WEBVTT 00:00:00.100 --> 00:00:05.312 Welcome to episode 116 of Project Geekology. 00:00:05.312 --> 00:00:10.012 And here we are once again in ancient Egypt. 00:00:10.012 --> 00:00:19.972 We are approaching the pharaoh of all podcasts and just asking him to let our podcasts go. 00:00:22.082 --> 00:00:33.572 I am one half of your host, anthony, and joining me, as always, is dakota and you guys are playing with the big boys now, um, we are also joined with a third co-host, rich. 00:00:33.792 --> 00:00:36.384 Say hello hey guys, pretty excited here, I think. 00:00:36.384 --> 00:00:39.716 I think this episode is going to get a lot of juicy reviews. 00:00:39.716 --> 00:00:41.320 You think so why? 00:00:41.341 --> 00:00:41.780 do you say that? 00:00:41.881 --> 00:00:43.904 I mean just to offset the dryness of Egypt. 00:00:43.904 --> 00:00:50.753 But no, I think we're going to have scorching hot takes in the sands of time. 00:00:51.075 --> 00:00:51.454 I love it. 00:00:51.454 --> 00:01:06.763 Speaking of juicy reviews, we've been trying to incorporate the idea of you guys should review our podcast, Five Stars Juicy, and we use the term juicy just because it's it's fun and it it caught on somewhere down the line. 00:01:06.763 --> 00:01:15.195 The only thing I could find that was like remotely juicy in this movie is like there's there's a scene where moses has like a bunch of figs in his hand. 00:01:15.215 --> 00:01:19.322 I'm like that looks juicy, so oh yeah. 00:01:19.322 --> 00:01:41.001 So the funny thing is is that I went over that whole spiel and we talked and we didn't even say what movie we were covering, which is gonna be dreamworks movie in 1998 the prince of egypt was it eight or 1999, I thought uh, no, no, it was 98 oh okay, so all right, so I I have a correction to make to you both. 00:01:41.403 --> 00:02:02.444 I texted you that you, you know, the mummy and this movie, the Prince of Egypt, took place in, or were released in, the same year, but I guess I was a year off or like six months off or something like that but it does share some similarities in terms of, you know, just like certain aspects of the of the two movies. 00:02:02.444 --> 00:02:13.927 Like we spoke about, some of the characters that exist in the mummy that you know actually existed in real life, one of those being Seti I, the pharaoh, that's the pharaoh that's killed in the beginning of the mummy. 00:02:13.927 --> 00:02:28.162 That person, seti I, is in this movie depicted as the pharaoh that exists while Moses is still, you know, in Egypt, before he leaves and goes into the wilderness. 00:02:28.162 --> 00:02:45.931 But yeah, so there's some connections there and both films are also very liberal with their interpretations and they make a lot of creative liberties, I should say, and it works for both movies and I think it works for this one. 00:02:45.931 --> 00:02:47.567 So I'm excited to talk about some of that. 00:02:48.379 --> 00:02:54.954 And yeah, I'll try not to be too Egyptology-ish, that's not a word. 00:02:54.954 --> 00:03:05.088 I'm trying not to go crazy with the Egyptology stuff, this podcast, because I could probably talk for like 30 minutes about it, but yeah, we're discussing Prince of Egypt, guys. 00:03:05.088 --> 00:03:10.752 Before we do any of that, though, let's jump into what we've been up to this past week. 00:03:10.752 --> 00:03:13.086 Rich, I'm going to hand it off to you. 00:03:13.086 --> 00:03:13.747 What have you been up to? 00:03:14.460 --> 00:03:16.765 Well, let's see, Work-wise things kind of heat up. 00:03:16.765 --> 00:03:19.086 I don't know if it's kind of always lines up. 00:03:19.086 --> 00:03:21.622 This year April 20th is my big deadline at work. 00:03:21.622 --> 00:03:26.068 I have to make sure that there are a lot of things taken care of, submitted, shared. 00:03:26.068 --> 00:03:32.867 I have to manage over like 12 different people and 200 something students and make sure that everyone meets deadlines. 00:03:32.867 --> 00:03:36.844 So kind of in the middle of that that's been taking up a lot of my energy. 00:03:36.844 --> 00:03:55.902 But also can't forget that the New York Metropolitans have returned home and I returned home, I went to opening day and then I went to the next day, which was bitterly cold oh my god man and stayed two days ago it was like so cold. 00:03:56.243 --> 00:03:58.628 I don't know how you were, or that was that yesterday. 00:03:58.669 --> 00:04:01.140 So that was the fourth game which I did not. 00:04:01.140 --> 00:04:05.652 Yeah, I went to friday, saturday, sunday, and then I took a day off, not a day off. 00:04:05.652 --> 00:04:14.933 It was so cold up here that they actually moved the time from 7 10 to 4 10 and I've never seen it moved because of just the cold, but it was windy and cold so they moved it. 00:04:14.933 --> 00:04:16.839 It was brutal anthony. 00:04:16.980 --> 00:04:27.011 Like it, like this past week in new york, like last week, was nice, it's beautiful, almost t-shirt weather, and then this week, like last night, it was in the 20s. 00:04:27.011 --> 00:04:28.687 It was in the 20 degrees last night. 00:04:28.687 --> 00:04:30.846 I don't know what is going on with the weather up here. 00:04:32.350 --> 00:04:39.079 So yeah, hey man, you know, we were in a nice crisp like 70 degrees Today. 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:45.312 It dropped a little bit to, like you know, the morning it was like in the like the upper 60s. 00:04:45.351 --> 00:05:05.908 So it was pretty good rough times for you, sir, but I know it's hey, florida, that's, that's like, that's like parka weather but all in all it was nice to get back in the swing, nice to go to the games, and my son likes to score the games so we score it together, so it's just and honestly, the best part about it is I'm technically outdoors so I'm. 00:05:05.908 --> 00:05:08.906 When my wife basically wants me to touch grass, that's what I do it. 00:05:08.906 --> 00:05:10.028 I touch it at the baseball field. 00:05:10.028 --> 00:05:11.221 So what have you been up to? 00:05:11.221 --> 00:05:11.641 Dakota? 00:05:12.423 --> 00:05:19.351 nice man, before we jump over to me, are you, uh, still actively playing mlb the show like how's that going, how's that going? 00:05:19.372 --> 00:05:20.134 I'm not gonna lie to you. 00:05:20.134 --> 00:05:22.244 I I've been feeling really good about my playing, all right. 00:05:22.244 --> 00:05:23.269 I've been feeling I'm collecting lots of the cards. 00:05:23.269 --> 00:05:24.415 I've been feeling really good about my playing, all right. 00:05:24.415 --> 00:05:26.562 I've been feeling I'm collecting lots of the cards. 00:05:26.562 --> 00:05:28.687 I've been closing out collections. 00:05:28.687 --> 00:05:33.583 They're still I think it's four days left in the season. 00:05:33.783 --> 00:05:36.173 I've gotten almost everything I need for the next. 00:05:36.173 --> 00:05:43.701 It's called the second inning, which will be kind of like the career, the reward path that I'm really excited that I I maxed out the first one. 00:05:43.701 --> 00:05:48.406 I've got some kind of voucher that I earned for the second one, so I'm looking forward to that. 00:05:48.406 --> 00:05:56.711 And then I went to the med game with my friend and apparently he is somehow more of a degenerate player than I am. 00:05:56.711 --> 00:06:09.156 So you have to get to a certain level to get a special card for each team and that is going to be like a pack, revealed on april 24th, I believe. 00:06:09.156 --> 00:06:11.966 So you need to get 15 out of 30 mlb teams. 00:06:11.966 --> 00:06:14.050 It's quite a lot of xp. 00:06:14.089 --> 00:06:15.874 To earn very specific things. 00:06:15.874 --> 00:06:17.685 You have to pitch with different pitchers. 00:06:17.685 --> 00:06:29.867 I've been winning games with lots of low, low, low name, low level, no name guys, because that's all I have available for that team and I got 15 of them almost and I'm so proud of that. 00:06:29.867 --> 00:06:31.370 And this guy goes well. 00:06:31.370 --> 00:06:32.492 I got all 30 teams. 00:06:32.492 --> 00:06:40.637 Listen to me when I tell you that there's always a bigger digit I, I. 00:06:40.737 --> 00:06:43.384 I think they say that in phantom it's just I. 00:06:43.605 --> 00:06:44.286 I was sitting there. 00:06:44.286 --> 00:06:45.290 You don't understand. 00:06:45.290 --> 00:06:46.927 We're both teachers, right? 00:06:46.927 --> 00:06:57.908 We both have families, and I just was like I don't know, aside from using uppers to stay up and never go to sleep, I don't even know how I could play more MLB. 00:06:57.908 --> 00:07:07.201 But I found out that one of the big mistakes I'm making is I should be playing in Colorado, because I like to play at Citi Field. 00:07:07.201 --> 00:07:17.370 The conditions are the conditions in Queens, but if you play in Colorado, every game it is the high altitude will actually drive the ball out more often. 00:07:17.370 --> 00:07:26.072 So I could be getting more home runs if I just played in Denver, that's bizarre, bizarre, that's okay. 00:07:26.112 --> 00:07:32.206 It's bizarre that the game uses real world altitude physics in its like programming. 00:07:32.206 --> 00:07:32.682 That's. 00:07:32.682 --> 00:07:34.168 I'm actually impressed by that. 00:07:34.168 --> 00:07:43.788 So if there were any way to like get me into that, if the collecting cards aspect wouldn't work, that actually might, you know, push me over the top. 00:07:43.827 --> 00:07:44.350 That's kind of cool. 00:07:44.350 --> 00:07:48.569 I do want to mention I was a little late to sign on today because you said cards. 00:07:48.569 --> 00:07:59.831 Charlie, my son started playing the pokemon pocket card trading game and like we just ripped 10 packs before we got down, like he was like wait, I have enough to open 10 packs. 00:07:59.831 --> 00:08:01.839 Dad and I was like let's go. 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.365 So it was uh, he got a. 00:08:05.365 --> 00:08:08.533 He got aidgeotto EX, which we were pretty excited about. 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:10.024 Excellent, I love that. 00:08:10.024 --> 00:08:12.466 All right, I'll take it back from you. 00:08:12.466 --> 00:08:13.202 Let's see. 00:08:13.202 --> 00:08:14.266 What have I been up to? 00:08:14.266 --> 00:08:17.012 I think mostly I've been watching. 00:08:17.012 --> 00:08:26.507 Well, the finale, the season finale of White Lotus, season 3, happened this past weekend and that was nuts Like. 00:08:26.507 --> 00:08:28.644 That was a crazy ending to that show. 00:08:28.644 --> 00:08:31.971 There's nothing I can say that isn't a spoiler, especially you know. 00:08:31.971 --> 00:08:34.126 I know Anthony is watching the first season. 00:08:34.126 --> 00:08:44.070 I don't know if you finished the first season yet, anthony, and yeah, I don't want to spoil it for anyone who is listening and potentially wants to watch that show, but very, very good show, very worth worth it. 00:08:44.070 --> 00:08:48.562 And now I am in the middle of season two of severance. 00:08:49.543 --> 00:08:59.182 So severance is an apple tv series where it's like a serious, like mind-melting show in a very literal sense. 00:08:59.182 --> 00:09:03.750 So there is this idea, this concept. 00:09:03.750 --> 00:09:23.825 It's like a parallel world to ours, but in this world there's a sci fi concept that's almost Black Mirror ish, where they introduce this concept of severance where when you go to work and clock in, there's a chip in your brain that basically like resets. 00:09:23.825 --> 00:09:26.135 So you have no idea who you are on the outside. 00:09:26.135 --> 00:09:29.166 You only have an idea of like who you are on the inside. 00:09:29.166 --> 00:09:31.200 So if you've only been working at this company for a month. 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:36.250 Technically, that individual who you are as a worker has only existed for a month. 00:09:36.250 --> 00:09:39.788 So you kind of grow into this role. 00:09:39.788 --> 00:09:40.652 I mean, they're not babies. 00:09:40.652 --> 00:09:50.241 They understand english and everything, but they have no concept of the outside world and the people on the outside have no concept of what's happening on the inside world of you know. 00:09:50.241 --> 00:09:52.506 A severance like work, workflow, whatever. 00:09:52.506 --> 00:10:03.586 So it's a really crazy system and as the show goes on, you realize that this company that these severed individuals are working for, lumen, is not what it seems. 00:10:03.586 --> 00:10:10.826 It almost like like extreme cult, like has an extreme cult like following and all that and it's just super freaky stuff. 00:10:11.389 --> 00:10:13.753 So I'm really enjoying severance. 00:10:13.753 --> 00:10:28.629 It's a really cool concept and, yeah, the the lines between you know the any, the person who's like the inside you who's working, versus the outside person who's just living their day-to-day life starts to blend and it's just, it's just chaos. 00:10:28.629 --> 00:10:29.731 Really, really good show. 00:10:29.731 --> 00:10:33.586 But I think that is all for me this week. 00:10:33.586 --> 00:10:35.751 Yeah, anthony, what have you been up to? 00:10:35.751 --> 00:10:38.302 Have you finished white lotus season one? 00:10:38.923 --> 00:10:40.585 no, no, no, I haven't finished that yet. 00:10:40.585 --> 00:10:52.149 I don't really have much that I've had going on, except for I'm a week and a half in my new job role, so I've been, you know, doing a lot of learning, a lot of brain dumping. 00:10:52.149 --> 00:11:03.346 There's definitely a lot that I'm not going to know when I start this role, and it's not as how long is the period where you are, you know training. 00:11:03.346 --> 00:11:04.649 It's two weeks. 00:11:04.649 --> 00:11:05.851 Two weeks of training, yeah. 00:11:07.542 --> 00:11:09.048 That's a pretty long training session, yeah. 00:11:09.660 --> 00:11:14.692 Well, I mean, with this job role, there's a lot that goes into it. 00:11:14.692 --> 00:11:25.534 I could be doing anything from helping somebody reset their password to going into their files and helping them with like program stuff, you know. 00:11:25.534 --> 00:11:31.591 So there, yeah, yeah, there's definitely a lot that I won't know. 00:11:31.591 --> 00:11:39.972 And the thing is, is that, like, there's only so much that the trainers can go over, because not every scenario happens all the time. 00:11:41.022 --> 00:11:45.932 So yeah, I worked in an it job for a little bit. 00:11:45.932 --> 00:11:48.717 This was back in like 2011 2012. 00:11:48.717 --> 00:11:58.600 My least favorite thing to do was reset the drivers for printers because for some reason, printers reset all the time. 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.528 They just break down constantly and you have to like reset them. 00:12:02.528 --> 00:12:05.533 I feel like I reset the same printers. 00:12:05.533 --> 00:12:09.206 You know in that year and a half that I worked there so many times. 00:12:09.206 --> 00:12:15.428 Yeah, so that that's my least favorite part of that job, but you know there was some cool stuff in there, but yeah yeah, yeah. 00:12:15.469 --> 00:12:42.543 So the thing about like our stuff is that a lot of it is like kind of in network so you can access a lot of like printers because they are in the network and you know we can go as far as to like logging into, like the individual, like printer, not just the drivers on a computer but, like you know, getting the printer pinging, pinging the printer to make sure that it's connecting to the network. 00:12:42.543 --> 00:12:44.509 You know just different stuff like that. 00:12:44.509 --> 00:12:48.626 But the thing is is that there's only so much that they can kind of go over. 00:12:48.626 --> 00:13:04.903 And I mean the cool thing about the trainer is that he is doing like live calls and like kind of like showing us and like live tickets and stuff and you know just to like show us like the different scenarios and then how to like kind of like annotate, like tickets and stuff. 00:13:05.364 --> 00:13:17.168 You know, I do believe that like I will be busy, but I don't think I'm going to be anywhere as busy as I was working at a branch and that sounds insane because I'm going to be helping all of the branches. 00:13:17.229 --> 00:13:28.534 But the thing is is that I've been to other branches and a lot of the branches are really slow dude, like the one that I was at was like a main hub and like we were just crazy busy all the time. 00:13:28.534 --> 00:13:36.366 I mean, there are times in a day where it gets a little busy, like I suspect that like I could probably help, you know, maybe anywhere from. 00:13:36.366 --> 00:13:44.509 You know 15 to 30 like max, you know on a day, and then like, maybe the busier days a little bit more than that. 00:13:44.509 --> 00:13:50.919 You know on a day and then like maybe the busier days a little bit more than that, whereas, like when I was in a branch, I was helping a lot more people and doing like a lot more transactions. 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:57.833 You know, like so I'm I'm pretty used to like high volume and like this doesn't seem as high volume. 00:13:57.833 --> 00:14:03.650 It will, though, once we go through our next merger, so it'll probably pick up a little bit. 00:14:04.131 --> 00:14:12.644 No, it will pick up a little bit dang sounds like you are the perfect candidate for a severance I do. 00:14:13.164 --> 00:14:20.124 I do forget about my, you know, outside life, when I clock into, uh, I clock into work, but but yeah, no man. 00:14:20.124 --> 00:14:22.768 So you know, it's been, it's been good, been good. 00:14:22.768 --> 00:14:26.534 I do like working from home. 00:14:26.534 --> 00:14:29.009 I don't think I ever want to work in a building again, dude. 00:14:30.201 --> 00:14:31.985 I totally get that. 00:14:32.607 --> 00:14:33.571 But yeah, man. 00:14:33.571 --> 00:14:38.711 So yeah, the biggest thing for me is just work, and you know not much. 00:14:38.711 --> 00:14:42.850 I mean, you know we're still watching through One Piece. 00:14:42.850 --> 00:14:45.447 I didn't watch any episodes. 00:14:45.447 --> 00:14:48.903 I I think like in a week and a half I watched some today. 00:14:48.903 --> 00:14:52.851 So but but yeah, man, nothing, crazy man. 00:14:52.851 --> 00:15:08.807 I mean I don't know if you guys have anything else that you needed to add to what you've been up to, but I think it's safe to say we can hop into the topic I think this is a rare podcast where we actually start talking about the topic at hand prior to the 20 minute mark. 00:15:09.408 --> 00:15:12.364 So you know, pat ourselves in the back a little bit. 00:15:12.364 --> 00:15:15.996 There guys, we are here to talk about the Prince of Egypt. 00:15:15.996 --> 00:15:39.539 This is an adaptation of the Exodus story, the story of how you know in the Bible or the Torah, how Moses led the Hebrew slaves out of captivity from basically a very tyrannical and cruel ruler who is an unnamed Pharaoh in the Bible. 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:51.456 So, yeah, I think this movie does a really good job of taking what is there in the Bible and just wrapping a motivational children's story. 00:15:51.456 --> 00:15:58.591 You know, it is very spiritual and I think it gets the spirit of the story mostly right, even though it does take a lot of creative liberties. 00:15:58.591 --> 00:16:01.067 But we'll talk more about that in a little bit. 00:16:01.067 --> 00:16:04.115 Anthony, you said you hadn't watched this movie since you were a kid. 00:16:04.115 --> 00:16:06.683 Yeah, man, how do you feel going back to it? 00:16:07.346 --> 00:16:07.947 it was crazy. 00:16:07.947 --> 00:16:10.900 It really did bring me back to when I was a kid. 00:16:10.900 --> 00:16:12.446 I I remember seeing. 00:16:12.446 --> 00:16:16.200 So I do remember seeing this in theaters and this was like back in 98. 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.626 I, I know I wasn't even 10 yet at that point. 00:16:19.626 --> 00:16:21.530 So, yeah, I was, I was young. 00:16:21.530 --> 00:16:28.668 Um, I do remember it seeing it, like you know, a few more times after that, my parents getting that movie. 00:16:28.668 --> 00:16:31.240 So I remember seeing it, not just once. 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:36.750 I saw it a bunch of times when I was a kid, but after a while I just never saw it again. 00:16:36.750 --> 00:16:53.244 I mean, it always popped up in my mind and I always see it pop up online and I'd be like man, yeah, I remember that movie and I remember just how I thought the art was really cool and I kind of remembered some of the songs a little bit and yeah, man, it was wild. 00:16:53.244 --> 00:16:55.470 Going back to this movie, how about? 00:16:55.509 --> 00:16:56.291 you what was awesome. 00:16:56.312 --> 00:16:56.793 You've seen this. 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.109 I watched it with my wife, jen. 00:17:00.109 --> 00:17:07.585 She had never seen it so I was just like, oh, oh, let's throw it on. 00:17:07.585 --> 00:17:09.351 It might have been five, six, seven years ago or something like that. 00:17:09.351 --> 00:17:17.392 You know, it was not super long ago, so I I I do have this more fresh in my mind than you do, but prior to that it had been a very long time. 00:17:17.392 --> 00:17:29.242 Like you, I also I don't think I saw it in the movie theater, but I did have the dvd and it was one of my favorite dvds because it had, like a there was a special feature. 00:17:29.242 --> 00:17:34.973 That was when, like you know, when dvds first came out, the special features. 00:17:34.973 --> 00:17:44.449 Like you needed to watch the special features because it was the coolest concept, like you, just get extra movie yeah, yeah and a lot of background stuff, man, I loved. 00:17:45.309 --> 00:17:56.469 I love the, the special features and like extra stuff and like the dvd versions of, like the extended editions of, the lord of the rings oh yeah, you know so and all that, yeah, so yeah no, no, you're right. 00:17:56.469 --> 00:18:07.583 Like that was that time, yeah, like we had definitely got extra and and the the special features I feel like nobody cares with the blu-rays or anything like that like there's. 00:18:07.723 --> 00:18:12.806 If you ever go into like the special features for stuff like that, it's pretty bare, there's not much there. 00:18:12.806 --> 00:18:13.509 They'll show you like. 00:18:13.509 --> 00:18:15.096 This is the teaser trailer. 00:18:15.096 --> 00:18:16.500 This is the regular trailer. 00:18:16.780 --> 00:18:28.776 This is an interview with the director oh, yeah, you know, but there was a really cool special feature on this particular movie that was a rendition of when you Believe. 00:18:28.776 --> 00:18:39.664 It's the big emotional song when they're leaving Egypt and it's a multi-language version, so it's the same exact clip of them. 00:18:39.664 --> 00:18:42.130 You know, like Miriam and Zipporah singing. 00:18:42.130 --> 00:18:59.621 You know the song when you Believe, but every five to 10 seconds it switches to a different language and it's really well woven and it's like 25, 30 something languages like throughout the course of the song and it's a really beautiful piece. 00:18:59.621 --> 00:19:05.660 You can find it on YouTube, even though nobody like has uploaded a clear version in a very long time, like the. 00:19:05.660 --> 00:19:10.451 The newest version that you can find online, at least on youtube, is 17 years old. 00:19:10.451 --> 00:19:15.970 It looks like it was recorded on a potato, but it's really. 00:19:15.970 --> 00:19:20.924 It's a really beautiful scene and if you have the dvd, that would be the ideal way to watch that. 00:19:20.924 --> 00:19:26.673 But yeah, I do not have that anymore yeah, yeah, I know same here it's. 00:19:27.421 --> 00:19:29.065 Yeah, it's been lost over the years. 00:19:29.625 --> 00:19:30.508 But lost a time. 00:19:30.508 --> 00:19:35.626 It is now ancient history, but you know we have someone on the podcast who had never seen this movie before. 00:19:36.308 --> 00:19:49.711 It's like you guys, I don't know how you found the recesses, dark recesses of my mind for things that either I've stayed away from on purpose you know purposely stay away from or things that I just okay. 00:19:49.711 --> 00:19:52.452 Well, you said that Val Kilmer was the voice of God. 00:19:52.955 --> 00:19:54.241 And Moses, right yeah and Moses. 00:19:54.681 --> 00:19:55.434 Well, that's the best part. 00:19:55.515 --> 00:19:57.582 No, he's not the voice of Moses. 00:19:57.582 --> 00:19:58.585 No, he's not. 00:19:58.585 --> 00:20:00.281 I think he's literally just God. 00:20:01.459 --> 00:20:03.682 No, no, I think he has multiple voices. 00:20:03.682 --> 00:20:05.982 I think he's two voices, does he? 00:20:05.982 --> 00:20:07.801 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he has two voices. 00:20:07.855 --> 00:20:09.441 He might be like Ralph Fiennes. 00:20:11.277 --> 00:20:12.761 Yeah, that's Ralph Fiennes. 00:20:12.882 --> 00:20:13.483 That's Voldemort. 00:20:19.615 --> 00:20:20.497 Isn, that's voldemort, isn't more val kilmer. 00:20:20.497 --> 00:20:20.597 Am I? 00:20:20.597 --> 00:20:20.837 Am I wrong? 00:20:20.837 --> 00:20:20.959 Moses? 00:20:20.959 --> 00:20:21.681 And god, yeah, val kilmer was moses. 00:20:21.681 --> 00:20:22.281 Oh snap, okay, so I was. 00:20:22.281 --> 00:20:28.078 I was confusing, because I listened to the, I listened to the music, oh yeah, so this makes it okay. 00:20:28.098 --> 00:20:32.996 So that makes it hilarious, because I did not even know this was an animated movie. 00:20:32.996 --> 00:20:35.921 I there's like this movie. 00:20:35.921 --> 00:20:45.224 I didn't know anything about it, right, I thought it was gonna be like ben-hur, right, and that val kilmer was playing the voice of god. 00:20:45.786 --> 00:20:49.398 So when I saw that it was animated I was like whoa what? 00:20:49.398 --> 00:20:56.683 So I was already super surprised going into it, because I can't explain to you why I like dreamworks movies. 00:20:56.683 --> 00:21:00.115 I've seen many other dreamworks movies. 00:21:00.115 --> 00:21:02.619 I don't remember this existing. 00:21:02.619 --> 00:21:07.028 I've never seen the movie, the cover, the poster. 00:21:07.028 --> 00:21:09.377 I don't remember seeing a commercial. 00:21:09.377 --> 00:21:16.921 I couldn't believe how many people were in the movie that I know I was like it's a massive cast jeff goldblum. 00:21:16.941 --> 00:21:26.288 Before goldblum like I mean, yes, it, it's craig martin short, it's his buddy, that steve martin, steve martin, right, sandra bullock's in it. 00:21:26.288 --> 00:21:35.596 I was like whoa, helen mirren, helen mirren patrick stewart, michelle pfeiffer what I heard was actually, this was actually like a stacked. 00:21:35.596 --> 00:21:37.657 This movie was stacked. 00:21:37.897 --> 00:21:38.439 I heard Patrick. 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:50.387 Stewart's voice and I paused the movie and I went who the, you know, pardon, my French is in this movie and I, you know, went ahead and was like oh man, this is nuts. 00:21:50.807 --> 00:21:51.828 I had this. 00:21:51.828 --> 00:21:56.353 I think it was the exact same moment where I heard a voice that I recognized. 00:21:56.353 --> 00:22:02.345 I was just like I can't picture who this is in my head, but I recognized that voice so well and I looked it up. 00:22:02.345 --> 00:22:03.287 Yeah, and that's. 00:22:03.287 --> 00:22:04.696 That's also when I saw the cast. 00:22:04.696 --> 00:22:18.890 So the reason I, the reason I was so convinced that val kilmer wasn't the voice of moses, is because he doesn't do the singing yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, that's that's, that's what threw me off there. 00:22:19.015 --> 00:22:24.727 But, like, ralph fines does do the singing role, so he plays ramses and dude I love. 00:22:24.727 --> 00:22:27.921 First of all, the music in this movie is just so incredible. 00:22:27.921 --> 00:22:33.498 The, the song let my people go where it's like a it's it doubles with moses singing. 00:22:33.498 --> 00:22:34.699 Why won't you let my people go? 00:22:34.699 --> 00:22:35.180 And he goes. 00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:37.182 I will not let my people, your people go. 00:22:37.182 --> 00:22:43.391 It's such a great duet and whenever I hear ralph fines I cannot not picture voldemort. 00:22:43.391 --> 00:22:45.638 So I'm just picturing voldemort singing. 00:22:45.638 --> 00:22:56.525 So if you ever listen to what's the name of this song I want to like, actually it is called, oh, it's called the plagues. 00:22:56.525 --> 00:22:58.688 Yeah, that's, that's the name of the song. 00:22:58.688 --> 00:23:03.243 It's ralph fines and amic byram, who I thought was the voice of moses. 00:23:03.243 --> 00:23:06.152 Yeah, yeah, it sounds like voldemort. 00:23:06.152 --> 00:23:10.300 If you, if you listen to that with the lens of this, is voldemort singing. 00:23:11.001 --> 00:23:16.337 It's so much funnier I know that we decided to cover this movie. 00:23:16.337 --> 00:23:18.064 You, you know it. 00:23:18.064 --> 00:23:20.214 We thought it would be fun to like stay in Egypt. 00:23:20.214 --> 00:23:22.644 But also, you know Val Kilmer. 00:23:22.644 --> 00:23:30.842 He does a couple of voices in this movie like you know two major like characters and I was wondering what he got top billing. 00:23:31.063 --> 00:23:31.845 I kept looking at it. 00:23:31.845 --> 00:23:32.626 I was just like man. 00:23:32.626 --> 00:23:34.682 He only has a couple of lines. 00:23:34.682 --> 00:23:41.145 I don't know why he's like the top build actor on this, but that changes the way I see the movie. 00:23:41.145 --> 00:23:42.653 Yeah, I don't know how I didn't realize that, but all right cool. 00:23:42.673 --> 00:23:46.702 But yeah, man, we, we lost them a couple weeks ago, man or was it? 00:23:46.702 --> 00:23:48.886 Last week, it was last last week, yeah, yeah. 00:23:48.886 --> 00:23:52.464 So, yeah, man, going back, you know, watching it. 00:23:52.566 --> 00:24:28.980 As an adult like you have much more of an appreciation for like the artwork of of stuff and like the artwork and this is like so good man, I'm like this was 1998 it's 98 it's so creative, like the way that the backgrounds are just like the really bright pastel colors and like the really fluid motion of, like the anime, the animated characters, and it blends that like cartoony vibe that is so typical of dreamworks and disney at that time, like the facial expressions that characters make, the sinister grins that, like the evil dudes have. 00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:38.496 It blends all of that so well and it really takes a lot of like creative license with, you know, incorporating egyptian iconography and stuff into it. 00:24:38.496 --> 00:24:48.125 Like you know, like last week on, while we were talking about the mummy, I kept saying like whenever it's a egypt movie, they have to put the pyramids in the background. 00:24:48.224 --> 00:24:49.635 They just can't help themselves. 00:24:50.037 --> 00:24:55.980 They did that in this one too this doesn't take place anywhere near that, but hey they're right there, hey man. 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.807 Look, we have to let people know that it's in egypt. 00:24:59.807 --> 00:25:26.185 Yes, I know, one of the one of the things that I really liked about you know, and kind of like going back a little bit to the artwork, is that like it's 2d animation but they give it like dimension, like it looks almost 3d but it's 2d yeah, they did the same thing that, like early avatar did, where they it is a 2d show or in this case it's 2d movie. 00:25:26.707 --> 00:25:40.417 But they do incorporate slight cgi elements that you will notice of like, if you like are paying attention, like the scene where moses mother sends him into the, the river, with, you know, in the in the basket. 00:25:40.417 --> 00:25:45.958 The basket is cgi yeah but it's like a flat cgi so it blends in with the 2d animation. 00:25:45.958 --> 00:25:48.025 It's it's really really clever. 00:25:48.164 --> 00:25:56.542 Yeah, I like it a lot yeah, I thought, I thought that that really held up, like because you know I'm thinking, oh, it's a 1999 movie, what's the animation going to be like? 00:25:56.542 --> 00:26:11.846 But I thought it definitely is, in that you know, like Mulan-ish kind of style it's definitely crisper than you know, like, of course I'm going to reference another kind of well, middle Eastern Aladdin. 00:26:11.846 --> 00:26:17.017 I loved that movie and I watched it a couple years ago and it doesn't. 00:26:17.017 --> 00:26:19.876 The animation's just a bit behind this. 00:26:20.096 --> 00:26:21.641 so yeah, it's. 00:26:21.641 --> 00:26:25.147 It's like around the time of like lion king and all that. 00:26:25.147 --> 00:26:28.440 It's like the early 90s disney movies had. 00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:38.145 They weren't as I don't want to say, they weren't as creative, but it was a different art yeah you know, that doesn't necessarily hold up today, because it's not incorporated at all today. 00:26:38.978 --> 00:26:52.624 So that's why this to me, I was pleasantly surprised for a 25 or more year old movie 27, that's older than my students. 00:26:52.624 --> 00:26:53.185 That's crazy. 00:26:53.185 --> 00:26:56.694 It looks better than Minecraft. 00:26:56.694 --> 00:26:57.363 Sorry, had to take a shot. 00:26:57.363 --> 00:26:57.590 Minecraft was purposeful. 00:26:57.590 --> 00:26:57.773 Though it's crazy, you know it's actually. 00:26:57.773 --> 00:26:59.840 It looks better than Minecraft, sorry, I had to take a shot. 00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:03.861 Minecraft was purposeful though, I know, but let's not get into that. 00:27:03.861 --> 00:27:04.455 That could be. 00:27:04.455 --> 00:27:05.903 That's a whole other episode, gentlemen. 00:27:06.595 --> 00:27:10.440 That could be but you know, have you guys seen the Minecraft movie, or a Minecraft movie, whatever? 00:27:10.461 --> 00:27:10.842 it's called. 00:27:10.842 --> 00:27:12.077 I'm politically opposed. 00:27:12.097 --> 00:27:13.522 I actually did, I actually did. 00:27:21.414 --> 00:27:21.876 Oh boy, I actually did. 00:27:21.876 --> 00:27:22.779 Oh boy, you didn't bring it up. 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:24.766 I forgot, we don't have to say anything else, guys. 00:27:24.766 --> 00:27:25.509 We don't have to say anything more. 00:27:25.509 --> 00:27:35.847 Well, honestly, tell you truth, like I mean you might not like it, but like Dakota and I were like really big into it before it blew up actually yeah, we, we were playing the beta before. 00:27:35.948 --> 00:27:36.949 It was like a. 00:27:37.490 --> 00:27:39.935 Yeah, Like. 00:27:39.935 --> 00:27:41.421 I would say like I think what? 00:27:41.421 --> 00:27:43.307 2012, 2013? 00:27:43.307 --> 00:27:47.826 , like around there is, when it blew up, we were playing this like back in, like 2010. 00:27:47.826 --> 00:27:49.153 I'm going to put it this way yeah, that was. 00:27:49.856 --> 00:27:51.824 Did you guys grow up with Polaroid cameras? 00:27:52.275 --> 00:27:53.701 Yeah, they were around, yeah. 00:27:53.994 --> 00:27:55.300 Like people would use them. 00:27:55.300 --> 00:27:56.506 Yes, but they weren't popular. 00:27:56.586 --> 00:27:59.307 They they're around, yeah, like people, yes, but they weren't popular they weren't, so they were very I'm a little bit older. 00:27:59.307 --> 00:28:18.087 They were very popular, right, my grandfather, I mean, that's all we used, basically, all right, I was gonna say I'm pretty sure it's older than you, yeah, it's older than me, but that was that was our prime, like like photography method, and I, you know, when I got something better, I was like wow, this is so much like I would never, why would I ever go back? 00:28:18.275 --> 00:28:22.747 and now my students walk in with polaroids, you know, and they're like oh, isn't this so cool? 00:28:22.747 --> 00:28:28.939 And they're waving it and the quality is terrible, you know, like because they've got these terrible ones, and that's kind of. 00:28:28.939 --> 00:28:34.238 Oh yeah, it's just like the five dollar polaroid cameras, yeah, and that's kind of how I feel and I don't want to insult more. 00:28:34.238 --> 00:28:38.285 But that's how I feel about Minecraft, because for me the style harkens back to what. 00:28:38.285 --> 00:28:40.970 I didn't have a choice, so I don't want to return to the choice. 00:28:41.536 --> 00:29:01.037 So for me it's like okay, you know, playing Atari was was rough man there's actually some really good, you know, and I'm and I'm gonna leave it at this because we got to get back to the movie but there's some really good indie video games that like tap into that retro vibe that like you're completely missing out on. 00:29:01.037 --> 00:29:07.143 If you don't like that vibe, I'm telling you there's a lot of really good ones, like cuphead, cuphead, dude. 00:29:07.143 --> 00:29:08.125 Cuphead's really good. 00:29:08.125 --> 00:29:09.549 Well, there's cuphead. 00:29:09.549 --> 00:29:12.778 You also have octopath traveler, which is really good. 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:27.018 There's a lot stardew yeah, stardew, stardew is really good just like the thing is hollow night, the just how sticks said you know, and mr roboto, my dude, I believe the line is I am the modern man and that's all I've got. 00:29:27.018 --> 00:29:35.326 But uh, you know, speaking of of going back in time and using things like papyrus, I don't know, I thought the beginning of the movie kind of threw me off a little bit. 00:29:35.326 --> 00:29:41.587 It actually made me pause and go to like go and read websites, because there was no mention. 00:29:41.587 --> 00:29:52.096 Before moses is sent down the river, you see the soldiers moving in the background oh, but for a formative movie right for a children's movie right. 00:29:52.777 --> 00:29:57.304 there was no like decree, like heard like firstborn. 00:29:57.304 --> 00:30:03.583 You know, son, you know Hebrew boys will be killed because yes, I sat there and I went why is she sending them away? 00:30:03.974 --> 00:30:10.862 And, like I know, I was kind of naive in the moment, but I was like her two other kids are fine, why is she only sending this one away? 00:30:10.862 --> 00:30:23.297 I was really kind of thrown off for a second because I remembered it in my head that I knew the announcement was made, so that's why they did this right, or that's why she had to make this decision right. 00:30:23.297 --> 00:30:24.641 And then it doesn't get. 00:30:24.641 --> 00:30:39.198 You know, we find out later, obviously, but in the moment, especially because that's the most screen time the mom gets, you figure, it's just like I'm, all I see is her running away and then just sending one of her kids down the river and that's it. 00:30:39.198 --> 00:30:52.887 So I, you know, I went to catholic school and everything growing up, so I was wait a minute, I'm like I've heard this story before like this isn't right, you know, and I think the liberties they took were just difficult for me because I, because you know the story. 00:30:52.928 --> 00:31:02.481 So well and yeah, I, I'm also in the same boat where the account is very clear After she, you know, sends him into the river and is found by Pharaoh's daughter. 00:31:02.481 --> 00:31:14.599 She's raised by Pharaoh's daughter, but Miriam Moses's sister kind of tricks Pharaoh's daughter into you know, calling for you know, like a wet nurse. 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.729 And that wet nurse nurse, quote unquote is actually moses's real mother. 00:31:18.729 --> 00:31:23.728 So moses's real mother raises moses as the son of the daughter of pharaoh. 00:31:24.529 --> 00:31:31.567 so she should have been in the movie more, yeah yeah, and that kind of that threw me off because it gave me this. 00:31:31.567 --> 00:31:36.365 I was just like why is she, you know, doing all this? 00:31:36.365 --> 00:31:40.037 And then that's it, and then we don't see her ever, and that was a little. 00:31:40.037 --> 00:31:48.049 And then that also creates the moment later in the movie where Moses had completely no idea and he ran. 00:31:49.275 --> 00:31:50.076 And it just look. 00:31:50.076 --> 00:31:53.626 I'm going to say this about any time I read a book before I watch a movie. 00:31:53.626 --> 00:31:56.541 The way I saw it in my head is the way it's. 00:31:56.541 --> 00:31:59.657 That's the canon, all right, and if you change it. 00:31:59.657 --> 00:32:01.502 I'm going to be disgruntled. 00:32:02.104 --> 00:32:02.585 I like that. 00:32:02.585 --> 00:32:04.888 I like that a lot and I feel the same way. 00:32:04.888 --> 00:32:14.304 Actually, I think, because I wasn't so critical of the adaptive qualities when I was a kid I look over everything like that. 00:32:14.304 --> 00:32:29.991 But you know, as an adult who has you know, like over everything like that, but you know, as an adult who has, you know, like, obviously, read this account, it's, it's a little bit harder to swallow and, yeah, it's, it's not up there with the most like faithful biblical adaptations out there. 00:32:31.055 --> 00:32:54.178 But like, for instance, he finds out, like it they said they set this all into motion so that he can have this dramatic reveal that he isn't actually Egyptian but one of the Hebrews, one of the slaves, and that sets him on a path that eventually leads him to, you know, killing one of the enforcers who's whipping a Hebrew slave In the movie. 00:32:54.178 --> 00:32:54.720 That makes sense. 00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.976 Slave in the movie, that makes sense. 00:33:00.976 --> 00:33:07.336 But in the reality of the, the story that's told in exodus, he knew he was a hebrew growing up it says that he was, you know, sympathetic to the cause of the slaves. 00:33:07.336 --> 00:33:10.626 Like that was part of his personality, you know. 00:33:10.626 --> 00:33:16.823 But yeah, if we're gonna be like really critical about every single thing that they changed. 00:33:16.823 --> 00:33:22.462 We'd be talking for like two hours, but yeah yeah man, anthony, what a good old your thoughts on? 00:33:22.923 --> 00:33:26.959 what are your thoughts on the like changes like that? 00:33:26.959 --> 00:33:27.840 Do you mind as much? 00:33:28.442 --> 00:33:47.509 I mean you don't like you know growing up and and reading the and and like knowing the story you know, yeah, it hits you with, hey, that's not right, but from an entertainment perspective not all the changes were bad. 00:33:47.509 --> 00:33:57.326 I mean, I guess depending on who you ask, it can be bad, but I guess for the movie purposes it wasn't bad. 00:33:59.634 --> 00:34:02.540 It gets most of the beats right, right, that's what that's. 00:34:02.761 --> 00:34:04.766 That's where I kind of fall with it. 00:34:04.766 --> 00:34:10.570 Like, at the end of the day, moses does get the people out of egypt, like that's right, right, right. 00:34:10.869 --> 00:34:16.244 I think, like some of the like major things that happen, you know, like the burning bush. 00:34:16.244 --> 00:34:22.302 Yeah, you know, the brush is actually that's a fantastic scene yeah, it gives me chills every time I watch it. 00:34:22.342 --> 00:34:24.998 You know, take your sandals off, you're standing on holy ground. 00:34:24.998 --> 00:34:25.661 That's so good. 00:34:25.661 --> 00:34:33.900 And now that I know that val kilmer was talking to himself in that scene, it just kind of elevates that performance even more. 00:34:33.961 --> 00:34:40.369 He's in a sound booth doing both parts and that he's like all right he had two. 00:34:40.369 --> 00:34:46.746 He had two mics and he had to like run back and forth one had a little bit more reverb so yeah 00:34:46.925 --> 00:34:47.648 like what I? 00:34:47.648 --> 00:35:04.681 I just, and I'm sure there's there's a way to find out right, but you have so many different actors like big name actors for this movie and val kilmer gets two roles like I, I, somebody else, it could have been a nice little easter egg. 00:35:04.681 --> 00:35:10.628 Or I mean like maybe mr feeney you know he had, just he wasn't mr feeney yet you know he had finished night writer. 00:35:10.628 --> 00:35:17.847 Uh, that would have been, I don't know, I just it's a weird, unless like that was in the contract, why would he get both? 00:35:18.795 --> 00:35:20.322 Maybe he really liked this story. 00:35:20.322 --> 00:35:22.402 I don't know, maybe he was just like I got to get. 00:35:22.402 --> 00:35:36.989 Maybe he signed on for Moses and you know, while in the recording booth you know he like did a couple lines and they're like, oh, I kind of like that it's also, it's not really uncommon for somebody to get multiple roles in an animation. 00:35:39.795 --> 00:35:41.518 And the thing is is, is that like so, something that dakota said earlier? 00:35:41.518 --> 00:35:46.215 Why would you hire this whole other person to speak a few lines in a movie? 00:35:46.215 --> 00:35:50.965 You know so, like they already had like a cast set. 00:35:50.965 --> 00:35:58.925 I mean, it could have been somebody else within the cast, yeah, of course, but they decided to go with val kilmer. 00:35:58.925 --> 00:36:03.442 But yeah, like I, I, I don't think that you know they're somebody. 00:36:03.442 --> 00:36:06.556 Getting a double role in the movie was was a bad thing. 00:36:06.556 --> 00:36:08.563 I mean, I see it all the time. 00:36:08.563 --> 00:36:10.126 Video games do it. 00:36:10.126 --> 00:36:10.989 Anime, definitely. 00:36:10.989 --> 00:36:12.996 Yeah, anime, oh my gosh, dude, anime. 00:36:12.996 --> 00:36:21.769 If you look at some of these credits in an anime, like you know some of the people they'll have credit for voicing like five people, dude, it's crazy. 00:36:21.769 --> 00:36:31.851 But dude, you knew that the voice of God was Val Kilmer, but you didn't know that it was Moses, so he did a good enough performance to separate himself. 00:36:32.052 --> 00:36:32.954 They're definitely separate. 00:36:33.034 --> 00:36:35.516 Yeah, exactly, exactly so. 00:36:35.516 --> 00:36:37.163 I think he did a great job. 00:36:38.494 --> 00:36:39.336