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169. Jerusalem through Sister Louve Cooper's Eyes: A Divine Journey

November 27, 2023 Nicson Silvanie & Adnie Gaudin
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Have you ever wondered about the spiritual essence of Jerusalem? Well, you're in for a treat as we journey through the Holy Land with the resilient and inspiring Sister Love Cooper. An ardent believer, Sister Cooper's dedication to her faith is reflected in her recent pilgrimage to Jerusalem, a journey she embarked upon despite financial hurdles. Join us as she candidly shares her preparation, fundraising efforts, and ultimate realization of her dream to walk the sacred path in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1:

Jesus walking the Via della Rosa and then he has this cross on his back. So while he, our tour guide, is talking to us, he's now telling us the walk of this is the first walk and this is how he was walking and how he stumbled. And then First walk, how he just stopped and then his handprint was just right there in a while. So I'm looking at the wall and then I put my handprint with Jesus Handprint and I'm literally touching the handprint of what Jesus actually failed, like his handprint was still there, y'all, his handprint was still in that while.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the call by God podcast with Adne Godin and myself, nixon Sylvain. This show is about dialogues of biblical characters and testimonies of Christians who submitted to the will of God. Each week we bring on one guest so that they can share their story how they were called by God. I hope this show inspires you. Enjoy, hello and welcome world to the call by God podcast. I'm yours truly, brother, nick, and I'm here with sister Adne Godin. Sister Go, then, how are you doing on his blessed day?

Speaker 3:

I am wonderful brother, nick, I cannot complain, I'm just super, super, super excited.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, how was your day?

Speaker 3:

It was pretty good. Like I said it, it was a really busy day, which is which is always good, because my day goes by fast, but, um, I Honestly, like I said, I cannot complain at all. How was your day?

Speaker 2:

Oh, my day was busy, very productive, you know. But, um, god is good. You know what they? What's that saying? You know, any day above ground is definitely a blessing. It's a blessing, I mean, it's a blessing for me to be with the Lord, but it's also a blessing to be still be here, to be doing the work of the Lord. So I'm thankful at me. I'm just feeling blessed, but I'm super excited at him. I'm just we're just gonna just dive in into this episode. You know we have a special guest and whenever we have a special guest I just get excited, you know, I guess sometimes. But this guest is not a stranger at she's not stranger to this platform. She's been here before. She's been on episode oh, 100, 153 and 155, it's called. The episode is called, but God, part one and part two. So if you haven't heard her, her name is Sister love Cooper. Sister love Cooper, welcome to the call by God podcast. How are you doing on this blessed day?

Speaker 1:

I'm doing well. Thanks for asking.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you something about sister Cooper. Sister Cooper, she's a powerful woman of God. You know Again, if y'all heard her test, the testimony, her story and I'm gonna say it again, episode 153 and 155. But I'm gonna tell you what's so special about what she's about to share.

Speaker 2:

Sister love Cooper is about to take us on a field trip yes, I said it, on a spiritual field trip. So Addy and I gonna sit back and we're gonna relax I don't have any popcorn and I don't know if you do but sister Cooper is gonna take us on a spiritual field trip to Jerusalem. Sister Cooper has recently been to Jerusalem and I haven't had you and I had never been to Jerusalem, but hopefully that's on our bucket list, hopefully that somebody out there could sponsor this podcast so we could go Jerusalem. I thought I just had that in there, but we're just gonna dive right into it, cuz I just can't wait to hear Her story, her testimony, her trip to Jerusalem. So, sister Cooper, first we want to begin. How did all this trip come about? We want to talk about the preparation phase. How did? Did you just wake up one morning, or wake up one day, said I'm gonna Jerusalem, walk us through and our listeners about your preparation.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So my preparation of Jerusalem. I had actually just placed membership at a another church where I had came from, and so the talk was about Jerusalem and so they had like the leadership, so the leaders rather was taking a trip to Jerusalem and I kind of overheard the talk. So I was like Jerusalem, I said oh wait, I want to go to Jerusalem. So, like I say, it was a reason for the leaders, well, for the leaders at the church. But then I asked about it and they say anybody can come on the trip. So I'm like, okay, so you know, we made joke about like how long does it take, how much gas do we take to get to Jerusalem? Or like how long does it take to drive to Jerusalem? So yeah, like little funny marks or whatever. So I End up asking my pastor about it past the trip here and I was like, okay, so what I need to do to go to Jerusalem. He's like I'm going to Jerusalem. I say yes, I'm going to Jerusalem. Like it was like in my mind. My mind was saying like, oh yeah, I'm going to Jerusalem. So he had me to contact doctor Jackson, thomas Jackson, and I spoke with him and we got to like that tenor area. I'm not that tenor area but got the, the application and everything. So in my mind I'm like I'm going to Jerusalem. Like I'm going to Jerusalem. I didn't know how I was going, I didn't have the funds to go, but in my mind I said I was going. So the deposit at this time was $500 to Secure the spot. Well, I did have $500 at that time to secure my spot, so I put up my $500. So this is like in May. So the deadline for the trip was like November the 20th. So November the 20th, the other $4,000 had to be paid. So, my dude, this was a $4,500 trip. So I had on paid the $500. And then so May, june, july, august, september, March, october, and that's been down to the needy grid and I have not paid my $4,000. So like, oh, my goodness. But in my mind still, I say I'm going to Jerusalem. I don't know how, but I'm going. So it was.

Speaker 1:

It got down to like I said, the date was like November the 20th, which was like the deadline. I think it was somewhere around that time. And so they started calling me and I was like well, you know, you got to make a payment and the payments do and Time is one day today's, tomorrow's the deadline. So I start kind of voodoo phone calls because I'm like I don't have $4,000. So they keep on constant. I kept on hitting the bullet, I kept on hitting reject, but that just when I answer they call because I knew I didn't have the money to do it over the phone and I knew that's what they was calling me for. Was they paid me over the phone. So Then that's not. So I kind of played it down a little bit. I'm like I'm calling next day. So they got me like I missed the phone cause I can see like what's going on.

Speaker 1:

But Thomas Jackson, you know, call me that night like Cover, you got to make the payment for tomorrow, can you do anything? I'm like I Said I don't know what I'm gonna do. I said but I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get it. I'm just kept on telling I'm getting that magic. It's pressure on me tonight before to come over $4,000, no job, no money, and trying to figure out how I'm gonna come over $4,000 in less than maybe about eight hours. So I was like okay, I said well, can't y'all like give me to like at least eight o'clock, nine o'clock tomorrow, just give me to nine o'clock tomorrow. And so he was like, well, tomorrow's the deadline for the trip, so of course I wouldn't have lost my $500. So, my god, my daddy end up sending a room in B Bush the next morning, I end up having $4,000.

Speaker 1:

So I was so Grateful but in my mind, like I said, it was just no doubt in my mind that I was not going cuz I just had my mind set that I'm going and I know that God just knew my heart. Was she just saying she going, she gotta go cuz? It was like nothing was nothing was stopping, it wasn't a doctor said, well, maybe I want to be able to go, y'all cuz I could. I could have told Jackson like, well, I might not be, it was no doubt, it was none. No, no, no, just give me, just give me some more time. That's what I was telling. Just give me some more time. But yes, they ran me in, bush came through and I'm grateful to God I was able to make their $4,000 payment and, yeah, I was in the room.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's, that's a blessing. You know when, when you're sharing that, it brought me back to some of the experiences that I Experience along the way, especially like when I was a kid. You know, as kids See, my parents was poor, we couldn't go to Disney World, but we saw all the other kids that have money. They used to go to Disney World every summer and come back, yeah, you know what the Disney World. And they, they said, you know, go to school. They used to talk about Disney World and I'm like man, I want to go to Disney World one day. And then when I went there, I just like lost my mind. I was like, wow, I'm in Disney World. And then. So even just you sharing that you know Things that we read in the Bible or even things that we see in the TV. It's one thing to read it, us to see it, but it's it's another to actually be there present. And that's why I've mentioned on the top of the show, you're gonna take us on a spiritual journey. So, yes, we're gonna be talking about Jericho, we'll be talking about Jesus, bethlehem, nazareth, jordan rivers, the Sea of Galilee, the Gardener, kissimmee, the path to the cross and also the Garden Tomb. So we're gonna methodically Walk through this journey together, but you're gonna be sharing your experience. So first we're gonna talk about Jericho, but before we talk about your experience in Jericho, let me just read a brief summary about Jericho. So Joshua is the leader at this time in Jericho.

Speaker 2:

Jericho is mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible and it is first found in the book of Joshua. What happened? Joshua being a new leader as Moses passed on the baton to carry his new leadership role, something special happened. Something special happened in the midst of Jericho and I'm not gonna go too far in the detail into it. All I want the people to know is that Joshua is the new leader and Joshua have new followers following him. Joshua was given an assignment to God to go to Jericho and you know the history. I want you to tell us about your experience and if you want to share a little bit of history, you could do that as well.

Speaker 1:

Well, yes, um, standing over in Jericho was very profound, I must say, because I could say I was literally standing in Jericho, like I was right there in Jericho.

Speaker 1:

So I'm often telling people about faith, the faith the size of a mustard seed, and I'm often, you know, encouraging people Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there and then to connect its Jericho like it was that faith moment, like I'm actually standing over, looking over Jericho. So not only am I can, not only am I using my own mustard seed, faith, I'm actually connecting with it right now because I've never seen it, but by faith I'm like I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna go. So just to be standing over over where Joshua hey command to tell the people to walk around this city that I am standing in, seven times for the walls to come falling down. So the first time, just knowing how they went, and they walked around it one time and then went back to where they laid their head and came back again the second time, and then the third time, and fourth time, and the fifth time, and then until the seventh time.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Come back to Jericho and for them to walk around seven times of Jericho and then when he makes the sound, when he give the command to shout, and then he walls on come coming down, like I walk around and walk around and then I shout and then some walls gonna fall down. That's got this faith right there. Yeah, who would say I'm gonna walk around and then, oh, we gonna shout and then the walls gonna come falling down, like who would, why and how? But it was the faith that they believe that if we do this and we walk around seven times and we shout, that now we get to hit, the walls come falling down and then they inherit all this. So I'm just standing overlooking it, the what happened back then. So that was just like it is.

Speaker 2:

It is profound because that's that's a historical landmark. So when you are actually there, so I. These are these are the things that I read in the Bible Joshua, chapter six, when the walls came falling down, as you mentioned, but just to see the power of God, because God at this point is where Israel. So just to see the power God, he gave them instructions what they need to do. Obviously, gave Joshua the instructions. Joshua gave the people instructions and for them to actually follow suit and do it, and just to see the hand of God, how the walls came falling down. Like you said, it was a degree of faith and even trusting in God and obeying God's ordinance. But I mean that's powerful to me. I would have been like a kid just looking at Jericho. I'd be like, wow, god, you did some powerful things here in the city. So I think you again for sharing it with us, because those of us that read the Bible and they know a little bit of history for you to actually be there, that's a different feeling.

Speaker 3:

Amen, amen. I'm gonna ask you to talk to us about Jesus and I'm gonna share a few thoughts and then you can share your experience. Jesus Christ is known by Jesus Christ, god, the Messiah, the Son of God, the Son of man, emmanuel, lamb of God, king of Kings, lord of Lords, savior, the Word, etc.

Speaker 2:

You were in the place where Jesus Christ walks. So I know you know like whenever you have a figure in a certain city or a certain state, you be like man, michael Jordan was here. I'm just using sports, for example. I like sports. Michael Jordan was here like this is where Michael Jordan, this is where he lived. So you were in a place where our Savior was. So I know the noise is still ringing even in that place to this day like do people actually view him as a carpenter or even Savior or both? Could you expound more on that?

Speaker 1:

It was more of the stone maesary. So that's how Jesus works. He worked like off the stone maesary. So just to know that you know, what we think over here is totally different over there. You know, you read the Bible. It's more of you have to know what you're reading, I mean know what you're reading before you even get in there, so that it can kind of all connect with each other. So you don't want to put Daniel at the burning bush, you don't want to put Moses in the ark, so you kind of want to know what it is once you actually get in there. So that's what I was.

Speaker 1:

I really, when I was there, I really wasn't connecting because I was just more of overwhelmed than what I was seeing. So the fact that I was more overwhelmed than what I was seeing, then it kind of said, okay, I got to be more into my Bible, more I got to know more. Okay, jesus was this one that was actually walking through, you know, miracles. Like you know, they actually hated on this person. They actually did everything. Like you know, what was it that he did wrong for y'all to dislike him so much? Or what was it that y'all he did wrong to make you hate him, but you know, just being in there, it was very, very, very, very, a very incredible moment amen.

Speaker 2:

I mean I, you know, I would have been overwhelmed as well, because and I thank you again for bringing clarity to me and even our listeners about the carpentry because we in the western world, when we think of carpentry, we think of it in a western way, we don't think about it how they do it over there in the east or in Jerusalem. So again, I thank you again for bringing clarity today. So we're moving forward, tiptoeing through your journey in Jerusalem. So now we're going to discuss Bethlehem. So in Bethlehem, in the Bible, in the book of Matthew, chapter 2, verse 1, it says now, when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the east came to Jerusalem saying so. That's in Matthew 2, 1. So you were in Bethlehem. Like I said, we're tiptoeing through your journey in Jerusalem. Can you tell our listeners just briefly about your experience in Bethlehem?

Speaker 1:

Bethlehem. Jesus came out of Bethlehem, so Bethlehem is known as the house of bread. At first I didn't, you know, I kind of got confused, like the house of bread house is the house of bread but Jesus is the house of the bread. So that's the foundation of Bethlehem and just you know, go in. You know we look at them.

Speaker 1:

I looked at the manger, where you think that he's in his barn with animals and you know people are surrounding, but it's actually a, it's actually inside of a. You know it was like it's not what we think of as a barn, that that's not the main. You know we do Christmas and we say Jesus was in the manger, but it wasn't that type of man where a born, you know, and just to be inside of there to you know, see, this is where he was, the star was actually born. And then over here he's not even three feet away where he's actually put in, you know, the manger. It was just mind-blowing, like it was just to actually be there and to see this is where the star was born in Bethlehem amen, that's.

Speaker 3:

That's powerful. Because when you think about the house of bread and Jesus says I am the bread of life, right, and if we go back to, I want to say it's in the Psalms where David is talking that you know. It's not the Psalms, oh Lord, have mercy. It's when God sends Samuel to anoint King David. Right, he sends him to Bethlehem.

Speaker 3:

So it's like it's like God is so strategic in everything that he is doing as far as our Lord and Savior, and for us to understand, like when we read the word, we need to start reading it through the eyes of Western men and start reading it through the eyes of those in the Middle East and stuff, because the lifestyle, the culture, the customs, everything are completely different. So as I, as I'm listening to you, you're actually bringing the word to life for me, because now it's like, oh okay, so Bethlehem, house of bread, jesus, bread of life, that's that's. You know that that's so powerful, really, really, truly profound. So let me take you now to Nazareth. I want you to discuss in Nazareth with us. And it says Matthew I'm gonna read Matthew 2, 23. And it says and he went and lived in this city called Nazareth, so that what was spoken by the prophets might be fulfilled, that he would be called a Nazarene.

Speaker 1:

Share your experience in Nazareth, okay so I'm in Nazareth looking over again all of this like land and just like, okay. So the first thing is what good can come out of Nazareth? And I'm just standing on the top, like you know, to know Jesus stood up there and you know speaking, and then you have it where you, actually, standing up, like it was, the site was so beautiful, it was more of like, hmm, me standing up there with Jesus up there. I was just like you know, in my own mind, cause I kinda like had like the wind blowing. I was just like in a moment up there, like it was, just like I was just looking out at the world, like just visually visualizing just to be standing there with Jesus and we just standing there. And I'm in Nazareth. I'm up here in Nazareth.

Speaker 2:

So, since the Cooper, do it look like the hood? Cause you know, like, you know, like they say, no good Nazareth Right, so do it look like the hood man.

Speaker 1:

It looked like nothing like the hood, it was just so pretty. The landscaping, it was just like OMG. But I do have several pictures though. Like, if anybody like go outside of this park and go to it, you can see, like it, the site is just a beautiful site to see and it's just meditation, you know, just a piece of mind. Like I said, I stood up there by myself for a moment and I just had my moment, like it was just a peaceful moment, like Jesus is right here, like he was there, like the whole. Like in certain times of it was like okay, jesus, you right here, you right here with me again. Like just to feel that spirit.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I'm glad you're sharing this, cause, even when you're sharing, it is like it makes me want to go, cause it's like this is where our savior was and then, like you said, you felt him like he was right there, so as though you could feel his presence because his earthly body was there and then that's where he was right, cause we know he was born in Bethlehem, he went to Egypt and he went to Nazareth and he was raised in Nazareth. So thank you for sharing your experience with us and the reason why we want you to share your experience because we want people out there to make that connection. Because, as you're sharing, like I said, it makes me want to like I'm out of here. I already got I recently got my passport, so probably got a lobby to get my passport for a reason.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to.

Speaker 2:

Jerusalem. So, moving forward, you know, you know, I know your trip. You had so many things that you could talk about your trip and I know we're just you're just taking us on a field trip and we're just tiptoeing through some of the landmarks you went to. So the next line item we want to talk about is the Jordan River. But before you talk about your experience of the Jordan River, so we know that there are several historical events that took place at the Jordan River the baptism of Jesus and also the healing of Naaman. So I think the more key one is the baptism of Jesus and, of course, a pivotal verse is Matthew, chapter three, verse 13. So you were at the river that our Savior got baptized. Please, please, please, please tell us, share your experience.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my goodness. So the water was cold, uh-huh. So, yes, walking into the place, it was like, okay, people were just, you know, it was like everybody on white, like you know, just like going in there. And then, you know, just looking around, so when I got ready to go in there, I'm like, okay, I'm going to get baptized in the Jordan River. So they're first hit the process in my brain, like I'm actually going to go down. So when I got off in there and I can see the water was cold, and to just get emerged out in the water and then come up, like that moment was breathtaking, that moment was speechless. That was like, you know, when God said, um, in the heavens open and this is my son, who I am well, please like that feeling. I can't explain it, feeling inside, but it's like when I came up, it was just so fresh and so breathtaking and so renewed, like I got baptized in the Jordan River, the same river that Jesus got baptized in. Yeah, that was, that was a, that was a crisis moment.

Speaker 3:

Wow, I've seen people go to Jerusalem and get baptized in the Jordan River, and you're the only person I've ever heard explain it this way, like the, and I'm and I'm correlating it because of your belief and your relationship with the Lord. So for you, it's not just a baptism. This is like. This is where my Lord and Savior stood, and John the Baptist says to him I need to be baptized of you. And you come to me and he said let it be. And he said let me baptize you.

Speaker 3:

So you just shared a completely different experience than most people have had. Right, and I think that's the most powerful part is that the relationship that we have with our Lord and Savior makes a difference. When we do take that trip Because I'm speaking it into existence I will be going to Israel. Right, I have that experience because I definitely want to do the baptism at the Jordan River and I'm and I'm also playing it in my mind like why Naaman had an issue with dipping seven times Because to him it was like it was muddy water. But that's not what you said. You're like it was cold, it was, it just was a fresh, fresh thing. So I really appreciate you giving us a completely different visual of being baptized in the Jordan River.

Speaker 1:

Yes, because, like I said, I've been baptized, I've been baptized before and that was just a different. That was a different feeling, you know. Because it's like why are you going to get baptized? You already got baptized before, so why don't you do it again? Because that's a totally different to me. In my mind now that's just a totally different baptism, because, number one, I'm getting baptized with. Jesus got baptized there. That's number one. And then number two, just to experience this whole Jordan River, to be standing in this Jordan River with the water. It's like is the water clear? Is it muddy? How was the water in there? Well, the water was again. It was cold, it was that. It wasn't like a crystal clear, like you know that really blue water. It wasn't that look, and I ain't gonna say it was the muddy water either, but it was that mixture of water. It wasn't the water that I'm looking at, the water. I ain't getting that water. That water is dirty. It wasn't that kind of. It was like okay.

Speaker 1:

I'll get this water and I can say go down and just come down back up and you're just going to love it. I'm just letting you know in advance because I heard you speaking it into. Existence and Manifestation is real, I am aware of it. So you know when you go down, because you're gonna go down in the water.

Speaker 1:

You're gonna speak to God, to the reason. It's gonna be mind blowing and mind changing, because one thing for certain and two things for sure whenever you go to Israel, you will not, your life will never be the same. You will not come back this time first. So this happened with me. We're in September now.

Speaker 1:

I have not been the same since you know, before I went to Jerusalem, I'm just a whole different person. You know people don't understand that and people don't see that because you know they haven't you know been there or just experienced it. So I can't explain. You know, you know, say you come back different, oh, you just changed. Oh, you know it's a life changing.

Speaker 1:

I'm telling you, you don't just go to, like, go to Disney World, and then you go, go to Disney World, and then you know you'll still be the same. Yeah, I went to Disney World. I wrote on his ride, I did this, this, this. But when you go there and the sign completely tells you when you get there, your life will not be the same.

Speaker 3:

Amen.

Speaker 1:

And it is so true and I think anybody that has been you know the people that I've been with and I'm sure the people that have been before me they can vouch for that.

Speaker 1:

But for me, speaking on it, your life will be the same. You'll be a totally like your mindset, like reading a Bible. It's totally different now reading a Bible because, just like I was sharing with Nick, now that I'm reading a Bible, I'm reading and I'm connecting with me being in the war, because I just literally read this the other night or last night, how John baptized him and then when he came out, then God said from heaven, open up the clouds of heaven and said this is my son. Now I'm saying me being in the Jordan River and then the clouds are now opening up. Like I'm saying the clouds opening up and I'm hearing Jesus saying, I'm hearing God saying this is my son, who I'm will please that you know. So I'm connecting with everything. So this is a lot.

Speaker 3:

It's so much more to that, so yeah the connection is not the same. Mercy. Wow, all right, let's go to the Sea of Galilee, mark 1.16,. Passing alongside the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew, the brother of Simon, passing a net into the sea, for they were fishermen. Tell us your experience on the Sea of Galilee or walking by the Sea of Galilee, okay so the Sea of Galilee, that was like I think that's what y'all passed.

Speaker 1:

It was on the boats. He was, he rocked the boat. That was was, uh, out there, he rocked it. No, oh, he, he, he, he spoke word, he spoke a word on this boat.

Speaker 1:

Just to be on the boat of the Sea of Galilee was again I keep using it seems to be a different word like speechless, because the whole thing was speechless, but just like mind blowing. I'm on this on the Sea of Galilee. Now, imagine, now this is what Peter is saying um, he's on this boat and you know, jesus is sleeping, and now he got to step outside of this boat and he got to walk with the water by faith, so just to know he is reaching out his hand and Jesus is walking across this water. And this is just my mind, how I'm on the boat and I'm recording and I'm just like, oh my goodness, like just seeing Jesus, you know, walking across the water. And then I just scratch my hands out and just, you know, just grab me and I just, you know, reach out and just walking on water and only by faith, you know I'm doing this, that was, that was, that was.

Speaker 1:

And then the listening to how the winds were blowing, and then we had this guy. He was singing what was the song? I think it was right now, but he was singing the song and he's sung it in their language, in a different language, and it was so beautiful, oh my God, it was so beautiful. And then it's just like you know, back to just having the faith of you know. They fishing all night, they fishing and nothing's being caught, nothing's being caught, nothing's being caught. And then you can say I'm going to make you a fisherman, fisherman, a man. And then you just catch your neck and then the whole neck is just like feel a fish. Oh yeah, that was like. That was the Sea of Galilee. That was another great experience. Yeah, that was just amazing.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that is amazing, Adanie, I'm, I'm, adanie, we, yeah, you're right, I'm going to have to figure a way out how to go to Jerusalem because we don't have a visual right now. And if you know, sister, and at the Teladis podcast, sister, we're going to share with you guys, where you can find all the visuals. But even just her sharing it verbally, I mean, I still feel there's a connection. I could feel the way she's explaining it and I'm like because I read the Bible, so when she's talking about the Sea of Galilee and all these other places, I'm making that connection and, man, it makes me just want to be there, like like today, like today.

Speaker 2:

But we're going to move forward to the Garden of Gassimi, but before you share your experience, so let me just say a few things. This is when Jesus Christ I would say what I was at he was at his lowest point and he was where Peter James and John. So in Matthew 26, chapter 26, verse 36, it said then Jesus went with them to a place called Gassimi and he said to his disciples, which is Peter, james and John, he said sit here while I go over there and pray. So he wanted them to. Well, actually, he wanted them to watch and pray, but Jesus Christ wanted to pray as well. So, based on that experience, or even this context that you know about Jesus, what he did while he was at Gassimi, share with us your experience.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so my experience in the Garden of Gassimi it was. It was very emotional and I'm going to share this with you guys. My daughter, she ended up getting sick while I was in Jerusalem and she has this disease ahead, the disease where it's called Ciclit Bumini, and I had got this phone call right before I ended up going to the Garden of Gassimi and it really bothered me because I'm like I'm so far away, there's nothing I can do, and she had these episodes where she vomits for like two, three days straight and it's just like a nonstop thing. So I got their phone call right before that and so my mind was just all over the place that morning, like I was sad, I was just like in the moment. But then when I got in there, garden of Gassimi, that was a whole different.

Speaker 1:

You know the preacher started praying with me. You know I just had my moment. I cried because this is the same place that Jesus was at, right before he had to go get crucified, and he knew he had to do it. He said, lord, let this cup pass over, like he didn't want to do that. He didn't want to do that. And just to know, I'm sitting here in pain because, you know, my daughter, she's away. I mean, she's so far away and I'm right here and there's nothing that I can do. And then I'm connecting with Jesus, like, okay, you want this cup to pass over, but you know, if not, but not my will, but not my will, let your will be done.

Speaker 1:

So I was able to wrap around that and to connect around it, like you know, being in that garden where Jesus actually was praying, like I'm sitting on the stool, sitting on the bench, just in a whole moment of prayer, like Jesus in me, just Jesus in me. And you know I was praying and just you know I'm praying for my daughter, just praying for you know the whole outcome and I felt so much of a burning that was lifted up off me in that garden and it's like Jesus is really in the garden, like everywhere I move. I'm telling you how it was like Jesus was with me, jesus was with me, wow, and when he moved, when he moved, I moved, just like that. So, yes, that garden of God, so many, that was like you know it was. It was a lot of tears there and this was just within my group. It was like tears shed, you know, because that was an intimate moment, just being in there that was.

Speaker 1:

it was so intimate. It wasn't nothing of. You know, I don't think I. It probably wasn't a dry face in there, I mean the preachers, everybody was emotional and it was just because it took me there Like, oh my God, jesus is about to go.

Speaker 1:

And you know he has to go to be crucified. But he and he know, you know he's been portrayed. But then, you know, but he was so humble to say, but not my will, he wasn't selfish about it. You know, not my will, but let your will be done and whatever your will is, father, I'm with that. So that was the, the touching moment that was. It was very touching. You know, it takes me back there now, just sitting here talking about it, because you know the trees and just you know we sitting in there and you know there's a sermon given about, you know how Jesus is about the night before, you know he's about to go get crucified. And then it just took us back there, like it was a story and we just sitting there and we listening and it's just so heartfelt and so touching, like, yeah, come through Jesus, come on, come on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is, it is. It is emotional Cause, even the way you explain it, like I'm getting emotional. And then I want people to make that connection. You know, although you experienced it firsthand because you was at Kissimmee so what Jesus Christ went through. I want all believers to experience that they don't have to necessarily go to Jerusalem.

Speaker 2:

The reality is that once we're in the body of Christ, we have to think about our Savior. We got to think about all the things that he went through for the sake of humanity. So when you're sharing this story about his experience at Kissimmee, I mean Jesus Christ was emotional, he was an agony, he was in pain and on top of that he had three individuals he thought, you know, had his back and they fell asleep. So when we, when we see the fallible nature of man, that they could even even watch and pray for their own Savior, and then Jesus Christ was pretty much on his own until the angels, the messengers, came down and ministered to him and, like how you alluded to, you said that he said, look, it's not my will, but let thy will be done.

Speaker 2:

So I make that connection. So when we go hard for God and we do the things that we do for God is because we remember what Jesus Christ did for us, and I want whoever's listening to this that they need to remember why they became a Christian. They need to remember why God wake them up every day. It's not solely just to work and just do the things. What I do, whatever you big and bad enough to do. No, you need to sit back and you need to remember what the Savior did for you and you need to do his will.

Speaker 3:

Amen, Amen. The path to the cross, the Via de la Ressau, the path that Jesus walked before his crucifixion. Events related to Via de la Rossa the Last Supper, Gatsimony Trial Before Pilate Mochoree Carrying the Cross and Crucifixion. Share with us your experience on the road to or on the Via de la Rossa.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So, if I can be transparent, I was on the Via de la Rossa and so my pastor pastor of the beard he said you know what we're walking on and I'm like you know, I know this, the path of you know with Jesus. And so he pointed to the sign. He said this is the Via de la Rossa. So I looked up, I said Via de la Rossa. He said that's what it's called Via de la Rossa. I didn't know it, you know. But when he told me that he connected and I was like so we on the path where Jesus actually walked, this walk and carry something, my mind this, yeah, my mind went. I'm glad he told me that. I'm so glad he told me because my mind went straight to imagining, visualizing Jesus walking the Via della Rosa and then he has this cross on his back. So while our tour guide is talking to us, he's now telling us the walk of this is the first walk and this is how he was walking and how he stumbled and then first walk, he just stopped and then his hand print was just right there in the wall. So I'm looking at the wall and then I put my hand print with Jesus hand print and I'm literally touching the hand print of what Jesus actually failed, like his hand prints were still there. Y'all His hand prints was still in that wall. That was so, so, so old. My goodness, that was so the chills. It was chills, like chills in my body to be able to touch the wall where he failed.

Speaker 1:

Then you know he's walking and he's knowing that. You know he's about to be crucified. And then he got his mom. You know it's like all these doors that he's stumbling and you know he's about to be crucified. And then his mom sitting here. You know she's witnessing what's going on and then you know it just took the lowest upper. It's to a whole another level. I don't even take the lowest up of the same number. Ever since I came back from Jerusalem, the lowest upper is totally different in my mind now. Like I sit there and I'm like just it takes me back to Jerusalem. Every time we're taking the lowest upper, because before I went to Jerusalem I was like the lowest upper. Right now I'm taking the lowest upper. This is one of the acts, this is what we're doing.

Speaker 1:

But once you connect to that, you can't take the lowest upper, the same number. You can't sit there and not reminisce or not take you back to where Jesus was walking and how he just, you know, had the cross on his back and he's just being beaten and he's just blood. Just like that, just like you know, I get emotional with it. I just get, you know, emotional and because, just to know that's what he did for me, little old me, he did that for little old me, just to walk this walk to your Delarosa to be headed, to be crucified, to hang on the cross, for a old, filthy rag like me.

Speaker 1:

Like that, if you just take it and you think about it like that, you, you start taking like different, like you start thinking about things differently, you'll start taking not taking things for granted, you will start, you know, reflecting on that and the fact, I guess, because I was there and you know where he was actually hung and the nails pierced in his hand and pierced it, like just to see that sight, like this is where Jesus hung, this is where he gave his life, like I said, just for a sinner like me, like that's right enough to get all fired up Like you know what. Thank you, daddy, I appreciate you. And then you know you can't, you crazy, you just don't know. You don't know that's on. You just don't know. When you hear me hollering and when you hear me clapping my hands and when you see me, you know, you probably think I'm over there just being out of care. I mean being, yeah, doing something like it. Like they say, you don't take all this. Oh yes, it does.

Speaker 3:

It does, it does.

Speaker 1:

It does Baby, it takes all that, and then something.

Speaker 2:

It does yeah.

Speaker 1:

You don't know my story.

Speaker 3:

You don't know what.

Speaker 1:

I witness and you don't know what I've been through, but I want you to see that through me, because that's what I use. Amen, god use that.

Speaker 3:

The thing that I'm listening to you as you're saying this is that so many of us take what Jesus did for granted, because even at the congregation where I currently attend, it's it's not. I haven't even gone to Jerusalem and the Lord's Supper is different for me, right, and I don't want to just sit there and they just read the scriptures and then we just take the Lord's Supper. It's like he says do this in remembrance of me.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

What are you remembering that he has done for you, for you to sit there? It's not just five acts, it is an intimate. You're sitting at a table. You've got to picture yourself sitting at the table and Jesus taking this bread, and he's blessing it and he's breaking it and he says take, eat, this is my body which is broken for you. And now you just said he's on the road, the Via de la Rosa, his body is broken, right, because he has just gotten beaten. We cannot just take the Lord's Supper like, oh you know, let me just eat this bread.

Speaker 3:

No, it is something so intimate, so personal, so he gave his life and it's like body and I have to say because just hit my heart we really need to understand why we're members of the body. Yes, absolutely, because what he did was big, what he did was grand, like there was darkness on this earth, like we just go to church just to. Even the singing is like are we really lifting up songs to our father? Are we just standing there just singing?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I always just count the. Yeah, because, see, he's not we, just there. He's not counting the people, he's counting the sacrifice, but it's the sacrifice that he's counting. It could be a church full of people, but he's counting sacrifice. What are you coming here for? Just like you say what are you coming here for? Are you just coming to say I came to church on Sunday morning, I did the 5X, I did the, I did my offering, I did my community. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is the sacrifice, and I learned that as well in Jerusalem. Like God don't count people, he counted sacrifice. So it could be two sacrifice among the 200 people there, it ain't but two people that don't count to sacrifice, and he knows that, god knows that. So it ain't the, the numbers, it's the sacrifice.

Speaker 1:

So just back to what you say, and like we take it for granted, like we come in, we come to church and we you know people play church. This is time out for playing church. We ain't playing church, it's time out. So we come, if we come, and we come in for unity. We come in to serve, like we're coming to uplift, we come into be because we all see when we get there. We all want coming to a hospital, so ain't no better than no better, because if this case you need to stay at home. If you, if you 100, you perfect you good, what you coming up here for, this is for the sick people. This is for people that's coming out, coming in and leaving out different, not to come in and leave after, come in the same and leave after saying that's not what it's for.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, back to what you said. This most definitely you got to. You know we take it for granted. We take it for granted. You know what we're, what we're doing, and until you just visualize and think about you know what you're doing it for what, why, what? What is the lowest up? Before, like, if you. And now they have started playing this video. In some church word they showed the video that really touches my heart, like I know Renna's undead after that was my first time doing seeing it. And then I know we do it some, we've done it before. And now it really takes me back to Drew, because before I don't think if I could have saw that video before, you know, to have what I have right now. Now, when I see that video doing communion. It's like, you know, it's not to be sad, it's not to be sad at all, but it's just to know this is what Jesus did for me, this is the, this is what he sacrificed for me. So, in least, the least I could do, the least I could do.

Speaker 2:

So, speaking of Christ, so we know that there's a lot of different religions and Jesus Christ was the only God that actually was raised from the dead. We know he went through death bearer and he was resurrected. So we want to talk about the garden tomb. So I do have a reference scripture found in Mark, chapter 15, verse 46. It says and Joseph brought a linen, a Shrod, and, taking him down, wrapped him in the linen shrod and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock and he rolled the stone against the entrance of the tomb. So I know you had your experience in a garden tomb when our savior was laid. Could you share your experience about the garden tomb?

Speaker 1:

So the garden tomb, first of all, the rock inside of the rock, number one, the rock inside of the rock. Come on that, because Jesus is the rock of the world. So the fact that you know they put them there and so walk up and just walk inside of there, that's whom, look up against the walls and just see that he is not there anymore. Like I got sad. I think he ain't that no more. Yeah, he has risen. Yeah, these are my women's day. Jesus was not in a tomb, he is not there. He has risen and he, he, he's now. You know he's not there anymore.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, man, yeah, yeah, I hear that one Sunday.

Speaker 1:

Oh, let me give my vocal back, jesus rose, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but listen, we're about to wrap these up and again, again. We want to thank you so much for shares to your experience that, although we didn't have a visual, we don't have a visual right now I mean every word that came out of your mind. I felt it in the spirit. So if anybody's connected with God and they have the Holy Spirit, sometimes they don't need to see. It's by faith. I felt what you felt and the ad new felt the same thing. So, anything you want to share with our listeners.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, yeah, I do have a blog. If you want to go back to my blog to actually I did a documentary on this. I might didn't catch. I mean, yeah, I didn't get to say everything because you know I was. I was gone for like two weeks but people thought I was gone for that for about two months or so.

Speaker 1:

You go back to Daily dose of love. This daily dose of love, hello you be. It's my blog every, every morning. It's it's an encouragement block. I don't know what people go through. I just allow God to use me to be a blessing to others and it might not be a dose for you, but it can be a dose for someone else and you could just spread the love. Also, you can find it on Instagram as well. It's daily dose of love. Same thing. It's an encouraging blog. Never know what people going through, but hey, could be something that could encourage you. Also, you can find on Facebook. I did say that my daughter. She has a book out is called Brookman's beautiful bubbles as well. She just wrote her. She's an author of her first book. She's eight years old. Um, you can find that on Amazon also. My email address is love Cooper at Yahoocom again this L? O you be Cooper at Yahoocom.

Speaker 2:

Amen, amen. So also what I want to add on top of that. So if y'all want to have a visual of what sister Cooper shared, you guys could find a visual on a real talk now From sister Roz on Facebook. Real talk now from sister Roz on Facebook. Now, are you actually coming out with a DACA, a documentary, sister Cooper, like an actual video recording of your experience, or it's just like pictures for now?

Speaker 1:

So right now, if you go on there, it's a lot, if you watch it, it's like you actually there, it's a lot of videos, it's a lot of pictures that you that will actually walk you through Jerusalem, as though you can feel this, though that you're there. So again, like I said, you have to probably stroll down a bit. What I might do is, once soon, just get it all on one and then make that like my pin at the top.

Speaker 3:

So when people Sit again, put it on you, put it on what YouTube?

Speaker 1:

on you, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, and put everything together and then that way you will have the whole story of Jerusalem. And if anybody looking to go to Jerusalem like I said, dr Thomas Jackson he is the person that is over, he does these trips like twice a year is actually one coming up in January 2024 you might have the same thing like I have you having to November to make that $4,500 payment if you like to go in January, oh, 2024, that trip is coming up and then I will have another documentary coming real soon.

Speaker 1:

Stay tuned, can't steal the beans right now All right, but it'll be another out of the country thing that I know that you guys are absolutely love. I can't wait to share that experience and again, I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I believe I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2:

So, sister, since the Cooper I know on brother, is it minister, dr Thomas Jackson? So, minister, talk, doctor Thomas Jackson, that is correct. I know he's one of the prominent preachers in a brotherhood so we're gonna provide all his information in the show notes. So if anybody is interested in a trip, and they have to be in the body of Christ, correct?

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's a worldwide thing, so anybody that wants to go, right, okay, take that trip to Jerusalem, because it's a different people all around that goes. So it's not limited to who can and cannot go. Anybody can take this trip. I Courage someone to invest into this, like to say, if you can invest in Disney World and come back with just the fun I went to Disney World I would suggest you invest into Jerusalem and make that payment and there was to be something that would stick with you for life.

Speaker 3:

Amen, I'm, I'm just and I, like I said, I will be going to Jerusalem. That's something that's been on my heart. So just listening to you, it definitely it shifted something in me. Just listening to you right now, just knowing that he loves us y'all, like God, loves us so much. We were his enemies and he loves us so much.

Speaker 3:

He sent his son in the form of a baby, who was almost Attacked by Herod Angel says take him to Egypt, right. And then he comes back, 12 years old, he's found Speaking in a wisdom and then, when he comes back on the scene, he's baptized by John. I'm taking y'all on a brief trip so you can understand how much he loves you. And Then getting baptized and going into the wilderness to be tried. After being tried, he goes out and says the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Three years later, he's beaten, he is bruised and he, he becomes the perfect Lamb of sacrifice for you and for me. Members of the body of Christ, I challenge you to stop just going to church and Start going into his presence and sit and Just welcome him and commune with him and enjoy him. I didn't even take the Jerusalem trip and I just felt like I had such an experience with him, I Will never worship the Lord the same, and I challenge you not to do the same as well.

Speaker 2:

That's it for now, but before we go, please continue to listen. Subscribe, it's your podcast. Also, if you want to support our show, please scroll down to the bottom of the show notes and click on the link that says buy me a coffee. We were greatly appreciated. Thank you for listening and remember God is good all the time and all the time God is good and also Jesus Christ loves you. Thank you you.

Preparing for a Spiritual Field Trip
Experiencing Jericho, Jesus, and Bethlehem
Experiencing Bethlehem and Nazareth
Baptism and Sea of Galilee Experience
Emotions at Garden and via Dolorosa
The Significance of the Garden Tomb
Garden Tomb Experience and Reflections

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