Have you ever encountered a symbol or gesture that sent shivers down your spine, or stumbled upon a theory so wild it seemed straight out of a Hollywood thriller? Imagine sitting down with Sean Kyle Salvino from the Shots and Thoughts podcast, sipping on your favorite beverage, and unraveling the secrets of the Illuminati’s ties to the glitz of celebrity life. That's exactly what we're rolling out for you, as we traverse through the shadowy intersections of fame, symbolism, and the alleged dark practices within the entertainment industry.
We're toasting to the enigmatic world of secret societies and the celebrities who may just be a part of them. From the pyramid hand gestures of NBA champions to the lightning bolts adorning pop icons, the symbols are ubiquitous and the theories, intoxicating. We swerve into the lanes of tragedy and triumph as we explore the poignant stories behind the losses of stars like Michael Jackson and Tupac — all while the Illuminati looms in the background. Whether it's mind control, cloning, or the possibility of blood sacrifices, we're peeling back the curtain on some of the most chilling narratives ever whispered in Tinseltown.
Fasten your seatbelts and prepare for a bumpy ride as we question the true cost of fame and whether the price, for some, may have been the ultimate sacrifice. With Sean's insight, we dissect the rumors of blood pacts and the heartrending personal losses of figures like Jennifer Hudson and Mike Tyson. As the conversation simmers down, we leave you pondering: when the stage lights dim and the applause fades, what remains for those caught in the Illuminati's embrace? Join us for a captivating episode as we lift the veil on what might just be the industry's darkest secrets.
Have you ever encountered a symbol or gesture that sent shivers down your spine, or stumbled upon a theory so wild it seemed straight out of a Hollywood thriller? Imagine sitting down with Sean Kyle Salvino from the Shots and Thoughts podcast, sipping on your favorite beverage, and unraveling the secrets of the Illuminati’s ties to the glitz of celebrity life. That's exactly what we're rolling out for you, as we traverse through the shadowy intersections of fame, symbolism, and the alleged dark practices within the entertainment industry.
We're toasting to the enigmatic world of secret societies and the celebrities who may just be a part of them. From the pyramid hand gestures of NBA champions to the lightning bolts adorning pop icons, the symbols are ubiquitous and the theories, intoxicating. We swerve into the lanes of tragedy and triumph as we explore the poignant stories behind the losses of stars like Michael Jackson and Tupac — all while the Illuminati looms in the background. Whether it's mind control, cloning, or the possibility of blood sacrifices, we're peeling back the curtain on some of the most chilling narratives ever whispered in Tinseltown.
Fasten your seatbelts and prepare for a bumpy ride as we question the true cost of fame and whether the price, for some, may have been the ultimate sacrifice. With Sean's insight, we dissect the rumors of blood pacts and the heartrending personal losses of figures like Jennifer Hudson and Mike Tyson. As the conversation simmers down, we leave you pondering: when the stage lights dim and the applause fades, what remains for those caught in the Illuminati's embrace? Join us for a captivating episode as we lift the veil on what might just be the industry's darkest secrets.
Welcome to Drunk Conspiracy. Alright, welcome back to another episode of Drunk Conspiracy's podcast. Tonight we have Sean Kyle Salvino Is that how you pronounce it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sean Kyle Salvino, or just Sean Salvino. Either way is good.
Speaker 1:Alright, I thought I had the last name right, but I just want to make sure I have one of those tricky last names too. So it's sometimes people can't pronounce them. But alright, yeah, so welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Glad to be here, man. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely so. You have your own podcast of your own. Tell my listeners about your podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks, man. I am the co-host of Shots and Thoughts. We're sort of a newish podcast. We've been around like 10 months, sort of and what we do is every week we try to learn a new topic that the three of us don't know, and the whole time we're taking shots while we're learning about it. So kind of a similar vein between what you guys do over here. But yeah, every week we learn a new topic and then after every topic we play like three drinking games at the end of each episode and yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a pretty cool concept you guys have there Taking shots and learning about new things. Yeah, it's definitely close to what we do here Get drunk and talk conspiracy theories, that's the best man Right Get the shit. Yeah, because when you get drunk you get a little more loose, so you're more open-minded.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, that's awesome. Where can my followers find you at?
Speaker 2:So we're shots and thoughts on Apple Podcasts, spotify, amazon Music you know wherever you get your podcasts. And then for social media we have a Twitter. We barely use it. We're mostly on Instagram, so Instagram. At S&T POD Also, we made a TikTok. There's only one video. We're all like near 30, so we're not like super proficient on TikTok, but we made one for fun anyways. But yeah, we're the same thing over there too at S&T POD.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I didn't even think about making a TikTok, but I don't know I might do it. Yeah, I don't use my Twitter that much. I actually deleted the Twitter for this show because it didn't do anything really with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm kind of like we barely use it and then when we do use it like I guess, because you know we're not too active on it, we don't get a lot of response. We get a lot more responses on Instagram.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I'm Instagram and Facebook. I get most of my people to follow. Yeah, I think I had like five followers on Twitter, so I was just like this pointless. I'd rather just focus on the better ones.
Speaker 2:When you're around our age. It's kind of like you really got to manage where you put your priority and your time and everything. So I definitely.
Speaker 1:That's very true, right, all right. So what are you drinking tonight?
Speaker 2:Tonight I am drinking a Margarita. I got a Espelon tequila with some 3rd Segavez organic mix and I'm going to do the same.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so I just got off work, literally just got home about 10 minutes before.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I did this.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it's no problem with my work schedule, man, it's. It's hard like I'm limited to like this late at night or weekends, because I get weekends off. So yeah, just doing it like earlier is tricky, but I usually wait around. This time anyways was, so I know my sons asleep. So, it all works out. But since I since I'm starting drinking late I have a nanny daddy. I don't know if you know what nanny daddies are. A lot of people don't.
Speaker 2:Are they the same thing as Natty Ice? Same brand.
Speaker 1:Same family natural light. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, but it's basically natural light on steroids because it's it's eight, it's 8%.
Speaker 2:Natty heavy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it after one of these will definitely get me in the zone, so just trying to play catch up, but then after that I got a Guinness beer. Yeah, my shot tonight is a crown Apple. Who can't go wrong with that. No, not at all. So, real quick, where are you from? Where do you live?
Speaker 2:Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1:Oh no, my shot glasses Texas shaped oh yeah. Yeah, my wife is from Texas. She's from San Antonio.
Speaker 2:Texas loves Texas. Man, there's Texas, shaped fucking everything. There is irons like everything. Skateboards ridiculous things that shouldn't be Texas shaped.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, we were there in November for a wedding and we were in Austin, in San Antonio, and did. I fell in love with it. I love Texas.
Speaker 2:Those yeah, texas is awesome. I mean, besides the weather, the weather, November is a good month, but I mean that state taxes None. I mean the food is good. You need to come to. Houston is where the I mean Austin has good food too, but Houston, I think either two years ago or three years ago, one best food city in beat New York.
Speaker 1:Really yeah.
Speaker 2:I think we're the either the second or third or first. We're top five, I think most diversities. So we have like a ton of different ethnicity foods and like a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1:Sure. Well, next time I'm in Texas, I'll have to shoot over to Houston. I'm originally from Tennessee, so I think the south is just, overall, better. We live in Michigan now. Michigan now, yeah, but yeah, definitely there, what? No, my family's actually from Michigan. Oh, you know, when I was born, my mom and my parents lived in Tennessee, so that's when, where I was born.
Speaker 2:On our on our show. We are just talking about like top travel places in the US. I guarantee Was it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, Because I'm from a tourist area of Tennessee Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The Smoky Mountains.
Speaker 2:Oh, cool, cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's a bit. That's one of the most traveled to places as well, but yeah, this sounds much better, I agree.
Speaker 2:I love it, man. I like visiting the north every now and then, but as far as like southern living, I can't complain. I love it, man.
Speaker 1:I don't blame it one bit. All right, man, let's do the shot.
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 1:Cheers, cheers. Oh yeah, all right, but anyways, yeah, you ready to jump into this? Yeah, let's get into it, man, all right. So today's topic of conspiracy theories is celebrities in the Illuminati. Yes, one of my favorite conspiracy theories and favorite things to talk about.
Speaker 2:Man, I could talk about the Illuminati all day, good because I also am super into it, but I'm into it so much that I'm like scared of it. So I've never done any research. I only know what I hear from friends and things like that. So I'm excited to hear from you and just get into it because, like I said, I only know my fears.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. So since we're just mainly covering like celebrities in the Illuminati, just a quick little backstory into the Illuminati. The Illuminati was like an actual secret society. It was a well-known secret society. They got disbanded in shit 17. Oh, 17 something, 17 something or early 18 something, roughly around there.
Speaker 1:But, it, yeah, the Barbarian Illuminati, but it's rumored that they never actually, like, stopped doing what they were doing. Yeah, so, yeah, it's actually. It is a real secret society. It's just not what today's day and age of the Illuminati is, what it was when it was an actual thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when it was a norm they didn't mean to have like a New World Order type vibe right.
Speaker 1:They were kind of like Well, they actually kind of did. They planned on yeah, they planned on taking over the world. If I remember correctly, they did the New World Order. That was their plan from like the start. But back then you had a lot of other secret societies out there. It wasn't just the Illuminati, it's like the Masons, yeah, like the Freemasons and stuff like that. But I'm pretty sure the Freemasons plays into the Illuminati, it's the same ones. So, yeah, they hit.
Speaker 2:So when I was trying to do research for this show, like because I brought up Illuminati but then after like listening to a few of your episodes, I was like, oh shit, the guests kind of like actually know what's happening. It's not, they know, they know going into it. So I try to do some research and there's not, like there's not a ton of stuff on it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And I was like that's sketchiness number one.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. That's fucking weird, that Well, you don't think there's a Netflix series or a Hulu series on the Illuminati. You would think that'd be something people would want to see.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's funny that you mentioned that, because earlier in because I have a discussion group for this podcast and actually wrote a post in there today saying like I was doing this episode tonight and that I remember when I used to do my research like 10, 11 years ago, I found so many things on like the Illuminati and the celebrities in the Illuminati and like blood sacrifices, and I found so much shit back back 10, 11 years ago. And then, as I was doing my like freshen up my research, I can't find anything and I mentioned that in my Facebook post. I was like I was like man, I was like I'm having a hard time finding some stuff and I'm like and I put in there. I was like I'm not saying it's weird, but it's pretty weird.
Speaker 2:I'm with you. It's weird because I'm like, look, the Illuminati is something that, and even a few years ago in the whole Beyonce thing, like that was such a big deal, but there's not a single Netflix or Hulu or Amazon documentary on this. There's not even, like I don't know, I looked up conspiracy shows nothing on this, really like bad stuff on Freemasons, which is same thing.
Speaker 1:Early Illuminati yeah, but not to what we're getting to. Yeah, which is kind of scary it really is.
Speaker 2:My co-host, one of my co-hosts, chris. He's super into conspiracies, like, like your, like your show, and he was like, dude, y'all are talking about the fucking Illuminati, are y'all trying to fucking get axed? Are y'all trying to? You know weird shit? I was like, yeah, man, I'm kind of scared but excited to learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, definitely there were. I used to find so much stuff about the Illuminati and the celebrities and stuff like that. But now when I was doing my research the other night man, it's not what it used to be and I thought that was kind of weird too. But quick, little fun fact and story. So I always joked about like, oh, I'm going to join the Illuminati. Like just playing around, I'm like, yeah, I'll join the Illuminati, I join. They have the website, they do, and that's where I'm going to. I got.
Speaker 1:I got really drunk one night. Oh no, and I was just talking to someone at work about the Illuminati and joining, just like jokingly. And I got really drunk one night and I was like, you know what? I'm going to check out their website. So I go to the website and there's an actual link to join the Illuminati. So in my head I'm like I'm drunk. So I'm just like, why not? So I click the link, I sign up. So I joined the Illuminati technically. But the funny thing is all the it's it's weird, because all they want you to do is buy shit.
Speaker 2:See, that's why I'm like that can't be the real fucking thing. There's no fucking. It's just somebody who got the website and was like fuck it, dude Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but but that night I don't like. The next day I don't remember doing it until like I woke up and I had an email and it said Illuminati on it and I was like what the fuck did I do last night?
Speaker 2:Dude, I get out, I joined waking up, and then the first thing you see when you wake up is welcome to the Illuminati.
Speaker 1:Right, it was kind of weird, but yeah they just, they were just like telling me to buy like shirts and stuff and like um what I guess, when you join you get your own little little symbol thing and like they put on a necklace and they want you to buy it and stuff like that. So it's not the Illuminati we'll be talking about tonight, but there is a website where you can join the Illuminati, and I actually did.
Speaker 2:What the shirts just say Illuminati. Isn't it supposed to be a secret? You can't like? Wear that shit right and not the whole defeat, the whole purpose, yeah.
Speaker 1:What they want you to do and we'll get into that more is like like the higher up Illuminati, like what we'll be talking about tonight. Yeah, they do it subliminally, they endorse it subliminally, like they have. They have different signs and stuff like that. Yeah, Okay. But yeah, we'll get into that. So actually we can start off with, like, the what, the like, some of the common things that you'll see celebrities do that make you think that they're in the Illuminati. Yeah, so do you know any of those?
Speaker 2:I've seen like the videos where they think like you know, they've clones, celebrities and shit. So it's like you see, like like that video of Eminem where he's like flipping out in front of the NFL or college.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a Michigan football game because Eminem's from I was watching it.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 1:Michigan fan it was weird.
Speaker 2:And then, as soon as they talk to him, snap right back into it. I'm like, hmm, that's weird. But yeah, I don't know the common signs. I know like the triangle was a thing. I don't know if that's like a legit thing or just something celebrities do, yeah, and then just the spacing out in the middle of interviews, but that's all I know.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. So yeah, the the triangle like the. Yeah the Jay Z, jay Z, yeah, his uh.
Speaker 2:The Rockapellet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is weird because I mean, obviously, jay-z is one of the highest talked about Illuminati members because, like he does do the the diamond, he calls it a diamond shaped, even though it's like the pyramid. But, um, yeah, when, uh, when celebrities join the Illuminati, the Illuminati wants them to do like these secret signs, to let like basically to put it out there without actually saying it.
Speaker 1:Kind of like spread influence type of deal, right? So some of the common ones are like the pyramid that we were saying. Uh, when you see celebrities like do the three fingers this, yup Cause six, six, six with the three fingers, oh fuck.
Speaker 2:But what about, like NBA people, when they hit a three? That's just hitting a three, right.
Speaker 1:Yes and no, because, uh, I did see some videos on NBA players in the Illuminati, like Steph Curry came up and cause he's always doing the three fingers. Yeah, and the? Uh, the conspiracy with that one is uh, how did he become such an like superstar in the NBA when, uh, he went to like? Uh, because he went to Davidson college. Yeah, it wasn't a D1. Yeah, small school he wasn't, he wasn't highly recruited out of high school. Uh, he went to small college. Yeah, he took his team far in the the, the March madness. But how did he become such a superstar in the NBA? And it a lot of people rumor that he's sold his soul and uh, now he's one of the greatest three point shooters of all time, if not the greatest. But uh, yeah, he does, do he? You do see him throw up the uh, the three a lot and uh, that's one, that's one of the main ones, is the three. What?
Speaker 2:do you want them to do Is that is that.
Speaker 1:Yup, that's what I'm getting into. Next is, um, cause, like you know, you see the pyramid with the one eye. Yeah, that's the. They called the all seeing guys. So like that's when you see celebrities cover up one eye and only have the one eye showing, so that's a sign of them. That's when they do the the all seeing guy with the three, three, three. So when, uh, yeah, it's crazy to think because, like when you, when you learn that stuff, you'll like you start to pay attention more.
Speaker 1:Like you see celebrities do that, like you start to think you're, like they're part of the Illuminati, like, like you, just like when I first started doing my research on this, uh, 10 years ago or so, uh, I didn't know any of this. And then, once I started seeing this and I saw these other celebrities doing it, man it's just like, yeah, it's a rabbit hole that you just jumped down and so much.
Speaker 1:But yeah, those are. Those are like a lot of the most common um gestures and stuff like that. And then, like, when you're watching like music videos and stuff, you see a lot of the, the pyramid shapes and like the like the fire with the demons and stuff like that, which, if you, um, you never really think about it until you hear it. And then, once you hear it, and then you're watching all these videos and you see this, you're like, oh shit, like there really are a lot of videos that are Like have these demons and like the fire and all that shit to. Yeah, like it's crazy, Like I know, Beyonce said videos like that, Rihanna said videos like that, Um, Kanye West, oh, and a lot of those are my dark, twisted fantasy.
Speaker 2:That whole album is fucking a cult as fuck, right, yeah? So some background on why I'm so scared of this. Before I was born and raised like Roman Catholic, so then, like all this Illuminati shit is like super terrifying to me, like demons and 666. That shit fucks me up. So it's crazy to get into this finally and try to understand it. But that's where a lot of the fear I'm like it's deeply rooted within my Catholicness. Were you born or are you like Christian or?
Speaker 1:I'm actually Christian, but I was raised Lutheran. Lutheran, catholic and Lutheran aren't that far off, because the Lutheran church was based off of Catholic. Yeah, yeah, so we're, we're like we're almost the same type of church. But, um, yeah, man, I was raised Lutheran and stuff like that, so I was just. As I got older, I stopped going to church as much as I did when I was younger. But, um, but in the back of my head, man, when I like when I first started diving into this stuff, like it would freak me out too, like I'm like I don't, I hope this isn't bringing like bad juju on me, like scared to fucking Google this shit.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'm like I like kind of put off research until like a couple days ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I don't blame you one bit. But yeah, like like we were mentioned earlier before the show, like with this show I got to do my research on these conspiracies, so yeah, I just I basically just said oh well, and just kind of went with it and I'm sure I'm on a list somewhere. They're like why is this Justin Diachromat in Michigan googling all this stuff?
Speaker 2:Like are you searching on incognito or are you just straight up fucking mode, Like it is what it is at this point?
Speaker 1:It is. It is what it is at this point Because because the way I see it is, if whoever's because I am a firm believer in the fuck the government knows everything we're doing, oh, they're listening, 100%, they listen. They're listening to us right now. They track everything. So if they're really good at their job, that they'll see. Like I'm searching all of this because I do host a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah like I'm not just doing it because I'm like, oh, I'm going to expose all these people for this. I'm not trying to expose it anybody, I'm just doing a drunk podcast.
Speaker 2:Just giving content to the people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the stuff's already out there. It's not like I'm the one bringing light to it.
Speaker 2:You're not going to the dark web to get the info. It's on there.
Speaker 1:Right, people know about it. I'm just bringing a fun twist to talking about it. Hell, yeah, as I drink, yeah, so that's, that's the way I see it. But yeah, I get where, like, how, like, you're kind of worried about it and doing the research. I was this, I was the same way, man. It kind of freaks you out because because the more, the bigger of a rabbit hole you dive down in, especially with the Illuminati, it gets freaky.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm sure it gets deeper, like the deeper and deeper it gets, the darker and darker and scarier you get. So I'm like I'm right at service level and I'm freaked out, but it's time to get into it. Dude, I'm ready.
Speaker 1:Right. So I hope I can, I hope I can blow your mind tonight with some of this and freak you out a little bit.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty easy to freak out, so I'm pretty sure you got it All right.
Speaker 1:I mean, where do we even begin after that? Do you want to jump into, like some celebrities that we we believe are in the Illuminati? Oh yeah, all right, yeah, let's do that. So, obviously, one of the well known Illuminati people is Jay-Z, like we were mentioned earlier. He does the diamond shape, yeah. The rock pyramid, yeah, the rock for his rock nation Rockefeller music label it's. It's rumored to believe that he's actually a recruiter for the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:I would not have a hard time believing that. I mean, I'm sure Beyonce wasn't all into this shit until Destiny's Child didn't have a lot of occult symbolism in their music before you know at least know that I saw so.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's another thing is like when they say, when people join the Illuminati and stuff that like they, like, like their personalities change and stuff like that like they'll be clean cut and then, once they join the Illuminati, like they turn like edgy. Yeah, like Beyonce did it Rihanna. When Rihanna first started in the music business, she was a clean cut girl.
Speaker 2:She was edgy at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then all of a sudden she cut her hair short and was like super edgy. Yeah, yeah, and there's other celebrities that it did that too as well. But yeah, I, I fully believe Jay-Z is one of the higher ups and definitely recruits people for the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:It's hard for me to single people, because I feel like anybody with any sort of success has at least some sort of knowledge about it. You know, like I don't know like everybody and like a bunch of celebrities that have said like weird shit and then like died about it, like Michael Jackson, mm, hmm, I think like right before he died, like before his concert, he was like I'm going to spread a message and expose a message the world has never seen in some shit, and then bam, a doctor kills him, like the next week, or some shit like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because his his tour, his last tour. What was it called? This is it or something like that. Is it that he was? He was going to expose the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:Damn, that's so like I got like when I first heard that story and now, just now, like chills dude down my spine. It's freaky man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I actually I have others about being killed. We'll jump into that too, but just some of the more well known ones is Lady Gaga too. Oh, because Lady Gaga, she, she's crazy, like seeing her videos and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, she's crazy because I guess the you know how she does the Thunderbolt on her eye and some of the videos. Apparently that is a symbol of Lucifer falling from heaven, the lightning bolt.
Speaker 2:Okay, does that mean like didn't David Bowie also have that? I believe so he had some kind of face pain.
Speaker 1:I feel like it was a lightning bolt. I think he did have a lightning bolt too, but yeah, it's supposed to be a symbolism because she does the, she does it over one eye and then, like, I saw multiple pictures of her with the lightning bolt and then her covering one eye and having the lightning bolt with the one, the all seeing guy. So that's rumored to kind of be there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Other ones are like Katy Perry. Yeah, her, katy Perry. I don't know about hers, though. Why, what has she done?
Speaker 1:Well, she started out as a gospel singer in music and then she tanked she, she had a failed gossip career and then she became a rumor that she sold her soul to the devil for the fame and everything. And then she became Katy Perry and now Katy Perry is one of the biggest artists of our generation.
Speaker 2:My Catholicism is making me tingle right now.
Speaker 1:And it's also Katy Perry's great, great uncle, great, great great uncle. Some great uncle of Katy Perry's was also part of was. I don't know he wasn't a free Mason, but he was part of a secret society.
Speaker 2:This is kind of a side note. I don't know if it's a conspiracy Maybe it is but isn't there another conspiracy involving Katy Perry, where she might actually be? What's the name of that?
Speaker 1:Oh, the John John Bonnet Ramsey. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be listening for that future episode whenever that happens, justin.
Speaker 1:I plan on doing doing that one because that that is an interesting one. I've always been curious about that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1:That's some freaky shit, but we'll get back to my bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, you're good, but um, but yeah, no, her, her great-granduncle, was part of the Bohemian Grove Brotherhood.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, no, that sounds weird.
Speaker 1:Right, I've never really looked into that Brotherhood Because when I hear Brotherhood I think more like a Nazi KKK, like a Brotherhood, but I doubt it's like that, but nonetheless a secret society. But yeah, so Katy Perry rumored Lady Gaga, in which there's more into Lady Gaga that we'll mention later during the blood sacrifices that we'll get into. The topic is oof blood sacrifice, right. Another one is Miley Cyrus. I could see that, yeah, she does the um, she does all the crazy stuff but, like a lot of artists, get tattoos done too, and Miley Cyrus has a tattoo of the all-seeing guy, I believe.
Speaker 2:Is the eye the same thing as the? What is it? The eye of Horace? Is that the same? Pretty much, pretty much yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like, just like like on the dollar bill, you got the pyramid with the eye and uh, yeah, any, any time. You see, just like the one eye is basically a symbolism of Illuminati. And then Justin Bieber as well, because he actually, he actually like his forearm, he has the all-seeing eye tattoo and then under it it says believe, so like I believe. And uh, I mean I know like the believe is part of his little following and his like that, yeah, but um, but yeah but uh, but I mean you got the all-seeing guy. Then under it it says believe I believe, like the all-seeing guy. Coincidence, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Doubt it. Oh, he got famous pretty quickly and has sustained his success despite the many downfalls that he's had.
Speaker 1:Right, right, and then, uh, yeah, like, and we got Michael Jackson, like we mentioned earlier he's, he was a well-known Illuminati person too. Bieber recover Is Drake? Drake is rumored to because, uh, dating back to like the early Illuminati, they uh I should have written it down For some reason they were real fascinated with Owls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, six and like six got. I mean I know that's a Toronto thing maybe, but I don't know. There's like multi like I love Drake, I'm into it, but like there's a lot of songs where he says six, six, six and I'm like, ooh, that's suspect. You know what I'm saying it really is. But uh, but yeah, he like that's also like Egyptian style looking owl, that's also suspect.
Speaker 1:Right, and he does that a lot. And then even Justin Bieber has a tattoo of an owl on his arm as well. So but it is known that the owl was a big part of, like, the Illuminati back in the early days of it.
Speaker 2:I mean what I don't know. Sorry, this is might be another side note, but why, how did this pervarian secret society have so much like Egyptian Sort of imagery as well as, say, satanism? I know they were anti-religion to start, but it's, it's weird to be anti-religion but also be heavily, heavily satanic. It's right, it's weird to me, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know I did. I'd have to do more research into that. Um, like I said, as much as I like talk about the Illuminati, I talk. I like more doing like the research of like the Illuminati nowadays, as opposed to I'll probably end up doing an episode of like the other early Illuminati. Yeah, just more of it. But um, yeah, I mean there there's some. I mean there's a long list of celebrities that are apparently in the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like anybody with like huge sustained success, not not saying they don't have the talent or anything, but like it seems like there's a lot of people that are high up there that do a lot of suspect shit.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's just because they think it's fun or if they're in it, but uh, I I don't know it is super suspect on some of this stuff, and then like, if you actually like, if you look into it and see all this stuff and then actually pay attention to like shit in Hollywood, like in movies, the music videos, um, just like even in interviews, what people do in those too, uh, they throw out a lot of stuff for the Illuminati and like, like I said, if you just do like, if you look into it and then you pay attention, you'll see all this, all kinds of shit in in our, our entertainment world. Yeah, dad, you're just like man. That's like it plays a part in the Illuminati. So, like the, the Illuminati runs Hollywood.
Speaker 2:You would a lot it's people believe yeah and it's. It's crazy because I feel like there's hella celebrities and hella like influencers in in the Illuminati and they're just like the small Part of it. I feel like the major part is like the fucking banks and the fucking world leaders and shit. Like that's the scary part.
Speaker 1:It really is um, because yeah, because it's not just like the famous celebrities that we see In entertainment, it is the higher ups, it like the elite in our government.
Speaker 2:And whatnot. Yeah, like the Rockefeller family is for sure in that shit, for sure yeah yeah, the Rockefeller family was like one of the original families of the Modernity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the original like 13 Families or something like that. They're one of the original. So uh, yeah, they, they definitely have a hand in the Illuminati, even to this day. But yeah, it goes so far beyond just like celebrities that we see in uh Stuff like that. But um, but yeah, I mean, like I said, we could go, we could go on and on about celebrities and who are believed to be in the Illuminati. So, uh, we'll jump ship here. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh, what do you know about, like celebrities who have been Killed by the Illuminati or rumored to have been killed?
Speaker 2:I have three main ones. So, uh, michael Jackson, we already talked about him, this is it. He was finna, exposed, everything I imagine, and then he just coincidentally dies, like right after he makes that announcement suspect. Uh, second is um, my friend told me about this one. I haven't done much, much research on it. Chris, my co host, he was the one that told me. Uh, jimmy Hendricks, apparently, was also listed. Uh, they said that he said that he was starting to Uh open his mind and expose some shit and then they drugged him and then that's how he, uh, you know how he died choking on the vomit and then um.
Speaker 2:The third is Tupac. I haven't done much research on Tupac, but he has hella songs about the Illuminati and Died is still Sort of a mystery. Right, those are my three main ones. Again, I haven't done much research on Illuminati stuff. Uh, again, it scares me. But yeah, right, those are my three main ones.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have a couple more to add to those two. Um, were they on your list? Uh, tupac was, and um, tupac was. I vaguely knew about Jimmy Hendricks one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I should have asked for more information, so I could have yeah, and then obviously the Michael Jackson, but um, Before we jump into them being killed by it I'm not sure if you know this and not about the Illuminati, but like when people join the Illuminati or Don't join the Illuminati and then like say you join the Illuminati and then like later on you decide you want out.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, there's no. There's got to be no out right they.
Speaker 1:They try to ruin your career. They'll either. They try to ruin your, they try to ruin your career and then they try to kill you.
Speaker 2:Basically, so if they, if you try to get out, they let you out and then they ruin your shit, and if they can't ruin your shit, then they kill you. Is that basically?
Speaker 1:basically so. So, going back to Michael Jackson, yeah. I mean Michael jack. He's been on top of the charts, uh, he Biggest name in music. Yeah, for how many years? Yeah, 70s to 90s it then Look at all that shit that happened with him, with like the the little boy, like the pedophilia, in all that that was. They say that's the Illuminati trying to ruin his career, because if you think about it, how many cases was it like 13?
Speaker 2:Something like I mean, they're still trying to Case is on that shit now.
Speaker 1:Right, but he, he was let off on all charges, all 13 charges.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:He got off. So that's it's like Nothing obviously happened to him, but with that being on, like, out in the public, that's the Illuminati trying to ruin his career, is putting that out there and making him go through that, right, but I mean, as big as the name is Michael Jackson is, I mean, yeah, you can put that on his name, but he's still gonna be a big star, yeah, and so like. But that was him trying to get out of the Illuminati and then he was going to expose the Illuminati and he ended up dying, which his, his, his one sister, la Toya, firmly firmly believes that he was murdered. Oh, it hit and not by the doctor. The doctor obviously played a part in it.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's saying like the doctor did it, but like he's only a pawn in the game.
Speaker 1:Yes, she, yeah, it's, it's believed that. Uh, even she believes it. And, um, who else was it? Was it? Was it his dad? Was his dad still alive when he died? Yeah, I'm not 100%. I'm not sure there was. There was one other person who, who was Firmly believed that it he didn't die by his doctor by accident, that he was murdered.
Speaker 2:I think it was a murder for sure, because it was like, wasn't it like a huge oversight, like not even close to the prescribed amount, like he fucking Put that in there like there's no chance he would survive, like no, so uh, but yeah, that was like that's the Illuminati trying to destroy his career.
Speaker 1:Then Michael Jackson's coming out that he wants to expose him and then he ends up dead. So it's crazy, but uh, but like junk jumping into two-pot. You said you don't know a lot about Tupac either. Um, I'm a huge hip hop, hip hop fan. I love Tupac, I love biggie. So I've done a lot of research in on like their deaths Is neither one. It neither one has been solved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is it? Illuminati. What was the rap? He Tupac said some Illuminati, not my mind or body or some shit like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, because, uh, what year did he die? 96?
Speaker 2:Yeah so uh yeah, so it's.
Speaker 1:It's rumored to believe that, like when? Uh, because Tupac went to prison for a little bit and that's when he. I've heard two different things. I've heard that he sold his soul to the Illuminati to become famous because when he first started out he was a backup dancer for um for, uh, god damn it. What is his? You know the Humpty dance. You know the song, the Humpty dance? Oh yeah, he was a backup dancer. For him glasses on the nose. Yeah, he was a backup dancer in that video, was he?
Speaker 2:Yes, I didn't know that shit, I didn't know he.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how he when he came out to LA, that's how he first got started is he was a backup dancer.
Speaker 2:Oh shit for um.
Speaker 1:I cannot think of that guy's name to save my life I to be honest, I have no.
Speaker 2:I know, I know the song, I know the music video. I I don't know that guy's fucking name.
Speaker 1:It's, it's right there. I'm the tip of my fucking tongue to, if you want to, but uh, yeah, but so he was. Yeah, he was a backup dancer for that and uh, it's rumored that he sold his soul to the devil to become Rich and famous, which he obviously did become rich and famous um digital underground. Sorry, Ah, yes, thank you, it was gonna drive me nuts.
Speaker 1:I got you man Um so, yeah, he started out as a backup dancer for digital underground and that's how he's got to start, but I guess he he sold his soul to the devil. Uh, became rich, famous, I mean, one of the best hip-hop artists of all time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, he wanted out, he wanted out against the Illuminati. And, uh, two months after his death is when his one album came out called Columna Adi, kill Illuminati. Yeah, yeah, it was called, uh, the Don, the Don of Columna la Adi, the seven day theory, and that that came out two months after he died Supposed, supposedly died, depending on if you believe he actually died or not another episode for you to.
Speaker 2:I'll be on the lookout for that one as well.
Speaker 1:I will definitely be doing that episode because I have a lot to talk about that one. But yeah, so if you believe he died or not, but um, yeah, but it's. It's also rumored that he was a blood sacrifice Of sug knight. Hey, but did sug knight pop off like that though? I feel not, not after that before.
Speaker 2:Before that, I feel like sug knight. When I think of sug knight now, I just think of like martyrs, that's it, he's a, he's a.
Speaker 1:He isn't jail for attempted murder. Well, actually no, he did kill one of the guys, did he like somebody? He ran over them, backed up, jesus ran over them again.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, it was on this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was um, uh, what was that movie? Straight out of Compton. It was on the set of straight out of Compton, what? Yeah, like while they were filming he did that shit. It wasn't while they were off location at a burger joint, but it was. They were, they were shooting that day and then he it was off location, but it was during the time they were filming that movie.
Speaker 2:Yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so uh, but it's it's rumored that, uh, tupac wanted Out of the Illuminati and he was gonna talk out against them with the album kill Illuminati, kill Illuminati, so uh, but yeah, that came out two months after he died in uh. So I mean, is right, how? I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly, tupac sold more albums Dead than he did while he was alive. I've seen that stat. Yeah, so that that is insane. But uh, yeah, two like um, yeah. But another thing I heard is like when, while tupac was in prison is when he found out about the Illuminati, and then he was like, oh, I'm gonna expose all these motherfuckers, and then they, so they killed him to silence him. But that's when he was coming out with the his album Illuminati.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so do you think when they joined they know like the full scope, the full, how evil the shit is? Are they just like for sure, okay?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because because there's like there's two main ways into the Illuminati is like you can straight up just sell your soul to the devil and, um, basically you're under their control. And then, um, some people sign like like a um blood sacrifice agreement where we will make you rich and famous and put you up there with the elites in Hollywood, but you have to sacrifice either a friend or a family member Jesus okay, so this is when we're gonna get into the blood sacrifice, right, because I had no idea about this shit at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but um, and you got to kill somebody. You know you don't have to do it personally, but it's gonna be the puppet tear. Pull the strings to get it done, basically, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Yep, someone, you, someone you know, and love has to die. But um, but another one that uh I don't think it's, uh, it may be talked about more that was killed by the Illuminati is, uh, bruce Lee.
Speaker 2:Oh, make sense, because his shit was a freak accident too. That should made no sense. How, how the fuck does that happen? How does a real get on?
Speaker 1:set. You know what I mean? Well, that's Brandon Lee, his son. Oh, my bad, my bad. Bruce Lee, the dad. Yeah both were. Both were mysterious, like kind of mysterious, yeah, but uh, bruce Lee, he, what was it? The 70s, when Bruce Lee really started being coming popular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been meaning to watch that 30 for 30, but I haven't got to it.
Speaker 1:I will watch. Oh yeah, I haven't seen that one yet either I really good, yeah, but anyways, yeah, bruce Lee.
Speaker 1:He started becoming real popular in the 70s like everyone wanted to be like Bruce Lee, starting to do like karate and all that shit. The, the Illuminati, wanted Bruce Lee to join but he said no. Oh, because Bruce Lee was such a a moral person. Um, like he was just he was a, he was a good guy, his morals were good, weren't bad at all, he was just morally a good person. So he, he refused to join. Yeah and so the Illuminati that had him killed to silence him basically.
Speaker 2:How did he die again? Oh, um, getting it mixed up with with his son.
Speaker 1:I don't know how right, oh, his, uh, he had an allergic reaction to Um, it's like a. He was having like headaches or something like that and a friend of his gave him some like Tylenol or something like that Maybe something stronger than Tylenol to help with the headaches. But he had a allergic reaction to it and it made his brain swell and that's how. That's how he died. Man, yeah, yeah, I had to think about it for a second. I was like I know how he died, but the alcohols hit me.
Speaker 2:No, that's fine. I I just finished my margarita and it's all starting to hit. Right now.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, right, but um yeah, so Bruce Lee, um Two more real quick. Uh, Probably one of one of my favorite favorite musicians, favorite people of all time, is Bob Marley.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have a Bob Marley tattoo on my arm. I love Bob Marley. Bob Marley is the greatest, uh, but yeah, it's rumored to believe that he was the illuminati injected him with a rare form of cancer. And that's how? Because he did die of cancer, of rare form of cancer. So it's rumored that he was injected with that because he was such an influential person in society.
Speaker 2:That.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he wouldn't join and he knew too much. So it's rumored that they actually injected him with the, uh, the, the rare cancer, and that's how Bob Marley died. So that that's. That was one of them. And then another one of them is, uh, kurt Cobain. This was a suicide. I thought, oh man, have you never really looked into that one either?
Speaker 2:No, I've never looked into it. What it's sketchy as fuck.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he was murdered by corny love.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the woman that.
Speaker 2:He's not there all the time over him.
Speaker 1:His wife, yeah, yeah, she didn't do it personally, but she was behind it. I actually just did another podcast show about that. You know, I actually plan on doing the want, my show About the the suicide murder of Kurt Cobain. Okay, I know a lot. I know a lot about that one. Yeah, you looked at me like Dude, come on.
Speaker 2:I was like, come on, that's a big one. I didn't know that at all. I thought that was a straight up like depression type deal. He, his wife, yep, is that? Wow, shit, I mean you'll have to.
Speaker 1:You'll have to listen to that episode when I do it, I plan on doing it soon. I plan on doing it soon. Oh yeah but uh, yeah, yeah, but anyways, yeah, it's uh Same thing with Kurt Cobain. Like he, he knew too much about the Illuminati, uh, he wasn't gonna join either, and uh, they, they basically killed him to satanism.
Speaker 2:But other two members, did they not? Were they not? As as Of nirvana, yeah, dave Groll and oh shit, fuck me, what's the other guys name?
Speaker 1:There were four, I think, weren't there, or was it just three?
Speaker 2:I thought it was just the three. I could be completely wrong. I was born in 92. I've learned about that mid-junior high.
Speaker 1:All right, I mean, I was. I'm only two years older than you.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I mean, we're a little bit yeah. Yeah, it was three or four of them, but they weren't. They weren't at the statue of Kurt Cobain. They were in the band, but they, they didn't have their names out there. Dave Groll didn't become popular until he.
Speaker 2:Did he do that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, uh, yeah they. They're on another guy's name. Yeah, he's not gonna listen to this.
Speaker 2:Respect to you if you ever do get a hold of this podcast right, yeah, yeah, yeah, good for you guy, you were in nirvana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good for you guys. Yeah, but um, but yeah, dude, it's it's just, uh, there's there's a few that like rumored to be killed by the Illuminati and like like, if you do more research into it, like, and if you keep an open mind to it is, uh, it's a lot of it just like kind of adds up in some places, like like with conspiracy theories. That I definitely keep an open mind and I like to tell other people I'm like, don't just be like closed minded, keep an open mind. And when you do, like dots will start to connect on some things, like it may not necessarily be true, but it could be true because they do connect. But, um, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm not a Uh conspiracy guy, but also, whenever Exp like conspiracies get like explained to me, I'm like I mean it's not out of this world to think that this could have happened. You know what I mean right. Especially with this stuff, hearing about all these deaths and these celebrities that I had no idea were Killed by or are part of. It's crazy to think about that shit, because I'm like you know, if I could make sense that I mean it all adds up.
Speaker 1:So right, yeah, it definitely does. And um, wow, it's really just crazy to crazy to think about. But uh, yeah, before we jump into the blood sacrifices, like how we mentioned earlier with Eminem, the mind control, yeah, that that's another thing that the Illuminati does is, um, is it mind?
Speaker 2:control or straight up cologne. There's both. It's a cologne's thing, but I feel like mind control is much more believable for me personally.
Speaker 1:I do too because the cia does it.
Speaker 2:Don't know about that either, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so not only, not only is it the Illuminati like brainwashing celebrities to control their mind and plant and make them do these things. It's, it's, I'll say rumored to believe, because I I don't know for sure, I believe it, but you know, I I can't say facts, um, but yeah, the cia has a mind control thing as well, that they use Unlike citizens, or like on people they catch or something.
Speaker 2:Both, yep, okay, yeah. So I asked that, knowing very well it could be both right, no, but yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like the radio, it's all Sly ways to fucking brainwash Right, but yeah, but with the cloning, um, I don't know. Me personally, I kind of want to believe that they may clone people because, uh, it's rumored that they, they, they clone these people and then they kill the original Like celebrity.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And then just replace them with the clone. So I don't, I don't necessarily know if that's what they're doing or if it is just brainwashing. Yeah, I probably. Me personally, I probably believe it's more brainwashing the person.
Speaker 2:But I feel like if you're going to clone somebody. They got a. I don't know, unless there's some fucking technology we don't know about, which is also very possible, but it's. How would you clone somebody and they would be Immediately that age? I like, I imagine the goat thing. You know what I mean. Or they use the right else. And then yeah, baby, but you can't have the same age, you can't clone a 30 year old and have a 30 year old come out. I don't right.
Speaker 1:Unless they do have the technology, because if you think about it, like, uh, our government and like our military, their technology is like 10, 20 years in advanced as opposed to what we know it is. So the tech, yeah, the technology that we know that exists right now, the government Technology is like 10, 20 years past what we know now. So so it's very, yeah, so it's, if you think about it, they could have that kind of technology.
Speaker 2:I mean they have like weather machines apparently at that. I'm just shooting out future episodes that I'm excited to listen to, but I've heard the weather machine thing and I'm like it sounds crazy. But also it sounds 100 fucking possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so. So we obviously know that they can already clone. Yeah, so what's to say that they don't have the technology Hidden somewhere to clone someone? Like if they were to clone me at the age of 30, right now that I'd come out, my clone would be me at the age of 30.
Speaker 2:I mean, you never know, yeah, who's to say anything at this point of everything you know? But um.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just right, but getting into the brainwash, like we mentioned Eminem and at the michigan game when he was being interviewed, he just like zoned out in hard, zoned out hard, yeah. So for my listeners when I'm talking about these brainwash people, if you were listening to this show, go look up the videos of everyone I talk about real quick. I'm already watching like a watch. Do do them, because I don't know if you have all of these, but yes, a lot of them are crazy.
Speaker 1:But, like, like we mentioned Eminem. Uh, he just spaced out and then all of a sudden just snapped out of it in. Uh, because when I watched it live because I'm a michigan fan, I love michigan football, you know I was watching that game and when I saw that, I'm like, I was like he's acting really weird. I'm like what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2:weird as fuck like Like I don't know some fucking. He looks like he's coked out or some shit. Like he looks wild and then I ask him a question, snaps back right into it like oh live, tv freaks me out, right? No fucking way, dude.
Speaker 1:You've been on how many.
Speaker 2:How many music awards and performances and right.
Speaker 1:He's always been a weird dude, but for him to go From him, to go that like kind of loopy, to just like straight snap it out of it and just being like, oh, live tv freaks me out. No, it does not. I've seen you perform Live tv shows. That's what I'm saying. There's no way. But, um, another one that I think, if you haven't seen the video that's gonna blow your mind, is a al roker. Oh yes did you see that one?
Speaker 2:Yes, well, what they say? Something about Jesus right on the heat. The holy spirit, oh the holy spirit. And then I just yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cuz like he's like looking, he's looking at them. And then the the chick in the middle I can't think of her name she says something, then she goes the holy spirit. And as soon as she says the holy spirit, his head snaps to the camera and he's just like Dude. And I was that like when I saw that it kind of gave me the chills, I was like that is freaky.
Speaker 2:He has the. So yeah, he has like a like dead eyes into the camera. I'm like that's not right, and it was. He held it for a long ass time.
Speaker 1:He did. It wasn't just like a weird like snap, look at the camera and just like go back to it. It was a while he stared in a yeah, it's crazy. And that's another thing to play into about. That is because, uh, look how much weight he lost. Yeah, he was a big dude.
Speaker 2:He got like triple bypass though, didn't he?
Speaker 1:That's what they say. I mean, if you want, if you want to look into the theory of the illuminati, like, when you join the illuminati, your life changes. Yeah so like say, like put away the fact that if he got the triple bypass surgery, say he did join the illuminati. Once you join like I mean like you you transform you wish is not true Basically, and so like I mean he did lose all that way.
Speaker 1:And then, like, when she mentions the holy spirit, it's like a trigger word, almost yeah, because it is freaky. So like again, listeners, go look up the video. Um, it's, it's weird.
Speaker 2:As soon as she says it it's like, yeah, incident at the camera, dead eyes.
Speaker 1:As soon as she, as soon as she said the word, the holy spirit he's. He just like zooms in. It's crazy, it was freaky. Um, another one is, uh, britney spears. Oh, dude man, I feel so bad for her man right, because you're like you know how she went all crazy back in. Uh, what was it 2007? Yeah, yeah, just like shaved the head, did I?
Speaker 2:hear this. I'm sorry I keep going on tangents, but I you're good man I heard like what he like a conspiracy now is that her dad has her in some kind of like weird contract when he owns like everything, like he can control her. Essentially because there was somebody that was like uh, she like did this weird tiktok or whatever. And people were like what the fuck is that? And then somebody commented like, hey, if you're in distress or if you need help, wear yellow in your next tiktok. And then her next tiktok, she's wearing yellow and she it's like another weird shit. Really. Yeah, that might be something for you to look into again, looking forward to that episode. But that's like I I saw that that was like trending on twitter like a month ago or two, like a month or two ago.
Speaker 1:Something about some weird I almost believe it, because her dad was very controlling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's with her and with her and her sister. Oh, I bet, but uh, no, it's funny that you mentioned that because literally yesterday at work, uh, one of my co-workers, ryan, we're like, he's standing next to me at his uh box and, um, uh, we work in a diesel mechanic shop, so we have our toolboxes and uh, he's stand there and he's like man, britney Spears is going crazy again and I was like what? And he's showing me like her instagram videos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's probably the same thing that's on our tiktok.
Speaker 1:It's probably, probably, but it yeah, dude, just the shit. She's like talking about insane and acting. I'm like, dude. She is like.
Speaker 2:Like some kind of like, like she looks insane and I'm like dude, this has to be a cry for help, like there's something behind this shit, because it's fucking wild. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1:I was like you know, I was but that could, that could be the uh, that could be the mind control that the Illuminati has on her, true, true, you know, because she is acting strange, like weird again. So, man, I don't know. Another one, beyonce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1:Did you ever see the video of her sitting court side at the next game next to jz?
Speaker 2:It's a long ass video of her just swaying back and forth. Yeah, she's just like the fucking nothingness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I don't know who I forgot who's sitting next to jz. But jz is like watching the game, into the game, talking to the people next to him, and Beyonce's just zoned out, just swaying and just like wide-eyed. She's just like like going great, like it was weird and it is a super long. Uh, like trance.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trance Perfect work. Uh yeah, it's just, it's, it's freaky.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's. She is zonked out for a long time.
Speaker 1:Right, so it's. It's rumored that, like she is under the mind control. And then um another one I have is, uh, amanda Bynes. Oh, fuck yeah, her career fucking plummeting, yeah, and she went crazy.
Speaker 2:She went nuts Dude, yeah, I remember when all those tweets yeah, dude, the fucking Drake one I was like oh shit dude calm down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, so, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's rumored to believe that she, she's like mind, like mind controlled by the Illuminati as well. Um, yeah, it's just it's. It's super crazy. And um, yeah, dude, it's, it's just crazy to believe in, uh, to think about, but, like, when you think about it, it's not that crazy to believe you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It kind of fucking makes sense. You know what I mean, right? It's weird how perfectly the puzzle fits that they are part of this.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure, and um, there's so much more that we probably won't talk about tonight, about it, but like yeah, like you said at the beginning of this episode, you could like this is a the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:You could have a whole entire podcast on Strictly Illuminati shit and it could last forever. Like, oh for sure, it's insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's definitely one of my favorite things to talk about, because, just because there's so much to do with it, um, but yeah, man, I mean the. The last thing we'll jump into is, um, the blood sacrifices which, uh, are you, are you?
Speaker 2:ready for that. You know, I don't know if I'll ever really be ready, but fuck it. You know what I mean. We're this deep already right.
Speaker 1:So, um, all right, first one I'll jump into and we talked about this person earlier, m&m. So, m&m, if you want to believe that he he was like, either way, either way he was, he. He's been a part of the Illuminati, whether he was brainwashed or he did the. The blood sacrifice, yeah, whatever you want to believe, his blood sacrifice was his friend and former bandmate of D12, the rapper proof man. We're getting, oh man, right. Are you? Do you know D12 and I?
Speaker 2:I know D12 a little bit. I don't know the specific members, I just know like some of their songs and stuff.
Speaker 1:All right, did you? Do you know about proof and being murdered? Okay, so proof was actually shot and back in 2006, outside of an illegal after hours club down in Detroit, and um, I live like an hour north of Detroit, so I'm I'm actually not far from Detroit, yeah, and um, but yeah, it was a. He was shot and killed outside of an illegal after club in Detroit In 2006, 2004. Do you know M&M song like toy soldiers, yeah, yeah, did you ever watch the music video?
Speaker 2:It's been a, it's been a minute. I can't say I know that I've seen it on MTV, but I can't say that I remember it Well in that music video.
Speaker 1:Proof is in the video and he is shot and killed in the video outside of a nightclub. Oh fuck, no, and that and that was in 2004. So two years later, is that's how he's killed in real life.
Speaker 2:All right, but all right, this is me. I don't mean to be Compative against the, the theory or the conspiracy. Right Is the is the blood sacrifice in order to get in, or that's just in order to stay in, or what. What is the? Because he was. He was already by 2006 and that was already a thing. You know what I mean right, right.
Speaker 1:So what they do with the blood sacrifice is you basically sign a contract, yeah, saying that you are offering a blood sacrifice for your fame and your career, but it doesn't necessarily have to happen right away.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Okay, so whenever you sign with the Illuminati, it doesn't matter when the blood sacrifice happens. But it will fucking happen.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it's usually not right away, it's usually after they become famous Wild. So once they become famous is when the blood sacrifice comes in. But I mean, obviously Eminem became popular back in the 90s, yeah, I mean. So it took until 2006 for his blood sacrifice.
Speaker 2:The choice of a video is definitely fucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when you think about it, of proof being shot and killed in the music video outside of a nightclub and then in real life, that's how it happened, like it's. It's. It's crazy to think that that's that those bring back to like me earlier saying like connecting dots to things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly you know it's, it's, it's crazy. So so yeah, eminem, if you believe he was brainwashed and just sold his soul, or if he actually, like, sold his soul and did a blood sacrifice, who knows? But it's a, he's actually out of the Illuminati. Now what?
Speaker 2:Oh, is that why he's not like popping right now?
Speaker 1:Well, I wouldn't say that I mean Eminem is still the greatest rapper alive, my opinion.
Speaker 2:I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:But, but yeah, anyways, but yeah, I mean, but yeah, he, he, he got out of the Illuminati and it's it's rumored to believe that his song Not Afraid is about him getting out, getting out of the Illuminati, that he's not afraid the Illuminati.
Speaker 2:So is he next like?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know if they necessarily always, I don't know. I don't know if they always necessarily kill you or not, because obviously Eminem is still alive and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But when did that song come out? I'm not afraid.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's been a minute, it's been a while, all right, yeah, a few years now. I mean, I've been, I've, I've lived in Michigan, now back in Michigan, for nine years, 10 going on, 10. Yeah, did I list? I can't remember if I was in Tennessee or in Michigan at the time of that song. Eminem and his blood sacrifice was proof. The next one I have is Kanye West. Oh, yeah, his mom.
Speaker 2:No, he loves his. I guess that's the prerequisite to you.
Speaker 1:Got to love him, to kill him, but he went fucking crazy after that, and I think that's part of it and this I'm going to tell you to keep an open mind of about, about what I'm about to tell you, all right.
Speaker 2:I'm, I'm a, I'm like 75 25 on how much of a Kanye stand I am because I fucking love Kanye, but also the fucking election shit has me like fuck him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I liked early Kanye. I liked Kanye's first two albums.
Speaker 2:First 30 were crazy for me. You don't like graduation.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I'm sorry, three. I will go three. Graduation was good. Graduation was good.
Speaker 2:And then his mom died before the fourth one, so right In 2007.
Speaker 1:So his blood sacrifice was his mother.
Speaker 2:That's so crazy.
Speaker 1:He loves his mom. Right, she died of complications to surgery. Yeah, she had a lot of work done on her. Yeah, the doctor came out in interviews and said that, like she was, she was fine, perfectly normal after the surgeries when she went home to heal. He wanted the doctor wanted her to go to like a facility to heal, but she said, no, that my nephew will take care of me because he is a registered nurse. According according to the doctor and other people, his Kanye's mom went home and she was left there unattended by herself, while the nurse who was a nephew who was supposed to be taken care of her went off to like a baby shower or something. But she was left to laying on her back and not not propped up, and the doctors, like any nurse or doctor, knows that you have to prop the patient up and not to leave them on their back. And it's also rumored to believe that she was given like 20 Vicodin's. Jesus Christ, 20 Vicodin's 20 Vicodin's within 24 hours.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm getting really sad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so that played the part of like the, the, the plastic surgery doctor who did all these surgeries was like he, she wasn't cared for properly and it has nothing to do with it, like what he did, because all hit, all his surgeries were successful. So after she died, kanye West came out and he did an interview I believe it was with GQ, don't quote me on that, yeah, but it was. It was a big newspaper or not newspaper magazine. Um, he came out and quote it's saying if he had never moved to Hollywood or LA, his mother would still be alive. So when you think about that, it kind of like that's him selling, like selling his soul for the blood sacrifice. If he never would have done that, his mother will still be alive.
Speaker 2:And then he Kate, oh man, I guess like that the mat, like what you're saying about how it adds up like he, he gave his. He was a huge producer right Before he was a rapper and he played his shit in front of everybody and for years it flopped until it didn't all of a sudden Right.
Speaker 1:So then I'm fucking.
Speaker 2:That adds up. You know what I mean. Like he fucking keeps flopping. He keeps flopping, sells, his soul pops off. Then mom dies a few years later.
Speaker 1:But another quote he gave during that interview and I think this was the question again, don't quote me on the question, but I believe they asked him what his biggest like regret of his career oh my God, that is his answer was his mother. So if I believe that was a question, if it's not that question it was, it's something to tie in with that, so you can, anyone can look it up. But but yeah, they they're like what's your like, your biggest regret of your career? Like something, something along those lines. And he said his mother. So for me we're like connecting dots, like if he's he blood sacrificed his mother to get the fame. His biggest regret to like of getting his career, why would it be his mother you know what I mean If he didn't blood sacrifice and that's who they chose to kill?
Speaker 2:Oh man, this hurts. I love I used to. I mean, his new music is trash, but like it. I mean the first three albums are so good. I feel like it forgives him of any of his shitty albums that he puts on now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his first three albums were great and then after his three albums I didn't care for a lot of his own music, but I liked him featured on other people's songs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I will say like commercially. His fifth album, my dark, twisted fantasy, is like a commercially, like a perfect album.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:To where every song is like perfect for the radio. Yeah, but yeah, man, like I don't know.
Speaker 1:But if, but think about it, man Think about it.
Speaker 2:The fucking when you, when, when I do think about it, it fucking adds up, which is why I'm fucking sad, right, oh shit, like he writes so many songs about his mom and it's just like I mean it kind of. I mean it wouldn't be the most unbelievable thing in the world for that to be what it is. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Exactly A couple more I have just just to mention. We don't really have to get into him too much because the real isn't like I got. I got two that I really want to talk about, but another one is Dr. Dr.
Speaker 1:Okay, his son died of an overdose and it's it's believed yeah, it's believed that his son was his blood sacrifice. Bill Cosby, his son was murdered out in LA and it's rumored that he, he was his blood sacrifice. And then I mean, look at Bill Cosby's career, like now he got popped for doing all those roofies on women and like so, like that's that kind of plays in the part of the Illuminati ruining his career, and now he's sitting in a fucking prison cell.
Speaker 2:And he looks fucking crazy now, like he looks fucking whacked out of his mind.
Speaker 1:Right. So, and Mike Tyson as well, is another one. Oh, but he's I feel like he's back on the come up though, since the hang of he is on the come up, which I'm excited for his fight I'm so looking forward to.
Speaker 2:Roy Jones. That's going to be so excited. So excited Can they? Is it like they can actually like they're? It's like a straight boxing match, like no pads and shit like it is, but they're supposed to.
Speaker 1:They have rules that there's. Which is dumb because it's a fucking Mike Tyson fight. One of the rules is no knockouts. That's what I'm saying. Like what are you going to fucking tell Mike Tyson to get into a ring, is it only?
Speaker 2:body shots.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because how are you going to? How are you going to tell Mike Tyson to get into a fucking boxing ring and don't knock out somebody?
Speaker 2:Bro, have you seen the clips of him?
Speaker 1:He's fucking insane Dude.
Speaker 2:he's got it Fast, as it makes zero sense. Bro, he's, he's showing up Francis and got to fucking. How to fucking punch and shit. I'm like faster than Francis, and Francis is in his twenties, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to quote Ed Helms from the movie the Hangover, but he still got it. Dude still got it, it's nuts, but no. Mike Tyson's daughter, I believe, yeah died of a in 2009, of a suspicious hanging. She somehow like something happened where, like she, she, she got hung somehow accidentally.
Speaker 2:Do you think these people get to choose who takes the blood sacrifice or the luminaries like this is who it's going to be.
Speaker 1:I I don't know it's tough.
Speaker 2:I kind of I kind of feel like the Illuminati chooses because I'm like dude fucking sons and daughters, mothers Like how do you right and choose that shit, bro? No, I think the Illuminati, even the world, could not, could not just make me make that decision. You know what I mean? There's no way. But if it's really, makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy though, but all right, getting into the last two before we wrap things up about who I think like blood sacrifices. One of them is Lady Gaga. So I don't know I don't know how much you know about Lady Gaga, or before she became Lady Gaga, she actually had a music career. She went by the name of her actual name, like Stephanie something.
Speaker 2:I remember Facebook group that was like Stephanie blah, blah blah will never be famous, or some shit like that. That's the only thing.
Speaker 1:I know about before. So she actually like yeah, she, she actually had her like came out into music as her name Stephanie, whatever, but she failed. She didn't have a. She wasn't anything good. She had a friend named Lena Morgana Morgana Lena Morgana, something, something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah that she would collaborate with. Well, this Lena mysteriously died and it's rumored that her blood sacrifice was her friend. And what makes it interesting is that Lena's daughter and ex-boyfriend both her daughter came out with the claims that Lady Gaga had her killed because Lady Gaga stole her mom's identity. What as Lady Wings? Because she came out after, after Stephanie failed, she became Lady Gaga and she said she stole her mom's identity. And then I watched a video of a video, of a video, of a video of a Lena, one of her music videos, and it is kind of similar to the style of Lady Gaga. And then the ex-boyfriend of Lena said he 100% supports Lena's daughter's claim that Lady Gaga did steal the identity of her dead friend. So her blood sacrifice was her dead friend. And then, not only did she have her killed to become famous, she stole her identity to become famous. And now Lady like look how big Lady Gaga is now.
Speaker 2:Oscar winner. Did she win an Oscar for that movie, did she? She's won a bunch of shit.
Speaker 1:I believe she could have. I mean, that was a great movie, definitely. What was it? A Star is Born.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Star is Born.
Speaker 1:Great movie. Bradley Cooper phenomenal. I love Bradley Cooper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's rumored to believe that that was her blood sacrifice to become rich or famous. And not only did she have her killed, she stole her identity too. That's a fucking cherry on top, dude Right, it wasn't a big enough of a fuck you that I'm gonna have you killed, I'm gonna steal your identity too. Yeah, this makes me the betrayal.
Speaker 2:It's so sad, dude Right.
Speaker 1:But okay, we'll get into the last one, which is probably one of my favorite blood sacrifices. That's why I saved it for last Shit. Are you ready? Let's get it, jennifer Hudson. No her brother, her mother and her nephew.
Speaker 2:Yeah, illuminati has to pick it, illuminati has to pick it. There's no way she would choose all of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, because what makes this one probably my favorite is because a lot of the shit that it just adds up Like alright. So Jennifer Hudson was on what was it? America's Got Talent? Is that what it was? No, she was on American Idol. American Idol, that's it. She finished seventh, okay, seventh. She was on top three. Was it top three? The thing I saw said seventh.
Speaker 2:It's probably seventh. I'm just imagining, I don't know. I'm just saying it out loud people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, even if it was top three, she wasn't one, or she?
Speaker 2:wasn't two, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:But I saw something where she finished seventh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have no reason to not believe you.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's just. I have no reason to believe me, but I mean, I don't know, we'll go with it.
Speaker 2:She was seventh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll go with it. She was seventh, so my thing about it is how do you finish seventh on American Idol and then go like, right after finishing seventh, getting one of the lead roles in a major motion picture Dream Girls alongside Beyonce?
Speaker 2:Who might have recruited her?
Speaker 1:Right, because if you look at it, look at all the other reality shows about singing and stuff like that, you don't see any of these other people getting movie roles or like big, big careers to where, like, everyone knows their name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, rarely. The ones or twos barely do anything. I mean, it's only Kelly Clarkson, that's it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I can't think of anybody else. Yeah, because Kelly Clarkson won.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she won All the other, where I mean I mean Carrie Underwood.
Speaker 1:Oh, she won, yeah, carrie Underwood, but still, the point is that she got seventh. And then she got this major role into a movie, Dream Girls, and not only did she get the role, she actually beat out Beyonce for one of the awards Think I forgot which award. She won multiple awards for it. I believe, yeah, she beat out Beyonce. So, the way I see this, how are you gonna win seventh on American Idol? Get, get this movie dream girls alongside Beyonce.
Speaker 1:Jamie Fox Close wasn't a movie. A lot of big names were in that movie. That was a big name movie. And Not only get that role but also beat Beyonce for an award for that movie. It's like to me it just doesn't make sense. Yeah, and so it's, it's, it's. Then she became famous and all this shit, and then her mother, her brother in her nephew, well, murdered. What's more fucked up is that the, the guy who was actually arrested for the murders, was the nephew's father, which was Jennifer Hudson's sister's ex-husband. He did an interview Saying he had nothing to do with it and that Jennifer Hudson was behind it. What? Yes, like he said, all the evidence that was there was planted by the police and planted by whoever and To set him up for the murders. He 100% believes he had nothing to do with it and even said Jennifer Hudson was behind the killings dude.
Speaker 2:This is fucking mm-hmm like chills goose bumps. Fucking scary shit, dude right.
Speaker 1:So I mean it's that. That's why it's one of my favorite ones to think about, because, like in my mind, everything adds up like I don't. I do not know how you go from being seventh on a reality TV show about with singing To getting a like one of the lead roles in a major motion picture winning awards yeah yeah, it then going on to having a career in Hollywood, but now apparently she's like blacklisted in Hollywood.
Speaker 1:She is she. That's what I read and I think, when you think about it, you haven't seen her in anything recently. Yeah, she hasn't been in anything.
Speaker 2:Do you think she tried to get out after all the murders? Maybe my thing is like, after the traumatic experience of that murder, like if I'm a celebrity, right and all these murders, hell yeah, dude, chuck that shit. If If I'm in that shit, right, if I'm in the Illuminati, all this shit has happened. I've seen the power that they have. I think I would just be too much of a bitch to fucking be like. I want out.
Speaker 1:I think I would just fucking up at that point I'm in, like when I'm in you've killed my loved one.
Speaker 2:What can I do? Like, right, I'm out, the only thing. If I'm out, I mean, if I'm out, then my career is ruined and my loved one doesn't come back. So I'm just like I mean fuck it, I'm in this fucking evil organization. It is what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the only way I could see me like getting out of it is like be like can I pick the person y'all Kill? Yeah, cuz I'd just be like I fucking love this guy that I fucking. Yeah, this is my best friend when I really hate this motherfucker. I'll put this guy dude, he's he's fucking.
Speaker 2:We're soul brothers. You know what I mean? I just like right lie out of my ass.
Speaker 2:But, dude, how would you? That means these guys that they killed, these people that they killed, have fucking huge balls to fucking. Just be like Either I don't want to be a part of this, like I don't want to join, or like I want to get out because, right, I know me and I would be like, dude, you've already proved to me your power, so I'm like I'm fucking in it. Dude, there's no, there's no out at this point, unless I'm out, right?
Speaker 1:Not at all, but um, but yeah, man, that's. That's the celebrities in the Illuminati. Like I said, there's so much we could talk about, there's so many more celebrities, so many other things that that could always be a part two episode, dude, and I'm excited to hear it. Man, I may have you on it for it. I mean, you go come back and do episode two of it.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'll bring my other two co-hosts and we'll or at least Chris, who's super into conspiracy. We can fucking chop it up, or you want our show and you could chop it up, dude.
Speaker 1:Let's do it both. Let's do both. I'll come on to your show and you guys can come on to mine. We can always do another conspiracy. Since you said he's big into conspiracies, yeah, um, if you want talk to him, have him pick a conspiracy and you two do research on it and y'all can come back on my show and we'll get that conspiracy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but anyways, closing, closing shit. What do you, what are your All right question? Couple questions yeah one would you join the Illuminati if they came to you and be like hey, we can make you rich, we can make you famous, but you either have to sell your soul or you have to do a blood sacrifice?
Speaker 2:The Catholic in me would not allow it to happen. You know I mean Okay, one, it's just like. This shit frightens me to a whole another level. Like two, I would rather die, then be like I'd rather be the one that's killed than like my fucking parents or my kid I don't have kids about, like my future kids or my spouse, like just so I could have money. I'm chilling with no money, as is. You know what I'm saying, so I'm good.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 1:I get it 100% the way I see it is. Yeah, the way I see it is, I'm I'm very family-oriented.
Speaker 2:I love my family.
Speaker 1:Um, I Couldn't imagine signing an agreement being like, hey, give me all this money, like make me high up there in Hollywood, but take any family member of mine you want. I just I couldn't do it, as much as I would love the fame and the money.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I mean, can you imagine Joe Rogan money?
Speaker 1:That shit would be amazing, but right, At the same time, like I don't want any of my family killed exactly dude, that's the Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2:Money is not worth the wife or the kid or the parent. You know I mean right, oh, oh, one.
Speaker 1:One more I wanted to mention, because I I just come across it during my research. What's his name? Chad, boswick or Boswick? How do you pronounce his name, chadwick?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it, yeah, man.
Speaker 1:He was in it, it's. I watched a thing on it that said that he signed the contract for a blood sacrifice. No so and if you think about it, his career really did just like take off out of nowhere, like he got all these major roles as, like Jackie Robertson, who was the singer that he did, he did James Brown.
Speaker 2:Jackie.
Speaker 1:Brown, jack, yeah, jackie Robinson, james Brown yeah, he had some major films, but when it came time for him to like, like, for them to call I oh, that's what made me think that I wasn't sure if, like, the Illuminati picked, or if they picked, but they said it was. It came time for him to pick his blood sacrifice. And he refused. And now he got cancer and died sort of similar to what's his name?
Speaker 2:that you, bob Marley, who got cancer and died right.
Speaker 1:Man, so I know I don't. I, like I said, this is the first time I've ever seen anything like with with Chadwick, because it he just died not long ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah was. It was a bit a month, something like that it's been maybe like a month and a half, maybe, yeah yeah, something like that, so I any idea how many he filmed like five or six movies with the cancer fucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, chemo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did one of the Avenger movies while he was doing chemo man and people were fucking chopping them and flaming them online for being too skinny and shit. They had no idea. Man right, Crazy like.
Speaker 1:So I'm not actually gonna say I don't have enough of an opinion on that one, I'm just. I was just throwing it out there because I did come across that. Yeah, yeah yeah, that he refused to do a blood sacrifice and that, so they killed him. So like it's crazy to think, because I actually really enjoyed his movies. Oh, he did a movie. He did a movie called 21 bridges is like one of his last movies.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, the the guys who filmed endgame did that one. I think the Russo brothers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, phenomenal movie, great movie. He was such a good. He was such a good actor.
Speaker 2:Me and my fiance just watched a couple months ago when I came out on Netflix I think it's called to five bloods as the Spike Lee Movie yeah, more movie. I mean he was kind of like a. He was a main character but also a side character at the same time. He was, but he was fantastic in it.
Speaker 1:He was really good, yeah. So it's hard for me to actually form an opinion on if he was in the Illuminati and if that's what caused his death or anything, but at the same time like for him to like because I the first time I remember ever seeing him in anything was a TV show, show on ABC family called Lincoln Heights.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he came into the last season. I don't know if you ever watched the show or not. No, I've never seen that one. I actually watched the show when it was on and he came in on the last season of it. You know, that's the first time I ever saw him in anything. And then, after that, dude, his, his movie career just like skyrocketed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, after Jackie, it was like he's like yeah, every, every major Like black historical figure, like he got to play like in crazy Rolls, like, and it's like a dream lineup of roles to play back to, back to back. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:Right. So they that that plays into the part of, like him joining the Illuminati, his career taking off, becoming a big name as to what he was Then, all of a sudden, just because no one knew about his cancer. Yeah, no one kept his secret. So, like I don't know, man, it's like, if you think about it, like I don't know, it's weird. I hate to think that he was part of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, part of me is like I just hope he wasn't. You know what I mean, right? Also, if he was, like that's still a heroic way to go out either way, to fucking just be like no, fuck you like. Right, he got what he wanted, he got his fame, but he wasn't willing to give up anyone, I mean yeah, I mean that is still a badass way to go, but also part of me is just hoping that he stayed clear of that shit completely for sure.
Speaker 1:But my last question for you is, yeah, man, your overall thoughts of the Illuminati and like celebrities, do you believe it, do you? What's your take on celebrities in the Illuminati? Do?
Speaker 2:I believe it. I mean, I've had such a deep, heavy fear of the Illuminati for for so long so, based on tonight, yeah, it's, it's still. My fear is only more deeply confirmed. I'm gonna need a definite palette cleanser After my fears have been only deepened. But yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean. I mean is, like I said, going into it like I wanted to learn about it and I I feel like that's a success. I have learned about what it is and like what it takes to get in and who's been a part and who's Rejected and then dealt the consequences. It's crazy man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, hope I brought some light into your, your knowledge of the Illuminati, since you didn't have too much. Yeah, man, yeah, it's crazy to think, but yeah, my my thoughts and opinions on is. I Clearly believe that the Illuminati's in our entertainment business.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:Definitely think they're out there, definitely think there's. Some of the most elite Hollywood figures are in the Illuminati. I believe the Illuminati 100%, not only because I know for a fact that it was a actual secret society back in like the 1700-1800s, but I definitely believe that it's still around today.
Speaker 2:You know it's a crazy one, which is also, whenever you do, if you ever do, an origins of it. I saw a conspiracy that fucking the guy who made the Illuminati Assasinated and replaced George Washington really another another conspiracy about it as well as that's that's how he, the Illuminati, got into America is the actual founder, himself killed, like, assassinated George Washington and then replaced him as the president, and all the actual depictions of George Washington are the same as the depictions of the, the. I forget his name, but the guy who made the Illuminati.
Speaker 1:And I'll have to look into that. That's interesting.
Speaker 2:Why I'll think about damn.
Speaker 1:All right, man. Well, we'll wrap it up here. Thanks for coming on tonight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks for having me man, this was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say I hope you, I hope you had fun. Yeah, had a lot of fun, man. Hopefully I opened your mind with some things. Don't be afraid to do some research. It is it. It can be a little scary, but I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2:What's fucked up is I'm probably gonna palette cleanse by watching some shit on Netflix and then, while I'm watching it, I'm like the people that are acting in this might very possibly be part of this shit. That's freaking me out right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just like, like I said, what watch what you watch. But like, keep note, for, like any triangles, pyramids, like the three fingers, the all seeing eye, one eye, just just keep an eye out for all that man, it, it, you'll see. You'll see a lot of shit that you Wouldn't have seen if you'd never, like, knew about this. Yeah, fuck, crazy, yeah. So, sean, thanks again for coming on. You can catch Sean at shots for thoughts.
Speaker 2:The shots and thoughts podcast. Where can they find you again? On Instagram, we are at SNT POD, s&t pod.
Speaker 1:All right, and you can find our podcast on Apple, Spotify, google, amazon, anywhere you really find podcast. You can follow us on Instagram at drunk conspiracy's podcast. I do have a Facebook discussion group called drunk conspiracy podcast discussion group, so Add it. Join. I will add you. This is another episode of drunk conspiracy podcast with the celebrities of in the Illuminati, sean. Thanks for coming on, man, it's been, it's been a good episode. Oh, yeah, man, it's been fun. Yep, I've been. Like I said, man, I love talking about Illuminati, so I've definitely enjoyed this, this episode. Hell, yeah, all right, man. Um, yeah, well, I'll be in touch with you about coming on your show and Having you and your, your other co-hosts, back on mine for another episode of something. Yeah, man, let's get it. All right, man, enjoy the rest of your night and thanks again All right, thank you, man.
Speaker 2:All right, have a good night you too, man. All right, bye, bye you.