Ever found yourself eyeing that stranger in a suit and wondering if they're not quite of this world? Well, Sabrina and I sure have, and in our latest podcast episode, we're taking you on a whirlwind tour of the mysterious Men in Black. Forget the comic book heroes; we're talking about the real deal. With a Natty Daddy in hand for me and a cotton candy IPA for Sabrina, we clink glasses of Mountain Java moonshine to the captivating tales of Howard Dahl's 1942 encounter with doughnut-shaped UFOs and a host of other historical run-ins with these ominous agents.
Amidst sips and laughs, we don't shy away from the darker side of conspiracy theories, discussing the daunting idea of being watched by the very government we chat about. We even question our son's newfound whistling skills—could he be the next great whistleblower? Diving into incidents like Robert Richardson's UFO collision and the Robinsons' home invasion, our conversation hits nerves as we ponder the unsettling tactics these so-called Men in Black employ to keep their secrets, well, secret. Are they guardians of government knowledge, or could they be something far more otherworldly?
Rounding out the episode, we tease the notion that these agents might just be extraterrestrial beings themselves, especially in light of the recent, albeit overshadowed, admissions by our government regarding UFOs. And because we're all about community and a good conspiracy, we're thrilled to announce our new Drunk Conspiracies Podcast Discussion Group. So pour a drink, pull up a chair, and join us—Sabrina, me, and potentially alien Men in Black—for a conversation that's equal parts eerie, enthralling, and downright entertaining.
Ever found yourself eyeing that stranger in a suit and wondering if they're not quite of this world? Well, Sabrina and I sure have, and in our latest podcast episode, we're taking you on a whirlwind tour of the mysterious Men in Black. Forget the comic book heroes; we're talking about the real deal. With a Natty Daddy in hand for me and a cotton candy IPA for Sabrina, we clink glasses of Mountain Java moonshine to the captivating tales of Howard Dahl's 1942 encounter with doughnut-shaped UFOs and a host of other historical run-ins with these ominous agents.
Amidst sips and laughs, we don't shy away from the darker side of conspiracy theories, discussing the daunting idea of being watched by the very government we chat about. We even question our son's newfound whistling skills—could he be the next great whistleblower? Diving into incidents like Robert Richardson's UFO collision and the Robinsons' home invasion, our conversation hits nerves as we ponder the unsettling tactics these so-called Men in Black employ to keep their secrets, well, secret. Are they guardians of government knowledge, or could they be something far more otherworldly?
Rounding out the episode, we tease the notion that these agents might just be extraterrestrial beings themselves, especially in light of the recent, albeit overshadowed, admissions by our government regarding UFOs. And because we're all about community and a good conspiracy, we're thrilled to announce our new Drunk Conspiracies Podcast Discussion Group. So pour a drink, pull up a chair, and join us—Sabrina, me, and potentially alien Men in Black—for a conversation that's equal parts eerie, enthralling, and downright entertaining.
Welcome to Drunk Conspiracies and Drunk Conspiracies.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to another episode of Drunk Conspiracies Podcast. Tonight I have returning guest for her third episode. Sabrina, my beautiful wife, say hi.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:All right, so you're back for your third episode.
Speaker 2:Yes, I am.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:We're doing the Men in Black. I thought I would say it.
Speaker 1:You jumped way into it. Yes, before I get into it. But yeah it. Yes, before I get into it. But yeah, we're talking about the Men in Black tonight, not the movie, the actual Men in Black. We may talk about the movie, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I am definitely going to it's a good movie.
Speaker 1:I'll definitely have opinions on it, but anyways. So what are we drinking tonight?
Speaker 2:So I'm drinking another Natty Daddy. I did have some wine earlier but like I'm totally drinking Natty Daddy, totally didn't dive into this Very actually kind of creeped out by this one, but okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not at all.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I am.
Speaker 1:I'll fight them in a black.
Speaker 2:Please stop. Okay, you know that freaks me out, I know fight them in a black, please stop.
Speaker 1:You know that freaks me out. I know I am drinking cotton candy haze by big lake brewing here locally in michigan I very much support his decision.
Speaker 2:I do not like sweets, though it's not sweet, though, though I can't.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. It's because this is a juicy New England IPA, so it doesn't even try it. Cotton candy?
Speaker 2:No, just try it it doesn't.
Speaker 1:you cannot taste cotton candy, you straight up taste just an IPA beer.
Speaker 2:I will try it, I promise you, I like IPAs.
Speaker 1:I promise you there's no cotton candy tint or anything to it. Fun, she's trying it right now.
Speaker 2:Okay, definitely not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be so sweet, no you cannot taste any cotton candy at all.
Speaker 1:I don't even know why they call it cotton candy haze.
Speaker 2:Well, because the aftertaste is definitely cotton candy.
Speaker 1:I don't taste any cotton candy, it's not super sweet, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Whatever, I can't.
Speaker 1:Whatever she's being a woman, no kidding, I love you and all you women out there.
Speaker 2:He does.
Speaker 1:Anyways, so that's what we're drinking tonight.
Speaker 2:Natty Daddy and cotton candy.
Speaker 1:Our shots tonight are Mountain Java. Mountain Java moonshot from Old Smoky Moonshine in Tennessee.
Speaker 2:Honestly, this is very sensitive on the stomach Like it's really good, but because we both have horrible heartburn Because we're getting up there, so we got really bad heartburn.
Speaker 1:I'm really old.
Speaker 2:We're not Okay, we're 30. We're 30, but you know what this I are. The heartburn is terrible. So we're going to try this and I shook my knife and I am ready to go, you ready I'm ready ready and bam salute better ah, just like the hills of tennessee all right
Speaker 2:so look, I want to jump into this. You want to? Let's do it so we're talking about the men in black. Of course, there was a movie made about it with will smith and tommy jones gotta love him, um, but apparently it's like a real conspiracy and when I first heard about it I was like that is crazy. I actually never thought that that movie was actually based on something. That's like a real thing. That apparently is horrifying.
Speaker 1:I don't know part of me always feels like every movie is based off of something god, well, I, I want to say, I should hope not, but yeah, it's it probably isn't, but just just in my fucked up head.
Speaker 2:I like to think that every movie is based off of something yeah, it just makes everything more interesting I'm gonna say, okay, probably, so let's set it man. So the first encounter or documented encounter with the men in black um was in 1942 with a man named howard doll. Now howard was out on a conversation, a con con conservation. Aha, he was on a conservation mission um out by moray island and that's in washington state. If you haven't been go, it's amazing never, been um.
Speaker 2:So when he was out there he saw like six donut shaped things, just like things like hovering above his boat. He would guess probably about a half mile or so above his boat and that would kind of freak me out. But eventually one of them started to fall and it fell into.
Speaker 2:Like it fell like I don't know how many feet, like over 1500 or whatever, and did it wreck into his boat well, it just dropped like a bunch of metallic debris, like I don't know if it wrecked, but it dropped a bunch of debris, okay. Now some of it hit his son, charles, and it was just kind of like on his arm like it wasn't a lot, but it actually it killed his dog oh shit no, it did.
Speaker 2:That's not cool no um, now he managed, through the loss of his dog or whatever, to manage to take some pictures. Okay, and in 1947, like that's kind of hard to do, Like watch your dog die and then like wind up your camera to take a fucking picture but he did, he managed to take some pictures of whatever the aircraft was.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, because like you see these fucking six donut-shaped objects hovering over you. He's already winding, yeah regardless of your dog dying or not. You're fucking getting this shit on film or camera or whatever you have.
Speaker 2:There would be a lot of things happening. I mean a lot of emotions to sift through. But he did, and I'm glad he did too, because, too, because something killed my dog, I'd be on it.
Speaker 2:I'm on it like fuck it she doesn't even have a dog we don't have a dog, we're not home enough true but, um, so like he took some pictures of it now later he was probably like what's going on, like what's gonna happen. He had to show someone. So what he ended up doing was he showed like his supervisor, because the minute anything weird happens to me, I immediately showed my, my supervisor. Um, he was just like, um, his supervisor's name was fred chrisman. Now he went over and he was just like look what happened, look at the pictures, blah, blah. And the guy did not believe him and he was like, whatever, I going to go and look for myself.
Speaker 1:Fair enough.
Speaker 2:It is fair. And so his supervisor, whatever Fred Chrisman, went out to the spa, wherever he was, to look to see if he could find anything that would kind of cooperate. I think he just basically wanted to call him a liar, but while he was out there basically wanted to call him a liar, but while he was out there, and he actually spotted an aircraft out there himself while he was out there. So definitely like a holy shit moment.
Speaker 2:Um, now the next morning, doll the original guy who had this encounter was visited by a man who was wearing all black and like an all black suit, and they went to a diner, obviously to be alone and to be safe. Like always, go to a diner, go somewhere public guys. Um, and he was just like they wanted to be able to talk about what happened. But the guy ended up telling him what happened in full detail, and so doll was probably like how the fuck you know that? Like where were you? Um, he told doll, while he was explaining everything to him, he said end quote. I'm gonna say quote loosely um, what I have a, what I have said, is proof to you that I know a great deal more about this experience than you will want to believe. Now, that was according to a book by gray barkers, and he wrote the book in 1956 and it was called they knew too much about flying saucers, which is a very specific title right it's very on the nose I don't know it doesn't anyway so it's almost unbelievable almost unbelievable like
Speaker 2:yes I don't know yeah, that's what I mean, like the nose. I mean the book is very much just like this thing you thought you saw, you did see, but no one's ever gonna believe you, like hello. So then doll was told by the guy like don't tell anybody about what happened or bad things will happen to you, like talk about an outright threat. He was like threatened. So obviously I'd probably be a little freaked out like what the fuck is happening in my life tell everybody I probably would too.
Speaker 2:I'd probably tweet about it, honestly, I probably y'all fuck this guy. I took a weird picture of him at at the diner.
Speaker 1:Listen what he said he's like 10 feet tall wearing all black laughing emoji.
Speaker 2:Laughing emoji, I would anyway. So this is kind of what started the conspiracy theory. Now the US government did come out and they just were just like no, it's a hoax, it's a hoax, like we're not acknowledging this, which, by saying it's a hoax, is kind of acknowledging it. But they did. They were like it's a hoax, it's wrong. Now Dahl and Chrisman Chrisman being his supervisor, who went out and was just like, oh, um, chrisman being his supervisor, who went out and was just like, oh fuck, yeah, that's a fine saucer still out there hanging around, who knows why. Um, they actually came out later, like years later, like after this book came out and everything, and they're like, yeah, okay, it's, it's kind of a hoax. We didn't really mean it, but if somebody had threatened me that way in 1947, we're I'm just gonna assume this, I don't know. They had very little sarcasm and like backtalk, probably in 1947, maybe, maybe they're the queen of backtalk, I don't know no, I doubt it they didn't take like they were.
Speaker 2:Just like you know what I was threatened, I'm not gonna say anything. They actually came out and said it was a hoax. They never said it and I just feel like I mean, if you were threatened by your government, would you like admit to any of that?
Speaker 1:obviously, you would say no no, like that was a hoax.
Speaker 2:So my opinion if you're scared about it. You're a different kind of man. But think about like them. They're probably like you know what? Fuck this. I want a quiet life. I'm gonna live my life.
Speaker 1:Please leave me alone okay, I guess I get that point I say it's a hoax but me personally, I'd fucking call all of them out. Like you, come to me and threaten me.
Speaker 2:Come to me like this the day of my daughter's wedding. Stop you would. I know what you mean, though I know I would expose everyone.
Speaker 1:Like, if you come to me and be like, hey, you're not, they're not going to say this, but basically, hey, I'm threatening you, don't fucking say anything. I'm just going to be like, all right bet, and I'm going to spill everything I have.
Speaker 2:The next time, if I ever threaten someone, I'll be like I'm threatening you right now then I'll be like all right bet, because I'll probably be the next person she threatens can you imagine like millennials, like in the 40s, but like we're gonna kill you and your whole family, and then just like a fucking millennial comes along and they're just like bet what?
Speaker 1:is this bet?
Speaker 2:like what kind of response is that? That's terrible. That's exactly what you're saying you would do, um, anyway, so that's what happened. So, um, basically, I guess the men in black were like bet, and the guys in the 40s were like no, fuck, no, we're not doing that and I don't blame them, like I wouldn't want to be threatened by the government either, like they will fuck your shit up, it doesn't matter. They're gonna say that you lied on your taxes.
Speaker 2:I almost said something, but I'm not going to do not because we'll talk about the government honestly, like the shit freaks me out, like I don't want to, like fuck probably they're not listening that's so good I'm possibly, I'm gonna say possibly I would be so grateful if they weren't why god? Damn it. No, he knows how freaked out I am by conspiracy she gets really weirded out so freaked out me on the other hand I just want the world to be happy. I'm like it's already out there.
Speaker 1:who? Who the fuck am I Like? Why would they take me serious? I would hope that, Especially on a drunk conspiracy. I know it's not like I have like a regular podcast where I'm just like, hey, I'm gonna fucking Don't Expose our government and all these other conspiracies. Yeah, no, I get drunk and talk about conspiracies. Yeah, no, for sure I feel like I'm like the lesser. If they were to go after somebody, I'd be the lesser one.
Speaker 2:Probably we're not ever snowed in here.
Speaker 1:No, we're not amazing with computers. Like we're not good at this. I don't even know how to whistle.
Speaker 2:Actually, both don't know how to whistle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we can't be whistleblowers.
Speaker 2:Our son whistles better than both of us. Oh my God he does. I don't even know where he learned that, because we can't whistle.
Speaker 1:We were talking about it one day. He was like two or three. He started whistling and we were talking about it. We were like I don't know how to whistle, and he was I don't either.
Speaker 2:Then we hear a whistle from the back seat and Sebastian is just whistling his little heart away.
Speaker 1:That's actually kind of creepy. It is that he worded it that way.
Speaker 2:No, we don't know how to whistle. So guess what? Guess who's not whistle blowing?
Speaker 1:Us, us Suck it Government.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't know shit. Fuck you Bush, stop it.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:God, why?
Speaker 1:Because you know I freak out Anyway, I'm very against him that was the.
Speaker 2:I'm going to just gloss over this. That was the first instance of the men in black.
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay. So do you want to jump into the next one?
Speaker 2:We should get a few on the table, because actually these get crazier, like the appearances get crazy and it's kind of like what is happening All right.
Speaker 1:So the next instance that we know of was recorded in 1967 in Toledo, ohio, which is only an hour and a half away from where we live. It is an hour and a half away from where we live. It is. Robert Richardson claims that he collided with a spacecraft and then, as soon as he collided with it, the spacecraft disappeared. After he told, after he collided with the spacecraft and it disappeared, he recovered a piece of metal from the accident that wasn't from his vehicle, so he believes it was from the spacecraft that with, weeks later he was visited by two men wearing all black and asked for the medal and he told them he didn't have it because he sent it out for testing, which?
Speaker 2:smart because, like I, would not, know who to send metal out to.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't either. But at the same time, if it was me and I collided with something that I clearly fucking saw, that I collided with, and then it just disappears. But I see like a piece of it sitting there, I'm taking it. I guess, and I'm gonna find out who I need to send it to.
Speaker 1:I mean I guess there's gotta be labs or scientists out there who receive unidentified items 67 like yeah, let me just call our old neighbor joe borger you gotta realize that we are so advanced in everything we have, like military wise and government wise, that even in 67 we were at least 10 plus years advanced In the technology that we had. That we actually knew we had. Well, the public knew we had.
Speaker 1:I guess, Even to this day. We're in 2020. Look at all the shit we have now. We don't even know what else we have. Now that the, the government and military know we have that are like 10, 20 plus years in advance, I don't know if I want to know. You probably don't want to know, but what I'm saying is back in 67, say it's even 10 years advanced. That's 77.
Speaker 2:Say it's even 10 years advanced.
Speaker 1:That's 77. Still not that we didn't have that best of technology and shit back in 77. No, I guess our parents were alive, yeah. But our military and our government are fucking years and years and years ahead of us in technology, fucking years and years and years ahead of us in technology that the basic human being like us actually know and realize I am a basic bitch. We're in 2020. Our government and military are probably in like 2030 with the advancements in the technology that's actually out there.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I'd be so stressed.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I'd be so stressed. I'm just saying I'd be so stressed.
Speaker 2:It's true, I can't.
Speaker 1:Because you've got to look at our warfare and our weaponry in our military. It's beyond advanced that we know about now. I'd be too freaked out.
Speaker 2:I can't be in covert things, guys. I'd freak out, I'd tweet about it and tell my BFF when I was drunk Like I can't.
Speaker 1:So back in 67, it wouldn't surprise me if there were people that we could send that piece of metal out to to have it tested to see where it came from.
Speaker 2:Because we've always had science that an average Joe would know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's an average Joe, but you could come up with. You could find someone who tests science in objects.
Speaker 2:I'm going to start testing science. I'm a freelancer tester Do it.
Speaker 1:Anyways, the men in black came to him, asked for the piece of metal. He told him he didn't have it, that he sent it out of, just have it. That he sent it out of, just have it tested. And two men in black actually threatened his life, saying if you want your wife to stay pretty as she is, then you will get the metal back they found out like what cut up his wife's face apparently which that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:I've never do but another thing is, I've never really understood how they'll threaten the people around you instead of just threatening you like you're the one that has the piece of metal, you're the one who knows the what happened, like wouldn't you rather just eliminate the fucking problem, as opposed to trying to silencing the problem by eliminating someone they love?
Speaker 2:well, it's like the self-care about they think is yeah, involved in people. They're like probably they're so egotistic that they would do that if they go after the people around you, you can't just be like, well, I'll just kill myself.
Speaker 1:Then they're like no, you gotta worry about the people around you, because we'll do this to them probably yeah, but if you're the one who actually knows what's going on or has the piece of metal, just fucking kill me instead of fucking killing my family, because but it's gonna make you stay quiet if they know it's not not me what do you mean?
Speaker 2:don't say that they, they're going to know exactly how. If it was me in this, situation.
Speaker 1:No, if it was me and I had this piece of metal and I sent it out for testing and they're like, hey, if you want your wife and kid to live, you'll get this metal back and then say I don't get it back in time and they kill you anyways. Do you think I'm just going to fucking hand them the medal?
Speaker 2:No, no, you're going to eat the medal.
Speaker 1:No. I'm going to expose every one of them. What do I have to lose at that point? But my whole point is why threaten your family when, if they're that worried about it getting out, just fucking kill the person who has the medal or knows what's going on?
Speaker 1:instead of threatening they're so egotistic that they'd be like hey, I'm gonna make you suffer and I'm gonna kill your family. Yeah, I'm like no, just fucking kill me and eliminate the whole fucking process. That's the thing, because if you kill my family, that's not gonna shut me up. What do I have to know?
Speaker 1:Scenario speaking, if I had this, if I had this object, and they're like hey're going to kill your wife if you don't get this back to me, and then they end up killing you anyways, if you're already dead. I'm not just going to be like oh, here's the medal, you're already dead. What do I have to lose besides my life, which should have been the first one you should be taking anyways, as opposed to my family? No, I'm going to expose those motherfuckers now. If they were like hey, if you don't give me this medal back, I'm gonna fucking kill you, then maybe I would think about it. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know. Just me thinking like threatening my family isn't gonna motivate me more to fucking give into your demands you're very stubborn I am.
Speaker 2:I'm not that stubborn people you are, but like the some people like the minute you hear you're like stubborn I am I'm not that stubborn people you are, but like the some people I am, so many you hear you're like no, my family, I've got to save them. Suddenly your family's british. But seriously, like that's what happened. Like most people be like no, not my family I guess I I I get your point yeah, that's all I'm saying I get no.
Speaker 1:I guess now that I'm married and have a kid.
Speaker 2:He's like the stubborn guy. If they had shot him he'd be like Hit your mom.
Speaker 1:I'd still try to fucking fight you he would. So if you try to shoot me and kill me, you better fucking go for a dead shot.
Speaker 2:He would just Make the lamest jokes on his deathbed in that moment.
Speaker 1:It would not be great and then kill you as I'm dying I don't know if you would do that. You'd probably be severely injured no, my inner john wick would come out, because he's a badass you see like he's so stubborn that he won't even die.
Speaker 2:He's gonna take out a few of you with him oh, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I know I admit that I'm that stubborn to to realize if, like you, shoot me and I'm still somewhat alive and I don't die right away, you better believe I'm fucking trying my best to take anyone out with me or just talk shit.
Speaker 2:He just talks a lot of shit. We both talk a lot of shit. We both talk a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:Until you put the kill shot in me. Yeah, anyways, but no, yeah. So they asked for the medal back. He said he didn't have it. They threatened like if they didn't get him the medal back, that yeah, they were going to make his wife unattractive. I'm pretty sure if he was a good husband he'd still love his wife. He still would probably so I don't know, it's a little fucked up um that's kind of rude it is that's very rude, but did he stay quiet?
Speaker 2:well, obviously not, if this got out if this report got out like he did not stay quiet, he was like they're threatening me they're threatening my wife's looks it's the 40s.
Speaker 1:I've only married a lot of the research I've done. I feel like the men in black just come out talking shit right off the bat and then they just disappear from the situation.
Speaker 2:I've never I know all the the research I've done yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:They just try to put fear in you and then, if you don't fucking play into their fear, they're just like well, we tried.
Speaker 2:Better luck next time maybe because you sound so crazy that people are like that's a town nut I don't give a fuck you may not, but these people might have, maybe, probably might have really cared because?
Speaker 1:so we who wants to be the weird person on the block, yeah, but the more stories you have come out about these yeah, they had, they had a lot actually, yeah, so like, if you think about it, like how crazy can they make you sound if you have multiple people coming out reporting these and that these men in black came and threatened them and then never followed up on their threat? Who's the crazy one in that situation?
Speaker 2:Can you imagine just pointing that out to somebody like you're the crazy one. You're the one doing this right now. You're crazy right can you imagine?
Speaker 1:like no one's gonna believe you saw ufo. I'm like bitch. Half the fucking population believes this shit. I think I mean I don't know I'd have a little good number. Honestly, we got, we got all the numbers for that, but I mean aliens.
Speaker 2:We can't know. I'd have to look at numbers. Honestly, we gotta look at numbers for that, but I mean Aliens.
Speaker 1:We can't be the only fucking life form out there. I'm throwing that out. I know this isn't an alien episode. It's kind of alien Kind of and I've already done aliens, but there is no way, shape or form that we are the only life form out there on earth. Well, on earth maybe, but out of all, like the fucking whole galaxy. The galaxy is fucking huge very large the space is phenomenally huge. There is no way I believe a hundred percent that we can be the only life form out there.
Speaker 1:There's no way there's no way, it can't be possible it can't be. I mean you can't, as, especially as a scientist, you can be like oh yeah, earth's the only life form out there it's only you guys, we have like 80 fucking thousand planets, but you guys are the only ones that have life on there it's like my dad I don't believe it.
Speaker 2:He's like it's very arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent life.
Speaker 1:I agree with your dad 100%. It is very arrogant.
Speaker 2:I don't know how much my dad believes in aliens, but all I knew I'll ask him Is that one time?
Speaker 1:I'll message him right now?
Speaker 2:No, stop it, he's sleeping. David At one point he was like how arrogant is it to think that we would be the only ones? I mean it is arrogant.
Speaker 1:It's very arrogant.
Speaker 2:We're the best, we're the smartest.
Speaker 1:Well, we are the best USA All the way. Earth, Yay, Earth, USA. Well, there's so many other countries on Earth too, but sorry, we live in America, so I love all my foreign listeners too, though. So just throwing that out there, I'm not even going there about America right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, America's fucked up right now.
Speaker 1:We're not going to talk about it, like probably the majority of these countries. If I even have other country listeners, I think I do like a few your country's probably way better than ours right now.
Speaker 2:Guys, we can do better. Anyway, let's just get off of that, because I can't. I will be on a tangent. Let's not anyways.
Speaker 1:So the next, the next uh report we'll talk about is in 19. A year later, in 1968, in new jersey, jake robinson, a ufo researcher, and his wife mary were terrorized by a men in black. So I guess jack, who was a ufo researcher, had information on I'm assuming ufos, since that's what he researched that guy sounds like a dick the the researcher no oh, the men in black yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:The way you said that though made it sound like the Jack Robinson guy was a dick. I'm getting that now, yes, yeah, I was like, what did he do?
Speaker 2:No, honestly, like I'm sorry, I just get mad at these people who are trying to intimidate people.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, I'm sorry. Anyways, so they claimed that they were terrorized by a Men in Black, claims that their house was ransacked. After seeing this Men in Black just like watching them from like their windows and shit like that they said he was just like posted up across the street, just like watching them and all their movements. But after seeing this guy, like staying there watching, watching them three times that their house was ransacked. And um so, after that they, uh, they told one of their friends, timothy green, beckley, I believe, beckley buckley buckley, timothyley Buckley.
Speaker 1:Buckley, uh, that this was happening, and so their friend took a camera and actually took a picture of the man, and there's actually a picture out there.
Speaker 1:Um, we're an audio podcast as of the moment, so I can't it's not like I can post the picture, but if if you, if you look it up, you'll see that you'll see a picture of a abnormally tall man and dressed in black in a suit, just like staring across the the way. Um, could it? I mean, it's hard to say if it's actually this man looking at these people, but so they say, is it? It's a picture of this man just like watching this uh, jake or jack robinson and his wife mary. So there is a picture out there that you can actually look up and, um, if you believe it, it's kind of. It's kind of creepy that this this guy's just like standing there watching, uh, this guy and his family, um, super fucked up. But there's a, there's a few uh pictures and there's actually one video of these two guys. Well, I'm jumping ahead, aren't I?
Speaker 2:Are you? Because I saw that picture and it was weird.
Speaker 1:No, it's a video.
Speaker 2:You saw a video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm jumping ahead.
Speaker 2:A video of what. What year was that Jesus? I don't know what the year Look honestly, I did see a picture of someone just like standing across the street, being like fucking weird.
Speaker 1:That's the one we're just talking about.
Speaker 2:Okay, look, that's weird to mutter if you have a video picture Like who the fuck is doing that.
Speaker 1:He's men in black.
Speaker 2:I'd be disturbed. I'd be like no, like I can't. Honestly, we live across the street from a funeral home. If anything other than like weirdness happened and someone was just standing there, I'd be fucking like no, the funeral home is weird enough, get the fuck out of here. Like I can't, I just can't with that. Like you gotta deal with a funeral home. Like I have to like live across from it, but like and it's very sad some days when you see the people but like now I gotta deal with somebody standing there threatening me like ho, ho, you saw aliens, I'm here. Like no, get the fuck out. Like it's. No, I don't approve of this. I don't approve of stalking or intimidation.
Speaker 1:I just want to say that for the record it's uh it's definitely weird, but yeah, I don't think I wrote down the information about the video, but, uh, since since I've done it, we can talk about it real quick, let me just say there's a lot of stuff about this we were writing down, so much.
Speaker 2:Like there's like instance after instance and it's like over decades. I just after a while you're just like what the fuck else is happening with this?
Speaker 1:Right, but no, there was an instance. I forgot what the instance exactly was. I'm sure you could find it if you just google it and, uh, the video of it.
Speaker 2:but there's actually video, not a picture video, of two men walking through these double set doors oh it looks like an apartment almost it's like a hotel, yeah something, and they were going to fucking threaten someone like they do.
Speaker 1:It's like a hotel, yeah something and they were going to fucking threaten someone like they do it's like casually but if you look at these guys, you can easily tell that they're they're over six, five they're abnormally tall like. So they were tall. They looked alike with like their uh, there's like skin tone. They were both wearing hats, so it's hard to tell if they were bald, you could tell.
Speaker 2:They were bald, though you could tell they were bald if you look at the video, because there's no hair sticks to get out.
Speaker 1:But they resembled each other a lot. They did, oh my God, and for the reports to come out that that happened. After the reports, they went back to look at the video footage to see if these two, actually men, actually entered this place and you actually see two like six, five plus.
Speaker 1:I don't know how tall they were, because you, you could tell they're fucking tall in the video that they came in to the building resembling each other, resembling all these theories of what the men in black look like. They look like from all the reports of what men in black look like, they fit it to a T.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's very mysterious, like I'm just a businessman.
Speaker 1:I'm wearing a dark suit but I'm hugely tall and weird looking yeah because if it was me walking by these two big ass giants who look alike in suits, I don't know about you but me I'm going to be like who the fuck are these guys Like? I'm going to have questions because you don't see that every day. Now, if they were like fucking my height five nine, wearing suits, just walking through fucking doors of a hotel or an apartment complex, I'm I'm not going to question it.
Speaker 2:I probably would not question it I probably like maybe a pimp, yeah I think maybe they're up to shady shit.
Speaker 1:I don't, but you get these fucking two almost identical looking guys who are? Fucking 6'5 and over who just look fucking weird. I'm gonna have questions.
Speaker 2:I did hear, did they look weird in their reports? Like they were like weird looking, so did they.
Speaker 1:I actually have in their reports like they were like weird looking. So did they. I actually have in my notes, like what, what the men in black actually look like okay, he's gonna have to explain that because, honestly, we do not compare.
Speaker 2:No, no we don't we do our own thing?
Speaker 1:yes, but do you want me to jump into another instance? Real quick.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, please.
Speaker 1:So, september 11th of 1976, dr Herbert Hopkins was studying a UFO incident when he got a phone call from a man who represented himself as a New Jersey UFO organization. As a New Jersey UFO organization, so this guy called this guy, this Robert who was studying UFOs, and said, hey, I'm with the New Jersey UFO organization. And then he asked if he could come visit him and talk to him. Then he asked if he could like come visit him and talk to him. Robert said yes, of course, and as soon as robert hung up the phone, this man was walking up his stairs to his porch ew god, yeah.
Speaker 2:So so one like if I get a, phone call.
Speaker 1:Like I do this podcast say I get a phone call. Like I do this podcast Say I get a phone call from someone being like hey, I heard your latest episode. I'd like to talk to you about some things.
Speaker 2:Yo guess what Disclaimer? We would not open the door, Probably not.
Speaker 1:No. And then they and I was just like all right, sure, yeah, we can set that up. And then as soon as we hang up the phone, you're fucking walking up my porch.
Speaker 1:No like at that point in time it's like get the fuck off my porch, yeah at that point in time you gotta know that something's up and I just I don't know. It's weird. I wouldn't open the door for him, but no, no. And then the guy actually explained what the guy who walked up on his porch looked like. So, according to herbert hopkins, the man who appeared on his his porch right after hanging up the phone with him was wearing a neatly tailored black suit. He was bald, with no eyelids or eyebrows. What the fuck? Yeah, smooth, dead white plastic skin, like a doll, as Herbert put it. His lips were ruby red and his speech was expressionless and monotone, as if he were listening to a machine speak.
Speaker 2:Ugh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, like, look like immediately. I'd be like please leave, like I'm not inviting that into my house.
Speaker 1:No, I'd definitely be like get the fuck off my porch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, Kick rocks Like if someone came up talking to me like a fucking robot. Basically, I'd be like something's fucked up with you like a fucking robot, basically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd be like something's fucked up with you.
Speaker 2:You'd be like you're a weirdo.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not coming to my house.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:No, what the fuck. What year was that?
Speaker 1:That was in 76. September 11th of 1976.
Speaker 2:God damn it. I hate that year Anyway, so I do just want to back-put on that. I did hear that somebody asked for 55, and his name was Dr Albert K Bender and he had founded the International Flying Saucer Bureau.
Speaker 2:It was like a thing, like a newsletter he was doing whatever nice and um, he was about to unveil papers that proved that the us government had covered ufo proof and he was gonna do it to like a space review or whatever, and he got visited by these guys who were just basically like, like don't do it, you don't want to do it, blah, blah. They threatened him. He was so scared he didn't speak about it for decades and or he was finally probably I mean, on your deathbed. You're gonna be like, guess what?
Speaker 2:this is what happened, sorry I'd probably say it on my bed the next day I'd probably tweet about it like in an hour, like legitimately, guys, like it's not that I can't keep a secret, it's just like if it's good, goss.
Speaker 1:Um, I'm telling you the goss like if I trust you, especially if they're threatening my life, I'm like I'm getting it out there before I die oh for sure, like do not fucking threaten me.
Speaker 2:Like actually, please don't threaten me, I don't like it. It was like horror, I got a son, like I can't threaten you, you're fine, oh god, I just guys legitimately, just can tell you that, like I she freaks out about I freak out, I freak out, I.
Speaker 1:Even just having a conversation about it.
Speaker 2:In her own home. She's like they're listening.
Speaker 1:Which they may be, they probably are.
Speaker 2:But I don't give a fuck, even before I have a child.
Speaker 1:We are so low on the totem pole of threatening being threats to them.
Speaker 2:I'm so thankful for that. They're not going to come after us. I'm so thankful I have a child. I have a child. I have a mediocre drunk conspiracy podcast.
Speaker 2:It's not mediocre, but at the same time, like right now, it's mediocre. These people have tiny little in encounters and they're being threatened, and that's what frightens me. It's like you're so afraid of something so tiny, of somebody so ordinary that you, you would you want to threaten them, and that's what scares me is these people had ordinary lives, they were normal people, blah, blah, blah. And then they had these encounters with these terrifying people that they were just like fuck that. How these people must have been horrifying must have been horrifying, and the way that these men in black have tended to look throughout the years, and it's like they were making themselves more terrifying, more robotic, more like whatever.
Speaker 1:Or they were just aliens.
Speaker 2:Or they were aliens. Yeah, honestly, that's a crime.
Speaker 1:I mean you're, you're impersonating the government. That's a crime. I mean you're, you're, you're. All these stories the government.
Speaker 2:That is a crime, so these aliens are automatic felons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean all these claims felons you have all these claims that are happening of like ufos and shit like that, it makes sense that they would actually be aliens coming to threaten you.
Speaker 2:I would also prefer that aliens not threaten me themselves like personally. That would be like me dressing up in like a weird different racial structure and just like threatening someone like could you fucking talk about that?
Speaker 1:Because I don't know, I'll get into my theory of what I think it really is at the end.
Speaker 2:Okay, how far are we from that?
Speaker 1:Not very far.
Speaker 2:I was like I need to know.
Speaker 1:How much more do you have?
Speaker 2:Um, that's one of the ones that I have. Here's the thing, like I can't find a more recent thing. That's one of the ones that I have. Here's the thing, like I can't find a more recent thing. But with the invention of social media and just cameras on hand, you have to adapt and I would feel like anybody threatening these people would adapt. They're like we can't just pop up out of nowhere, like they're going to always have a camera. You can't do that stuff anymore. Oh, that freaks me out. It does.
Speaker 1:It really does freak her out. It does. I'm more relaxed and don't give a fuck, but no, she freaks out I have a child. I do too. I can't, but I just know that I'm so low down on the totem pole that they're not going to give me fucking two looks.
Speaker 2:I should hope so. Please don't give us two looks. We're not doing anything. We're just trying to get drunk and talk about weird stuff Like please.
Speaker 1:But no, we'll get into our last thing before we get our final thoughts, thing before we get our final thoughts. But uh, my last thing is uh, back in january of 2002, which is one of the more recent ones in new york, a famous actor, dan akroyd. Everyone, everyone knows who dan akroyd is. If you, if you don't know who dan Aykroyd is, just by me saying his name, look him up and I guarantee you will know him.
Speaker 2:Fucking Blues Brothers Blues.
Speaker 1:Brothers Ghostbusters. It's the fucking movie with Macaulay Culkin in that girl.
Speaker 2:My Girl.
Speaker 1:My Girl.
Speaker 2:No, Blues Brothers is literally the best. I cannot even.
Speaker 1:Another movie. He did that. I love that. I know a lot of people don't, probably don't even know, it's called celtic, celtic pride fucking phenomenal movie.
Speaker 1:It's about boston, celtics and whatnot. Anyways, great movie. Anyways, he, he either. And back in 2002 he either pitched a tv series or had a tv series that was called out there about ufos, conspiracy theories, abductions, etc. Reports say that a large man dressed in black came out to them, came out, gave him like Dan Aykroyd saw this man. The man was giving him weird looks and shit like that. Dan Aykroyd was confused, like who is this man? Why is he looking at me like this? But later that day, or whatever, dan Aykroyd was told that they were going to be no longer making that series. What they were told that they. They were told that they were no longer going to be making that series.
Speaker 2:Was it about aliens?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was about UFOs, crop circles, abductions, alien abductions, all of that. And they say a large man stepped out and fucking just came forward and be like, hey, you guys are going to stop making this show. And so they did. They just stopped making the show, I guess, and it was to be canceled. So I don't know. I found that on the research. I actually kind of want to look more into that and see if I can find yeah, but for you to have this TV series about all this shit and then have a large man come and basically shut down your production when you don't know who the fuck he is and whatnot?
Speaker 2:I'm with the government.
Speaker 1:I doubt he would. No, we'll get into that. So yeah, he had a TV show. It was either canceled or never aired. I'll find out more. I kind of want to see if it aired. But he was basically told that the series was not going to be made anymore, or at all.
Speaker 2:And that was the end of it. How is that the end of it? It's never the end of it. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's just how the theories go, but anyways, final thoughts on this subject. Do you believe the men in black are like real people and I do? You believe that they are sent from our government, or do you think they are? They are aliens and they're the ones actually coming to tell us to knock this shit off if they are aliens, I would have to.
Speaker 2:I would have to. They would have permission from the government to like intimidate. Now the government, I feel like, likes to do their own intimidating. Why would they want to be like yeah, do do whatever you want? Well, look, no, I feel like the government likes to do their own intimidating.
Speaker 1:For sure I so I agree.
Speaker 2:why would they have a need to? I mean, obviously you wouldn't want anybody like getting in your business, but like wouldn't you I don't know like support them in their anything?
Speaker 1:maybe, but the way I see it I can't really speak of back in like the fucking 60s and 70s when a lot of these stories came out, but the way I see it nowadays is me personally. I I think they were aliens and not just fucking abnormally tall humans that the government sent like trying to protect their own yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:I think they actually were aliens. And what makes me think of that is especially nowadays is because, with the pandemic going on and COVID and all that shit, just recently the Pentagon released three videos of unidentified flying objects that the US Air Force came upon and that they saw while they were flying and they're like what the fuck is this? They couldn't explain it, they didn't know what it was. I feel like that's the sneaky way of our government trying to fucking put it out there and tell us that there are aliens, because when you straight up talk to them about it, they have no answers for you. But now, this way they can actually tell you be like oh well, we actually published it, so we have told you that there is something else out there.
Speaker 2:so that's the way I see it. Oh, I told you this truth like and now it's coming out weirdly.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, I can't speak for what happened back in the 60s and 70s, but me personally, I'd like to believe that the men in black in question here are actual aliens who were sent down to tell these people to fucking basically quit their shit and get rid of whatever evidence they have that would expose them, since, seeing how our government has no issue with releasing these videos, even though they're not it's not mainstream media that they're releasing them to. Well, I guess it kind of is, but with the pandemic going on and the riots and all this shit, there's so much it's it's gonna take a huge back seat to everything that's going on in the world right now.
Speaker 1:So I feel like this is just our government's way of being like oh, we did tell you guys, you just didn't fucking pay attention. Yeah, and it's not that we didn't pay attention, it's just we have bigger fucking issues at hand here, when me personally believe aliens have been here all along they have but that's my opinion on it.
Speaker 1:That's my take. Um, I think the men in black are real. I think these people are telling the truth. I'm sure some of them out there have exaggerated a lot of shit, probably uh, not all of it is true. I'm sure some of them have made up some shit. But seeing the seeing the photo that the the friend took of the people, of the guy watching their friend, it's kind of skeptical. But again, it is a photo. It could have just been a tall dude in a suit. But what really fucking gets me on it is the video of the two men walking Together. They fit the description to a T. They're both Fucking abnormally tall Like they're not even like Average height. They're freakishly tall and they match the descriptions to a T. That's what kind of really makes me think that this is a. This is a true conspiracy and that it's actually out there and they're among us.
Speaker 2:I think, probably I agree, like there's so much that probably we don't know that's out there that you just either shut your eyes to or you acknowledge that and you keep moving on and I just want you keep moving on, I just want to keep moving on, I don't care.
Speaker 1:Alright, yeah, so it freaks me out. It does freak her out. She's a sissy like that.
Speaker 2:I don't care I still love her, I don't care what anybody thinks you obviously do, though. No, I don't give a shit. Do not come to my house, you don't do anything.
Speaker 1:I don't give a shit like oh anyways, that is this episode of drunk conspiracies and the men in black. Uh, follow me on instagram. Uh, drunk conspiracy podcast. Uh, I just recently made a Facebook group for my podcast.
Speaker 2:Discuss the episode.
Speaker 1:I will. I put every new episode detail, upcoming details. I interact, I ask you guys questions, but it is Drunk Conspiracies Podcast Discussion group. Um, you can find the group easily. I've yeah, I've shared it. I've shared it on my personal page. My wife shared it. I even I took my mom's phone and I shared it on on her account. You know, just no, just trying to get that. She had no problem with it, just trying to get out there.
Speaker 2:But, um, he loves his mom. He would ask I do.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so like if. If I actually know you personally and we're friends on facebook, just go to my page, find it or just in the search on facebook. And if I don't know you personally, if I have followers out there who I don't know but they just subscribe to my podcast because it's a dope-ass podcast and I appreciate every one of you that. Do that. If there are some of you out there, just go to Facebook, type in Drunk Conspiracies Podcast Discussion Group. It should pop up. I also have a Drunk Conspiracies Facebook page. You can add that. That too, but I don't really do too much on that since I made the group I wouldn't know how, if y'all are as freaked out as I am.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all these things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, join the group, I'll I'll accept anyone, really. Uh, if I get a notification saying someone wants to join my discussion group, I'm gonna add you um, so he made this and I'm just like freaked out because it conspiracies. Freak me out like I don't want to be like but, I don't want to be a long episode, come on but no, I I do want to hear back from, uh, the people that follow this podcast, whether I know you personally or not, join the group, I'll add you.
Speaker 2:If you want to be on an episode, do it. He loves different opinions because, honestly, I'm very cautious about things I won't talk about.
Speaker 1:I do. I'm always looking for guests. There's so many conspiracies out there to cover and it scares me. So yeah, just reach out. Like I said, join the group, I'll add you. So yeah, just reach out. Like I said, join the group, I'll add you. If you have any questions or if you have any opinions on the episode or previous episodes or future episodes, just post to the group. I promise you I will always get back to you.
Speaker 2:I believe in responding to people. I respond to everybody actually. So if you message me, most likely no matter what you message me. I'm coming to kill you. I will get you smart as answer back. But if you yeah, add the group. Yeah, don't.
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Speaker 2:Guys, it's weird, Like it just feels weird. I don't want to be attacked.
Speaker 1:You're fine, no one's going to attack you. She's freaking out. Now. I'm going to have to hear it the rest of the night I'm going to be like ah, I'm going to have to hear it the rest of the night, I'm going to be like ah. Maybe we'll just go lay down in bed and she'll pass out.
Speaker 2:I am certainly hoping so because, guys, I have to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Like look.
Speaker 2:You're a fine babe. I don't want weird men showing up to my door.
Speaker 1:No one's going to show up to our door.
Speaker 2:I don't care, it freaks me out, guys. It freaks me out, guys, it freaks me out. So, if you like love this shit, if you want to talk about it, do it with justin, because, like, then I I'll do it with him.
Speaker 1:And then I'm just like for hours, days afterwards I'm just like, oh, they're gonna find me yes, and if you are thinking about wanting to join me on a show, I always let my guests pick the conspiracy he does just so I know it's something that you would be interested in and uh yeah yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Uh, any conspiracy you come at me with, I will do my research. I know a lot. I know a lot of conspiracies already, so I mean I always do my research anyways, but if it's one I don't know, I like those even better because it teaches me and brings light to me of a new conspiracy that I don't know.
Speaker 2:He will write down all the notes he has Literally he hasn't.
Speaker 1:I do, I make pages and I make pages of notes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he does Pages. We, honestly, when we sit down together, we do it separately. We write down whatever we have. If it converges it doesn't, but that's good usually when it doesn't, because he always has a fun fact and I'm just like that's awesome. Please, nobody kill me.
Speaker 1:No one's going to kill you, god, anyway. Anyways, all right, we're going to end this. So, yes, please follow me on Instagram. Drunk Conspiracy Podcast Facebook group. Drunk Conspiracy Podcast discussion group. If you feel like you want to add my personal account, no big deal, but if you add my personal account, add my group too, just so I know that you're legit, because there's a lot of fucking fakes out there that I've been getting messages from and friend requests from, so.
Speaker 1:but yeah but yeah, on that note, and if you want to come on the show sometime, shoot me a message go on the show. Just go on the show. I'd love to have anyone. I love doing this. The difference of Legitimately I love doing this.
Speaker 2:The difference of opinions is so amazing. I love it. Yes.
Speaker 1:So, yes, Thank you for listening For my returning subscribers. Thank you very much. Keep looking out. I have a couple more episodes coming that I have planned out. I have a couple more episodes coming that I have planned out. Thank you to my beautiful wife for coming on this episode, for doing your third show with me. Yeah, it freaks me out it does freak her out, but she's fine.
Speaker 2:I'm okay right now. I just I want everyone to be aware. Oh God, just I can't, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:All right, thank you. This is another episode of drunk conspiracies podcast with justin diachmont. Um, this is men in black and still very freaked out wife. I'm sorry I, I feel like we we gave you a couple good, good topping topic points. So, uh, if you want to do your own research, do your own research. If you come up with anything that we did not find or cover because there was stuff that we found but didn't cover Please say it.
Speaker 1:In the podcast group discussion. Comment on it. Bring it up. I'd love to talk to you about it. Hopefully I have some future guests out there listening and uh, yeah, so so thank you, it's a good episode I hope so I believe it is I'm like freaked out, but y'all do you she'll be fine. Uh, thank you again and have a good night. Bye.