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So"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5075.9,"endTime":5079.02,"body":"yeah, wherever you need me to be"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5075.9,"endTime":5079.02,"body":"you know, I like to do kind of"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5079.41,"endTime":5083.13,"body":"private classes as well. So go"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5079.41,"endTime":5083.13,"body":"to people's houses and you know,"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5083.37,"endTime":5086.34,"body":"that in the online world"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5083.37,"endTime":5086.34,"body":"together yoga,"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5086.49,"endTime":5089.43,"body":"yeah. Perfect."},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5086.49,"endTime":5089.43,"body":"Okay, and winner will stick all"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5089.43,"endTime":5092.01,"body":"that in the show notes as well"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5089.43,"endTime":5092.01,"body":"and people can follow you and"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5092.07,"endTime":5094.56,"body":"see, see when you do have"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5092.07,"endTime":5094.56,"body":"something to say on Instagram."},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5094.74,"endTime":5096.78,"body":"Yeah, exactly. Just"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5094.74,"endTime":5096.78,"body":"Just wait."},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5097.56,"endTime":5099.27,"body":"Okay, well, thanks"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5097.56,"endTime":5099.27,"body":"Kim is for me to great talking"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5099.27,"endTime":5103.32,"body":"to you. I think that we've gone"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5099.27,"endTime":5103.32,"body":"through some some really"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5103.32,"endTime":5105.93,"body":"interesting issues and the"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5103.32,"endTime":5105.93,"body":"committee help out the listeners"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5106.44,"endTime":5109.05,"body":"who are trying to figure out"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5106.44,"endTime":5109.05,"body":"what they want to do and where"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5109.05,"endTime":5111.03,"body":"they want to go. And"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5111.21,"endTime":5113.76,"body":"yeah, cool. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5111.21,"endTime":5113.76,"body":"so much, Ryan. Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5113.76,"endTime":5116.88,"body":"having me. And yes, it's just"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5113.76,"endTime":5116.88,"body":"such a lovely experience to come"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5116.88,"endTime":5121.35,"body":"and just talk about yoga. It's"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5116.88,"endTime":5121.35,"body":"like my dream. So um, yeah,"},{"speaker":"Kim Katre","startTime":5121.35,"endTime":5122.76,"body":"thank you so much for having me."},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5122.82,"endTime":5124.86,"body":"No problem. And um,"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5122.82,"endTime":5124.86,"body":"yeah, as I say, so I guess I'm"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5124.86,"endTime":5127.53,"body":"sure that in a year or so time"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5124.86,"endTime":5127.53,"body":"would be good to kind of come"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5127.53,"endTime":5131.04,"body":"back and see, see where where"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5127.53,"endTime":5131.04,"body":"things have taken you and, and"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5131.04,"endTime":5134.4,"body":"what you're up to then so. So"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5131.04,"endTime":5134.4,"body":"yeah, thanks again. And yeah,"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5134.76,"endTime":5136.08,"body":"see you again soon. Cool."},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5136.26,"endTime":5138.96,"body":"Thanks for tuning in to this"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5136.26,"endTime":5138.96,"body":"week's episode of The Yoga Den"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5138.96,"endTime":5142.53,"body":"pPodcast. If you like the show,"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5138.96,"endTime":5142.53,"body":"hit subscribe, and leave a"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5142.53,"endTime":5145.71,"body":"review on Apple podcasts. 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RyanSpenceyoga.com"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5165.06,"endTime":5170.13,"body":"but for this week, all that's"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5170.13,"endTime":5175.29,"body":"left to say is eat plants. give"},{"speaker":"Ryan Spence","startTime":5170.13,"endTime":5175.29,"body":"thanks, do yoga. Peace"}]}