#056 Romans 6 Bible Study - Fortifying the Christian Families Embracing Roles, Faith, and Masculinity - Nico Lagan

Embark on a soul-strengthening journey with us as we tackle the essence of Christian life across the five pillars: faith, family, fitness, fundamentals, and finances. Our special guest Nico joins the conversation, delving into the heart of Romans 6 and the teachings of Paul on how to navigate grace and sin with integrity. In a world where masculinity and fatherhood are often questioned, we confront societal concerns head-on, offering a candid discussion on the roles men and women play in shaping our future, the urgent need for mentorship, and the celebration of traditional virtues that create a balanced, harmonious dynamic between the sexes.

As we unpack the complexities of modern male identity, we share personal anecdotes and the transformative power of authentic faith practiced both in public and within the home. The episode is more than just a spiritual guide; it's a clarion call to reclaim the strength of male leadership and embrace the beauty of femininity. Nico, with insights from his upcoming book, underscores the importance of talents used for divine purpose, and together, we inspire listeners to lead lives of stronger character, rooted in the wisdom of scripture and the power of personal transformation.

In our final reflections, we discuss the exceptional cases of female leadership in the Bible and how they emerged from a lack of worthy men, not as the norm, yet still celebrate the vital contributions of women in nurturing and teaching boys to become men of honor. We wrap up our dialogue with an invitation to follow Nico's continued journey and the anticipation of his forthcoming book. This episode is a heartfelt prayer and an advocate for a life led by faith, courage, and unity as we engage with challenges and joys alike, on the path of righteousness.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Christian Warrior Mission Podcast
• 8:51 Using Members for Righteousness
• 17:00 Absent Fathers' Impact on Society
• 25:12 Embracing Masculinity and Femininity
• 36:21 The Role of Men in Society
• 42:34 Women's Role in Raising Boys
• 51:12 The Importance of Masculinity and Faith
• 57:37 Gender Roles in Christianity
• 1:09:04 Book Release and Social Media Presence

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:39

Hello everyone and welcome to Christian Warrior Mission, the Christian Fellowship podcast, that we fight three battles every day. We get a humble and grateful heart aligned onto the Lord. We press, deliberately, pursue a relationship with our Creator through prayer and studying of his word. Then three we spend time in the body, in fellowship, with ironing, sharpening with iron, sharpen iron, and corporate prayer. This is also home to the Crucible 90 Day Challenge, the 90 Day Crucible Challenge, I should say, and that is where we submit our lives for 90 days to the five pillars, all aspects of our life to God faith, family, fitness, fundamentals and finances. Right, that is pretty much your whole being right, and this is not a, you know, a short term thing. This is an on ramp where, basically, you stop doing you and you start doing God right, and so I haven't sitting over here and I'm we're supposed to be streaming. I was all fired up. I thought we're gonna be streaming, streaming on, streaming on Instagram tonight, but for some reason the RTMP codes and all that stuff didn't work. So it didn't work this time, so I'll figure it out for next time. But anyways, I'm excited tonight because tonight we're going back to some of our original roots and we're having a guest on tonight, and we'll talk about that. After we fight two of our three battles, we're bringing him in for the, you know, battle number three. So first let's get a humble heart lined onto the Lord and then we'll fight our second battle. So, battle number one, let's go. Damnly. Father Lord, we come to you now Grateful. Grateful for all the blessings we have, all the ones we know about and the ones we know know about. But we know that the body itself is made up of trillions of cells and most, if not all, of them had to work perfectly for us even to be here right now. We're so thankful that you gave us another day to get it right to die to self and to become more like you. But we thank you for all the common graces that you give us Sunrise, sunset, the sound of children's laughter, the touch of a loved one, the smell of the ocean. We thank you for every full breath we take, every beat of our heart. May we proclaim you with every breath. May we serve you with every beat of our heart. Well, we pray that this podcast and this show glorifies you and only you, that everything we do here would please you. We ask you to bless this time and to draw us closer to you. In Jesus name, we pray Amen. Alright, that's battle number one.

Speaker 1: 3:56

Now we are in Romans, which is what many consider myself included to be the most important book practically, or in the Bible, and we're coming up to Romans eight rapidly, which is the most important chapter in the Bible. This chapter six is basically a chapter where Paul handles the carnal Christian thing. But why, if God forgives all sin, well, why not just send a whole bunch and then repent at the end? Right, that's basically what the end, what he's answering here. Chapter six because even 2000 years ago, like atheists love to hit us with this, all you Christians are all sinners. Why don't I'm just going to be an atheist right up until my death bed and then I'm going to confess right at the end, become a Christian, and then I got to live a really good life. We all know that that isn't legitimate faith and that isn't a belief and that doesn't work. But that's what Paul is handling here. Even in the early days of the church there were those. So I'm going to go out, we're going to be in Romans six and, starting at verse one, what shall we say then? Are we to continue and send that grace may abound.

Speaker 1: 5:15

By no means. Alright, now this. This term by no means is literally the most strongest phraseology all could use to say. It's like it's the strongest no you can give in the Greek language. Okay, so this under mean, it's not just by no means, it's by no means exclamation point, and that is what. If you wanted to be vulgar, you would be a.

Speaker 1: 5:41

You can imagine what someone might have said by no means. How can we who died to sins to live in it? Right, this is true regeneration we're talking about here, meaning that once you realize what your sin did to Christ on the cross, right, once you realize that your sin was the hammer on the nails in his hands and feet, that your sin more importantly, most people don't talk about this part that your sin was the wrath that God poured out on his son to pay for all sin for all time. So guess what your sin is included in that? Alright, and that is something that no, like other people have been crucified. Yes, it's horrible, but no one paid the price to God for all sin and bore God's wrath for all sin other than Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1: 6:36

Did you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ. Jesus were baptized in his death. When you get baptized, that's what's happening. When you go under the water, it's not getting clean. Yeah, it's the clean thing Water wash. You are dying, you're being buried in the water and then you are rising up alive again. Alright, so you die, you are a new person. The old you is dead and the new creation comes forward.

Speaker 1: 7:02

If you believe in Jesus Christ, if you have faith, salvation is through faith alone. We were buried there, for with him, by baptism into death and order, that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him In order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again. Death no longer has dominion over him, for the death he died. He died to sin once and for all, but the life he lives, he lives to God. So you must also consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God and Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1: 8:21

I'm going to finish the next paragraph and we're going to talk about that. Let not sin. Therefore, reign in your mortal body to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments from righteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought I'm sorry, brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. And that's what I'm going to talk about. Percent will have no dominion over you, since you are not under the law but under grace.

Speaker 1: 8:51

So what he's talking about here is using your members, which is whatever parts of your body, or righteousness. So your mouth, right. We know that your mouth is capable of speaking death or life. Are you speaking life into people, right? Are you literally speaking life in Christ into people, or are you tearing them down and dragging them down to you? Both Right. And we've gone over Psalms in the past where literally every line was like murder, was just one line or two lines, and there was like five or seven. That was just the, just the threat and the danger of your. Your words in your mouth. So using that, using your, let's say you're a warrior. Using your warrior to protect the innocence instead of being a thug and victimizing the week Right, this is what Paul's talking about using your members for righteousness and not for sin.

Speaker 2: 9:56

So let's pick it up in verse 15.

Speaker 1: 9:58

Now, what then? Are we to sin Because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means. That's the same thing, by no means is the strongest, no way that he can possibly say. What then? Are we to sin Because we no longer under the law but under grace? By no means. No, you are absolutely not to just keep sinning, you are to fight it with everything you have. I'll finish this paragraph and we'll go back to that.

Speaker 1: 10:29

Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as an obedient slave, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either to sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? A thanks be to God that you, who are once slaves of sin, have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you are committed and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms because of your natural limitations, but just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and the lawlessness and leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, leading this sanctification. So what we're talking about here again, as Christians, are we going to continue to sin? Absolutely, but it shouldn't be purposeful sin, right? So what do I mean by that? There's a difference between stepping in dog do-do right, which is sin, all right you accidentally stepping into it or doing it isolated in that, versus your old self, which was you would literally train in a triathlon of dog do-do and for a race, an ultramarathon. You know Iron man within dog do-do, if you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Right, everything about your life was on righteousness. Your mouth was cuss words constantly. All you did was look at porn. All you were slaves to everything that was apart from God. Now, when you sin and you will sin do you repent for it? Does that hurt? Like, do you bring? Are you like man? I fell off the wagon again or I looked at porn again. I am. I can't believe I did that to God. That's proof that you are a Christian, that you feel that way. The old you would be like oh yeah, let's get a couple more magazines and let's set a record on how many times I can masturbate today.

Speaker 1: 12:37

Right Again, this is the difference between the old you and the new you, for when you were slaves to sin, you were free in regards to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed and the fact that you're ashamed of them. That's the thing that really pisses me off about some people's testimony. When they tell their testimony and they're actually reliving it and celebrating it instead of being embarrassed that they actually did it, that somebody you can tell is a new Christian who hasn't yet come under conviction of the Holy Spirit or the turd that they were right Because we were all traitors.

Speaker 1: 13:24

What's the worst thing that you can possibly be? A traitor, a traitor to your friend. Stab your friend in the back, stab your wife in the back. Disloyalty we all crave loyalty. Christ was loyal to us when we were all judices. Right. That is the reality of the whole thing, for the end of those things is death. But now that you've been set free from sin and become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and it's end is the turn of life. End is the gradual process of becoming less you and more Christ. That you dying the old self and becoming more like Christ. That's the term sanctification.

Speaker 1: 14:09

So when I first got saved, the first thing God actually did miraculous for me which I wasn't too happy about at the time is I couldn't listen to my old heavy metal music that I used to listen to when I wanted to bench 500 pounds or squat or deadlift or things that I used to PR on. I used to put on the most angry, vile stuff. I went in the gym after being saved for the first time and I put on my favorite track, which at the time was awful God hates us all by slayer. That was my jam, and now here I am a Christian. I put that on and it just completely horrifies me, right. So I spent 15 minutes skipping through my playlist trying to find a song that wasn't against God, and I couldn't find one, so finally I just threw my freaking phone away and I'm like all right fine.

Speaker 1: 14:54

I got to do this another way. My workout completely sucked. That's another story, but that's what we're talking about here. Sanctification he took it from me. Now other things like anger. I've been battling my whole life and I will always battle for. The wage of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Speaker 1: 15:18

So, again, like I said, romans is hard and heavy. You know, we were in acts, and acts is more of a story of what's going on, right as the previous chapter telling you who did what, what was where, kind of setting the scene. And the next thing you know, you jump into Romans and Paul, who's the only theologian out of all the apostles, right, the only one who actually knows what's going on behind the curtain. You can describe all this. The rest of these dudes are just fishermen and Paul is laying it all out for them and um, and thank God, he did. You know. So, anyways, that's our second battle.

Speaker 1: 15:53

Okay, so we're literally pursued, chewed on every word of God. We didn't speed read it Again. Some people are just like, oh, I've read the Bible 400 times and you can ask them what they just read that day and they don't remember a darn thing where they read because they just ghosted off through it, right? No, you're meant to chew on it, like the cows out there, the cows that I have in my backyard. They eat something and then they actually regurgitated and chew on it and chew on it, and chew on it, chew on it. That's what we're meant to do with the word. See, when the Holy Spirit convicts us and be like this one.

Speaker 1: 16:26

Right, here is what you're going through right now. You know, and we all know, what happens when you stumble across one of those verses. They're crushing because it convicts you, right? So we're going to take a quick 45 second break. We're going to be back with our guest. All right, we're back with our first guest in the Christian warrior talk mission season. I guess there would be three now and I want to welcome to the show Nico, nico Lagan. I said that, right, right. I've been sitting there saying in my head did I say it right? No? Login no.

Speaker 2: 16:59

Yeah, there you go. All good, though my feelings are not too hurt. It's going to be, we're going to be okay.

Speaker 1: 17:06

Okay, I'm sorry, man, I've got too many blows in the head. My short term memory is awful. You should see me when I'm reading through the Bibles and I'll get to like these old cities names or these crazy names and I will literally listen to people pronounce them all for like a half hour before and I'll get on there and I'll still whip on them. So you know, but my heart's there, nico.

Speaker 2: 17:25

No worries, man, I haven't had in 72 podcasts, I think. Over the past three months I have not had one person say it right, so it's okay.

Speaker 1: 17:35

I wanted to crush it, though. I wanted to crush it for you.

Speaker 2: 17:38

All good man I get. I get called so much worse on a daily base, so it's all good. It could be a lot worse, no worries, man.

Speaker 1: 17:49

So tell us, tell our listeners, who you are and what you do, and then we'll talk about what I wanted to talk to you about today.

Speaker 2: 17:56

I think the best way to describe me would be a God fearing man that is an eternal student.

Speaker 1: 18:05

Well, that's a great thing to be right.

Speaker 2: 18:07

I think that's the only. Well, what's the point if you're not learning?

Speaker 1: 18:10

Right. In fact, you know, recently, you know I've been going on some pretty much tirades. You know you and I were blessed with the greatest nation that ever existed. Right, here we are and we lost it on our watch. Why did we lose it on our watch? Because men were too distracted watching football and movies and doing their hobbies and everything else. They literally were asleep at the walls right While the enemy came in and changed everything and it's all our fault. And the fact that we still have people on Sunday, the Lord's Day, going and watching, you know, 16 hours of football on Sunday and they think that they're Christian and I, just just drives me insane. But anyways, we won't get into that today.

Speaker 2: 18:53

But you know, it gets worse. It's not only that we let it happen because we're distracted. I think a lot of us let it happen because we didn't want to deal with it, because we thought I would say even more than that. I think we saw, we saw them as children that would eventually get out of it. And then we're like we're too busy, we have too much on our plates already. We're just that's going to fix itself eventually. So it was more than just distracted. I think it was really ignorance or there has to be a better word than ignorance. Maybe we were gullible.

Speaker 1: 19:27

Well, I think some were gullible and I think others are just selfish, right, you know, and this typically happens in the topic, the topic of reason why I brought Nico on is Nico Disciples Men with his own program and you know we, you know there are so many boys being raised by women and I know that you're actually working on a book right now to help women overcome that challenge of raising boys, you know, and highlighting why they need to have men, why they need to have a mentor, a father figure in their life, because what has been lost is actually because so many men. Now, right, it's like where the generation, where it broke down, right, like our generation. I'm 51. I don't know how, you're probably like 35. I'm joking, but 62. Okay, I'm 41.

Speaker 1: 20:34

Okay, so you know, our generation in around us is the one that latchkey kids, where divorce became everywhere and we were all raised by women and we don't know how, we didn't know how to be men. So where we, what we do, we went and we totally screwed it up and now we're parents and no one told us how to be parents and unless you were discipled, you're a complete mess and you're going to make your kids a mess. And now we're two generations past that.

Speaker 2: 21:02

That's exactly, and we're seeing the ramifications right now. Look at what's going on right now. Men are women, women are men. There's no polarization between the two of them. They're really everything's fluid, right, everything there. There's no gender roles, like as soon as you mentioned gender roles. Now it's obscene. Yet I hear people say that men and women are equal. I'm like no, men and women are not equal. Equal means the same. If you look at the definition of equality means the same. Men and women are not the same.

Speaker 2: 21:34

I do things a lot better than my partner would do, and she does a lot better things than there's things that she does a lot better than I do. And this is not a competition. On the contrary, we compliment each other. This is how it's supposed to be. But we, as you said, men are not present.

Speaker 2: 21:53

Unfortunately, in most, like 33%, 33 to 40% of young boys are being raised by a single mother in a house where the father is not present, and this is not the fault of the father. I'm not blaming the fathers for not being there. The system is not in favor of the fathers. It is not like we live in a family system where the family law system, I mean, is catered to women. Women have no reason to stay in relationships anymore. Like you, look at the stats just under 50% of weddings end up in divorces. 70 to 90% of women initiate divorces, depending on their education level 70% high school and 90% college slash university educated. So it's not men they're leaving. And not only that, but 90% of kids end up with the mother. So we're in a situation where I know your show I have an idea of what I can say here. There's an agenda here.

Speaker 1: 22:55

And I believe in that agenda. I believe that agenda. I mean as a cop in the inner city. Right, I worked in the war zone in Boston and I saw this play it all the time. I you know the Domestic laws for domestic abuse. We would, we would sometimes Often do 20 domestic calls a night. That's one car. 20 a night right, that's just one car in the city. Right, there are hundreds of cars in the city and I was doing we're one, doing 20 a night and the law is someone's gonna go and it's always the men, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 23:28

and most cops will race.

Speaker 1: 23:30

Yeah, just take the man right now I would always go the extra mile. You know, if I'm there and I show up and the girls like, yeah, he's not a mark on her. And he looks like he had lost a fight to Wolverine, and I'm like, let me guess, yeah, she caught you cheating on her and that's why we're here right now. And he's like, yeah, you got me. And I'm like, okay, well, you know, she's a dog, now I'm gonna take her. And now she turns into Wolverine on me, right, but they know how the ghetto Culture, the women there, know how to how to set up the man a game.

Speaker 1: 24:08

They know how to play the game and they're just like and, and they get them in the system, and now they're trapped. Right now they're trapped and they are the ones that hold the keys to that. Now again, there are monsters who beat up their women and there are there. They're all out there. But what I'm saying is I saw just as much Victimization of men and the weaponization of the system as I saw the other way around.

Speaker 2: 24:29

But there's a lot more than we think because we we know we normalize women hating men. You see it everywhere, even in movies. It's okay Like can you imagine? I'm 210 pounds, my girlfriend's like 110. I'm literally a hundred pounds heavier than her and I'm almost a foot taller. Can you imagine if something would happen? Of course I'm to blame, but how many times does she smack me? She does it all the time and every time I'm like abuse, abuse, yeah, but it's. Can she really inflict that much damage Her? No, but I know professional fighters are her size that if you let them, don't think that because you're a man, they can't mess you up. Bro, you're gonna make a fatal mistake on that one, but it is normalized for women. How many times have I seen this where a Guy gets hit by his wife, his girlfriend, and the first comment of people around is like would you do to deserve that?

Speaker 2: 25:23

Yeah, you deserved it yeah can you imagine if I said that the other way around? You know what? My my girlfriend shows up with a black eye and I'm like you know what she deserved it? Yeah, but this is the double standard that we live in and, unfortunately, family law is exactly like that. Like there's no incentive for women today To work on their marriage, to work like I've been married before and I'm divorced.

Speaker 2: 25:50

And you know what my ex-wife told me when we're getting Divorce, because it wasn't going fast enough for her. She told me and we're talking five foot one, a hundred hundred that pounds tiny little girl. She looked at me. She said you know, maybe I'm gonna tell the police that you beat me so we can speed this up. Wow, and I'm, and I'm standing there and I'm like thinking about all of the things that I could lose, as she's saying that I'm not even trying to be tempered because there's no, I would never lose my temper on that. This is exactly the point. I see this coming. I understand what's going on, but at the same time, I'm like man. She could actually do that if she really wanted to, because in Canada, where I'm, when I'm originally from, men are always pulled out. That's the law If there's an altercation between a man and a woman, who ever started it, the police officers that will show up will take the man out. It's it's absolutely insane.

Speaker 1: 26:47

I remember a situation that I Happened to have when I was a seal and I was dating a girl and this girl had a terrible drinking problem and she went out and I didn't go drinking, whether she came home, and, you know, I locked myself in my room because, you know, I didn't want to deal with her. I was we're fighting already. She comes in the door, she's getting the kicks open, the door is getting physical, you know, and I push her down to get out of the way, to get out of there. Right, she calls the cops. Now I'm a seal. The last thing I need is this right, she calls the cops like hey, this, my, you know, my boyfriend's an ABCL, blah, blah, blah. He's doing this and that, whatever, they send a female cop there and I'm like I am screwed Right this is what I'm thinking right and she's like you got to go and now this is my house, I own it.

Speaker 2: 27:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:41

I own it. She was just staying there. Okay, I got to go and I'm like fine. And as I'm out there talking to her, drunk girl calls there and says, hey, can you send another car because the female cops flirting with my boyfriend, whatever she's like. They called her and told her that and she's like what she's like. Sir, I am sorry.

Speaker 2: 28:01

I understand.

Speaker 1: 28:05

That was last day ever talked to her.

Speaker 2: 28:07

But the thing is that this is as funny as this sounds, that's a very, very small percentage of situation that will end up like this.

Speaker 1: 28:15

Yeah, like I was going and there was gonna be a police report and all this stuff to my command, yeah, my career ramifications, and then, thank God, she did continue to be even more stupid and that's basically what happened, you know. But you know, this is the problem society is at war with masculinity, right?

Speaker 2: 28:32

I mean thank.

Speaker 1: 28:33

God for Jordan Peterson who actually was the first to kind of, the first Mainline person who stood up and said no, we need men and men need to be masculine and they should be monsters and they should learn to control it and all these other things. Because look at every Look at those sitcoms in the past 30 years, who's the punchline? The men.

Speaker 2: 28:54

Yeah, there it's the Homer Simpson syndrome. It's really dumb, fat guys sitting on a cow drinking beer oh, just leave me alone. I'm watching football, yeah, and. But this is what we've become. We have become a joke. And as soon as you admit to yourself that there is an agenda, control is the key. Control is always the goal, no matter what.

Speaker 2: 29:19

If you're in a situation of power, what you want is control. How do you control a society? You make men weak. Men are the first and last line of defense against everything. We build societies, we protect societies and we have the power to destroy them. You know, I was. I was listening to this guy this week. I have never saw it this way, but it was amazing. The guy explained he's talking to a woman and the woman's saying how they don't need men. He looks at her. He's like do you realize that the only reason you have rights is because men gave them to you? Yeah, because as a woman, you do not have the power to enforce your right physically. The only reason you're capable of doing it is because men are doing it for you. But do you know what would happen if, tomorrow, all men agreed that women deserve to live in cage? You would live in a cage because you couldn't fight your way out of it. Yeah, and this is the.

Speaker 2: 30:14

The fallacy in all of this is I'm not trying to blame women, I'm not trying to blame men. I'm trying to say that there's a 50-50 Problem with both of the sides, like there is. We are both to blame for this. But the thing is is that we have to admit that Masculine men are to be embraced, feminine women are to be embraced. And if we can go even further than that, study shows that in order for a woman to be a great mother, she needs to feel protected. And once you understand that a men's job is to protect his family, it means that masculinity itself Allows feminine women to be feminine.

Speaker 2: 30:59

This is what's amazing we are. God is a genius in the way he created us in a way where one takes Cares of the other so that she can take care of the family. It's, it's a beautiful thing that we're completely destroying Because we're under the belief that we're all equal, which we are not. We're not equal, women or not the same, and it is a beautiful thing. Why would I ever want to be with somebody that's exactly like me?

Speaker 1: 31:29

Might as well be alone.

Speaker 2: 31:30

What's the point? What is the point?

Speaker 1: 31:33

Well, you go back to Genesis and you know Adam was masculine and feminine until God removed all that was feminine out of him, with Eve, right. And then he was the guardian of the garden and she was tending the garden, right. That's what was going on. Satan, like Adam, slacked and let Satan into the garden, right. So then what happens? Eve gets tricked by Satan into eating the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. Sees that she now understands good and evil, is afraid from go right and what she want to do. She immediately wants to suck the man down with her and shares it with him, right, he gets it.

Speaker 1: 32:14

Well, here, there he is, and I think there was this moment at Ken Graves, who was an amazing pastor up in Maine. A friend of mine said and he's like Adam sin was not eating the apple, adam sin was choosing Eve over God. Eve ate this and was sitting there and was scared and was horrified and knew she was going to die because of that. And Adam chose her over God and that was it. And who did God come looking for? If you want to know who's responsible? He didn't ask for Eve, he didn't even say her name until it's always Adam.

Speaker 2: 32:45

He's Adam when are you Right?

Speaker 1: 32:48

And so, because he bears the responsibility of protecting Eve from that. So go ahead.

Speaker 2: 32:53

And his biggest mistake was to lack courage. This is, you know, my five virtues of a good man starts with the foundation of courage, and for months I've pondered does faith or courage comes first? And I had a conversation with the pastor, with my pastor, a couple of weeks ago, when I asked him. I'm like, hey bro, what do you think about this? I'm really the and yes, I do call him bro, I'm a bro, I love it, but I'm like which one is it? Which one does come first? He's like you know what? I don't have an answer for you, because in today's world, it takes courage to have faith.

Speaker 1: 33:30

Well, just think how much courage it took. Screw today. Think of Roman times, where, if you were a Christian, they were going to lead you to a lion or light you on fire to light the streets of Rome. That's where the term Roman candle came from. Right, the Roman candle the fireworks we used to shoot was how they lit the streets of Rome. Yeah, yeah, that's where that term came from, dude. So Roman candles were Christians on fire and sconces in cages on the side of the road. That's how they lit the street, right.

Speaker 2: 34:01

And you know Genesis is a lack of courage. What Adam did, instead of standing up to even saying literally hell, no right, he chose to be weak and he messed it all up for us. Yeah, his lack of courage, really messed it all up for us.

Speaker 1: 34:21

Yeah, and, and that was, you know, and again, the knowledge of evil. We weren't ready for it, right? I think, like everyone thinks it was an apple, it wasn't an apple and it wasn't the fruit, it was the knowledge of evil. They already knew good, right, god had taught them what was good. He created everything and said it was good. Yeah, right, they didn't understand that murder was even a possibility, that rape was a possibility, that all the things that are against us were even possible wasn't even in their wildest dreams until they had that. And then they knew, right. And now they knew how dangerous the world was. And we were not. God did not intend them for that, and that has broken us.

Speaker 1: 35:00

Right, we go from that to a generation. Literally, we get the first murderer, then another generation, we're the first mass murderer, right, you know? I mean, it's just after that we have genocide. You know it's, it's, it's really. You know, sin Sin is a virus, it comes in. That's why God can allow sin into heaven, because it contaminates everything around it. It spreads, it's a cancer and it rots everything around, and you know. And so, again, we're still dealing with that, and it's just accelerated to this point where now we're under the curse of confusion, where you don't know what bathroom to use, we don't even know what species we have, people who pretend to be butterflies and fairies and dragons and whatever.

Speaker 2: 35:46

But you know it is. I'm going to retract what I said earlier, because I've been listening to what you're saying, and by me saying that Adam lacked courage and everything that has happened was can be blame on his lack of courage, that means our current situation is our, is our fault you and I, of course, like it has nothing to do with women. We enabled women to be evil, basically.

Speaker 1: 36:13

We let the dragon in right. That's based. We let the dragon in right.

Speaker 2: 36:16

It was our job to protect. We let it happen. So it is. I never, you know what until now I never really thought about it that it was 100% our fault. It's not even what's going on right now is 100% our fault. Well, it is the fault of men 100%.

Speaker 1: 36:34

And here's, here's, the problem. Right, and this is part of the problem that a lot of men do, they don't lead in their house. They marry a strong woman right.

Speaker 1: 36:44

And then what happens? They check out when they go home. Right, they just let that dominant woman take care of the kids, take care of the problems, pay the bills, do this, do that. They show up, they go through the motions. Where do they come alive? When they're with their friends. That's the only time. That's the only time they swap, they turn on and they become themselves. The rest of the time, they're just, they're doing time, and that is not what God intended, and that's why we're in the hell. We're in.

Speaker 2: 37:08

And the worst part of all of this is that women, deep down, want to be led. The only reason they live in their masculine role like this is that men don't have the balls to take their spot, to take their place, to belong, to do what they're supposed to be doing, because it's hard.

Speaker 1: 37:28

It is extremely hard.

Speaker 2: 37:29

It is not. You know, there was a story about this woman, that a trans woman, a trans man, trans woman. I always get confused. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 37:39

A woman. I call him satanic alphabet soup, so whatever.

Speaker 2: 37:42

Well, there you go. But a woman became a man and she committed suicide within a year. She could not understand how she could not live with, how hard it is to be a man because it is men. We take it for granted because we don't know any better. We've never been a woman, so we don't know what it is. But if you look at the dynamic of how the society is compared to men and women, being a man is hard because everything falls on your shoulders.

Speaker 1: 38:09

Oh, yeah, everything falls on us.

Speaker 2: 38:11

Everything, everything falls on us. We are the builders of societies. We've we've literally built this to protect our families, and now we're being told that we don't matter. How ironic, is it Right?

Speaker 1: 38:24

Well, and that's that in a stable society, you can dispose of men temporarily, which is what they're trying to do, of course, right, but look at Ukraine. What happened?

Speaker 2: 38:34

All the women fled and all the women fled, all the men went, got, couldn't leave.

Speaker 1: 38:39

Old men, grandpas had to go fight, young kids had to go fight everyone. So again, you know, masculinity is toxic, unless you need a warrior, which you need a warrior every day to keep the peace. And they don't understand that, like the day an EMP hits, like an EMP or some you know whatever stuff hits the fan thing hits rape will be everywhere. Women will be a commodity, and it will be. It'll be the dark ages again.

Speaker 2: 39:11

How fast will a woman get back to a kitchen the day that she needs to fight? Yeah, well there's memes like I'm not, like it's a joke, but there are memes and I think it's hilarious. It's absolutely hilarious because it is true. Ask a woman to go to the front and fight. She's going to be. She won't look for equality anymore. She's going to want to take her role as taking care of the family.

Speaker 1: 39:35

Yeah, well, that's the draft, Right? I mean, everybody works like. There are girls out there who will want to pick and choose where they can fight and what they can do, and if they're flying a fighter plane, of course, but there's, that's like 0.0001%. No, you're going to get drafted and you're going to be an infantry person and you're going to be on the front lines and your average life expectancy is going to be like six seconds, so you know enjoy right.

Speaker 1: 40:00

You know that that's, that's that that is, unfortunately, mass combat, right, you know? And the war is that we're getting ready to go into against drones, against everything else, all these other things.

Speaker 1: 40:12

It's so scary, man, it's so scary and you know, and what I keep what? The reason why I do what I do right is? You know, I'm a post millennial and I don't know if you know what that means. I believe that God's people win in the end. You know, there's a, there's a is pre millennial, there's a millennial and there's post millennial, so I believe that we are actually winning the war. And what do I mean by that? Okay, not here in America. Okay, america in comfort. Christianity dies in suffering, christianity thrives. So in China, christianity is exploding and other hell holes. Christianity is exploding here in opulence. You don't need God, why? Because you get the pharmacy to get well and you got this and you can mask all these things and you can just become your own God. Right, that's what happens in modern society. And I can't remember where I was going with that. I lost, lost my train of thought, but but it's okay, you're feeding me.

Speaker 2: 41:05

The one of my buddies calls it the aquarium effect.

Speaker 1: 41:09

The aquarium effect.

Speaker 2: 41:10

Yeah, he describes it in a way where we're so used to having everything provided to us that we're like the little fishies in the tank. We don't understand that there are people in the back end are washing the tank or making sure the pH level is good, they're feeding you, they're taking care of all of your needs so that you can. All you can do is be consumed by yourself.

Speaker 1: 41:33

Correct, post mill is where I was going. So the way the reason why I think of that is I look at Christianity started as 12 dudes. It's now like one billion. Yep, it's over a billion, I think so between one and two billion. I think Now are all those people real Christians? No, a lot of them a Christian like, and a lot of them are fire insurance and a lot of that stuff. But it started as 12 dudes in Israel. All right, all right. So are we really losing? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 42:01

So when you look at those numbers, I would say no, right, but again, in comfort, you know synobides, bounds, you know, and in suffering, like, look at war, like war is one of the is part of the ultimate sin, but there's also the ultimate, you know, love and that. You know that you should lay down your life for your friend. You know what I'm saying. And there's heroism and there's all those things you know. So so again, I know I want to kind of pivot back to your book that is going to be coming out and talking about. You know, what do women have to know, like, in your opinion, what do women have to know about raising boys? That they, so they know that, hey, I can't. Just, you know, play catch with them and they're going to be all right.

Speaker 2: 42:46

Thank you for that feed. That's like a perfect pass. I'm running towards the end zone. It's like perfect, perfect, I just caught it, I'm ready to go.

Speaker 2: 42:57

You know, women cannot teach a boy how to become a man. It's really that simple. You need men to teach boys how to become men. There's a good reason throughout all of history there were rites of passages that mature men would have to teach young men what it took to become a man in their specific tribe, their specific society. They needed to be tested.

Speaker 2: 43:19

Men are. You know, boys are born. Men are made through trials and tribulations. We it's always about what we bring to the table. Men are only important in a way that they bring something, that they are serving, that they are the protectors, that they are the providers of their families. This is what we're supposed to go back to, and we live under the fallacy right now that women can teach boys how to become men because men the word masculine is so fluid now that it can be anything. Even our school boards, like you look at our school system. They're teaching boys, they're punishing boys for acting like girls, for not acting like girls. Sorry, if you have a boy like me, that was ADHD just running everywhere can sit still for two seconds. I'd be pumped with medication today and I would be called wrong because I don't behave like a woman or I don't like.

Speaker 1: 44:13

you're a girl, you're a boy, and ADHD doesn't even like that doesn't exist, it doesn't. It's called being a boy.

Speaker 2: 44:21

It's called. I'm 41 years old and I still need to hit the gym 46 times a week to make sure that my energy level. I can control it. I can bring it down.

Speaker 2: 44:31

The point is that women are under the impression right now that they can do a good job alone. But if you look, take this very simply, if we break it down to the most simple basis that we can bring it to, it takes two parents to raise children. There's things that masculine that the male will teach, like logic, discipline being tested, letting the kids get hurt, like things how to become hardened. And then you look at the woman. The mother is supposed to teach emotional intelligence. This is where it comes from.

Speaker 2: 45:08

Yet now we have, we're in situations where women are trying to play both roles. And what do you think happens when you're trying to double, to multitask, you mess up both. And now so we got boys like me that grew up with a mother that's trying to play both roles. That never taught me emotional intelligence, which is something I still struggle with today. This is something I'm very aware of that I've been working on my whole life on trying to be better at. But it's interesting that you look at my sister and she's the same. She's extremely masculine in her energy. Like she is not very emotional with her boyfriends, like her boyfriends are more feminine in nature. But she was never taught how to be feminine and that's because my mom never took the time to do it, because she was too busy trying to do everything. So this is the optic that I have is 33% of boys are being raised by single mothers without their fathers to 40%, depending on the studies, but let's call it 33.

Speaker 1: 46:11

No, and if you go into racial demographics, it's like 90%. Oh, that's insane. It's like 90%. Yeah, yeah, it's like 90%. That's insane, yeah.

Speaker 2: 46:21

It's absolutely insane and the numbers don't lie. You look at the numbers and it's insane. What's happening right now? 90% of prisoners are men that were raised by single mothers. 90% of homelessness is men that were raised by women. They're more prone to drug addiction, to alcoholism, to not do well in school, to be emotionally not damaged but unavailable On every single scale. A boy being raised by a single mother is basically destroying his life.

Speaker 2: 46:53

So I, my book, is to teach those women, to make them understand, through my life, through what I've been through well, being an addict, being a drug dealer, being a thief, being a thug, doing all the wrong things that a man would have slapped some sense into me Somebody would stood up and say you and I are going to have a conversation here and women need to understand this and it's not even for them, it's for your son, if you really care, if you don't want your son to go through what I've been through and God knows it could have been a lot worse, as bad as I was. At least I got friends that are dead because of it. I got friends that ended up in jail because of this. I was lucky, in a sense, that I was able to pick up my life and do something with it. But the point is that women need to understand that you cannot teach a boy how to become a man. You need to find men that follow certain guidelines. You're five fundamental the same thing, as you're five virtues and my five ones that I'm pretty sure that we put the paper. They're pretty much the same, just called differently.

Speaker 2: 48:05

But the point is that there are virtues that boys need to be taught to become men. Women can't teach them to men, they can't teach them to boys, but they can find men that live those values to teach their sons, because this is their jobs. If the men is not there for specific reason, find people, find men that can teach them. And I will go even further to say if the father wants, it's not because the system is in your favor that you have the right to take the father away from his son If, for some reason, you're not together anymore, whatever the reason is, but he wants to be a father. It is not your job to say no. This is not right. And, as a woman, if you have respect for your kid, if your kid matters to you, let the father do his job, because there's nothing worse for both the father and the boy to not be able to be with each other.

Speaker 1: 49:06

Yeah, so God made us to be together, right, I have a 12, 11 week old baby in the house right now. That's my son.

Speaker 2: 49:15

Congratulations, I guess Thank you. Is it a congratulations? I'm just messing with you, should I?

Speaker 1: 49:19

say congratulations. Yeah, and I have a, you know, a four and a half year old daughter, a two year old daughter and a 13 year old son who's about to be 14. So, seeing kids, and how vulnerable we are like when I see my wife taking care of our you know, three months old, right, I can't even imagine that in before electricity, before grocery stores, before all. Like, the reason why God made us this is the wife was taking care of the kid, you know, in the shelter and the man had to go hunt and gather. Yep, you know, I mean, it was a tag team operation. If there was no man, that family died, it was over, right?

Speaker 1: 50:09

And that's what people have to understand. Is that today, yeah, we have crutches, we have grocery stores and we have nannies and we have daycare centers and blah and all these other we homeschool here. We don't. You know, I wouldn't trust my kids to the public school system or anything for anything. But what you have to understand is there God, what God made us for and the how he made us can't be undone by modern society and there is a price to pay, and we're seeing it now with, like I said, the hell and the destabilization that we're in, which is, you know, people don't even know if they're humans anymore. Right, they got kitty litters in bathroom or litter boxes in bathrooms for kids to use. What do?

Speaker 2: 50:55

you do you? Can you honestly say that if men were masculine, this would have ever happened?

Speaker 1: 51:04

No, they would not have happened because it would have stopped a long time ago. Right, you know it would have got, it would have stopped a long time ago. But again, part of that is we surrendered our masculinity to the couch and to comfort and to entertainment distraction, like what do the Romans do when they want to be corrupt? They built the Coliseum and they distract the population entertainment and just keep them distracted until the empire fell.

Speaker 1: 51:33

Right, that's where we are right now. Right, look at, you got football on how many nights a week now. Right, you got bait. And then after that you got baseball and basketball hockey, a million different things plus all these shows back in the day. Right, if you want to watch, a show is on once a week. You can only watch Dukes of hazard once a week, right, you know, or whatever. Now you can binge watch 400 episodes of it and never leave your couch, never leave your house. You get food delivered grub hop or Instacart or whatever and you can just blob it out your whole life.

Speaker 2: 52:08

And people don't do this anymore. They don't sit, they don't sit and read.

Speaker 2: 52:12

This reading is difficult. Did you know that for most people picking up a book which is something I try to do every single day this is hard. Are you kidding me that this is hard? And I like Lauren's questions, by the way, like I just saw it, I love that question and you know? Is it detrimental? Yes, it is, absolutely. If the father is not there all the time. Of course it's going to play a role, there's no doubt about it. But let's assume, like I was saying, that in 33% of cases the father is not going to be there and the woman's not just going to give his son or son away. So what's the solution?

Speaker 1: 52:52

Well, and the thing is is the son needs to see, he needs to know who he needs to grow up to be. Of course, that's the model right. And what do women do? They grow up to be their dad. They marry their dad, right? That's what they do.

Speaker 2: 53:05

Good or bad?

Speaker 1: 53:07

Yeah, guys grow up to want to want to be their dad. Right, and hopefully you disciple. Now my whole thing is your primary job as a man on this planet. It is my, my, my opinion is to disciple your family onto Jesus Christ. Right, that gets masculinity, femininity taken care of. Right, it gets you 100% inoculated against all the struggles of the world. Because you are surrendering to the creator of the universe. You only have to fear God. You don't have to fear anything else ever. Right, and you can bet you can handle burying me, then you can handle burying your mom, then you can handle all the bad things that are going to happen to you in this life. Because bad things are going to happen to you. Why? Because you have been discipled onto Jesus Christ. That's why. Because you know this isn't the end. You know this life is a living sacrifice. And, and you know, and again, all of our problems would go away if we would just raise our kids biblically again, and you know what?

Speaker 2: 54:09

That's why faith is so important to me. That's why I'm working on bringing it in a way that it will resonate with people that were not raised in a religious house, like I was not raised as a religious person.

Speaker 2: 54:24

Yeah, I was an atheist for 37 years, so a lot of the people that I meet. I'm in Alabama right now but throughout my travels in the US I've we've been everywhere in the South and it's just normal, like people have been in the church their whole life. The pastors are. They were 20 when they joined the cemetery. Like to them it's totally cemetery.

Speaker 1: 54:50

I stopped my cemetery is right.

Speaker 2: 54:53

cemetery, yeah, they learned everything from the dead. But man they're, you know they're goody to shoot pastor. That's how I call them. Like no disrespect to them, but this is how I call them.

Speaker 1: 55:05

No, you're right, and when you're done I'll comment on it.

Speaker 2: 55:07

But that's why I'm trying to bring it in a way that it's masculine. I'm a big guy, I'm a muscular guy, I'm covered in tattoos. I swear I'm not your typical Christian, absolutely not. I'm very far from your typical Christian. But this is who I want to talk to. I want to talk to guys like me five years ago that were man. I know there's something more than this and I'm not going to listen to a goody to shoot pastor. That guy does not. I don't see myself in that pastor. That guy was never addicted. That guy was never selling drugs. He was never in a situation where he's done a lot of bad things. So why would I listen to him? So this is why faith is so important and this is why I craft a message around it. But it is not easy, man. It's hard to be able to speak to those men without sounding like a pastor or something like a preacher. There's a very fine line.

Speaker 1: 56:02

Well, no, it's so weird it comes like this is that's what your testimony is about, right? Your testimony is to lift other people up, right. God pulled you up onto the life raft right and your job is to pull the next guy up in the life. And who do you pull? You pull up other people like you, Right.

Speaker 1: 56:19

So, 37 years I was an atheist. I got saved, and then I went church shopping for about five years because I couldn't find a pastor who was actually masculine. They're all beta male, you know, sweater vest, wearing no calluses on their hands, no scars on their bodies, and I'm like, and I just like I don't fit here, man. No, you know, I don't fit here, until I found a pastor that was like that.

Speaker 1: 56:43

And he showed me that you can do both and that inspired me to become one, to go after alphamiles, to go after people like myself and to pull them up and say hey, listen, I know you're, you're, you don't feel right, you know in your, your bubble gum church over there, and that you're just tuning it out. Let's come over here and let's get real.

Speaker 2: 57:05

Yep, and now I met a pastor. My first pastor I met like that, was about eight months ago in Yuma, arizona, of all places. That's exactly what happened. He was a old drug dealer and we talked so much and he was a sinner. He was a sinner and he had no issues speaking about it, which is another thing I don't like about a lot of Christian church. I'm a sinner. I'll be the first one to admit to this. I talk about it all the time. Look at my content. You'll find I talk about it all the time and you know what. I expect a pastor to talk about it too, because you're not Jesus Christ brother. Neither am I. I will never become. I will sin for the rest of my life. I don't want to, but I guarantee you that I will sin for the rest of my life, and there's nothing to be ashamed of this. I've already paid somebody else. I've already paid the price of my sins.

Speaker 1: 57:58

And that's part of the thing that I felt was also missing. Guys like you and me, we're all going to have the same. We're going to see the same holes. There was no one there being authentic.

Speaker 2: 58:08

Meaning no one was getting up there. It was all an act. It was all their act.

Speaker 1: 58:12

And then I would look at their families and their families were catastrophes and I knew that it was an act. Because guess who you can't fake out. You can't fake out your family. They see you when you're tired, when you're sick, when you're feeling lazy. They see you all the time. So you can't fake out your family. So if I want to know a Christian's really a Christian, I look at their family and I'm like did they pass on their Christian identity? And if they didn't, they're a phony.

Speaker 2: 58:41

You know I wanted to say something earlier because I think you're going to like the irony in this. But we met a couple here in church Some top three most awesome people we've met and like that I've met in my life Like that's how awesome they are. The guy's a teacher, he's a history teacher in the public system. His wife is a stay at home wife that homeschool his children.

Speaker 1: 59:05

Of course, of course. I mean, that's the surprising sliders.

Speaker 2: 59:09

But how awesome is that? I love it. I absolutely love the fact that he's a very Christian man. He's been on multiple missions around the world to spread the gospel. He's a history teacher, but he homeschools his children.

Speaker 1: 59:26

Yeah, well, I mean, they know, they see it all, dude. I mean just thinking what public schools got invented? They actually been invented by. A hero of mine, which was Martin Luther, restarted the first public school, but it was to educate people on God, not on, not on how to be great. Like what the? What the Rothschilds did and the Rockefellers did is? They created a slave class, and so you were meant to go, get out of the house, away from your parents, to be discipled, and not to be discipled, to be indoctrinated into being a good working slave class, of course.

Speaker 2: 1:00:01

And you know Ricky's saying something. Really I like what he's saying. You know, if you are a man and you are not pushing your physical fitness, you are sinning against God. I somebody wrote that on Instagram the other day and I'm like bang on, brother. I totally agree with you. If you're a man, you should be as physically fit as possible, because if your job is to protect, you're supposed to have the skills, you're supposed to have the mindset, you're supposed to be able to do what needs to get done when it needs to get done. How can you not understand that you need physical prowesses? You need to be able to do it.

Speaker 1: 1:00:44

If this is your only weapon, then you're only answer to everything. Right, you have failed. This is the last answer.

Speaker 1: 1:00:52

You can end up in jail and out of your kid's life. If this is your only answer, you need to be able to use these and you need to be able to use this. I was going to say this yes, agreed. So this is the daughter of a great friend of mine. Hello, this is Alana Adrian's daughter Question regarding female role models, such as Deborah in jail, who act masculine but nonetheless we're used great by God to men. So those two people they were elevated because the men of Israel had failed and they were actually under judgment when God made women lead them. Now, again, they were given a place of honor, but that was actually because no men were worthy right? So then she got Barack and Jail's husband. Judges 4 and 1 Corinthians 7, which supports the idea that women should not, women not called to marry, can and should pursue God's calling for them and celibacy 100%. I think that some people Jesus talks about this some people have the gift of not being sexually motivated. That's some people. That's not me, that's not you.

Speaker 2: 1:02:00

That's a gift.

Speaker 1: 1:02:02

That is some people and I understand it like for the first time the other day. I've always made fun of Catholics and the Catholic priests are not real men, because they don't you know whatever. But I remember the other day I'm sitting there like a kid scrying, my whole house is sick. My whole house is sick, my whole house is COVID. Again, Everything's going on. I'm like I now get it why they think that, because they never will have to deal with this. They will only be able to focus on themselves and their walk with God. So I understand it Right. So again, I'm not saying it's right, but I understand it. But when you are leading a family, so I want to kind of pivot back again. So again. So, Alana, I hope I answered your question.

Speaker 2: 1:02:51

I want to say something about what you said, because I love this. I talk about this all the time. The thing to understand here is when there's a lack of masculine energy, women will have to take on that role. 100 percent Femininity can stop to exist, and men until, obviously, they all die because you can't reproduce. But masculinity will continue to survive. But masculinity, women, femininity needs masculinity to exist and they will feel that role. But I guarantee you something Put real men, real masculine men, around those women. These women will embrace femininity right away. They will go back to their natural role. It's just that it needs to be filled and they're forced to take that role, not because they want to, but because they have to.

Speaker 1: 1:03:44

Yeah, and you know and I want to speak out against because we've got our shield brothers and shield sisters that are part of our crew here. I think that you know, again, feminine women can know how to defend themselves, right, you know. Just think of the Vikings and their shield maintenance, right. So, again, when the men were away raiding, who do you think protected the house from the other raiding villains, the other raiding Vikings? The shield meetings protected the house 100%, right? So that is again why we're a unit.

Speaker 1: 1:04:19

You always need somebody to watch your six. You always need somebody to have that. And if you've chosen the right woman, you've trained her how to fight, you've trained her how to shoot, you've trained her how to thank, you trained her on tactics. You trained well, she's the best partner you can ever have, because there are times and I've talked about and I've been very transparent where I get knocked down and I got it, and my wife has to come over and put her shield over me and help me get back up. That is your job as a wife, is a trusted advisor and somebody who's there to be your shield man.

Speaker 2: 1:04:53

So but even more than that. I was thinking about this the other day. You know the expression that says that behind every great man there's an even greater woman, and I was picturing it in my head. I'm like it makes sense, because men are supposed to lead, but at the same time, men are supposed to protect their women. So that's why they're standing in front of them, not because they're bossing them around, but because they're leading and they're protecting them at the same time. If I, if I stand in front of my woman, you're not seeing her. You could shoot, you could try to shoot her. You're just going to hit me. So I love that analogy. It is we're meant to be complimenting each other, we're meant to polarize each other, and it needs to be embraced instead of trying to make ourselves all the same.

Speaker 1: 1:05:45

Yep, and then you have here. You have Lauren commenting again. Lauren's my wife. Some women who feminism, think they want to fill the masculine role, but they are so deceived, 100% it's. It's like a dog trying to be a cat and a cat trying to be a dog. They're different. They're completely different. There are things that my wife is amazing at like me, I would rather get shot at them. Being a room with a bunch of kids crying, my wife can go into that room. Instead, in that fire, that furnace of like that, my kryptonite, that's my kryptonite. She can go in there and she can roll through that and it's nothing.

Speaker 2: 1:06:19

She loves it, she probably enjoys it.

Speaker 1: 1:06:22

Whereas me you put me in there, I'm in hell. That would be awful for me. I'd rather be out and rolling around out front with a, you know, in a knife fight. Yeah, that deal with that, dude. You know, it's just, it's just. It's just. We're built so different and that's what's what makes we were always meant to be dependent on one another. You know, we were always meant to be a unit. Right, again, you know, you look like I'm a farmer. Right, I've got animals and like a pig, like a pig is up and walking. Within minutes. Right, a pig, a pig, a pig is born. It's already a formidable creature within minutes. Right, a baby is a useless blob. For how long? Yeah, right, you know what I'm saying. You give a pig three months and it's totally independent. It can do whatever Us not even close A cat. A cat. Right, it's going to stand within the first 30 minutes.

Speaker 2: 1:07:17

Yep.

Speaker 1: 1:07:17

A baby's a blob You're going to starve over there on its own Right. It needs someone to do it, and that's why God created this this way so that we would need each other.

Speaker 2: 1:07:28

Not sure about the enjoy part. Okay, I assume I'll take the blame on that one. I assume that you enjoyed it, but you know there's a. There's a story I always tell on, or something I always tell to men on podcasts. Where can you imagine, as a man, carrying a baby for nine months, having it destroy as it comes out and still loving it's, not wanting to kill it right there? Up to now I've asked that question at least a hundred times. Not once have I had a man say, oh no, I'd love it. No, they all made that same face they're like. Yet women somehow get to describe that as one of their favorite experience in their whole lives. They might hate it when it happens, but afterwards, greatest moment, explain that to me that there's not a, that they're not meant or built a different way than you and I 100% 100%, you know.

Speaker 1: 1:08:21

So we're going to take a quick break, we're going to come back, we're going to wrap it up and we're going to pray it out. So we'll be back in about 60 seconds. All right, we're back with my brother Nico. Hey man, it has been awesome to talk to you and hang out and say I feel like I made another friend. I hope, when you're in the RV and you're swinging up 81, you come on by and check out the compound here.

Speaker 2: 1:08:44

I was hoping and invite me because I'm not that far off. I'm a couple hours away from where you are, so I'll jump in the truck. I don't need to carry this RV with me, I'll just come in the truck. I don't want to move this thing anymore. I've driven it like 15 or 20,000 miles this year. I don't want to move this anymore.

Speaker 1: 1:09:02

Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. So, the book when is it going to come out and where can people follow you? I want to make sure that people can find you.

Speaker 2: 1:09:12

NicoLagincom. All of my stuff on my social, everything I do, is on there. It's going to come out sometime first quarter of next year. Like I'm still writing it, it's just I needed inspiration for my faith. Like I saying earlier, I needed to find a way to deep dive and put it into words, but that's the only part that's left. But I want to take time to do it properly because it's going to be. I really want to change lives with it.

Speaker 1: 1:09:37

So well, anything worth doing is worth doing, right, Right.

Speaker 2: 1:09:41

A million thousand percent. Yes.

Speaker 1: 1:09:43

So, again, I'm going to, I'm going to pray us out. You can either bounce out of here. I'd like to talk to you after the show. It'll only be a couple of minutes. It's up to you.

Speaker 2: 1:09:54

I don't miss prayer time All right, awesome.

Speaker 1: 1:09:57

All right, guys, let's go. And once we're in our third battle here today, family father, we thank you. We thank you for this time of fellowship. We thank you for Nico and his, his testimony, his story, what has made him him that? You have made him so perfectly for the mission that you have in mind, as you do for all of us. But we know that you are the great carpenter, the great builder, the creator. We know you don't need anything, lord, but if you want to use tools, use us, Lord. If you need a hammer, send us. If you need a screwdriver, send us. Need a wrench saw, whatever it may be, we would be honored and humbled to serve you in any way. Lord.

Speaker 1: 1:10:42

Lord, I pray that anyone who watched this, if we see this, if we see anything that ruffled any feathers or anything like that, people would look inside and see is it really hurt there or is there something to be learned there? Lord, I hope that when we that, when we speak truth, that we offend enough to affect change, but not enough to destroy relationships. It's just like iron sharpening iron, lord. When iron sharpens, iron sparks fly. Let us spark enough to get an edge, but not enough to cause a fire. Lord, you probably would bless this podcast and that it's something we said today would be useful for somebody somewhere.

Speaker 1: 1:11:23

And now I pray a prayer protection for this fellowship and for Nico, for the persecuted church, for our first responders at home, our troops overseas and our veterans of yesteryear. I pray for Israel and the whole world that we don't go into World War III. And I pray for my beloved America that she would turn from her sin, hit her knees, repent and seek your face, and that you would heal her so that we would once again become one nation under God, indivisible, a liberty justice for all. And now I call this fellowship to put on the full armor of God, strap on shield of faith, pick up the sword of the spirit and boldly step forward into the shield wall, locking shields to the left and right as we march forward to take ground for your kingdom, for your glory forever. In Jesus' name, we pray Amen. All right, everyone. God bless you and we will see you. So I'll see you tomorrow, nico. Hang on.