Ever shared a drink and a hearty laugh reminiscing about the epic sports moments and the blunders of the past? EZ from the Speak EZ Podcast joins me as we toast to the good old days while sharing our personal tales of sports fandom, from the golden era of boxing to the passionate debates about football greats. We kick off with a cocktail of memories, mixing in a shot of nostalgia as we swap stories about live stream slip-ups, the unforgiving reality of hangovers after 30, and the bittersweet taste of moving across state lines.
This episode isn't just about the past; it's an up-close look at the grit and glamour of sports. Feel the intensity as we tackle the art of boxing versus the raw ferocity of MMA, pay homage to legends like Mike Tyson and Grant Hill, and dissect the complexities of sports fandom. From controversial calls to the legends that shaped our love for the game, we explore the fine line between heroism and infamy that athletes walk, and the allegiances that drive us as fans.
Wrapping up, we're not just armchair quarterbacks; we're students of the game, analyzing the 2006 NBA Finals with a fine-tooth comb and weighing in on the greatest quarterbacks to ever grace the field. We even plan our next big play: an in-person show that promises all the unfiltered fervor and passion you've come to expect. So, pour yourself a drink, settle in, and get ready for an episode packed with humor, heart, and a deep dive into the sports we live and breathe. With EZ by my side, we're delivering a knockout punch of entertainment and insight you won't want to miss.
Ever shared a drink and a hearty laugh reminiscing about the epic sports moments and the blunders of the past? EZ from the Speak EZ Podcast joins me as we toast to the good old days while sharing our personal tales of sports fandom, from the golden era of boxing to the passionate debates about football greats. We kick off with a cocktail of memories, mixing in a shot of nostalgia as we swap stories about live stream slip-ups, the unforgiving reality of hangovers after 30, and the bittersweet taste of moving across state lines.
This episode isn't just about the past; it's an up-close look at the grit and glamour of sports. Feel the intensity as we tackle the art of boxing versus the raw ferocity of MMA, pay homage to legends like Mike Tyson and Grant Hill, and dissect the complexities of sports fandom. From controversial calls to the legends that shaped our love for the game, we explore the fine line between heroism and infamy that athletes walk, and the allegiances that drive us as fans.
Wrapping up, we're not just armchair quarterbacks; we're students of the game, analyzing the 2006 NBA Finals with a fine-tooth comb and weighing in on the greatest quarterbacks to ever grace the field. We even plan our next big play: an in-person show that promises all the unfiltered fervor and passion you've come to expect. So, pour yourself a drink, settle in, and get ready for an episode packed with humor, heart, and a deep dive into the sports we live and breathe. With EZ by my side, we're delivering a knockout punch of entertainment and insight you won't want to miss.
Welcome to Drunk Conspiracies. Welcome to Drunk Conspiracies. All right, welcome to another episode of Drunk Conspiracies. I got EZ from Speak EZ Podcast.
Speaker 2:What up man?
Speaker 1:If you don't know who he is, go follow him. Talk sports, which everyone likes sports right. Hell yeah, man how you doing, of course, always trying to find new guests. You know, keeps me busy, keeps more episodes coming, fuck, yeah, yeah, are we allowed to swear?
Speaker 2:on this one, more episodes coming, fuck yeah are we allowed to swear on this one oh, fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you especially the first episode I did with my wife like she swore more than I did, so like anything goes.
Speaker 2:I know why it was so fucked up for me. I was watching the live stream. It was delayed, Fucking all. Right. Now I'm back on Zoom. This is way better, Okay.
Speaker 1:I thought it was weird too, like I was talking and then like it like lagged a little bit.
Speaker 2:So I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're good.
Speaker 2:Like what you drunk already bro.
Speaker 1:All right, so first, what are we drinking today?
Speaker 2:Today I poured up some Crown Royal.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I got it in my speakeasy cup. I don't know if you guys can see that you can't. It's just ice, that's all right, it's all good, good what are you drinking?
Speaker 1:on. I started with a Natty Daddy.
Speaker 2:You're a nasty motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Hey man, I'm from. I'm originally from the south, I'm from tennessee okay so I mean down there we drink usually. I started out with like natty light and then this is. This is basically. This is the same thing, but it's not like it's basically natty light on steroids that's like your own shit's eight percent what do you call it?
Speaker 2:your bar mitzvah of beers? You go from natty light to the natty daddy yeah, yeah, yeah so I'm starting.
Speaker 1:Starting with this, but after that's done. I've never bought this whiskey before, but it just like caught my eye for some reason. Uh, dr mcgillicuddy's yo, that sounds fucking lit yeah, it's like some is that a plastic bottle no, it's a glass bottle from like 1868 oh what or 83 that's like how long they've been around yeah, 1808. Maybe writing's really small 1800s, but yeah, like it's a. It's a blackberry whiskey blackberry whiskey is it flavored then yeah it actually tastes pretty good, can I see you one more time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dr mc McGillicuddy's. Yeah, blackberry whiskey, that does sound pretty good. So once we try the the Crown Royal Peach.
Speaker 1:But I oh, I haven't had the peach yet I've had the apple. Yeah, it's Apple's good, the vanilla's good.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a vanilla. I wonder if, like, you mixed them all If it's good, or if it's a vanilla. I wonder if you mixed them all if it's good or if it's just fucking disgusting.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had a Four Horsemen?
Speaker 2:No, but I hear about them a lot. That's like the shots, it's all the whiskeys or some shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's Jack Jim Beam, Jose Cuevo, and fuck, what's the other one? Have you had it? I have what was that experience have you?
Speaker 2:had it, I have. What was that experience? Do you remember? I blacked out just one shot for real no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I had like eight shots. All right, we uh, me and my buddies went to myrtle beach, like back in like 2011 and uh, our last night there. We just we get everything to make them and shit, like I ended up taking like eight shots that night of it, like we all did, I blacked out.
Speaker 2:I don't remember much it was fucking nuts those little stories you don't want to tell right stuff like that, like right, but no, it was fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:but like mean, it tasted all right from what I remember, but I mean I don't know. It's an experiment you should do with all the crowns.
Speaker 2:You know what yeah? You know, I'm making my own shot up.
Speaker 1:Right, all right.
Speaker 2:So we're going to.
Speaker 1:You're taking a shot right out of the bottle.
Speaker 2:I will. I poured a cup, but I'm going to take a shot because that was the so.
Speaker 1:I'm actually taking a shot of something different.
Speaker 2:Not the Blackberry Whiskey.
Speaker 1:No, not the Blackberry. I'm drinking that what?
Speaker 2:are you taking?
Speaker 1:a shot of.
Speaker 2:Let's see what you got Some proper. Proper 12. I'm Irish. I'm Irish.
Speaker 1:Are you Nice, but it's super smooth.
Speaker 2:Super smooth. It is smooth, man. The first night I drank it, I didn't have a headache. I didn't have a hangover the next day, the second time I did, I definitely had a hangover.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's crazy. I used to not get hangovers. I used to be able to drink as much as I wanted. I'd get up the next day, I'd be fine. I turned 30 back in April. I turned 30 in April. Ever since I hit 30, I fucking wake up like oh shit, I don't want to get out of bed. It sucks, All right man.
Speaker 2:I don't know what we're talking about. Salute.
Speaker 1:So smooth. I also have my Texas shot glass. Nice, my wife's from Texas. We just went down in back in November. How did you guys know Michigan? My family's from Michigan originally, so my mom used to vacation down in Tennessee as a kid. My mom used to vacation down in Tennessee as a kid After they had my sister before I was born. They just got a wild hair up their ass. It was like let's move down to Tennessee. They did that's when I was born.
Speaker 2:My wife's mom is from the San Antonio area of Texas. How long were you in Tennessee before you moved back up to Michigan?
Speaker 1:I was born down there. I moved up here when I was like one or something. I came back before I was one, but no, actually I lived most of my life in Tennessee, Okay you moved back.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, then my parents divorced, like we went back to Tennessee. Uh, my parents divorced, like we went back to tennessee. Then my parents divorced when I was like two, but we stayed in tennessee and then I lived in tennessee up until like right after high school. Well, I moved up here in high school for like half a year, like a year and a half, you know. I went to kettering for a year and a half in waterford and then, uh, I moved back to tennessee. But I spent most of my life in tennessee. And then I moved after high school. I moved back and forth a couple times and then finally landed back up here permanently and then, uh, my wife's dad's from pontiac that's crazy yeah, he was in the Air Force.
Speaker 2:That's kind of a wild coincidence. Yeah, because he was in the.
Speaker 1:Air Force. He got stationed in San Antonio and that's where he met my wife's mom. They had sex Basically and produced my wife, who was born. I tell everyone my wife's Filipino because she was born in the Philippines, my wife's filipino because she was born in the philippines that's dope because he was stationed over at the time. She's not really philippine. She's born on american soil, like yeah he's mexican, so but I tell people she's like yeah, I married a filipino her birth certificates on rice paper it really is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's right, it's like on rice paper. It really is. Yeah, it's right, it's like she showed me it like it's like one second from falling apart, like just disintegrating it's, it's nuts, but yeah, that's so. That's how we ended up in michigan, but I was born are you from here?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm from michigan, okay, yeah, no life. Yeah, boring as fuck, sorry guys it is.
Speaker 1:We don't plan on staying here. We, yeah, I'm not. Where do you want to go? Somewhere warm oh, me too yeah I hate this. I hate the cold, I hate the snow, bro, my son loves the snow, though yeah, that's what some of my girls was like.
Speaker 2:It'd be different if I was still like making like really good money, you know, like working where I was, you know. But it's not it's like bro, I can literally be broke anywhere in the fucking world. Not broke, right? I'm saying like I could like make this amount of money anywhere else in the world. Why wouldn't I? I'm saying it's a fucking like, right?
Speaker 1:kind of like a more happy environment yeah, man, this fucking doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:I love it. I'll miss my family and shit like that. But like I feel like after I'm so thankful that I got to travel, like once I started going, like traveling, because like you don't really realize that unless you do go, you know right, it's like fucking, bro, this place is like so much better.
Speaker 1:Or just fucking, just fuck the winter, bro, straight off, like right, yeah I feel that, too, the only places I've lived are Tennessee and Michigan, but my wife has moved around. She's like she lived in Texas, obviously, and Michigan, but then she moved to Arizona for a bit and then she even went up to Seattle for a bit and like that. So, like we're we're weighing our options of places to go, like we're trying to see, we're visiting a few places to see where we want to settle down, but it's definitely not going to be Michigan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, I talk money into moving. She doesn't want to move. No, nope, we're sorry. Though You'll convince her. Yeah, yeah, we will. Let's do another shot to that, all right?
Speaker 1:I drank, yeah, drink the last of my proper, so I got to start drinking the doctor.
Speaker 2:Look there you go cutty, killer cutties. Oh yeah, I see you were. Uh, here's the shop, okay, all right, you see part Irish, right? Yes, we gotta figure out what they say in ireland for cheers. What do they say? I don't know, I don't think it's salute. They say uh what, conor mcgregor, always yell to ali ali abdul, you fucking that right, fucking love mcgregor, you watched the.
Speaker 1:You watched the fights tonight. Right, did you watch that shit?
Speaker 2:I did oh my god, but that last fight, bro dude, it's so fucking we. We rolled over. Thankfully he moved again, but I was like fucking like bro, is he fucking like dead? Like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:I thought so, for for a split second I thought he's lewis straight up, fucking murdered him.
Speaker 2:It's just so crazy, like, fucking, fucking, like and like. I trained, you know, but I just started doing MMA shit.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm like, uh, they do like open mats on. Do you guys smoke weed on the drunk conspiracy podcast? Is that a thing? Are you allowed to do that?
Speaker 1:Do what you do Do what I do. I used to smoke. Uh, when I was younger I smoked a lot more, but I don't really smoke anymore. It's legal here now. Who gives?
Speaker 2:a fuck this tobacco cigarette.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just it's tobacco folks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what the fuck am I talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah, so, uh, it's fucking. I go to the open mats, mm-hmm, man, and like certain people that don't train, are like, are just as new as you, you know, okay, like I could do, I could do some sweet shit, you know. But then if you go against, like a guy who's pro, or like even like uh, we call it amateur, bro, just fucking levels, and it's just so much crazier too with like athletes at that too. It's like I met uh, I'm from detroit, anybody's listening who's not from michigan? We had a nfl defensive end named ziggy anza. I met him in person in life. Oh really, I was like bro. This guy could fucking smash my head with his bare hands if he wanted to. He was such a fucking ginormous person right, it's crazy to be like as a man, like mammoth, like that, like another person like bro, this guy could fucking kill me if he wanted to right and uh, it was wild.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah, I don't uh. I've never gotten uh into mma. I don't have a wrestle game like I don't know, karate, jujitsu, I don't wrestle, none of that. I boxed for a while so I got a stand-up game.
Speaker 2:I just started boxing.
Speaker 1:Okay, I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like kickboxing better, but I get like oh, fucking man, I should introduce my fucking podcast. I guess you should.
Speaker 1:I threw you in there from like at the beginning.
Speaker 2:You did my bad. Well, I interviewed and talked to like just athletes guys from boxing, mma, ufc, nfl, nba, all that. I try to get anybody who's in sports and interesting. I'd love to have them on. If you're listening right now, bro, hit me up. I'm EZ from the Speak Easy podcast. Find us on Instagram.
Speaker 2:But I had a boxer, tywon Jones. He actually used to play linebacker for Michigan State and he's he explained boxing as like the sweet science and like I didn't understand it until I like I mean I understood it as like that's what people called it. You know what I'm saying. But once you start boxing, you fucking understand it because you set shit up. You know you do. Yeah, you throw enough shit to where like you know, like okay, this is how he's like dodging my fucking jab. It's like I'm gonna throw up his hook, I'm gonna fake the jab and, like you know, make sure my hook is there to land when he dodges it. You know it's fucking. It's sweet once you get that timing down. And then the only reason I like kickboxing is because, like I'm not as good at boxing and kickboxing can get a little bit more wild, but throwing like knees and kicks and shit like that.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, like, uh, like I I love watching, like the UFC, like I love it. But for me personally, I prefer boxing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's just because I used to do it, but um, I don't know, man, for for me personally, nothing against MMA fighters, cause those, those motherfuckers, are crazy. I'd hate to meet a fucking MMA fighter in a dark alley. Don't get me wrong, but for me boxing is just like. Because you get knocked down in boxing, you let them get back up.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean. So how long have you been watching?
Speaker 2:MMA probably like 11 years.
Speaker 1:No, I've been years now.
Speaker 2:I've been watching for a minute, yeah yeah but, I think I always wonder that two people close to my age how? Old are you I'm not be 27 bro coming up on?
Speaker 1:oh shit, I'm older than you yeah, my birthday is.
Speaker 2:Uh. Yeah, bro, I just got no hair. I'm bald, I started balding.
Speaker 1:I got a receding hairline. Man, you're good, um. Surprised I'm not bald yet who cares?
Speaker 2:fuck it it is right, own it, own it exactly no, but I thought my generation that, uh, mma is more popular. So it's actually interesting to hear that, because it's like I don't know any fucking boxers. Really, I know the big name guys. I'm saying, for instance, ryan Garcia. He has a fight coming up. I have no clue who the guy he's fighting is. I have absolutely no fucking clue. Yeah, mma, because I got so deep into it. I know all those fuckers. Now, right, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:You going to watch the Tyson fight?
Speaker 2:Fuck, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, we got our press pass to UFC. I'm trying to get our press pass to that, but it's weird, it's different. It's through that app. Triller, that's who's hosting the fight. Oh really, yeah, tiller, or Triller, that's who's hosting the fight. Oh really, have you heard of DAZN? Dazn has a lot of boxing on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:They're kind of stealing that idea. Triller's supposed to be like I apologize guys, I'm smoking a tobacco cigarette. Triller's supposed to be like American TikTok it's like a random that they just bought like a Mike Tyson fight to have.
Speaker 1:Right, that is weird.
Speaker 2:You know what's even fucking sweeter on that is the fucking. I'm not more excited. Actually I can't say that I lied, but I'm super. Also, I'm also really, really excited to watch Nate Robertson versus Jake Paul.
Speaker 1:Jake Paul, I am too, when I found out that because I follow Nate Robertson, yeah, I don't like that, jake Paul dude. I think, he's a douche, yeah, and I didn't really follow the first fight he had with that KSI dude but I kind of I watched the second one just to see it. But yeah, that.
Speaker 2:Jake.
Speaker 1:Paul dude, he's just a douche. So if he ever listens, to this.
Speaker 2:No, I agree, I think he like, he realizes that and he fucking like lives up to it you know what I'm saying? Like he sells it.
Speaker 1:But I don't know if Jake Paul knows who the fuck Nate Robertson is, Because, um, fucking who Nate Robertson is? Because fucking who.
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to ask you, because I always wondered that, because I know in MMA, being athletic or just the shit that I try, being athletic could work to my advantage. It would offset a little bit of the skill, experience or indifference. Is it like that in?
Speaker 1:boxing. It definitely helps if you're athletic.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I was really curious to see because I know Jake Paul obviously has been boxing for a while because he had those two fights before him. I'm curious to see if Nate Robinson's athleticism will like jump that gap. So it's like somewhat of a level playing field, you know, does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I get what you're saying completely, but my opinion, nate Robertson's hood yeah, I'm trying to think of the fucking fight that he had in the NBA Do you know what I'm talking about. I forgot who it was against.
Speaker 2:I think it was a Kn at the time. I think, yeah, he used to be New York, nick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was playing with the Knicks at the time and there was a fucking brawl and I forgot who it was. But like the dude's obviously bigger than Nate, because Nate's a small dude- yeah. He's built, but he's a small dude. But he fucking like manhandled this dude.
Speaker 2:I, but he fucking like manhandled this dude, I'm like there's no way he's gonna get in the ring.
Speaker 1:Jake paul's gonna get in the ring with nate robinson. Bro, do you follow uh, nate rob, on instagram? I do, son he's jacked he is.
Speaker 2:I've been watching his videos, his channel videos.
Speaker 1:No, oh, his training video. I'm like there's no way I'm like how the fuck does jake paul think he's gonna step in the ring with nate? Yeah, one of the us, so that I was talking like one. How the fuck does.
Speaker 2:Jake Paul think he's going to step in the ring with Nate yeah, one of the UFC fighters. So I was talking to like one of the MMA guys so I was like I'm going to do like a whole video of like everyone's predictions and I was asking him. And he thinks Jake Paul's going to win. But he was saying like I said like the skill thing, but I didn't ask him about the athleticism stuff, because like a podcast with recording, you know.
Speaker 1:But I think Nate's more athletic than Jake Paul. No he is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know I was asking like is Jake Paul's skill, though, going to like overset his athleticism?
Speaker 1:I don't think he has skill, though I watch the box.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think there's two of them. There's Jake Paul and there's Logan Paul. Logan Paul he's his younger brother.
Speaker 1:right, logan's the older one, jake is logan older yeah, oh, I thought it was vice versa okay yeah, no, I think logan's older.
Speaker 2:And then, uh, you know what's dope, those guys could actually do mma if they wanted to. I would. I like this, they got like the mma podcast, like that, and I guess logan paul was like ranked in the state of ohio, uh, for he was younger.
Speaker 1:Right? No, because when they did that fight, when Jake Paul and KSI fought for the second time, that was Logan Paul and KSI who fought. Was it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I could have sworn it no. I could have sworn it was Jake Paul and KSI Logan Paul was on the card, but he fought someone else and won.
Speaker 2:So the guy that you're thinking about, who fought somebody else, that's the guy that's fighting Nate Robinson. That's Jake Paul. It's Jake Paul. Yep Right, jake Paul fought KSI's younger brother, and then I don't think he fought on the second card. Maybe he did, but he knocked him out. He knocked out KSI's younger brother.
Speaker 1:Younger brother right and Jake Paul and KSI fought, though, right?
Speaker 2:No, they didn't. Logan Paul and KSI fought twice. They drew the first time and then KSI won the second.
Speaker 1:I thought the second fight was all on one card.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, the brother who fought on that card, that's the one who's fighting Nate Robinson, that's Jake Paul.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, yeah, I don't like Jake Paul.
Speaker 2:And then the guy who plays fucking point guard for the Oklahoma Thunder, that's Chris Paul. That's weird, let's see.
Speaker 1:It'd be weird if they were related.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be super weird. I doubt it though.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to Nate knocking out Jake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, and.
Speaker 1:Tyson Go ahead, have you seen?
Speaker 2:Tyson. So we're excited about the fucking other fight. I totally forgot Mike Tyson and Roy Jones. Roy Jones yeah man Yo.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Jones has the edge, because the last time Jones fought was back in 2018.
Speaker 2:I said the same shit, but you know how people are, like people who knock out people. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Have you, but Tyson's a fucking animal.
Speaker 2:He is a fucking animal. But, like you said, Roy Jones is, it's like not only is he more recent in fighting and like probably in better shape to do it.
Speaker 1:No, he's not in better shape. They did a side-by-side by side with, like their body shapes right now the shape like the shape.
Speaker 2:Fuck that. He's boxing shape, though. You know I'm saying like he, it's tyson's jack though tyson is jack tyson looks sick as fuck, bro.
Speaker 1:Tyson looks like his pride like.
Speaker 2:So it's like when you were younger you were too young for mike tyson, too right, you missed that whole wave Because I was too young.
Speaker 1:Early, early Tyson, I remember.
Speaker 2:Like, how old were you when he was like the champ, Young as fuck. Right, I was pretty young. Like, were you in your teens or no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:So you missed it, but the last Tyson fight I remember watching. I believe I was like 12 or 13. Okay, right after he got his eye tattooed.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he knocked out that one guy. That shit looks big.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't get. Tyson got knocked out.
Speaker 2:Oh what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like right after he got that tattoo done and he had a fucking fight and like the dude just fucking hit him in the eye, he went down. You know what's crazy? Yeah, tattooed on and he had a fucking fight and like the dude just fucking hit him in the eye, he went down you know what's crazy yeah I admire about tyson is like fucking people forget even floyd.
Speaker 2:I don't admire this about floyd. Oh, fuck, floyd mayweather, they're both pieces. Like mike tyson fucking like went to prison, like he did. Yeah, what do you do, do you remember? I don't know rape, sexual assault I knew it was rape, but I just didn't know. I don't want to say it it's.
Speaker 1:It's up in the air on what really happened so that that could be a whole nother conspiracy, bro, because it could, because, like according to her, like it was sexual assault rape. According to him it was. It was consensual because it would. It was one of his uh trainer because he went up to caskills in new york, yeah, to train and it was one of his trainers, like nieces or something or younger younger sister or niece bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fucking um teddy alice bro yeah and uh they actually got into it like yeah dude he.
Speaker 1:He tried to kill Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2:He did, bro. He was on live TV, he was on ESPN. I told him I'd grab my fucking gun and I'd kill him, or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, can you imagine the balls you have to have on yourself? Yeah, some gangster Right. Mike Tyson yeah, especially a young Mike Tyson because he was crazy and wild at that age.
Speaker 2:He's crazy, mike Tyson, because he was crazy and wild at that age. He's crazy, mike Tyson, like all it takes is one fucking punch and you're out.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck. If I had a gun to Mike Tyson's head, I would not threaten him. I would hand him the gun.
Speaker 2:That's so crazy, man, it's crazy yeah.
Speaker 1:It's really up in the air on what really happened. But yeah, he went to prison for that.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That is crazy.
Speaker 1:Regardless, I'm a fucking huge Tyson fan.
Speaker 2:He's one of my favorite boxers. Yeah, man, he fucking. I fuck with him too also because like I'm not, I'm pretty short and like he was a shorter heavyweight and he was fucking. He didn't give a fuck. He was crazy too. I was crazy as he went. I wonder if he stayed on track, how much better he could have been.
Speaker 1:Right, all the drugs and the money Back then. All that money he fucking got for fighting was a lot of money at the time. So like you get that kind of I mean you have that mentality that he had at that age with all that money it's man you're.
Speaker 2:you're fucking doomed at that point I I was listening to uh joe rogan and he had rob low on recently and rob oh, I haven't heard that one yet, but I just came out. I always be, honest with you. But he said, uh, when you get famous or rich like that, at whatever age, your mind state kind of like, stays that like you kind of freak your mind at the time.
Speaker 2:He was on the cover of fucking espn box or magazine when he was like 18, like tyson was so like right, you get that money and like you're that young, like bro, think about when you're 18, think how dumb shit you're doing and somebody gives you fucking millions of dollars.
Speaker 2:Dude times that dumb shit by 12, bro exactly and then and then you're fucking already rich, like nobody can tell you shit. Like who's gonna tell you no, not to do that. You're broke as mom. You're like I'm more successful than you know. I'm saying like right.
Speaker 1:yeah, because, like, like tyson, like, uh, he went to the junior olympics, knocked the dude out in like the first, like a couple seconds into the first round and he had the I'm not sure if he still has it, he might still have the fastest knockout record in the junior olympics. And then, like, after that, his, like his popularity just like fucking skyrocketed. And then, like, like you said, at 18, man fucking winning championships and fucking getting that money, it changes you. Yeah, like I I always told myself, like if I ever had that kind of money, I mean I'd stay humble, I'd still be me. No, you wouldn't. No, dude, I'd go nuts, especially like now I'm married with a kid, like it'd be different, but like at 18.
Speaker 2:That's true as fuck Dude. A kid changes everything.
Speaker 1:Like you. You look at celebrities now and be like what a douche. Like, like, what a douchebag. Like that's what people would have thought about me if I had that kind of money at 18 yeah, that's like when, uh, when people were talking shit about justin bieber, I'm like bro that's what I was gonna say yeah, yeah, bro, even I talk shit about. I'm like what a fucking douche yeah but like you know, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why I I don't, I don't really see myself as a hater when it comes to that type of shit, because, like I like, always try to put myself in their shoes.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying like I start off as a hater and then I'm like. You know what, like?
Speaker 2:yeah, so yeah, check, I'm from detroit, right and fucking like right, lebron james, I used to fucking hate.
Speaker 1:LeBron Fuck LeBron. I still hate LeBron I hate LeBron, bro.
Speaker 2:I still hate LeBron. I just had to fucking be like bro. He's them, he's that nigga bro. He's that guy man For real, my bad.
Speaker 1:I still hate LeBron.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but do you respect him I?
Speaker 1:respect his game.
Speaker 2:You respect his game. Who's your GOAT?
Speaker 1:My GOAT. Yeah, if we're talking like overall NBA GOAT, obviously it's Jordan. Jordan, my opinion, yeah, but like, if yeah, like me personally, my goat, like my favorite basketball player of all time okay grant hill no fuck no, steve nash was dope. I like steve nash but, no grant hill.
Speaker 2:Great bro, I'm off grant hill.
Speaker 1:I saw that I did. I wanted to tell I asked you about that. Uh, I actually just found uh. Recently I found my Grant Hill jersey from when I was a kid. And like I gave it to my son and my son can wear it.
Speaker 2:So, like I was able to, pass it down to him. That is so dope, yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:Grant Hill was my favorite player. He's the reason I picked up basketball when I was young. Like I remember living up here when I was younger, my mom like I remember living up here when I was younger my mom took me to a pistons game and I got to see, uh, grant hill and joe dumars fucking play. You know it's it's weird because when you're young, at that age, you don't remember much, but for some reason I I remember going to the fucking palace of auburn hills and watching joe dumars and Gray Hill play.
Speaker 2:That's like one of the reasons I love sports is they bring people together in that kind of weird moment it does. You could have a stadium full of and we're not going to get political but we have a stadium full of Trump people and fucking Biden people and if they root for the same team, bro, they're all watching the Lions win they're high-fiving and fucking, screaming and fucking like bro, yeah, I gotta say that is one good thing about sports yeah, man, it's, and it's just everyone's happy, bro, it's like you, for it's fucking crazy, man, right, I go fucking hard at lions games bro I've never been to a lions game.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, we gotta go to a lions game let's do it.
Speaker 1:And I'm gonna go to a Lions game let's do it. We're going to go to a Lions game For real. Let's do it.
Speaker 2:We're going to do that shit too, whatever they let us do Exactly, okay, I want to bro.
Speaker 1:Dude, I've never been to a Lions game I go to. I've been to a Pistons game. I've been to Wings games.
Speaker 2:Never been to a Lions game, but I want to at Red Wings games, where I'm banging on the glass like a drunk ass.
Speaker 1:I've never been that close. I was like I was 10 rows up at one game. So not bad. At Little Caesars at the new arena. I got to go to the Joe twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I've been to one game at the Little Caesars you know what's crazy.
Speaker 2:I wish I loved hockey more because we had the Red Wings, and I probably would have fucking loved that, because I look back and see how much I love the Pistons for the one championship they won. The Red Wings were fucking like the patriots of hockey for a minute, bro Right, it's just crazy to think about.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like I said, I grew up in Tennessee, man, we didn't have hockey for a long time. So the only time I ever really watched hockey or knew anything of hockey is in the summers, when I would come up and visit family Like I'd go out on the street and play like street hockey with my cousins and my uncle. But, like in Tennessee, man, people didn't watch hockey, not until they got the Predators. And now even, just like a couple years ago, it didn't get popular until Nashville made it to it to like the fucking cup.
Speaker 2:How long the predator's been there, oh fuck, not a long time, or not it's not been a long time man it hasn't been.
Speaker 1:It hasn't been extremely long. So I mean like, yeah, it's, it's still getting popular in nashville. I mean it's, it's up now it's like like the like.
Speaker 2:What do they rank as far as terms of money with the other leagues? Do you know?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure I know MLB like baseball. Mlb is like number one, yeah, or they used to be. I don't know if they still are.
Speaker 2:You know what I fucking love about doing these podcasts. I mean, I don't even have a hockey guy on too, because I really don't know shit about hockey. It would be dope to learn from you know, obviously a fucking NHL player. What's dope to learn from you too? Excuse me, I had a burp so I muted myself. When I drink.
Speaker 1:I get the hiccups and shit.
Speaker 2:I shit my pants. No, I'm just kidding, Fucking. I had a baseball player on. He plays for the minor leagues of Indians and I didn't know shit about baseball and he told me some shit that blew my mind. So you know how you talk about. Baseball makes the most money. I guess a lot of minor league guys have part time jobs and shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they do. They don't make much play minor league ball.
Speaker 2:That's nuts to me, but if you make it, I guess you make it.
Speaker 1:I know two people who got drafted in baseball into the minors. One still played minor league ball, then the other one retired years back. But yeah, I mean, up until you actually get called up you don't make much money, man. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the nhl, like they're one of the higher, they're higher paid ones I believe nhl yeah, they may not be anymore. It's hard to believe now because of all these nba contracts that are being signed and then, like Patrick Mahomes, his contract he just fucking signed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:It's crazy.
Speaker 2:I think he's the only NFL player that's making more just as much as an NBA player, though, which is crazy to think about.
Speaker 1:Probably yeah.
Speaker 2:And the thing, too, about fucking NFL you're going to get hurt. It's 100% guaranteed You're going to get. You may not get injury like where it threatened your career, but you're going to get injured.
Speaker 1:Somehow you'll get hurt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy how underpaid and I don't care. Actually they're not underpaid, I won't say that. But did you know their contracts aren't guaranteed, unless it's like negotiated that way, really, yeah, but baseball guaranteed, uh, guaranteed. So it's like those sports you don't get as hurt as frequent as you do in football, but the football you're taking more hits in football yeah, we just hop sports so hard because my um high off regular tobacco is my bad. This is chill, I like. I like drinking during the podcast. It loosens things up a little bit.
Speaker 1:Dude, I love, I love fucking sports, so like Anytime.
Speaker 2:Fuck, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:I can come on yours.
Speaker 2:I'll do it, even with an athlete Check this out, and I hope my guy's watching. You know, hold on, before I get into this, I'm about to send him this link. But fucking you know how I told you I was like I was on that Detroit show, the Detroit Sports Alliance right fucking, there's this guy.
Speaker 2:He's cool as fuck. His YouTube is Luke G's on and off field review, I think is what his is called. And we were up last night, or two nights ago, talking about some shit, after I was on the show already, and he told me that because you're a Lions fan, right, yeah. So fucking do you know about some shit? After I was on the show already and he told me that because you're a Lions fan, right. Yeah, so fucking, do you know? You remember Jabba the Best? He told me Jabba the Best and Kevin Jones you're old enough to remember Kevin Jones were better than Reggie Bush, you agree? Isn't that kind of crazy to say I thought he was crazy? I'm like bro, you're crazy, pretty crazy, right. Like say I thought he's crazy. I'm like bro, you're crazy, pretty crazy, right.
Speaker 1:Like bro, you're just trying to like make a fucking hot topic you're tripping right now when, when reggie came for detroit, it wasn't the best reggie yeah in my opinion, it wasn't the best reggie it wasn't. Oh no, for sure, that's yeah, you can't yeah overall, there's no way they were better than reggie book no way.
Speaker 2:And then no way numbers I'm saving. I'm not gonna talk too much on it because, uh, because him and I want to do like a little podcast thing, I just text him, maybe he hits me up and he joins. That'd be pretty cool if you do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, let's do it talk some sports for sure.
Speaker 2:But uh, yeah, bro, I was tripping, I'm like bro there's no way yeah, and, and anybody who's listening who's not a Lions fan. I apologize, you probably don't give a fuck to hear about that. I'm super sorry, but like yeah, a lot of shit. It's a big statement. It's this much of a statement that you know who Reggie Bush is and you don't know who the other guy is, so you should be able to go to some bag Everyone knows who Reggie Bush is Bro.
Speaker 2:He fucking banged Kim Kardashian Like, yeah, bro, exactly Bro. I remember the fucking day that I felt cool I'm half black, by the way but I had one of my best friends His name is Mike and we were walking back from another buddy's house that lived down the street from him and I was like, if you could be anyone in the world, who would you be? And he told me, fucking reggie bush. And mike is white. I should have premised the story with that, but, like me, I grew up like black.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying like, like being black is shitty sometimes, bro, like it sucks whatever I'm saying like you could look past it some places.
Speaker 2:But but my boy, mike, is white and he said he wanted to be reggie bush and reggie bush is black. I was like that's so fucking dope.
Speaker 1:That's how dope Reggie Bush is, bro, like even white that's kind of dope I get, I get your point of view on it yeah. I can see it yeah but yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like that's fucking dope, like Reggie Bush is like so fucking dope, even white people want to be.
Speaker 1:I'm like right, but yeah, for for a minute.
Speaker 2:Reggie was the man, reggie was the back dude, he got me into football bro.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it started when I got the Madden that had Donovan McNabb on it, so 06.
Speaker 1:06, I think yeah, 05 or 06.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, I'm so fucking I love talking sports bro, I'm so excited right now.
Speaker 1:Dude, I love sports. Yeah, bro, this I'm so excited right now, dude, I love sports. Yeah, yeah, dude, like every sport, every sport man, yeah, man, that's what I'm saying like all through high school I played multiple sports like I fucking I love talking sports. Basketball is my favorite fuck. Yeah, bro, love the nba, yeah, the nba, uh like, followed by like football and like boxing and shit like that yeah, and then baseball too. I mean, obviously I'm rocking a boston hair yeah, I like, like baseball too.
Speaker 2:I'm actually. I'm not mad, though. See, I said I could empathize with everybody. I want to say I hate the red sox because they have dave dembrowski and we had him and he was such a g for us right I'm gold, like retards, like what you know I'm I'm definitely a Tigers fan because I'm not being from partially. Being from Michigan, I'm playing on Joga.
Speaker 1:But growing up I played baseball. When I was younger, I played baseball all my life, but I was a shortstop, so my favorite player was Nomar Garcia-Para.
Speaker 2:He played for Detroit or Boston.
Speaker 1:Boston. He played from Boston from like 96 to like 2004 wait.
Speaker 2:So how old are you again? I'm 30. Oh, you're not that much older than me. No, like three years yeah so.
Speaker 1:But like when I was younger, like 10 and 11 playing ball, like you start to actually like watch baseball. I'm like, as I'm watching, I'm like I'm a shortstop so I like I watch for other shortstops and like I was like Nomar's the man. So like at a young age I became a Boston fan, like before they won the championship in 0-4. Like it sucks, because, like I'm a Tigers fan but I'm also a Boston fan and I'm a Cubs fan. And when I tell people that I'm a Cubs and a Boston fan, they're like oh, just because they won championships recently Hold on.
Speaker 2:So why are you a Cubs fan, though? How did that happen?
Speaker 1:Sammy number one, sammy Sosa. Sammy Sosa was the man, he was the guy. I fucking love Sammy, but also the Chicago Cubs minor league team are the Tennessee Smokies.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's dope. Okay, that makes perfect sense. You're allowed to be a Cubs fan all day.
Speaker 1:The Tennessee Smokies play baseball where I'm from. The Tennessee Smokies arena is in Sevier County, tennessee, where I'm from, so I grew up going to Smokies games.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So I had a legit reason to be. I knew that was their minor league team, so their minor league team arena was where I grew up. So I grew up watching the Tennessee Smokies play and I knew that was the Cubs minor leagues team. So like I followed into the Cubs. So like I have a legit reason to like the Cubs yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm a Lions fan, clearly, but I also have a Minnesota Vikings jersey up on my wall and that's from my boy, tyler. He played at the same high school as me, me, and now he plays for the vikings.
Speaker 1:So it's like, oh shit, yeah, so you have a little bit they make it past us.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying because, like he's on my, he's on the team, we had the same experience. Because, like you watch those guys from like yeah, pro, right, bro, we're working part-time jobs to fucking millionaires. I'm saying like right, but like yeah, I get so much shade.
Speaker 1:They're like oh, you're a bandwagon. I'm like no, I'm like, listen, I've liked the Cubs since I was fucking little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me address that too real quick. Fuck everyone who calls anybody a bandwagon fan. Right, and I'm not a quote, unquote per se bandwagon fan. But like you're a fan of something because you enjoy to watch them, right, like, if you like watching someone that makes you a fan. So like if one team happens to start being good and you're like fucking love watching that team because they're that good, you're not a fucking like fuck that term bandwagon fan. Like what are you supposed to do? Let me just fucking right, not like watching the fucking best team in the league. I'm saying like, right, I get. I'm saying that's like my boy josh fucking. Uh, people always say bandwagon fans when people root for the Heat. When LeBron went there, it's like, yeah, that's my favorite player, that's why I'm not going to root for his fucking team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I get the whole like I somewhat understand the whole bandwagon thing, like when you just start liking a team when they're winning and shit like that. But like you, you said like if you follow your favorite player, like I get that too yeah, I mean like if your guy from boston went to fucking the marlins.
Speaker 2:Would you have been a marlin fan or what?
Speaker 1:the shortstop maybe like not not a die hard, because even after the run even after boston traded nomar. Because they traded nomar the year the same year, they won the fucking series yeah like right before they won the fucking series, they traded nomar I was pissed off, who the?
Speaker 2:did they trim to.
Speaker 1:I want to say Chicago Cubs, cubs, he went to the Cubs. Yeah, Fuck, so like at the same time, I'm not mad because, he went to another team that I liked, but I would have loved to see Nomar win a fucking series.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like I've been told, I'm a bandwagon fan because I like Boston and the Cubs. But like, at the same time, I'm like, look, I've liked the Cubs since I was a kid. I fucking like Boston since I was like 11. So that's like 2001. Three or four years before they won the series, so you can't tell me I'm a bandwagon fan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if the Lions started winning and we started getting more fans, I would not be mad at all, bro. I'd be happy, I'd be excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:My team used to fucking suck dick and they were awesome. I ain't calling you a bandwagon fan?
Speaker 1:No, and all my friends know that I'm a fucking like Lions fan, so like they definitely Can't tell me I'm a bandwagon fan If Detroit ever started winning.
Speaker 2:That was one thing. Actually, I was gonna tell you too. Is that's different About being at a Football game? Is your home being a home crowd Like has an actual Fucking like a direct effect On the game Cause.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 2:More like it's like a chess match, almost you know, and you're calling shots for the play and say the Chicago Bears on offense, and you're fucking like you're in the stands and third down, bro. You better be fucking screaming. Your fucking dick off, bro. You don't want Mitch Trubisky to hear shit, communicate shit. You want the fucking big motherfucker on your team to fuck him up, bro.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Man, and that's what's dope about. Being at a Lions game is fucking, because we suck, dude. I want to go, I want to go. We're so passionate to win. So, like on those third downs, bro, we're there.
Speaker 1:My opinion, detroit fans are like definitely in the top three of the best and loyal fans you'll ever see.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude like for sure.
Speaker 2:For sure, who else is in there for you?
Speaker 1:Exactly. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, yeah, it's fucking bro, we got to go. I was going to say earlier too, it sucks, because, corona, I don't know when we're going to be able to go. Oh, dude, it sucks yeah.
Speaker 1:They're like no screaming because you're spitting and your spit is going on other people. Right, but fucking, it's so weird watching the NBA and the baseball right now because there's no fans. I didn't watch the baseball, but I've watched some baseball, but I watched the Yankees beat fucking Boston's ass and it pissed me off because I fucking hate the Yankees. I fucking hate the Yankees. I fucking hate the Yankees. Dude, fuck the Yankees. Fucking hate the Yankees. Everyone hates the Yankees. You hate the Yankees. You hate the Yankees. Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:I like Aaron Judge, bro. Fuck Aaron Judge, no, fuck Aaron Judge, no, he's good.
Speaker 1:Aaron Judge is a baller. He can play ball, but like fuck the Yankees dude.
Speaker 2:You know why he's tripping out, isn't he like fucking, like 6'9"? I think so he's tall as fuck.
Speaker 1:He's big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro. He's like tight in the NFL if he wanted to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's definitely like unnormally sized for fucking baseball.
Speaker 2:Is he like freakishly athletic or not?
Speaker 1:I don't know about that. He might be.
Speaker 2:Is he fat now or what? I remember when he was like younger, he was like fucking, just jacked.
Speaker 1:He might be fat now. I hope he's fat now. I'm just saying Go Sox. But yeah, fuck the Yankees dude. But yeah, we'll definitely Hit up a fucking Lions game.
Speaker 2:Bro, we have to and we'll definitely get drunk.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure, for sure, tailgate that bitch and then Go in the game. Game, bro, we have to, and we'd definitely get drunk. Oh for sure, for sure. Tailgate that bitch and then go in the game.
Speaker 2:You want to let us know what the conspiracy is.
Speaker 1:Right 2006 NBA Finals.
Speaker 2:And who played.
Speaker 1:Miami Heat and Dallas Mavericks. Do you remember watching this series? How old were you at this series?
Speaker 2:I was 16. You were 16?
Speaker 1:Yes, so you're like 13. You're like what? Three years younger than me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was 13.
Speaker 1:So okay, do you remember watching this series?
Speaker 2:I remember watching the Pistons lose to the Heat. I remember this kid. His name was because I was a Pistons fan. They're the first I saw the Red Wings win a championship. But I didn't like I don't know, I don't know why it didn't resonate with me, but like the 0-4 Pistons Dude hands down, okay, hands down one of like probably top three NBA championship teams of all time.
Speaker 1:That's dope, because you've got to think the 0-4 Pistons they had zero chance of beating LA. You know what I mean. It's crazy. At that time none of them were really all-stars besides probably Ben Wallace.
Speaker 2:Nobody talks about this shit, bro.
Speaker 1:Exactly the 0-4. Pistons are easily one of the greatest championship teams of all time because they didn't win it with big names, they won it as a fucking team.
Speaker 2:Yo, and that's what fucking like, bro. I fucking love that bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fucking Tayshaun Prince. I fucking love Tayshaun.
Speaker 2:Me too. I love Tayshaun because I hate that he has a sour taste in his mouth about Detroit, because Detroit is where it happened. As a grown-up bro, I fucking love Tayshaun bro. He hit the block.
Speaker 1:Reggie, fuck you, reggie. Yeah, dude. No, when I played basketball I could score, I was a good scorer but I loved playing defense, like something inside of me dude, I got, I got, I got long arms. I, I have defensive arms yeah and like, just like I still have my Tayshaun jersey, so like when I go to Pistons games, I rock that bitch that's dope.
Speaker 1:I rock my Tayshaun jersey like I want to take my son to a game he has never been so uh, he can rock my Grant Hill jersey while I rock them Tayshaun. But dude, tayshaun was my boy. I fucking loved tayshaun, for instance, but all four pistons man yeah dude, I was so excited when I found it because I wasn't sure where it was. I'm like fuck man, like but, my son too.
Speaker 2:Man, that'd be fucking, I don't have something like, like that.
Speaker 1:The minute I put it on him I was like dude, the fucking pride in me just sky high Bro. Fuck yeah, bro, Dude, I love it. We bought him a fucking Calvin Johnson jersey just recently. He fucking loves that jersey jersey, he loves to wear it, but even though Johnson doesn't play anymore, but still like one of the greatest Lions to ever play.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like so what stuff did you look up for the podcast? I started listening to some videos, but I didn't even get into it.
Speaker 1:I went to YouTube in 2006, raved and shit like that. It just brought up D-Wade's how much fucking foul shots he got to fucking shoot. Compared to Dallas 25 in one game. I'm like, come on, he taught him alone on that 25, tie Dallas, his whole team on free throws. He taught Him alone On that 25, tie Dallas, this whole team On free throws.
Speaker 2:Can you still see me?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm about to look it up right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have it all written down and shit.
Speaker 2:Oh bet, yeah, go ahead, so alright. So how many free throws Did they shoot? Did the Miami Heat shoot Versus?
Speaker 1:the.
Speaker 2:Versus the Mavericks that year. That series, yeah series. I apologize.
Speaker 1:All right. So Miami shot a total of 207 free throws, averaging 34.5 points a game. Dallas shot a total of 155 free throws, averaging 28.8 points a game.
Speaker 2:Wait, hold on One more time. Miami, he had how many?
Speaker 1:207 total free throws.
Speaker 2:Miami had 207.
Speaker 1:Dallas had 155.
Speaker 2:Huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so average scoring point, though, was a 34.5 for miami and 28.5 for dallas, so it's a total of 5.7 points the difference but if you go back and look at the scores and shit the games Miami won, they won by three points or less.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's a good-ass fucking point.
Speaker 1:That is a good-ass point.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get the scores right now. So game one.
Speaker 1:Game one.
Speaker 2:Before the referees jumped in they saw the Mavericks put 10 on them 10.
Speaker 1:Game two they put up 14 on them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then that's when shit flipped.
Speaker 2:In game 3, the refs were like oh shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so game 3, miami won by 2.
Speaker 2:Like 2 points. That is crazy. Yeah, the fucking point total for game 3.
Speaker 1:Although, yeah, game 4, though, was just a fucking blowout. They won by 24. Miami did Miami won by 24. How many free throws in that game? I don't know on that game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I apologize, that was a dickhead question to ask.
Speaker 1:Probably a lot, though, but in game five they only won by one point. I believe it was 100 to 101. And then game six, they won by three. So even though like what's that Go ahead?
Speaker 2:How many free throws did DeWayne Wade shoot in game five, when they only won by one point?
Speaker 1:I believe it was 25. He was shot in game five, 25 or 27.
Speaker 2:I could fucking just let me see if it tells me Game five.
Speaker 1:D-Wade Wade shot 25. Three throws in game five 25.
Speaker 2:Holy shit, that is. Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1:But also in game five he got fouled with 1.9 left on the clock by Dirk. But if you go back and like watch it, dirk never touched him. That's when he like went through the defenders and threw up that fucking crazy-ass shot, missed completely. Dirk never touched him and they called a foul on Dirk Nowinski and that's what sent Wade to the line to hit the winning free throws.
Speaker 2:See. So now, if you do an audio version of this, you got to put that video in, because I want to see that shit.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Fuck yeah, you know what I'll do, what I can?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2:Seriously man.
Speaker 1:All right, so 06 finals. Yes, heat 06 finals yes, heat, mavericks, mavericks. Do you remember? Do you remember the series?
Speaker 2:I remember, because the I didn't think, the I mean, I'm a Pistons fan, so I thought the Pistons were going to win. I did, too this kid Jordan told me that Antonio Walker, dwayne Wade and Shaq were going to beat the Pistons. Like fuck you right. And they, and they did, they did, they made it there. I remember Jerry Stackhouse was on the Mavericks.
Speaker 1:Stackhouse. Yeah, fucking love Stackhouse.
Speaker 2:You know what I read or not read? Look at that. I watched a video online and said I read you know what I heard in one of those videos I watched today and prepared for this podcast Stackhouse in this series too. It was another sketchy part.
Speaker 1:He's actually going to talk about that. We'll definitely get into Sackhouse's suspension yeah my bad. Do you remember who you had in this series, who you wanted to win? I?
Speaker 2:had the Heat because I'm not a hater. When they beat the Pistons, they gave my respect, so I had to root for them. Plus, Dwyane Wade was sweet he was he was suave, 24 years old, young.
Speaker 1:He was on the rise. I had the Mavericks.
Speaker 2:You had the Mavericks. They were the favorite at the time they were the favorite For real.
Speaker 1:They were the favorite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's crazy, so all right. So who's his Mavericks roster? Who's on the Mavericks team?
Speaker 1:Dude, they had Dirk. Obviously Dirk, the fucking German freak.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fucking love Dirk.
Speaker 2:Dirk is a shit.
Speaker 1:Dirk's one of my favorite players. I fucking love Dirk. Dirk is my favorite player.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like most of the juicy stuff, skill versus athleticism.
Speaker 1:He's, especially when uh they faced the uh, the heat in uh 2011 it actually beat them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, dude, like that was a fucking crazy series, yeah, man, but um, I, I at that time they had, uh, they had jason terry, terry, dirk Lewinsky, jerry Stackhouse. They had one more, somewhat bigger name, but I can't fucking remember who it was, but I know they had Jason Terry, dirk Lewinsky and Jerry Stackhouse. And then the Heat, they had O'Neal, they had Shaq. They just signed Shaq. They had Dwayne Wade, they had fucking Jason White, chocolate Williams. Yeah, which.
Speaker 1:Duke Cabal for a white boy. Fuck yeah, I love Jason Williams, but who else did they have, haslam?
Speaker 2:The Heat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, haslam's still there.
Speaker 2:How crazy is that.
Speaker 1:Is he really?
Speaker 2:He's still a Miami Heat player.
Speaker 1:No way.
Speaker 2:Remember I told you I reach out to everybody every day. He's one of the guys I reached out to. Really, yeah For nothing back Miami Heat Dude. I hope he reaches back out to you. His manager hit me up and he said all right, so I reached out to like his company because I couldn't really find like how to reach out to him, and the guy from the company was like, hey, I'll tell him. I was like that's pretty much, it not?
Speaker 1:that shit, that'd be dope. That would be a cool episode. I didn't know he was still fucking playing one of is going to suck right.
Speaker 2:Bro, he is for sure old, but he played with Alonzo Mourning. Right, there's so many greats. He played with Alonzo Mourning Shaquille O'Neal, Dwayne Wade, lebron James, chris Bosh. Bro, he played with so many greats. Ray Allen, you know what I'm saying? Ray Allen, yeah, ray Allen, because of his tenure and how long he was there. You know what I'm saying. He played with a lot of the fucking greats dude.
Speaker 1:And he's still there.
Speaker 2:He's still there.
Speaker 1:That's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize that. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:Let's get of it. I apologize, all right. So give, give me, give me your backstory on the series. What do you know? So I know that d-way was like the up-and-comer he was, he was fucking flash like 24 years old yeah, he's like young, young, d-way and then I know that shack was fucking on that team too, but people were like I don't know, bro, it was so crazy to see Shaq outshined by someone Right and D-Wade. So I remember D-Wade was like that guy, this was before. Lebron was like fucking LeBron for real.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure. Because, LeBron didn't come in until 03.
Speaker 2:So he came in the same time, the same draft class, but D-Wave won a championship sooner.
Speaker 1:Way before. I mean he went to fucking, LeBron went to Cleveland.
Speaker 2:Yeah, LeBron went to like 2012, 2013.
Speaker 1:Like six, seven years later.
Speaker 2:That's crazy to think about?
Speaker 1:What was LeBron going to do with Cleveland? Yeah, I know they got swept by the fucking Spurs in the finals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when was that 05? No, it wasn't 05.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't 05.
Speaker 2:No, not 05. 07?
Speaker 1:07 or 08?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was 07.
Speaker 1:No, when did Boston win? Was it 08?
Speaker 2:Boston was like 08., let's see 08 or 09. I can look it up right now.
Speaker 1:Here's the beauty of Google, right I'm pretty sure Boston won in 08 or 09. I want to say 08.
Speaker 2:If you're wrong, you have to buy our Lions tickets.
Speaker 1:Alright, but I'm pretty sure it's 08. Boston won it.
Speaker 2:So it was the fucking Honolulu conspiracies they actually won. 08 was the Lakers.
Speaker 1:No way.
Speaker 2:Boston won it in 08. I'm fucking tripping. You're right, boston won it in 08.
Speaker 1:Boom Alright, lying tickets are on you. Fuck bro. I was gonna say I'm pretty sure Boston won it in 08.
Speaker 2:Boom. All right line tickets are on you, fuck bro.
Speaker 1:I was going to say I'm pretty sure Boston won at 08.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, this is 104. 05 was the Spurs. I remember that.
Speaker 1:This is when they swept Cleveland right. No.
Speaker 2:Pistons no 05. Pistons Pistons is the 7th in the. Spurs yeah.
Speaker 1:Fucking Spurs. My wife's a Spurs fan.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Fuck the Spurs.
Speaker 1:She's from San Antonio.
Speaker 2:I don't like the Spurs. I'll never like the Spurs.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:They rip my heart out.
Speaker 1:She rubs it in my face all the time. Fuck it, goddamn it.
Speaker 2:What's wrong with you? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Goddamn Filipinos. I know right, Fuck the Spurs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so D-Wade was the man though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was In 06. Yeah, yeah, because they were all like what two years in?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, two or three years in. Yeah, Wade shut up to a number you know. Thinking back on it now because they were talking about it. I do remember like thinking like it was kind of like a boring series because of those free throws though. So that is kind of crazy because he shot it.
Speaker 1:He shot a total of 97 free throws yeah, that's crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2:So you. So you said the mavericks shot what? 155 or some shit. Yeah 155 to 207 and d-way shot 97 yeah so he shot almost as much more than yeah, that's crazy dude, that's nuts yeah like you can't explain that yeah especially with um.
Speaker 1:Did you, did you research this shit? I started I watched uh part of one of the rigged videos did you see that shit with that that tim donahue donahue the referee with tim donahue.
Speaker 2:Ref thated that series.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Did you see that shit?
Speaker 2:I did not see it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:He said that he retired in 07.
Speaker 2:Son.
Speaker 1:But he came out and he wrote a book and everything I remember, saying how the NBA was rigged because of the referees.
Speaker 2:You guys don't know, Tim. Anyone who's listening? Who's more fucking listening to the Drunken Spoozy podcast? No, but Tim Donahue was an NBA referee who got caught cheating.
Speaker 1:He did 15 months in prison.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, he did 15 months in prison. He refereed that series that we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1:He did, he did and he came out and said that all the referees gambled on that game. And they also said that all the referees gambled on that game and it. And they also said that, uh, because of mark cuban, like the fucking league hated mark cuban because of, like, how rash, yeah, I fucking love mark cuban I fucking love mark cuban, too dude dude yes and what are the same lines?
Speaker 1:right, I love mark cuban, but they uh, they said the referees played a big part in that game because Mark Cuban was so like outspoken, like in your face about shit. They didn't like that. So they say they conspiracied against Mark Cuban to like make the fucking Mavericks lose because the referees did not like Mark Cuban, to make the fucking Mavericks lose because the referees did not like Mark Cuban.
Speaker 2:Bro, that makes I'm convinced.
Speaker 1:I am too, and there's so much more shit.
Speaker 2:What else?
Speaker 1:The Stackhouse suspension.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro. And then you look at that foul. I watched the foul.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask you did you watch the foul?
Speaker 2:That is not worthy of suspension whatsoever.
Speaker 1:No, it was a flagrant one.
Speaker 2:Yes, but that's a foul that happens in the playoffs, bro.
Speaker 1:And that's what they called.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we'll watch the playoffs this year and we'll see that foul.
Speaker 1:I guarantee it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But after that, the fucking, the league officials after the game, reviewed it and upgraded it to a flagrant two in an automatic suspension.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it was called something on the court by the official referee and the league was like let's add more to this.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Like you said, the Mavericks whooped their ass in the first two games.
Speaker 1:They did by 10 and 14.
Speaker 2:Who was home court?
Speaker 1:Mavs I believe it was the Mavericks.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because they were favored.
Speaker 2:Bro, this shit's actually fucking true then bro, it all makes sense, dude. Bro, it was the fucking best.
Speaker 1:But I also watched another video about like how it wasn't rigged and that he just like outplayed the Mavericks. Yeah, which I see the points, but there are a lot of fouls that D-Wade got called on. That weren't fouls Like in game three what game was it? It was game like five. When D-Wade drove the lane, he fucking elbowed Dirk Nowinski in the face and they caught a foul on Wade, on Dirk Nowinski. He fouled Wade when Wade fucking elbowed him in the face and that's what. Wade went to the free throw line and hit the free throws. They won the game.
Speaker 2:Basketball's like that kind of thing too.
Speaker 1:Dude. All sports are Dude, like boxing, for instance. Boxing's one of the most corrupt fucking sports, With the mafia back in the day, and shit like that.
Speaker 2:He's a badass. But when I watched that fight originally Tony, you know talking about the guy from Detroit who just won recently Tony something, whatever, he's a Detroit boxer. He won a championship and I watched that fight and I was like fuck, it sucks, he lost that fight. He kind of got his ass whooped.
Speaker 1:And then he wins.
Speaker 2:I was like oh all right, sweet, I guess.
Speaker 1:I saw that with the UFC dude recently. I'm like there's no way this bitch won and then the other person wins. I'm like that's some sketchy shit.
Speaker 2:Next holiday, bro, I had Dean Thomas on the podcast Dude.
Speaker 1:Holiday won that fucking fight. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. Holiday won that fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro. And then when they oh shit, and that's what I'm saying too. Like I get so confused because, like I'm in a room full of like fucking people you know what I'm saying Like I'm watching this at a house party, pretty much.
Speaker 1:I just watch it here with my wife.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I go out but like died before me A lot of times. Sometimes I go out but like everybody in the room stood up like what you know what I'm saying, confused, like how is there like this amount of people confused Right? Like you, like two people out of three, like majority obviously in this room, saw it the other way. Yeah, like somehow fucking YouTube came up like study. Like I'm saying like majority of fucking, like I have a bigger fucking case study of like how many people thought this won. There's no way that I know.
Speaker 1:No Holiday. Won that fight, Easily won that fight.
Speaker 2:I meant that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all my opinion. All sports are fucking rigged Like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I tried to.
Speaker 1:Which sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why I fuck with MMA the most, because, like it's mano-a-mano, there's no. There can be shady decisions, you know but if a guy knocks another guy, out. Yeah, I mean it's clear as day to fucking knock out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. There's no like bad, like offsides or like a pass interference. A ref just magically didn't see. No, flags aren't getting picked up.
Speaker 1:You know what sleep.
Speaker 2:You both equally have a chance to fucking do this. Referee ain't going to stop you from punching this guy. I mean, obviously he's knocked out.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly.
Speaker 2:But it's crazy that shit. Fuck bro, that's when I watched the video that you were talking about, where he was arguing against it not being a conspiracy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I mean, like I said, the Mavs were up 2-0 in the series and then lost four straight by three points or less on three of them. Like, come on, dude, like if you, if you go back and actually watch some of those fouls, wade never got fucking touched. Like it's fucking crazy. Like I know, I watched the one video where they're like, if you break it down this, the mavericks weren't hitting their shots, they weren't playing defense and shit like that. I'm like, yeah, they may have not been hitting their shots, but the defense when they were getting called on fouls weren't actually fucking fouls. It was crazy.
Speaker 2:I wish, yeah, man, I can't wait to see if you end up editing it and putting that shit in and chopping it up, Because I wish I could see the play now too.
Speaker 1:Right. It's just crazy, Because even in would they make it to a game six. Yeah, the game six. At the end of the game you see Gary Payton pulling on the jersey of Stackhouse as he's shooting the final three. It's clearly a foul. I mean, I don't know if he would have hit three or would not, but the refs didn't call it and that just ended the series in the heat one.
Speaker 2:So Stackhouse had a chance to tie it up or some shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the final game they lost by three. You clearly see Gary Payton pull his jersey before he's shooting and the refs don't call it. Gary Payton and Pat Riley because he was the head coach at the time came out and said, yeah, I clearly fouled him, like they both admitted to the foul, but the refs never called it.
Speaker 2:Well, Gary Payne's got a ring. That's fucking dope for him, bro.
Speaker 1:Right, good for Gary Payne. I like Gary Payne.
Speaker 2:I like Gary Payne.
Speaker 1:But at the same time, like I, don't know if it would have helped the Mavericks at all.
Speaker 2:anyways, it's so crazy because I wonder if the Pistons situation they were just so good that the fucking refs couldn't make that happen. Or maybe they just didn't have corrupt referees?
Speaker 1:You got to think about it because the Pistons, after the 0-4 championship, how many consecutive conferences did we win?
Speaker 2:Four.
Speaker 1:Yeah, four or five. You got to think about that. I only went five straight, yeah, we got swept by the Spurs in the next year.
Speaker 2:It was game seven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got swept. It did go to game seven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I remember fucking Robert Horry hit a corner three in Detroit.
Speaker 1:Fucking Robert Horry.
Speaker 2:Fuck you, robert Horry. Yeah, fuck you, robert Horry, Fuck the Spurs.
Speaker 1:My wife's going to listen to this. She probably heard it right now. She already texted me about it. She's like I heard what you said. I was like I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:Fuck the Spurs. Fuck the Spurs.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, no, I do remember that the next series was Game 7, spurs won.
Speaker 2:Another conspiracy, bro. The fucking Bro Tim Duncan slept on it as a goat bro. He got a couple of MVPs, a couple of defensive players of the years and five rings, and no one ever talks about him.
Speaker 1:That's true, except for my wife. She loves Tim.
Speaker 2:She loves Tim Duncan, his bitching about his wife, except for my fucking wife, she don't shut the hell up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got five rings on he should be up there.
Speaker 2:He has two MVPs too fucking wife, she don't shut the hell up, right, but yeah, he's got five rings dog. Yeah, bro, he should be up there. He has two.
Speaker 1:MVPs too. Right, he's one Of the league. Yeah, two MVPs, five rings and he don't get the mentions that he should.
Speaker 2:It's so crazy how that shit works, sometimes too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:In MMA Habib's a fucking monster, but everyone wants to dick ride. Mcgregor Right. Mcgregor's sweet and fun to watch too.
Speaker 1:I love McGregor.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I hope they fight again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just fucking don't know, man, because Habib's such a monster he might fucking.
Speaker 1:I don't think he wants to fight him again.
Speaker 2:Who Khabib?
Speaker 1:Khabib doesn't want to fight McGregor again. I think he thinks McGregor's way under him.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I'm not mad at him for thinking it either.
Speaker 1:No, I think Khabib's going to fight Ferguson.
Speaker 2:He's supposed to. He was supposed to, he's supposed to. That should be a conspiracy thing too. Five fights they were scheduled to fight five times. Each one was canceled. How crazy is that? Oh, really.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:This was the fifth time they tried doing it.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you remember when do you watch Holloway vs Dustin Poirier at all?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that fight was supposed to be Habib vs Ferguson, right I didn't know that. Yeah, there's three more before that. Even it's fucking nuts.
Speaker 1:It does suck. Yeah, all sports are fucking shady.
Speaker 2:They are, bro. The NFL now is so egregious about it it's like I can't even respect to fucking watch this shit sometimes If I wasn't such a diehard Lions fan, and I'm even, like, less of a Lions fan than I used to be, but like, and not because of Lions, it's because the NFL is so fucking trash bro, so fucking garbage man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I watch, like I watched the Lions, I watched the Tennessee Titans, but I'm also a Dolphins fan, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Yo, me too. But I even like my shit's super random. I started playing with them in Madden because I was so good at Madden. I was like I tell my friends like remember the Dolphins sucked dick and they like Ronnie Brown.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they sucked so long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chad Haney was our quarterback, chad Haney.
Speaker 1:Fucking Chad Haney.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, fucking, fucking, chad Haney. I was so good at Madden I would tell my boys like I'm about to pick the Dolphins, I'm still going to beat you. And I was like no fucking way. Exactly Because real shit, though, in Madden Ronnie Brown was a dog bro.
Speaker 1:He was. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2:He was, yeah, Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. They were cold as fuck, Dude.
Speaker 1:Ricky Williams, he could run that block.
Speaker 2:Bro. Yeah, his shit was crazy, His story. I didn't know any of that shit about him either until I was older.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his story was crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kicked out for weed or some shit.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fucking weed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, since Dan Marino in the 90s, my uncle was a Miami fan, so he's the one who put it in my head to fucking like the Dolphins. So ever since Dan Marino in the 90s, I liked the Dolphins.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like a bandwagon because, well, I mean obviously the Madden stuff. So I always was partial to them. I wasn't like a fan per se at that point, but I knew their roster. But then they signed Sue and I was like yeah, after Detroit. Yeah, I was like I'm a fan of players and although Sue did some ho shit to Detroit, I still like he did.
Speaker 1:I still like he was a dirty motherfucker. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2:I came here to be mad at him. Think about fucking like hey, I'll give you $12 million to come play here in fucking winter shit Detroit. Or I'll give you $15 million to come play here in Miami.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're going to take that fucking $15 in Miami.
Speaker 2:Oh, by the way, we don't have a state tax too. That's true, like bro. Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 1:Miami yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:That's why I was like I can't be mad.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. I put myself in those guys shoes like, yeah, more money, miami, bitch. Bye, you know right, being a dolphins fan and being a miami fan.
Speaker 2:And then I see like sue, even though he's dirty as fuck going to miami, I'm like, I'm not mad yeah, and the other dope part too was like I got to say as a lions fan, like ha, like they're fucking still terrible. You know what I'm saying, like right they were yeah, yeah, they had sue and cameron wake yeah once uh, once tanner hill went to tennessee, I was.
Speaker 1:I was excited for that that shit was crazy.
Speaker 2:He was not shit in Miami.
Speaker 1:He wasn't. And then when he went to Tennessee, like Mariota started the first six games in Tennessee that knew shit. And then they're like all right, we're going to play Tannehill. He took us to the AFC Championship. Bro crazy man Dude, we should have went to the fucking Super Bowl. We should have won that shit. Fuck you, kansas City. I'm a huge Titans fan. I almost wore my Titans hat but I was like, no, I'm going to wreck the Boston one tonight.
Speaker 2:Are you more a Titans fan or more a Lions fan?
Speaker 1:Titans To me. Tennessee is home to me just because I grew up there. I grew up mostly in Tennessee and then I like I grew up a Tennessee fan and a Titans fan like or a Lions fan. So I was like mixed, but like, as I got older and started watching more I was like, yeah, I like my time, I like my Titans, especially in the fucking like what was it 99? Super Bowl. My Titans Especially in the fucking like what was it 99?
Speaker 2:Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:We got to the fucking one-yard line God damn it dude, it was 99, I think against St Louis I think yeah. We got one-yard line and fucking lost it. Dude.
Speaker 2:I couldn't imagine that shit happened with the Lions. I had to imagine myself being happy that we got that far, but like I would be heartbroken for sure.
Speaker 1:Do you think we'll see a Lions in the Super Bowl in our lifetime? Fuck, no, I don't either. Fuck no. I don't either.
Speaker 2:Which sucks. Yeah, but I don't see it. I was yeah, but I don't see it. I was mad and I still didn't believe it. Matt Stafford, fuck this game. This ain't real Right. Yeah, oh yeah, it sucks. So who was a better quarterback to you, tannehill or Stafford?
Speaker 1:Tannehill.
Speaker 2:Tannehill. Yeah, because he can run right or like what.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don, he can run right or like what, don't get me wrong, stafford, he's a good quarterback. I'm not a Stafford fan, so don't feel bad. It's funny.
Speaker 2:Tannehill or Stafford. Yeah, bro, I fucking like maybe I'm drunk, but like I would make the argument. You know I like to win football games. I give a fuck about the stats, bro. You can dick ride stats with yards all you want, but touchdowns, rushing and passing are what matter, and interceptions. I'm saying those are stats that equate to wins. If you get a half a yard, that could also mean you're just losing the entire game and throwing it. Yards don't really mean shit, but yards, touchdowns interceptions.
Speaker 1:That's what fucks up, the way I see it, with the argument of Tannehill or Stafford, like Stafford got us to what two playoff games yeah fucking.
Speaker 2:Tannehill came into Tennessee sat out the fucking first six games and Tannehill came into fucking Tennessee One game.
Speaker 1:Sat out the fucking first six games Because I love Mariota too.
Speaker 2:They must have a good-ass coaching staff or some shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, they do.
Speaker 2:Because, tannehill, they tried to bring that shit to work in Miami forever they did and it just wasn't happening.
Speaker 1:And then they traded Tannehill to Tennessee and I was like how is that going to work when? We have Mariota. I fucking love Mariota. He wasn't winning games.
Speaker 2:How about James Winston only signed for a million dollars this year to be the backup quarterback of the Saints? I mean, I guess he just guards the yards.
Speaker 1:I don't think Winston's ever a league quarterback. I think he has a few lives, but I think it shocked me that Brady went to Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:I couldn't wait for him to.
Speaker 1:He was going to go to Tennessee. I saw that His wife, giselle, was spotted in Tennessee looking at schools for their children. But Tennessee decided to give fucking Tannehill.
Speaker 2:They beat the Patriots.
Speaker 1:They did. They beat the Patriots, they beat Baltimore. They went to the AFC Championship.
Speaker 2:Man bro, the Chiefs were down against the fucking Titans too.
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, don't get me started on that shit.
Speaker 2:Patrick Mahomes is a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Fuck you, patrick, god damn it.
Speaker 2:Dude, I do. He's in your division, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is Patrick Mahomes, fucking great quarterback, fucking elite quarterback, good for his age. But fuck you, patrick Mahomes, because Tennessee should have won that shit.
Speaker 2:We were off. You're a nice guy, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1:Redskins.
Speaker 2:No, lightskin, team Lightskin.
Speaker 1:Oh, lightskin, okay, I get that, but God damn it, dude. We should have won that shit. We should have been to the Super Bowl. We should have won that shit. We should have been to the.
Speaker 2:Super Bowl. We should have won the Super Bowl. I was watching that, I was rooting for them, not actually against them, but I was rooting for them all the way through because, like that was like a pissing situation. Yeah, team, you know what I'm saying. Jerry is bird Fucking Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1:Oh, derrick Henry, he's a fucking monster. Yeah, davis was.
Speaker 2:He went to Western too, western Michigan.
Speaker 1:He did, but we just signed it. Tennessee signed Eric Henry to like a max contract.
Speaker 2:So we got him back. Thank God, Dope thing about him too. I was talking with Eric Anders. He went to Alabama. He's UFC now, Because Henry went to Alabama.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Did they play together? No, I think he was a little bit after him or came in his last year, but he said that he doesn't have a lot of carries so his body is healthy to go another four years. He's like that's the only running back contract that's worth the money because he doesn't have that many carries on him as like Ezekiel did when he signed his shit. Fuck the.
Speaker 1:Cowboys. Yeah, fuck the Cowboys, I tell my wife that every day she's a.
Speaker 2:Cowboys fan. It's just because the media tries to shove them down your throat. It's like, bro, I don't fucking want this.
Speaker 1:It's like Dax wanted the max fucking contract. You're not worth it.
Speaker 2:Bro, you're not worth it Dude, dax.
Speaker 1:he wants money and I'm like Dax, you haven't earned it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:You know, dax, definitely not worth that bro.
Speaker 1:No, he's not bro.
Speaker 2:I was tripping seeing all the money he was denying, which, I guess, get what you can, but I mean I don't know he was asking way too much From what he's worth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dallas was like we'll get rid of you, we don't give a fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's why I was like bro, they don't get fucking James Winston or fucking Cam Newton. You know what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know who would you rather have? No go ahead with you or fucking Cam Newton. You know what I'm saying, right? I mean, I don't know who would you rather have. Go ahead what? No, go ahead with you who? Would you rather have James Winston or Dak Dak Dak, you got a Dak.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where did Winston go? New Orleans.
Speaker 1:That's right he did, because I remember he's like, oh, he's gonna be A backup for Breeze Because Newton Went to Patriots Yep Right, which I'm curious To see that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. But you see, like Fucking, a lot of those guys Opted out of their contracts this year, a lot of their. Yeah, they didn't have one defense Last year I think they had Two or three starters already opt out of their contracts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then when Tom Brady went to the fucking books, the books and. Gronk came out of retirement.
Speaker 2:Gronk, they have fucking already had. What's that receiver there? Mike Evans? Yeah, goodwin or Godwin, whatever his name is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you got him with Gronk, with Brady.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, that's crazy shit.
Speaker 2:Oh, I might have to dip some of these. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Right, all right, so all right. Yeah, we'll dip soon, so let me get your final thoughts.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I apologize, man. No, you're good dude. Yeah, I apologize, it's still a good episode.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck. I'm going to upload this whole fucking thing. Sweet, I'll, probably. I'll, just I'll fucking edit the little bathroom breaks, we'll have to do it again.
Speaker 2:for sure, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, dude. This has been a good episode. Hope maybe the next one will be fucking live together, Because we're both from fucking Michigan. Yeah, man, we're what. Maybe like 30 minutes apart.
Speaker 2:We got to have like a yeah man, where would we do it at? We got to figure that out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll do another show together.
Speaker 2:I'm down.
Speaker 1:Your final thoughts on the 06 conspiracies. What's your thought?
Speaker 2:You know what my final thought is, and this is on all conspiracies we won't do shit about it, bro. We still fucking buy a ticket to watch it. That's true. And in fucking sports, bro. That's true. And in fucking sports, which fucking sucks it does. It just fucking sucks.
Speaker 1:It does. You owe us lion tickets though? Fuck, I'm going to hold you to that Listen just take two more. I'm going to hold you to that.
Speaker 2:Take a couple four horseman shots and forget it All right.
Speaker 1:Nope, I don't fuck with four horsemen anymore, so you always like I don't care if it's fucking like. Last fucking seats up, just like I want to go to a game with you.
Speaker 2:I, I will do it. I'm a man and if the lines open up and if the fucking tickets might be more expensive now too, because of COVID, because they got to do fucking like COVID shit, the fucking tickets might be more expensive now too, because of COVID, because they got to do fucking like COVID shit. Maybe We'll see, we'll, see, we'll have our fucking tissue for our noses because I'm going to buy some cheap ass, dude.
Speaker 1:Like real shit, even if we just go down to Detroit, don't even go to the game, Just fucking hit up a bar or something and then tailgate. I'm good with that.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm good with that. Yes, I'm good with that dude, we'll definitely go though too. All right, I'm fucking bro, you have to. I hope. I hope the world returns, bro, because it's fucking dope I bet well, fucking. Hey, thanks for having me on man dude thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having us uh easy off.
Speaker 2:Uh speak easy podcast yes, right, you guys, if you guys like sports, go ahead, check me out. I think my most interesting podcast for me is probably Glover Quinn, I think, because I actually came away like motivated from it. I was like, yeah, you know, but yeah, man, check me out. Sports, mma, mma, football probably my biggest stuff. I'm trying to get some more basketball guests, but they're harder to get a hold of. I'm trying to get Nate Robb. I'm going to have Shannon Briggs on soon. No shit, maybe we'll do that. Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:I'll get on that shit.
Speaker 2:He's helping train Jake Paul.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm going to shit.
Speaker 1:Talk him then. Go fucking Because like I'm Nate all the way.
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:See you, man yeah let me know and I'll get on that shit, I'm definitely looking for a fucking co-host, Even if we just do some shit like this man.
Speaker 1:Right, this was a good episode. I like this episode for sure.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me on man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, man, thanks for having me, or thanks for coming on having me, because you live streamed it. Speak Easy Podcast.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, it's easy.
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Speaker 1:No shit. What's the contest for?
Speaker 2:For the video game 2K21, the Mamba edition.
Speaker 1:Just a copy of it.
Speaker 2:Yep, we just did it with UFC 4 and I had a gentleman win and he was in Canada, which is a pain in the ass, but we got it done. He's getting a copy of the video game UFC 4 and that was for us to hit 1,000 followers. We're trying to hit 2,000 next. That's going to be the goal 2K, 2,000 followers. It just makes sense to do right.
Speaker 1:I'll be up in that bitch because I want 2K21.
Speaker 2:Fuck yeah, bro, so I'll fucking get up in that. Hell yeah, and we definitely only go for an in-person pop man.
Speaker 1:Thanks for that. Oh for sure man.
Speaker 2:Tell your wife that fuck the Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 1:I will. I will for sure.
Speaker 2:Fuck the.
Speaker 1:Spurs. Alright, man, thanks for coming on. We'll definitely do it live sometime with me and you.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, man Like in person. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:But thanks for coming on and we'll see you soon, no problem man. All right, man, See you guys have a good one.