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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode
116 of Project Geekology.

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And here we are once again in
ancient Egypt.

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We are approaching the pharaoh
of all podcasts and just asking

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him to let our podcasts go.

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Speaker 2: I am one half of your
host, anthony, and joining me,

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as always, is dakota and you
guys are playing with the big

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boys now, um, we are also joined
with a third co-host, rich.

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Speaker 3: Say hello hey guys,
pretty excited here, I think.

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I think this episode is going
to get a lot of juicy reviews.

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You think so why?

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Speaker 2: do you say that?

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Speaker 3: I mean just to offset
the dryness of Egypt.

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But no, I think we're going to
have scorching hot takes in the

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sands of time.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaking of juicy reviews,
we've been trying to incorporate

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the idea of you guys should
review our podcast, Five Stars

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Juicy, and we use the term juicy
just because it's it's fun and

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it it caught on somewhere down
the line.

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The only thing I could find
that was like remotely juicy in

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this movie is like there's
there's a scene where moses has

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like a bunch of figs in his hand
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Speaker 1: I'm like that looks
juicy, so oh yeah.

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So the funny thing is is that I
went over that whole spiel and

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we talked and we didn't even say
what movie we were covering,

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which is gonna be dreamworks
movie in 1998 the prince of

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egypt was it eight or 1999, I
thought uh, no, no, it was 98 oh

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okay, so all right, so I I have
a correction to make to you

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both.

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Speaker 2: I texted you that you
, you know, the mummy and this

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movie, the Prince of Egypt, took
place in, or were released in,

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the same year, but I guess I was
a year off or like six months

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off or something like that but
it does share some similarities

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in terms of, you know, just like
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two movies.

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Like we spoke about, some of
the characters that exist in the

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mummy that you know actually
existed in real life, one of

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those being Seti I, the pharaoh,
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killed in the beginning of the
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That person, seti I, is in this
movie depicted as the pharaoh

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that exists while Moses is still
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leaves and goes into the
wilderness.

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But yeah, so there's some
connections there and both films

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are also very liberal with
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make a lot of creative liberties
, I should say, and it works for

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both movies and I think it
works for this one.

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So I'm excited to talk about
some of that.

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And yeah, I'll try not to be too
Egyptology-ish, that's not a

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word.

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I'm trying not to go crazy with
the Egyptology stuff, this

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podcast, because I could
probably talk for like 30

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minutes about it, but yeah,
we're discussing Prince of Egypt

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, guys.

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Before we do any of that,
though, let's jump into what

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we've been up to this past week.

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Rich, I'm going to hand it off
to you.

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What have you been up to?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's see,
Work-wise things kind of heat up

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I don't know if it's kind of
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This year April 20th is my big
deadline at work.

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I have to make sure that there
are a lot of things taken care

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of, submitted, shared.

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I have to manage over like 12
different people and 200

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something students and make sure
that everyone meets deadlines.

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So kind of in the middle of
that that's been taking up a lot

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of my energy.

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But also can't forget that the
New York Metropolitans have

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returned home and I returned
home, I went to opening day and

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then I went to the next day,
which was bitterly cold oh my

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god man and stayed two days ago
it was like so cold.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you
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Speaker 3: So that was the
fourth game which I did not.

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Yeah, I went to friday,
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took a day off, not a day off.

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It was so cold up here that
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from 7 10 to 4 10 and I've never
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the cold, but it was windy and
cold so they moved it.

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It was brutal anthony.

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Speaker 2: Like it, like this
past week in new york, like last

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week, was nice, it's beautiful,
almost t-shirt weather, and

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then this week, like last night,
it was in the 20s.

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It was in the 20 degrees last
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I don't know what is going on
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Speaker 1: So yeah, hey man, you
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like 70 degrees Today.

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It dropped a little bit to,
like you know, the morning it

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was like in the like the upper
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Speaker 3: So it was pretty good
rough times for you, sir, but I

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know it's hey, florida, that's,
that's like, that's like parka

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weather but all in all it was
nice to get back in the swing,

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nice to go to the games, and my
son likes to score the games so

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we score it together, so it's
just and honestly, the best part

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about it is I'm technically
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When my wife basically wants me
to touch grass, that's what I

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do it.

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I touch it at the baseball
field.

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So what have you been up to?

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Dakota?

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Speaker 2: nice man, before we
jump over to me, are you, uh,

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still actively playing mlb the
show like how's that going,

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how's that going?

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to
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I I've been feeling really good
about my playing, all right.

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I've been feeling I'm
collecting lots of the cards.

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I've been feeling really good
about my playing, all right.

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I've been feeling I'm
collecting lots of the cards.

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I've been closing out
collections.

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They're still I think it's four
days left in the season.

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I've gotten almost everything I
need for the next.

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It's called the second inning,
which will be kind of like the

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career, the reward path that I'm
really excited that I I maxed

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out the first one.

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I've got some kind of voucher
that I earned for the second one

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, so I'm looking forward to that
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And then I went to the med game
with my friend and apparently

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he is somehow more of a
degenerate player than I am.

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So you have to get to a certain
level to get a special card for

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each team and that is going to
be like a pack, revealed on

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april 24th, I believe.

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So you need to get 15 out of 30
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It's quite a lot of xp.

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To earn very specific things.

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You have to pitch with
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I've been winning games with
lots of low, low, low name, low

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level, no name guys, because
that's all I have available for

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that team and I got 15 of them
almost and I'm so proud of that.

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And this guy goes well.

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I got all 30 teams.

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Listen to me when I tell you
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digit I, I.

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Speaker 2: I think they say that
in phantom it's just I.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting there.

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You don't understand.

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We're both teachers, right?

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We both have families, and I
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aside from using uppers to stay
up and never go to sleep, I

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don't even know how I could play
more MLB.

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But I found out that one of the
big mistakes I'm making is I

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should be playing in Colorado,
because I like to play at Citi

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The conditions are the
conditions in Queens, but if you

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play in Colorado, every game it
is the high altitude will

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actually drive the ball out more
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So I could be getting more home
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, that's bizarre, bizarre,
that's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre that the
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physics in its like programming.

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That's.

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I'm actually impressed by that.

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So if there were any way to
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collecting cards aspect wouldn't
work, that actually might, you

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know, push me over the top.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of cool.

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I do want to mention I was a
little late to sign on today

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because you said cards.

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Charlie, my son started playing
the pokemon pocket card trading

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game and like we just ripped 10
packs before we got down, like

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he was like wait, I have enough
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Dad and I was like let's go.

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So it was uh, he got a.

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He got aidgeotto EX, which we
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Speaker 2: Excellent, I love
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All right, I'll take it back
from you.

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Let's see.

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What have I been up to?

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I think mostly I've been
watching.

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Well, the finale, the season
finale of White Lotus, season 3,

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happened this past weekend and
that was nuts Like.

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That was a crazy ending to that
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There's nothing I can say that
isn't a spoiler, especially you

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know.

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I know Anthony is watching the
first season.

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I don't know if you finished
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and yeah, I don't want to spoil
it for anyone who is listening

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and potentially wants to watch
that show, but very, very good

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show, very worth worth it.

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And now I am in the middle of
season two of severance.

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So severance is an apple tv
series where it's like a serious

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, like mind-melting show in a
very literal sense.

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So there is this idea, this
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It's like a parallel world to
ours, but in this world there's

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a sci fi concept that's almost
Black Mirror ish, where they

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introduce this concept of
severance where when you go to

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work and clock in, there's a
chip in your brain that

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basically like resets.

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So you have no idea who you are
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You only have an idea of like
who you are on the inside.

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So if you've only been working
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Technically, that individual
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existed for a month.

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So you kind of grow into this
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I mean, they're not babies.

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They understand english and
everything, but they have no

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concept of the outside world and
the people on the outside have

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no concept of what's happening
on the inside world of you know.

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A severance like work, workflow
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So it's a really crazy system
and as the show goes on, you

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realize that this company that
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working for, lumen, is not what
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It almost like like extreme
cult, like has an extreme cult

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like following and all that and
it's just super freaky stuff.

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So I'm really enjoying severance
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It's a really cool concept and,
yeah, the the lines between you

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know the any, the person who's
like the inside you who's

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working, versus the outside
person who's just living their

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day-to-day life starts to blend
and it's just, it's just chaos.

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Really, really good show.

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But I think that is all for me
this week.

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Yeah, anthony, what have you
been up to?

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Have you finished white lotus
season one?

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Speaker 1: no, no, no, I haven't
finished that yet.

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I don't really have much that
I've had going on, except for

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I'm a week and a half in my new
job role, so I've been, you know

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, doing a lot of learning, a lot
of brain dumping.

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There's definitely a lot that
I'm not going to know when I

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start this role, and it's not as
how long is the period where

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you are, you know training.

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Two weeks of training, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty long
training session, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, with
this job role, there's a lot

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that goes into it.

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I could be doing anything from
helping somebody reset their

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password to going into their
files and helping them with like

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program stuff, you know.

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definitely a lot that I won't

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And the thing is, is that, like
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trainers can go over, because
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the time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I worked in
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This was back in like 2011 2012
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printers because for some reason
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They just break down constantly
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I feel like I reset the same
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Yeah, so that that's my least
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Speaker 1: So the thing about
like our stuff is that a lot of

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it is like kind of in network so
you can access a lot of like

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printers because they are in the
network and you know we can go

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as far as to like logging into,
like the individual, like

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printer, not just the drivers on
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getting the printer pinging,
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that it's connecting to the
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You know just different stuff
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there's only so much that they

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can kind of go over.

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like live calls and like kind
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tickets and stuff and you know
just to like show us like the

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different scenarios and then how
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like tickets and stuff.

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You know, I do believe that like
I will be busy, but I don't

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think I'm going to be anywhere
as busy as I was working at a

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branch and that sounds insane
because I'm going to be helping

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all of the branches.

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But the thing is is that I've
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of the branches are really slow
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at was like a main hub and like
we were just crazy busy all the

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time.

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I mean, there are times in a
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like I suspect that like I
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maybe the busier days a little
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You know on a day and then like
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bit more than that, whereas,
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was helping a lot more people
and doing like a lot more

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transactions.

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You know, like so I'm I'm
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and like this doesn't seem as
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it'll probably pick up a little
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Speaker 2: No, it will pick up a
little bit dang sounds like you

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are the perfect candidate for a
severance I do.

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Speaker 1: I do forget about my,
you know, outside life, when I

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clock into, uh, I clock into
work, but but yeah, no man.

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So you know, it's been, it's
been good, been good.

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I do like working from home.

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I don't think I ever want to
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Speaker 2: I totally get that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man.

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So yeah, the biggest thing for
me is just work, and you know

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not much.

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I mean, you know we're still
watching through One Piece.

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I didn't watch any episodes.

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I I think like in a week and a
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So but but yeah, man, nothing,
crazy man.

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I mean I don't know if you guys
have anything else that you

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needed to add to what you've
been up to, but I think it's

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safe to say we can hop into the
topic I think this is a rare

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podcast where we actually start
talking about the topic at hand

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prior to the 20 minute mark.

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Speaker 2: So you know, pat
ourselves in the back a little

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bit.

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There guys, we are here to talk
about the Prince of Egypt.

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This is an adaptation of the
Exodus story, the story of how

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you know in the Bible or the
Torah, how Moses led the Hebrew

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slaves out of captivity from
basically a very tyrannical and

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cruel ruler who is an unnamed
Pharaoh in the Bible.

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So, yeah, I think this movie
does a really good job of taking

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what is there in the Bible and
just wrapping a motivational

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children's story.

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You know, it is very spiritual
and I think it gets the spirit

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of the story mostly right, even
though it does take a lot of

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creative liberties.

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But we'll talk more about that
in a little bit.

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Anthony, you said you hadn't
watched this movie since you

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were a kid.

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Yeah, man, how do you feel
going back to it?

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Speaker 1: it was crazy.

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It really did bring me back to
when I was a kid.

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I I remember seeing.

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So I do remember seeing this in
theaters and this was like back

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in 98.

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I, I know I wasn't even 10 yet
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So, yeah, I was, I was young.

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Um, I do remember it seeing it,
like you know, a few more times

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after that, my parents getting
that movie.

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So I remember seeing it, not
just once.

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I saw it a bunch of times when
I was a kid, but after a while I

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just never saw it again.

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I mean, it always popped up in
my mind and I always see it pop

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up online and I'd be like man,
yeah, I remember that movie and

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I remember just how I thought
the art was really cool and I

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kind of remembered some of the
songs a little bit and yeah, man

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, it was wild.

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Going back to this movie, how
about?

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Speaker 2: you what was awesome.

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Speaker 1: You've seen this.

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Speaker 2: I watched it with my
wife, jen.

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She had never seen it so I was
just like, oh, oh, let's throw

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it on.

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It might have been five, six,
seven years ago or something

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like that.

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You know, it was not super long
ago, so I I I do have this more

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fresh in my mind than you do,
but prior to that it had been a

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very long time.

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Like you, I also I don't think
I saw it in the movie theater,

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but I did have the dvd and it
was one of my favorite dvds

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because it had, like a there was
a special feature.

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That was when, like you know,
when dvds first came out, the

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special features.

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Like you needed to watch the
special features because it was

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the coolest concept, like you,
just get extra movie yeah, yeah

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and a lot of background stuff,
man, I loved.

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Speaker 1: I love the, the
special features and like extra

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stuff and like the dvd versions
of, like the extended editions

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of, the lord of the rings oh
yeah, you know so and all that,

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yeah, so yeah no, no, you're
right.

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Like that was that time, yeah,
like we had definitely got extra

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and and the the special
features I feel like nobody

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cares with the blu-rays or
anything like that like there's.

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Speaker 2: If you ever go into
like the special features for

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stuff like that, it's pretty
bare, there's not much there.

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They'll show you like.

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This is the teaser trailer.

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This is the regular trailer.

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This is an interview with the
director oh, yeah, you know, but

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there was a really cool special
feature on this particular

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movie that was a rendition of
when you Believe.

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It's the big emotional song
when they're leaving Egypt and

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it's a multi-language version,
so it's the same exact clip of

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them.

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You know, like Miriam and
Zipporah singing.

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You know the song when you
Believe, but every five to 10

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seconds it switches to a
different language and it's

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really well woven and it's like
25, 30 something languages like

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throughout the course of the
song and it's a really beautiful

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piece.

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You can find it on YouTube,
even though nobody like has

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uploaded a clear version in a
very long time, like the.

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The newest version that you can
find online, at least on

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youtube, is 17 years old.

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It looks like it was recorded
on a potato, but it's really.

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It's a really beautiful scene
and if you have the dvd, that

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would be the ideal way to watch
that.

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But yeah, I do not have that
anymore yeah, yeah, I know same

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here it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been lost
over the years.

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Speaker 2: But lost a time.

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It is now ancient history, but
you know we have someone on the

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podcast who had never seen this
movie before.

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Speaker 3: It's like you guys, I
don't know how you found the

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recesses, dark recesses of my
mind for things that either I've

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stayed away from on purpose you
know purposely stay away from

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or things that I just okay.

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Well, you said that Val Kilmer
was the voice of God.

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Speaker 1: And Moses, right yeah
and Moses.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the best
part.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not the
voice of Moses.

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No, he's not.

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I think he's literally just God
.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I think he
has multiple voices.

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I think he's two voices, does
he?

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has
two voices.

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Speaker 3: He might be like
Ralph Fiennes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Ralph
Fiennes.

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Speaker 3: That's Voldemort.

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Speaker 2: Isn, that's voldemort
, isn't more val kilmer.

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Am I?

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Am I wrong?

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Moses?

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And god, yeah, val kilmer was
moses.

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Oh snap, okay, so I was.

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I was confusing, because I
listened to the, I listened to

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the music, oh yeah, so this
makes it okay.

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Speaker 3: So that makes it
hilarious, because I did not

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even know this was an animated
movie.

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I there's like this movie.

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I didn't know anything about it
, right, I thought it was gonna

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be like ben-hur, right, and that
val kilmer was playing the

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voice of god.

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So when I saw that it was
animated I was like whoa what?

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So I was already super
surprised going into it, because

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I can't explain to you why I
like dreamworks movies.

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I've seen many other dreamworks
movies.

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I don't remember this existing.

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I've never seen the movie, the
cover, the poster.

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I don't remember seeing a
commercial.

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I couldn't believe how many
people were in the movie that I

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know I was like it's a massive
cast jeff goldblum.

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Before goldblum like I mean, yes
, it, it's craig martin short,

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it's his buddy, that steve
martin, steve martin, right,

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sandra bullock's in it.

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I was like whoa, helen mirren,
helen mirren patrick stewart,

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michelle pfeiffer what I heard
was actually, this was actually

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like a stacked.

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This movie was stacked.

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Speaker 1: I heard Patrick.

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Speaker 3: Stewart's voice and I
paused the movie and I went who

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the, you know, pardon, my
French is in this movie and I,

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you know, went ahead and was
like oh man, this is nuts.

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Speaker 2: I had this.

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I think it was the exact same
moment where I heard a voice

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that I recognized.

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I was just like I can't picture
who this is in my head, but I

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recognized that voice so well
and I looked it up.

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Yeah, and that's.

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That's also when I saw the cast
.

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So the reason I, the reason I
was so convinced that val kilmer

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wasn't the voice of moses, is
because he doesn't do the

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singing yeah, yeah, oh, yeah,
that's that's, that's what threw

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me off there.

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But, like, ralph fines does do
the singing role, so he plays

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ramses and dude I love.

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First of all, the music in this
movie is just so incredible.

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The, the song let my people go
where it's like a it's it

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doubles with moses singing.

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Why won't you let my people go?

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And he goes.

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I will not let my people, your
people go.

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It's such a great duet and
whenever I hear ralph fines I

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cannot not picture voldemort.

462
00:22:43,391 --> 00:22:45,638
So I'm just picturing voldemort
singing.

463
00:22:45,638 --> 00:22:50,555
So if you ever listen to what's
the name of this song I want to

464
00:22:50,555 --> 00:22:56,525
like, actually it is called, oh
, it's called the plagues.

465
00:22:56,525 --> 00:22:58,688
Yeah, that's, that's the name
of the song.

466
00:22:58,688 --> 00:23:02,903
It's ralph fines and amic byram
, who I thought was the voice of

467
00:23:02,903 --> 00:23:03,243
moses.

468
00:23:03,243 --> 00:23:06,152
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like
voldemort.

469
00:23:06,152 --> 00:23:09,419
If you, if you listen to that
with the lens of this, is

470
00:23:09,459 --> 00:23:10,300
voldemort singing.

471
00:23:11,001 --> 00:23:15,796
Speaker 1: It's so much funnier
I know that we decided to cover

472
00:23:15,816 --> 00:23:16,337
this movie.

473
00:23:16,337 --> 00:23:18,064
You, you know it.

474
00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:20,214
We thought it would be fun to
like stay in Egypt.

475
00:23:20,214 --> 00:23:22,644
But also, you know Val Kilmer.

476
00:23:22,644 --> 00:23:26,375
He does a couple of voices in
this movie like you know two

477
00:23:26,435 --> 00:23:30,520
major like characters and I was
wondering what he got top

478
00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:30,842
billing.

479
00:23:31,063 --> 00:23:31,845
Speaker 2: I kept looking at it.

480
00:23:31,845 --> 00:23:32,626
I was just like man.

481
00:23:32,626 --> 00:23:34,682
He only has a couple of lines.

482
00:23:34,682 --> 00:23:40,361
I don't know why he's like the
top build actor on this, but

483
00:23:40,382 --> 00:23:41,145
that changes the way I see the
movie.

484
00:23:41,145 --> 00:23:42,553
Yeah, I don't know how I didn't
realize that, but all right

485
00:23:42,573 --> 00:23:42,653
cool.

486
00:23:42,673 --> 00:23:45,681
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, we, we
lost them a couple weeks ago,

487
00:23:45,701 --> 00:23:46,702
man or was it?

488
00:23:46,702 --> 00:23:48,886
Last week, it was last last
week, yeah, yeah.

489
00:23:48,886 --> 00:23:52,464
So, yeah, man, going back, you
know, watching it.

490
00:23:52,566 --> 00:23:54,633
Speaker 2: As an adult like you
have much more of an

491
00:23:54,653 --> 00:23:57,723
appreciation for like the
artwork of of stuff and like the

492
00:23:57,723 --> 00:24:02,643
artwork and this is like so
good man, I'm like this was 1998

493
00:24:02,643 --> 00:24:08,078
it's 98 it's so creative, like
the way that the backgrounds are

494
00:24:08,078 --> 00:24:11,593
just like the really bright
pastel colors and like the

495
00:24:11,633 --> 00:24:14,460
really fluid motion of, like the
anime, the animated characters,

496
00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:20,974
and it blends that like
cartoony vibe that is so typical

497
00:24:20,974 --> 00:24:24,564
of dreamworks and disney at
that time, like the facial

498
00:24:24,604 --> 00:24:27,637
expressions that characters make
, the sinister grins that, like

499
00:24:27,657 --> 00:24:28,980
the evil dudes have.

500
00:24:28,980 --> 00:24:33,016
It blends all of that so well
and it really takes a lot of

501
00:24:33,096 --> 00:24:36,805
like creative license with, you
know, incorporating egyptian

502
00:24:36,924 --> 00:24:38,496
iconography and stuff into it.

503
00:24:38,496 --> 00:24:42,424
Like you know, like last week
on, while we were talking about

504
00:24:42,444 --> 00:24:45,818
the mummy, I kept saying like
whenever it's a egypt movie,

505
00:24:45,838 --> 00:24:48,125
they have to put the pyramids in
the background.

506
00:24:48,224 --> 00:24:49,635
Speaker 1: They just can't help
themselves.

507
00:24:50,037 --> 00:24:52,523
Speaker 2: They did that in this
one too this doesn't take place

508
00:24:52,523 --> 00:24:55,980
anywhere near that, but hey
they're right there, hey man.

509
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:59,807
Speaker 1: Look, we have to let
people know that it's in egypt.

510
00:24:59,807 --> 00:25:03,522
Yes, I know, one of the one of
the things that I really liked

511
00:25:03,824 --> 00:25:07,878
about you know, and kind of like
going back a little bit to the

512
00:25:07,959 --> 00:25:13,249
artwork, is that like it's 2d
animation but they give it like

513
00:25:13,335 --> 00:25:18,028
dimension, like it looks almost
3d but it's 2d yeah, they did

514
00:25:18,048 --> 00:25:22,159
the same thing that, like early
avatar did, where they it is a

515
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,185
2d show or in this case it's 2d
movie.

516
00:25:26,707 --> 00:25:29,977
Speaker 2: But they do
incorporate slight cgi elements

517
00:25:30,377 --> 00:25:33,684
that you will notice of like, if
you like are paying attention,

518
00:25:33,724 --> 00:25:38,304
like the scene where moses
mother sends him into the, the

519
00:25:38,364 --> 00:25:40,417
river, with, you know, in the in
the basket.

520
00:25:40,417 --> 00:25:45,087
The basket is cgi yeah but it's
like a flat cgi so it blends in

521
00:25:45,087 --> 00:25:45,958
with the 2d animation.

522
00:25:45,958 --> 00:25:48,025
It's it's really really clever.

523
00:25:48,164 --> 00:25:50,815
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it a lot
yeah, I thought, I thought that

524
00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:53,398
that really held up, like
because you know I'm thinking,

525
00:25:53,419 --> 00:25:56,542
oh, it's a 1999 movie, what's
the animation going to be like?

526
00:25:56,542 --> 00:26:02,136
But I thought it definitely is,
in that you know, like

527
00:26:02,217 --> 00:26:07,422
Mulan-ish kind of style it's
definitely crisper than you know

528
00:26:07,422 --> 00:26:10,682
, like, of course I'm going to
reference another kind of well,

529
00:26:10,721 --> 00:26:11,846
middle Eastern Aladdin.

530
00:26:11,846 --> 00:26:15,905
I loved that movie and I
watched it a couple years ago

531
00:26:16,454 --> 00:26:17,017
and it doesn't.

532
00:26:17,017 --> 00:26:19,876
The animation's just a bit
behind this.

533
00:26:20,096 --> 00:26:21,641
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's.

534
00:26:21,641 --> 00:26:25,147
It's like around the time of
like lion king and all that.

535
00:26:25,147 --> 00:26:28,440
It's like the early 90s disney
movies had.

536
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,048
They weren't as I don't want to
say, they weren't as creative,

537
00:26:33,169 --> 00:26:35,221
but it was a different art yeah
you know, that doesn't

538
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,641
necessarily hold up today,
because it's not incorporated at

539
00:26:37,641 --> 00:26:38,145
all today.

540
00:26:38,978 --> 00:26:42,481
Speaker 3: So that's why this to
me, I was pleasantly surprised

541
00:26:42,501 --> 00:26:52,222
for a 25 or more year old movie
27, that's older than my

542
00:26:52,262 --> 00:26:52,624
students.

543
00:26:52,624 --> 00:26:53,185
That's crazy.

544
00:26:53,185 --> 00:26:56,694
It looks better than Minecraft.

545
00:26:56,694 --> 00:26:57,363
Sorry, had to take a shot.

546
00:26:57,363 --> 00:26:57,590
Minecraft was purposeful.

547
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:57,773
Though it's crazy, you know
it's actually.

548
00:26:57,773 --> 00:26:59,840
It looks better than Minecraft,
sorry, I had to take a shot.

549
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,681
Minecraft was purposeful though
, I know, but let's not get into

550
00:27:03,681 --> 00:27:03,861
that.

551
00:27:03,861 --> 00:27:04,455
That could be.

552
00:27:04,455 --> 00:27:05,903
That's a whole other episode,
gentlemen.

553
00:27:06,595 --> 00:27:08,438
Speaker 2: That could be but you
know, have you guys seen the

554
00:27:08,478 --> 00:27:10,440
Minecraft movie, or a Minecraft
movie, whatever?

555
00:27:10,461 --> 00:27:10,842
Speaker 3: it's called.

556
00:27:10,842 --> 00:27:12,077
I'm politically opposed.

557
00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:13,522
Speaker 1: I actually did, I
actually did.

558
00:27:21,414 --> 00:27:21,876
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I actually
did.

559
00:27:21,876 --> 00:27:22,779
Oh boy, you didn't bring it up.

560
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:24,766
Speaker 1: I forgot, we don't
have to say anything else, guys.

561
00:27:24,766 --> 00:27:25,509
We don't have to say anything
more.

562
00:27:25,509 --> 00:27:27,193
Well, honestly, tell you truth,
like I mean you might not like

563
00:27:27,273 --> 00:27:31,381
it, but like Dakota and I were
like really big into it before

564
00:27:31,421 --> 00:27:35,847
it blew up actually yeah, we, we
were playing the beta before.

565
00:27:35,948 --> 00:27:36,949
Speaker 2: It was like a.

566
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:39,935
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like.

567
00:27:39,935 --> 00:27:41,421
I would say like I think what?

568
00:27:41,421 --> 00:27:43,307
2012, 2013?

569
00:27:43,307 --> 00:27:46,558
, like around there is, when it
blew up, we were playing this

570
00:27:46,578 --> 00:27:47,826
like back in, like 2010.

571
00:27:47,826 --> 00:27:49,153
I'm going to put it this way
yeah, that was.

572
00:27:49,856 --> 00:27:51,824
Speaker 3: Did you guys grow up
with Polaroid cameras?

573
00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:53,701
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were
around, yeah.

574
00:27:53,994 --> 00:27:55,300
Speaker 2: Like people would use
them.

575
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:56,506
Yes, but they weren't popular.

576
00:27:56,586 --> 00:27:57,686
Speaker 3: They they're around,
yeah, like people, yes, but they

577
00:27:57,686 --> 00:27:59,067
weren't popular they weren't,
so they were very I'm a little

578
00:27:59,087 --> 00:27:59,307
bit older.

579
00:27:59,307 --> 00:28:01,148
They were very popular, right,
my grandfather, I mean, that's

580
00:28:01,308 --> 00:28:03,891
all we used, basically, all
right, I was gonna say I'm

581
00:28:03,931 --> 00:28:06,655
pretty sure it's older than you,
yeah, it's older than me, but

582
00:28:06,675 --> 00:28:10,848
that was that was our prime,
like like photography method,

583
00:28:11,109 --> 00:28:14,859
and I, you know, when I got
something better, I was like wow

584
00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:18,087
, this is so much like I would
never, why would I ever go back?

585
00:28:18,275 --> 00:28:21,403
and now my students walk in with
polaroids, you know, and

586
00:28:21,423 --> 00:28:22,747
they're like oh, isn't this so
cool?

587
00:28:22,747 --> 00:28:25,361
And they're waving it and the
quality is terrible, you know,

588
00:28:25,402 --> 00:28:28,878
like because they've got these
terrible ones, and that's kind

589
00:28:28,898 --> 00:28:28,939
of.

590
00:28:28,939 --> 00:28:31,204
Oh yeah, it's just like the
five dollar polaroid cameras,

591
00:28:31,224 --> 00:28:33,938
yeah, and that's kind of how I
feel and I don't want to insult

592
00:28:33,998 --> 00:28:34,238
more.

593
00:28:34,238 --> 00:28:36,301
But that's how I feel about
Minecraft, because for me the

594
00:28:36,402 --> 00:28:38,285
style harkens back to what.

595
00:28:38,285 --> 00:28:40,730
I didn't have a choice, so I
don't want to return to the

596
00:28:40,769 --> 00:28:40,970
choice.

597
00:28:41,536 --> 00:28:44,701
Speaker 1: So for me it's like
okay, you know, playing Atari

598
00:28:45,263 --> 00:28:48,397
was was rough man there's
actually some really good, you

599
00:28:48,417 --> 00:28:50,711
know, and I'm and I'm gonna
leave it at this because we got

600
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,340
to get back to the movie but
there's some really good indie

601
00:28:54,382 --> 00:28:59,573
video games that like tap into
that retro vibe that like you're

602
00:28:59,573 --> 00:29:01,037
completely missing out on.

603
00:29:01,037 --> 00:29:03,584
If you don't like that vibe,
I'm telling you there's a lot of

604
00:29:03,584 --> 00:29:07,143
really good ones, like cuphead,
cuphead, dude.

605
00:29:07,143 --> 00:29:08,125
Cuphead's really good.

606
00:29:08,125 --> 00:29:09,549
Well, there's cuphead.

607
00:29:09,549 --> 00:29:12,778
You also have octopath traveler
, which is really good.

608
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,909
Speaker 3: There's a lot stardew
yeah, stardew, stardew is

609
00:29:16,929 --> 00:29:20,136
really good just like the thing
is hollow night, the just how

610
00:29:20,237 --> 00:29:23,765
sticks said you know, and mr
roboto, my dude, I believe the

611
00:29:23,805 --> 00:29:27,018
line is I am the modern man and
that's all I've got.

612
00:29:27,018 --> 00:29:30,586
But uh, you know, speaking of
of going back in time and using

613
00:29:30,646 --> 00:29:33,442
things like papyrus, I don't
know, I thought the beginning of

614
00:29:33,442 --> 00:29:35,326
the movie kind of threw me off
a little bit.

615
00:29:35,326 --> 00:29:38,821
It actually made me pause and
go to like go and read websites,

616
00:29:38,821 --> 00:29:41,587
because there was no mention.

617
00:29:41,587 --> 00:29:46,558
Before moses is sent down the
river, you see the soldiers

618
00:29:46,638 --> 00:29:50,807
moving in the background oh, but
for a formative movie right for

619
00:29:50,807 --> 00:29:52,096
a children's movie right.

620
00:29:52,777 --> 00:29:57,304
there was no like decree, like
heard like firstborn.

621
00:29:57,304 --> 00:30:01,309
You know, son, you know Hebrew
boys will be killed because yes,

622
00:30:01,309 --> 00:30:03,583
I sat there and I went why is
she sending them away?

623
00:30:03,974 --> 00:30:06,642
And, like I know, I was kind of
naive in the moment, but I was

624
00:30:06,701 --> 00:30:10,380
like her two other kids are fine
, why is she only sending this

625
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:10,862
one away?

626
00:30:10,862 --> 00:30:15,202
I was really kind of thrown off
for a second because I

627
00:30:15,343 --> 00:30:19,395
remembered it in my head that I
knew the announcement was made,

628
00:30:19,455 --> 00:30:22,044
so that's why they did this
right, or that's why she had to

629
00:30:22,084 --> 00:30:23,297
make this decision right.

630
00:30:23,297 --> 00:30:24,641
And then it doesn't get.

631
00:30:24,641 --> 00:30:28,512
You know, we find out later,
obviously, but in the moment,

632
00:30:28,913 --> 00:30:31,740
especially because that's the
most screen time the mom gets,

633
00:30:32,301 --> 00:30:36,198
you figure, it's just like I'm,
all I see is her running away

634
00:30:36,317 --> 00:30:39,018
and then just sending one of her
kids down the river and that's

635
00:30:39,117 --> 00:30:39,198
it.

636
00:30:39,198 --> 00:30:41,664
So I, you know, I went to
catholic school and everything

637
00:30:41,684 --> 00:30:44,740
growing up, so I was wait a
minute, I'm like I've heard this

638
00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:47,875
story before like this isn't
right, you know, and I think the

639
00:30:47,875 --> 00:30:51,423
liberties they took were just
difficult for me because I,

640
00:30:52,026 --> 00:30:52,887
because you know the story.

641
00:30:52,928 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: So well and yeah, I,
I'm also in the same boat where

642
00:30:56,020 --> 00:31:00,657
the account is very clear After
she, you know, sends him into

643
00:31:00,678 --> 00:31:02,481
the river and is found by
Pharaoh's daughter.

644
00:31:02,481 --> 00:31:07,303
She's raised by Pharaoh's
daughter, but Miriam Moses's

645
00:31:07,663 --> 00:31:11,714
sister kind of tricks Pharaoh's
daughter into you know, calling

646
00:31:12,296 --> 00:31:14,599
for you know, like a wet nurse.

647
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,186
And that wet nurse nurse, quote
unquote is actually moses's

648
00:31:18,228 --> 00:31:18,729
real mother.

649
00:31:18,729 --> 00:31:23,267
So moses's real mother raises
moses as the son of the daughter

650
00:31:23,267 --> 00:31:23,728
of pharaoh.

651
00:31:24,529 --> 00:31:27,176
Speaker 3: so she should have
been in the movie more, yeah

652
00:31:27,959 --> 00:31:31,287
yeah, and that kind of that
threw me off because it gave me

653
00:31:31,346 --> 00:31:31,567
this.

654
00:31:31,567 --> 00:31:36,365
I was just like why is she, you
know, doing all this?

655
00:31:36,365 --> 00:31:39,355
And then that's it, and then we
don't see her ever, and that

656
00:31:39,395 --> 00:31:40,037
was a little.

657
00:31:40,037 --> 00:31:44,284
And then that also creates the
moment later in the movie where

658
00:31:44,804 --> 00:31:48,049
Moses had completely no idea and
he ran.

659
00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:50,076
And it just look.

660
00:31:50,076 --> 00:31:53,005
I'm going to say this about any
time I read a book before I

661
00:31:53,045 --> 00:31:53,626
watch a movie.

662
00:31:53,626 --> 00:31:56,541
The way I saw it in my head is
the way it's.

663
00:31:56,541 --> 00:31:59,657
That's the canon, all right,
and if you change it.

664
00:31:59,657 --> 00:32:01,502
I'm going to be disgruntled.

665
00:32:02,104 --> 00:32:02,585
Speaker 2: I like that.

666
00:32:02,585 --> 00:32:04,888
I like that a lot and I feel
the same way.

667
00:32:04,888 --> 00:32:10,358
Actually, I think, because I
wasn't so critical of the

668
00:32:10,398 --> 00:32:14,103
adaptive qualities when I was a
kid I look over everything like

669
00:32:14,123 --> 00:32:14,304
that.

670
00:32:14,304 --> 00:32:21,182
But you know, as an adult who
has you know, like over

671
00:32:21,071 --> 00:32:23,027
everything like that, but you
know, as an adult who has, you

672
00:32:22,914 --> 00:32:23,912
know, like, obviously, read this
account, it's, it's a little

673
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,088
bit harder to swallow and, yeah,
it's, it's not up there with

674
00:32:27,130 --> 00:32:29,991
the most like faithful biblical
adaptations out there.

675
00:32:31,055 --> 00:32:36,132
But like, for instance, he finds
out, like it they said they set

676
00:32:36,132 --> 00:32:39,199
this all into motion so that he
can have this dramatic reveal

677
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:44,188
that he isn't actually Egyptian
but one of the Hebrews, one of

678
00:32:44,208 --> 00:32:48,300
the slaves, and that sets him on
a path that eventually leads

679
00:32:48,361 --> 00:32:52,568
him to, you know, killing one of
the enforcers who's whipping a

680
00:32:52,608 --> 00:32:54,178
Hebrew slave In the movie.

681
00:32:54,178 --> 00:32:54,720
That makes sense.

682
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,976
Slave in the movie, that makes
sense.

683
00:33:00,976 --> 00:33:02,259
But in the reality of the, the
story that's told in exodus, he

684
00:33:02,278 --> 00:33:05,224
knew he was a hebrew growing up
it says that he was, you know,

685
00:33:05,345 --> 00:33:07,336
sympathetic to the cause of the
slaves.

686
00:33:07,336 --> 00:33:10,626
Like that was part of his
personality, you know.

687
00:33:10,626 --> 00:33:14,617
But yeah, if we're gonna be
like really critical about every

688
00:33:14,617 --> 00:33:16,823
single thing that they changed.

689
00:33:16,823 --> 00:33:20,699
We'd be talking for like two
hours, but yeah yeah man,

690
00:33:20,719 --> 00:33:22,462
anthony, what a good old your
thoughts on?

691
00:33:22,923 --> 00:33:26,959
what are your thoughts on the
like changes like that?

692
00:33:26,959 --> 00:33:27,840
Do you mind as much?

693
00:33:28,442 --> 00:33:31,387
Speaker 1: I mean you don't like
you know growing up and and

694
00:33:31,448 --> 00:33:35,722
reading the and and like knowing
the story you know, yeah, it

695
00:33:35,762 --> 00:33:41,278
hits you with, hey, that's not
right, but from an entertainment

696
00:33:41,278 --> 00:33:47,509
perspective not all the changes
were bad.

697
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:54,117
I mean, I guess depending on
who you ask, it can be bad, but

698
00:33:54,679 --> 00:33:57,326
I guess for the movie purposes
it wasn't bad.

699
00:33:59,634 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: It gets most of the
beats right, right, that's what

700
00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:02,540
that's.

701
00:34:02,761 --> 00:34:04,766
Speaker 2: That's where I kind
of fall with it.

702
00:34:04,766 --> 00:34:08,844
Like, at the end of the day,
moses does get the people out of

703
00:34:08,844 --> 00:34:10,570
egypt, like that's right, right
, right.

704
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: I think, like some of
the like major things that

705
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,244
happen, you know, like the
burning bush.

706
00:34:16,244 --> 00:34:19,936
Yeah, you know, the brush is
actually that's a fantastic

707
00:34:19,976 --> 00:34:22,302
scene yeah, it gives me chills
every time I watch it.

708
00:34:22,342 --> 00:34:24,617
Speaker 2: You know, take your
sandals off, you're standing on

709
00:34:24,637 --> 00:34:24,998
holy ground.

710
00:34:24,998 --> 00:34:25,661
That's so good.

711
00:34:25,661 --> 00:34:29,396
And now that I know that val
kilmer was talking to himself in

712
00:34:29,396 --> 00:34:32,440
that scene, it just kind of
elevates that performance even

713
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:33,900
more.

714
00:34:33,961 --> 00:34:39,088
Speaker 1: He's in a sound booth
doing both parts and that he's

715
00:34:39,128 --> 00:34:40,369
like all right he had two.

716
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:44,621
He had two mics and he had to
like run back and forth one had

717
00:34:44,641 --> 00:34:46,746
a little bit more reverb so yeah

718
00:34:46,925 --> 00:34:47,648
Speaker 3: like what I?

719
00:34:47,648 --> 00:34:51,018
I just, and I'm sure there's
there's a way to find out right,

720
00:34:51,018 --> 00:34:56,625
but you have so many different
actors like big name actors for

721
00:34:56,644 --> 00:35:02,577
this movie and val kilmer gets
two roles like I, I, somebody

722
00:35:02,657 --> 00:35:04,681
else, it could have been a nice
little easter egg.

723
00:35:04,681 --> 00:35:08,139
Or I mean like maybe mr feeney
you know he had, just he wasn't

724
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,628
mr feeney yet you know he had
finished night writer.

725
00:35:10,628 --> 00:35:13,759
Uh, that would have been, I
don't know, I just it's a weird,

726
00:35:13,759 --> 00:35:17,847
unless like that was in the
contract, why would he get both?

727
00:35:18,795 --> 00:35:20,322
Speaker 2: Maybe he really liked
this story.

728
00:35:20,322 --> 00:35:22,402
I don't know, maybe he was just
like I got to get.

729
00:35:22,402 --> 00:35:26,320
Maybe he signed on for Moses
and you know, while in the

730
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,496
recording booth you know he like
did a couple lines and they're

731
00:35:28,516 --> 00:35:32,259
like, oh, I kind of like that
it's also, it's not really

732
00:35:32,398 --> 00:35:36,989
uncommon for somebody to get
multiple roles in an animation.

733
00:35:39,795 --> 00:35:40,938
Speaker 1: And the thing is is,
is that like so, something that

734
00:35:40,958 --> 00:35:41,518
dakota said earlier?

735
00:35:41,518 --> 00:35:45,186
Why would you hire this whole
other person to speak a few

736
00:35:45,246 --> 00:35:46,215
lines in a movie?

737
00:35:46,215 --> 00:35:50,965
You know so, like they already
had like a cast set.

738
00:35:50,965 --> 00:35:53,996
I mean, it could have been
somebody else within the cast,

739
00:35:54,016 --> 00:35:58,925
yeah, of course, but they
decided to go with val kilmer.

740
00:35:58,925 --> 00:36:03,121
But yeah, like I, I, I don't
think that you know they're

741
00:36:03,181 --> 00:36:03,442
somebody.

742
00:36:03,442 --> 00:36:06,556
Getting a double role in the
movie was was a bad thing.

743
00:36:06,556 --> 00:36:08,563
I mean, I see it all the time.

744
00:36:08,563 --> 00:36:10,126
Video games do it.

745
00:36:10,126 --> 00:36:10,989
Anime, definitely.

746
00:36:10,989 --> 00:36:12,996
Yeah, anime, oh my gosh, dude,
anime.

747
00:36:12,996 --> 00:36:16,641
If you look at some of these
credits in an anime, like you

748
00:36:16,681 --> 00:36:19,927
know some of the people they'll
have credit for voicing like

749
00:36:20,228 --> 00:36:21,769
five people, dude, it's crazy.

750
00:36:21,769 --> 00:36:26,123
But dude, you knew that the
voice of God was Val Kilmer, but

751
00:36:26,123 --> 00:36:29,862
you didn't know that it was
Moses, so he did a good enough

752
00:36:29,922 --> 00:36:31,851
performance to separate himself.

753
00:36:32,052 --> 00:36:32,954
Speaker 2: They're definitely
separate.

754
00:36:33,034 --> 00:36:35,516
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly,
exactly so.

755
00:36:35,516 --> 00:36:37,163
I think he did a great job.

756
00:36:38,494 --> 00:36:39,336
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he killed
it Exactly, so.

757
00:36:39,336 --> 00:36:40,099
So I mean, I think he did a
great job.

758
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he he
killed it.

759
00:36:40,659 --> 00:36:43,085
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, and
I think Moses is uh.

760
00:36:43,085 --> 00:36:49,465
What's what's funny, like if,
if they had chosen to go like a

761
00:36:49,565 --> 00:36:53,280
more biblically accurate route,
I don't think they would have

762
00:36:53,340 --> 00:37:03,097
chosen Jeff Goldblum for Aaron
they would have chosen Jeff

763
00:37:03,117 --> 00:37:04,280
Goldblum for Aaron dude you can
hear that it's him.

764
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:05,342
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very much so
his voice.

765
00:37:05,342 --> 00:37:05,563
It's crazy.

766
00:37:05,563 --> 00:37:07,166
I remember like hearing that I
was like wait.

767
00:37:07,166 --> 00:37:09,215
I said is that who I think it
is.

768
00:37:09,215 --> 00:37:12,498
And then I looked it up and I
was like, yep, that's absolutely

769
00:37:12,498 --> 00:37:14,139
him yep, yeah.

770
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,463
Speaker 2: So so the actual
account whenever Moses is

771
00:37:19,543 --> 00:37:24,007
speaking to Pharaoh, it's never
actually Moses speaking to

772
00:37:24,088 --> 00:37:28,771
Pharaoh, because Moses claimed
that he had a speech impediment.

773
00:37:28,771 --> 00:37:31,460
So at the burning bush scene in
the Bible, he's just like but

774
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,382
I'm not very articulate, I don't
speak.

775
00:37:32,382 --> 00:37:33,965
Well, god's like I'm bringing
Aaron over and he's going to,

776
00:37:34,186 --> 00:37:36,572
but I'm not very articulate, I I
don't speak.

777
00:37:36,572 --> 00:37:40,724
Well, god's like I'm bringing
aaron over and he's gonna be

778
00:37:40,764 --> 00:37:41,989
your mouthpiece, basically.

779
00:37:41,989 --> 00:37:44,657
So he's actually the one who
speaks to pharaoh every time.

780
00:37:45,260 --> 00:37:47,746
Speaker 1: So having jeff
goldblum be like, yeah, you're,

781
00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:51,498
you're gonna let let the people
go um, probably wouldn't have

782
00:37:51,518 --> 00:37:58,387
worked, dude that like he was
like the most like, like he

783
00:37:58,447 --> 00:38:02,217
stuck out like a sore thumb,
like as far as voices dude oh

784
00:38:02,237 --> 00:38:05,445
yeah, he never sounds not like
jeff goldblum, like it's the

785
00:38:05,505 --> 00:38:11,043
most distinct voice like, but it
was good to it was.

786
00:38:11,043 --> 00:38:14,369
It's always fun to like hear
him like patrick stewart did

787
00:38:14,409 --> 00:38:17,409
well enough to not sound like
himself at least to me.

788
00:38:17,650 --> 00:38:20,380
Speaker 2: I don't think I
picked it up until I recognized,

789
00:38:20,380 --> 00:38:24,291
I recognized the voice, I just
could not oh he, I, I don't know

790
00:38:24,291 --> 00:38:26,155
, I, I absolutely love him.

791
00:38:26,677 --> 00:38:28,842
Speaker 3: I mean, I've heard
his voice in so many different

792
00:38:28,882 --> 00:38:30,606
roles that that's what he was
the guy.

793
00:38:30,606 --> 00:38:33,746
He was the impetus for me to
stop and check out the voice

794
00:38:33,786 --> 00:38:37,418
cast, because once I heard my
man, patrick stewart, I was like

795
00:38:37,418 --> 00:38:39,605
, okay, that's my captain,
jean-luc Picard.

796
00:38:39,605 --> 00:38:43,041
I mean, I watched a lot of Next
Generation.

797
00:38:43,621 --> 00:38:45,545
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one
scene that's Spaceballs right,

798
00:38:46,186 --> 00:38:46,887
what that's?

799
00:38:46,927 --> 00:38:47,730
Speaker 1: Spaceballs right.

800
00:38:51,056 --> 00:38:52,099
Speaker 3: Oh, you're pulling my
leg.

801
00:38:52,099 --> 00:38:53,722
You're pulling my leg.

802
00:38:53,742 --> 00:38:55,407
Speaker 2: You guys are
listening.

803
00:38:55,407 --> 00:38:57,679
Oh man, you should have seen
Rich's face, guys.

804
00:38:57,679 --> 00:38:59,806
He was looking at the camera
like are you kidding me?

805
00:39:00,034 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I
was going to do.

806
00:39:01,954 --> 00:39:04,382
Speaker 1: He was looking like
he needed somebody to snap a

807
00:39:04,402 --> 00:39:05,065
Muslim gym.

808
00:39:05,835 --> 00:39:07,702
Speaker 2: Yeah we should
actually do Spaceballs at some

809
00:39:07,722 --> 00:39:07,922
point.

810
00:39:07,922 --> 00:39:09,260
That's actually a really fun
movie.

811
00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:09,882
Yeah, it is.

812
00:39:10,454 --> 00:39:14,701
Speaker 1: It was actually one
of the decent parodies, yeah,

813
00:39:16,414 --> 00:39:21,670
but yeah, man, this there was a
fair bit of musical numbers, but

814
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:27,699
it wasn't over the top where it
felt like it was a straight up

815
00:39:27,739 --> 00:39:28,139
musical.

816
00:39:28,139 --> 00:39:34,630
I felt like the musical numbers
were well placed and they

817
00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:35,072
really drove.

818
00:39:35,072 --> 00:39:40,416
Some of them were lighthearted
and some of them were very

819
00:39:40,476 --> 00:39:43,719
dramatic and I felt like they
were great.

820
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,434
The musical numbers were all
like really good well, that's

821
00:39:47,454 --> 00:39:48,137
the thing too.

822
00:39:48,358 --> 00:39:50,706
Speaker 2: Like with the, with
the musical numbers, they drove

823
00:39:50,786 --> 00:39:51,708
the plot forward.

824
00:39:51,708 --> 00:39:56,157
Yeah, whenever, whenever it was
a musical scene, they express a

825
00:39:56,157 --> 00:39:59,510
jump in the story, they kind of
bridge gaps, except for the

826
00:39:59,550 --> 00:40:02,829
scene where they're leaving
egypt, like that was, you know,

827
00:40:02,869 --> 00:40:06,048
like very intentionally, like in
the moment yeah, but most of

828
00:40:06,108 --> 00:40:10,746
the musical scenes that happen
showcase time moving on you know

829
00:40:10,746 --> 00:40:11,588
, like there's there's.

830
00:40:11,768 --> 00:40:14,556
There's a song the plagues that
happened over a long period of

831
00:40:14,596 --> 00:40:18,572
time, you know in the actual
book of exodus, but in the movie

832
00:40:18,572 --> 00:40:20,797
that's a five or like a four
minute scene.

833
00:40:20,945 --> 00:40:23,753
You know like they kind of
encapsulate that into like four

834
00:40:23,813 --> 00:40:27,342
minutes through song and even
like the beginning where, like

835
00:40:27,583 --> 00:40:30,891
rich, you were saying that you
were having trouble following or

836
00:40:30,891 --> 00:40:34,306
you didn't understand the
decree, they do, like you said,

837
00:40:34,405 --> 00:40:36,612
you have the soldiers running in
the background in that scene,

838
00:40:36,632 --> 00:40:40,552
you know, like trying to find
young hebrew boys, basically.

839
00:40:40,552 --> 00:40:44,864
But you know, if you you're
rewatching that with you know

840
00:40:44,925 --> 00:40:46,768
like looking for those things,
you'll find it.

841
00:40:46,768 --> 00:40:50,878
You'll find that kind of stuff
hidden in that song number,

842
00:40:51,005 --> 00:40:54,070
basically, and it does inch you
into the story.

843
00:40:54,070 --> 00:40:58,405
But, like, if you take other
movies, like, I think, frozen,

844
00:40:59,047 --> 00:41:02,735
when it's a musical number in
Frozen, I'm thinking like let it

845
00:41:02,735 --> 00:41:06,650
go, they pause the movie so
that Elsa can sing, let it go.

846
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:08,653
Like it breaks the movie up.

847
00:41:08,653 --> 00:41:12,150
You know it's not a narrative
song that moves the story

848
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:14,940
forward, it's a pause in the
movie so that Elsa can sing,

849
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:18,367
versus this movie which is all
narrative, driven like songs,

850
00:41:18,527 --> 00:41:20,871
and I think that works so well
and it makes it not feel like a

851
00:41:20,931 --> 00:41:21,271
musical.

852
00:41:21,831 --> 00:41:24,434
Speaker 1: Right, right, right,
like so you're.

853
00:41:24,434 --> 00:41:26,538
You were talking about plagues
and how.

854
00:41:26,538 --> 00:41:29,967
That is like showcasing
something that happens over a

855
00:41:30,007 --> 00:41:34,021
period of time and I think that
they do well in showing that it.

856
00:41:34,021 --> 00:41:37,733
It is something that's
happening over time, just like

857
00:41:37,893 --> 00:41:41,405
you know, condensed for the song
, like you know the drought and

858
00:41:41,425 --> 00:41:45,606
the famine, and it showed, like
you, you know, you can tell,

859
00:41:45,706 --> 00:41:47,773
especially like watching it was
like yeah, this is something

860
00:41:47,793 --> 00:41:48,835
that's happening over time.

861
00:41:48,835 --> 00:41:52,432
This isn't something that's
happening, you know, in the span

862
00:41:52,432 --> 00:41:58,088
of a day or a couple days, you
know, and so there's that.

863
00:41:58,088 --> 00:42:01,592
And then, like the whole
development of his relationship

864
00:42:01,632 --> 00:42:06,699
with his wife, you know, moses,
you know from the from, from

865
00:42:06,739 --> 00:42:09,061
like the start up until they get
married.

866
00:42:09,061 --> 00:42:14,393
That drives the narrative of
you know them establishing that

867
00:42:14,432 --> 00:42:16,856
relationship up to the point to
where they get married.

868
00:42:16,856 --> 00:42:26,811
You're right, they do such a
good job at picking really good

869
00:42:26,851 --> 00:42:28,936
songs and really doing a lot
within those songs.

870
00:42:29,545 --> 00:42:31,693
Speaker 2: While I was looking
for where to stream this movie,

871
00:42:32,244 --> 00:42:37,208
I discovered that there's a
second movie in this vein that I

872
00:42:37,208 --> 00:42:38,172
had never even heard of.

873
00:42:38,172 --> 00:42:41,987
It was like a direct-to-DVD
sequel, but it's actually a

874
00:42:42,027 --> 00:42:43,293
prequel, because it's about
joseph.

875
00:42:43,333 --> 00:42:46,751
Speaker 1: It's called joseph
something, something dreams oh

876
00:42:46,831 --> 00:42:48,034
yeah, I've never heard of it.

877
00:42:48,355 --> 00:42:52,891
Speaker 2: I seen it long time
ago long time ago yeah, anyway,

878
00:42:53,431 --> 00:42:55,637
I was just like so surprised
that that movie even existed.

879
00:42:55,637 --> 00:43:00,853
And yeah, just a short aside,
speaking about the plagues, the

880
00:43:00,914 --> 00:43:03,199
first plague where he turns the
water into blood.

881
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:07,612
What a great scene oh my god,
like that's so.

882
00:43:07,612 --> 00:43:11,402
It's just such a powerful
moment, like just the staff

883
00:43:11,443 --> 00:43:15,231
going into the water and the way
that they visualize the slow,

884
00:43:15,512 --> 00:43:19,099
you know, spread of right it
turning into blood and how that

885
00:43:19,144 --> 00:43:20,768
affects the egyptians in the
water.

886
00:43:20,989 --> 00:43:23,313
Speaker 1: Super cool the way
they did that and it looks like

887
00:43:23,994 --> 00:43:27,701
actual, like, you know, like if
you were like blood in the water

888
00:43:27,701 --> 00:43:27,701
.

889
00:43:27,701 --> 00:43:30,306
It looked exactly like that
real effect.

890
00:43:30,365 --> 00:43:33,353
Speaker 2: It spreads like that
yeah if you go back to that

891
00:43:33,452 --> 00:43:38,230
scene when moses is standing in
the river, you can see that

892
00:43:38,331 --> 00:43:41,398
there's like a ring around him
of like normal water, yep, and

893
00:43:41,438 --> 00:43:43,027
then after that point it it's
red.

894
00:43:43,027 --> 00:43:45,208
That's such a cool little
detail.

895
00:43:45,449 --> 00:43:49,233
It's such a cool detail because
it didn't affect the Hebrews.

896
00:43:49,233 --> 00:43:52,838
This plague didn't affect the
Hebrews, so they had regular

897
00:43:52,858 --> 00:43:53,418
drinking water.

898
00:43:53,418 --> 00:43:54,601
The Egyptians did not.

899
00:43:54,601 --> 00:43:57,047
Thinking about that, that is
cool.

900
00:43:57,047 --> 00:43:59,855
When they do stuff like that in
this movie or other movies like

901
00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:04,393
it, this is a detail that you
don't need to have for the story

902
00:44:04,393 --> 00:44:08,201
to continue, but it just makes
it so much cooler.

903
00:44:08,201 --> 00:44:10,304
I don't know yeah, yeah.

904
00:44:10,925 --> 00:44:15,210
Speaker 1: Another scene that
like, really, like you know,

905
00:44:15,409 --> 00:44:19,034
really blew me away too was the
um parting of the red sea.

906
00:44:19,034 --> 00:44:26,581
That was insane, dude, and like
you know, like how massive both

907
00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:32,293
sides looked, you know, yeah um
, like a super stylized like

908
00:44:32,393 --> 00:44:34,416
wave, almost that doesn't crash.

909
00:44:35,358 --> 00:44:36,599
Speaker 2: Really, really cool
rich.

910
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:37,407
What do you think of that scene
?

911
00:44:37,648 --> 00:44:39,813
Speaker 3: that scene was the
second time that I paused the

912
00:44:39,853 --> 00:44:40,865
movie so that I could.

913
00:44:40,865 --> 00:44:43,130
I wanted to do a little
research, you know, and I was

914
00:44:43,150 --> 00:44:47,257
like, oh, okay, just delving
into different weird uh stuff.

915
00:44:47,257 --> 00:44:51,851
Just uh, you know, like the
interpretation that it was maybe

916
00:44:51,851 --> 00:44:56,387
sea of reeds and that you know
that isn't a yeah, so that's a

917
00:44:56,447 --> 00:44:57,130
possible you know.

918
00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:59,960
So that it's like because I
always like kind of

919
00:45:00,061 --> 00:45:05,429
recontextualizing stuff in that
way to kind of digest it

920
00:45:05,469 --> 00:45:08,992
differently, I would say, than
when I was a younger, when I was

921
00:45:08,992 --> 00:45:13,195
a wee lad listening to the
stories in school and at Sunday

922
00:45:13,235 --> 00:45:18,121
Mass in Spanish, which was that
much harder to suss out what I

923
00:45:18,161 --> 00:45:19,402
was really understanding.

924
00:45:19,402 --> 00:45:21,510
I'd be like wait a minute, did
that guy do this?

925
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:23,202
And the grandfather's like yep,
his, did that guy do this?

926
00:45:23,202 --> 00:45:26,692
And like grandfather's like yep
, his name's Job, we'll talk

927
00:45:26,731 --> 00:45:27,432
about him later.

928
00:45:28,034 --> 00:45:31,590
Speaker 2: So I uh for, for the,
for those listening who don't,

929
00:45:31,791 --> 00:45:34,137
who aren't following, with the
sea of reeds.

930
00:45:34,137 --> 00:45:39,932
There's a belief out there that
the red sea is a misnomer or

931
00:45:39,972 --> 00:45:43,639
mistranslation that has occurred
over the course of years and

932
00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:48,275
that it's the sea of reeds that
is most likely or you know that

933
00:45:48,476 --> 00:45:50,945
some people believe is most
likely to be the location where

934
00:45:51,005 --> 00:45:53,532
that could have happened or
would have happened.

935
00:45:53,532 --> 00:45:55,536
But yeah, it's a theory.

936
00:45:55,536 --> 00:45:58,471
I don't want to say yes or no,
or I don't know, I have no idea.

937
00:45:58,490 --> 00:45:59,653
Speaker 3: I've read one article
about it.

938
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:01,668
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was
watching the movie and I went

939
00:46:01,688 --> 00:46:02,048
back to it.

940
00:46:02,068 --> 00:46:02,369
Speaker 3: You you know.

941
00:46:02,791 --> 00:46:04,996
Speaker 2: It is a cool theory
and, like you said, it's cool to

942
00:46:04,996 --> 00:46:05,664
recontextualize certain things.

943
00:46:05,684 --> 00:46:09,559
Speaker 3: But obviously I'm
glad the movie did not go with

944
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,951
that kind of line of thinking
because the wall of water, and I

945
00:46:12,951 --> 00:46:16,451
mean it just, and then you know
, even with the visual play it

946
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:21,086
had, with the fire blocking the
Egyptians, you know that was a

947
00:46:21,168 --> 00:46:26,318
really, you know it was cool,
because I think it's really easy

948
00:46:26,318 --> 00:46:30,833
to mess that scene up, because
everybody watching I would

949
00:46:30,853 --> 00:46:34,548
assume almost everybody watching
this in my opinion knows that

950
00:46:34,588 --> 00:46:38,882
part right, like that's the part
that like if when I watched the

951
00:46:38,882 --> 00:46:43,172
ridley scott movie exodus, gods
and kings, and the sea just

952
00:46:43,271 --> 00:46:47,079
like dries up because it's just
like the low tide or whatever,

953
00:46:47,465 --> 00:46:50,114
that was the most disappointed
moment I think I've ever been in

954
00:46:50,114 --> 00:46:50,735
a movie theater.

955
00:46:50,804 --> 00:46:52,572
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh
come on.

956
00:46:52,572 --> 00:46:54,769
That's so lame.

957
00:46:54,769 --> 00:47:00,231
Yeah, show me the magic, show
me the miracles, dude, but yeah,

958
00:47:00,231 --> 00:47:00,954
this movie.

959
00:47:00,974 --> 00:47:02,791
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just
just gives you.

960
00:47:02,791 --> 00:47:08,387
Because I got lulled into all
right, they're leaving, and I

961
00:47:08,407 --> 00:47:12,025
was like I guess they're just
going to hit the impasse, but

962
00:47:12,065 --> 00:47:14,054
then he's going to split it, so
we're good.

963
00:47:14,054 --> 00:47:17,074
And then you have the Egyptians
coming over the hill.

964
00:47:18,548 --> 00:47:20,554
You see, Ramsey's head kind of
pokes up.

965
00:47:20,554 --> 00:47:23,490
And that's when you're like, oh
what?

966
00:47:23,490 --> 00:47:26,150
And that's why, like, the fire
was great too.

967
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:28,163
Because then you're like, oh,
wait a minute, there's no way

968
00:47:28,182 --> 00:47:29,467
they're going to get through
that fast.

969
00:47:29,467 --> 00:47:33,501
So they, they kind of thought
of everything there to really

970
00:47:33,581 --> 00:47:38,052
heighten the drama and then kind
of, you know, make everything

971
00:47:38,512 --> 00:47:42,039
believable in the world they had
already built.

972
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:45,206
Right, there was nothing there
that was extraordinary or

973
00:47:45,405 --> 00:47:48,753
unbelievable for what we've
already accepted can happen in

974
00:47:48,793 --> 00:47:52,126
this world totally yeah yeah,
that pillar of fire was.

975
00:47:52,387 --> 00:47:53,972
Speaker 1: That was actually
really cool they.

976
00:47:54,012 --> 00:47:55,615
Speaker 2: They did a really
cool job with that.

977
00:47:55,615 --> 00:47:56,324
Yeah for sure.

978
00:47:56,324 --> 00:47:59,670
Speaking about
recontextualizing, you know

979
00:47:59,771 --> 00:48:03,938
common knowledge, or like what
we perceive to know, about these

980
00:48:03,938 --> 00:48:04,400
stories.

981
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:11,217
A common thing for you know,
for people who want to, whether

982
00:48:11,257 --> 00:48:14,369
you believe in this story or not
, you know like there are

983
00:48:14,429 --> 00:48:18,257
certain things in history that
could tie this story to reality.

984
00:48:18,257 --> 00:48:23,108
And a common thing that, like
atheists and certain scholars,

985
00:48:23,188 --> 00:48:30,353
will try to suggest that,
because the Bible says that the

986
00:48:30,414 --> 00:48:34,757
Hebrews lived in the city of
Ramesses, this must mean that

987
00:48:35,418 --> 00:48:38,059
it's suggesting that they
existed during the reign of

988
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:38,940
Ramesses II.

989
00:48:39,059 --> 00:48:42,782
Ramesses the Great, basically,
who's like the most praised, or

990
00:48:42,802 --> 00:48:43,264
like most?

991
00:48:43,264 --> 00:48:48,432
He's the most popular pharaoh
in Egypt in terms of like the

992
00:48:48,472 --> 00:48:49,295
works that he created.

993
00:48:49,295 --> 00:48:52,387
So it's actually an anachronism
.

994
00:48:52,387 --> 00:48:55,632
So how do I explain this
without like stumbling over

995
00:48:55,652 --> 00:48:55,893
myself?

996
00:48:55,893 --> 00:48:59,505
So Ramesses he existed in the
19th dynasty.

997
00:49:00,067 --> 00:49:03,552
The story of Exodus dates itself
much earlier, a couple hundred

998
00:49:03,592 --> 00:49:07,438
years earlier, and that
obviously doesn't line up

999
00:49:08,298 --> 00:49:09,099
chronology-wise.

1000
00:49:09,099 --> 00:49:13,577
So if you're looking for proof
that the Israelites were a

1001
00:49:13,597 --> 00:49:16,592
people that existed in Ramesses,
like Ramesses the Great's Egypt

1002
00:49:16,592 --> 00:49:20,072
, you're not going to find that,
so you'd have to look elsewhere

1003
00:49:20,072 --> 00:49:20,072
.

1004
00:49:20,072 --> 00:49:23,394
It would have to be quite a bit
before Ramesses.

1005
00:49:23,394 --> 00:49:26,713
So, like there are certain
theories as to like what

1006
00:49:27,072 --> 00:49:30,150
pharaohs actually existed,
because the pharaoh itself isn't

1007
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:31,173
named in that account.

1008
00:49:31,173 --> 00:49:46,769
But we know that when it term
the city of Ramesses 400 years

1009
00:49:46,909 --> 00:49:51,273
earlier in Joseph's time, so he
can't have existed back then as

1010
00:49:51,373 --> 00:49:52,255
well, you know.

1011
00:49:52,826 --> 00:49:57,239
So most likely in the course of
hundreds of years of translating

1012
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,132
, it became known that that area
of the world became known as

1013
00:50:01,452 --> 00:50:05,518
Pyramuses, so they would just
say the city of Ramesses in

1014
00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:08,668
translations of the Bible, so
that people would know where

1015
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:12,358
exactly the Israelites were at
the time when they were in Egypt

1016
00:50:12,358 --> 00:50:12,358
.

1017
00:50:12,358 --> 00:50:17,054
So yeah, that idea that
Ramesses the Great is the

1018
00:50:18,097 --> 00:50:22,751
pharaoh of the book of Exodus is
just a complete misreading of

1019
00:50:22,791 --> 00:50:23,213
the text.

1020
00:50:23,213 --> 00:50:27,731
But there are a couple pharaohs
out there that if you

1021
00:50:27,891 --> 00:50:32,429
contextualize their story with
what happens in or after the

1022
00:50:32,469 --> 00:50:34,773
book of exodus, it does match up
pretty cool.

1023
00:50:34,773 --> 00:50:37,987
I don't know if you guys want
me to tell about those or or not

1024
00:50:37,987 --> 00:50:40,373
, but we can continue talking
about the Prince of Egypt.

1025
00:50:40,452 --> 00:50:41,173
Speaker 1: No, no, no, yeah.

1026
00:50:41,173 --> 00:50:46,032
Now I mean you can, you can,
you can like put it down because

1027
00:50:46,032 --> 00:50:49,492
I mean it's all like relevant,
because it ties back to the

1028
00:50:49,532 --> 00:50:52,148
story that this movie is based
off of.

1029
00:50:52,168 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like you
should do timeline so like this

1030
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:54,960
.

1031
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,849
You know you, you really kind
of.

1032
00:50:57,231 --> 00:51:05,306
Speaker 2: I might, I might
might have a timeline.

1033
00:51:05,306 --> 00:51:06,849
I think you have a knack for
this, okay, all right.

1034
00:51:06,849 --> 00:51:07,451
All right, so we'll start.

1035
00:51:07,451 --> 00:51:10,617
My two favorite theories are
pharaoh akhenaten of the 18th

1036
00:51:10,677 --> 00:51:16,849
dynasty and dudamos of the 14th
dynasty or 13th 13th dynasty.

1037
00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:21,057
Yeah, so let's start with
akhenaten, so it's a little bit

1038
00:51:21,117 --> 00:51:22,702
closer to Ramesses' time period.

1039
00:51:22,702 --> 00:51:28,733
His father or actually it would
be Amenhotep III would be the

1040
00:51:28,793 --> 00:51:31,119
pharaoh of Egypt in this telling
, basically.

1041
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:35,701
So Amenhotep III exists, the
story of Exodus happens and then

1042
00:51:35,701 --> 00:51:40,130
something strange happens in
the next pharaoh's run, where

1043
00:51:40,472 --> 00:51:45,186
Amenhotep IV changes his name to
Akhenaten and decides we're

1044
00:51:45,228 --> 00:51:48,961
only worshiping one god now, not
the 300 gods that we've had for

1045
00:51:48,961 --> 00:51:51,751
all of Egyptian history, but
we're going to serve a

1046
00:51:51,851 --> 00:51:53,114
monotheistic god now.

1047
00:51:53,114 --> 00:51:59,039
So the idea there is that there
was such religious and cultural

1048
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,032
upheaval because of what
happened to the Egyptians at the

1049
00:52:03,032 --> 00:52:07,153
time that the next pharaoh was
just like no, we got to worship

1050
00:52:07,253 --> 00:52:12,271
that god instead, and he's the
only pharaoh in all of Egyptian

1051
00:52:12,351 --> 00:52:14,577
history that is a monotheist.

1052
00:52:14,577 --> 00:52:18,164
But it's not necessarily the
Hebrew god he's worshiping.

1053
00:52:18,164 --> 00:52:21,894
He's worshiping the Egyptian
sun, god Aten, as the one and

1054
00:52:21,976 --> 00:52:22,376
only god.

1055
00:52:22,376 --> 00:52:26,929
So that's a theory I don't know
if I buy it the one that makes

1056
00:52:26,989 --> 00:52:32,974
the most sense to me is Deutemos
, so for him this one's pretty

1057
00:52:32,994 --> 00:52:33,175
cool.

1058
00:52:33,664 --> 00:52:36,753
There's a Jewish historian that
existed around the time of

1059
00:52:36,934 --> 00:52:41,894
Jesus' day who quoted an
Egyptian historian from a couple

1060
00:52:41,894 --> 00:52:43,478
hundred years earlier named
Manethos.

1061
00:52:43,478 --> 00:52:46,989
So Josephus is the Jewish
historian he quotes, manethos.

1062
00:52:46,989 --> 00:52:51,248
Manethos is a historian of
Egypt and he basically said that

1063
00:52:51,248 --> 00:52:54,056
in Deutermos' reign, pharaoh
Deutermos or he called him

1064
00:52:54,125 --> 00:52:54,666
Thutmose.

1065
00:52:54,666 --> 00:53:01,197
He says in Thutmose's rule, god
smote him or God blasted him

1066
00:53:01,797 --> 00:53:03,570
and sent him into ruin.

1067
00:53:03,570 --> 00:53:06,867
And then, after that point,
other nations raided egypt

1068
00:53:07,007 --> 00:53:10,213
because there was a power vacuum
and that basically started.

1069
00:53:10,213 --> 00:53:14,110
That was the end of the middle
kingdom and the start of the

1070
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:16,797
second inter intermediate,
something like that.

1071
00:53:16,797 --> 00:53:19,030
Yeah, the second intermediate
period where basically, like,

1072
00:53:19,512 --> 00:53:22,329
there was a period of time where
, like, egypt was broken, they

1073
00:53:22,369 --> 00:53:23,976
were just completely broke for,
you know, a short period of time

1074
00:53:23,976 --> 00:53:25,320
where, like, egypt was broken,
they were just completely broke

1075
00:53:25,342 --> 00:53:27,728
for a short period of time
before the new kingdom popped up

1076
00:53:27,728 --> 00:53:30,016
and Egypt got on its feet again
.

1077
00:53:30,527 --> 00:53:34,641
So the theory there is that that
quote from the Egyptian

1078
00:53:34,681 --> 00:53:39,545
historian Manathos is basically
saying that you know, this

1079
00:53:39,806 --> 00:53:44,826
singular God brought Egypt down
in this guy's reign and

1080
00:53:45,047 --> 00:53:49,748
afterwards other nations
basically raided Egypt because

1081
00:53:50,048 --> 00:53:51,534
they were very easy to raid.

1082
00:53:51,534 --> 00:53:53,271
At that point they had no
workforce.

1083
00:53:53,271 --> 00:53:56,425
So it's a cool theory.

1084
00:53:56,425 --> 00:54:00,170
It lines up better, like that
would be the closest

1085
00:54:00,831 --> 00:54:04,208
chronologically to what the
Bible says, or what Exodus says,

1086
00:54:04,208 --> 00:54:08,268
is the timeline of that event,
and I think it's only like 50 or

1087
00:54:08,268 --> 00:54:10,735
60 years off the mark, maybe a
little more than that.

1088
00:54:10,735 --> 00:54:12,570
So it's a possibility.

1089
00:54:12,570 --> 00:54:15,753
But anyway, I'm going to stop
talking now because I'm going

1090
00:54:15,873 --> 00:54:16,335
crazy here.

1091
00:54:16,335 --> 00:54:19,211
But yeah, were you guys able to
keep up with that?

1092
00:54:19,211 --> 00:54:20,253
I don't know if that made any
sense.

1093
00:54:20,614 --> 00:54:23,545
Speaker 1: No, no, no, like,
keep up with that.

1094
00:54:23,545 --> 00:54:24,288
I don't know if that made any
sense.

1095
00:54:24,288 --> 00:54:24,668
Totally no, no, no.

1096
00:54:24,668 --> 00:54:25,831
Yeah, like I understood that
that, like you were, you know

1097
00:54:25,871 --> 00:54:29,079
that there's a lot of like
theories out there and that you

1098
00:54:29,139 --> 00:54:31,829
know one kind of lines up with
the other.

1099
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:36,298
You know that that's the crazy
thing about like things that are

1100
00:54:36,298 --> 00:54:41,635
not, I guess, like heavily
documented, so like a lot of

1101
00:54:41,715 --> 00:54:44,740
it's just speculation at this
point correct.

1102
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,608
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like
dudamos, the one that I believe

1103
00:54:47,668 --> 00:54:51,641
is closest to the pharaoh of the
egyptian, or like the exodus

1104
00:54:51,681 --> 00:54:55,431
account, very little is known
about his reign outside of what

1105
00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:59,286
that egyptian historian,
manethos, from like 2 bce, had

1106
00:54:59,306 --> 00:54:59,867
to say about him.

1107
00:54:59,947 --> 00:55:03,574
Speaker 1: That's such a cool
name, though, dudamos dudamos

1108
00:55:03,855 --> 00:55:07,467
d-u-d-i-m-o-s-e yeah, man he's.

1109
00:55:07,608 --> 00:55:11,956
Speaker 2: He was a dude he was
a dude who did not let people go

1110
00:55:11,956 --> 00:55:11,956
.

1111
00:55:11,956 --> 00:55:14,025
Maybe all right, let's jump
back into the movie.

1112
00:55:14,025 --> 00:55:17,777
Did you guys have any other
thoughts about anything?

1113
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,809
Speaker 3: I thought it was
going to be more like disney.

1114
00:55:21,809 --> 00:55:25,818
I guess I was expecting a
little bit more jazzy numbers at

1115
00:55:25,818 --> 00:55:29,014
first, so like they, were
really well done and powerful.

1116
00:55:29,304 --> 00:55:30,690
Speaker 2: There is a jazzy
number.

1117
00:55:31,132 --> 00:55:33,648
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one,
but I was, you know.

1118
00:55:33,648 --> 00:55:37,733
Look, I, growing up, I watched
a lot of the Disney movies over

1119
00:55:37,753 --> 00:55:39,335
and over again, because that was
always like.

1120
00:55:39,335 --> 00:55:43,019
You know, I have a sister who's
a year younger than me, so she

1121
00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:44,141
you know we would have to trade
off.

1122
00:55:44,181 --> 00:55:45,260
Speaker 2: Like you know, I have
a sister who's a year younger

1123
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:45,541
than me.

1124
00:55:45,561 --> 00:55:46,762
Speaker 3: So she, you know we
would, oh yeah, we would have to

1125
00:55:46,762 --> 00:55:47,202
trade off, you know.

1126
00:55:47,202 --> 00:55:49,402
So I wanted to watch batman 89
but I had to go watch, you know,

1127
00:55:49,402 --> 00:55:51,802
lion king again, or little
mermaid or whatever.

1128
00:55:51,802 --> 00:55:55,893
So you know, aladdin is one of
my favorites and part of it is

1129
00:55:55,952 --> 00:55:59,105
that the music was fun, you know
, I guess like fun to follow,

1130
00:56:00,047 --> 00:56:00,548
and I did.

1131
00:56:00,548 --> 00:56:04,445
There is a point where earlier
you guys mentioned how it moves

1132
00:56:04,465 --> 00:56:05,206
the plot, right.

1133
00:56:05,789 --> 00:56:09,556
Well, my brain, from like a
small child, was trained that

1134
00:56:09,577 --> 00:56:11,407
the way I could get through the
movies that I didn't want to

1135
00:56:11,427 --> 00:56:14,597
watch was to kind of like block
out the songs a little bit,

1136
00:56:14,724 --> 00:56:17,856
right, which is crazy, and I
know this is crazy because all

1137
00:56:17,896 --> 00:56:18,820
those movies have songs.

1138
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:21,847
So my first watch of the movie
because you guys know I always

1139
00:56:21,887 --> 00:56:25,434
watch it twice I kind of zoned
out during the song, right, and

1140
00:56:25,454 --> 00:56:28,887
then the songs would end and I'm
going, oh, whoa, scene change

1141
00:56:28,929 --> 00:56:29,268
something.

1142
00:56:29,268 --> 00:56:31,173
Like something happened right.

1143
00:56:31,173 --> 00:56:32,115
So I had to.

1144
00:56:32,115 --> 00:56:35,710
I found myself two or three
times going back because I

1145
00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:37,494
listened to the melody and
everything you know.

1146
00:56:37,494 --> 00:56:40,748
But I just don't, like I'm not
processing because, like you

1147
00:56:40,788 --> 00:56:44,132
said, like with elsa singing,
you know, like I'm just I'm kind

1148
00:56:44,132 --> 00:56:47,057
of ready to, you know, I I
almost kind of consider a break

1149
00:56:47,077 --> 00:56:48,925
time for my brain, you know you
clock.

1150
00:56:48,945 --> 00:56:51,211
Yeah, you know just it's a huna
kumitada man.

1151
00:56:51,211 --> 00:56:52,556
You know just a wonderful
phrase.

1152
00:56:52,556 --> 00:56:55,534
You know it's just, you know no
big deal.

1153
00:56:55,534 --> 00:56:58,724
And I think that that's the one
thing that I'm not used to a

1154
00:56:58,764 --> 00:56:58,885
lot.

1155
00:56:58,885 --> 00:57:02,112
I I guess I'm used to more
musical numbers being the

1156
00:57:02,152 --> 00:57:04,277
performance piece and not a
narrative piece.

1157
00:57:04,864 --> 00:57:07,032
Speaker 1: Well, DreamWorks
isn't really like that, though

1158
00:57:07,545 --> 00:57:09,313
DreamWorks is like nothing, like
Disney.

1159
00:57:09,313 --> 00:57:13,175
A lot of the musical numbers in
their movies and I'm not saying

1160
00:57:13,175 --> 00:57:16,083
that every movie is like that,
but a lot of them drive the

1161
00:57:16,143 --> 00:57:19,072
narrative Like even with what do
you call it?

1162
00:57:19,072 --> 00:57:19,635
Like Shrek.

1163
00:57:19,635 --> 00:57:24,076
Shrek had those musical numbers
were just silly ones, but there

1164
00:57:24,076 --> 00:57:26,838
was a lot that was happening in
those musical numbers, you know

1165
00:57:26,838 --> 00:57:26,838
.

1166
00:57:26,838 --> 00:57:31,230
You know, like the development
of the relationship between, you

1167
00:57:31,230 --> 00:57:32,251
know, shrek and fiona.

1168
00:57:32,251 --> 00:57:34,215
Yeah, so, like you know.

1169
00:57:34,215 --> 00:57:38,168
Yeah, dreamworks is very much
so like their music.

1170
00:57:38,168 --> 00:57:42,396
It may be silly in some movies,
but they're trying to drive the

1171
00:57:42,396 --> 00:57:46,411
story along and not pause the
movie I never thought about it

1172
00:57:46,451 --> 00:57:49,362
that way, yeah yeah, so yeah,
dude, I guess I didn't see it

1173
00:57:49,382 --> 00:57:50,847
because trick had the trick had.

1174
00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:53,512
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's a
hero for hire or whatever.

1175
00:57:53,512 --> 00:57:57,648
I need a hero in that kind of
sequence, right since they had

1176
00:57:57,668 --> 00:58:02,579
some of the popular tunes that I
knew growing up from like 80s

1177
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:03,059
movies.

1178
00:58:03,059 --> 00:58:03,961
It made it.

1179
00:58:03,961 --> 00:58:06,887
I think it made it more
accessible in some ways, and a

1180
00:58:06,947 --> 00:58:11,016
lot of those were like a montage
set to like a an awesome 80s

1181
00:58:11,277 --> 00:58:14,873
song yeah, it's mostly montages
you know, like those I can pay

1182
00:58:14,893 --> 00:58:15,855
attention, you know I can.

1183
00:58:16,416 --> 00:58:18,226
That's like a little bit, I
don't know.

1184
00:58:18,226 --> 00:58:19,670
I don't know.

1185
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:21,514
It's just made the way my brain
works.

1186
00:58:21,514 --> 00:58:22,697
I think I hear music guys.

1187
00:58:22,697 --> 00:58:26,190
I'm just like expecting like
some mindless tune and it

1188
00:58:26,210 --> 00:58:29,925
tricked me so uh that I I did
have to go back and then I was

1189
00:58:29,945 --> 00:58:30,867
more appreciative of it.

1190
00:58:30,867 --> 00:58:34,295
You know, because since I had
it really kind of caught it the

1191
00:58:34,315 --> 00:58:37,672
first time, my second watch
through, I was expecting it more

1192
00:58:37,672 --> 00:58:39,996
and I knew some of the lyrics
of the songs.

1193
00:58:39,996 --> 00:58:42,570
So it was definitely a more
enjoyable second watch.

1194
00:58:42,570 --> 00:58:45,615
And part of that was also
because I didn't even know I was

1195
00:58:45,615 --> 00:58:46,978
about to watch an animated
movie.

1196
00:58:46,978 --> 00:58:50,568
I had no idea that I was going
to be singing, so like my

1197
00:58:50,608 --> 00:58:52,655
expectations were completely
flipped.

1198
00:58:52,655 --> 00:58:56,695
So the second watch was kind of
a little bit, I think, more

1199
00:58:56,735 --> 00:58:57,356
informative.

1200
00:58:58,686 --> 00:59:01,715
Speaker 1: Would you say that
after the second watch you were

1201
00:59:01,755 --> 00:59:02,215
delivered?

1202
00:59:05,644 --> 00:59:06,206
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want
to let go.

1203
00:59:06,206 --> 00:59:08,516
You know, I was like I'm not
gonna let go and then it was

1204
00:59:08,556 --> 00:59:09,559
like no, you'll let go.

1205
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:11,750
And I was like I won't let go,
and it was like you'll let go.

1206
00:59:11,949 --> 00:59:18,789
Speaker 1: And eventually I
found myself letting go, like

1207
00:59:18,809 --> 00:59:23,355
for me it was a, it was a great
rewatch know, kind of going back

1208
00:59:23,355 --> 00:59:28,081
to a movie of my youth that you
know I remember seeing way back

1209
00:59:28,081 --> 00:59:30,954
and I remember seeing a lot of
it when I was younger.

1210
00:59:30,954 --> 00:59:32,590
But yeah, man, it was fun.

1211
00:59:32,590 --> 00:59:35,804
I forgot how much I enjoyed
that movie.

1212
00:59:36,365 --> 00:59:40,152
Speaker 2: It's a good
comparison that you made Rich to

1213
00:59:40,152 --> 00:59:44,057
Disney movies, especially like
classic disney movies, because

1214
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:49,992
when there is musical numbers
there's occasionally a pretty

1215
00:59:50,052 --> 00:59:52,697
significant villain musical
number.

1216
00:59:52,697 --> 00:59:55,849
You know, in little mermaid you
have poor, unfortunate souls.

1217
00:59:55,849 --> 00:59:58,576
Sung by ursula, we have scars
song.

1218
00:59:58,576 --> 01:00:02,030
Scars song I forget is the the
name of scars song but it's

1219
01:00:02,331 --> 01:00:05,385
basically like almost like a
nazi march I think it's be

1220
01:00:05,405 --> 01:00:07,371
prepared be prepared.

1221
01:00:07,451 --> 01:00:08,793
Yeah, oh, such a good, good one.

1222
01:00:08,793 --> 01:00:11,909
As soon as you say be prepared,
like I just you hear be

1223
01:00:11,949 --> 01:00:15,740
prepared, I'm thinking of others
, mother's mother knows best.

1224
01:00:15,981 --> 01:00:18,809
Speaker 3: In entangled mother
gothel's song there's tons of

1225
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:22,802
them, but anyway, in this movie,
one of my favorite villain

1226
01:00:22,842 --> 01:00:26,931
songs of all time is playing
with the big boys oh, that was

1227
01:00:26,971 --> 01:00:30,945
good, it's just yeah, the snake
scene with with steve martin and

1228
01:00:30,945 --> 01:00:35,338
martin short oh my gosh, that's
what made me think like I was

1229
01:00:35,378 --> 01:00:39,449
like that scene right, like
that's what I was waiting for

1230
01:00:39,509 --> 01:00:41,954
more of you know, know, like
that, I'm kind of used to that

1231
01:00:41,974 --> 01:00:42,195
stuff.

1232
01:00:42,235 --> 01:00:44,739
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you yeah,
where it that?

1233
01:00:44,739 --> 01:00:47,726
I will say that that probably
didn't move the story along as

1234
01:00:47,806 --> 01:00:51,333
much, but it is an important
scene in the narrative of the

1235
01:00:51,414 --> 01:00:54,989
actual story because it's
basically the first time you

1236
01:00:55,010 --> 01:00:58,257
know God tells Moses to perform
a miracle in front of Pharaoh.

1237
01:00:58,257 --> 01:01:01,612
But the way that they do it,
where the magic practicing

1238
01:01:01,652 --> 01:01:04,929
priests decide that they're just
going to show off all their

1239
01:01:04,949 --> 01:01:09,003
gods, is so good because it just
goes way harder than it needs

1240
01:01:09,023 --> 01:01:09,182
to.

1241
01:01:09,202 --> 01:01:13,472
Speaker 3: Basically it's a good
time that scene, yeah, that one

1242
01:01:13,472 --> 01:01:16,608
was really fun and that's kind
of a little bit the style I, you

1243
01:01:16,608 --> 01:01:16,710
know.

1244
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:19,663
Like I look the songs that I
liked most in the disney movies.

1245
01:01:19,663 --> 01:01:21,927
You know, we're like, if we're
talking about aladdin, I like

1246
01:01:21,967 --> 01:01:26,054
street rat, where it's a kind of
like fast-paced, like jokey

1247
01:01:26,195 --> 01:01:29,126
kind of going on, whereas, like
you know, I was definitely

1248
01:01:29,146 --> 01:01:32,134
rolling my eyes when a whole new
world was coming on when I was

1249
01:01:32,175 --> 01:01:36,231
a kid I was like oh, not this
one again, you know so it was

1250
01:01:36,291 --> 01:01:38,054
part of me being like also.

1251
01:01:38,675 --> 01:01:41,086
I think it's like when I watch a
movie like this, I'm kind of

1252
01:01:41,106 --> 01:01:44,211
like a 12 year old boy again,
you know, going like all right,

1253
01:01:44,251 --> 01:01:47,038
well, I could watch some of
these, you know, but like, don't

1254
01:01:47,038 --> 01:01:49,869
tell my friends and I don't
like that one and that one, but

1255
01:01:49,909 --> 01:01:54,846
I that one's okay, you know
watching Aladdin as an adult is

1256
01:01:54,925 --> 01:01:57,893
interesting because a whole new
world has an entirely different

1257
01:01:57,913 --> 01:01:58,173
meaning.

1258
01:01:58,894 --> 01:02:01,389
Speaker 2: It's, it's a, it's a
massive innuendo.

1259
01:02:01,389 --> 01:02:04,862
Like there's no way, it isn't,
there's no way.

1260
01:02:04,862 --> 01:02:06,947
Like every single line in that
isn't it?

1261
01:02:06,947 --> 01:02:08,068
It's, it has to be.

1262
01:02:08,068 --> 01:02:10,672
Like there's and and and.

1263
01:02:10,713 --> 01:02:15,347
Speaker 3: Jafar is way creepier
you know when you now you're

1264
01:02:15,367 --> 01:02:19,436
like that's like the sultan's
friend, right like you, dudes

1265
01:02:19,496 --> 01:02:20,847
are the same age.

1266
01:02:20,847 --> 01:02:22,713
Like whoa, what whoa.

1267
01:02:22,713 --> 01:02:24,556
What is happening here?

1268
01:02:25,666 --> 01:02:27,541
Speaker 2: Speaking about age,
that's another thing that this

1269
01:02:27,583 --> 01:02:28,956
movie takes liberty with.

1270
01:02:28,956 --> 01:02:33,170
Moses was 80 years old when he
liberated Egypt.

1271
01:02:33,684 --> 01:02:36,726
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know
it's a kid's movie and he looked

1272
01:02:36,726 --> 01:02:37,931
like 30, 40.

1273
01:02:37,951 --> 01:02:42,731
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe in his
40s mid-40s, I know that I look.

1274
01:02:43,186 --> 01:02:45,474
Speaker 3: I know that you want
to end on a nice note.

1275
01:02:45,474 --> 01:02:49,632
All right, I found myself binge
watched all the planet of the

1276
01:02:49,713 --> 01:02:52,018
apes movies, all right, oh my
goodness.

1277
01:02:52,018 --> 01:02:56,775
Oh my goodness, but there is a
kind of well, what I thought was

1278
01:02:56,775 --> 01:02:58,945
I was going to see, I thought I
was going to see the similar

1279
01:02:58,985 --> 01:03:03,072
scene because you know that's
the story, right, and it's okay

1280
01:03:03,512 --> 01:03:06,597
to kind of end with a
bittersweet moment, right?

1281
01:03:06,597 --> 01:03:10,005
So I'm waiting for I'm like,
what are they going to do here?

1282
01:03:10,005 --> 01:03:11,871
I'm like tapping the screen
going.

1283
01:03:11,871 --> 01:03:14,317
How are they, uh, how are they
going to show the?

1284
01:03:14,336 --> 01:03:14,516
Speaker 2: golden.

1285
01:03:14,516 --> 01:03:16,028
What are you doing?

1286
01:03:16,028 --> 01:03:16,349
You know?

1287
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:18,896
Speaker 3: and I, and I kind of
thought you're going to get that

1288
01:03:18,896 --> 01:03:21,771
moment like in the planet of
the apes, where you know he

1289
01:03:21,831 --> 01:03:26,534
leads them to the promised land
but it dies right there, as

1290
01:03:27,135 --> 01:03:30,385
he'll never be oh yeah, no, they
weren't gonna go another 40

1291
01:03:30,485 --> 01:03:32,329
years yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

1292
01:03:32,369 --> 01:03:36,416
Speaker 1: No, this was just
like the story of of exodus,

1293
01:03:36,516 --> 01:03:40,713
like this isn't yeah this wasn't
gonna like go into all that.

1294
01:03:40,713 --> 01:03:45,378
But yet, gentlemen, we are
getting super deep and kind of

1295
01:03:45,438 --> 01:03:46,949
like going off on tangents.

1296
01:03:46,949 --> 01:03:51,409
I think it is time to wrap this
one up like a mummy are we

1297
01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:51,650
ready?

1298
01:03:52,246 --> 01:03:55,664
Speaker 2: we have to let it go
let our podcast go.

1299
01:03:56,190 --> 01:03:57,264
Speaker 1: I need to be
delivered.

1300
01:03:59,150 --> 01:04:02,329
Speaker 2: Anthony is ready to
get severed yeah, a long commute

1301
01:04:02,329 --> 01:04:08,472
home yeah, that long commute
home for Anthony, oh man,

1302
01:04:09,047 --> 01:04:11,206
alright, guys, thank you so much
for listening to us here for

1303
01:04:11,407 --> 01:04:14,565
our 116th episode of Project
Ecology.

1304
01:04:14,565 --> 01:04:17,936
If you haven't checked out
Prince of Egypt, I personally

1305
01:04:18,018 --> 01:04:20,251
recommend it, just because I
think that they did a really

1306
01:04:20,271 --> 01:04:25,108
good job of using their creative
license to tell a unique take

1307
01:04:25,469 --> 01:04:26,632
on a very classic story.

1308
01:04:26,632 --> 01:04:31,706
I'm guessing from the
discussion our co hosts also

1309
01:04:31,786 --> 01:04:32,307
believe the same.

1310
01:04:32,307 --> 01:04:32,989
What do you guys think?

1311
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:33,871
Speaker 1: I agree.

1312
01:04:34,492 --> 01:04:34,733
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1313
01:04:35,795 --> 01:04:36,295
Speaker 3: I really like.

1314
01:04:36,295 --> 01:04:39,210
I mean, like I'm always the guy
who's gonna be like where's Tom

1315
01:04:39,210 --> 01:04:39,851
Bombadil?

1316
01:04:39,851 --> 01:04:42,547
So that's always gonna give me
a problem, but once I can get

1317
01:04:42,628 --> 01:04:44,913
over that, I think it was really
well done excellent.

1318
01:04:45,434 --> 01:04:45,876
Speaker 2: All right guys.

1319
01:04:45,876 --> 01:04:46,577
So you heard it here.

1320
01:04:46,577 --> 01:04:49,050
Check out prince of egypt if
you haven't already.

1321
01:04:49,050 --> 01:04:53,246
And yeah, if you haven't
decided to, you know, check out

1322
01:04:53,565 --> 01:04:54,849
and review our page.

1323
01:04:54,849 --> 01:04:58,356
We're always looking for good
reviews, specifically juicy ones

1324
01:04:58,356 --> 01:04:58,356
.

1325
01:04:58,356 --> 01:04:59,204
Anthony, how many?

1326
01:04:59,204 --> 01:05:01,228
How many stars is a juicy
review?

1327
01:05:01,449 --> 01:05:06,927
Speaker 1: we need five flame
broiled juicy stars man make

1328
01:05:06,947 --> 01:05:07,869
sure they're sizzling guys.

1329
01:05:08,532 --> 01:05:09,835
Speaker 2: All right, have a
good one.

1330
01:05:09,835 --> 01:05:11,380
Goodbye y'all.

1331
01:05:11,380 --> 01:05:13,336
You're no longer playing with
the big boys.

1332
01:05:13,336 --> 01:05:13,764
Bye guys.