HR Stories Podcast - A Lesson in Every Story!
Ep165: Should you fire your HR department?
Jul 07, 2026
Episode 165
John Thalheimer, MS Org Leadership and Chuck Simikian, SPHR, SHRM-SCP
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Most CEOs might not fire their entire HR team. But when Ryan Breslow, CEO of Bolt, did just that, the headlines sparked outrage. He claimed HR was “creating problems that didn’t exist” and insisted that once the department was gone, those issues simply vanished.
But is that story as simple as it sounds? Or is there a deeper lesson about leadership, culture, and the real role HR plays in building a resilient workplace?
In this episode, Chuck and John unpack the controversial decision that turned headlines into a valuable conversation about the true impact and potential pitfalls of HR departments. They explore whether HR is truly the department of no or if it’s the silent engine behind a company's success. You’ll discover how the story reflects broader truths about organizational culture, accountability, and what happens when leadership tries to ‘fire away’ at problems that are often just a conversation away from surfacing.
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