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Ep170: Engagement and Management - how to get your team back
Aug 11, 2026
Episode 170
John Thalheimer, MS Org Leadership and Chuck Simikian, SPHR, SHRM-SCP
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Managers are carrying too much, employees are feeling less connected, and AI is about to expose every weak workplace system that already exists. Chuck from HR Stories and leadership expert John Thalheimer break down Gallup’s 2025 State of the Global Workplace findings and reveal what they actually mean for 2026.
The headline number is hard to ignore: global employee engagement fell to 20%, costing the world an estimated $10 trillion in lost productivity. But the real story is not just disengagement, but rather what is driving it, from overwhelmed managers and broken processes to unclear priorities, poor systems, and workplaces that ask people to care without giving them a reason to.
Chuck and John unpack why engagement is a result, not a goal you can simply demand. They dig into the manager decline, the emotional burden of leadership, and why so many organizations keep promoting high performers into roles they were never trained to handle. You’ll hear why “pizza party” perks do not fix culture, why agency matters more than inspirational posters, and why meaningful choice, contribution, and progress are the real ingredients of better work.
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