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The Sailor Jerry Podcast
78 - Chris "TALLBOY' Coulon
Chris Coulon, AKA TALLBOY, is a tattoo artist, graphic designer, and all-around awesome human. In this episode, we catch up with Chris to discuss the details and inspiration behind his incredible skateboard collaboration with Sailor Jerry. We also dive into Chris's vibrant color tattoo style, inspired by a kaleidoscope of iconic skate graphics from artists like Ed Templeton, Mark Gonzalez, and Jim Phillips. We also discuss Halloween madness at North Street Tattoo in Salem, Massachusetts, Motörhead, ZZ TOP, Forrest Gump, and Chris's philosophy of life—"Seek peace and have fun." As always, brought to you by Sailor Jerry!
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Hell yeah, chris Coulon, aka Tall Boy in the House Sailor Jerry Podcast. How you doing my man?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm good man, I live in Salem Massachusetts, so it's kind of like Halloween madness right now. It's been like one of the craziest years for tourism that I can remember, so that's kind of what's up with us right now. Just driving around, I mean, picking up coffees is kind of insane.
Speaker 2:Just pedestrians running all over the place tourists driving around really slowly wrong side of the road, all that stuff. So it's fun. But we try to have a good attitude about it because you know what you're getting into when you live here. But sometimes it's like holy shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Does the shop pick up? You know, during this time Do you get a lot of Halloween tats coming through?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been real crazy, especially on the weekends. We just announced that we're going to be open seven days a week for October, just because the walk-ins have been crazy. Awesome man, A lot of brooms, crescent moons, black cats and witch hats. They're keeping us busy, so it's good.
Speaker 1:Nice. And what's the shop name? Again, north street tattoo. North street tattoo, salem, massachusetts, awesome, while we're on the topic here, as as a musician, as a touring human being, it's still one place that I've never, ever been to, which drives me fucking nuts. I think some of the guys from converge maybe live in salem. Yes, um, yeah, nate um, yeah, nate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jake is the? Um, jake's a singer. He lives like a little bit more north um, but kurt has, uh, his recording studio. God city is just smack dab in the middle of Salem.
Speaker 1:So that's sick. Shout out Converge. Shout out Kurt. Shout out Nate.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Nate especially when he's a skate, a skate buddy of mine.
Speaker 1:So he is dude. He's the man doom riders do riders in the house, but so you get into the witch trials of Salem. Are you from there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm from Lynn, so Lynn is the city right next door to Salem.
Speaker 1:All right. So you've been there your whole life, so you've seen it coming and going For someone who's never been there. Is there an energy? Is there any sort of rumblings from the olden era that you still feel in in town? You know, like real on the real deal level?
Speaker 2:yeah for sure, like I mean. So you've been to boston, right? Yeah, so it's like, yeah, it's. I mean, part of the reason why you probably haven't been there is just because it is like it's like a half an hour or so north of boston. If the traffic sucks, it's like you know what, however long that can take, it can take like two hours sometimes with like airport traffic, because it's like right on the coast there's kind of a distance between it and like the freeways, the highways, so it's like it's kind of a pain in the ass to get in and out of Um. But yeah, all the houses I mean a lot of the houses have been like preserved, with like the little historic plaques on them, with like oh, that's cool the year they were built, like 18, whatever, and like the name of the person that that um lived there.
Speaker 2:Like my next door neighbor's house, I think was it says ship builder. So there's like all these old, uh names and like the people that live there. So I feel like that kind of like. I mean, if you're prone to being haunted or whatever, like that energy going into an old house and like having that person in your mind already I think kind of gives out that energy. But those houses are all over town.
Speaker 2:Obviously, like the people that do business here and live here capitalize on on the witch witchiness, so all kinds of like curiosity shops and like fog machines going in the street right now and yeah, yeah and costumes everywhere. So it's definitely yeah, it's a weird spooky vibe. It's cool. My wife is um, she's awesome's like does not like getting scared, she hates getting scared. So for us, like walking to the local CVS. There's like a dude in a clown costume like trying to freak people out. There's a dude on stilts who hides behind like a, like a pillar, and he'll just step out when people are coming and scare the shit out of everybody. So yeah, it's a spooky place, it's fun, it's silly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds awesome, man, I mean it's. You know I, I love shit like that. Um, as far as you do you? Do you celebrate Halloween, are you? Are you dressing up this year? Do you dress up? What's your greatest costume? What do you? What are you working with?
Speaker 2:Oh man, I usually. I usually like to wait till the last minute and try to hit like the thrift stores or, like you know, home Depot or something silly like that and I. They usually come together pretty well. Last year I was um, I was Forrest Gump when he was running, cause I get the long hair and uh, that's Ooh, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I just wore some short shorts, some striped socks, um some. I had the the Nike Cortez kind of um a version of those like the SBs and uh, and I spray painted a Brown, um smiley face on a yellow t-shirt.
Speaker 1:Like when you, if you remember, when he's running, he invents that face t-shirt it happens. Yes, running, he invents that smiley face t-shirt. It happens, yes, yeah, and uh, my wife christy was jenny. Jenny, I feel like jenny got a bad rap in that movie. She's an. She's an easy target.
Speaker 2:Granted, she did kind of take advantage of our boy forest yeah, she's a, but you know character she's a controversial character, to say the least I know I'm trying to get jimmy the, the owner of our tattoo shop. He, um, he's, he's fine, but he had a accident on a vespa scooter over in greece and he, um, he, uh, broke his arm and to fuck up his ankle or something. He was in a wheelchair and I was like, oh, that'd be a good lieutenant, dan costume oh great, lieutenant dan, lieutenant you, you could do a good, lieutenant Dan too, with the hair.
Speaker 1:You could do like New Year's Eve. Sad Lieutenant Dan. I know it's a confetti, the confetti.
Speaker 2:I know, oh my God, yeah, shit, I might do that. Tie the tie the uh, tie the pants off.
Speaker 1:Wear like black tights on my on my real legs and have like fake stuffed pants, army pants.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, back to back forrest gump themes would be pretty great too.
Speaker 1:You could probably soak a good you know three, four years out of just characters in that movie alone.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah awesome man um, so you know, let's kind of get into your, uh, artistic career here, your kind of journey I would like to go. Since I don't really know you personally, I would like to go back to kind of where it all started for you, if that's cool. You know, when you were a young kid, how did that kind of take shape for you in the beginning? Were you drawing a lot? Was there any sort of artistry in the family or anything like that?
Speaker 2:my mom definitely, uh, was like a painter as like a hobby. Now that you say that, I've never really even given that much thought, but, um, yeah, she always had like paintings that she did, um, like some like, uh, new england, like coastal landscapes and cool um self-port portraits that she did hanging up in the house, um, so, yeah, I guess maybe that that might've planted the seed originally I've never even thought about that till now which is cool, I don't know. But um, cause you know, when I think of like my art it's like skulls and eyeballs and crazy shit. But I was around it a little bit growing up. She kind of did it as a hobby, um, but um, to think back to the like original influencers, I would say before I got into skateboarding I had a cousin that had a um might have been like a white zombie poster in his um, yeah, in his bedroom with that kind of like rat fank inspired style.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and um, my uncle had some of those uh, original weirdo, um hot rod models in his childhood bedroom at my grandmother's house. So I always loved those, like the bulging eyeballs and the monster stuff for sure, and then eventually getting into skateboarding, like that just blew the, blew the lid off. You know just like was obsessed with skate graphics from from day one of getting into skating.
Speaker 1:Shout out to that. First rob zombie or white zombie album, lost sex or sisto devil music volume one, because the cover on that I remember. I remember having that cd and I remember looking at it, going like this is so fucking cool, this is so this is so awesome getting into skateboarding art specifically what, uh, you know what spoke to you about skateboard art initially and how did you get into skateboarding?
Speaker 2:um, so I, I have the, uh, I have the older brother, um, so, yeah, so he had, he got the first like legit skateboard. It was an alien workshop graphic, um, alien workshop skateboard and, um, I think you know I wanted to use it. So, like, my parents made a rule that we had to share it. So we had one shared alien workshop board for a while and, um, you know, I do love those, those graphics. They're more designer, I guess you know I appreciate that and I went to school for graphic design, so I like that shit.
Speaker 2:Um, but it was when I saw toy machine graphics, like something about ed templeton's art, like the playfulness, like the, the simplicity of it, but also just like the, just the boldness of it. And the fact that he was a pro skater and did his own graphics like really inspired me, because I was still young and had that dream of being a pro skater one day, yeah, but when I learned that he did all like the toy machine graphics too, that was like, okay, maybe I can be a pro skater one day, yeah, um, but when I learned that he did all like the toy machine graphics too, that was like, okay, maybe I can be a pro skater who does his own graphics. That's fucking awesome. And then you know, then you see, like Mark Gonzalez, and you learn more about artists like that, who are like great skaters and also artists, and I'm like, well, that would be like the ideal life, I think.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, Hell yeah it would. That's awesome. Yeah, Older brother got you in. Shout out to older brothers worldwide what's the? What's the goat skateboard graphic Is it? Is it the screaming hand?
Speaker 2:Oh man, yeah, um, yeah, there's the screaming hand, but there's also the Roscoff face with the bulging eyeballs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that on a dude's arm the other couple of weeks ago and, uh, yeah, that might be the best the, the Corey O'Brien um Reaper with the fireball. You know, you know, I think there's like some history to uh a tie into tattooing with that one. I feel like Jim Phillips may have um referenced like some Mike Malone flash for that yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, um, shit, I know it's all it all goes to Jim Phillips for me personally, but I mean shit, I know it's all it all goes to jim phillips for me personally. But I mean, oh man, that book disposable from sean cliver just has like there's so many good ones and they're from so many different eras and like different decades of skateboarding. Like all that world industry shit was just like so fun and like controversial, like meant to get kids in trouble. There's like full on unity on some of them. Yeah, I love all that shit. The, um, the, the Jason Lee one with like the American flag and the Bible and the handgun like some of those were so iconic it's so hard to choose one, but the screaming hand, I mean, I got it tattooed on my palm.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:I got to show Jim Phillips that last year in Santa Cruz Hell, yeah, yeah, we went out for Santa Cruz's 50th birthday party and they premiered a documentary about Jim Phillips that we got to see and I don't know if it's been released yet, but when it is like everybody, everybody will see it, but everybody should see it.
Speaker 2:It was like so well done, it was such an awesome story. Like he has a, he had a time period in his life where he lived in Boston doing like, like show flyers for, like this, this venue in Boston I had no idea about, but they Santa Cruz got, they hired Dinosaur Junior to play on the Santa Cruz boardwalk, a free show facing the ocean. So the crowd was all on the beach and me and a bunch of like all the artists that I've always kind of talked to online and I met, met some of them, but they were all there. So we're all hanging out, partying together. We're running to get to the Dinosaur Junior show because we're running a little late down the boardwalk and, like I just come face to face with jim phillips, he's like leaving, dipping out early because he's he's older and probably going home, but, um, I got to show him my, my palm tattoo and he gave me a fist bump and that's all I needed.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's like meeting my god hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, that's such a fucking cool story. That's awesome, dude. Um, you designed a skateboard skate deck for sailor jerry, yeah, and it came out so sick. Uh, the iconic sailor jerry hula girl was the design, uh, that you chose. Um, I just kind of wanted to get into the collaboration a little bit. What was your thought process behind the design and kind of how did the whole thing come together?
Speaker 2:I worked with a dude named Dave Hort on that one. He's a skateboard enthusiast who's working for Sailor Jerry I think he still is, but I mean, I mean to go back to 2019, he, um, he invited me, he flew me out to London to do a sailor Jerry a mural on the side of a skate shop called three amigos out in Camden town. Awesome, uh. So yeah, we painted. It was like a whole city block with sharks on it. Um, we did a skate deck with them and a t-shirt to release that and his, his direction was like we want you to do your thing, but we want it to be inspired by sailor jerry and sailor jerry's art who I would?
Speaker 2:I would consider, like the jim phillips, you know, in tattooing, just like solid designs Just I've always referenced the Sailor Jerry designs, even like before I was tattooing like just a solid way to simplify, like what you're trying to draw and then kind of insert your own style off that base super clean graphics and iconic, so, um, so yeah, I really appreciated having that freedom.
Speaker 2:It's like we want you to do something that is inspired by and pays homage to sailor jerry, but we want it to be your art too. So, yeah, the uh iconic uh hula girls definitely definitely up there with like the most iconic sailor jerry design. So you know, I just kinda we we talked about doing like a Tiki theme, um, and I think just me doing my version of that uh tattoo flash design, like in my style, kind of just ties the two worlds together and like just translates it into a skate graphic, change the ukulele into like a flying V, um hell yeah, like a geeky mask in there, a volcano, just like some flames, some movement and um super bright colors. Um, so sector nine killed it with the execution Like the colors were fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:There's graphics on the wheels, on the grip tape, like all customized tall boy sailor Jerry. Super impressive execution on that. They sent it to me in a box with like straw and like a couple of bottles of rum. So I have it in my station at the shop. Actually, it's got a little dirt on the wheels too, cause I wrote it from my car to the shop. Actually it's got a little dirt on the wheels too, because I wrote it from my car to the shop and I'm like, oh shit, I should have kept this thing mint so I could have it on the wall and it can look clean.
Speaker 1:But I'll probably just rip it around a little bit more. Yeah, awesome man. And yeah, it came out so sick, thank you. And I mean it rides, it rides smooth, man, it rides smooth, it rides great. And uh, you know, kind of segueing into tattooing here, you know you mentioned, you know you grew up, you know, with art drawing, you went to graphic design school. How did the transition happen into tattooing? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I'm only my third year of tattooing, so I'm super new. Um, I w I've been getting tattooed since I was like 18. Um, I put out like we put up me and my wife put out these zines called nightwatch zine and they would. They would end up in a lot of tattoo shops and we met a lot of tattooers through that. We did a lot of traveling in our 20s just moving around um, from san diego to austin, to philly, back here to boston area, uh, to portland, oregon, and just got tattooed all along the way and made friends with tattooers and stuff. So I've always been like in tattoo shops getting getting tattooed and and, uh, like making friends with tattooers. But, um, I think there there came a time where I got kind of burnt out from hustling and like just being at my desk in my house or in my studio and just like scanning and emailing all my stuff and I don't know it. Just I got kind of burnt out on that and I wanted to work with people more.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I never did anything. I went to, I went to Salem state college and I did graphic design there. I never really like did anything with that degree, like officially, um. So I ended up. I ended up taking a, um, a graphic design job at like a large uh footwear company in Boston and, um, I worked there for like two years, like through the pandemic, so that that kept us, like you know, it kept me working through the pandemic, which was sick. But I kind of quickly realized that I, I, I don't like the corporate um side of uh graphic design.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that happens a lot. Dude, that happens a lot. I got a ton of friends that went to school for graphic design and they get out and they get like a you know a good job, but they're like basically like you know, like designing like shampoo ads or something like that, and they're like, dude, fuck this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a cool job, like don't get me wrong, but I'm like, oh man, I feel like it's so much, it's so much work and so much creative energy going into something that I'm not totally in love with and I think, to me, art, like me doing art, I need to uh the. I left the graphic design job and got an apprenticeship with um, with a friend named Andrew Bixby who owns garden city tattoo in Beverly, right next to Salem, and, uh, did a legit apprenticeship at age 35. So a humbling experience, but also like necessary. It taught me about working in a tattoo shop. It taught me about all this shit that can happen and will happen and comes through the door. You know, yeah, and then just kind of worked my way up.
Speaker 2:Luckily I have a following from all the board graphics and all the other illustration and hustling, the zine and all that stuff. So I have a. I had like an audience already. So it was. It was like a little bit easier for me to get people in the door to get tattooed early on, so, which was really fucking cool to have everything kind of tie together. So it's not like I'm leaving one world behind and, like you know, starting something new I'm trying to like. I'm trying to like mold everything together from like the zine making to the skateboard graphics and tattooing. Like my station at the shop now at north street, um looks like the wall behind me, it's like all skateboards and then tattoo flash and I just want to kind of kind of create that, that world of like tattooing and um skate graphics and just kind of like continue to build that style up. It's been super fun so far.
Speaker 1:Um, one thing I noticed, uh, in your work is is your use of, of, of, you know, color. It's like very, it's very bright and and I feel like that's something that, in my mind at least, translates from like skateboarding and skate graphics. Is that something that you kind of consciously do stylistically?
Speaker 2:yeah, for sure. Um the, the dude that taught me, uh andrew, he uses um a lot of bright colors too and kind of like definitely showed me the ropes on that it's really cool, it just pops man I just love using bright colors, like obviously from the boards behind me.
Speaker 2:You know it's like I know, I know like I don't know. It's everything's like different with tattooing. It'll heal and over time the colors they can't be neon, but there's tricks you can use, like putting a dark green next to a brighter green and it it. I think it connected with people and, um, a lot of people come to me like for the color stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. It's something that really stands out about, about your style. Um, you know you mentioned you did the, you did the apprenticeship. Uh, you went the old school way. Um, you know there's a lot of hot button topics in the tattooing community right now. One of them is, you know, the kind of Amazon generation of people just buying a tattoo machine online and just going for it. You know, musically I guess it's tough to kind of correlate, because I was thinking about this Music is just so wide open that to say, you don't think it's cool that anyone could just pick up a guitar and play music and that's dumbing. You know, like if someone goes and buys, you know, a tattoo machine on Amazon, runs around their whole neighborhood giving everybody shitty tattoos, does that dumb down the whole culture?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I've done that stuff, don't get me wrong. Like when I was younger, we me and some friends that attained a, uh, obtained a tattoo machine and we're just giving each other shitty tattoos at parties and stuff, um, but yeah, thinking back to that, I had no fucking idea what I was doing. I don't even know how we set up the rubber band on the thing, like we were drinking beers and just being crazy. So, uh, I personally can't imagine doing like what I'm doing now without having that legit apprenticeship, because it's like, dude, yeah, there's so much, there's so much that you, uh, that you gain from having like knowledgeable tattooers helping you out. So, yeah, yeah, With tattooing, it's so crazy because it has like such a history and like these shops that were only accessible by like walking in and like seeing all the art on the walls, like it was such like a walled off thing, and I think it really, like you know, it pisses people off to see it just kind of like a free-for-all, which I totally get.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm new to tattooing. I've only been in this for going on three years, so you know, it's not really I can't really like say too much about it, because there's people who've been doing it for like 20, 30, 40 years or whatever, and you know they're the ones that I think justifiably can get pretty pissed off about it. So I just try to just respect it as much as I can, because it's been around longer than me and it will be around longer than me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's interesting. I was like just thinking about different you know correlations between music and tattooing and gatekeeping, quote unquote, and it's like, in general, music is just kind of anyone can do it, but then as you get into scenes, whether it's punk or hardcore or hip hop or whatever, there's a lot of people who care about keeping the integrity of those genres alive and I get that and I respect that. But then it's just like, yeah, it's just. I mean that's like an endless conversation. You know A couple. I got a couple of pickums here for you. Ok, we're going to do like bands, uh, tattoo flash, random things. You tell me which one you like better. All right, on this one. I'm gonna start off with a heater right here, because I went to your instagram profile. You got zz top and you got motorhead the foundations for a great life. Uh, two of the greatest bands of all time. But if you had to choose between zz top or motorhead, who you got? Motorhead? What about? Uh, metallica or slayer?
Speaker 2:oh man, shit, I guess I'm more. I'm more in a metallica mood today, so I'll go with tiger, a wizard or dragon wizard yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get a wizard tattooed this week.
Speaker 1:I'm hyped on it. Uh, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get. Uh, spider sinclair is is down in la, he's gonna do a little wizard on my back. I'm hyped. Uh, barbed wire or chain link, chain link, peace or anarchy peace. That's the long hair talking right there, I know right morning till the morning thin lizzy or kiss oh, thin, lizzy yeah, snake or pinup girl, snake gas or electric gas, sandwich or burrito some people would say those are the those, but I'll go with that. Who says that no one says that. Psychopaths say that.
Speaker 2:Shout out to my boy, Matt Sticker Bargain bin blasphemy. I think he said soup is a sandwich. He says everything's a sandwich. I don't know. You'd have to talk to him this person sounds insane Punk or metal Metal.
Speaker 1:Nice Neil Diamond or Barry Manilow.
Speaker 2:Neil Diamond.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lover or fighter, lover Darts or dice Dice yeah, friends or followers, friends ACDC or Iron Maiden, maiden Nice and Black Sabbath or Solo Aussie Sabbath, oh really yeah. It always shocks me how many people say Sabbath. I'm like such a Solo Aussie guy. I love Solo Aussie.
Speaker 2:All these have been insanely hard, so I'm answering them as fast as I can, and the answer could be different tomorrow, but I like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, just a couple more questions here. We're going to end the pod on some hypotheticals. First one is the the classic time machine question. The classic time machine question. Okay, time machine shows up outside the shop, you know, doors open. Come on in, tall boy. Anywhere in history, where are you going to go first and why?
Speaker 2:oh man, I mean, there's like probably like this era where I feel like I've talked to some some old dudes before that have like explained, like or some of the shows they went to. I think there was like a time where you could see like the ramones and motorhead and like the stooges at like the same show. Yeah, and that would just be. That would be insane. So, whatever year that would be, like what, like 79 or some shit, I don't know that would be sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do? What if you went back to the witch trials, bro? What if you went back to the witch trials and then you were the guy in the shop? That was like I saw it all. I probably was. No, no, no one, no one dies in these hypotheticals.
Speaker 2:I'd be the guy with all the stones being dropped on him.
Speaker 1:Who is that guy?
Speaker 2:guy. His last words were more weight. He wouldn't sell out more weight that's some saline history for you right there yeah, absolutely all right.
Speaker 1:Uh, well, let's go. Let's go with the uh, genie in the bottle here. Okay, for the sake of the podcast. Let's say you crack open a a bottle of Sailor Jerry spiced rum and a genie comes out Lemmy. Let's say Lemmy comes out, yeah, and you're hyped. Obviously Anyone would be hyped to have Lemmy come out of the bottle. Lemmy comes out of the bottle, you know, and says what's up, tall boy, you know, I'm here to grant you one wish.
Speaker 2:And one wish only. It can be anything, oh my god. One wish from lemmy coming out of a rum bottle and shit.
Speaker 1:Am I gonna be basic as hell and say world peace, shit, am I gonna be basic as hell and say world peace, say that's a choice you got to make on your own. You know you can't. I just if you want to go, world peace, I don't think anyone would frown upon that shout out, shout out.
Speaker 2:To the crow mags I'll say world peace I like that.
Speaker 1:Uh, all right here, tall boy. Why, by the way, I gotta know? You don't seem like in our, unless you are possibly like, like secretly, like a seven footer. What where's tall boy come from? Is that from the beer can, or what? What's that all about? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Exclusively a tall boy drinker.
Speaker 2:No, no, maybe at one point in my life. Um, when I first started I was like a 40 ounce drinker cause they were so cheap. Um, no, I'm like, I'm like six. Two, I'm like a little taller than average oh, so you are a tall boy plenty of people that are taller than me.
Speaker 2:My buddy, matt the sandwich guy, he's like seven feet tall and like looks just like me. He's way taller but um, he, uh, yeah, what? When I was working at the screen printing shop, I was also like in college and I was taking like an illustration class and we had to do like comic strips and I did like a. I did a comic strip. That was like it was supposed to be political and I watched a debate between like Obama and John McCain and our assignment was to like do a political cartoon and I was just like so bored by the whole thing, like oh, I, I just hate that shit.
Speaker 2:So like they just kept talking about offshore drilling and I drew them like having sex on an island, said offshore, and and I just wrote I wrote tall boy under I'm like I'm not writing my name on this, uh, and I've always liked, you know, like pus head or like neck phase or like you know those, those dudes that have like art monikers. Um, so I was always looking for a name and I thought tall boy was cool. Definitely it's a beer reference. I've been a big beer dude for forever, um shout out beer.
Speaker 2:I think at the time, yeah, shout out beer. I think at the time I was working at that print shop and we were drinking those Arizona iced teas that were like a dollar for the man can. We'd just be like I'm going to the store to get some tall boys, like who wants a tall boy? Like let's drink some tall boys, let's get some tall boys. So, interestingly enough, it's kind of a weird term but I tell people this I'm like I think the name might have been more of a reference to those arizona ice t 99 cents, yeah, at that time. But yeah, I started writing tall boy. Shit caught on and I still write tall boy on everything hell yeah, hell yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1:Uh, chris coulon, tall boy, it's been a pleasure. My man, thank you for being a guest here on the Sailor Jerry podcast. Your incredible skateboard right here, sector 9 collaboration. Sailor Jerry, tall boy, iconic hula girl. It's out now. Congrats on it, my man. You killed it. You knocked it out of the park, stoked to have one. And our last question here a little bit of a doozy, but I think you're going to be all right. What to you, tall boy, is the meaning of life?
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, the meaning of life. Life, um so, uh, I would I would say like lately I've been, um, my wife has like been really good about like mantras and shit like that and she's been like teaching me about that stuff and I'm and she's like what's your mantra? And I'm like I think I came up with a couple, but it's a it's a work in progress. But seek peace and have fun. Like I think, if you have fun with everything like my job is to make skateboard graphics and to make tattoos and like I've like worked my whole life to to have a job that is fun, so I'm not so I'm just like enjoying as much of my life as possible. So, yeah, have fun and seek peace. I don't know, I don't know. Sometimes I guess anxiety just feels like shitty. So just remember to do. Do shit that is fun and through that you'll have peace. Whether it's skateboarding, artwork, whatever, those are the shit, that, the things that make me happy and give me peace.
Speaker 1:So Awesome Tall boy man, Really appreciate your time. Thanks for being a guest here on the sailor Jerry podcast no-transcript.