Ever wondered how two childhood friends could turn their love for tennis into building the world's largest pickleball community? Meet Aaron Reznick and Matt Slowinsky, the force behind the "Pickleball Clinic," a thriving online community and academy that's playing a significant role in the rise of pickleball in New Jersey and beyond. Their dedication to the sport is cemented not only in their successful tennis and pickleball academies but also in their mission to serve players of all levels and foster future pickleball stars.
Get ready to grasp the nitty-gritty of pickleball as we dive into the fundamentals of this addictive sport. The difference between tennis and pickleball, the art of getting to the kitchen line, limiting the backswing, and using your body effectively are some of the crucial aspects we'll dissect. Moreover, we discuss key pickleball shots and why regular drills can be a game-changer for your performance. So whether you're an aspiring pickleball pro or a fan of the sport, this episode offers a wealth of practical insights and tips to refine your game. Remember, the ability to consistently drop the ball in the kitchen can make all the difference!
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Ever wondered how two childhood friends could turn their love for tennis into building the world's largest pickleball community? Meet Aaron Reznick and Matt Slowinsky, the force behind the "Pickleball Clinic," a thriving online community and academy that's playing a significant role in the rise of pickleball in New Jersey and beyond. Their dedication to the sport is cemented not only in their successful tennis and pickleball academies but also in their mission to serve players of all levels and foster future pickleball stars.
Get ready to grasp the nitty-gritty of pickleball as we dive into the fundamentals of this addictive sport. The difference between tennis and pickleball, the art of getting to the kitchen line, limiting the backswing, and using your body effectively are some of the crucial aspects we'll dissect. Moreover, we discuss key pickleball shots and why regular drills can be a game-changer for your performance. So whether you're an aspiring pickleball pro or a fan of the sport, this episode offers a wealth of practical insights and tips to refine your game. Remember, the ability to consistently drop the ball in the kitchen can make all the difference!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/thepickleballclinic
https://www.thepbclinic.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thepickleballclinic/
https://www.tiktok.com/@thepickleballclinic
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I just think you can have a weak serve and a weak return and you could still get by. But if there's one thing that being perfect, will elevate your game the most, I think would be dropping every ball in the kitchen from anywhere on the court. If you can do that, if you have soft enough hands or you can release weight on the paddle, you can move your feet enough to be in position and literally take any ball, put it in the kitchen from anywhere on the court. Honestly, aside from everything else, you're, you'll probably, you're probably a 4-5, at least a 4-2-5, just from being able to do that.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, welcome back. Blazing paddles, episode 3. Today we have an episode you're gonna want to earmark so you can go back. Listen to these guys. These are two young men, aaron Resnick, matt Silvinsky and they have an online community called the pickleball clinic. The pick is pickleball is the largest online community. These guys have only been doing this about three years. Montclair pickleball is what they've established in New Jersey. They have three locations. They're a building, a nine-court facility. They also have an organization called first serve tennis their instructors, their teachers.
Speaker 2:So saddle up, take a listen. You'll be glad you did have a couple young guys here today, aaron and Matt and these guys have the biggest online community for pickleball. I can't believe that when when you said that, I went and checked it out and the numbers are pretty astonishing, what you guys have managed to accomplish. If I got this right and you guys can obviously tell me if I'm not but on Facebook, pickleball clinic has a hundred and over a hundred and seventeen thousand members, and then on Instagram, you have over forty six thousand followers. That's insane, how let's? Let's kind of back up a little bit, because you guys Aaron Resnick, matt Silvinsky, you guys are in.
Speaker 1:New Jersey.
Speaker 2:Montclair, yes, I'm old and you've got three locations. You said you're building a nine-court facility. I mean, that's a lot to you know, kind of motormouth, without what all you guys have able to accomplish. Can you tell us, you know, give us a little background. How did you get here?
Speaker 1:You know, what we do in our pickleball endeavors really mirrors the 95 plus percent of pickleball players, which is people that are not necessarily addicted and up to date on the pro scene, but people that are just playing pickleball every day, living and loving the sport. And you know, online we do have this number one online community for people that want to learn and play pickleball. Our Academies throughout New Jersey serve people that want to learn and play pickleball, and so I think our growth and success has really just mirrored the growth of the sport. As the sport grows and more and more People want to learn about pickleball and play, I think naturally our you know our ventures will evolve.
Speaker 1:We've been good friends since middle school, started playing tennis together when we're very young. We started giving tennis lessons in high school we ended up starting a tennis academy while we're in college, actually during COVID, just naturally. You know we had internships both and that was interested in law and I was interested in marketing and you know, with COVID those ended up kind of not coming to fruition, which was a blessing in disguise. We started our tennis academy then and there I continued growing it once we graduated college. You know I've said this a couple times. But I I met a kid freshman year college named Ben. We became good friends from club tennis and he tried to convince me to play Pickleball as well and I said it sounded kind of weird and you know he left, left off on it. He didn't really push it on me but then a year later I realized my friend Ben he's in this Washington Post article that he's the number one player in the world and I said, wait, ben.
Speaker 3:John oh what, what?
Speaker 1:okay, alright, so that's kind of my intro to pickleball. And I still didn't try the sport until I end of senior year because I was too naive. But we really started playing together. Once we started playing, we started teaching. Added on a second you know Academy to our tennis Academy, moncler pickleball, which ended up growing. Then wanted to do something bigger in the sport, affected growth on a national, global scale, started our media platform. That's a pretty short version of how we got here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that's the pretty much the summer right there. I think at the heart of it is we're an academy. So Montclair Pickleball is a pickleball academy and the pickleball clinic is really learning community. The name hints at it a little bit, but a lot of people come to our Facebook group and our newsletter and our community to learn more about pickleball and that's something that's pretty unique about us.
Speaker 3:Other clubs, especially in New Jersey yeah, they might have some instructors to give lessons, but no one else really calls themselves an academy. They might be a club. There might be some courts that they rent out and do some open player leagues, that kind of thing. But we really built our business on clinics and teaching and lessons and just building a community of players that might have never heard of pickleball before and come to us for the first time, or maybe they're coming to us already 3-0s and 3-5s and want to make it to the next level. We serve everybody. We have the highest level coaching staff in New Jersey and that's pretty much how we built it and now we've been able to expand.
Speaker 4:I'm dying to ask Okay, so wait a minute, you guys are incredible. Love the energy, love the history here. And I mean you've answered a lot of my questions and your answers, but I mean I got to know how long ago, because pickleball just speaking huge in Texas during the pandemic. So I mean it's just. I mean I know people that are looking to open up academies, but no, it's not even close to that. I mean heck, we were still trying to get pickleball courts. So what is the scene? Give me the pickleball scene up there.
Speaker 3:It's blown up Definitely. It seems like every week there's new courts popping up all over the place and we really started playing pickleball in 2021. And I mean since then. The growth that we've even seen since then has been just astronomical. I mean it's just absolute exponential growth.
Speaker 3:So it is, we do have a hotspot, I think, in the New Jersey, new York City, southern Connecticut, kind of that New York City metropolitan area. There's a lot of players around here. I know I went to, for example, I went to college at Holy Cross up in the Boston area and up there I know it's they're playing a little bit, but I'll go up and visit people and there there aren't like courts up there to go play on or anything like that, so it's not quite as popular and it's. I know Texas is a huge hotspot too in some areas. So I think it kind of depends on the location. That definitely I don't think it's been quite national in the sense that every single city or state has these, these big pickleball communities, but it definitely is thriving here in New Jersey, I think we're. You know, you know when you hear pickleball hotspot, you might think of the place like Florida, but I would argue that our location is a hotspot for sure Easing things.
Speaker 2:Well, you know it's something. I want to make sure I've referenced this because, aaron, you said something early on it. Actually, you both kind of reemphasize this. You remember it was here locally the MLP and PPA were getting into this little cat fight about who was going to do what and they're stealing players from each other and all that. And we kind of got caught up in it because we have, you know, we've been to some tournaments. We just started getting into it but 99% of the people had no idea, didn't care. That meant nothing to them because their, their level of pickleball had nothing to do with the professional level, had everything to do with their own experiential level and getting together with their friends on the social aspect. And so you know, a year give you an indication to like a year ago, just over a year ago, karen went to, was at the. It was the Texas open, texas open here. So all the top players and everything, and you could literally like walk up and shake hands with the players.
Speaker 4:Zero security, nothing. And then walking up with our drinks and hand, no barriers, you're just like. You're there where they're practicing, you're there where they're playing. You're getting autographs, pictures Nothing.
Speaker 1:Nobody cared.
Speaker 4:Okay, uh it that that changed dramatically. And now, with nationals being here, it's going to be a whole different scene.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got national championships that are going to be in. Now, this has got to hurt. I mean, they moved it from california I forget what, it was a real nice community but they're moving it to farmers branch texas, which has got to hurt california to lose something else. But, uh, yeah, national championships are going to be here. The players lounge Um, try not to look like you know old clingers on that want to meet these people.
Speaker 2:But it's going to be a scene, but we're more interested still in the playing part than we are in the pro part. Uh, since you guys are, it sounds like you're both natural teachers, um, educators. What do you think when you're because you get people of all levels Uh, when people are first getting into pickleball, what do you think is the first thing that you try to impress upon them? That if you're going to be good at the sport, you need to build, you know these fundamental skills right out of the bat.
Speaker 1:I think it's really important to come in with a mindset that the fundamentals are more important than anything else. In pickleball, um, you know the dinks and the volleys and the footwork and the decision making and core positioning that we teach and our beginner are two o to three o three o to three, five clinics those are the same. You know volleys, dinks, decision making, core positioning those are the same things that the pros are using at the top level. It's different where. You know, if you're talking about basketball, steph Curry has a very different way of approaching his jump shot than somebody in high school or college. In pickleball, you know, a ben john's backhand dink is pretty similar to a three, five, four o backhand dink. That's no offense to ben johns at all, it's just the the shot itself. The mechanics are very similar Across all levels. What gets better and different at the higher levels is just consistency, corpositioning, decision making, um, their ability to execute all that.
Speaker 1:So this is a sport you can play your entire life.
Speaker 1:Uh, most people that start playing don't stop, and if you're going to play this sport your entire life, it's so important to learn the right way, because the longer you play with wrong, incorrect technique, um, the harder it's going to be to correct it.
Speaker 1:You know, we have a tennis academy with adults that come in saying I've been playing for 20 years and oh my god, some of their forehands and backhands, it's. It's like we have to do surgery To correct them. And so when they come to us and they say, hey, I want to learn, I say great, this is your opportunity to start from the ground up the right way. So you know, coming back to ready position, getting in the kitchen line and staying in the kitchen line, eliminating your backswing, so pretending that you have a brick wall behind your elbows where you're not taking a backswing, you're not following through too much, using your legs and your body, not your arms, keeping your feet moving constantly at the line like you're standing on hot lava, going for the safe shot and a wide margin for air, not going for too much, returning and running up to the line, serving and staying behind the line these are all super important things you need to keep in mind from the start, because if you develop these habits consistently, they'll be subconscious forever.
Speaker 3:And we have one thing I'll add on there too. We have a saying in Montclair pickleball. It's coined by one of our coaches shout out, rob gruber. It's we teach beginners pickleball, not beginner pickleball, and the key there is that a lot of players without that don't have formal training.
Speaker 3:They might go out to the park and play with their local, you know, whoever 3-0, 3-5 players, they're going to learn the wrong way and there's a ceiling that you're going to hit very quickly. You have to learn the soft game. You have to learn the fundamentals the right way. You can't just go out there and hit the ball hard and what we see is that these players, they come out and we teach them the fundamentals the right way and they might at first lose to some of those players that have poor fundamentals. But just go out, bang the ball, don't really play what we call the right way, and they'll lose it first, but then eventually, after a couple months of practice, their game goes like that and they just skyrocket and they'll surpass all those players. So that's really. We hammer in those fundamentals all day, because that really is the best way to up your game quick.
Speaker 4:That's me. That's me right there. What you just said, that's what I. That's what happened I got. We were one of the earlier people around here playing pickleball, and Didn't know what we were doing, and then a bunch of.
Speaker 4:Then, you know, our community started growing and tennis players started migrating over to pickleball and they surpassed me in the beginning, even though I was playing way more and I had been playing longer, and I was super frustrated, but I just stuck with it and stuck with it and layer after layer started just adding things and things and, like I'm playing pickleball the way pickleball should be played, and it's really hard when you're playing again, when you're playing with, as tennis players are trying to unlearn the things that that in tennis that don't translate over to pickleball.
Speaker 4:Um, so I mean, there's some great things you know, and especially when I can partner with them and we can figure out that little Rhythm about what, what makes them good in tennis, that does translate well over into pickleball. And then I can pick up with the. You know the drops or the dinks or the. You know the, the, the court positioning, you know. That's another thing. You know they're so used to running right up to that line and we'd get to get beat every time on that side. So you nailed it right there and I just thought I keep telling people it's about layers and because you can't, there's only so much you can learn in a certain amount of time, well, and you pointed to me after about half the thing.
Speaker 2:Well, serve and stay.
Speaker 4:I love that. You said that, thank you. That's a fight we have Serve and stay. I creep. You heard it from the pros right here.
Speaker 2:I have a bad habit of creeping as far as I think, though. It is true, though, because you can see tennis players come out there and immediately they they're banging away and they have some shots and just blow you away. But then, once you know the kind of rising tide of the people who are pure pickleball players get there, they do things that the tennis players sometimes have never even considered. So there is it's definitely, you know. It helps, I think, when you first get going, but if you still have the bad habits, then they're not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100%. I mean we, we definitely firmly believe that if you're a tennis player and you learn the right way, you're going to get good very quickly. The problem is and we were both high level tennis players I played division one and Aaron and I competed in the junior resolve throughout our pretty much our whole lives. And I mean when we came out we had some people that guided us but we didn't have any formal training. It took us a lot longer, I think, to get to, let's say, a four or five level. Then it would have if we had somebody that was really working with us. All right, here's how you should be playing here. Here are the right shots. Here's how you hit this soft. Here's when you hit this hard.
Speaker 3:We have a one of our tennis coaches. He just graduated from college. He was a very high level player, four star recruit, played at Bates, one of the best division three teams in the country, and it took him only a couple of months to get to like a solid four, eight, essentially five oh level. I mean because from the off the back we said, well, you're not going to hit any of these shots hard, so he'll come out, we'll get set up a little five, oh, plus group and we'll invite him out and everyone's kind of like, wow, he's only been playing for a couple of months, like his touch is really good.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, because we tell him one in doubt just go soft, put it back in the kitchen so he's not like off balance trying to rip forehands or just speeding up for no reason in the kitchen line. And that really is the key there. But people don't understand it. So you have to get a little bit of formal training and and play with those higher level players that really understand the fundamentals. I mean I wish we had people like us that we could work with and play with and we first started out. We would have got, but that's how we learned to. We learned so much from, you know, having to figure it out.
Speaker 2:So here's a you know this is a selfish question because you just mentioned to it right now. I think we're, you know you can hit that plateau and I'd say we're solid between three, five and four.
Speaker 2:No self rating. Anyway, getting over that three five, hump to a four, oh, I think four O is where we're trying to get. What do you think? What's you know oftentimes what are the big dynamics, the differentiators that get you from that three five where everybody's three oh, three, five, but to get to a four oh, it's a this. You can tell the games different, what's different.
Speaker 3:I would say consistency is probably one of the bigger ones when we so we coach a lot of players better. So we have our clients, have these levels with a three, three, five level, three, five, four, four plus level. That's sort of more higher levels and the biggest difference I'd say, if you're looking at the three, five to four level, which for us really players that are trying to get to like a three, five, maybe three, seven, five, is the four plus we're trying to break through four oh. The biggest thing is consistency, I would say just being able to put the ball back in the kitchen when you need to, not making mistakes so like not missing third shots. Remember, right, if you're gonna miss a third shot, drop, miss it high. If you miss the net, the rally's over, but if you miss it high, you can at least fight back up and then also just making good decisions.
Speaker 3:I think that four oh is tended to generally make much better decisions. Three, five will sometimes speed up when in doubt, instead of just trusting their shots to be able to have, you have to know that you can dink for Our many shots in a row and really what the point draw. So I think there's it's most of that and forward to forward space. You gotta stay active on your feet, but most of that consistency.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I interviewed Riley Newman a few weeks ago but I asked him what are two aspects of pickleball that people at any level can improve on and I think this really applies to three, five to four oh level shot selection and decision make, or sorry, court positioning and decision making.
Speaker 1:You know the shots you choose to take are gonna make a huge difference where, at the three oh to three, five level, you can drive almost any ball and you'll get away with it. At the three, five, four oh four plus level, you have to be a lot more strategic, because if you drive the wrong ball, players will let it out, let it go out or if you're driving too high, they'll counter it and put it away. And then court positioning to knowing where to stand when to move. You know if you're standing closer to a ball in your dink, that's gonna make your shot better itself. If you're following the ball but you're standing too far away, you're gonna be reaching and you'll be off balance. So the shot selection in the court positioning are definitely two things that matter a lot more when you get around that For a level, okay.
Speaker 2:So this question where there is no right answer, but it I'm just always interested in asking, especially people who are at your talent level. You're forced to pick one shot, most important shot. What's the most important shot in pickleball? I tend to. I always say now and again I'm gonna be wrong, but I think it's the return to serve. But what do you guys say, what do you say, huh or?
Speaker 4:disturb the serve and I mean that maybe that's because we're at a level where you get away with it at our level, maybe what's the most important shot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got two answers there and one I'm going to agree with you. Every time I teach a beginner class I always say the serve is the most important shot, because without the serve you can't play it. So literally I would say the serve and the return of serve, but in terms of just playing high level pickleball and becoming the best player that you can be, I have to say the dink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would agree, but I would group the dink together with the drop and the reset and I'll take the word dink by its literal meaning, which is the dink actually stands for drop in the kitchen. That's what it stands for, which is a little bit weird because resets and drops are also dropping in the kitchen. So the meaning behind dink actually applies to other shots. So the drop in the kitchen, I think, is really the most important shot and that applies to any dink, any drop or any reset.
Speaker 1:Essentially, the ability to take any ball and put it back in the kitchen I think is probably the most important. But I mean there's a ton of right answers because, again, the serve and the return, they start off every single point. I just think you can have a weak serve and a weak return and you could still get by. But if there's one thing that, being perfect, will elevate your game the most, I think would be dropping every ball in the kitchen from anywhere on the court. If you can do that, if you have soft enough hands where you can release weight on the paddle, you can move your feet enough to be in a position and literally take any ball, put it in the kitchen from anywhere on the court. Probably, aside from everything else, you're probably a 4-5, at least a 4-2-5, just from being able to do that.
Speaker 3:And if there's one single thing that separates amateur pickleball players from professional pickleball players is that the pros can put the ball in the kitchen from anywhere in the court. It's not handspeed that separates them, it's not how hard you can hit the ball, it's the ability to put it in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:I know you're right, but it's just so cool when you see these firefights and all this stuff. The guys are just going rapid fire back and forth and now you see a lot of tutorials about these serves that you can do. That can really put people on their butt. But again, if your serve is out, it's worthless. It doesn't matter how hard it is. But, like yesterday, we spent a lot of time just dinking and just doing some serves and just doing some fundamentals. I think Texas was brutal this summer so we didn't probably get as much drill time as we wanted, but as the weather cools off, that's kind of what we're going to focus on. And also, we discovered I know I kind of our social guy online and discovered your online community. There's great stuff on there and it'll be the drills and some of the games that we're going to incorporate into our own routine. What were you going to say, hun?
Speaker 4:I have a question. Yeah, how much would you recommend drilling versus playing?
Speaker 1:I think it depends on your goals, because pickleball is super fun, and if you don't really care as much about getting better and you just want to have fun and play all day, then, though I would argue that if you want to play for fun, well, the better you are, the more fun it is. So, honestly, I would really go back and say whether you want to have fun or whether your goal is to get as good as possible. Drilling is always going to be the answer At the pro level. If your goals are more to get as good as physically possible, as quick as possible, it's going to be probably like a 4 to 1, 5 to 1 ratio of drilling to playing, and that probably seems almost impossible, just because most people you're usually going out to play.
Speaker 1:You know, imagine if you want to work on your third shot drop and you're playing a game a game to 11, you know, maybe you'll get four or five, six opportunities, maybe they'll return to you, but you might not be able to consistently work on it. If you go out and say, hey, can let's drill the third shot drop? Hit me 200 third shot drops in a row. You can hit many, many in a row and make tiny adjustments every shot and see okay, where does my hand need to be exactly? You're in a game. You're never going to hit two or three in a row within a 10 seconds span. So drilling, I think by far, is going to help you improve better, better, more quickly, more efficiently in your shots, at least three to one, four to one ratio, if that's really your goal and you have the you know the drilling partner and the bandwidth to do it.
Speaker 2:Okay, guys, I know I want to do a time check here too, because we got two busy guys here that were kind enough to give us a half hour. We're going to end it with this, because I know that you guys have an appointment coming up. If you were to just leave us all with one thought about you know, what can we do this week to improve our game and, by the way, we do try to have fun, but Karen always tells me winning is fun.
Speaker 4:No, okay, the truth is what, exactly what you just said? Is that it he tried to say we were going into a tournament and he was like, let's just have fun. We lost horribly. And I was like, was that fun? Was that fun? It wasn't fun, no more fun. So I love that you said that.
Speaker 2:Anywho, leave us all with one final thought. I mean, if you want to tell us more about the clinic or what you guys have planned, because I know you're still growing just leave us with any final thoughts you guys want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I appreciate the opportunity to talk about the clinic. I mean, as you know, for whether you're a pickleball player in China, India, right here in New Jersey our online community, it's the Pickleball Clinic. We're a Facebook group for players of all ages, all levels. Matt does tip of the day every single day. We put in news, memes, polls, giveaways, anything you can really imagine. That's our Facebook group, the Pickleball Clinic. You should definitely join it. We have a newsletter Also, the Pickleball Clinic, I think, thepbcliniccom, and you can sign up from there. It's a really awesome newsletter too. We got a bunch of people contributing content to that and really good news stories and the Pickleball Clinic on Instagram and YouTube also. Also, if you're in Montclair or New Jersey area ever, come out to Montclair Pickleball. We have some really great programs there In terms of leaving you guys with one thing to work on for this week. Matt probably has 30 of those lined up in his head, so why don't you start? I know something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think there's a lot of different options there, actually, first of all, thank you guys for having us on too. So I want to say that before we head off so really appreciate the opportunity to come on and chat with you guys A lot of fun. But yeah, I mean, there's a million different things I could say. For one thing you could do to improve, I'm going to go with a more unique answer that I think people don't do enough of at the amateur level, and something you can do easily by yourself at home Watch a little bit of film.
Speaker 3:Take some time to watch a pro match and watch the way they hit their shots, move their feet, because one of the best ways that you can improve for yourself, without a coach, without a drilling partner, is just by watching what the best players in the world do. That's an imitating them. That's what I did and many other tennis players did. I did that my whole life and I always was trying to imitate what players better than me tried to do on the court, and it helped me a lot. It helped me grow my technique, it helped me find shortcomings in my game and work on my strengths. But for pickleball too for those of you guys that don't have tennis backgrounds, which I know is a lot try the most pickleball players. You can start to pick up on those things that might not be natural to you, like the footwork patterns and the swing patterns that come very naturally to tennis players, and you can catch up with them.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I think watching film is huge. That's a really, really good tip. And then I'll leave you guys with sort of a mental tip. A lot of times when you go out to play rec games, if there's a bet or money on the line, or there's ego on the line, or it's a tournament or a league with pressure and standings and seedings at risk, people come in very, very stressed. I think their mindset affects their level of play.
Speaker 1:So my one tip would be and this is truly if your goal is to play competitively as good as possible my tip would be disconnect with the outcome. Treat every single point like you're literally drilling. If you're playing I don't care if it's the final of a 5-0,. When somebody hits you an out wide dink, treat it as oh, thanks for letting me practice my out wide dink. Or when they hit a big serve, yes, I could practice my slice return. Everything is just practice. It's just a shot to get yourself better. Disconnect with the outcome. Focus on every point separately, and that's probably where I'd leave it. But again, I appreciate you guys having us on this is awesome. Best of luck to you guys. Everything you guys have coming and, yeah, thanks again, thank you guys.
Speaker 2:It's been a pleasure of ours and again, we'll put all the connections and the links in the notes for the episode. We're going to send you guys some clips too. Hopefully you'll share some of it on the community, because I think what you've just told us I know with our own pickleball club is going to provide a lot of help as well. So thank you both. Karen, do you want?
Speaker 4:to final word. Yeah, you guys are amazing. Thanks for coming on. I love your energy, I love what you guys are doing. I love that you love pickleball for this sport. And you know what I'm going to work on that disconnection thing because, I have an issue with that. I'm very highly connected with the outcome.
Speaker 2:Thank you also for the original soundtrack of Blazing Paddles by Junkboy, aka Jack Whittaker, aka our oldest son. Thanks for joining me today, everybody.