Ep165: Should you fire your HR department?

HR Stories Podcast - A Lesson in Every Story!

HR Stories Podcast - A Lesson in Every Story!
Ep165: Should you fire your HR department?
Jul 07, 2026 Episode 165
John Thalheimer, MS Org Leadership and Chuck Simikian, SPHR, SHRM-SCP

Send us Fan Mail

Most CEOs might not fire their entire HR team. But when Ryan Breslow, CEO of Bolt, did just that, the headlines sparked outrage. He claimed HR was “creating problems that didn’t exist” and insisted that once the department was gone, those issues simply vanished. 

But is that story as simple as it sounds? Or is there a deeper lesson about leadership, culture, and the real role HR plays in building a resilient workplace?

In this episode, Chuck and John unpack the controversial decision that turned headlines into a valuable conversation about the true impact and potential pitfalls of HR departments. They explore whether HR is truly the department of no or if it’s the silent engine behind a company's success. You’ll discover how the story reflects broader truths about organizational culture, accountability, and what happens when leadership tries to ‘fire away’ at problems that are often just a conversation away from surfacing.

Support the show

Our new book...The Ultimate Guide to HR: Checklists Edition is now AVAILABLE! 

Go to
UltimateGuidetoHR.com to Get HR Right: and Avoid Costly Mistakes. Certified and approved for 3 SHRM Recertification Credits.

Join the HR Team of One Community on Facebook or visit TeamAtHRstories.com and sign up for emails so you can be the first to know about new things we have coming up.

You can also follow us on Instagram and TikTok at @HRstoriesPodcast

Don't forget to rate our podcast, it really helps other people find it!

Do you have a situation or topic you’d like the team to discuss? Are you interested in having Chuck or John talk to your team or Emcee your event?  You can reach the Team at  Email@TeamAtHRStories.com for suggestions and inquiries.

The viewpoints expressed by the characters in the stories are not necessarily that of The Team at HR Stories. The stories are shared to present various, real-world scenarios and share how they were handled by policy and, at times, law. Chuck and John are not lawyers and always recommend working with an employment lawyer to address concerns. 

Episode Artwork Ep165: Should you fire your HR department? 21:13 Episode Artwork Ep164: Disparate Impact Changes You Can't Miss 22:16 Episode Artwork Ep163: Fire Them Out of Kindness 22:51 Episode Artwork Ep162: Why Raising Minimum Wage Creates Upward Salary Pressure 16:14 Episode Artwork Ep161: Clarity. Capabilities. Capacity. Change Your Workplaces Today. 16:35 Episode Artwork Ep160: You Can Pump... If We're Staffed 18:11 Episode Artwork Ep159: Friction-Causing Jolts Making Your Employees Quit 23:42 Episode Artwork Ep158: Succession - It doesn't need to be TV-worthy drama 21:44 Episode Artwork Ep157: The Changing Landscape of Internships 23:31 Episode Artwork Ep156: Discrimination By Customer Request 15:28 Episode Artwork Ep155: Let Your Employees Gossip (Kind Of) 19:31 Episode Artwork Ep154: The End of Women's Retreats? Not Exactly. 18:21 Episode Artwork Ep153: Can you do everything right and still get sued? 17:24 Episode Artwork Ep152: AI in HR - While the Courts Decide, What You Need to Think About 22:24 Episode Artwork Ep150: HR in the News - Shifts in the job market and what it really means 21:48 Episode Artwork Ep149: Q&A - Managing Emotional Responses 38:55 Episode Artwork Ep148: Planning for Employment Law Changes in 2026 - Pt 2 29:04 Episode Artwork Ep147: Planning for Employment Law Changes in 2026 - Pt 1 31:38 Episode Artwork Ep146: The Best of 2025 26:19 Episode Artwork Ep145: Hot Topics - Rolling Layoffs and reduced trust. Are you ready for 2026? 34:06 Episode Artwork Ep144: Moldy Misery - The Importance of Tracking Your Efforts 31:11 Episode Artwork Ep143: Q&A - Do I have to let ICE in? 26:19 Episode Artwork Ep142: A Six Million Dollar Mistake 17:38 Episode Artwork Ep141: Q&A - Tattoos and the Risks of Case-by-Case Policies 19:12 Episode Artwork Ep140: Work 32 hours a week whenever works best for you! 23:28