Drunk Conspiracies

The Mandela Effect

February 02, 2024 Justin D'Autremont, Zachary Thomas Season 1 Episode 8
Drunk Conspiracies
The Mandela Effect
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Ever found yourself certain that a famous movie line was one way, only to discover it's something else entirely? My good friend Zach Thomas and I sure have, and we're cracking open the mystery—and a few cold ones—on the latest episode of Drunk Conspiracy. Join us as we meander through the bewildering world of the Mandela Effect, where our memories play tricks and pop culture is not always as we recall. From Darth Vader's real words to the non-existent hyphen in the Kit Kat logo, we're pouring out our thoughts on these shared delusions over a few drinks.

Have you ever remembered something so vividly only to find out you were wrong? Zach and I delve into that feeling with examples like the Monopoly Man's missing monocle and Curious George's tail that never was. We question the details of iconic moments, such as the number of people in JFK's car and whether it's "Sex and the City" or "Sex in the City." With each anecdote and misquote, we explore the tantalizing idea of alternate realities versus the simple slip-ups of our minds, all while reminiscing about our Tennessee origins and the paths that led us here.

As we wrap up, we ponder the enigma of why these collective memory gaps happen, touching on everything from Monopoly to movies. Zach, returning triumphantly to the podcast, brings a fresh perspective on the gaming scene, and we even tease the possibility of Twitch collaborations—because who doesn't love a good game? So, fill your glass and join us for an episode filled with laughter, debates, and the occasional spooky tidbit from asylums to movie set secrets. Here's to the memories we're sure we have... until we don't. Cheers!

Speaker 1:

Welcome to.

Speaker 2:

Drunk Conspiracy.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back to another episode of Drunk Conspiracy's podcast. Tonight's guest it's one of my homies from back home in Tennessee. I grew up with him. I think we've known each other since like the first grade.

Speaker 2:

It's a long time, a long time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so everybody welcome Zach, Thomas, hey, guys like you said we're friends from back home.

Speaker 2:

Just grew up chill with Justin, know him for, yeah, like you said, I don't know over about 30 years, about 30, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

A little over, probably around 25. Yeah, because we were about just out of kindergarten for around first grade. So I'd say around 25, 26 years, Damn yeah close.

Speaker 2:

It's a lot Me and Drew talked about it, yeah so, but yeah, guys, my name is Zach. I do a little streaming. If you ever are on Twitch, it's twitcht backslash XXZACHCityExit.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome. What are we drinking tonight, Zach?

Speaker 2:

Oh, just a little bit of. Mikkel Ultra had a little shot of Joe and Jack, a little bit of go, kind of ran out of it.

Speaker 1:

So you got nothing to take a shot now? No, not now. No, Damn I'm sorry man. You're good, I'll take a shot for the both of us.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I'm drinking my natural, naturally my nady daddies, but I also have. I can never pronounce this fucking beer company Lingen Logan, lee Logan, I don't know, it's like very, very wise, I don't know, it's pretty good, yeah, yeah, I can never pronounce that. I don't know if it's just me.

Speaker 2:

I would be drinking more sour beer to find some.

Speaker 1:

Is it hard to find them down there?

Speaker 2:

Oh God, it's all I mean like casual pine places you go that specifically do just beer. For anybody that doesn't know casual pine, that's just the place you go and they just have like a big board of like 30 different beers and you can have flights, do whatever, but going to like a store and trying to get some, it's real hard.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of hard up here too, but we actually I actually have one right here, if you can see it it's it's from, it's from Roque Brewing. It's a. It's a local brewery in Michigan and Royal Oak. This one's called the ice cream man, but it's it's a sour beer. It's a orange and vanilla sour. Oh, I have to try that. I love sour beer. That sounds real good. Yeah, sour beer is like my favorite beer. Oh, same same. Yeah, I love the sour. But let me take my shot real quick. Saloo. Oh, that was good. Oh yeah, my shot tonight was Jameson.

Speaker 2:

Oh, nice, nice, Nice shot.

Speaker 1:

I love my Irish with. Can't go wrong with some James. Can't go wrong?

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure if it's from any type of Irish whiskey and a Jack.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course. Yeah, naturally we're from Tennessee, so it's kind of frowned upon If, if you don't, if you don't drink it, just leave Tennessee. Exactly, exactly, all right. So tonight's episode is going to be on the Mandela effect. Mandela effect, pretty crazy.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure if you've heard about it. So before we talked about doing it it, I would say like I was like a big, like researcher into it. But there was times I'd go on the internet and be like, oh, things about Mandela effect, cause you hear little little things here and there about things like like Star Wars, for instance. You know the whole guy and your father, which is actually no, I am your father, but I mean, I remember Luke, I am your father. Right, I'm your father.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like, hey, I'm like a little boy, I'm like a little boy, you know I'm a little boy. I'm like, oh, this guy come up that little bit of.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, I mean me, I'm a, I'm, you know me, I've always been into conspiracies and and like, and when I tell people that they're there, they always think I'm just like a crazy conspiracy nut. But yeah, but that's not the way I see it. Like, I just like listening to them and like reading them, the conspiracies and every which way about them. So I don't just like hear it and I'm automatically like, oh shit, like yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's nice. Yeah, that's the good thing about conspiracies when you research it, you research not just one standpoint. You try to I mean to understand it. You have to understand not just what makes it true or untrue or true, but also what makes it untrue Right Understandable. So that's always a good thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure, but just just a little like a background about the Mandela effect. Um, like the definition is like, the Mandela effect is a situation in which a person or a group of people have a false memory of an event, basic, so which, not I mean. Who's to say that it's a false memory?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we could like be in like a parallel you know, yeah, or alternate reality, different timelines, which is crazy, you just yeah, right, cause a lot of people think that back in 2012,.

Speaker 1:

you know how the world was supposed to end. A lot of people believe the world did end in 2012. And once it did, once the world ended, we switched into a parallel universe and that's how we remember things back then. But they're supposedly never happened like that. You know what I mean. So so that's how they think, that's how we remember them from our the old universe.

Speaker 1:

And then, once the world ended, we switched into the parallel, you know which kind of, if you think about it, which, um, the next one I'll bring up, kind of fix in with the timeline, because, like, the first known Mandela effect was Nelson Mandela and that's, and, yeah, that's, that's how it got the name, because a lot of people believe Nelson Mandela died in prison. That can be the eighties, yet.

Speaker 2:

And then, what was her name? Um, it was like Fiona, I think. Fiona um started with the.

Speaker 1:

B yeah, it's something like that.

Speaker 2:

She was talking to a group of people and she was like remembering him dying in the eighties and all these people like, yeah, yeah, you know. And then you know, as we famously know, it was 2013. Right, which? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

it was 13. So which if, if the world did end in 2012 and we switched into parallel universe? The first known Mandela effect, because the same datrum is Nelson Mandela and he died in 2013. So it kind of the timeline fits, timeline does, yeah, I mean, but do you, do you remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison, or I mean.

Speaker 2:

So obviously I remember him dying, but one, I just wasn't one of those big guys that kept up with a lot of like um, but I remember him dying, but I couldn't tell you when. I mean, I couldn't tell you it was exactly, and I couldn't tell you he was in prison or he was like on the sidewalk or what. So I in 2013,.

Speaker 1:

When they announced that he had died it, I was shocked because I honestly felt he died back in the eighties. Because I'm I paid attention in history class Like I loved history. It was like one of my favorite subjects. I'm a big history buff. To me in my head, I remember him dying back in. I mean, I wasn't around in the eighties, I was born in 1990, but I remember growing up thinking and hearing that he died in prison in the eighties.

Speaker 2:

I remember people telling me about stuff like that I can, I can remember, so this one actually knowing that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So this one actually kind of confuses me, because I was like I thought he was already dead, but that's one of those things. Right, it's crazy Um this whole this, this conspiracy is pretty crazy. The Mandela effect it, it, it it.

Speaker 2:

It stinks because, like there's no like for all these Mandela effects that you can't really find. You know what I'm saying. Like you'll never be able to say this is what was really said when it like the Star Wars, Right? How do we know that? He never really said Luke, I'm your father, I remember it, I remember it, but you know there's so much things that go on that can make you remember it, but you can never have like a definite yes or no, Right.

Speaker 1:

And and with today's day and age, with like the Photoshop and all the technology we have to alter things, there's no way to actually tell if something's legit or has been altered and shit like that. Like if someone found proof from back in like the nineties of something they could have been altered, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's the other thing about the internet is so much information get spread out for the internet, false or true, and you get people who don't want to be the outcast when it comes to certain, when it comes to certain situations and ideas. So if somebody says, you know Nelson Mandela died in the eighties, and somebody's like, does it really know they're going to go more with yeah, I know that he did, you know. And then more and more people in that group.

Speaker 2:

There's been studies all the time where people have done events and they people made up events and they made to go first and say, like this happened yes, that's true and it'd be the wrong one, but the other people did want to go first, people didn't want to be the outcast.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's like a chain reaction. Yeah, so you know. But um, yeah, man, so I guess let's just jump into different Mandela effects. Um, we already did Nelson Mandela, cause that's technically like the first, the first, the one, the one, the one, yeah, cause it's named after it. So then the loop.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say let's go ahead and start with the Star Wars one. Okay so yeah, go ahead, take it.

Speaker 2:

It's okay, cool, cool. It's an episode five. The Empire strikes back. Um, everybody, if you've seen it, it's a big fight between Vader and Luke and it's the realization that you find out that Vader is actually Luke's father. Um, after this, after this long conversation not long, but after this conversation Luke says something like you killed my father. Well, apparently Vader used to say Luke, I am your father. But if you watch it today which I just watched it last night in preparation for this um is he does say no, I am your father.

Speaker 2:

And it's just, and it's one of those things that, like, you get so many people to know about it and there's so many different different versions of the movie and so much Eddie movie done, but you get so many people have seen it. That's like I know that, like I said, I truly have have always thought it was Luke. I am your father.

Speaker 1:

Right and um, so I'm. I'm going to confess something which will probably get a lot of hate and slack for this. Oh no, I didn't know it. I've only seen one Star Wars movie. Which one? It's the episode one. Maybe Do they have the bracing in at the pottery scene? I think so. Yeah, they had the little blonde haired kid. Yeah, that's Anakin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think it did it come out in like 2003.

Speaker 1:

We were young, I was around, I was around 13 when it came out.

Speaker 2:

I think me and you went to go. We may have.

Speaker 1:

Because I think I saw it.

Speaker 2:

I think my mom took us because we were going to meet some of my. We may have.

Speaker 1:

We may have actually, but yeah, to be honest, that's the only Star Wars movie I've ever seen, so Okay.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I mean, you know.

Speaker 1:

But growing up as a kid referencing movies and hearing other people referencing movies, I specifically remember it being Luke I am your father, Cause you know as a kid you get. You get one of like those house fans in your house and like people spoken to them to like change your voice. People did it all the time and the the one of the most popular sayings to say into the fan was Luke, I am your father.

Speaker 2:

And that's what's so crazy is because it isn't just like me and you remembering Luke. I'm your father. Millions of people remember this. Meet media. It's been on media, it's been on movies, it's been on TV shows.

Speaker 1:

It's been all the stuff it's been printed on like souvenirs, things Like like how, how can like millions and millions of people remember Luke, I am your father, but in reality it was never Luke, it was just no, I am your father. I don't believe it. That one, I don't believe that one, straight up tells me shit was altered, shit was altered. Shit was altered somewhere.

Speaker 2:

That one see, that's that's a thing, and with not just this one, but a lot of them there's it's. It's so hard because there's so many reasons to say, yeah, it is the Mandela effect. There's so reasons to say it's right, this one's hard for me. This one's hard for me, because I know there's a lot of editing that I think that happens there's. There's been a bunch of different versions of the original trilogy come out and different things happen.

Speaker 1:

But it but it with, like with editing and all that. There's got to be an original copy somewhere out there, or like multiple original copies, like if people had them from that, say it. But I mean, none have been brought to light, so I don't know. It's, it's crazy to think, um yeah, that one used me a little baffled.

Speaker 2:

I got another one from a movie, from another movie. Why, snow White. You've watched Snow White? Yup, you remember Mirror, mirror on the Wall. Who's the Ferris wheel of the mall?

Speaker 1:

Yup, it's Magic Mirror on the wall. Magic Mirror, yeah, I remember Mirror Mirror. Yeah, same thing, cause so many other things reference it too, like in Shrek the Lord um, what's the bar quad? He goes up and says Mirror Mirror, there's. There's even a movie called Mirror Mirror. That's about like Snow White it had, um, lily Collins in it and uh, oh, I've heard about that.

Speaker 2:

I didn't see it, but I heard it. Who else were?

Speaker 1:

Was it um what's her name? Something Roberts, julia Roberts, it was called. It was called Mirror Mirror.

Speaker 2:

And that's crazy. If you get a movie with the name title, that something's up, right.

Speaker 1:

But like it's that one is referenced so many times and I remember always saying Mirror Mirror on the wall, not Magic Mirror on the wall.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, never when. When I researched this and I saw that, I was like whoa, that's crazy, you know yeah.

Speaker 1:

So that one, that one, um, I don't know, it kind of baffles me as well. Um, I'm not too sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that one that was, that was a good one, that's one that I just it would be hard to find an original copy of almost any of these couple of movies that we do talk about for VHS Right. So that's the hard part, right.

Speaker 1:

Um, all right man, so yeah. So that one as well leaves me a little little curious on how how how true the Mandela effect is. Um, mine is. We'll just stick with the role of movies, because I have another movie, oh I already think I know what you're going to say. Forrest Gump.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Forrest Gump?

Speaker 1:

No, tell me about this one, you don't know that one.

Speaker 2:

No, okay.

Speaker 1:

I'll let you do the next one then, if you have another movie one. So Forrest Gump, we always remember he said well, my mama always said life is like a box of chocolate, right, yeah. That, that, that there's no way you tell me this is any different, Right, I've? I've said that since I was a kid life is like a box of chocolate. It's always been. Life is like a box of chocolate.

Speaker 2:

Everything mentioned like that, anything that mentioned that scene or that saying.

Speaker 1:

That's how it's said yes, I don't care what anyone says. You can never change my mind. I'm dead set on my my knowledge of it being. Life is like a box of chocolate. But that's not what she said. What did she say? Life is a box of chocolate. So it was never. Life is like a box of chocolates. It was. Life is a box of chocolate. See that even sounds weird. That even sounds weird, it does somewhere and I call bullshit yeah.

Speaker 2:

I have to agree with you on that one.

Speaker 1:

I don't believe it, so so that one right there like kind of puts me, like pushes me towards the whole Mandela effect is a real thing and that we live in a parallel universe.

Speaker 2:

There's, there's no way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was hard hitting. It is. Life is like a box of chocolate Absolutely, absolutely. And no one will ever convince me otherwise. Nope, I don't care what.

Speaker 2:

I see, I don't care if they're like watch the movie. Nope, nope.

Speaker 1:

But I end up doing the research on them. I saw a clip, and she does in the movie. She does say life is a box of chocolates, but that, just that, just makes me believe that we, all the world, did end in 2012 and then we jumped into a parallel universe and they altered everything we know. Oh man, that's so. So that's a crazy one, dude, that's a crazy one. So yeah, no matter what you tell me, I will always believe in say life is like a box of chocolate. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean that even just sounds born out, right, it does. Life is a box. No, no, shut your face, shut your.

Speaker 2:

You're done. You're done. I don't want to hear that You're wrong, right, exactly. The movie's wrong, exactly, all right, um, okay, so this one.

Speaker 1:

I after I mean, I think enough yeah.

Speaker 2:

After researching it and looking at it, I can't say I watched it, but I can remember it being around and just shazam was.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I have another one after this one, but yes, oh, you have another one.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but that one. And I remember being I remember not being a kid, but I remember, a couple of years ago, people talking about it and I could just remember seeing Sinbad in a shazam movie. Now I know, at that same time, like a Sam movie came out with Shaq and everybody's always like, well, uh, because they have Shaq movie. You know Sinbad was famous.

Speaker 1:

You know, maybe people messed up, whatever, I didn't watch it, but I can remember it being there, I can remember it being that, I can remember being that thing Right, cause, cause we all remember Shaq and that little kid in their horrible, horrible rap scene, because neither one of them can rap and I know Shaq tried to have a rapping career with basketball but it just didn't work. Um, but don't, don't get me wrong. I love that movie Cause I am. I love that movie, great movie, great 90s movie. Yeah, we all see.

Speaker 2:

No matter how bad Shaq was at acting, in my opinion it was awesome and I loved it and I love Shaq, he's got.

Speaker 1:

He's gotten better. Oh yeah, he has. I mean it was the early days, yeah, yeah, I mean it was the 90s, so but we, we all remember that. But I remember Sinbad as a fucking genie somewhere.

Speaker 2:

Did you watch?

Speaker 1:

it. You remember watching it. That's what I was going to get to. I don't, I cannot rip part of part of my mind tells me I have seen him in a movie called Shazam as a genie. Like I can, I can picture some of it. I can picture it too. Another part of my brains tell me you don't. I don't remember watching the movie, but I I certainly remember Sinbad as a genie. Yes, before, because Sinbad came out with like a comedy skit or whatever where he was dressed up as a genie but he was. But part of that skit was also making fun of other Mandela effect. Oh, so it was. So he did that after the fact of people saying I remember him as a genie. So it was already well known that it was a Mandela effect, that people said they remember him as a genie. He then came out and did a skit where it was just as a genie and but they also poked fun at other Mandela effect thing. So that was after the fact.

Speaker 2:

But I saw Sinbad as a and real quick some of it's Somewhere, not to interrupt you, but you know, the old saying is if you're trying to hide something and you're trying to make something seem like it's false, hide it in plain sight. Right, you know, make it a thing, make it a joke do something put it out there, to where people are like, oh, obviously this couldn't be this way to hide it.

Speaker 1:

But it's come out in interviews with him where he's like people will mention he'll laugh and they'll just be like no, I never-. I never a movie. But there's- and I did see, but that I saw something looking into it like this was years ago, though, but someone came out with like a poster for the movie Shazam, with him as a genie. But, like we said earlier, with what we have in the on the internet and effects and all that shit, it could have been altered. Someone could have just made it, which?

Speaker 2:

I believe that could have been easily made.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it could have been easily made but, like I said, part of my mind tells me I remember watching a movie with him as a genie, and part of me doesn't remember watching a movie, but I remember him as a genie.

Speaker 2:

I could just remember and I don't know if this could be I mean, this could be just my mom playing tricks on me but I just can remember this horrible scene where he has his like arms crossed and like the cameras panning around and lights are kind of flashing as it's smiling and just like and I can remember that and I've actually about six or seven years ago. I can remember some like I was watching something and it brought it up and I was like I remember that movie and researched it and kind of like shit Right, because I do think like remember it.

Speaker 1:

What I remember is him as the genie, but I remember him around like lockers or something like maybe in a school or somewhere with lockers. But what's weird is because a while back, when I was like looking into this more year some like maybe a year or two ago, I would I asked my wife about it. I'm like, do you remember this? And she said yes, she even described like the same colors of what he wore that I was thinking he was wearing, without us telling each other before.

Speaker 1:

So let me ask this All right, go ahead, go ahead. Which like was gold or like purple or something like that? Is that what I remember? And she even said the same thing. Okay, see mine's different.

Speaker 2:

I was just about to ask you wait, let me tell you what I thought. I thought he wore like a white like hat, turban thing, and like his shirt was red. I don't know Again. Like I said, I don't remember watching the movie, I just remember being a thing and I just and I can remember one little scene, maybe from like a commercial or something. That was it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Unless.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking of Shaq's character did he wear purple and gold? I thought he-. I thought it was gold. I didn't know it was purple, it could have been-.

Speaker 1:

He I think Shaq did have some gold in there, so I don't know. All I know is I remember Sinbad as a genie somewhere. I I fully believe it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's one of those it's one of those things, so you have another movie right.

Speaker 1:

I do. Did you ever watch Silence of the Lambs?

Speaker 2:

Oh man, years ago. Okay, I know what you're about to say, because I actually saw this. I didn't write it down because I couldn't 100% approve that. I've that was it or not, like what I remember, but I know what you're about to say.

Speaker 1:

Right, so real quick, though Fun Fact, because I like to throw Fun Facts into these episodes. Ooh, fun Fact Silence of the Lambs, when you know the scene where they walk downstairs in the asylum where the Hannibal's being held and they you got all these crazy patients like screaming and stuff. Those are real, actual patients in an assailant asylum up here in Pontiac Michigan. Wow, what, how did-, how did that asylum is no longer there. Which is more fucked up is they built a neighborhood over it, which that neighborhood is supposedly super haunted because it was built over an old psycho assailant asylum. I used to live like 10 minutes from it.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Like when I lived in Waterford. Pontiac and Waterford border each other. I used to go to Pontiac multiple times Like, so I know where that asylum is or where that neighborhood is, but it All those patients are real. It was so it was too dangerous to move them that they kept them there and just used them in the movie.

Speaker 2:

That's about to say like, how did they like there has to be some kind of like law thing. Right, you can't do that anymore.

Speaker 1:

But it was too dangerous to technically move them to use that location, but they filmed that the whole movie wasn't filmed in Michigan, I don't believe, but that part was filmed in an asylum in Pontiac Michigan that I used to live, like 10 minutes down the road.

Speaker 2:

Uh, yeah, I probably. If I was like a cameraman or something, like we're going to the asylum, there's real people here I would have probably been like I'm sick. Somebody else came in to take care of this.

Speaker 1:

Well, they were locked up, you would have been fine. No, not my lucky. We all know my luck. But, that was just a little fun fact. I like to throw fun facts into my life.

Speaker 2:

I like that. That's good, that's awesome. That's going to be something that could help you Right.

Speaker 1:

Most people don't know that, yeah, and I've driven by that place so many times. Yeah, do you remember when it was an asylum? I do I do, because a lot of people used to break in there and like explore the after it was closed oh yeah, they would because it was supposedly haunted. And when I came up to visit one year this was back when I was still in Tennessee I came up to visit and in fact I think it was the Chelsea came up with me one year.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And we were riding around town with my cousin CJ in like the middle of the night You've told me this.

Speaker 2:

You've told me this story.

Speaker 1:

We were going to break into the asylum, but they used to keep security there.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, yeah, I remember this.

Speaker 1:

We saw the security so we didn't do that. We ended up going and driving down downtown Detroit at like three in the morning. Is that when somebody like was like hey, white girl, yeah you know they were like we were downtown Detroit and they were yelling at us, yeah, and you were like keep going, like I-. No, I stopped and like looked, and then Chelsea and my cousin just kept walking.

Speaker 2:

I was like I guess somebody was I guess it was your cousin and then telling Chelsea just keep going Right, but my dumb my dumb ass actually stopped. You're like what, what's?

Speaker 1:

up. Guys Like what's up.

Speaker 2:

But, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was all the same night.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's just a little fun fact. It was filmed here, but you always remember people saying hello, clarice, right, yeah, that's always been a it's always been something people say for years, for years, many years.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's Not even watching the movie, not even remembering the movie. I know that's that's the line and I don't care what you tell me right now. Or?

Speaker 1:

anybody else tells me. No, he never says hello Clarice. He says good evening, Clarice. No, no. I call bullshit on it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it would be different if it was like, instead of saying hello, he said, hey, Right, you know even the magic mirror, even though I don't believe the magic mirror one. But it would be easier to understand. You know magic or mirror, and magic mirror that's that's okay.

Speaker 1:

But good evening and hello to no Bullshit if you are oh yeah, i-, I and it's been referenced in so many other films and stuff where they're like hello, clarice, like it's I remember it Now. If you go back and watch it now, it does say good evening, but I call bullshit because I remember saying always saying hello.

Speaker 2:

Clarice, I remember when that movie came out and I didn't watch it because I mean, you knew I lived with, like my grandparents and my mom, so I didn't watch a lot of stuff growing up, um, but I can remember- I had a poor family though. Yeah, so your family. The times I went to your house was the times I was able to watch scary stuff.

Speaker 1:

Right, I was watching like Halloween and shit when I was three. Your house was the first house.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what got me scared to Chucky, because you guys were watching. Chucky and I was like I'm out and I couldn't watch Chucky. It probably until I was like 12, chucky scared me. I don't know why. That's awesome so. But I can remember when that came out Again, I didn't watch it, but I can remember everybody telling me that and I'm just like that's weird. I can remember even saying that's like even people saying it just as like a joke. That's a weird thing to say. Right, you know?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like, yeah, I don't care what you say. Again, like not you, but like what anyone says it's hello, clarice, it's always been. Hello, clarice. Um, that's just a perfect, another perfect example that we do live in a parallel universe, because I remember it differently. I do. Yeah, good evening, clarice. Just doesn't sound right.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't doesn't even. Yeah, it doesn't sound good, so it doesn't sound good. Um, I don't have any other movie ones.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any other movie ones? I was going to say I think that's the last of my movie ones, Um, unless I come across one coming down my list, but jumping into other ones. Um, we had. Uh, what I have on here is JFK's assassination.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, yeah, let's go over this one.

Speaker 1:

I just learned about this one today. Yeah, I never knew this was a Mandela effect. Yeah, that's that's here. You remember seeing pictures in history class and other shit like that of the car right Him in the car? How many people do you remember in the car?

Speaker 2:

Okay, oh, wow, the driver, him and his wife. So you remember about three, three, maybe four, maybe four, somebody in the passenger, but I think it was just three. Wait, maybe it was four. Maybe the the passenger was also, because I can remember the famous pictures like after he was shot, like his wife kind of like jumping over to him.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's the one of him, like waving his hand, like waving.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And then you have the other ones of him like slow, slow stuver and his wife like he's jumping over. So so you remember three to four people, right.

Speaker 2:

Three, maybe four. I'm kind of.

Speaker 1:

I remember four. I remember the driver, I remember the passenger. Yeah, I remember JFK and I remember his wife because I've done research into this and I just remember that because and I'll get into the because me and my wife are going to do JFK assassination probably my next episode, so I'll get more into this but because I remember reading that JFK was shot either by the driver or the passenger.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

No, no, just stay tuned for that episode. I won't get more into this, but stay, but stay tuned for that.

Speaker 2:

I've got to hear that because that's crazy, because that's the only sort of a sniper Right.

Speaker 1:

That's not everyone thought, but next episode. Anyways, there were six people in that car.

Speaker 2:

There's no my thought, my thoughts, exactly how did these six people even fit in that car?

Speaker 1:

That car was designed to hold more people, so you have your driver. You had a passenger who were secret service. Then you had two other people in the middle which I probably should have looked more into. That I probably will for my next episode.

Speaker 2:

I don't even remember a middle.

Speaker 1:

See, I don't either. But now, when you look at pictures of it, there is, but there's two people in the middle and then there's JFK and his wife in the back. But what also throws me about this is because, like, like I said, I've done my research for it and it's it's claimed that either the driver, the passenger, shot JFK. Like how is that possible if there were two other people in the middle? That's crazy, cause I remember four people.

Speaker 2:

I remember four and I'm looking at a picture of this and I'm going to tell you I don't know if they moved or not, but I can tell you right now, from this picture, him and his wife are opposite. So if you're looking at the car, if the car has come into a dream, you're looking at the car. I remember JFK being on the ride and his wife why Left? The picture I'm looking at is the picture. If you're looking at it, the car's coming towards you. She's on the right, he's on the left. What? Oh, I don't know if you can see it, how well you can see it.

Speaker 1:

Can you see it at all? A little bit yeah. But yeah just see if, if the car's coming toward me, I remember him being on the right and her being on the left.

Speaker 2:

Look up literally JFK assassination pick, and it's the first one in images and it has two, two serious servicemen in the front, two in the middle, him or her on the right, him on the left and the back. Now maybe they could have moved there and the whole thing. But I mean, I've seen these other pictures and it's showing that oh, man, that's no good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's showing. Yeah, shit, I don't know. Maybe now I'm trying to remember it, because I'm trying to remember it from the back, with him slouched over and you see them in the back because she's in the left, jumping over to the right side trying to grab him.

Speaker 2:

Well, her left or right, if we're looking at the car, I remember it flipped.

Speaker 1:

That's so crazy, see. See, now my mind's even more blown. It's conspiracies, right, but I remember four people. I remember a driver, a passenger, and then JFK and his wife. Mm-hmm, I don't know, that's, that's.

Speaker 2:

I've never seen before because, like again, if they did it, then how? And second the picture, the famous picture of her jumping over, from what I remember, my nigga after he was shot. She's the only one jumping over and in my opinion in my opinion, if there was a shot that goes on, their reaction would be huddle him, no matter if he was hit already or not. Wouldn't it be to huddle like as a secret service member?

Speaker 1:

I think it would have been to hover over him and it didn't happen Because, remember, the first shot actually missed. I think, if I remember correctly, the first shot actually missed, the second one is what hit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that sounds familiar. That sounds familiar.

Speaker 1:

I mean obviously from my memory of it. Anyways, I'm already wrong because I remember more people and I remember him and his wife flipped in the car. Do you remember the color of the car?

Speaker 2:

Was it black? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it was blue, but I mean that's also, that's one of those things, that's probably just. I saw something.

Speaker 1:

I mean it could be blue, it could be like a dark blue, but I remember I know it's a dark color, I just I just always assumed it was a black beat. Yeah, that's crazy. Do you have another one? I guess we can just like take turns. Yeah, if you want to do that.

Speaker 2:

So this is nothing to do with. I know at the beginning was the whole. We did the whole movie. This one's obviously not a normal JFK. But here's another famous one and I'm pretty sure you know this. If you didn't read it yourself, it's because I did when I was a kid and it was what B you, nick and Jackson, us four were like the group.

Speaker 1:

Oh, back in like middle school.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, bernstein Bears. Yup, I know it very well. How do you remember?

Speaker 2:

it. Oh man, I just remember. I just remember the A. I mean Bernstein or E. So I burn Steen Bears, but it's Bernstein Bears.

Speaker 1:

It's with an A, not an E.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What they say. I'll tell you right now. Man, I'm 31 years old. I still pronounce it Bernstein Bears.

Speaker 2:

Same. I can remember my grandma. I remember vividly my grandmother reading it to me when I was even younger than I would do it. I had like.

Speaker 1:

I had almost like all the books when I was a kid Same, and to this day I say Bernstein. I don't say Bernstein and that doesn't again. That doesn't even sound like good, no, it doesn't, it just sounds awful, like Bernstein just rules out like I don't know if it's just me. No, I was researching it and I was like. I've never once called it Bernstein Bears. It's Bernstein. There's an E, there's no A. And then that's another perfect example of you not being able to change my mind.

Speaker 2:

I know that's. That's what's so crazy. I just remember those. We used to have those where we would go oh what were they called? But you would. You would go and buy books and posters and pencils and erasers.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the book fair. Yeah, the library.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. You go in with 20 bucks you walk it out with like a fur coat.

Speaker 1:

In a post, yeah, in a poster of a Lamborghini.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I could remember going to those and getting those books. Yes, yes, because like my big thing was like that was like me, my grandma, she liked me, me reading those books to her because obviously so that was something we grew up on, even when I was like a toddler. So that was like a thing between us and I remember going and getting those and I remember being Bernstein and I remember saying Bernstein and her not correcting me and I remember her saying Bernstein.

Speaker 1:

What's even funnier is that's probably the last time I read a book I don't read. I hate reading, I hate reading.

Speaker 2:

Certain things I like reading Right.

Speaker 1:

Certain things.

Speaker 2:

It has to if it doesn't catch my like vibe within the summary. Yeah, there's not a lot of stuff like I have, like Tim Tebow's book and Dwayne Wade's book. Obviously, you know I have those and I like those. And then I have like a Marvel encyclopedia and stuff, right.

Speaker 1:

No, dude, I definitely remember Bernstein beers. I don't. I've never once said Bernstein bears. I don't believe there's an A in there, I believe it's an E and you'll never change my mind mind. Yeah, but but the author of the book and the publishers were like it's always been Bernstein, it's always been an A, and I'm just like you're part of the cover-up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, there could be things.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to sound like a crazy conspiracy nut, but they're part of the cover-up. Like it's, bernstein, I don't care what anyone says. All right, I guess this is my turn to go. Monopoly man have you seen this? Have you heard this one?

Speaker 2:

I know there's something. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1:

All right, you've played Monopoly before. Right Love Monopoly Picture the man, the Monopoly man. Now, do you remember him having a molecule? Yeah, of course, the little glass eye.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he don't know. Now there's no way.

Speaker 1:

He has one.

Speaker 2:

You can't tell me he doesn't.

Speaker 1:

He's never had it, there's no way. No, no Right. I always thought it too, but then again, you know, you know, planters peanuts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That mascot does have one. He has a monocle. So I don't know if people just like think of him when they see it, but upon my research of this, I saw a clip of Ace Vendura Pet Detective. Yeah, there's a scene where Jim Carrey standing there at like a party or something and a girl and a guy like walk up to him and the guy has a monocle on and he's dressed in a suit and Ace Vendura says oh, you must be the monopoly man. How are you going to tell me a movie referenced him with a monocle as the monopoly man and you're telling me he's never had one this whole time?

Speaker 2:

Dude, I don't care what anybody said, that one out of any of these is the biggest bullshit that he's had.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, people could think that they could be thinking of the planters' peanuts guy, because he does have one. But, like I said, like that Ace Vendura referenced it, millions of people remember him having it. I feel like I remember him always having one, but apparently he never did. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I kind of call bullshit, yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That's another one where I'm not too sure about Like it could go all the way, dude, I will tell you right now, I had a monocle.

Speaker 2:

I remember because I can remember playing when I was a kid. I can remember playing the regular monopoly one and then like 2000 monopoly and then I can remember even playing Pokemon monopoly. Like I grew up playing monopoly, I didn't play it that often.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't a huge fan of it. I liked it. It was boys and girls type stuff, right, but I so I don't know if my mind just is seeing the planters' peanuts guy With one and thinking the monopoly guy had one, but so I'm that one kind of I'm splitting the middle with.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I am truly 100%. He had a mom.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough. All right, how about this one?

Speaker 2:

Now, I was a little older when this came out, but I could, everybody knows, curious Right. Apparently never had a tail.

Speaker 1:

Right, I don't, that's. That's another one where I'm not sure about, because like I see pictures of him with the tail, like looking this up, and I'm like, oh, he had a tail, and then there's other pictures that I'll see that he doesn't have a tail and I'm like, oh, he didn't have a tail. So like I'm torn between this one, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. Do you? What's your take on it?

Speaker 2:

Mine is just more of. I remember a tail and I don't know if it's just because it's supposed to be a monkey, right, and you know, monkeys have tails like self consciously, you think, you think the other thing. The other thing is again we were a little bit older when it came out.

Speaker 1:

So we were yeah, when did curious George come out?

Speaker 2:

I want to say we were like 10 or 11. Where are we? Maybe even maybe a little bit younger, but that was like for four or five years.

Speaker 1:

You know, at first I know I never watched it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I never watched it. I remember when it first came out. It was for like four or five years. They remember getting a little bit older, like 12, 13, and then they revamped it for like 90, you know they're trying to catch up with their ages, but I always remember to tell See, I'm torn between I because like I do, and I don't, you know.

Speaker 1:

so that would that one kind of that.

Speaker 2:

I will agree with you on it. I want to say I remember it, but the more I think about it I could say he didn't, because I just think of a monkey, I'm automatically mine's going to put a tail on right yeah so yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I, we agree on that one. We're kind of torn with it. I'm not sure it could be either. It could go either way with yeah, all right, man. So the next one, kick, have ours. Yes, do you remember the packaging? They were orange Say in the nine, red, reddish orange. Yeah, yeah, yeah, reddish orange Say I'm talking about. Do you remember from the 90s, like when we were kids? Early in the 90s, early 2000. Do you, do you remember Kit Kat with a hyphen in the middle?

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, absolutely you do.

Speaker 1:

Yes, there's never been a hyphen. Hmm, it's just Kit Kat.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, I wasn't the biggest Kit Kat fan ever, but I enjoyed the nice Kit Kat in there. I talked about scotch. I always drink scotch but I remember then being a hyphen because I can remember the packages like orange red, and then there was like the oval and then I can remember kit hyphen, dash.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. See, that's another one where I'm kind of confused, like I feel like I remember a hyphen in it, but at the same time, when I see a picture of it without a hyphen, I'm just like maybe that is what I remember, but apparently there was never a hyphen. It's just Kit Kat with no hyphen.

Speaker 2:

Have you eaten one lightly and like looked at it.

Speaker 1:

I never pay attention to the fucking rapper.

Speaker 2:

I'm just working about the piece of candy. Yeah, no, I'm just like give me the.

Speaker 1:

I was like give me the goddamn chocolate, I want the candy. Like I don't care about the rapper, no.

Speaker 2:

I get it, I get it.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, like, I'm just like dude.

Speaker 2:

Next time I'm going to have to go to a store because I don't do a lot of sweet, so I'm going to have to go to the store and look for Kit.

Speaker 1:

Kat bars, just look at it. Yeah, you'll see it, with no hyphen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's what's going to be crazy, because I'm just like that's not right. I'm going to ask people like what do you think? I'll ask you in the store.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and another thing, though with stuff like that is like companies can always change their logos. You know what I mean. But what makes it like part of the Mandela effect is like these companies say oh, that hyphen was never there.

Speaker 2:

We never had a hyphen. Why? Why hide?

Speaker 1:

it Right. Like Kit Kat always claims, there was never a hyphen. So it's not like they just changed the design, took the hyphen out and just called a Kit Kat after a while. Apparently, the hyphen was never there, which that it kind of confused me because, like I said, part of me feels like I remember seeing a hyphen that could be wrong.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want to say there was always a hyphen. But again I just, I mean, I don't know, I can't ask the Kit Kat, hey, was there a hyphen?

Speaker 1:

Don't tell you there wasn't the light. They'll lie straight to your face, that's so crazy.

Speaker 2:

But why, why, why would you lie about a?

Speaker 1:

hyphen. Again, I'm going to sound like a crazy conspiracy nut, but they're part of the cover.

Speaker 2:

I just don't know things like you have all these events, that happen, and again maybe all these events are totally wrong, but you have all these events that happen, that we know for a fact. Happened these big major events. But the Mandela effect effecting the hyphen in the Kit Kat logo, I don't know, maybe it is what it is, I don't know, I don't remember it, but that would be, yeah, another weird one for breeze.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

How do you spell for breeze?

Speaker 1:

Don't, don't make me try to spell right now. I've been drinking OK.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 1:

But I, I feel, I feel like maybe I remember two E's Right.

Speaker 2:

There's always like two E's. Oh, like it's E B R E, e E, right, nope.

Speaker 1:

But there's only one E. I phrase it to me, I know, I don't know. That's another one where I'm like maybe it, maybe it always has been one E, but at the same time I remember, I feel like I remember seeing two E.

Speaker 2:

I would have to. I would have to say I remember two E's, because I can even kind of remember commercials using the two E's as like a and their logo with like spraying or something, and they form the ease and they make the. I can remember, I can remember that.

Speaker 1:

In. Second of all, wouldn't the correct spelling be two E's?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Not one E, like it would be breezes to. So yeah, I don't know. My in my head I feel like I saw two E's and now it's only one, so I don't know if everyone just changed the label Tommy one day.

Speaker 2:

They're just like fuck it. Let's fuck with Zach and Justin and hopefully they make an episode about this Right.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's been on it.

Speaker 2:

Everybody, from Drew to the president.

Speaker 1:

Right, I don't know. I feel like I remember two E's, I feel like it's always been for for breeze with two E's and not one like, so I kind of lean more on this one. I lean more towards it's part of the Mandela effect, like they all turn it in the universe.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, I agree, they all yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, no way around it. For, in my opinion, another one. I'll just jump down my list Peanut butter, jeff, peanut butter.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jeff.

Speaker 1:

You know Jeff, peanut butter, right. Do you know it as just Jeff, like J I F, or do you remember it, j F, j, f, j I F, f. Why Jiffy, jiffy, you remember, you remember Jiffy. It's never, never once has it been ever like spelled out Jiffy. It's always been Jiff.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, so you always want me to listen to this. I think we've like just agree with each other, but 100%, this is. I remember Jiffy peanut butter.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, I feel like I do too. That's another one where I'm kind of torn because I remember this.

Speaker 2:

I can remember this exactly. You came over one day and we had like six different bottles of peanut butter and you were just I loved it. But you thought it. You thought it was like weird that I had like not six cans but six different varieties. And I can remember us talking about Jiffy was the better out of the six. So Jiffy, then chunky pan or something and then some off brand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I can remember. You even say, and I can even remember to this day You're like Jiffy is the best.

Speaker 1:

Oh for sure, like you, don't fuck with Jeff or Jiffy, whichever the fucking it really is. What are they going by now? Because I'm, I'm, I love peanut butter. I'm a peanut butter snob, like no shame in my game. I love it, I eat, I'm the type to buy a. I'll go to the store and I'll buy two, two jars of peanut butter, one for everyone in the house to use. And if my, if my son wants a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, I'll make my son a peanut butter.

Speaker 2:

Good sandwich to go for.

Speaker 1:

The other jar is for me to grab a spoon, sit down on the couch and just eat it out of the jar, because I have no, no fucks given.

Speaker 2:

I can't do that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I can eat a whole jar.

Speaker 2:

The only way I can eat celery is dipping it.

Speaker 1:

I don't mind celery and peanut butter. I like apples and peanut butter. That's good to yeah. So, I don't mind celery though too. But um, but no man I. I think this is another war. I'm kind of torn because now I do know it as Jiff peanut butter, just J, I F, but like I don't know if it's like self consciously in the back of my mind, I remember Jiffy peanut butter.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 1:

It just it doesn't even just to me, doesn't look right, I, I don't, I don't know, man, I wish I had a time machine where I could go back in time and talk to I wish I, I, yeah, I knew all these things were going to happen and I like it's Jiffy, not Jiff, or if it is Jiff, it's never been right, right, yeah, because.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, it's crazy. Another one I think I wish I could have told myself now you remember how big of a Pokemon that I was.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we both were man, I used to you remember going to books a million. They played the car kids because we would have.

Speaker 2:

Yes we didn't battle, battle people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we didn't go to get all the time nerds right now.

Speaker 2:

I don't care, I don't go right now, no we run my cards and run.

Speaker 1:

No, but we'd run into each other up there yeah.

Speaker 2:

But sometimes we went together because we knew yeah.

Speaker 1:

And we, we used to well, we used to live like you lived right up the hill for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I used to live in Drew's old apartment. Yeah, yeah, and so I mean it was me and me and drew have the same goddamn bedroom.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. I don't even know who lives there now, but in Pokemon, pikachu's tail black and of it.

Speaker 1:

I remember black.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there was never.

Speaker 1:

No, because his ears have the black tip. You cannot tell me yeah, you cannot tell me. You made Pikachu with black tipped ears, but his tail never had a black tip.

Speaker 2:

because I can remember an episode when I was confused because he met another Pikachu who had a different style tail shape and no black in it and I was like, aren't all Pikachu supposed to have black in it, right, yeah, so I call 100%. I mean again, I call bullshit on that one. I was the kid in school that wore the Pokemon shirts, had Pokemon blind or drop Pokemon cards school.

Speaker 1:

Right and I wish I don't my cards. Yeah, I've been. I've been by my son Pokemon cards.

Speaker 2:

God, I've been watching this guy Shout out to Leon Hart 54 if he ever heard this but he, I'll tag him in somewhere. Yeah, he opens old first generation like first packs.

Speaker 1:

I think I've watched that guy on YouTube and it's so nostalgic and I'm just sitting there like it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy, but not to jump off too much of the subject, but I think they'll remember now I've I've recently watched some of the anime or whatever, because this, this new season, is actually cool. It takes a lot of place, like you get to meet a lot of old people and it's a lot it's good for, like, our generation. But he doesn't have. It's like to know.

Speaker 1:

I don't watch it too much just because, like, once they started adding Pokemon, I kind of fell off of it. I'm like I'm I don't know if it's just me I know a lot of people like the new additions and shit like that and I know it's good for like new generations of kids, like my son, for instance. He's he's five, so he's coming up, he watches Pokemon, he likes Pokemon and shit.

Speaker 2:

The new anime man. I'll tell you the new anime you could watch with him because, like this new episode, ash goes back to Palatown, meets Gary and they fight Maltras All right, but for me, in my mind, there is only 150 Pokemon. Yeah, there's a lot like the original set.

Speaker 1:

I know, for me it's just like anything after like 150. I don't fucking count, I don't believe this. That's just me, though. That's just me, though. Like I'm pure fuck. I'm a 90s baby through and through. I don't believe in this extra shit. But no man, but I strictly. I believe Pikachu had black tip on his tail and anyone who disagrees with me, you can come and catch his hands, catch me outside. How about that? Right, I'll fight you. I'll fight you every day. No, pikachu had a black tail or the tip of it.

Speaker 2:

The tip of it, yeah, the tip of it, yeah yeah, yeah, and it was jagged at the bottom of where the black end Right, yes, but no, that's what we remember that. How crazy. Yeah, that's it Right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's, it's, I don't know, it's crazy Jumping into another one. Oh, I did skip a movie one.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're.

Speaker 1:

OK, movie, slash TV, all right. I've never watched this until I met my wife because she watches it. But sex in the city.

Speaker 2:

I know this conspiracy. Never watched it so I don't know the conspiracy.

Speaker 1:

But how do you remember people? How do you? How do you remember it? How do you remember the title of it?

Speaker 2:

OK, I remember sex and the city or sex in the city in the city.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so do I. It's sex and the city. Well, that's why my wife remembers it as sex and the city. Ok, she tells me it's sex and the city. Me, in my mind, ever since I was kid, I've always said sex in the city.

Speaker 2:

See, try to go talk about it. When I accidentally said and always I said that because that sounds better- because I don't think a show would sell as sex and the city Right, you know.

Speaker 1:

I get that in another part of like my research on this. A lot of people say that some people because it kind of like ties it, like it kind of tongue twist in together and so it says some people says, instead of saying sex and the city, they're like sex in the city. Yeah, like as one word in the, in the, in an, and when you say it fast, kind of like comes into each other. Yeah, that one, that one I don't know because, like I said, I never watched the show. It's not like I watched it religiously as a kid, like we did Pokemon.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, so, so with that one for me, I do remember sex in the city, but that could just be me, so it could be sex and the city, which apparently it is, but I would have to. I remember sex in the city.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would have to go with. I want to say sex in the city, but again, never watched it, I never thought about it.

Speaker 1:

Right, so that's one that I know I couldn't really fight about, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I would. I would probably lean more, just because it would make more sense to be called sex in the city and right in the city and the city? Yeah, not in the city. Then it would sex in the city.

Speaker 1:

So I agree with you 100% on that. It just sounds better. But I, I've always I vote, but I've always said sex and I don't know. Right, I'm confused. I got a good one All right Fruit of the loom logo.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you know what I'm talking about that was because that, when we were like pre teens to teenagers, like early teens, that was what you got.

Speaker 1:

I shit you not the boxer briefs I'm wearing right now. Fruit of the loom.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so rock that shit. Yeah, do you. Ok, if you look at it, you know what a quarter Kobe is right.

Speaker 1:

I do the little we.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like it's almost like a wooden basket. It's more of like yes, it kind of looks like a Viking, like if you ever think of some of Viking drinks out of words like a horn, almost right moded basket next straight. Yes, I remember them being a quarta copiah.

Speaker 1:

But I didn't see it. Was it? Apparently there's not, apparently there's not. I call bullshit. I call bullshit because I changed my mind?

Speaker 2:

Yes, Like there's, it's always been there because that was. That's the whole thing, in my opinion, is Photos and stuff always have a cornucopia.

Speaker 1:

So food, yeah, yeah so right because why the fuck would you just have fruit yeah, you call fruit of the loom and just have fruit there with I don't know, that's another one. If you, you ever want to catch these hands, yeah, maybe outside, yeah, that's not how about that, but, like I, I remember a cornucopia. You, you can't change my mind. Um, it's there, it's, it's just there. I don't, I don't know. Um, all right, well, my turn. Um, did you ever watch mr Rogers? Yeah, oh, of course I love mr. I didn't. I never watched it.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so but, but I remember the theme song. It would be a minute. How, how do you remember the, the opening line?

Speaker 2:

It's a oh god, I couldn't remember, I couldn't remember the?

Speaker 1:

do you remember it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood? I always thought it was a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

Speaker 2:

No, it's beautiful, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1:

See, I remember him always, like, like I said, I never watched it, but I am familiar with it. Yeah, I, I remember it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, oh okay, now, okay, now that you said like that, that makes so.

Speaker 2:

So what's the?

Speaker 1:

what? What is it? It's a beautiful day in in this neighborhood. That's another one that just doesn't sound right. Again now mr Rogers came out with but what? I don't even, I don't, yeah, I don't remember, but I never, I never watched mr I know it.

Speaker 2:

I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to do it in my head. I it sounds like it could be. It sounds so I can't really say. It doesn't even sound right.

Speaker 1:

To me. It doesn't sound right, though, to me. No, to me a beautiful day in this neighborhood. I I guess it could flow fine, but in my mind it doesn't sound right. In my mind I remember it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood because there's Saturday night live sketches with eddie murphy.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, actually that he just did a new one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, where he comes in and like um, I forgot what he says, but it's like a beautiful day in this the ghetto, or it's a beautiful day in the ghetto or something in the hood or something like that, but it to me it's never been. It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood. It's always been a beautiful day in the neighborhood, but apparently my mind is wrong and I don't agree with it. I, I remember it a beautiful day in the neighborhood and and to me that just sounds better, but, like I said, it does it. A beautiful day in this neighborhood does flow. I could see it being that, but I remember a beautiful day in the neighborhood, but, like I said, I'm not, I wasn't big, I miss a Rogers.

Speaker 2:

I was, but I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you if I agree or disagree. Okay, all right, I did miss movie one too.

Speaker 1:

now I know you don't want star wars, but I know you're, I know you're gonna do. Tell me, when you think of cp3o, that motherfucker was all gold.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I, I love star right now.

Speaker 2:

Now, I didn't love star wars until I I didn't truly like become a fanatic of it, till I got Right, you know, but I but I knew, but going into this, I knew you like star war, I know you love star wars and shit.

Speaker 1:

So when I was doing my research I was like Zach, zach is gonna know, like like the star wars ones, like for sure. But like I said, I've only seen the one movie and I'm sorry to my listeners who are probably like when you hear this or fucking like throwing shit because they're like how the fuck have you only seen because I'm a huge movie buff, but I've never seen the star wars moves. I, I should watch them. I want, I kind of want to watch them.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, they're good. I mean, yeah, it's one of those that you would have to sit down and watch, but yeah for sure, but I remember cp3o being all fucking gold because I came in with star wars stuff, that clothes books are not books but clothes and a pair. You know things. Because I was, right, one of those nerdy kids that liked all that Nerdist right, which is typical now, but uh, right it's weird right. Yeah, all the stuff that I got used to get made fun of is now like.

Speaker 1:

I know we're going off a little bit, but champion used to get beat up and picked on if you wore champion. Like their shirts are only like three or four dollars right, and now they're like $50 a t-shirt and it's the cool thing to do. Yeah, I'm like fuck off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fuck you Fuck. I remember. I remember him being all gold.

Speaker 1:

So do I, but he has a silver leg right.

Speaker 2:

Yep, it says he has a silver. I think it's his left leg left, left. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, say he has you a left leg. I don't believe it. I just I don't remember it like that. And again I started watching star wars with episode one with the pod racing and young egg blonde hair. But I really got into it right after that and watched the old ones with my grandpa, you remember and.

Speaker 2:

I remember watching with my uncle. I can remember sitting in the living room watching the old ones on bhs With us three because nobody else wanted to watch it. And then it yeah you cannot tell me there's no way. And again, catch me outside if you think it's so.

Speaker 1:

Great, yeah, it's in in my head. It just doesn't make sense. Why would you make this, this dude, all gold Except for his left leg, and only like from the shin down Now?

Speaker 2:

I could, it's not even his whole leg.

Speaker 1:

It's just yeah there are things.

Speaker 2:

So I will say as much I don't believe it was silver, but if you watch episode one, you cc3 pob built, he's all silver and he's wired and as as the trilogy's progressed he becomes different. Like at one point he gets red, but anyways he's a red arm, but anyways, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd have to watch it. It's crazy, it's, it's good, but it was supposed to be a big thing of something about him. I can't losing the leg or something, except, but yeah, I don't remember it's over at all.

Speaker 1:

I don't, I don't either. Um, yeah, that's definitely one that I don't. I don't think was um, no, it just doesn't make sense to me, like, not even if I remember it correctly, because I've never seen the movies, but I know who cp3o is. Like, I know the characters of it. Um, it just one. It just doesn't make sense that you just randomly give them a silver fucking leg and then I just remember them being all gold, yeah, but I don't know could be wrong, who knows. Um, my next. Oh, I'm gonna save this one for last, because I think I debunked one. You think you debunked one. Oh, I debunked one. So we'll save this one for last, though, all right, all right, all right.

Speaker 2:

So if I go ahead, if you want to do one, no, no. But I'm saying, if I start talking about the one, and it's that one, I'll stop you.

Speaker 1:

I'll stop you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, cool, so go on with your next one then.

Speaker 1:

Okay, oscamire hot dogs.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, that was one. Oh man, I was about to get into into how do you remember it?

Speaker 1:

Hey, you remember an a. Yeah, I remember. See for me, I don't. I remember it with an e, I remember with an a, because I remember I think. All right, let me ask you something. How do you? How do you pronounce it? How do you pronounce it? Oscar meyer, do you? Yeah, because I pronounce it oscramire. I never once called it oscramayer, like if. If you read it with an, a, it's fucking meyer.

Speaker 2:

I never want to Still it's still. It's like. It's like I don't want to say hi pitch a, but it's. You know what I'm trying to say. I.

Speaker 1:

I get what you're saying, but no dude, for me it's, it's always been an e oscramire, because I pronounce it meyer, I don't put it same major. So so did we finally find one we disagree about. Yep.

Speaker 2:

I remember an a. I remember an a because I could just remember I thought it was so cool the oscramire Mayer, whatever weiner car, and I always wanted that to come. I wrote letters trying to get that to come to our school man. Yes that, and if you remember the little stick figure on like, that's awesome oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I always wanted I always wanted Nickelodeon to come to our school. Yeah, they were, they were gonna come to pigeon force. Oh no, which you think they would, because it's a tourist area. But did you know what dolly what they had to Nickelodeon thing. They did. I remember it my um. I wanted to go up there and get slimed, so bad my grandpa took me there and he let me get slimed.

Speaker 2:

It was cool.

Speaker 1:

Oh dude, well you, they had to pick you. I remember they, they picked. No, I was like screaming my head off. They picked the kid behind me to come up there and he's the one who got slimed. I was so pissed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I can remember my grandpa worked at dollywood and he knew the people that were kind of helping Whoever with Nickelodeon or whatever was or whoever was running it, and I could just remember I got to get slimed. It's so lucky, dude I'm. So I felt dude, I walked out like uh, oh, dude, just like.

Speaker 1:

I would have walked out of there with the slime mommy like I had the biggest nuts in the world.

Speaker 2:

Dude, you know a fat joe doing that lean, lean back. That's how I feel like I should have been walking, just like walk every time, and lean back, dude, that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

No, but uh, now that you think about the, now that I picture the, the wiener mobile, I know that's not weird, sounds weird.

Speaker 2:

That's what it is. It's the wiener mobile.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I do remember an a like as I'm picturing it with my eyes closed. I'm looking at it, maybe I do. Maybe I do remember it with an a, but in my mind I've always called it Oscar Meyer the issue. So maybe when I see it, when I see this Mandela effect about it, I think it's er because I pronounce it er. I don't pronounce it with an a.

Speaker 2:

I. The issue, I think, also is, if you remember the song, they always had little kids. I wish I could be an Oscar Meyer wiener Right, and kids don't pronounce words like they should all the time. I mean, I'm an adult and I don't always pronounce words correctly.

Speaker 1:

Well, you try. You heard me in the earlier episode trying to pronounce this beer. Yeah, yeah, so I'm third. I'm 31 years old, yeah, 31. And I should be. I should be able to pronounce this this time.

Speaker 2:

So look at where it's like door and I'm like, uh, what, just right, yeah. So, um, here's another good one, because this was a big thing for say, to see especially.

Speaker 1:

Smoky the bear. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

Is it smoky the bear or is it smoky bear?

Speaker 1:

I don't care what anyone says, you can catch me outside. Uh, you can catch his hands. It's smoky the bear.

Speaker 2:

It's smoky the bear. It's always been smoky the bear, it's always been the bear.

Speaker 1:

But according to yeah but according to these motherfuckers it's just smoky bear, right? Weird, weird, that's. That doesn't even sound right like who just says smoky bear, that is no, I don't care what anyone says, it's smoky the bear, that's that's. That's another one I fully believe is um Part of this whole fucking parallel universe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's.

Speaker 1:

It's smoky the bear. It's never been smoky bear. That's one of the that's just stupid. That one, that was just stupid, and now it's. It's almost so stupid to the point where I'm not even gonna talk more about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I get it. I get it, yeah, because it's it's smoky the bear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't care what anyone says, it's smoky the bear. Um so moving on, I don't, I don't give a shit. Uh, the famous picture, the painting Mona Lisa smile. How do you remember the picture? Do you remember her smiling?

Speaker 2:

Mark, yeah, like a little half smirk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so do I. According to some people, like the original painting, she never smiled, it was just a straight face. I've always read this mark I, yeah. So so I don't know if people just kind of like because she's not full on smiling yeah, like you said, it's a smirk, like she's just like a little bit of a smile, so I remember that. So maybe people just think like it wasn't like because because she's not full on smiling. Maybe people just remember like Maybe they're taking it as like her not smiling, just like a stroke thing.

Speaker 2:

That.

Speaker 1:

I think that one, that one I believe, I don't believe to be in a Mandela.

Speaker 2:

I remember her with the little, just a little bit of a smirk, like I said yeah, and then you got all these other things that you know, like media, like movies and cartoons and stuff that that just draws something with what they think. So you get this whole population that sees that and then that's how they really you know, they see the real. Mona Lisa once, but they see this cartoon four or five times, right you?

Speaker 1:

know, so yeah, so, so that that one I I don't believe is part of this Um. If the Mandela effect is real, we'll get into that one at the end of the um. But yeah, that, that one for me is no, I, I, I remember her like just like not full on smiling but like, like you said, a little smirk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I actually only have a couple more, um, and this one is a movie one. Two more yeah, this one's a movie one. Um, you ever watch Lord of the Rings?

Speaker 1:

I, that's. This is another one. I have not, and I haven't even read about this one. So you're about to, you're about to teach me something.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so there's a a part in the movie god, it's so hard to explain. So Gandalf is this big wizard. You know Gandalf. You know the.

Speaker 1:

I vaguely remember, I vaguely know, not remember, but no.

Speaker 2:

He's trying to tell like they get attacked and he's trying to tell everybody to leave. Okay. Okay, I can remember him saying the famous line is run you fool, run. Apparently what it was was. He was telling them fly you because he said these big like bird, like creatures to come, fly them away. Which people have speculated if that's true or not?

Speaker 2:

because here's the thing is, if they were to flown, that could have just really ended everything which people are speculating that that that is true, because you did say that, but they just ran and they didn't fly.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Um.

Speaker 2:

I know you don't really see it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you don't like. Like I said, I've never watched the movies. Um, now that you mention it, though, uh, as I've done research In past years of this, once I once I learned about the Mandela effect, which I learned about this back in like 2013, 2014, so it's I've known about the Mandela effect for a while. I vaguely remember, um, lord of the Rings being part of one that I saw, but not enough for me to actually have an opinion on, so I'm gonna take your word for this, so I remember him saying run you fools, but apparently run, you fly, yeah, but apparently he said fly it's just.

Speaker 2:

whatever reason they didn't okay, I?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I think my wife has watched the Lord of the Rings. I'm not too sure, but I'll have to ask her on this. I'll ask her after this, uh, this episode. But yeah, so I'll take your word on it. That one I'm not too familiar with. Um, I really only have two left. Um, yeah, okay, it, what? What's your one? Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

It's about Patrick.

Speaker 1:

Swayze oh, I fucking love Patrick Swayze. Okay so you'll know this one, because I, I don't, I, but I don't know this one, but I'll. I'll probably know in my mind, like what, I haven't heard it. But Patrick Swayze, he's a god, I'll give a fuck what you say.

Speaker 2:

I died from, died from pancreatic cancer, correct, so okay. So then People remember him recovering from it. Now I don't know 100%. I remember him being sick, but I don't. I don't. I kind of remember him being a Around after that, but I don't know if that was just. Maybe he was just at my read movies.

Speaker 1:

I didn't see All right, listen, I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I believe he had. He had cancer at one point then and beat it and it's probably the same cancer, same, probably the Um, fucking patriotic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah patriotic cancer. Sorry, I've been drinking. I think he did beat it because for a while there he was making some shitty ass movies, you know what I mean? He wasn't making Patrick Swayze movies, but he didn't look himself, yeah. So so I don't know. I think he beat it at one point or was recovered, like um, what do they call it? Um, it's not like they don't call it recovering.

Speaker 2:

Oh, oh.

Speaker 1:

All with can remission, remission. Yeah, I think he was in remission from it. I think he lost. I think he was in remission from it and then it came back and that's when he died apparently they remember him recovering from it.

Speaker 2:

I don't know enough about it. I knew you like Patrick Swayze, but I don't know enough about that to you know. Tell you my 100 opinion on it.

Speaker 1:

So with that that one, I might I might go with the people who believe he he recovered, because I I feel like he got sick with it and then he wasn't like remission or something like that. He made a couple more movies and because he he looks sick in some of his movies, because he he lost a lot of weight from yeah, yeah, which cancer will do that to you? Um, so I I feel like he may have went in remission or he may have just like maybe they it wasn't as bad as I thought before and then he came back, did a couple movies and then passed away. Because he passed away back in like 2013, right, 2013?

Speaker 2:

I couldn't tell you honestly. I remember him being sick at one point, but I remember I feel like he's I don't know if maybe he didn't recover, he just it just last a long time or what, but I can remember him being around a while.

Speaker 1:

Because I always said it's fuck when he passed away. Yeah, so I'm a huge.

Speaker 1:

I'm a huge Sway yeah, I know that's why I brought this one up, even though I love I yeah, I'd never heard of this one. So so kudos to you, man, for bringing one that I didn't hear about. But, yeah, man, for me, for me, I think I. I believe the the people saying like he recovered from it and then coming back, because I do know he made some. He made some not so better movies he at least one that I can remember where he was like super skinny and I think it was a Netflix movie or it was on Netflix. I watched it. I watched it on Netflix. I don't know if it was a Netflix made movie or if it was just on Netflix, but there was a movie he made and he also had a TV show. There was a TV show, but it only lasted like one season.

Speaker 2:

That sounds dead.

Speaker 1:

And he was. He was super skinny but he was like a cop, he was a detective Okay. So so I okay, so maybe I'm, I may believe the people who remember him recovering from it and then it coming back, because because for me I don't, I don't think it just like all of a sudden he had cancer and then died. I think I think he went into remission or or something along those lines. But yeah, I believe that one, yeah, I could see that being part of a Mandela effect, that people remember him, because I remember it that way.

Speaker 2:

I just I remember him being sick and again I wasn't like the biggest fan and I upkeep with it, but it felt like he was sick and then a while later again he could have just fought it and it just been fighting and fight took him, he could have recovered, he could have been remission, I don't know. So I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1:

Going off a little bit because it's my showing out and give a fuck. How? How many Patrick Swayze movies have you watched Because you say you're not a, not a big fan?

Speaker 2:

I will tell you it's so little that I couldn't tell you the titles of them. I would have to see them.

Speaker 1:

I'm so heartbroken. Yeah, have you seen Dirty Dancing?

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

All right, not a big fan of it. Not a big fan of it. Man, fuck you. And you know what maybe watch it? Let me tell you what maybe watch it. How about your mother? Okay, because that Barney does that scene.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

This is how he was this girl got together. It's telling them, you know they're making it.

Speaker 1:

You know they're making a spin off of that right.

Speaker 2:

With Haley.

Speaker 1:

Duff, you're watching Anyway. Anyways, all right. So you need? You need to watch Dirty Dancing again, all right, but the biggest one have you ever watched, roadhouse.

Speaker 2:

Yes, do you remember what was her? Oh God, how do I not remember? I'm drunk. That's what Remember. In high school I dated that girl, mary. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah she. I don't think she was a big fan of me. I think I pissed her off at a basketball game once.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I don't man.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure she did not like me. I don't give a fuck, though.

Speaker 2:

I mean it is what it is like no ill will towards her. I don't. I don't know, but I can remember distinctly thinking about Patrick Swayze. I can remember somebody giving her Roadhouse and I remember that's how I watched it.

Speaker 1:

Dude, that is easily the top five best movies of all time.

Speaker 2:

And I remember I watched it like two or three times because I remember watching it with her. And then remember not long after I watched a family guy episode where he watches Roadhouse and like every time he does like a turn in his car he's like Roadhouse, Roadhouse, Roadhouse and he like wants to like kick people, like that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

That's I'm not a big family guy person. I'm like he watched Dirty Dancing and watch Roadhouse. Yeah, roadhouse is a fucking classic because he's a, he's a bouncer, right, he?

Speaker 1:

yeah, he's like a professional bouncer and like and shit like. Dude, it's a fucking great movie I love, I love it, I love. Patrick Swayze rest in peace, dude, that's what that's. When I cried, right, like I feel bad when, like some celebrities, like pass away, but like when he died, I cried a little when DMX died recently, dude, I fucking cannot tell you, and you knew in middle school and high school wasn't big fan of the guy, not that I thought he was bad.

Speaker 2:

The only celebrity I've ever cried over died was Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 1:

Dude, I would do. You know what's weird is, when Kobe Bryant died, I was up north visiting my dad and I got texts from TMZ. Like I got TMZ alerts and it reported that he had died. I went straight to Facebook and was like rest in peace, kobe Bryant and no one else know. Everyone was like Kobe's not dead. Yeah, like all this shit, I was like the first person who fucking like a people I knew who reported it yeah, he's not dead, kobe's not dead. Then they Google it and they're like oh shit, maybe he is.

Speaker 2:

I posted that and I can remember being on a. How does that work so? A work that this restaurant called pottery house and I can remember sitting there and I saw it and I posted it and I wanted to remember just a Kobe dive what? And he looked at it and he was like almost in tears.

Speaker 1:

I was torn up about it because I fucking hate the Lakers.

Speaker 2:

But I love Kobe. Yeah, I never. I was never even like Kobe for a fan.

Speaker 1:

I had the Kobe poster on my wall.

Speaker 2:

I was never a Kobe fan. What made me cry about it was just he had. So much that he could have.

Speaker 1:

He wanted to and like his kids and just do he has his daughter with him yeah, that his daughter and then the other passengers and their kids, like it was a sad situation. But that's part of another conspiracy, because the Simpsons depicted that you know, predicted that in an in an episode of Kobe Bryant dying in a helicopter.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't they hit like is it in the crash, though in the show don't they hit like a tower or something fall.

Speaker 1:

No, I think they hit. Hit fucking ground.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I thought. They hit something, that building or something, and then fail.

Speaker 1:

It like if you want to, man, you can come back on my show and we can do a Simpsons episode.

Speaker 2:

I would do that. I'd love to, because there's so many, there's so many like that this is predicted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the Trump inch. Let's do that. I would, because I was at the end of the episode. I usually ask people to come back on if they want and do one. But yeah, dude, if you want to lock in a Simpsons episode of conspiracy theories and shit like that, what? They do All right, let's do it All right. All right, let me do. Let me do. That was your last one, right? Yeah, all right, I got one more before my one of deep monkey. Okay, did you watch Looney Tunes?

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, I love Looney how do you spell tunes?

Speaker 1:

How do you remember them spelling Looney Tunes oh all right, this is.

Speaker 2:

I didn't even know about this one. This is a good one.

Speaker 1:

And I couldn't tell you 100%.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to tell you with what I think I remember more. Or the best way to spell it is tunes, right, yes, t O O N E S.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so that's how, that's how I remember it. Okay, that's not how you spell it. How do you spell it? So they spell Looney L O O N E Y. In Iowa I always thought it was T O O N E S, yep, or just an S T O O N S, right, something like that. Apparently, the way they spell tunes is they spell it out like the music T U N E S. Bullshit, bullshit, because. Because how are you, how are you going to take Looney tunes and spell Looney L O O N E S? It then tunes T U N E S and not spell it L O O N E Y, t O O N E S or T O O N S?

Speaker 2:

This is. This is the first one where I can't say one or the other. Well enough, but I can put myself on on the other side of it more Like.

Speaker 1:

I can't say that.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, t O O N, e, s, I do it more, but I can't say that In fact that's how it was Okay, but if I had to pick it, yeah, I remember T O O N.

Speaker 1:

S. It was like straight up, just Looney L O O N E Y then tunes T O O N S and not Looney L O N E Y tunes T U N E S Like the music. So that that one I definitely call bullshit on. I remember tunes as spelled as like cartoons.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know I had to pick, you would be with the.

Speaker 1:

O's According to fucking the world, the world or the man yeah, man yeah let's call the man it's. It's spelled out like the music T U N E, which I don't agree.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, if I had to pick, if I had to pick one, that would be all right.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're done with yours, I'm done with mine, basically besides my one, so we're ready to reveal my my debunk.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Because, because I challenge anyone to go to go, like, look this up, because I did it earlier, I was like I fucking knew it. I knew it. Okay, you know the band Queen. Yes, you know the song we Are the Champions.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Do you know how the song ends? Do you know the last lines of we Are the Champions? Hell, no, tell me it. Okay. So if you go and play the song and listen to the very end, it does say we are the champions, but a lot of people believe that it's like they remember it saying them ending it of the world, like we are the champions of the world.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was a whole, like that was the whole thing. I thought, when you said we are the champions in everyone, it says no.

Speaker 1:

In the song it does. But in the very last part of the song Freddie Mercury says we are the champion. Then it just fades out to the music. It never says of the world. That's interesting. I remember it saying of the world. I know I do. I remember it saying of the world. And so I got to thinking about it. And then it hit me of where I know it from when Did you ever see the movie D2, the Mighty Ducks? Yes, second movie of the Mighty Ducks, frangin'. That's when they bring the Team USA in. That's when they do Team USA. They win it all. They beat Iceland.

Speaker 1:

In the very last part of the movie, when the credits start to roll, they're around a campfire and they're roasting marshmallows and shit. They start to sing we are the champions. They're singing the song as the credits are rolling and they're singing it and they even say we are the champions of the world. And then the picture ends and it just goes to the black screen with the credits rolling. When those credits are rolling, it's still playing we are the champions. Before it fades into the next song it finishes we are the champions.

Speaker 1:

And even in that movie, even at the end of the song, it said you hear Freddie Mercury saying of the world and then it changes into the next song. So to me I debunked it because in the actual song, if you just go to iTunes or like Spotify wherever you listen to music and play that song, it does end with him saying we are the champions, and then it fades out into music. But if you go and skip to the very last of D2 Mighty Ducks, to where after they're singing, and then it just goes to Queen singing it, it does say we are the champions and then he ends it with of the world and then it plays the next song and the credit so I feel like that's where people because people like they're saying we always heard them saying we are the champions of the world, and then the song ending.

Speaker 1:

but it doesn't do that in the actual song, but in the movie it does end with him saying of the world, and then it fades in. So to me, I don't care what you say, I debunked that one. That's where people remember it from. There's that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that one I could. That's another one I couldn't 100% say is true or not.

Speaker 1:

That's probably the one that I will tell you that I can't say either way, Okay because I remember, because I remember hearing this when I'm like I remember them saying of the world, and then I would listen to the song and it never said of the world, it just says we are the champion, and then it stops. And then it dawned on me one day. I'm like it's from the Mighty Ducks and the movie. It ends saying of the world, and then it fades into an end yeah, okay, so to me I debunked it. I don't care what you say, fight me. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. But so those are the Mandela effects. Those are like the most popular ones. I'm pretty sure we named like every one of them.

Speaker 2:

He's almost. I think they might be one or two Right.

Speaker 1:

So, at the end of the episode, I like to ask my guest and I'll tell my opinion too of if you believe in the melt, if you believe in the conspiracy that we talked about. So do you believe the Mandela effect is real?

Speaker 2:

Like, you know what I mean, like, oh, as much as I agreed with you on this, I do not believe it. I think there's just too much out there of things being changed and all this to where we think it's one way, but I truly don't believe it, I think some things I think there could be, whether things change over time and they redo things, or where we watch.

Speaker 2:

For example, we watch a cart or something like the one that Lisa, and then a cartoon does does it, and they just do it a little bit different. And because we watch that more, we think it's supposed to be like that.

Speaker 1:

So, so, basically, you, you believe that, like, maybe our minds remember it one way, but we're, but basically we're wrong, we just remember it differently than it really is. Yeah, all right, all right, no respect, I respect your. For me I'm kind of torn. Yeah, I am, I am. I'm kind of torn because because, just because of the way I remember some things, I'm like I know for a fact it was this way, so why, all of a sudden, is it different? Yeah, so, so I don't know, man, I but like, going back to it, I don't know, like, it's one of those things.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. If the world ended in 2012 and we did jump into a parallel universe, I don't know that I, we could it could have happened.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but with some shit I remember a certain way, yeah, and it's one of those things, though, that these things we talked about also aren't something that we like looked up every day or kept in touch with. You know, right? So like I didn't watch episode five of Star Wars every day and then it just changed, you know that's quite hard, so I would have to say, I think a lot of it either has to do with either movies changing or things changing over times, over time or other things like that.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, I get it Like and for me I'm torn. I'm torn in this one, like it could go either way with me. Like I said, I remember some shit specifically and then I remember some things like, oh, it could have been this or it could have been what I remembered. I could be wrong, but there are some things I'm like I'm like dead set on that. Like I'm like, no, this is how you can ever change my mind. But, zach man, I appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I appreciate it. I had a good time. Yeah, I did too.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad you were able to come on and yeah, dude, I'd love to have you on for another episode.

Speaker 2:

I would love to do it. This was super fun.

Speaker 1:

I like it. I really enjoyed it. We'll do the Simpsons and shit like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm always down, you know, to always hauler at me. I will always be down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course, man. So yeah, from my listeners. You can find me on Facebook. I have a group Drunk Conspiracy Podcast group. I like to hear from you guys. I like the feedback. I like to interact with you guys. So like, if you're not following me on Facebook, go follow the page. Leave me comments. I like to comment on there. I'm gonna like to hear back from you guys. Follow me on Instagram. Instagram slash Drunk Conspiracy Podcast. So yeah, follow me Instagram. Facebook. Leave a message in the group. I like to. I love hearing feedback. I love talking to people who followed the show and shit like that. Zach, tell my people again where they can find you on your, your Twitch and all that.

Speaker 2:

All right, yeah, if you guys, if you guys enjoy anything. I always like I have people come in and I just I love it being a community and everybody talking, but always play games, always Twitch. It's twitchtv back slash XX, zach a ZACH and in city XX. And you'll find me on there. Dude guys, let me know if you ever want something played. You just want to watch and chill out and hang out with other people that enjoy the same thing.

Speaker 1:

Let me know All right, so I'm not too familiar with Twitch. Can you play with other people and record it?

Speaker 2:

So I could, like, do online games and play and things like that. I it's really like I just think, however you play, whether you play a single player game, a multiplayer game, whatever you do, I mean, there's people that just chat on there, but it's just you recording. You can record, you play games, you can do multiplayer. You can have your party like PlayStation or Xbox or Discord or whatever, where the people watching care them or not, or you play single player and it's just you.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, anybody with other people. What? What platform do you use? Pc and PS5. Okay, I don't have a PS5. Well, if you have a PS4,.

Speaker 2:

I do have a PS4. Ps4, ps5 games play together, so we'll play so we okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe we can get together and we can play a game together and put me on your Twitch and shit like that, yeah dude, I definitely won't. Yeah, I'd love to play a game, but I don't know what games you play and shit. I mostly play sports games.

Speaker 2:

NBA Madden. I got NBA Madden, mlb and I'm probably going to buy PGA All right, what, what, what NBA?

Speaker 1:

do you have 2K21. So do I. So maybe I'll message you and we'll set something up to where we can.

Speaker 2:

we can play that, because I have a headset from my PS4 and she'll like that, so you could, you'd be able to record me and shit yeah, you, you're mic and everything I could you. It would even ask you. So say I like started a thing and it even asks you. It's like hey, this guy's recording. He said the audience available your audio.

Speaker 1:

Okay, cool, yeah, let's. Let's set something up I'd love to do, since you came on my show, I'd love to do your, your Twitch and shit with you, and I like to play you on 2K21.

Speaker 2:

All right, dude, I'm also going to get you on games you haven't played that are free, like this, and be like all right. Now you have this kind of game.

Speaker 1:

That's fine, I'm down to play whatever, but I also have what. What, madden, do you have 21 or the newest one? Okay, I have EA. I have the EA members Access. Yeah, yeah, so I would be able to play because I have 21. I've been playing it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, as long as you have the game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you play the game you play them on. You should do.

Speaker 2:

Let's do NBA 2K21 and we'll do two yeah, and I'll get you into Destiny. It's free, but it's it's like a. Pvp player versus player, meaning me, and you can fight each other. I mean, you can work together and fight enemies that are computers.

Speaker 1:

So I'll tell you what. You'll kick my ass in it, but like I'll do, I'll do it. It's fun. It's kind of like Halo, right? So, all right, all right, zach, everybody. Zach, thanks for coming on again. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:

Everybody, everybody go follow Zach on his Twitch or where are you on social media If anyone wants to follow you on some just Facebook.

Speaker 2:

It's really all I got. Just Zach Thomas, I think it's 94. I can't even remember the URL. But really, twitch, I don't mean social media. I haven't really got one for Twitch yet, so All right, all right, man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thanks for coming on, thank you. Thank you for having me again. It was fun. Yeah, everyone go follow Zach. Follow me on Instagram and Facebook. Make sure to leave comments on Facebook. Like I said, I love to fucking interact with everybody, so, like, I appreciate everyone who comments on my stuff too, on Facebook. So that'll be, that's fun. But, yeah, man, thanks for coming on. Oh, dude, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me again. All right, zach, have a good one, you too.

The Mandela Effect
The Mandela Effect and Alternate Realities
Debating the Mandela Effect in Movies
Real Patients Filmed in Haunted Asylum
JFK Assassination and Bernstein Bears Memory
Mandela Effect
Discussion on Mandela Effect and Memories
Remembering Titles
The Mandela Effect and Cultural Misperceptions
Movie Scenes and Patrick Swayze's Health
Debunking the Mandela Effect
Discussion About Memories and Gaming
Promotion and Gratitude in Social Media