time freedom, which is what people are, location freedom, which people.

Speaker 1: 17:12

For me, it's freedom of my mind. It's freedom for me to like create what I want to create, to think what I want to think, to try things on in a way that is going to allow me to learn and grow and teach other people about it, rather than, you know, filling out the form and doing the box and then pushing the paper the way that it was supposed to be done. Because even as a corporate marketer you know I worked for my last job in corporate marketing was for a German automotive company, luxury automotive company, and you're still getting like the marketing materials coming over from Germany and then you're like adapting it for Canada and it's like you're not really getting to play in the same way that you get to play as an entrepreneur. And so entrepreneurship gives me the ability to just create and dream and, you know, live in my own head with my own thoughts and my own ideas, and rather than rather than doing it for somebody else.

Speaker 2: 18:02

Yeah, that's awesome. And tell me about a challenge in your business. That was very difficult for you and how did you overcome that?

Speaker 1: 18:14

Oh gosh, there's been so many, so many, and I think that if you're a business owner and you don't have challenges, then you're probably not trying anything new, and so I would challenge you to move that I think you know. For me, one of the biggest challenges has always been you know, how do I show up in a way that's authentic for me, right?

Speaker 1: 18:33

I think, um, and the online space is a little bit performative. Well, it's a lot performative, right, and so people talk about you need to be authentic. What does that mean? Um and so for me, it's like you know, how do I show up in a way that feels really good for me and for anybody that's listening? I would challenge you to you know, think about that for yourself too. It's like that is going to be.

Speaker 1: 18:56

The challenge always is can you be fully yourself and can you allow yourself to be super vulnerable in doing that? Like, I don't think people talk enough about how vulnerable it is to show up online and and sell your things and and share your thoughts and your beliefs and um, so for me, that's always a big challenge. But I think you know you want a specific challenge. I think like failure, right, it's like it's all. We all have failure and I would say the biggest challenge in entrepreneurship across the board for anybody is going to be how do you adapt from failure. Do you let it knock you out completely or do you let it course correct you into you know, a little bit, getting a little closer where you want to be.

Speaker 2: 19:38

Yeah, that's so true. And I love when you said about you know how do you show up authentically? And even if you show up authentically, is that even authentic? You know, are you like showing up authentically just because you want to be authentic? But if you want to be, if you want to force yourself to be authentic, then that's not authentic. So we all have our own definition of being authentic and, of course, failure. That's the hardest thing of being an entrepreneur. Right, you test things and if it doesn't work out, then you know it's normal to feel bad, you know, but just always, you know, think that you know who's that guy who invented the light bulb. I don't know his name, but he said something like this like you did not fail 1000 times, whatever, you just found a way when you just found 1000 ways that you know that didn't work, something like that don't call me on that, but that's the same thought.

Speaker 1: 20:43

Yeah, I mean, entrepreneurship is a series of failures as a motherhood, which is like, yeah, that I always try to talk to moms about right. It's like with your kid and you're trying to like learn how to be a quote-unquote good mom, or like you're getting it wrong until you get it right right, exactly, oh like you're constantly getting things wrong.

Speaker 1: 20:58

that's the only way to get it right. Like nobody starts a business and it's just like well, nailing it. This is so easy. I'm doing everything right. I haven't made a single mistake, Like no. The only way that you learn, the only way that you get better, the closer to where you want to go, is by making mistakes and messing it up. And so if you can learn that and be okay with the fact that messing it up is just part of the process and that's okay, that and be okay with the fact that messing it up is just part of the process and that's okay.

Speaker 2: 21:28

Yeah, that is so true. Yeah, even with you know, with parenting right again, I'm not a parent yet, but I'm. I have. I have a lot of um parent friends, so I learned from them. And there's this one friend that told me you know what, when I had my first baby, I wanted to have my second child already because I kind of want to correct the mistakes I made on my first baby. But then the second one came in. I still make a lot of mistakes, so she's like you know, I was wrong to think that my first baby and my second baby are going to be totally the same, but they have different personalities. And so she said my approach with the first baby, I thought it's going to work. With the first baby, I thought it's gonna work with the second baby but it's not.

Speaker 1: 22:05

Yes, yeah, I, um, my first baby was a great eater. She slept really well. I didn't really have a. I mean she was a menace in other ways, but she did some things. That was like she was a great sleeper. She ate really well. She wasn't up early and I was a. I had such an ego about it. Like I was so like hmm, how hard. Like why is it so hard to get your picky eater to eat? Like just that's all you give them, don't make them seven other meals. And then you know, same thing. It's like, oh well, if your kid's up at five, just put them back to sleep. Like what do you mean it? And then my son comes along and he's the worst eater. He loves 5 am and it's like OK, thank you universe for giving me that ego check where it's like I thought that I had it all figured out and I did not.

Speaker 2: 22:49

Yeah, I mean. No, there is no way we can figure out everything in this world, you know. Yeah, hey, are you looking for a community to learn how you can be effective in delegation, so you can focus on the things that matter the most in your business and grow to 6-7 figures? If this is you, then today is your lucky day. Join our Facebook group today to get your questions answered on delegation, outsourcing, business growth, hiring members, members and many more. We offer so much value in the group, so join our growing community by going to facebookcom. Slash groups. Slash master delegator. See you there. So tell me about um, your opinion or your experience when it comes to delegating effectively. And how do you think an entrepreneur can have freedom and flexibility in their business?

Speaker 1: 23:53

Yeah, I love that you asked this. So there's a couple of things. I work with a lot of solopreneurs. I work with a lot of people that have built their business.

Speaker 1: 23:59

A lot of people come to me having built their business entirely by themselves and they're feeling like you were talking about at the beginning, like oh my gosh, my calendar is so full I can't possibly take on more. I want to scale, I want to make more money, but I, like I am stuck and usually we're having that first conversation around okay, we need to delegate, we need to hire some help for you, we need to, you know, find somebody to take this off your plate. And so usually for me, like the, I like to look at off your plate. And so usually for me, like the, I like to look at really building out a whole list of tasks, right, like what is it that you're actually doing in your day? And then assigning dollar amounts to those tasks, right, like, what do you want to make as a business owner? Let's say it's $100 an hour or $700, whatever it is. I'm willing to bet that there's a lot of things on your list that are probably $20 an hour tasks or $15 an hour tasks. They're not $200 an hour tasks.

Speaker 1: 24:49

And so it starts with looking at, okay, what are the tasks that are lower cost tasks, that are easier for me to delegate, right, and what are the things that you know aren't necessarily mission critical, that are not CEO tasks either? And so for me, and my own experience with delegation has been a like looking at that B, getting over my ego, which is, I mentioned earlier, right, that like, well, I'm the best at it. No, you're not. There's other people that are way better at it than you. Just find them and let them. And then the third part is, you know, really being able to empower the people that you're delegating to, and not, you can't expect people to read your mind, but how can you empower them to delegate, like in the task that they're doing, and letting them have some autonomy around it. I think those have been three really big ones for me.

Speaker 2: 25:37

That is so good. I love when you said when you said that you know, don't expect your team members to read your minds, oh, cause you know, even us, we don't know our own thoughts, right? How do you expect somebody to read your mind?

Speaker 1: 25:52

Yeah, delegating at first can be, can feel like work. You know people will say you know, like I hired this VA or this OBM and I'm they're not. They're not like I don't know what, I don't know what to give them. It's like well, have you talked to them Like, have you like, are you just assuming that they're going to just like, read your mind, like no, as a, as a CEO, as a founder, it is your job to equip them with what it is that they need. And it can feel like work at first, right, because you're having to create the SOPs.

Speaker 1: 26:18

Or you know, one of the things, if I'm handing off a task, is to just record a loom video of myself actually doing the task and speaking over it. Like you know, here's where I'm clicking, here's how I'm making this happen and creating a library of videos for my team so that it's like when, hey, when Laura is asking me to do X, y, z thing, it's right here in the video and then they can. You know, if they want to make notes from it, they can do that, however they want to learn. But I think people don't realize sometimes that delegating at first still requires a fair amount of work and it's easy to get caught in that trap. It's like, oh, I'm just going to do it myself because it's faster. Maybe in the short term, but in the long term it's not.

Speaker 2: 26:57

Right, yeah, and you know recording yourself how you do things using Loom, to record your screen so you can walk through a VA to create a process for the VA. Even the idea of that for some people it feels very overwhelming already. But sometimes when I was beginning to delegate I felt like that. But then I realized, when I started um recording using loom, I realized that you know, it only took me 10 minutes to do it.

Speaker 1: 27:30

Yeah, and then I was anyway, like record it while you're gonna go do the task. So you're right.

Speaker 2: 27:36

Two birds, one stone sort of situation exactly and then it only took, took me 10 minutes, but it took me about two days to complain. Worry about doing the Loom video I had anxiety about, you know, was very anxious about doing it, you know. But I think you just have to get over it. You know, and do it, because after you record yourself working or walking through the VA, you know you are relieved of doing that task sort of forever. You know, because you've delegated it. Yeah, I love it. So I know we can talk. You know all day about delegation and I love talking to you, but as we wrap up, where can people find you and would you mind, um, or, if you want, you can share some promotions that you have?

Speaker 1: 28:29

yeah, so the easiest place to find me is on instagram or threads, because I love threads and I'm so glad that you I love threads, I love threads.

Speaker 1: 28:36

Favorite is my favorite place to play because I I posted a thread, actually I don't know what. Like, I was an ex twitter, so it's like I posted a thread. I threaded a thread I don't know what. Like, I was an ex-Twitter user, so it's like I posted a thread. I threaded a thread. I don't know what the lingo is exactly, but I love so much about it that I can just like think something and then post it. I don't have to make a graphic or a video or anything. It's just very it works really well for my train of thought. But I'm on meta platforms at it's Laura Sinclair, so if you've made it this, feel free to send me a thread or a DM or follow me. Follow along, um.

Speaker 1: 29:05

I share all kinds of information around building your business, being seen, marketing, visibility and motherhood. We have a lot of conversations about motherhood over in my world, um, and if you want to learn more about my community, so if you are a mom entrepreneur who's looking to connect with other mom entrepreneurs, you should absolutely check out my podcast this mother means business, which you can listen to anywhere that you listen to podcasts, and I also have a community called this Mother Means Business, and we have a monthly mastermind call. There are networking calls twice a month and I bring in some really incredible guests to help you build your business and be supported as a mom. Building business Cause it's just not the same with love, right. Building business when you have the responsibilities of also having children is totally different. It's a whole other game than somebody that doesn't have that, even though I'm sure your baby is amazing.

Speaker 1: 29:52

I have yeah also, but I've done it both ways and so I can definitely different, yeah, different. So this mother means businesscom is the place where you can find out all things podcast, all things community, and you can also join one of our networking calls. So if you want to come and just get a sense of the vibe, if you head to thismothermeansbusinesscom, you can join our networking calls. I'd love to see you there.

Speaker 2: 30:13

Wow, I love it. Well, it's a pleasure talking to you today, Laura.

Speaker 2: 30:18

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