Saddle up for a podcasting adventure with Jason Tieri and Christopher Talin, the engaging non-marital pair who are here to stir up our thoughts on everything from the gig economy to the creative process. Over whiskies that are as unique as their podcasts, these two storytellers unravel the intricacies of their shows - Jason’s deep dives into mental health and the gig economy, and Christopher's intimate conversations with creatives on Creative Ops. We navigate through their perspectives on tourist traffic and Appalachian Trail hikers, painting a vivid picture of the local life they experience daily.
Pour yourself a glass and join us as we delve into the mysteries and theories that have emerged in the shadow of COVID-19. Not just content to skim the surface, we plunge headlong into discussions on potential lab origins, the politics of mask-wearing, and those infamous 5G myths, all tackled with a balance of science and skepticism. It's not all heavy debate, though; expect a hearty dose of humor as we envisage sci-fi pandemics and confess our favorite TV shows, all while contemplating the marvels of evolving smartphone tech.
Wrapping up, we reflect on the power of collaboration within the podcasting world, sparked by my guest appearance on Chris's show, proving that when two creative minds come together, the conversation only gets richer. So sit back, relax, and prepare to have your curiosity ignited as we discuss, dissect, and, yes, occasionally debunk the captivating and the contentious. Whether you're a gig worker, a creative soul, or just someone who enjoys a thought-provoking chat, you'll find a place at our table.
Saddle up for a podcasting adventure with Jason Tieri and Christopher Talin, the engaging non-marital pair who are here to stir up our thoughts on everything from the gig economy to the creative process. Over whiskies that are as unique as their podcasts, these two storytellers unravel the intricacies of their shows - Jason’s deep dives into mental health and the gig economy, and Christopher's intimate conversations with creatives on Creative Ops. We navigate through their perspectives on tourist traffic and Appalachian Trail hikers, painting a vivid picture of the local life they experience daily.
Pour yourself a glass and join us as we delve into the mysteries and theories that have emerged in the shadow of COVID-19. Not just content to skim the surface, we plunge headlong into discussions on potential lab origins, the politics of mask-wearing, and those infamous 5G myths, all tackled with a balance of science and skepticism. It's not all heavy debate, though; expect a hearty dose of humor as we envisage sci-fi pandemics and confess our favorite TV shows, all while contemplating the marvels of evolving smartphone tech.
Wrapping up, we reflect on the power of collaboration within the podcasting world, sparked by my guest appearance on Chris's show, proving that when two creative minds come together, the conversation only gets richer. So sit back, relax, and prepare to have your curiosity ignited as we discuss, dissect, and, yes, occasionally debunk the captivating and the contentious. Whether you're a gig worker, a creative soul, or just someone who enjoys a thought-provoking chat, you'll find a place at our table.
Welcome to.
Speaker 2:Drunkinspiracy.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to another episode of Drunkinspiracy's podcast. Tonight we have special guests Jason and Christopher Talin. How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3:Good man.
Speaker 2:Just just for clarification we're not married.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're related Jason too. No, just for telling yeah, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 1:So both guests have their own podcast, and Jason does a little more than just podcasting. Jason, why don't you go ahead and tell my listeners about your podcast and what else you do? Yeah, I have a couple of podcasts.
Speaker 2:First one is called the Gig Economy podcast and that one's about anything gig economy like DoorDash, grubhub, uber Eats, uber Lyft, driving right now a lot of that going on due to the pandemic, but yeah, the Gig Economy podcast. And then the other one's Threads podcast Life on Filter. That's more of a down and dirty two guys talking about emotional stuff and mental health and uncomfortable conversations. So that was Threads podcast Life on Filter. And then, of course, we have a media company called hey Guys Media Group. So if you're interested in starting a podcast, that's something that we can help you out with. Thank you for having on the show, justin. I'm super excited for this but scared to take a shot because I haven't probably done the shot in 10 years.
Speaker 1:You'll be fine and thanks for coming on. I love having you guests, so it's a pleasure to have you. Christopher, why don't you tell my listeners about your show?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have a show called Creative Ops and it's a podcast for creative people by creative people. I'm a little bit of a musician and I write and I just talk to other people that do all kinds of things. I talk to a guy that did special effects for movies, talk to a rapper, talk to a metal singer, some nurses, a few other people just kind of figure out what they do and how their creative process works. It's all just about kind of boiling down the creative process behind mural festivals, medical care, art, music, whatever.
Speaker 1:Very cool, very cool. Definitely have to check out your guys' shows here after this. So it's obviously a drinking podcast. We get drunk, so why don't you guys tell me what you're drinking tonight?
Speaker 2:Go ahead, Chris. I got Knob Creek Smoked Maple 90 proof Very nice, have not had any yet Is that made in Michigan, Chris?
Speaker 3:No, no, no. It's like any good, respectable bourbon made in Kentucky.
Speaker 2:How dare you Right? I am drinking Traverse City Whiskey, cherry flavored. It's really good, obviously made in Traverse City, michigan, so it's a good bourbon whiskey. It's almost good enough that you can drink without a mixer Almost.
Speaker 1:Emphasis on the almost.
Speaker 2:Almost it's close.
Speaker 3:That's you. I love sipping on whiskey, Just whiskey and ice man.
Speaker 2:Really Even the cheap shit.
Speaker 3:Well, no, I'll drink Jack Daniels, but if it's much lower than that, then yeah, I'll put some cherry coke in it.
Speaker 1:I like Jack Daniels because I was born and raised in Tennessee, so for me, for me there's no respected Tennessee. And does not drink Jack.
Speaker 2:So fair and sound upon.
Speaker 1:And also tonight. My shop for tonight is actually Old, smoky Moonshine from Gatlinburg, where I'm from.
Speaker 3:Do they have a tasting room right there downtown?
Speaker 1:Yep, as soon as you walk in the distillery you have like their little like gift shop and stuff and their tasting room.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I think I've been there because my wife and I did our honeymoon Like in a little rental place kind of between Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge. And then, just two years ago, we went back there again with the whole family. Now this time.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I'm from Pigeon Forge, like, born and raised there. I went to Pigeon Forge High School. So yeah, I'm from the area. I know it very well.
Speaker 3:Can I ask you one question?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:What do locals think about the Appalachian Trail Hikers? Because I know like people say, like don't pick them up, don't encourage them, don't give them food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, basically what you said. Just see one, just keep on trucking Usually don't pay them any mind Kind of like the tourist as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bet that gets a little annoying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll tell you what the thing we hate most down there with tourists is when they try to drive on our back roads. Just stay on the main parkway and you're fine. Don't venture off into the back roads, because that's those are our roads, so we're not stuck in the traffic. Yeah we get where we need to be.
Speaker 3:Because Pigeon Forge traffic is no joke, man.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, depending on the time of year too, but yeah, like mid-summer it's fucking horrible, especially during rod run season. Yeah, yeah, we also did a big rod run down there and the traffic's fucking insane. It'll take you an hour to get from Pigeon Forge into Gatlinburg.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely, we were trying to go just to the oh. What's the house of Wonderworks? That place that looks like it's upside down. Yeah, we were trying to go from Gatlinburg to that place, but it was like at night on like a Friday night and it took us legit like an hour.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous, especially if you don't know the back ways, because, um yeah, instead of sitting on that traffic, there's a way you could have gone through Gatlinburg or what it brought you out into Sereerville, and then you could have gotten there probably much quicker.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and the traffic there sucks. We don't get that kind of traffic where I live up here, so yeah, yeah, you're an East.
Speaker 3:Side or now right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know about Grand Rapids. I don't even think I've been to Grand. I know I've been to Grand Rapids one time for work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a cool city, but like I mean, unless you're coming for a very specific event, like we don't have any top tier professional sports teams, everything is kind of like right. It's a very minor league type of city. Cool, I like it, but it's yeah, it doesn't get the heat that Detroit gets, or even Ann Arbor.
Speaker 1:No but I heard I heard, grand Rapids has a lot of good breweries out there. Oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Plans. I bet you could go to 50 or 60 easy.
Speaker 3:Really. There's even one really good one about five minutes from where me and Jason live. Okay, Is that?
Speaker 2:two guys.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I was thinking of Oz Goods. I hate Oz.
Speaker 2:Goods what. You know why they treated me like my wife and I went in there one time and they kind of ignored us. You know how you have that first impression when you go to places like oh sure. I get the vibe of like we're just a chill place, but we were there to eat and they just ignored us for like 10 minutes while we stood there and I'm like, yeah, I'm out. I've never tried their beer. I've never done anything there since then.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, maybe I'll get you in there one of these days.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:All right, bro, it's like no, I had it.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, let's, let's take these shots real quick and get going here.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Cheers.
Speaker 2:Cheers.
Speaker 3:Cheers fellas, I'm wasted Woo.
Speaker 1:You all right, Jason.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:About 15 minutes. You're just going to see like the top half of his head laying on the test.
Speaker 1:It's funny you say that I actually did one of these shows and like we're about 10 minutes from rapping and the dude blacks out on me.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, you're kidding me.
Speaker 1:I swear to God Like did you post the show?
Speaker 1:I haven't yet. I thought about posting it still just like, because we were towards the end, we were like legitimately 10 minutes out from like rapping it, yeah, and like I finished what I said to him and I'm just, I just see him just like like looking like that and I'm just like, and so like there was like a pause for a second and I'm just like sitting there, I'm like I'm like hey man, you good, he's like nothing. So I was like motherfucker, I'm like we're, we were so close and uh, but yeah, I haven't posted it yet. I thought about just going in and editing it to where, like I just I just do the end of the episode, yeah.
Speaker 2:I would just reach out to him and say hey man, this happened. I'm not sure what you want me to do with it, not that he gets to choose, but just as a courtesy, I think, because I don't know if I'd want. Although, how much did you drink during the show? Or how how much were you drunk before you started the show? Cause I mean, it's like an hour, right Top's, if that like maybe a little longer, but still.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He told me he had a family gathering before, and so he was kind of drinking then too.
Speaker 1:But no, he actually messes with me the next day and he's like, hey, man, did I pass out on you last night? I'm like, yeah, you did, that's great. And he's like that's my bad. He's like that's not the first time it's happened, though, and I'm just like, well, I have a drinking problem. Then he's like. He's like is the? Is the episode still good? I'm like, oh yeah, it was, it was good, but I haven't posted it yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Well, if he's gay man, yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I'd say do it. Yeah, I'll probably. I'll probably end up posting it just because.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I gotta go back in there and fix the ending a little bit, or you don't edit it and you title it like a little click baby, like guy passes out. At the end of this one I guarantee that would be your number one download for the show.
Speaker 1:It might be I may have to do that. Thanks for the idea.
Speaker 3:All right guys, all right, all right.
Speaker 1:So you guys want to jump into this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:All right, so tonight's conspiracy theory COVID-19. What are you guys, what's your thoughts on it?
Speaker 3:I definitely think that it's a real virus. Actually, actually, my wife tested positive for it. I didn't get tested. They said if we don't feel bad, we didn't have to come in and get tested, just everybody quarantined. So we did that. We're done with our quarantine. She's back at work now. Didn't really hit any of us too terribly hard, but I mean my wife lost her smile for about a week. So like it ain't bullshit, right. But Jason plenty of interesting stuff. Oh, I'm sorry to say.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're good.
Speaker 3:Many of interesting stuff beyond, like is it real or not? That I found fascinating while I was doing some research, Right yeah.
Speaker 2:Chris. Chris has done most of the research on this. I'm just a good bullshitter, you know. I don't know how you want the show to trend, but a lot of the you know the whole anti mask and all that other stuff is is based on people thinking. A lot of them, some of them, it's like their constitutional right, but some of them is like I don't believe in masks, like or I don't believe in COVID, so why should I wear a mask? And to me that just seems ridiculous. I don't understand us Americans. I've struggled so much with killing this virus or getting it squashed down because of, well, a lot of people think it's not real. I mean, you see stuff on Tik Tok I know I'm a tick, I'm on Tik Tok all the time or Reddit or whatever. It's just. It's just very odd that someone would actually say it's created or it's fake, like why would, why would the government do that? As much as? As much as I keep a, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, as much as I keep a yardstick away from the government, why would they create a pandemic like this? I don't see any advantage of that personally, the most is going to Chris, the biggest advantage I see of no, no problem.
Speaker 1:The biggest advantage I see about our government willing to do something like that is it was an election year. Every election year, some, some fucking shit happens, like something major happens.
Speaker 3:And right, I'm not saying this was it and I'm not saying it's not it, but it's kind of coincidental that the year of one of the biggest election days, the years we have this major fucking virus outbreak- Well, and that's without getting into the whether whether we like him or not, that's what our president's been saying is that, you know, this is all a conspiracy against him to hurt his reelection chances, because everything was so great that they needed something big to push him out. Well, he had definitely feeding the thoughts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he had every advantage to be better through this to win the like. He could have flipped the script and and done better and he may have got a reelected.
Speaker 3:Yeah maybe but I don't know. It's ever since Jeffrey Epstein's whole thing came out like. I used to be like people who believe in conspiracy theories are crazy. The chemtrails aren't real. Like this is, this is the pedophile island. And then you're like oh wait, there actually was a pedophile island. Okay, hold on a second. There are some people in power doing weird shit out there.
Speaker 1:And then I, I 100% believe that, like the higher ups in our government and even like just like the elite people in our country, they're like the state yeah, they're, they're, they're into some shady shit and 100%.
Speaker 2:I agree to.
Speaker 1:And I've never. I've never considered myself one of those crazy conspiracy theorists just because I keep an open mind to things. Crazy conspiracy theorists don't keep an open mind. They they refuse to hear both sides. They're just like dead set on what they believe and don't give anyone else like a chance to like prove them their way.
Speaker 3:But I keep an open mind, so what you're saying is right, though, like it's good to question, as long as you keep an open mind and not go, not, you know, lock yourself in your house and never see the sun again. But like I saw some videos of people and I was looking stuff up, that one guy like walked into a the lobby of a hospital and just started screaming Where's all the COVID patients? Show me the COVID patients and they're all like Well sir, they're not in the lobby. He's like it's a hoax and then just run.
Speaker 1:I have not seen that video, but I may have to look for it now.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 1:Just like they'd keep the COVID patients, just like sitting in a chair in a lobby.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's the funniest part is the nurses like Sir, they don't sit in a lobby.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious. Just calm, as can be probably the nurses, like you know. They see crazies all the time and the ER she's like, yeah, they're not sitting here. I mean, what else do you want? Go back to her work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's. That's actually really funny. I'll definitely have to check for that video. But, um, yeah, I mean there's a lot of people out there that believe this isn't actually a virus, that it's all made up, and people believe that it is real.
Speaker 2:A couple of things that Chris and I kind of talked about before the show is there's a couple of the conspiracy theories, like it wasn't man made in China? Did it get released by the Chinese government? Um, I actually kind of believe that the virus was accidentally let out of the lab. I don't think it was done on purpose. I mean, our labs are doing that in the United States. They're making some of the the nastiest shit. Well, because they need to test it and figure it out, and so when things like this happened but a lot of people when I looked it up, they said you know, you're pretty much crazy If you think it was man made I'm like I don't know. I still believe that one. I still believe that they were working on something and something. Just it just got out. It happens, mistakes happen. I mean you can only we're not perfect. Sometimes those things happen.
Speaker 3:That's like how every pandemic movie starts. Have you guys ever seen the old CBS miniseries, the stand, the Stephen King one from like 1990s?
Speaker 1:No, I know of it, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3:Well, the book starts out the same way but it's more easy to visualize it. I mean it starts out this guy. All of a sudden you just see this lab. This guy goes running out of the lab, All the sirens are going off. He real quick, runs into his car, drives to his house, tells his wife and kid get in the car and then they drive off the army base just as the gates closing and then they spread it to the rest of the world and he's getting away from it. But he's actually taking it out and spreading it to everybody. So I mean, like I don't know, maybe it's art imitating life. Like yeah, just all it takes is one person to not wash their hands right or whatever, and then this thing spreads like wildfire.
Speaker 3:Because I was some of the notes I took the first case of viral pneumonia. I'm doing air quotes. Viral pneumonia in China was like December 31. And then, january 13, the who officially acknowledged that it had left China. So in under two weeks this thing was like hey, there's a problem in China. Oh, now there's a problem in the entire world.
Speaker 1:Actually, during my research, it actually took me to November of 2019. Yeah, so it in November of 2019 at first came to Wuhan China's attention that because they had patients come in with flu like symptoms, but it wasn't the flu, it was something a little stronger than the flu, but they didn't they. They didn't know what it was. And that was in November. It wouldn't. Then, like you said, in December is when they got they. I believe is when they caught it as a virus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm looking at my notes right now. That's when the who, the world health organization, officially picked up a media statement of viral pneumonia coming out of China.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so back in November they got their first cases. Then I believe it was like December was it December 31st? They actually shut down that market where they said it came from.
Speaker 3:That might have been because that's the same date that the World Health Organization got involved.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I know they shut down that market, that they think that there was something. Yeah, because they sold live animals and shit like that too.
Speaker 3:Conditions for them weren't great. They just stacked the cages and they all shit on each other.
Speaker 1:What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3:I don't know man.
Speaker 2:You're into that.
Speaker 3:If you're into that kind of thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but in like, how, the whole thing with like the like, a lot of people thought it was like the bat, like people over in China were eating bats, making like bat soup, and they said it came from that. They do believe it was originally spread from bats, but they do not. They're like it wasn't because they were making bat soup and eating it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, the little bit of research I did because I followed that lead to like oh well, maybe it's from this market. They said that all evidence shows that if you cooked an animal that had this, the cooking it would kill it. So I mean, unless they were like making bat sushi, then that's probably not that realistic, but I don't know what actually Wuhan.
Speaker 1:Right, but what they were saying with the, what I saw with the bats and all shit like that, the market wasn't selling live bats. But they said something about the bats and then like snakes, oh, and they think that because they were selling live snakes, they're for human consumption.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So they think like something with the bats, maybe have like shit on the snakes or something along those lines, to where the snakes would get the virus and then they were selling these live snakes in the market and if people are buying the snake to consume, yeah, that's how they got in it.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing. Jump from a mammal to a reptile, back into another human Well yeah, and I'm saying how long these markets been going on it all of a sudden this year it decided to do problems with those markets anyway, like health issues, but not like great Right. That's why.
Speaker 3:I'm done. That's a little bit redundant, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why I kind of feel like it's somewhat lab oriented, because I mean, I mean, I don't know, it just seems a couple of scientists that have come out and like really promoted that idea and one of them was even on the Joe Rogan podcast a while ago and they say that basically, like, just as as infectious as this thing is, it's almost impossible that it can be that infectious, grow that fast, mutate that fast without some kind of, you know, synthetic assistance to to move along that way.
Speaker 2:And the biggest thing that they that sticks to that story is the sunlight. Like that, the virus gets smoked by the sun. So it's like, well, this lab, if this thing was created in the lab, it never has seen the sunlight, it's never dealt with it. So all of a sudden it gets out. You get in the sun, or like lots of vitamin D helps it too. You know like it smokes it. So you're like that's odd, why would it? Why would all the sun? Why would the sun make a difference? I'm like because we're created in the lab, dammit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, the thing that does well in lab conditions and lab conditions indoors climate.
Speaker 1:Indoors climate controlled yes, but yeah with but yeah like getting into like the different conspiracies about it, like the. The number one conspiracy of the virus is that it was manmade in a lab.
Speaker 3:That's where I land. I think it was.
Speaker 2:Me too. I just don't think you're not an expert, so don't, don't take it for me, you're not.
Speaker 3:I'm in. Yeah, I, I believe qualified to be a middle school teacher.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah, I believe it was manmade, but I don't believe it was released on purpose.
Speaker 3:That's kind of where I am too, but yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of there with you guys. At the same time, the most plausible conspiracy would be that it was manmade, I mean all the other conspiracy surrounding it are kind of fucking, kind of cuckoo to me. Yeah, we'll get into those two, but yeah, I definitely think it was if I had a wing towards wanting to be more of the manmade, whether they did it purposely or accidentally.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I don't know Well, and that's where I think the like, the real conspiratorial thinking, gets interesting. It's like, okay, you know it's out there. We're not sure how it got out there, we're not sure what the intent was, but it's out there. But now that it's out there, there was massive conspiracy to cover up where it actually came from, which is why we're still talking about well, where did it come from? It seems like there should be some scientific consensus by now, but there's not, and that in itself is very strange.
Speaker 2:Well, it's China. I mean it's a communist country. That's why it took so long for them to let us know. If that would have happened in the States, I mean the whole world would have known in 12 hours what was going on, just because I mean we got to get, I firmly believe that the America would have told everyone else. Maybe not, I don't know. But I think that's part of the problem is why it spread so quick is because they didn't lock everything down right away. And I do understand it a little bit. Like you don't really know what it is. It can't shut down the whole country, but I think the communist part of it had a big role in why it took so long to for people to get notified of that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, like I mentioned earlier, when they got their first cases, it was basically the flu, but stronger. So I mean like why would they just necessarily come out and say, oh, it's stronger than the flu, it's going to be like a deadly fucking virus, you know, yeah, they still got to do their research on it, they got to run their tests.
Speaker 1:So I can understand where, like they didn't come out right away with it just because they probably just thought it was the flu, but at the same time, like waiting until like January to like tell the rest of the world like hey, this shit's fucking serious. It may have spread. I mean that's six.
Speaker 2:That's six weeks, right. You know from the initial what'd you say? Like sometime in mid-November or something.
Speaker 1:It was mid to late November.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if you're talking mid-November to January 1st, that's six weeks. That's a little too long to be like oh shit. People are dying like crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they, uh, yeah, and that I guess that would play into the conspiracy, like you were saying, chris, of like where it would come from. Because why even like, even say, if it was an accident, just be like? Why not come out and be like, hey, we fucked up, like this virus got out, like our bad, but hey, you guys should probably start taking precautions and shit Right. You know, instead of trying to have the Chinese government cover it up instead of telling the world and then America.
Speaker 2:America said oh wait a minute, hold my beer, I'm not going to wear a mask. I don't care if you told us or not.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, we're all dads, right. Like, how, how he's five, hold the mic, five, okay, oh, my youngest is five too. Um, like, I think it would be almost the same way with your kids, like if your kid broke something of yours and they came right up to you and were like, hey, I'm really sorry, I was doing something I shouldn't have and I broke this. You'd be like dude. All right, thanks for telling me, let's go clean it up. You know what I mean. Right, but it would have been the same thing with China.
Speaker 3:And there was this dude that was, um, he was, uh, it was on the UK version of 60 minutes. He was a Chinese ambassador from from England and he was saying that China had three weeks where they knew what was going on and were actively covering it up and suppressing the information from leaking out to people. And they said that, had they acted and just told everybody what was going on and tried to say like, okay, you know, we're shutting down travel, all this, that 95% of the COVID cases in the world wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 3:So, this massive suppression and cover up is almost maybe worse than like the fact that it just got out and somebody was playing God with some virus and not washing their hands when they left work or you know whoever. Whatever, it was Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Uh for sure. Like knowing three weeks in advance, like how serious like the virus is and just keeping it to yourself and not like telling the world, like waiting for spreads enough that you have plausible deniability.
Speaker 3:Well, it's everywhere. Who knows? It started here, maybe it started in your country, which is what they said, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they definitely, because they tried to get in, get the name of it to change to USA COVID or what was it.
Speaker 3:USA like.
Speaker 1:USA, covid, usa 19. But they tried getting like USA put into the name for the virus because they were claiming it came from us.
Speaker 3:That's good branding right there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like like you said, though, man, knowing three weeks in advance that how serious it is and not telling everybody just to cover it up, so you don't take the fall for this fucking deadly as virus, I mean, I think that's the heart of like the real conspiracy shit is just like everything that country did to say no, no, no.
Speaker 3:And like I read about this, a doctor, a Chinese virologist, who worked at the lab or well, allegedly worked at the lab she came out and started blowing the whistle, saying like, yeah, you know, I saw this and this and this, and we were doing these kinds of things to this thing to test it, and that's why it's so strong and infectious. And that lab came out and said, oh, she never worked here, that everything she's saying is false, she's just a crazy person. She never worked here. And then she's like I've got credentials I can show you. So it's almost like that. But have you guys talked about Bob Lazar and the Area 51 stuff on your show?
Speaker 1:I talked about Area 51 briefly. I did an episode on Aliens and of course Area 51 came up, but we haven't really touched. I haven't really touched up too much on Bob Lazar yet.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, they basically did the same thing to her. That happened to Bob Lazar, like you can find pictures and like official documents that show that he worked there. But if you go there and ask somebody, did he work here? Nope, are there any? Well?
Speaker 2:you can't find those on the internet anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, they, they, they scrubbed the internet.
Speaker 3:But he has actual credentials from well, he's got like phone books that show like where his office was and what his direct line was?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got all the information. But yeah, that guy's man, I'm surprised he's so wide.
Speaker 3:Somebody comes out of a lab and it's like you know the lab's not doing good stuff and the lab goes. That person's not an employee, wait huh. Right.
Speaker 2:Don't you know America's doing that shit, though, too, like I don't want to throw China completely under the bus because, like the plausible, you know, whatever the to say that we did it. I don't know if we would have done the right thing either If we would have been like not from us, like I don't know what's going on. I'm sure it's well Trump, china, it's China.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he called it the Kung flu. That probably didn't make any friends. I mean, if you're a comedian and you say that, that kills the room, but if you're the president and you say that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, our friendship with our friendship with China already was fucking rocky, and then Trump goes out and causes the kung fu.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't understand the relationship with China, Like they make all our stuff, Like. But yeah, there I would say there are number one enemy other than Russia. I would say that there are number one enemy. I mean, like you got to look out like if shit's going down, it's going to be with China.
Speaker 1:And it's been. It's been that way for years. I mean it's always been. Russia and China. That is against the US and shit like that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how Russia even has a military. What did they even produce other than vodka? Like they produce nothing. At least China's like pumping out like iPhones and like all that shit, but like Russia, you know they'll pay $500 for a pair of Levi's. I mean what?
Speaker 3:the hell. I don't know if it's still that bad, but oh, it's bad, I'm trying to think Well, definitely vodka, but good what else Good hockey players, good scientists, good mathematicians.
Speaker 2:I was watching a podcast review of some microphones and he talked about a mic. I don't know what it was and he's like this one's made in Russia. I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:What gets made in Russia?
Speaker 2:I was like I was shocked, I was like my jaw dropped. I'm like a microphone was made in Russia. There's probably bugs in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's like okay.
Speaker 2:I have a question before we move on. We talked about how, how COVID in the lab. So do you guys know anything about the Spanish flu, like how that became a pandemic which was way worse than COVID? I'm just curious because, like we're saying, it's in a lab, but how did the Spanish flu come about?
Speaker 3:Chris, Well, the Spanish flu that was, I'm trying to think the Spanish flu that, because I had some notes on the Spanish flu, but it wasn't specifically about that.
Speaker 2:I'm just curious about how it started.
Speaker 3:Yes, so the Spanish flu, that was 1918, which was that's World War, I right. So I think the. I think the movement of troops across the world helped spread that. But the funny thing, like you know, we were talking about well, china's blaming the US. The US is blaming China, people in England are blaming 5G, like in 1918, that's the next one we're going to talk about yeah.
Speaker 3:In 1918, people were saying that some somehow German submarines not the people in them, but German submarines specifically were responsible for spreading the Spanish flu. So I mean they picked the, they picked the country that everybody liked to hate the most, said it's their fault, specifically the U-boats. I don't know. What's crazy to me is that they had submarines in 1918. Dude. Leonardo da Vinci designed a submarine. I don't really ever got one to work. He designed a helicopter too, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:So you really don't know.
Speaker 2:You don't. You don't really know how the Spanish flu has made that.
Speaker 3:How it was actually made. No, no, no, no, no, no yeah. I don't either, like I mean how it actually started down. But if I had to guess and this is again, I went to college for English If I had to guess, it was just like some kind of crazy mutation and then, you know, it just spread. But I don't know.
Speaker 2:It says okay, I Googled it. Sorry. What caused the Spanish flu? The outbreak began in 1918. Good job, Chris, you got an A for that one. During the final months of World War I, and historians now believe that the conflict may have been partially responsible for spreading the virus. There's another gold star On the Western Front, soldiers lived in cramped, dirty, damp conditions became ill. Well, that doesn't tell me what started it. Oh, what animal did the flu come from? Oh, I'm getting in a I don't know. Oh, presented data support the hypothesis that the 1918 pandemic influenza virus was able to infect and replicate and swine, causing a respiratory disease, and the virus was likely introduced into pig population during the 1918 pandemic. It still doesn't help me. It's kind of got the lineage of classical H1N1.
Speaker 3:That's, the Muslims have got it right. Man, you don't need pork.
Speaker 2:I'm glad that's where you're going with that Like, oh God, are we going to have to dump this?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Justin's like hard at it, hard at it.
Speaker 1:It's like fucking over Another episode I can't publish, but no, we're good.
Speaker 2:But anyway, let's jump into the next one. Come on, Justin, lead us down the road.
Speaker 1:So the next one I have, like Chris mentioned, is the 5G conspiracy of Corona.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Me personally. I think this fucking conspiracy is outrageous.
Speaker 2:Outrageous.
Speaker 1:I don't see it.
Speaker 3:5g operates at the same frequency as your radio, so if 5G is causing can't Cancer, uh-oh.
Speaker 2:Oh, you started another one.
Speaker 3:I'm, I'm hello, I'm from the government, I'm spreading misinformation Great. So yeah, if 5g is causing this, then like people should have been getting this ever since radio is invented, so I don't buy it. But, dude, I again watching videos and I told you, listen about this too. It's really hard to find conspiracy theories like actual, like people promulgating conspiracy theories online. Every time you type in conspiracy theory for COVID, it's 20 websites about how to debunk and why you shouldn't pay attention to the conspiracies.
Speaker 2:But that's why you got to look it up on incognito mode. I told you that yeah or fortune.
Speaker 3:Oh, I gotta grab another beer. I'm gonna take a sip of this and try to remember what I was saying. No, no, I remember, but yeah. So I was watching this video and these. There's people all over the UK that are like setting 5g towers on fire and they're right, harassing the workers that just go and fix the lines, and these are guys that are making you know $15 an hour. They're outside in the elements like the last thing they need is some care and being like you're trying to kill my family.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, no. I came across some of these videos too of, like the UK burning down the towers. And then I saw another one of a Of these workers who were installing one, and a lady came up recording home. It's like hey, are you, are you putting in these 5g towers? He's like yeah. He's like she's like you know you're helping killing everybody. And then the guys just like yeah, the guys just like do my job, so I don't even know.
Speaker 2:I didn't even look into that one because as soon as I read it I was like this is complete bullshit, like I don't even want to spend my time on figuring how this would even work. I mean, why is it that that the LTE didn't kill us but the 5g? Or yeah, the LTE didn't kill us but the 5g will? I don't understand. It's like kind of the same thing is just right, or am I wrong on that, as LTE different than 5g? I don't know. I don't know either. I think it's just a faster network.
Speaker 3:I know less about that than I know about medicine.
Speaker 1:When I was looking into it, the they were basically saying 5g is basically no different than 4g. Okay it's almost it. They're almost identical to each other. It's, if I remember correctly, the only the the only real purpose for 5g is for better data Data.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's, that's basically, the only thing 5g differs from the 4g is you get better, better data. When I was also doing the research it, I came across something telling me like like the 5g with the, like the, the red radio waves, is Very similar to 4g and just your basic Wi-Fi connection. So okay, so if, if that was the case, we've had 4g's been out Long time, wi-fi's been out a long time it even date like Chris said, parts of it dated back to when the radio came out and what the 50s.
Speaker 1:Yeah, before that, I think before that, and then big solar flare that knocked out like all of the West Coast power was in, like the 1940s right. Right, something with like the the TV waves in your TV, so it. It matches with that. So, um, so, if any it's been, it's been more than a decade that we've had this stuff. So I mean, if 5g was really causing corona, why hasn't it caused it with all this other shit that we've had? Yeah, that, because it's basically similar to it.
Speaker 2:I did Google it. 5g is a hundred times faster than 4g. I'm like give me my 5g if it me now 10 gigabytes per second. Sign me up.
Speaker 1:Right, and it is. It is pretty fast because my cousin had that has 5g on his phone. And man, you look on it and you click on something and it fucking like right out, it was. Oh man it was right, it was nice, but um Just the fact that people think um because they're saying like the radiation from the 5g towers.
Speaker 3:We can your immune system. Yeah, and I Mean maybe maybe if you live under it right um, but I Don't know again. I'm no expert. I don't like to get drunk and talk shit.
Speaker 1:Right, I know I don't see radiation from these 5g towers, fucking, weakening our immune systems and giving us a virus.
Speaker 2:Well, well, I think it's probably not great to live under a tower like that, meaning I Don't think you're getting corona, but I can't say that I walk around when I do my walks and see these Huge electric just not even the cell tough stuff, but the electric wires and those huge towers, like I see houses under there, I'm like I don't know if I'd want to live under there. I'm not. I'm not sure I'm gonna get a virus, but that can't be good for you right, yeah it's gonna fuck with you somehow.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's gonna give you corona virus.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what else? So are the french fries a earlier today. That's gonna fuck with me too.
Speaker 1:That is true, but uh, yeah, and another. Another part of the conspiracy with the 5g is people. People are saying like the first 5g tower was actually put in Wuhan, china.
Speaker 2:No, really. Yes it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah the 5g towers go back to South Korea.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:South Korea first had them and then parts of the United States Started getting them back in May. So so people, people like oh Wuhan, got the 5g tower. That's where this all came from. It's the 5g towers, when really it wasn't the 5g towers. Korea had them and then you got. You got to look at if, if, 5g towers were causing corona. How come there's only 34 countries that have 5g towers installed, but the corona virus is in 211 countries?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that and that's exactly what doesn't make sense all those countries where they're like. For just five cents a day you can feed an entire family. In this poor country they don't have any towers. They're getting wrecked over there by those things.
Speaker 2:Right, oh, chris, it made me think of that. I had, as soon as you said that I Know that's the ASP a CA animal ones.
Speaker 3:That's the animal yeah.
Speaker 1:With a Sarah McLaughlin. Oh shit the fucking said puppy eyes oh.
Speaker 2:God, every time I can't watch those, like I don't have regular cable anymore, but back in the day when I did those, those fuckers would come on. I'd be like, no, change the channel. I'm gonna start crying, I'm gonna donate money.
Speaker 3:It works every time and everything about her tone of voice and the look on her face is like you don't have to give us money. I mean, if you're an asshole.
Speaker 1:Basically, yeah, it's like yes, it's not a big deal, don't don't, don't donate anything but your piece of shit, right if you don't your dirt bag. I will say I've never donated.
Speaker 2:I have not. No, I take that back. I take that back. I. I only, I only donated because it got me a sticker one night. I was probably drunk, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:Okay, donated for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love stickers. I'm obsessed with stickers. I don't know why, but yeah, I did donate 25 bucks. So there you go, sarah.
Speaker 1:So it was the first time Jason ever saw the commercial. They were offering free stickers. He got drunk, donated and then that after that he's like no, I got changed channel where I'm just gonna.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't do it. I'm gonna spend more money.
Speaker 1:But his first question every time he causes are you still giving out stickers?
Speaker 2:100%. If you're not fuck you, I'm done.
Speaker 3:No, but we've got this nice tote bag click.
Speaker 2:No, I don't even know damn tote bag. That's for the ladies.
Speaker 1:All right, oh, hey before we move off 5g, though.
Speaker 3:I just want to say there was one thing.
Speaker 2:Why are you looking around?
Speaker 3:Yeah, cuz I'm trying to remember and I feel oh look around and see it in my head. Um, I Think it was on John Oliver tonight and you can find those clips on YouTube. He was saying that, like if you think 5g is gonna give you coronavirus, that's like saying that the Flashlight on your iPhone is gonna give you a sunburn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good, good, I love John Oliver, it's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Obviously it's funnier when he says it right.
Speaker 2:I feel like I need. Before we move on, I need to add something Maybe that's not on the list for for A conspiracy theory. Is the vaccine now that that's so fresh, like people say that they're not gonna get? Is that?
Speaker 1:I'm actually what I'm gonna jump into next. Yeah, yeah awesome. Yeah, cuz, uh, because with the conspiracies really, um, the only ones I really came across was that it was man-made in a lab and Like, then, like the 5g I mean okay. I guess maybe because the world military games. No.
Speaker 3:Okay, so this is something that I dug and found, and Just doing the research, for this was the only time I've ever heard of this, so oh, oh wait, they had the world military games for 2019 in Wuhan, in Wuhan. Like weeks after that that the first case came out. So that's what, that's what China bio terrorism and try to really fuck with the military's strong militaries of the world.
Speaker 1:That could be. I did come across that because that's where China came out and said it was us who gave it to him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they said it was the military. Was China the US military?
Speaker 1:that argue that the US military brought it to China for that, and that's how it's. That's where they came up with the USA, covid, the name, or whatever. I forgot the name they came up with, but yeah now that you. Yeah, I do remember reading that and uh, that it was in Wuhan and that that's how China said that the US brought it to China.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I haven't heard of that but I'm starting to believe that seems a little legit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 3:And I mean, even if you wanted to go back to the lab thing, I only heard it on one source. It might have been the Joe Rogan show. So you know, take it with a grain of salt that the laboratory that the thing may have escaped from, that laboratory in Wuhan was actually an international laboratory Operating under a grant from the UK. Oh, that's like our number one ally right there too. So you want to. You want to blame China. You could blame China for maybe the loose, the, the lax protocols and safety precautions and stuff like that, but it was a UK based lab, allegedly interesting interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't see anything about that. Yeah, I tried to find.
Speaker 3:I tried to find more about that. If you try to look up information about the actual lab, it's tough, and just finding anything and I was, this is what I was telling Jason was, I feel like the cons. The conspiratorial thing right now is just they're trying to block any information to anything that's not official, like who CDC guidelines. If you type into Google the coronavirus is a hoax and Enter, you just get 10 pages of the coronavirus is not a hoax. This is why conspiracy theories are false. It's you know.
Speaker 2:But don't you think that's a good thing, though a little bit, I mean, I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 3:But I'm also believing free speech and like, if people are gonna be stupid, you can't like, you can't coddle adult Free US citizens too much.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because right like the thing that, like the thing that you guys have probably heard about this, early on in the in the pandemic, dr Fauci, the guy that everybody's like, he's our guy, that's the guy listen to him. He told people don't, don't worry about masks, it's it's not that important. We don't even know if they're that effective, it's not that big of a deal. And then later somebody said hey, you know, early on in this thing, like January, february, you told people not to buy masks. Was that a mistake on your part or what happened there? And he goes well, I stand by my decision. At the time. We were short and 95s for critical personnel, so we told people not to buy masks so that the people who needed them the most would have full access to the limited supply. So he basically said we straight up lied to the American people, told them that they don't need to do that. What is now the most fundamental thing? To protect yourself, so that we could protect health care workers and like from workers.
Speaker 2:I totally agree with that. I'm glad he did that because, honestly, sometimes you have to lie to the American. Yeah, I am, because you can't start like what? Look at this fucking shit that happens everyone you're fired.
Speaker 2:You're not my producer anymore. The fucking goddamn toilet paper. Like that's what happened. He's fucking Americans. They're like, oh, let's just get 17 packs of toilet paper. Why the fuck are you buying toilet paper If there's the shit is going down by fucking beans and rice? Like what are we doing here? So I'm glad Fauci Fauci did that. He was protecting the health care workers which we need if we're dead as hell. Your wife's a nurse. Wouldn't you want her to have an N 95 over like some jackass down the street? That you fucking. You're fucking neighbor right next door. That Trump loving motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe we could. Maybe, maybe we could see my thing, my thing on this. And, justin, stop us when everyone right my thing on that is like Just treat people like adults and if they make stupid decisions, then maybe it's time to rethink how we educate people in this country or something. But like you can't just treat people like babies and tell them simple little white lies.
Speaker 2:He's not treating us like babies.
Speaker 3:He's protecting the health care workers to us about how we can protect ourselves, because he thought we would take all the masks from the people who needed them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our president also grabs women by the pussy to. So I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker 3:Well, that's very adult behavior.
Speaker 1:You're son of a bitch. I'll jump in real quick. I clearly you two don't see eye to eye on this, this one, so I but what? I can see both sides of yours opinions on this, but again he's. He's telling us not to buy him because all the health care workers need him to be. But if this is a worldwide spread, pandemic.
Speaker 1:Why don't the rest of the country need the mask to? I mean, I understand the health care workers need him, but don't the normal every day of other American people need the mask to stay?
Speaker 3:alive, but I mean like the people that are treating the people that and they get that right.
Speaker 3:Both of our wives are actually nurses and they they were talking about this on one of our episodes that everything that people was telling them is like watch out, these hospitals are going to be overrun. You're going to be setting up tents in the parking lot, you're going to be setting up tents out behind the hospital. You might need to go to alternative spots and help treat other people like rent, and then that didn't happen. So, yeah, they were totally expecting the first wave to be like 10 times worse than it was.
Speaker 2:Now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't say that because, like in New York and Florida and LA it was legit, it was bad. But like, yeah, it just didn't hit the Midwest like they thought it would.
Speaker 2:You know I want to. I want to go back to Fauci real quick before we move on. It's okay. Like I always hate people that say, well, if you change your mind you're a phony right. Well, especially with this pandemic and this coronavirus, it's like it's evolving by the day. Like you, I'm sure I don't know if, if Rachel talks about it, but like they would, my wife would get emails daily that would change shit, like yesterday it was. This is how we're going to do it the next day. This is how we're going to do it.
Speaker 3:Wash your groceries. Don't wash your groceries.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. So you got to expect Fauci. I mean again, he did say that he did, but he knew he was telling people I know, I know and I actually appreciate his honesty.
Speaker 2:But you know I always hate people that that say that. You know, because I always leaned really far to the right growing up and in my early adult life. But I don't lean that way anymore and it's okay, because I've decided that this is not what I'm going to do. I'm going to say that this is not what I want to believe in anymore.
Speaker 3:So you just got to give people a little bit of grace. Yeah, you got to reserve the right to change your mind. But he changes mind, he just like. Well, again which just feeds into the conspiratorial thinking too. You know what I mean. Like oh well, if they could lie to us about something as simple as is a mask safe or not?
Speaker 2:Like no, because, because that's what I now if it was Trump saying that, yeah, but this guy's a scientist, he's a doctor, Like not to say there's not shady doctors, there are, but um, like the one who said that COVID is caused by, uh, demonic forces, or something like that. Well, that guy's needs some help. Anyways, sorry, Justin.
Speaker 1:No, you're good, but uh wasn't. Wasn't this the same doctor that Trump tried having fired yeah?
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, but this is like the go-to virologist for like 30 years.
Speaker 1:Right, but I my opinion is just kind of weird that, like I mean, he's he's telling us all this. He knows he lied to us. He had basically admitted to lying to us.
Speaker 3:So then, at the same time.
Speaker 1:Now he's right, and now Trump's trying to have him fired, and all this shit.
Speaker 2:Well, I think Biden. Biden said he was going to keep Fauci on, so I was pretty happy about that Okay.
Speaker 1:I didn't hear that. Yeah, nice.
Speaker 2:I'm fan Fauci.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the last thing I saw in the um. I didn't read it, I just saw something that said that, uh, they stopped the uh official transition process. They halted it temporarily for Biden?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't. I didn't really, I just moved the fuck on.
Speaker 3:God, it was probably from Buzzfeed or something like that. Buzzfeed.
Speaker 2:Inside edition oh man.
Speaker 1:All right, Anyways, we'll, we'll jump, we'll jump forward a little bit, Um, but yeah, like I mentioned, just like the world, the um made in a lab and like the 5g was like then the main conspiracies I thought saw about it. One other one I did see is that China purposely made this to eliminate the pop, the older people in the population.
Speaker 3:You know, and I've heard people that like try to downplay that one. I believe it. Why? I try to kill all the old people, because they're really bothering us and all the all the old folks homes that they're in, Like okay. But think about China, where there actually is a serious population problem. Serious, who would you get rid of first? Not, not the, not the um infant girls, Like they used to like they used to talk about back in the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but like no. Well, let's get rid of all the people that society has forgotten about.
Speaker 2:Right, it is odd. It is odd that it does affect old people the most, although they're the weakest. Everything affects old people the most. Yeah, like they're always going to be the weakest.
Speaker 3:I mean it's about you hear about like 90 year olds dying from bladder infections, you know yeah, I mean, it doesn't take much to kill old person.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, unfortunately, no, but uh, when I when I came across that, it did make me think I'm like I could believe that because, like, like we said, like they, they used to kill off their girl children the cut down on population and like so if they're willing to get rid of the their children who were born women, why wouldn't they get rid of old people, who are non-productive to society as as other? I'm not saying old people aren't productive because there are older people.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure.
Speaker 3:And it would fit. It does kind of fall in line too, because they had the the one child policy which I've heard people say like it was more of a suggestion than like you know, somebody will come knock on your door if you have more than one kid, but like yeah, that just.
Speaker 2:I think that helps feed into the did they really do the girl thing Like?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah. What I heard was that like yeah, that was it like more of a way, way, yeah, but still yeah, but still I mean they did it.
Speaker 1:It's a proven fact that they they used to do that too. They're if you. If you had a child and it was born a girl, they would get rid of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I read a time article where I think it was like in a dentist waiting office or someone's time. I read a time article where a journalist described in detail a woman gave birth and the doctor shook his head, said like it's a girl and they just put it in a bucket and drown it.
Speaker 2:Oh shit. Way to bring their room down, Chris.
Speaker 1:That's crazy yeah. You can edit that out. I'm I'm going to be honest, I'm probably going to keep it, but yeah that's fine. Yeah, I've never actually like looked into like stories of like these actually happening, but I do know for a fact, and it's been proven and it is a well-known fact, that yeah, every Chinese person but like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like more rural areas, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of the, a lot of the women babies who were born were killed off just because, just to help contain Chinese population, because they, they, they, they value a baby boy more than they did of the baby girl.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But the problem with that is like right now their, their population is like 60, 40. So you're going to have a bunch of dudes that are in competition, angry or just don't have.
Speaker 2:Well, either that or maybe like well, they're going to be alone in their closet for a while. I mean, let's just face it.
Speaker 3:Right, but I'm, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Maybe, but but yeah, when, when I came across that one, I was like I can actually see this kind of being true, like it doesn't. It wouldn't surprise me if that's how it came to be and what their and it sounds awful, but it's of all of them.
Speaker 3:That's probably the most realistic, but you know yeah.
Speaker 3:And here's um, this is the problem with having a science fiction writer on a drunk conspiracy show Like I've. I've thought about this before, like, okay, if I was going to write a book and I was going to have all this play out the way that it was, I would have COVID be like the um, the first part where, like you know, you got, you introduce everybody to this part, and then, when you introduce the second part, that's the part that really fucks it. So then, like you introduce COVID, that changes everybody's RNA and that makes them susceptible to the next thing that you do. Like I don't know, I don't know, that's a really half baked novel idea. I should have thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was pretty half baked, I liked it. I didn't.
Speaker 3:Thanks, I'm going to send you. I'm going to send you my first draft.
Speaker 2:I read it it sucks. No, I'm kidding Chris.
Speaker 3:I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:No, you sent us the first chapter, I think.
Speaker 3:Hey man, hey man, that's rough. I actually got a rejection letter today, so hey, at least you're putting it out there.
Speaker 2:I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Thanks brother.
Speaker 1:You got to lose some to win some.
Speaker 3:That's right. So you only need one spectacularly to succeed spectacularly.
Speaker 2:You only need one. Yes.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true, but but anyways, yeah, those, those are the only conspiracies really. I came up with the virus itself but, like we mentioned earlier, the vaccines. I found found a few with the vaccines and we'll jump into those. I probably said that the first one would be putting a chip in us, Like like, because they want everyone to get the Corona vaccine and they claim to have a micro trip that's going to be planted inside of us where they can track us at all times.
Speaker 3:Well, some people were already even doing like. They wanted some people to test out, like a watch or something, and they wanted to like or no, no, no, no. It wasn't a watch, it was. They wanted people to download a that was in China, right. They wanted people to download an app where they could all right, hold on, I'm just hold on, Take a deep breath. This is what happens when you give a guy with severe ADD too many drinks. All right, so like I'm done, he's recording.
Speaker 2:He's recording. You mean they wanted to download an app so they could track them Okay.
Speaker 3:No, that's right, that's right, okay, so.
Speaker 2:Oh, I brought it back.
Speaker 3:Yep. So they wanted people to download this app that would track them 24 seven, and there was even one college in America that said that students would not be allowed to enroll unless they downloaded this app that tracked them 24.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that was a Michigan college wasn't it.
Speaker 3:It might have been. It might have been like Albion or something. I'm sorry, albion College if it wasn't.
Speaker 2:Oh no, it was a private college, it wasn't a public university. I do remember that. Yeah, and then it was a. Thing too.
Speaker 3:Like people were like I'm not, I'm not going to go to school here anymore.
Speaker 2:Why? Why wouldn't you, though, like I, have the contact tracing app on my phone.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Where it doesn't track me, but it just to let a stranger know where you are at all times. Oh, that's what it was. You're right, no, I?
Speaker 3:would never let that happen. 99% of the time you sleep at this house. But now you're sleeping at this house. What are you doing over there? Like whore business that's how it gets spread. Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I've been sitting at something like that, but I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about a company who was actually like, if you to get hired by this company, you had to implant a chip into your arm.
Speaker 2:Who would do?
Speaker 3:that I mean, somebody would, but not me.
Speaker 1:And that that chip got you like into the bit. It got you access to the building and everything you did Like. You know how you have key like some some places you have key cards and do that. They actually implant chips into you where, like, everything goes through that chip.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess, for the right price.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I I can't remember the company. I'd have to look more into it but I remember hearing it on a podcast.
Speaker 3:It may have been Joe Rogan's podcast, actually too but it sounds like it might be one of them. Yeah, who's talking about doing stuff like that?
Speaker 2:Alex Jones.
Speaker 3:Alex.
Speaker 1:Jones, yeah, yeah, no, it was weird.
Speaker 2:Do you think in a hundred years our grandkids will listen to this? Like look at those fucking idiots. Like the chip's fine. Like look at all the shit we get to do with this thing we don't have to take our credit card out and like what a bunch of dumbasses. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, like, like people who are like television is going to be the end of society.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie I love using Apple pay at the register. I'm just not going to lie. Like not taking my card out, especially during coronavirus, when you're trying not to touch everything. Like just putting my phone over the little whatever that little box is, and it runs your card. I'm like this is amazing. I mean maybe we'll even have a chip before we're dead, guys. I mean I'm just saying it could happen.
Speaker 3:That would be cool. Like I'm kind of I'm down for embracing more simple, intuitive technologies like that, because what we should have? Started this podcast 20 minutes sooner than we did, but I couldn't get my microphone to work.
Speaker 2:Right, right. I mean if Apple came out with a microchip, I mean I'm an Apple guy because I trust them. They're really stringent on privacy, like they don't give the cops shit. You know what I mean when they call. I mean better than Android, chris. Better than Android. It's like the fucking Wild West. I mean, at least with Apple it's. I mean, yeah, it is a lockdown, but if Apple said, hey, if you get this chip in you, you won't have to like take your phone out for any kind of payment, you won't take your credit card out, you just walk through the door. You're just like beep, beep. Like that I might do it.
Speaker 1:If it was that, yeah, I don't know, I'm still iffy on it, though I don't want, I don't want chips in it.
Speaker 3:You host a conspiracy podcast. I wouldn't expect you to be the first guy to jump in line for it.
Speaker 1:Right and I mean. I joke about this too, but I know I'm on a list somewhere. There's 100%.
Speaker 2:There's no way with my browser history that I am not on a list somewhere, so but I mean, if the government came to me and said, hey, we want you to put this chip in, I'd tell them to go eat a dick. But if Apple is like hey, this can make your life easier, I might consider it.
Speaker 1:But don't you? Don't you think, our government could probably work with Apple on that, though?
Speaker 2:I think that in 2020, I don't think that's, I don't think they're there yet, but I don't I'm not saying down the road they couldn't be like sell out to the government. I fully believe that.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know, man, I could see, I could see the government contacting Apple today and being like, hey, let's work out this deal where, like you, give all your these people chips, like they can access all their Apple accounts and stuff like that, but the government can track every movement of whatever what they're doing, even though they already do that now with our phones and shit like that.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I mean, what are the?
Speaker 3:instances where Apple has actually worked with the government and like provided information on their users, even though they say that they don't do that kind of thing, that there's been instances where the FBI is like give us this information. They're like okay.
Speaker 2:How do you? You can't just fucking throw that out there and not have any proof.
Speaker 3:You're my producer, look it up.
Speaker 2:I'm also drunk too, so like what the hell I? I just tried to Google something and I spelled every word wrong, so I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 3:Look at it.
Speaker 1:I don't even know how microphones work, bro, but but with a lot of that too, it they probably get subpoenas for Apple to have to give them the information.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't understand when Johnny Law comes crashing down. There's not much you can do, right.
Speaker 2:Oh, man, that oh, but yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the whole, the whole getting back into it the whole microchip and the vaccine. I mean it's crazy, but at the same time I could somewhat believe it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yes and no, I mean I don't think we're at the point where a microchip is so small that it can float through your body and work. I mean, I think I mean, look at the dogs. My dogs are microchipped. It's like in the back of their shoulder blades. You know what I mean. So it identifies them. I think we're there, but I mean something in a vaccine that's just going to float around your bloodstream. That's to crack.
Speaker 1:You seems a little yeah, cause to be able to flush the chip through a needle, right, I mean it's, it's. It's a hard to believe that they could get a chip like that now.
Speaker 2:I don't know they could. Yeah, have you seen if you have a dog, if you've had it microchipped, have you seen the needle that goes in there? It's not, it's huge.
Speaker 1:It's like it's a big big ass, I think our cat is actually, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why they try to do it when they're like spaying or neutering them, because they're already under anesthetic, because it's not a comfortable shot in the back of the neck. So just yeah, it's big. So that's why the mic it needs that tube for the microchip to go down.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't. We could have that technology now, though, because, like I, I do know. I mean my opinion of me saying I do know is that our technology, that we have now, our government and our military are like 10 years, 10 years and over advanced of what we have out now.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, like so I totally agree. So I mean who's?
Speaker 3:this huge on the on technological advancements. Neil DeGrasse Tyson has a whole YouTube video about he's like if it wasn't for the military we wouldn't have shit.
Speaker 1:Right oh wow, so we're in 2020 now. So who's to say 10 years from now, in 2030, that we don't have that small little chip that could be pushed through a syringe?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean I like I said I'm 50, 50 on it, I could, I could believe it. And then again I could be like no, I don't think we're quite there yet, but like I said I do, I do know. Right. So I mean, I feel like it's possible, I feel like we probably could have the technology now, but would we use it now?
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing If the government actually put a chip in you right now, in 2020, and everyone found out because the internet, do you not think there would be a fricking revolution on the government? I mean, yeah, they would kill us all. But we would be like oh, this is it. Like I just don't think they would do it, just due to the fact that everyone would revolt, be like oh, this is not fucking happening.
Speaker 3:Like all they would have to do is be like the president wasn't born here or the president was born here, and then the president gets a P done by Russian hookers and then like everybody's- like oh, forget everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I guess Taylor.
Speaker 1:Swift came out the new album.
Speaker 3:We forget it all Like okay, that's, that's one of the things they talk about with conspiracy theories around. All this is like they call it the infodemic and all these people who are like that's that, and Neil Patrick Harris thinks it's this, and John Cusack thinks it's that and it's. You just start getting all these like influential people that people just want to like and like. Oh well, you know, if some gorgeous person with a six pack says that it's this, then I believe it Right.
Speaker 2:No, you just want to sleep with them.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, like you're saying, but like going back into the 5g real quick. Look at all those celebrities who came out about the 5g Woody Arrelson, the R&B singer, kerry Hillson, john like did John Cena.
Speaker 3:John Cena did a misinformation correction video where he takes his shirt off while he's talking.
Speaker 1:Of course, but but no, yeah, I saw it's important to.
Speaker 3:He's unbuttoning his shirt slowly. He's like it's important to check your news sources and make sure that you have multiple sources that all agree on things, as he's pulling the shirt off.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, he's sexy as AF.
Speaker 1:Right, that's what I like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Woody.
Speaker 1:Arrelson and Kerry Hillson both came out on like their their social media platforms about how 5g is bad and it's bad Well look at Jenny McCarthy.
Speaker 2:I have an autistic son and she came out and spread all the anti-vaxx shit with you know, vaccines called autism. And I'm like you are a dumb, fucking bitch, like I'm sorry You're stupid. And then they're like oh yeah, by the way, the doctor that I got that information from he lied.
Speaker 3:I'm like you don't really spin disbarred.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like probably in a prison cell somewhere, who knows? But God, who believes? But who believes celebrities anyways? When they talk, I'm like, yeah, you're beautiful and you're hot, but that's, that's where it ends for me.
Speaker 3:You're a good looking person with a very singular talent, and it's not science, it's not science.
Speaker 1:But, unfortunately enough, a lot of people do follow these celebrities. I mean that and that was a whole that. Like doing my research for this, it was telling me like a couple of things, that's all it's like. It's like don't always listen to celebrities, like they don't know, don't believe them just because of who they are, and shit like that, and I agree with that 100%. Like what is Woody Arrelson and Kerry Hilsson know about fucking 5G and coronavirus. Yeah, I mean?
Speaker 3:what do you?
Speaker 1:hear One's an actor, one's a singer, like just do your job and leave that shit to scientists.
Speaker 2:Yeah to professionals. You do you and they'll do them.
Speaker 1:If you want to speak out about it, like make sure you really fucking fact check it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got billions of dollars like hire somebody, be like, hey, can you look this out, like I really believe this. And if they come back and say that's bullshit, then shut your mouth and just move on.
Speaker 1:Like all right, I'll delete this tweet I have saved so I don't post it, like I mean dude.
Speaker 3:that's why I loved it when Ricky Gervais hosted the Golden Globes this last time he gets all his opening monologue was like when you win an award tonight, come up here, thank your agent, thank your God and fuck off. Nobody wants to hear your political beliefs, your fullest, your philosophical beliefs. Just say thank you and go away.
Speaker 1:Yeah that was the best dude he like in go and going into it. He was just like. You know what. It's the last time I'm ever hosting this, fuck it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you gotta be in his hand. He's like who cares?
Speaker 2:I love that guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, I watched that shit and I was just like, oh my God, like just the reactions on everyone's faces in the crowd are like is he really fucking saying this right now?
Speaker 2:That's like my spear.
Speaker 1:Where he looks like this, he's all yeah, dude, his Twitter account is fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:I don't follow my needs.
Speaker 1:Oh, you need to live to fuck with people. He does not give a fuck and I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's good. He was in the office, right, he was the early at the British.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he was in the British version of it.
Speaker 3:Him and one other dude. They created that show and he was the original like boss character.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Really, I've never watched the British version of it.
Speaker 3:Dude you get how to watch the British version. Is it good?
Speaker 2:I'm such a fan of the American version, Sam not.
Speaker 3:Okay, the first two seasons of the American office is all ripoffs, like when they put Jim's. Jim puts Dwight Stapler in Jello. That comes straight from the UK version.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the I'm not a big fan of the office, it gets its own.
Speaker 2:You're not, justin. Oh, we can't be friends.
Speaker 1:But I watch it because my wife fucking loves it.
Speaker 2:Love your wife.
Speaker 1:I don't even know where I love her my wife puts it on is like one of those background shows.
Speaker 3:Yeah, his wife is dope. She's been on a couple episodes too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she, she's been on like three episodes of mine but yeah, she's awesome. But like, see, I'm, I'm, I like to parks and wreck more than I like to the office.
Speaker 2:Well again, how can you not like the office if you don't like parks and wreck? It still has that awkwardness like it.
Speaker 3:That's kind of there's the same executive directors same show, I same same dude that did the good place too, and I love that show.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, I get that, but at the same time I feel like you got to choose one you know you're you're, you're at the office or your parks and wreck I just. I lean more towards parks and wreck.
Speaker 3:I choose parks and wreck, but I say fuck that entire season where Leslie nope was running for office that.
Speaker 2:I hate the final season when when him at her and Nick Offerman at why can't I think of his real name or Ron Swanson. Ron Swanson yet why they fought so bad. It really hurt my heart that last season when they were like fighting, I'm like this is not real life, this is bullshit.
Speaker 3:Like they love each other.
Speaker 2:But no.
Speaker 1:I think I lean more towards parks and wreck because of Ron Swanson's. His character yeah that's who I want to be when I'm that, when I get that age.
Speaker 2:That's sort of a bitch.
Speaker 3:Girl. He's like this is how taxes work. Give me your sandwich. I'm the governor.
Speaker 1:Like I just Nick offers. Nick Offerman in itself is a phenomenal actor, but him in parks and wreck was just fucking.
Speaker 2:He was brilliant, it was he builds those canoes in real life like he's a real life. What are like? He's such a badass and him and Megan ball, lylee or whatever are married like Tammy one. Right, it was Tammy one. Is this why? Oh god yeah so I'm ease that's we complete side track there, justin.
Speaker 1:No, you're good it happens. So I mean it's a drinking podcast, so like right right, right right right. I'm not worried about it. But uh, yeah, we're with the chips and shit like that. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I mean I'm 50 50 with it. I could see it. I could see it happening and I could see it not happening now, agreed, agreed. I I do believe in the future, though, like they're gonna try to micro chip all of us so they can keep a better Control on us.
Speaker 2:Well, what I've come from this is basically I love Apple and if Apple wants to chip me, I'm gonna be the first in line, like every time I can listen to the drunk conspiracy podcast through my fillings in this chip In my arm, then, like I'm gay, you want to hear some crazy. Justin, are you an iPhone or Android guy?
Speaker 1:I'm an iPhone guy.
Speaker 2:Okay, chris has an iPhone 5. Yeah an iPhone 5.
Speaker 3:My oldest kid is a freshman in college. I got it when she was in middle school.
Speaker 2:I mean, I Can't even fathom that. Like it blows my mind that that motherfucker still works. That's how you know Apple's good. If you had an Android phone that old, that thing would be a piece of shit.
Speaker 3:Hey man, I got a message from you, but I can't open it. What did you say?
Speaker 2:Get a new phone, at least upgrade.
Speaker 1:I will say, though, my, my iPhone is only a seven.
Speaker 2:And it works fine.
Speaker 1:Right, it does yeah but again if you have like a newer one, though, but I've always I've always had problems with androids, you know? Oh, look at that little baby phone. Yes, you know, I need a bigger phone, so that's why I want to upgrade.
Speaker 3:I hate it. Yeah, hers is. Hers is a monster compared to mine.
Speaker 2:I used to upgrade every two years, but now it's it's gotten so expensive. I try to ride mine out, not as long as Chris, but like every four or five years I get an upgrade. But damn, an iPhone 5, I mean, it's actually quite impressive, chris.
Speaker 3:Well, you know what the funny thing is? I'm sticking hard to it too, because my daughter got a phone and my wife said you know, if you want to get a new phone, We'll just give her your old one and you can get a new one. I said I kind of like my old one. She can have the new one.
Speaker 2:I love that you're where like a bad genot badge of honor. That's pretty bad. I have a phone.
Speaker 3:5 people look at me. They're their. Their eyelids disappear. They're just like huh.
Speaker 1:See, see, I have metro. So like if I want a new phone I have to straight out buy the new phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, we have to. Yeah, well, that's that's kind of how like it is now, they don't do the the 200 dollars. You get a phone Like I bought my. I think I have an iPhone Xs or whatever a max. I paid like 42 bucks a month for that fucker. Like I didn't pay cash for it. Like I had to, I have to make payments on it's a thousand dollar phone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, some people's Phone payment is like a car payment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is crazy, but but if I could make a payment on it I'd probably upgrade it. But with metro you do have to. Outright buy it they don't you see options.
Speaker 2:Uh, have you tried Xfinity mobile? Do they do payment options?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I have to look at it because we have X, we have Xfinity internet, so yeah, if you have Xfinity internet, we're switching Slowly over to the mobile because it uses Verizon towers and it's dirt, cheap, dirt.
Speaker 3:It's 5g towers and you're gonna get Corona.
Speaker 2:Oh, whoa, Whoa right that radiation. I'm out. If it's 5g towers, I'm going back to cricket or something.
Speaker 3:Cricket on those 5g towers. They're like oh you know, well, here's a map of all the 5g towers and here's a map of coronavirus.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, they all have connection right Now.
Speaker 3:Here's a map of the general population and here's a map of all the pizza hut locations in america. They're all the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that went in. Uh, I, I, I didn't see something like that. And they, they could do that same thing with like McDonald's. Yeah, yeah it's just all population.
Speaker 3:It's just all population.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then another one was ICP fans. What the f? Yeah, I should, I shouldn't you not? I swear to god. Doing the research, it was like, yeah, you can overlap like the pizza hut, the mcdonald's, and they're like even the, the juggalo fans. And I'm like, oh my god, even though I, I solely believe, there are only ICP fans in the state of michigan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I totally agree faggot for life.
Speaker 3:Right here.
Speaker 2:Here's a conspiracy.
Speaker 3:What was that one song lyric? What is a juggalo? We got a two-liter afego hanging out his butt cheeks.
Speaker 1:What? I'm not that big of a fan, so I couldn't tell you either.
Speaker 2:But it sounds like a lyric they would write.
Speaker 3:It is a girl in high school that all she ever wore was icp T-shirts and she would like paint her face a couple times a month and I was like, what do you like about this band? She's like. And she was like they got lyrics like two liter afego hanging out your butt cheeks. I was like, oh okay.
Speaker 2:What I was going back and say. Here's a real conspiracy how we fucking ate pizza hut. Back in the day I thought it was good pizza and like now, 2020, or not even 2020 20 years ago I was like this is the biggest piece of shit pizza I've ever eaten in my life. Now I'm an adult. Fuck pizza hut like this is the right world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I used to love it as a kid right back in the day you go to pizza hut, hit up the buffet man.
Speaker 3:Especially, you read a book, your teacher would give you a coupon for a free.
Speaker 2:Yes, personal pizza, bro, personal paying pizza.
Speaker 1:Although back back when I lived in Tennessee, though, I worked at a pizza buffet in arcade called mr Gaddys.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I I always just ate that pizza because I could. I got it for free.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh man, man and I ate pepperoni off the off the cooking line, just like it was going out of style. I think I gained 15 pounds the first month I was working there in high school. Which company little Caesars oh little Caesars.
Speaker 2:I don't mind little Caesars, I'm not gonna lie like it's not the best, but it's better than pizza hut.
Speaker 3:But for six bucks.
Speaker 1:Hell, yeah, bro, yeah, all day.
Speaker 2:Feed a whole family for six bucks.
Speaker 3:I got a family. I have six people. I can get two pizzas feed my whole family for 12 dollars.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:It's not bad.
Speaker 1:I only got three people, so it's not bad, but anyways, jump it back into it real quick.
Speaker 2:Yep, oh man, you're gonna have to edit so much shit out.
Speaker 1:I probably won't. I like it. This is good, so okay.
Speaker 2:I don't care, I just I always feel bad when I, when I digress, I was like ah shit, we're way off topic.
Speaker 1:If people want to listen, they're gonna listen. If they don't want to listen, they're not gonna listen. I mean right, I mean I'm at 10 episodes. I'm four months in. I have a. I just hit over 1200 downloads. Okay so, like I feel like I'm good, I don't like, like I said, I'm new. I'm more new to podcasts. I've only been doing it for four months, but I feel like, with 10 episodes, four months, 1200 plus Downloads, I feel like it's doing decent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean so, like I said, they listen, they don't if they. They stop at this point when we started talking about like fucking pizza and the office, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, well, yeah as. Long as I listen to my my take on the office. I. I hate you, justin, that you don't like it, but I love wife.
Speaker 1:I won't say I don't like it, I just prefer parts of wreck at least you like Rack it has grown on me though, because I used to I wouldn't, I would never watch the office, I wouldn't. And then my, when I met my wife, she put it on and stuff. I'm like, oh, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2:It is funny, it's so awkward. Sometimes it's like I've watched some of those episodes so many times. It still makes me super uncomfortable and some of that shit. I'm like I know this is acting, but this is so weird and do right like.
Speaker 3:I read a study that said that shows like that and curb your enthusiasm. That make you feel just really cringy. Yeah, take time off of your life. Like what feeling of awkwardness like reduces your lifespan.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm gonna be dead next week.
Speaker 1:Anyways, another, another conspiracy with the vaccines is that it's going to alternate alternate our dna. Yes yeah, which I mean? I've I've seen conspiracy theories about other things, about dna and just like. So I mean Could what, what do you guys think about it alternate? Like you get the vaccine, it's going to alternate our dna.
Speaker 2:Uh, honestly, I don't think the science is there enough to alternate our dna. I don't think that's even possible right now. I mean, maybe I'm being naive when I'm saying that, but I don't think they can inject something in you that's gonna change your dna. To be honest with you, right.
Speaker 3:Well, the weird thing about the disease itself is that it actually mutates your RNA, and I don't know nearly enough about RNA DNA to like speak scientifically or Smartly about it but they're very different from each other.
Speaker 2:They're very different.
Speaker 3:They are, I will say that, but like, the disease actually changes the makeup of your body at like a very small molecular level. Um, so To think that the vaccine, to be effective, might need to do the same thing, like it doesn't seem that far out that it could, you know, get in there and actually like Maybe not like on a surface level, like you notice the way that you feel, or whatever, but like that it could get in there and mess up your dna sequence, your RNA, or something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, the strange part. Yeah, the strange part of it is is why we've, why the fuck are we even talking about it? We are not scientists Like I don't do that for a living, like Right.
Speaker 3:I show.
Speaker 2:I show french fries and monster energy drink in my fucking big mullet like, like, why am I even questioning, why this? I mean I'm going to take the vaccine. I trust that these scientists now, if the government came out of the vaccine, I would say fuck you. Like I'm not gonna lie. I would be like I don't think I can do it. But Pfizer, I mean they made viagra. For god's sakes. I mean, look at that. Change the world. Like, give me that fucking vaccine.
Speaker 3:You know what that's interesting that you mentioned that, and it wasn't Pfizer that was bear Um oh, chris has got his head down. That's, I'm looking at my notes. I'm not passing. Oh, I was gonna say go blackout hobby.
Speaker 3:Um, no one of the? Um. Was it cholera? One of these? I got it written down somewhere. One of the one of these big pandemics, though from history people said that it was bear aspirin. That um, um, the, the company had tainted the medicine in order to spread this disease around the people. What Really? Oh shoot, I got it written down somewhere. Hold on.
Speaker 2:We'll wait. We'll awkwardly wait.
Speaker 3:That's very interesting, though I I haven't seen anything about that but, yeah, this is where I this idea that people like blame Uh, a medicine company this is. This is not new.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing is, with a medicine company, they're for profit, right. So why what medicine company would would go out there and fuck with everyone I mean, unless the government paid them an obscene amount of money to do it. But like other than them making a mistake, why would they go out of their way to be like, yeah, we're gonna spread this by doing this. It just it's not good business for them, because then they're it's gonna come back on them that they fucked up.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, unless you think about it, though. If this thing never goes away and people just need to get a vaccine forever now, in perpetuity. Like the flu vaccine like the flu vaccine, like smallpox, like uh. Well, smallpox is a one, and done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, actually, no, you know what I might be thinking different, because I was in the military. I had to get a smallpox vaccine where they took a needle that had the the like the vaccine on it and they poke you in the arm a bunch of times and then it ends up leaving this. Scar looks like somebody put a cigarette on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mine's right on one of my tattoos. It's great.
Speaker 1:That, that that is very interesting, though. I mean, I could see the government going to a pharmaceutical brand and being like, hey, we're gonna pay you X amount of money, I do this, and really now and then.
Speaker 3:I could, I could see it 500 years You'll be delivering vaccines, but here's the problem.
Speaker 2:No one can keep a fucking secret, like the whole 9-11 conspiracy thing, like everyone's, like oh 9-11 was the inside job. No one can keep a secret. That's bullshit. It was not an inside job.
Speaker 1:Can I say one thing on that? We differ from that one.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:My thing on that is you don't have to take away the evidence, you just have to put out enough concurrent wrong things.
Speaker 3:misinformation is Very powerful tool, so like if aliens land and they go oh shit, aliens landed, there's such thing as alien life. Then all they'd need to do is be like, oh yeah, and it was. Uh, it looked like a frisbee and they had big green heads and they can talk without Talking and like, oh oh yeah, no, no. Now everybody sees these weird little spinning discs and green aliens with big heads all the time. Maybe that's all misinformation and there's a nugget of truth somewhere Deep down inside and they just built all this misinformation so you don't know what to think right, hmm, interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's. That's. That's at the heart of like almost any conspiracy is like you don't need to disprove something, you just need to give enough false alternates. True.
Speaker 2:Son of a bitch, chris.
Speaker 1:But but yeah, I mean I I guess I could see them doing it to alter our DNA and shit like that, but I just don't. I I don't see what they benefit from alternating on the DNA.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, what's the end game, right Unless it?
Speaker 3:was to like, kill all the old people. Or like, maybe like put in some genetic marker to like Me, so that when people get pregnant they have more girls. Or boys the you and in gender yeah. Like yeah, I just I don't see there in that experiment to try to, to try to swing things back to normal Right.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3:No and that's why everything, everything, everything to me, points to it was an accident and then it was just a big shameful thing that they didn't want to admit to. Not that there's some D devious shit, it was just we made a big mistake. We don't want to own it. That's why, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I agree, I agree but one.
Speaker 1:One more of the vaccine, though, is um. Excuse me, I read that like. They're like oh, another conspiracy of the vaccine is you get the? You get the vaccine, it's gonna give you COVID.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's just well. I mean, people say the same thing about the flu. I mean it's kind of. You know, I got the flu vaccine and then I got sick right away. So why should I take the flu vaccine? Because you'll have a reaction to the vaccine. That's like your body and your antibodies jumping in yeah, starting in, yeah so, like it's normal to get a little sick Well, I think for most what they do with the vaccines.
Speaker 1:What they do with the vaccines is they actually do put a little of that disease into the vaccine. Yeah it's known that they do that like like, say you're getting a flu shot. If you're getting a flu shot, you are getting the flu in Injected into you a lot of it's like a dead strain of it and then you're making.
Speaker 3:Make, because that's what you bodies by Learning to interact with this dead strain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right because because, like you were saying about the like getting a flu shot and all that, I had never. I had never gotten a flu shot before One year. I was at the doctors. They're like, hey, we have the flu shots, do you want it? And I was like, sure, why not? I ended up getting the fucking flu After getting a flu shot. I've never had a flu shot since and I've never had the flu sense.
Speaker 3:Well, one thing and this is my wife talking through me right here, because she says I've heard her say this to people when you get the flu shot, you're getting a shot that will protect you from a specific strain of the flu. So you could still get a more mild strain of it, but you're getting protected from the one that will fucking kill you, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've heard the same.
Speaker 1:But but yeah, I've read many like articles and stuff like that, saying like when you, when you get a vaccine of something, that actually does yeah, that it actually does have some of it in you. So I don't I mean so like for people to say like, oh, I'm gonna get a COVID-19 vaccine, it's gonna give me COVID. Well, yeah, they got to put it in, they got to put a little bit of it in you, for your money to react to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to be able to build that immune to it so you can block it. So I mean For me.
Speaker 3:I think that's what they're called. You got to build up those, yeah the T cells.
Speaker 1:So for me that that conspiracy of the vaccines easily debunked. I mean yeah, it's a known fact that they put, they put it in the vaccine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the facts, all the vaccines are like that. That's just the point of it. So your body feels immune to you, like the antibodies. Like I asked my wife to, if, if, if you did get COVID Already and you you know you're done with it and you've had the antibodies, do you still get the vaccine? And they did say that they did recommend that you still got the vaccine.
Speaker 3:I thought yeah, they don't know how long your T cell immunity lasts, although they sure people from some of those SARS outbreaks from 17 years ago still have T cell immunity.
Speaker 1:But oh, wow things.
Speaker 3:So they don't know if it's gonna be like that and it's. You know, they can only go back a little over a year if they can find patient zero. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Hmm, that's interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like I said, I mean that that one's. I mean I don't really listen to that conspiracy, just because If you know anything about basic science or Vaccines, I mean yeah, and hold weight like if you're gonna jump on it.
Speaker 3:That's not the one, yeah yeah, that's not the one.
Speaker 3:Right, but you know it's funny though, because, like I actually wrote like funny at the top of this list of notes that I have that Several times when there was different pandemics in place, you had people blaming it on weird shit, like the 1889 Russian flu. People said that the problem was electricity. Electricity gives people the flu. In 1832 there was a cholera outbreak, that said, and people said that the cholera outbreak was just a hoax put on by doctors who wanted to kill people so they could study their dead bodies, because Studying cadavers had just become a thing.
Speaker 2:So this shit's been going on for a couple hundred years.
Speaker 3:And people were like I don't know if we should be studying dead bodies. And then they brought that into play in 1918. They blamed on the German submarines. And then in the early 90s, the guy who was the South African president it wasn't Nelson Mandela, but, um, a different guy, I can't remember his name and I didn't write it down said that AIDS was not caused by sexual transmission and and said that he would refuse all government aid from other countries because the CIA was plotting to Fake some new disease so that they could sell other governments a vaccine for something that didn't exist.
Speaker 3:Wow, a couple months later, like people in his country, just started dropping like flies, but yeah, it's a long history of people being like oh, no, no, no, somebody's lying to us about this right, so I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's clearly going back centuries that yeah about this shit so.
Speaker 3:Well, one of those pandemics to people said it was the Jews were poisoning people's wells at night and that's why people read that might have been the plague. The plague. People were blaming the Jews and saying that they were poisoning Public wells at night and that's why people were getting sick.
Speaker 2:Oh, judas Priest.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a little far-fetched.
Speaker 3:Yes, it is but I mean, you know, and now? Now the common equivalent of that is like people burning down 5g towers. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just I Don't know. But uh, all right, to wrap it up, final takes, final thoughts, um, your final thoughts on the Corona virus and what. What do you guys think actually happened with the, the crowd? How do you think it actually came about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. My final thoughts is is you know, on a personal level, while I like talking about this conspiracies, I do feel I do know it's real. I Take precautions, I do everything I'm supposed to do just to get this shit done with so we can move on with our life. And I think, out of all the conspiracies I I go back to the China one that it was well, not China, but like it was created in a lab, and I'm standing by that one. I'm gonna ride or die. I think it was created in a lab but it was not released Viciously. I think it was just someone fucked up right, chris, I Agree.
Speaker 3:I think that it was something that was man-made. Whether it was nefarious intent, I don't know, I doubt it, but I think that it just got out of a lab or, you know, maybe somebody in the military, from who knows what military, actually did bring it to the world military games, because you know that we've got the past example of the Spanish flu being, you know, exacerbated by troop movements. So I don't know if there's some, maybe it's a little bit of a reach, but there's some historical precedent for that. But yeah, I'm leaning on man-made and accidentally accidentally released.
Speaker 2:Tough to say that, isn't it? When you're drunk, say anything this late at night, and yeah right.
Speaker 3:Right, much good whiskey.
Speaker 1:And yeah right, yeah, I'd have to say I definitely believe in the virus. It's. It's a real thing, it's. I don't think it's fake. I, I like I personally know people who have had the virus. I don't know any. I don't know anyone who had died from it, but I do know people who have had family members who had died from it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I mean I, I 100% believe that there is a virus out there. I don't think it's just like. I don't think our government brought it up just because the election year to like scare people and She'll like that. I do believe it's a real thing, is a virus? Um, I Mean I don't. I don't know how y'all feel about wearing the masks everywhere you go, but I mean just fuck, like, regardless of if you believe it or not, just fucking wear the mask, like we all.
Speaker 1:We can be done with it right, we all live in Michigan.
Speaker 3:We live in one of the worst states.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for this and I know I know our governor Whitmer is getting a lot of shit for like pushing back, like all these things, like to keep us like not being able to go out when, like wearing the masks, and If you just fucking wear the masks, like it's gonna go a long way of helping our numbers go down to where we don't have to do this shit.
Speaker 2:Right, that's exactly like again. Do I like wearing the mask? No, I fucking hate it, but I do it beard. Yeah, I have to wear a gator to like it sucks all this.
Speaker 3:No, jason's got inches of facial hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's just I hate it, it bugs me, but I mean I'm doing it for me, for to protect other people and so that way I can go in a restaurant again or go in a bar and have a good time and get fucking lit. Like this is stupid. Like what are we doing here? So sorry, tangent.
Speaker 3:No man, and I don't know how much the masks protect us. I'm just gonna take people at their word when they say that it helps and at the very least, like I know, my mom is In her 70s. She's had cancer in the past, so you know she's one of these people who is definitely like, Not somebody that wants to get this, you know so right.
Speaker 3:So I I think, whether you believe in it or not, just the fact that like having it on will make people like that feel better about being in public. I'll do it for that, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree and uh, and, like you guys said, chris, I probably agree with you on the um, I'm torn between it being like man-made in the lab and accidentally getting out, or at the, the military what was it? The military games or something like that the world military games world military games. I think Either one I could. I could very See being very plausible that if it started on a military base, then that's super, could have been.
Speaker 3:And then if I started a military base, that's a whole nother conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1:But right so yeah with Whether it started in the lab or at the on a military base and we brought it to the world. Military games or whoever. Yeah, I'm torn on both because I like, out of all the conspiracies, those two make the most sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah. I agree my take on it. I mean, like I said, I'm not I'm not an expert None of us are or just guys who like to drink and talk shit about conspiracies. You know so. But uh, anyways, guys, it's been awesome. Uh, jason, where can my followers find you on social media?
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you just want to follow any of the podcast I don't really have a big, huge personal preference but if you just go to threads podcast calm that'll get you that, or the gig economy hyphen podcast calm.
Speaker 1:All right and Chris, where come my followers find you?
Speaker 3:Well, actually, if they go to threads podcast, calm forward, slash blog I write all those.
Speaker 2:Oh, damn it, chris.
Speaker 3:And then my website is Christopher Talin. Calm, I'm on Instagram, christopher underscore Talin. I love my Instagram, so if anybody out there likes Instagram, hit me up there. Man, I love it all right, perfect.
Speaker 1:And uh, you can find this podcast on any podcast platform. You can find us on Facebook, drunk conspiracy podcast, on Instagram, drunk conspiracy podcast. And uh, yeah, man, I mean it's good, good conversation with you guys. I'll have to have you guys back on and on another conspiracy. This was a good chat and I think we had a good episode dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, every episode I listen to of yours, I'm like, oh, I want to be on this episode. I wish I could talk about Hitler leaving Argentina. Oh, dude, he talked about Tupac. I want to talk about Tupac. You know like. I haven't talked about Tupac yet, though, so maybe that'll be us next time, huh.
Speaker 1:We can. We can do to park. I'm excited I've been wanting to do to park so. Cuz I was on my guest pick the conspiracy. So if you want to come off or to park, we could set up another another later day to to get that going.
Speaker 3:That would be hot, and you got to come on my show too. I.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'd love to just let me know, let me know the topic and shit like that, and we'll make it work.
Speaker 3:Awesome dude, All right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, justin, thanks for the opportunity. I know Chris kind of messaged me like, hey, you want to be on this podcast. I'm like I need to be on more podcasts. I'm always the host and never the never the guests, and like this was so much fun, I'm like, oh, this is fucking great, like I loved it. So I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 1:No, I appreciate you guys. Yeah, thanks for reaching out to me, chris. Yeah, and anytime you guys want to come on, if you, if you got a conspiracy want to talk about, hit me up and we'll set it up for sure.
Speaker 2:Sounds good.
Speaker 1:All right guys have a good night.
Speaker 2:Thanks, thanks.
Speaker 1:All right, see you.