1 00:00:00,321 --> 00:00:04,312 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode 118 of Project Geekology. 2 00:00:04,312 --> 00:00:07,947 And now that you're tuning in, we were actually just in the 3 00:00:08,006 --> 00:00:09,871 middle of planning our heist. 4 00:00:09,871 --> 00:00:15,471 We're trying to steal a whole bunch of credits from the 5 00:00:15,532 --> 00:00:16,213 Imperials. 6 00:00:16,213 --> 00:00:22,432 So you know, listen in as our plans unfold on this heist. 7 00:00:22,432 --> 00:00:27,423 You're not supposed to tell these people what we're doing in 8 00:00:27,423 --> 00:00:31,036 advance of our heist I am one of your hosts, anthony, and this 9 00:00:31,036 --> 00:00:35,524 week we are covering the first six episodes of season one of 10 00:00:35,744 --> 00:00:36,185 andor. 11 00:00:36,185 --> 00:00:41,954 Joining me, as always, is dakota, and yeah, we're. 12 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:45,585 Speaker 2: We were at least planning on stealing, you know, 13 00:00:45,665 --> 00:00:48,591 a whole quarter's worth of Imperial payroll for the sector, 14 00:00:48,591 --> 00:00:50,475 but that's out the window. 15 00:00:50,475 --> 00:00:55,509 You might as well tell them it was on Aldani and right on that 16 00:00:55,570 --> 00:00:56,451 Alkenzi airstrip. 17 00:00:56,451 --> 00:00:58,267 That's what we were going to do . 18 00:00:58,267 --> 00:00:59,823 We're going to go to the next sector, though. 19 00:00:59,823 --> 00:01:01,466 We're going to figure something out. 20 00:01:01,466 --> 00:01:02,689 Yes, my name is Dakota. 21 00:01:02,689 --> 00:01:03,692 We're doing Andor. 22 00:01:03,692 --> 00:01:09,620 I'm really excited, specifically the first six 23 00:01:09,641 --> 00:01:10,483 episodes of andor, season one. 24 00:01:10,483 --> 00:01:12,406 Next week, we're gonna do the final six episodes of the first 25 00:01:12,426 --> 00:01:16,192 season of andor and, yeah, we are also joined with rich and I 26 00:01:16,233 --> 00:01:19,462 just gotta say you guys gotta keep screwing it up. 27 00:01:19,503 --> 00:01:23,768 Speaker 3: Your uncle harlow would be so disappointed in you, 28 00:01:23,768 --> 00:01:24,709 anthony. 29 00:01:24,709 --> 00:01:29,135 He keeps giving you these opportunities and then you throw 30 00:01:29,135 --> 00:01:30,555 them all away. 31 00:01:30,555 --> 00:01:35,248 Yes, you are joined this week by your favorite character, 32 00:01:35,409 --> 00:01:36,653 cyril's mom. 33 00:01:36,653 --> 00:01:39,346 It's a pleasure to be here. 34 00:01:39,567 --> 00:01:41,825 Speaker 4: I'm sure that was pretty good. 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,384 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure which character that was at first, 36 00:01:44,463 --> 00:01:48,811 because a lot of uh, a lot of accent going on there in my head 37 00:01:48,811 --> 00:01:48,811 . 38 00:01:49,090 --> 00:01:51,734 Speaker 1: You were the like that I think you're 39 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:54,911 impersonating your uncle, or something I thought he was 40 00:01:54,971 --> 00:01:57,962 impersonating that secretary from like monsters inc. 41 00:01:57,962 --> 00:02:02,253 Oh, yes, yes like a guy version it's kind of. 42 00:02:02,313 --> 00:02:04,298 Speaker 4: it's kind of like an amalgam of, really, my 43 00:02:04,378 --> 00:02:07,944 mother-in-law and that lady from Monsters Inc and the mother 44 00:02:07,963 --> 00:02:08,445 from Andor. 45 00:02:09,980 --> 00:02:12,469 Speaker 2: Cyril's mom has a much scratchier voice. 46 00:02:12,469 --> 00:02:14,385 There is accent there. 47 00:02:14,385 --> 00:02:19,728 I think it's more British than anything but it's like I can't 48 00:02:19,768 --> 00:02:20,150 even do it. 49 00:02:21,262 --> 00:02:22,105 Speaker 4: It's so terrible. 50 00:02:22,105 --> 00:02:26,169 We're going to hear a lot about that lady, but I don't like her 51 00:02:26,169 --> 00:02:30,328 not a fan great actress, though good in a pinch, if you got the 52 00:02:30,328 --> 00:02:30,990 mentors around. 53 00:02:31,531 --> 00:02:34,563 Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, that's right, that's right all 54 00:02:34,604 --> 00:02:35,445 right, all righty. 55 00:02:35,485 --> 00:02:38,051 Speaker 1: So let's kind of start this off rich. 56 00:02:38,051 --> 00:02:39,901 What have you been up to, oh? 57 00:02:39,942 --> 00:02:40,163 Speaker 4: let's. 58 00:02:40,163 --> 00:02:40,903 Let's see. 59 00:02:40,903 --> 00:02:45,052 I've been playing ml as always, attending way too many met 60 00:02:45,092 --> 00:02:45,514 games. 61 00:02:45,514 --> 00:02:48,748 I'm actually thinking about getting the Oblivion remaster. 62 00:02:48,748 --> 00:02:54,778 I remember I bought Oblivion and traded it in and bought it 63 00:02:54,818 --> 00:02:59,883 again and then traded it in and bought it a third time, because 64 00:03:00,185 --> 00:03:03,532 I remember being so overwhelmed by the game. 65 00:03:03,532 --> 00:03:07,722 I started playing the first time and my friend came over and 66 00:03:07,722 --> 00:03:08,985 he's like, how are you dealing with the gates? 67 00:03:08,985 --> 00:03:09,989 And I was like, what are the gates? 68 00:03:09,989 --> 00:03:14,572 And then when the gate started, I was like, oh no, so I'm a 69 00:03:14,611 --> 00:03:17,500 little hesitant, just because the price point. 70 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:21,026 I don't know if I want to pay $50 for a remaster of a game 71 00:03:21,066 --> 00:03:22,026 from 2007. 72 00:03:22,467 --> 00:03:26,675 But a student threw down a gauntlet this week and he wants 73 00:03:26,715 --> 00:03:32,169 to know if he's able to beat oblivion remaster before the end 74 00:03:32,169 --> 00:03:36,084 of the school year, if that can count as his portfolio for the 75 00:03:36,123 --> 00:03:36,586 class. 76 00:03:36,586 --> 00:03:39,796 And I said yes, because I don't think he's going to be able to 77 00:03:39,836 --> 00:03:40,117 do it. 78 00:03:40,117 --> 00:03:41,081 I just don't. 79 00:03:41,081 --> 00:03:44,978 I mean, they made the leveling easier but I just, I just don't 80 00:03:44,997 --> 00:03:46,342 think he's gonna be able to do it. 81 00:03:46,342 --> 00:03:48,225 So, uh, I uh. 82 00:03:48,225 --> 00:03:51,171 And, by the way, just as a side note, I never give hundreds. 83 00:03:51,171 --> 00:03:55,753 I teach honors level classes and I kind of say you know you 84 00:03:55,794 --> 00:03:57,360 can't be perfect, so you can't get a hundred. 85 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,068 So this, I'm breaking my own rule just to see if this child 86 00:04:02,129 --> 00:04:03,712 can beat oblivion. 87 00:04:03,752 --> 00:04:08,182 Speaker 1: Remastered rule, just to see if this child can beat 88 00:04:08,203 --> 00:04:08,584 oblivion, remastered. 89 00:04:08,604 --> 00:04:09,385 Speaker 4: Like how would you even know if he did? 90 00:04:09,385 --> 00:04:09,486 Like. 91 00:04:09,486 --> 00:04:09,768 Oh, he's loyal. 92 00:04:09,768 --> 00:04:10,871 He's sending me screenshots. 93 00:04:10,871 --> 00:04:14,462 Apparently he named the character dick laconi as an 94 00:04:14,543 --> 00:04:18,095 homage to me while insulting me, and then he asked me my son's 95 00:04:18,175 --> 00:04:20,882 name and then 10 minutes later said, hey, my horse's name is 96 00:04:20,942 --> 00:04:21,343 charlie. 97 00:04:21,343 --> 00:04:22,526 So there's that. 98 00:04:22,526 --> 00:04:24,850 So he's sending me constant updates. 99 00:04:24,850 --> 00:04:29,148 I found him to be an honest young man when talking about 100 00:04:29,267 --> 00:04:31,353 pokemon trading card game pocket . 101 00:04:31,353 --> 00:04:35,624 So I'm kind of honestly, this might be the most exciting thing 102 00:04:35,624 --> 00:04:39,533 that happens, then, for the next uh, the next month and a 103 00:04:39,572 --> 00:04:42,446 half, because I don't think he's gonna be able to do it. 104 00:04:42,446 --> 00:04:43,949 It's a hard game. 105 00:04:44,170 --> 00:04:45,961 Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to give me the opportunity, because 106 00:04:45,961 --> 00:04:46,966 I would literally do it. 107 00:04:46,966 --> 00:04:49,322 I would play like Dude. 108 00:04:49,322 --> 00:04:51,620 You know me, I'm a gamer Dude. 109 00:04:51,620 --> 00:04:53,247 I'd be like, yep, I'm hopping on that. 110 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:55,004 Speaker 4: Well, I told him he's got to do a presentation. 111 00:04:55,024 --> 00:04:56,809 Speaker 1: I'm getting graded for this Okay, yeah, I bet I'm 112 00:04:56,848 --> 00:04:57,170 doing this. 113 00:05:05,939 --> 00:05:07,603 Speaker 4: He and I told him that like this has to be the 114 00:05:07,702 --> 00:05:08,946 presentation, like his journey to try to get to this. 115 00:05:08,946 --> 00:05:11,209 So I'm honestly really excited for what's going to happen. 116 00:05:11,209 --> 00:05:14,983 I have no idea how this is going to turn out, but this 117 00:05:15,064 --> 00:05:17,690 might be a really fun end of year presentation to be able to 118 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:18,031 watch. 119 00:05:18,031 --> 00:05:21,072 So I obviously can't share it with you guys or anything like 120 00:05:21,113 --> 00:05:22,761 that, but that's what I've been up to. 121 00:05:22,761 --> 00:05:24,805 But what have you been up to, anthonyony? 122 00:05:24,865 --> 00:05:25,326 Speaker 2: oh, hold on. 123 00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:27,629 I want to, you know, mention something that you mentioned 124 00:05:28,050 --> 00:05:30,100 just prior to the start of the recording. 125 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:34,269 You mentioned that you had gotten students into star wars 126 00:05:35,011 --> 00:05:37,887 and that you felt extremely proud as a teacher, because 127 00:05:37,906 --> 00:05:39,151 that's a huge life accomplishment. 128 00:05:39,151 --> 00:05:40,980 Tell us about that yeah. 129 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,031 Speaker 4: So, like, forget getting college credit, forget 130 00:05:44,132 --> 00:05:46,862 being prepared to write good essays when you're in college. 131 00:05:46,862 --> 00:05:51,877 I, as part of my macbeth unit, include revenge of the sith, 132 00:05:52,158 --> 00:05:52,920 which is amazing. 133 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,589 I took I kind of like went on a lark, but I wanted to. 134 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:59,641 I wanted them to see the hero's kind of journey and the fall of 135 00:05:59,641 --> 00:06:04,050 a hero and I thought that I would start off with revenge of 136 00:06:04,110 --> 00:06:05,333 of the Sith and see if it worked . 137 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:05,894 And it worked. 138 00:06:05,894 --> 00:06:08,004 So I've been teaching it for now. 139 00:06:08,206 --> 00:06:10,911 I think that this is my second year doing it and a couple of my 140 00:06:10,911 --> 00:06:13,447 students were supposed to be doing test prep the other day 141 00:06:13,466 --> 00:06:16,324 and I walked by and I said, are you watching Kenobi? 142 00:06:16,324 --> 00:06:20,055 And she was like, yes, I am watching Kenobi. 143 00:06:20,055 --> 00:06:21,199 I was like, why are you doing that? 144 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:22,242 Like, well, it's your fault. 145 00:06:22,242 --> 00:06:24,646 You got us into Star Wars, so we just started watching 146 00:06:24,685 --> 00:06:25,067 everything. 147 00:06:25,067 --> 00:06:28,312 And they then talked about how they were going to go see 148 00:06:28,574 --> 00:06:31,387 Revenge of the Sith in theaters that night and I was like, but 149 00:06:31,406 --> 00:06:34,084 you guys just watched it in class like for four days with me 150 00:06:34,084 --> 00:06:34,084 . 151 00:06:34,084 --> 00:06:36,213 And they're like, yeah, but we get to see it in theaters now. 152 00:06:36,213 --> 00:06:40,125 So I think the greatest accomplishment I probably will 153 00:06:40,165 --> 00:06:43,375 have is that as a teacher is definitely the fact that I got 154 00:06:43,415 --> 00:06:45,821 kids into star wars like forget about anything else. 155 00:06:45,821 --> 00:06:48,668 Like I taught a kid who got into yale last year like that 156 00:06:48,769 --> 00:06:52,043 great, awesome, that was cool and congratulations. 157 00:06:52,524 --> 00:06:54,930 Speaker 2: But more important than yale, I think, is uh, star 158 00:06:54,949 --> 00:06:58,624 wars universe that is more important, I would say, and I 159 00:06:58,663 --> 00:07:01,690 was telling you that's particularly cool, not just 160 00:07:01,730 --> 00:07:05,709 because you know they're, they're watching not only the 161 00:07:05,769 --> 00:07:07,502 films but they're diving into the shows. 162 00:07:07,502 --> 00:07:11,091 And what's great about star wars is that there's always new 163 00:07:11,132 --> 00:07:15,889 star wars content may not be, you know, always on the screen. 164 00:07:15,889 --> 00:07:18,502 A lot of it's like, you know, comics and novels and stuff. 165 00:07:18,502 --> 00:07:23,177 But lucasfilm has no plans of, you know, stopping their visual 166 00:07:23,197 --> 00:07:24,079 star wars content. 167 00:07:24,079 --> 00:07:26,862 We just got a bunch of news on new stuff. 168 00:07:26,862 --> 00:07:28,848 You know there's going to be a mall animated series. 169 00:07:28,848 --> 00:07:30,471 There's going to be. 170 00:07:30,471 --> 00:07:33,865 Well, we know that there's a dawn of the jedi movie that's 171 00:07:34,086 --> 00:07:34,507 coming out. 172 00:07:34,507 --> 00:07:36,942 That takes place 25 000 years in the past. 173 00:07:36,942 --> 00:07:38,870 There's going to be a ray sequel. 174 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:41,860 There's going to be a couple movies coming out as well as you 175 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:44,348 know, new seasons of, you know, live action shows. 176 00:07:44,348 --> 00:07:45,391 We have and or coming out. 177 00:07:45,391 --> 00:07:49,048 Currently we have ahsoka, isn't there like a ventress thing 178 00:07:49,067 --> 00:07:49,728 dropping too. 179 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:55,367 There is the tales of the underground. 180 00:07:55,367 --> 00:07:56,310 I think it's what it's called. 181 00:07:56,310 --> 00:08:03,250 It's gonna be yeah it's gonna be half ventress, half cad bane 182 00:08:03,531 --> 00:08:06,223 kind of like the tales of the jedi, tales of the sith stuff 183 00:08:06,242 --> 00:08:08,692 that came out, or no, tales of the jedi, tales of the empire. 184 00:08:08,692 --> 00:08:12,565 That came out, yeah, the past two years, so that's really 185 00:08:12,605 --> 00:08:13,007 exciting. 186 00:08:13,007 --> 00:08:16,576 Love those little mini series that they come out with yeah, 187 00:08:16,620 --> 00:08:18,346 those are really cool and yeah, there's a. 188 00:08:18,387 --> 00:08:21,360 There's a lot of star wars content, so like seeing that 189 00:08:21,579 --> 00:08:25,086 your students, or students plural are getting into the 190 00:08:25,166 --> 00:08:28,833 wider world of Star Wars just because they happened to be in a 191 00:08:28,833 --> 00:08:31,016 classroom where they had to watch Revenge of the Sith. 192 00:08:31,016 --> 00:08:31,377 For a. 193 00:08:31,377 --> 00:08:32,820 Macbeth segment. 194 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:35,706 I think that's pretty cool because you've given them a 195 00:08:35,765 --> 00:08:38,610 fandom that they can tap into whenever they want for the rest 196 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:40,014 of their life, because it's always going to be around. 197 00:08:40,899 --> 00:08:43,388 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the great, that's the crazy thing 198 00:08:43,428 --> 00:08:43,769 about it. 199 00:08:43,769 --> 00:08:46,982 Yeah, so that's the great, that's the crazy thing about it. 200 00:08:46,982 --> 00:08:48,566 You know, it's just going from being the weirdo who read all 201 00:08:48,586 --> 00:08:50,990 the legends material and, you know, was going to bars and 202 00:08:51,010 --> 00:08:53,785 nobles and waiting for the new timothy zahn books to come out, 203 00:08:54,327 --> 00:08:58,159 to now it being so mainstream that you know you hear about it 204 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,062 in class the next thing. 205 00:08:59,062 --> 00:09:01,470 You know you're you're just kind of binging it on disney. 206 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:02,860 It's pretty cool, I don't know. 207 00:09:02,860 --> 00:09:06,028 I never thought that I could rob taxpayer money and 208 00:09:06,128 --> 00:09:08,514 indoctrinate children into Star Wars fandom. 209 00:09:08,514 --> 00:09:10,701 But here we are, ladies and gentlemen, I'm living the 210 00:09:10,741 --> 00:09:11,325 American dream. 211 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:16,831 Speaker 2: Guys, not only are we planning to, you know, stage a 212 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:20,908 heist against the Empire, we're also robbing taxpayers of their 213 00:09:20,948 --> 00:09:21,129 money. 214 00:09:21,129 --> 00:09:22,946 It's a good time. 215 00:09:22,946 --> 00:09:25,919 It's a good time out here, anthony. 216 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:27,043 Let's jump over to you, whatever you went out to. 217 00:09:27,063 --> 00:09:31,135 Speaker 1: I have also been doing some star wars related 218 00:09:31,176 --> 00:09:35,207 stuff and that, and that's not just you know. 219 00:09:35,207 --> 00:09:39,078 Obviously I've been watching and or in preparation of this 220 00:09:39,139 --> 00:09:39,480 episode. 221 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,585 But I saw revenge of the sith. 222 00:09:41,585 --> 00:09:44,591 They brought it back to theaters for its 20th 223 00:09:44,672 --> 00:09:51,260 anniversary and, yeah, man, I saw it yesterday in 40X and, 224 00:09:51,301 --> 00:09:53,970 dude, that experience was crazy. 225 00:09:53,970 --> 00:09:56,006 I've never seen a movie in 40X. 226 00:09:56,006 --> 00:10:00,005 I've done 40X stuff in like theme parks, but I've never seen 227 00:10:00,005 --> 00:10:05,975 like a full, like you know, two plus hour movie in 40x and, 228 00:10:06,015 --> 00:10:08,820 dude, it was a wild ride, man, it was a wild ride. 229 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:10,224 That's awesome, that's awesome. 230 00:10:10,663 --> 00:10:13,230 Speaker 2: I think I only have like two days left to watch 231 00:10:14,231 --> 00:10:17,769 revenge of the sith in theater, so I'm going to try over the 232 00:10:17,789 --> 00:10:20,980 next two days to make it to that , because I do actually want to 233 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:21,962 do a 40x showing. 234 00:10:22,302 --> 00:10:25,711 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, we'll see if you do, if not, if you do 235 00:10:25,711 --> 00:10:28,663 go to a 40x showing, you know, like. 236 00:10:28,663 --> 00:10:32,051 So they they use some of the effects for, like the trailers 237 00:10:32,091 --> 00:10:32,511 they did. 238 00:10:32,511 --> 00:10:36,808 They showed a live action trailer for how to train your 239 00:10:36,828 --> 00:10:40,043 dragon and they showed like some of the effects during that and 240 00:10:40,062 --> 00:10:42,850 then they did some of the effects during the thunderbolt. 241 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:45,243 So I'm assuming that there's gonna be 40x for both. 242 00:10:45,243 --> 00:10:49,652 But, dude, like I I knew the seats were gonna like move and 243 00:10:49,672 --> 00:10:52,524 stuff, but I didn't think that they were going to like try to 244 00:10:52,625 --> 00:10:53,927 throw me out of the seats. 245 00:10:53,927 --> 00:10:58,508 Dude, like I was gonna get whiplash watching that movie. 246 00:10:58,508 --> 00:11:00,032 Like it was crazy. 247 00:11:00,032 --> 00:11:03,461 Like that intro sequence where you know they're fighting the 248 00:11:03,501 --> 00:11:07,328 space battle over coruscant was like I, like I'm getting rocked 249 00:11:07,389 --> 00:11:10,695 around, like seriously like boo, like dude, I'm like what is 250 00:11:10,820 --> 00:11:11,621 going on? 251 00:11:11,621 --> 00:11:12,765 This is crazy. 252 00:11:12,765 --> 00:11:16,897 I didn't realize it was going to be that insane that's cool 253 00:11:17,138 --> 00:11:19,163 but it was fun though they had. 254 00:11:19,744 --> 00:11:22,792 There was like mist, there's air like getting like kind of blown 255 00:11:22,792 --> 00:11:22,971 like. 256 00:11:22,971 --> 00:11:24,210 If there was kind of like blast or fire going on, they would 257 00:11:24,171 --> 00:11:24,864 like you know there would be like a there's air like getting 258 00:11:24,825 --> 00:11:25,070 like kind of blown like. 259 00:11:25,070 --> 00:11:26,140 If there was kind of like blast or fire going on, they would 260 00:11:26,181 --> 00:11:29,089 like you know there would be like a gust of air like blowing 261 00:11:29,129 --> 00:11:32,024 past your ear or like kind of like towards you from in front 262 00:11:32,065 --> 00:11:32,365 of you. 263 00:11:32,365 --> 00:11:34,049 Parts that had water. 264 00:11:34,049 --> 00:11:36,465 Like you know, when they were fighting on Kashyyyk there was 265 00:11:36,485 --> 00:11:39,251 like moments with water, like explosions in the water would 266 00:11:39,299 --> 00:11:42,466 like prompt like water getting like shot out at you during, 267 00:11:42,486 --> 00:11:46,764 during the part where there was rain, when Anakin is getting 268 00:11:46,803 --> 00:11:50,120 brought to the medical center, there was a little bit of water 269 00:11:50,421 --> 00:11:51,466 coming down from that. 270 00:11:51,466 --> 00:11:55,426 It's not like they were raining you crazy with water, it's more 271 00:11:55,426 --> 00:11:57,225 of little spritzes here and there. 272 00:11:57,225 --> 00:12:00,804 I thought it was interesting Stuff that had steam. 273 00:12:00,804 --> 00:12:04,465 You could hear the steam and they would shoot out. 274 00:12:04,465 --> 00:12:07,951 There would be like a little bit of like kind of a mist, like 275 00:12:07,951 --> 00:12:09,957 being like kind of blown out and stuff. 276 00:12:09,957 --> 00:12:11,802 It was cool, man it was. 277 00:12:11,802 --> 00:12:13,346 It was definitely. 278 00:12:13,647 --> 00:12:17,134 I've seen revenge of the sith in like just many ways. 279 00:12:17,134 --> 00:12:21,225 I've seen it in theaters, I've seen it, you know, on a project, 280 00:12:21,225 --> 00:12:25,812 on like home projector tv, on my phone, whatever, but I've 281 00:12:25,873 --> 00:12:30,489 never experienced it as like a ride and that was crazy, dude. 282 00:12:30,489 --> 00:12:32,495 Yeah, that sounds awesome. 283 00:12:32,495 --> 00:12:36,124 Yeah, man, I, I, definitely I recommend it. 284 00:12:36,163 --> 00:12:38,328 Speaker 2: But, dude, just be prepared, man, like you might 285 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:42,125 feel a little beat up the next day yeah, is it possible to get 286 00:12:42,164 --> 00:12:45,392 like really nauseous on those seats, I imagine, especially in 287 00:12:45,412 --> 00:12:46,280 that first intro? 288 00:12:47,022 --> 00:12:47,864 Speaker 1: I feel crazy. 289 00:12:47,864 --> 00:12:48,745 I feel like you. 290 00:12:48,745 --> 00:12:53,354 Some people may get nauseous, but I actually I felt fine as 291 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:53,980 far as that. 292 00:12:53,980 --> 00:12:57,207 It was just like, oh my gosh, like I'm like dude. 293 00:12:57,207 --> 00:12:59,860 I left that and I was like man, I feel a little sore. 294 00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:02,346 I woke up this morning definitely like I felt a little 295 00:13:02,405 --> 00:13:06,421 sore, but also it didn't help with the fact that, like, I went 296 00:13:06,421 --> 00:13:07,884 to the gym prior to that. 297 00:13:07,985 --> 00:13:13,581 So oh, yeah, so so I'm like sore from the gym, I'm sore from 298 00:13:13,621 --> 00:13:16,607 getting like beat up by by the seat in the movie theater. 299 00:13:16,607 --> 00:13:18,773 It was, yeah, no, it was. 300 00:13:18,773 --> 00:13:22,144 It was fun, though, man, I definitely, I definitely 301 00:13:22,544 --> 00:13:24,028 recommend like checking it out. 302 00:13:25,169 --> 00:13:27,573 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm going to have to jump on that. 303 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:29,466 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what have you been up to? 304 00:13:29,466 --> 00:13:32,730 I haven't had any big things happening. 305 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:35,636 Speaker 2: I finished watching Severance Crazy show. 306 00:13:35,798 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Nice. 307 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,729 Speaker 2: Absolutely just top tier. 308 00:13:38,729 --> 00:13:43,129 Everything on Apple TV that I've seen is in that league of 309 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:44,572 HBO quality shows. 310 00:13:44,572 --> 00:13:51,302 Tv that I've seen is in that league of HBO quality shows 311 00:13:51,322 --> 00:13:52,706 Right now I would say like HBO, prime and certain Netflix shows. 312 00:13:52,706 --> 00:13:55,714 But Netflix isn't really on that level and Apple TV are kind 313 00:13:55,714 --> 00:13:56,660 of like in the league of their own. 314 00:13:56,660 --> 00:14:00,249 We're like HBO, apple TV and Amazon Prime kind of have that 315 00:14:00,951 --> 00:14:05,349 pinnacle of you know just prestige storytelling on a small 316 00:14:05,349 --> 00:14:05,629 screen. 317 00:14:05,629 --> 00:14:06,660 And it's so good. 318 00:14:07,101 --> 00:14:08,264 Severance is fantastic. 319 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:09,167 Highly recommend it. 320 00:14:09,167 --> 00:14:16,023 Just a really novel sci-fi concept, just the idea that you 321 00:14:16,062 --> 00:14:21,432 know, in this universe which is it's a very similar universe to 322 00:14:21,513 --> 00:14:27,017 our own, but there is a company that has developed the ability 323 00:14:27,217 --> 00:14:30,524 to sever one's mind when you enter the workplace. 324 00:14:30,524 --> 00:14:35,280 So basically, you are now essentially a new person when 325 00:14:35,301 --> 00:14:36,263 you enter the workspace. 326 00:14:36,263 --> 00:14:41,714 Like that part of your mind has no memory of your life outside 327 00:14:41,754 --> 00:14:44,683 of work and your life outside of work has no memory of what you 328 00:14:44,724 --> 00:14:45,745 did inside work. 329 00:14:45,745 --> 00:14:50,211 So essentially, you kind of diverge into a separate being 330 00:14:50,893 --> 00:14:55,144 and it comes with all the philosophical stuff that you 331 00:14:55,184 --> 00:15:00,061 would, you know, assume or, like you know, think would arise in 332 00:15:00,381 --> 00:15:02,687 a world where that is a thing you know, like the idea of, 333 00:15:02,787 --> 00:15:06,885 would that individual part of you that they call it an any you 334 00:15:06,885 --> 00:15:09,154 know it's your inner self that you don't know. 335 00:15:09,697 --> 00:15:11,121 Does that get a separate soul? 336 00:15:11,121 --> 00:15:14,374 It starts getting almost like religious in some aspects. 337 00:15:14,374 --> 00:15:16,601 It's just a really fascinating concept. 338 00:15:16,601 --> 00:15:21,110 They really explore it really well and I'm excited for season 339 00:15:21,250 --> 00:15:21,532 two. 340 00:15:21,532 --> 00:15:25,148 Did I ever tell you guys like I might be partially responsible 341 00:15:25,207 --> 00:15:29,105 for why severance season two was , you know, so late? 342 00:15:29,105 --> 00:15:30,188 What do you mean? 343 00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:32,754 Speaker 1: yeah, what are you talking about? 344 00:15:32,774 --> 00:15:35,044 Speaker 2: so severance season two is like it was like 345 00:15:35,085 --> 00:15:38,121 notoriously pushed back and pushed back and pushed back, and 346 00:15:38,121 --> 00:15:42,993 I literally might be you know part and parcel as to like why 347 00:15:43,133 --> 00:15:44,115 it got pushed back. 348 00:15:44,115 --> 00:15:47,844 I I'm like I've I don't think I've ever said it online, but 349 00:15:47,904 --> 00:15:49,369 it's, it's kind of a funny story . 350 00:15:49,369 --> 00:15:54,524 So I do electrical work and I was working for a company that 351 00:15:54,604 --> 00:15:59,477 happened to have the contract for the lionsgate movie studios 352 00:16:00,038 --> 00:16:02,544 that they were building in yonkers oh, I remember that that 353 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:02,904 was like a. 354 00:16:02,924 --> 00:16:03,466 Speaker 1: Was that a? 355 00:16:03,466 --> 00:16:05,630 Was that like a little while ago that was a while back. 356 00:16:06,192 --> 00:16:06,953 Speaker 2: This was a while back . 357 00:16:06,953 --> 00:16:08,244 Yeah, it was about a year ago. 358 00:16:08,244 --> 00:16:11,034 I was working out there A little more than a year ago 359 00:16:11,115 --> 00:16:13,265 actually, it was probably a year and a half ago that I was 360 00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:18,024 working at those studios and I was responsible for all of the 361 00:16:18,085 --> 00:16:20,688 fire alarm in the buildings and that's a big job. 362 00:16:20,688 --> 00:16:22,932 Those are are studios are massive. 363 00:16:22,932 --> 00:16:25,095 You know you're going to need a lot of fire equipment. 364 00:16:25,095 --> 00:16:27,777 You don't necessarily need smoke detectors in the place 365 00:16:27,797 --> 00:16:29,878 where they film because they use pyrotechnics in there and 366 00:16:29,918 --> 00:16:30,217 everything. 367 00:16:30,217 --> 00:16:32,148 So that would go off pretty often. 368 00:16:32,148 --> 00:16:34,686 But you know, throughout the entire building, office spaces 369 00:16:34,706 --> 00:16:35,126 and everything. 370 00:16:35,589 --> 00:16:40,202 I was the one who did all the fire alarm solely and I kept 371 00:16:40,283 --> 00:16:42,269 asking my company please give me more guys. 372 00:16:42,269 --> 00:16:43,162 I'm on the gun here. 373 00:16:43,162 --> 00:16:46,307 They need a temporary certificate of occupancy, a TCO. 374 00:16:46,307 --> 00:16:48,451 They want to get people filming in here. 375 00:16:48,451 --> 00:16:49,673 I need help. 376 00:16:49,673 --> 00:16:51,763 I'm only one dude. 377 00:16:51,763 --> 00:16:54,148 I don't have the means to finish this on time. 378 00:16:54,148 --> 00:16:59,466 So thankfully, I wasn't the only contractor or person that 379 00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:02,731 was late in the job, but my company. 380 00:17:02,731 --> 00:17:03,474 They just didn't. 381 00:17:03,474 --> 00:17:07,521 I guess the the subcontractor that was working with lionsgate 382 00:17:07,602 --> 00:17:11,890 wasn't paying my company regularly, so my company didn't 383 00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:16,586 want to put more men on the job site to help me out, even though 384 00:17:16,586 --> 00:17:19,633 that would have boosted their morale, because they were like 385 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:21,865 every day, like are you getting more people in today? 386 00:17:21,865 --> 00:17:26,041 I'm like sorry dude, I have no idea um, but anyway I found out. 387 00:17:26,182 --> 00:17:29,211 I found out early on, like before. 388 00:17:29,211 --> 00:17:31,076 It was like a push to get it all finished. 389 00:17:31,076 --> 00:17:35,771 At a certain time, before they were really on my neck, they 390 00:17:35,992 --> 00:17:38,622 mentioned that they were going to film severance season two 391 00:17:38,662 --> 00:17:41,554 there and they were just waiting for the temporary certificate 392 00:17:41,574 --> 00:17:42,096 of occupancy. 393 00:17:42,096 --> 00:17:46,528 That obviously fell through because I don't know if they 394 00:17:46,568 --> 00:17:49,803 filmed after that point I don't think so but because I think 395 00:17:49,823 --> 00:17:51,568 they went somewhere else in the end. 396 00:17:51,568 --> 00:17:55,488 But like they were waiting for months to get into this location 397 00:17:55,488 --> 00:17:59,867 and I, you know, along with a couple other contractors, was 398 00:18:00,352 --> 00:18:02,926 partially responsible for why Severance season two took so 399 00:18:02,967 --> 00:18:05,641 long, and I feel really bad about that because it's such a 400 00:18:05,681 --> 00:18:08,767 good show man dang dakota. 401 00:18:09,768 --> 00:18:13,414 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it really, you know, maybe it's not 402 00:18:13,414 --> 00:18:18,394 my yeah, yeah, your company, but I yeah that I can imagine 403 00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:22,483 that a lot of that is like really like complicated that 404 00:18:22,503 --> 00:18:23,244 whole process. 405 00:18:23,305 --> 00:18:27,594 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's crazy, though, yeah, honestly 406 00:18:27,634 --> 00:18:30,069 it was a fun time in my life, like I look back at that fondly, 407 00:18:30,069 --> 00:18:33,883 not necessarily, like you know, pushing severance behind 408 00:18:34,124 --> 00:18:38,596 schedule, but like that whole job that I was doing working on 409 00:18:38,636 --> 00:18:42,807 movie studios right, yeah that was a sick project I can a 410 00:18:42,826 --> 00:18:45,833 couple years of my life I can imagine like, dude, you know, 411 00:18:45,952 --> 00:18:49,007 like if you ever see like a movie that's coming out of that 412 00:18:49,107 --> 00:18:52,665 studio, you'd be like yo, I worked on that studio, I know, I 413 00:18:52,665 --> 00:18:54,993 know, yeah, so it was that's cool man 414 00:18:55,095 --> 00:18:55,696 Speaker 4: I really liked it. 415 00:18:55,998 --> 00:18:57,422 Speaker 2: I don't really remember what I was talking 416 00:18:57,461 --> 00:18:59,868 about that got me to oh, I yeah, I finished severance. 417 00:18:59,868 --> 00:19:01,240 That's what I was trying to say . 418 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,105 Um, I'm behind on andor. 419 00:19:03,105 --> 00:19:07,061 I have not watched the three new apps that came out yesterday 420 00:19:07,061 --> 00:19:11,013 as of recording this, but I am caught up on the first six 421 00:19:11,074 --> 00:19:12,819 episodes of the first season. 422 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:16,847 So we are good to talk about that whenever we are ready to do 423 00:19:16,847 --> 00:19:17,148 so. 424 00:19:17,148 --> 00:19:21,284 And I'm trying to think if I have anything else I wanted to 425 00:19:21,544 --> 00:19:21,904 say. 426 00:19:21,904 --> 00:19:22,666 I don't think I do. 427 00:19:22,666 --> 00:19:25,471 I feel like I do actually have something else to say. 428 00:19:25,471 --> 00:19:26,574 It'll come to me. 429 00:19:26,574 --> 00:19:28,644 Anyway, shall we talk about Andor guys? 430 00:19:29,065 --> 00:19:35,067 We shall oh yeah, okay, I did want to talk about something Too 431 00:19:35,067 --> 00:19:35,228 late. 432 00:19:35,228 --> 00:19:40,135 Dakota, speaking about Andor, the first three episodes of the 433 00:19:40,277 --> 00:19:42,406 second season that came out last week. 434 00:19:42,406 --> 00:19:48,460 There was a little tease in the timeline that you know. 435 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:52,128 There was an object that existed 25 000 years ago that 436 00:19:52,169 --> 00:19:53,933 was stolen by rakatan invaders. 437 00:19:53,933 --> 00:19:58,688 I created like a timeline theory video that you can check 438 00:19:58,728 --> 00:20:03,505 out on youtube by going to the show notes down below, and it 439 00:20:03,545 --> 00:20:05,760 should be the first video that pops up under geek critique. 440 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,570 I'm pretty sure that whatever they were trying to suggest will 441 00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:15,545 link somehow to the dawn of the jedi movie that also takes 442 00:20:15,565 --> 00:20:16,667 place 25 000 years ago. 443 00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:17,871 So I'm excited to talk about that. 444 00:20:17,871 --> 00:20:23,767 But let's jump into sweet and dude I. 445 00:20:24,607 --> 00:20:29,153 Speaker 1: I kind of want to just say that this show has no 446 00:20:29,294 --> 00:20:33,124 right to be as good as it is, because this is literally like 447 00:20:33,204 --> 00:20:34,087 nobody asked for this. 448 00:20:34,087 --> 00:20:36,105 Nobody asked for Andor. 449 00:20:36,105 --> 00:20:40,122 I mean, I thought Andor was a really cool character and, to be 450 00:20:40,122 --> 00:20:44,292 honest with you, out of all of the Disneyney era star wars 451 00:20:44,373 --> 00:20:47,240 movies, rogue one is actually my favorite one. 452 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:53,991 I think rogue one is like just, I guess the the, the raw, just 453 00:20:54,271 --> 00:20:57,362 feeling of it and like just the grittiness of it. 454 00:20:57,362 --> 00:21:03,372 And they translated that to the smaller screen with andor and 455 00:21:03,992 --> 00:21:04,173 dude. 456 00:21:04,173 --> 00:21:05,715 They're just, they killed it. 457 00:21:06,036 --> 00:21:10,244 You know, obviously we've all seen the first season from 458 00:21:10,325 --> 00:21:12,990 beginning to end for a while now , but we're only going to be 459 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:15,261 talking about the first six episodes. 460 00:21:15,261 --> 00:21:20,390 But dude, it's just like, like it, just it baffles me. 461 00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:23,755 I'm amazed on how amazing this show is. 462 00:21:23,755 --> 00:21:24,796 Like. 463 00:21:24,796 --> 00:21:28,364 I feel like a lot can be learned from this show with 464 00:21:28,505 --> 00:21:33,182 other Star Wars media, like they need to like take whatever 465 00:21:33,282 --> 00:21:36,597 formula is happening, obviously they're not gonna get the same 466 00:21:36,678 --> 00:21:39,711 feel, it's not gonna be the same grittiness, because that that 467 00:21:39,832 --> 00:21:43,065 works for for Rogue One and and or. 468 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:45,894 Speaker 2: But I do, they're doing something, man, and it's 469 00:21:46,134 --> 00:21:50,146 awesome yeah, I I don't really know what the secret sauce is, 470 00:21:50,688 --> 00:21:52,853 but they are cooking over there. 471 00:21:52,853 --> 00:21:54,542 Well, I think that go ahead. 472 00:21:54,923 --> 00:21:58,213 Speaker 4: I think that the big thing is is that you know how 473 00:21:58,295 --> 00:22:00,902 it's gotta kind of end right like rogue one. 474 00:22:00,902 --> 00:22:05,270 You know the way like rogue one like bled into it, and I think 475 00:22:05,310 --> 00:22:11,308 that it had the perfect level of nostalgia, but not nostalgia in 476 00:22:11,308 --> 00:22:14,259 that like it ended, you know, and you you get kind of like it 477 00:22:14,299 --> 00:22:19,205 bleeds into new hope, and I think that it's weird. 478 00:22:19,205 --> 00:22:24,351 But I think that operating in certain parameters, like Disney 479 00:22:24,451 --> 00:22:29,836 being kind of boxed in by the timeline, is actually helping 480 00:22:29,917 --> 00:22:32,119 the series to be excellent. 481 00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:35,059 Speaker 2: That's a really strong point, actually, and I 482 00:22:35,099 --> 00:22:39,890 had not considered that being pushed into a corner would be 483 00:22:39,970 --> 00:22:41,753 good for the creative juices. 484 00:22:41,753 --> 00:22:49,742 Good for the creative juices, but especially using that 485 00:22:49,762 --> 00:22:51,547 concept and giving us like tertiary side characters to 486 00:22:51,567 --> 00:22:53,752 follow, yeah, outside of the star wars, you know, like the 487 00:22:53,792 --> 00:22:56,222 main skywalker saga, you know like these are characters that 488 00:22:56,605 --> 00:22:59,480 you know mothma, you know, meets luke eventually, and all that 489 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,825 that's what I think legends did so well. 490 00:23:02,566 --> 00:23:05,751 Speaker 4: Right is that every time a Legends book came out and 491 00:23:05,751 --> 00:23:10,326 was approved by Lucas, it created more structures that 492 00:23:10,627 --> 00:23:14,525 everybody had to navigate around , and I know that actually can 493 00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:17,192 sometimes suffocate storytelling . 494 00:23:17,192 --> 00:23:22,144 But I think with Star Wars, in some weird way, the more the 495 00:23:22,223 --> 00:23:27,356 writer has an idea of what their boundaries are, the stronger it 496 00:23:27,356 --> 00:23:28,579 is like kenobi. 497 00:23:28,579 --> 00:23:33,368 I like kenobi because I wanted to like kenobi, but truthfully 498 00:23:33,849 --> 00:23:39,066 they had a lot more free reign and chose to go in a way that 499 00:23:39,145 --> 00:23:43,143 was not as satisfying to a lot of star wars fans okay, yeah, 500 00:23:43,324 --> 00:23:46,641 yeah, I was just happy to see ewan mcgregor as the character 501 00:23:46,661 --> 00:23:48,644 again like yeah, I mean yeah 502 00:23:49,224 --> 00:23:53,071 Speaker 1: I mean, aside from you know some of the grievances 503 00:23:53,733 --> 00:23:57,827 of that, I still think that he slid into that character still 504 00:23:57,847 --> 00:24:00,232 pretty well and not all of it was bad. 505 00:24:00,232 --> 00:24:04,489 But yeah, no, I get what she's talking about and or is, I guess 506 00:24:04,489 --> 00:24:08,626 , boxed in because you do know that pretty much after the 507 00:24:08,686 --> 00:24:12,116 second season it rolls into, it's obviously going to roll 508 00:24:12,157 --> 00:24:12,920 into, rogue One. 509 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,971 So you know, or or I, it would have to be like, okay, yeah, 510 00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:22,865 well, there goes Rogue One and then you know then, yeah, that's 511 00:24:22,865 --> 00:24:25,152 that for, uh, cassian andor. 512 00:24:25,152 --> 00:24:29,363 But yeah, man, this first season, you know, getting to 513 00:24:29,463 --> 00:24:34,917 know cassian, and it starts him off in the same way that we're 514 00:24:34,999 --> 00:24:37,566 introduced to him in in rogue one. 515 00:24:37,826 --> 00:24:40,976 You know, like this man, yeah, that's funny you know, like he 516 00:24:41,136 --> 00:24:46,049 he, though, though I will say that those guards were asking 517 00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:49,127 for it he was just trying, he was on his way, they were 518 00:24:49,167 --> 00:24:53,428 messing with him, and it was funny because the supervisor of 519 00:24:53,788 --> 00:24:58,045 that facility, he called it out he said they obviously like ran 520 00:24:58,125 --> 00:25:01,321 up on somebody that was the wrong person to mess with and 521 00:25:01,342 --> 00:25:02,326 they got killed for it. 522 00:25:02,326 --> 00:25:03,585 And he I was like dude. 523 00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:05,060 He nailed it Like they messed with the wrong guy. 524 00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:05,914 I was like dude, he nailed it like they messed with the wrong 525 00:25:05,934 --> 00:25:05,994 guy. 526 00:25:05,994 --> 00:25:09,957 He was just trying to go about his way yeah, before I forget 527 00:25:10,277 --> 00:25:10,518 rich. 528 00:25:10,597 --> 00:25:12,864 Speaker 2: Last last week you broke my heart with that babe 529 00:25:12,943 --> 00:25:16,958 ruth thing that you mentioned that insight about the cold shot 530 00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:16,958 . 531 00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:19,625 I have to break your heart a little bit based on something 532 00:25:19,644 --> 00:25:20,267 that you just said. 533 00:25:20,267 --> 00:25:25,267 So lucas did not approve those novels what no, he did not. 534 00:25:25,468 --> 00:25:26,971 Most of them anyway he did. 535 00:25:26,971 --> 00:25:27,440 He did not. 536 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,546 There was a couple like splinter of the eye, he did. 537 00:25:30,546 --> 00:25:36,383 But most of the novels lucasfilm approved. 538 00:25:36,383 --> 00:25:40,250 But and lucas just owned lucasfilm, you know, he didn't 539 00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:41,834 really read through any of it. 540 00:25:41,834 --> 00:25:46,280 There were certain things that he took from legends and brought 541 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,390 into canon but like, like the name, coruscant that's a, that's 542 00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:54,928 a legends thing that he carried over, but the majority of the 543 00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:59,884 stories and everything he did not consider I mean honestly, 544 00:25:59,904 --> 00:26:02,469 dude, there was so much of it I I read every page. 545 00:26:02,528 --> 00:26:05,233 Speaker 1: I would believe that he didn't have that much control 546 00:26:05,233 --> 00:26:05,654 over it. 547 00:26:05,654 --> 00:26:10,481 I mean, on top of all the books that came out, there were a lot 548 00:26:10,481 --> 00:26:12,648 of video games that came out too, like just. 549 00:26:13,662 --> 00:26:14,625 Speaker 4: Shadow of the Empire. 550 00:26:14,625 --> 00:26:16,163 Was it the game was? 551 00:26:16,163 --> 00:26:18,565 I'm trying to remember, or? 552 00:26:18,605 --> 00:26:19,086 Speaker 1: was that a book? 553 00:26:19,086 --> 00:26:19,950 No, I think that was a book. 554 00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:22,587 Speaker 4: There was the one with Dash Rendar. 555 00:26:22,587 --> 00:26:27,022 I know we had uh, it was a dark forces. 556 00:26:27,022 --> 00:26:27,904 That was a game there. 557 00:26:27,904 --> 00:26:30,049 Oh, there was the masters of terra kai and, of course, the 558 00:26:30,089 --> 00:26:32,864 best game of all time, non-negotiable, is knights of 559 00:26:32,884 --> 00:26:36,030 the old republic oh yeah, that's all the republic is like one of 560 00:26:36,030 --> 00:26:38,564 my top favorites of that time. 561 00:26:39,085 --> 00:26:40,508 Speaker 1: They were absolutely awesome. 562 00:26:40,508 --> 00:26:43,073 And then battlefront, battlefronts. 563 00:26:43,073 --> 00:26:43,843 That was. 564 00:26:43,863 --> 00:26:46,035 Speaker 2: The battlefronts were so, so fun. 565 00:26:46,075 --> 00:26:49,125 Speaker 4: The battlefront threw me off for one reason and it's 566 00:26:49,144 --> 00:26:52,472 the dumbest reason ever, and dakota and I briefly touched on 567 00:26:52,539 --> 00:26:58,349 this, but the in battlefront 2, I believe the actress who's in 568 00:26:58,369 --> 00:27:04,185 the game is the actress who is the shiva from the league which 569 00:27:04,246 --> 00:27:07,842 is the show about fantasy football, where they basically 570 00:27:07,942 --> 00:27:12,296 made their high school crush their, uh, fantasy football 571 00:27:12,336 --> 00:27:12,778 trophy. 572 00:27:12,798 --> 00:27:14,041 Speaker 1: Oh we're talking about the new ones. 573 00:27:14,041 --> 00:27:17,574 We're talking about the old ones, but but yeah other than oh 574 00:27:17,574 --> 00:27:22,226 , okay, yeah, we're talking there was like a series of 575 00:27:22,306 --> 00:27:24,349 battlefront games for, like the PS2 era. 576 00:27:24,349 --> 00:27:26,192 Yeah, oh, there was a box. 577 00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:27,721 Speaker 4: You're talking about. 578 00:27:27,781 --> 00:27:28,605 Speaker 2: Inversio. 579 00:27:28,945 --> 00:27:30,911 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's what I'm talking about. 580 00:27:30,911 --> 00:27:33,866 Yes, there was a brief period of time where I had a 581 00:27:33,967 --> 00:27:37,204 non-functioning game system, so I think that's where we're 582 00:27:37,244 --> 00:27:38,260 talking about, which? 583 00:27:38,982 --> 00:27:41,509 Speaker 1: which actually that's a good point to swing us back 584 00:27:41,549 --> 00:27:42,451 around to Andor. 585 00:27:42,451 --> 00:27:48,542 It's a good point to swing us back around to Andor. 586 00:27:48,542 --> 00:27:51,188 That story in Battlefront 2 is a perfect example of like it 587 00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:54,874 shows and Andor shows us a lot too is that there's a lot of 588 00:27:54,913 --> 00:27:58,326 people it seems like there's a good bit of people in the Empire 589 00:27:58,326 --> 00:28:01,300 that are just not on board with what's going on. 590 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:05,111 And you get that with you know, you get this with an imperial 591 00:28:05,171 --> 00:28:07,023 officer and a former stormtrooper. 592 00:28:07,023 --> 00:28:08,911 You know they've become rebels. 593 00:28:08,911 --> 00:28:12,161 You know, with one kind of being inside and it's 594 00:28:12,721 --> 00:28:16,169 interesting to see the rebellion at this state. 595 00:28:16,169 --> 00:28:18,212 Dude, it's budding at this point. 596 00:28:18,212 --> 00:28:19,722 It's tiny. 597 00:28:19,722 --> 00:28:21,990 You can even call it a rebellion. 598 00:28:22,049 --> 00:28:24,979 It's like a, you know it's, it's small acts of terrorism, 599 00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:30,548 basically dude, dude, seriously, I mean at that point it is, but 600 00:28:30,548 --> 00:28:34,842 it's, it's really interesting that they like finally given us 601 00:28:35,442 --> 00:28:41,173 this like ground floor view of the rebellion, you know, but 602 00:28:41,333 --> 00:28:44,883 when we, when we catch the rebellion and the original 603 00:28:44,942 --> 00:28:49,367 series like the, the rebellion has existed already and they've 604 00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:52,632 already been actively fighting against the Empire but we didn't 605 00:28:52,632 --> 00:28:53,292 get to. 606 00:28:53,292 --> 00:28:55,736 Okay, how, when did this start? 607 00:28:55,736 --> 00:28:58,588 How did they get to where they were? 608 00:28:58,588 --> 00:29:04,608 And it's people on the inside of the, obviously the, the 609 00:29:04,689 --> 00:29:09,583 empire, and people in the Senate , man People backing you know in 610 00:29:09,583 --> 00:29:11,047 the Senate that are backing this. 611 00:29:11,067 --> 00:29:14,746 Speaker 4: Tariffs man, tariffs, lucas knew man. 612 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,883 Speaker 2: It's all about the tariffs, bro, and dude, like 613 00:29:17,982 --> 00:29:23,442 watching Phantom Menace nowadays is like it's so topical I 614 00:29:23,722 --> 00:29:25,648 didn't think that would ever happen in my lifetime but 615 00:29:25,970 --> 00:29:26,791 extremely topical. 616 00:29:26,791 --> 00:29:30,211 Yeah, what you're saying, anthony, about like how the 617 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:34,425 rebellion took shape, we see it fully functioning in the 618 00:29:34,465 --> 00:29:35,308 original trilogy. 619 00:29:35,308 --> 00:29:39,401 Yeah, but at this stage it's not fully functioning, it's 620 00:29:39,461 --> 00:29:43,301 barely functioning and it's splinter groups that have yet to 621 00:29:43,301 --> 00:29:45,864 form a united front. 622 00:29:45,864 --> 00:29:49,605 Basically, and there's talk about a united front, there's 623 00:29:49,665 --> 00:29:55,851 dreams about a united front, but not everybody thinks that 624 00:29:55,971 --> 00:29:57,451 rebellion should be run that way . 625 00:29:57,451 --> 00:30:04,056 As we know from at least rogue one, sometimes some of you know 626 00:30:04,115 --> 00:30:11,250 from like clone wars, yeah, he does not see rebellion as fully 627 00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:12,352 altruistic. 628 00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:16,099 You know he has dedicated his life to a, you know, very 629 00:30:16,339 --> 00:30:20,766 extreme, you know death, to all imperials type of you know 630 00:30:20,846 --> 00:30:21,346 rebellion. 631 00:30:21,346 --> 00:30:23,150 So he's he's on the extreme end . 632 00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:29,785 But what we're seeing in this show with andor is, I wouldn't 633 00:30:29,805 --> 00:30:32,711 say it's like small acts of rebellion, because we're we're 634 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:36,368 starting to see, you know, some real organized crime when it 635 00:30:36,409 --> 00:30:38,556 comes to, you know, bringing down the empire. 636 00:30:38,817 --> 00:30:42,589 Yeah, especially in that second arc that we have on aldani, we 637 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:45,640 we meet this guy named Luthen who's like such a fascinating 638 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:46,121 character. 639 00:30:46,121 --> 00:30:48,144 I don't understand him. 640 00:30:48,144 --> 00:30:50,510 I almost don't even want to understand him. 641 00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:51,673 He's an enigma. 642 00:30:51,673 --> 00:30:54,986 I want like he's such a mysterious person. 643 00:30:54,986 --> 00:30:59,180 This guy who collects rare artifacts has an you know, like 644 00:30:59,259 --> 00:31:02,405 a rare artifact store for the very wealthy of Coruscant. 645 00:31:02,405 --> 00:31:08,015 He has a huge network of accomplices and clients. 646 00:31:08,015 --> 00:31:14,747 In his shop you have a Gungan shield, you have several pieces 647 00:31:14,807 --> 00:31:18,988 of Amidala's headgear on the shelves you have Plo Koon's mask 648 00:31:18,988 --> 00:31:20,726 , but that's just a facade. 649 00:31:20,726 --> 00:31:23,442 His whole shop is a facade so that he can operate in the 650 00:31:23,463 --> 00:31:24,464 background. 651 00:31:24,505 --> 00:31:26,468 Speaker 1: Operate in the background yeah, yeah he's a 652 00:31:26,508 --> 00:31:29,652 genius he is man dude, stellan skarsgard. 653 00:31:29,652 --> 00:31:31,815 He plays that role so well. 654 00:31:31,815 --> 00:31:37,424 I love him and you know, get we get diego luna back and uh, 655 00:31:37,484 --> 00:31:41,368 cassie and andor he, um, you know it had been a while, 656 00:31:41,388 --> 00:31:47,474 because I think what 2022 was when we got the first season of 657 00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:54,328 andor and it was what six years since rogue one, 20, 2016 yeah, 658 00:31:54,429 --> 00:31:55,951 it was when rogue one right. 659 00:31:56,291 --> 00:32:00,443 So I would say they probably started working on it like 660 00:32:00,483 --> 00:32:06,374 towards the tail end of maybe 2020 to give or take, so, or I 661 00:32:06,413 --> 00:32:08,321 mean they've been working on it for a while, but maybe like 662 00:32:08,502 --> 00:32:11,368 actual filming and production was after that point. 663 00:32:11,368 --> 00:32:15,503 But dude, I mean he slides right back into that character 664 00:32:15,564 --> 00:32:21,875 so well, he sells it that he's this guy that you know, he is 665 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,769 kind of like looking out for himself, but he does want to do 666 00:32:25,929 --> 00:32:31,046 more, but he definitely keeps his cards close to his chest and 667 00:32:31,046 --> 00:32:36,842 you see that a lot in these first six episodes and or as a 668 00:32:36,902 --> 00:32:43,170 show just kind of goes to show that you can take any character 669 00:32:43,210 --> 00:32:47,195 from Star Wars and write a book about them. 670 00:32:48,881 --> 00:32:54,849 Speaker 2: Each character in this galaxy has enough to say to 671 00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:58,236 make it worth watching or reading or experiencing. 672 00:32:58,236 --> 00:33:01,724 Andor is one of those characters and, honestly, had 673 00:33:01,765 --> 00:33:05,536 you asked me in 2016, who would you make a movie about after 674 00:33:05,576 --> 00:33:08,104 watching rogue one, I'd have to really think about it and I 675 00:33:08,144 --> 00:33:12,922 don't think andor would have been in my top three picks right 676 00:33:12,922 --> 00:33:16,449 , maybe saw, saw guerrero would have been yeah yeah that's 677 00:33:16,469 --> 00:33:17,351 better or so. 678 00:33:17,351 --> 00:33:20,042 Uh, krennic, yeah, galen or so. 679 00:33:20,042 --> 00:33:22,932 I want to know more about I I would want to know more about. 680 00:33:22,951 --> 00:33:24,958 Speaker 1: I would want to know more about Chirrut. 681 00:33:24,978 --> 00:33:26,584 Speaker 2: Emwe yeah, dude Chirrut and uh. 682 00:33:26,584 --> 00:33:27,606 Chirrut and Baze Malbus the. 683 00:33:27,626 --> 00:33:28,390 Speaker 1: Wills and stuff. 684 00:33:29,142 --> 00:33:31,507 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I would not have thought that Andor 685 00:33:31,607 --> 00:33:33,732 would be that guy, dude Andor. 686 00:33:34,301 --> 00:33:37,904 Speaker 4: Andor to me was like I'm not sure if you guys have 687 00:33:37,925 --> 00:33:42,344 seen South Park the movie long time ago, but yes he's like. 688 00:33:42,704 --> 00:33:45,601 So inside the movie there was a character who's helping them in 689 00:33:45,661 --> 00:33:51,371 their own rebellion and he was kind of french-esque, like some. 690 00:33:51,371 --> 00:33:56,027 He was some foreign or he wasn't american and he smoked 691 00:33:56,067 --> 00:33:59,576 cigarettes, even though he was only like nine years old and he, 692 00:33:59,576 --> 00:34:04,148 he, uh, he's like, did you guys bring the butt for? 693 00:34:04,148 --> 00:34:05,772 And they're like, what's the butt for? 694 00:34:05,772 --> 00:34:09,867 He goes for pooping silly, like that was the one time he was 695 00:34:09,927 --> 00:34:14,505 like relaxed and like that to me was cassie and andor, so much 696 00:34:14,565 --> 00:34:14,867 you know. 697 00:34:14,867 --> 00:34:20,561 So I did not expect for them to explore this character and it's 698 00:34:20,561 --> 00:34:23,567 made all the difference, I think right, right, right. 699 00:34:23,626 --> 00:34:29,074 Speaker 1: Like he was like a main-ish character in Rogue One, 700 00:34:29,074 --> 00:34:32,286 like he was like a main character but the story 701 00:34:32,467 --> 00:34:37,525 obviously centered around Jyn Erso, jyn Erso, her father, and 702 00:34:37,565 --> 00:34:41,273 then you know the whole story of how they got the plans of the 703 00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:41,773 Death Star. 704 00:34:41,773 --> 00:34:46,811 But, like you know, andor and or you know his character was 705 00:34:46,851 --> 00:34:47,331 cool. 706 00:34:47,331 --> 00:34:50,608 You know, I didn't hate his character in rogue one at all. 707 00:34:50,608 --> 00:34:52,291 I thought it was, I thought he was awesome. 708 00:34:52,291 --> 00:34:55,889 But yeah, like dude, like he wasn't the one that you would be 709 00:34:55,889 --> 00:34:59,061 like, oh yeah, like you said, like he wouldn't have been a top 710 00:34:59,061 --> 00:35:01,628 three pick but somehow they wrote a whole show about him, 711 00:35:01,648 --> 00:35:04,907 they wrote a whole show the show after this guy. 712 00:35:07,201 --> 00:35:09,568 And they're killing it Like how Dakota, how? 713 00:35:09,568 --> 00:35:11,485 This blows my mind. 714 00:35:11,485 --> 00:35:17,967 How is this show existing and how is it like this good, based 715 00:35:18,068 --> 00:35:21,036 off of a character that maybe a very small amount of people 716 00:35:21,277 --> 00:35:21,777 asked for? 717 00:35:22,518 --> 00:35:26,967 Speaker 2: what I like is the realism yes and or because you 718 00:35:27,027 --> 00:35:28,635 have plenty of star wars. 719 00:35:28,635 --> 00:35:31,824 That's escapism you have plenty of star wars that you can go 720 00:35:31,923 --> 00:35:35,920 and just escape reality from, but you have to understand all 721 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,987 the mainline story dude pretty much, yeah, save for maybe rogue 722 00:35:39,987 --> 00:35:40,148 one. 723 00:35:40,148 --> 00:35:46,706 But you have moments in star wars that you can't really you 724 00:35:46,786 --> 00:35:48,309 know escape from or like. 725 00:35:48,309 --> 00:35:51,282 There's certain stories that are more grounded, and this is 726 00:35:51,362 --> 00:35:52,003 one of those stories. 727 00:35:52,003 --> 00:35:53,086 There's no jedi here. 728 00:35:53,106 --> 00:35:57,922 I don't even think they've mentioned jedi in the show right 729 00:35:57,922 --> 00:36:01,789 right, yeah if I, if I can remember now, yeah, I don't 730 00:36:01,809 --> 00:36:02,110 think so. 731 00:36:02,110 --> 00:36:06,204 This is first six episodes now for sure as of this first, yeah 732 00:36:06,385 --> 00:36:09,940 they have not mentioned jedi or anything like force related, and 733 00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:14,568 the force has always been the main thing when it comes to star 734 00:36:14,568 --> 00:36:18,864 wars, like there's always a major spiritual element that was 735 00:36:18,864 --> 00:36:19,487 like the selling. 736 00:36:19,507 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: One of the selling points of star wars was like 737 00:36:22,262 --> 00:36:27,195 these mystical, like samurais that wields laser swords man 738 00:36:28,038 --> 00:36:30,684 yeah, they don't got laser swords in this one no, no, 739 00:36:30,884 --> 00:36:32,688 there's the stakes are higher, man. 740 00:36:33,317 --> 00:36:36,485 The stakes are higher, like you know, when you see a star Wars 741 00:36:36,605 --> 00:36:41,400 movie or even a Star Wars TV show with a Jedi in it. 742 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,711 Like you know that they're gonna like mow down these 743 00:36:43,771 --> 00:36:44,394 Imperials, man. 744 00:36:44,394 --> 00:36:46,380 They're gonna like, they're gonna destroy him, man. 745 00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:50,603 But like these people, these are people that they don't have 746 00:36:51,164 --> 00:36:53,896 these powers, they don't have control over the force, man, 747 00:36:54,317 --> 00:36:57,947 they have to like be very methodical and the things that 748 00:36:57,967 --> 00:37:00,132 they do and they have to plan. 749 00:37:00,132 --> 00:37:03,503 And obviously, you know, this heist that happens in that 750 00:37:03,623 --> 00:37:07,615 second arc is something that has been planned for a long period 751 00:37:07,655 --> 00:37:12,125 of time and you know, andor kind of just comes in and crashes 752 00:37:12,184 --> 00:37:16,699 that, in a way, because of luthen yeah, it's crazy, should 753 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,121 we talk about the individual arcs? 754 00:37:18,923 --> 00:37:20,706 Speaker 2: We haven't really scratched the surface of the 755 00:37:20,766 --> 00:37:25,338 first one, right, right, but yeah, so the first arc follows 756 00:37:26,081 --> 00:37:29,806 Andor, specifically after he has that encounter with the Primor 757 00:37:29,847 --> 00:37:31,250 guards on Rolana 1. 758 00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:34,824 And he accidentally kills one. 759 00:37:34,824 --> 00:37:37,123 He decides to save his own neck . 760 00:37:37,123 --> 00:37:37,750 He has to kill both of them. 761 00:37:37,686 --> 00:37:38,083 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, accidentally kills one, he 762 00:37:38,019 --> 00:37:39,228 decides to save his own neck, he has to kill both of them. 763 00:37:39,164 --> 00:37:43,545 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he accidentally gave away a huge 764 00:37:43,726 --> 00:37:48,376 bit of information about himself to you know some girl at the 765 00:37:48,436 --> 00:37:48,836 strip club. 766 00:37:48,836 --> 00:37:53,246 Basically, and yeah, I mean that happens to all of us right 767 00:37:53,347 --> 00:37:56,440 of course, yeah, no, I mean the amount of times I've you've 768 00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:58,344 given out my social security number and everything. 769 00:37:58,744 --> 00:38:05,585 it's embarrassing at this point, dakota, you know he's just out 770 00:38:05,605 --> 00:38:10,936 there giving out his full address, you know yeah yeah, but 771 00:38:10,936 --> 00:38:16,346 he gives out his, you know, like part of his origin, which 772 00:38:16,405 --> 00:38:20,697 is the planet that he comes from , and Canary is what it was and 773 00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:23,824 that's how the primor is it primor? 774 00:38:23,923 --> 00:38:27,914 Speaker 4: I keep feeling like I'm saying that wrong did his 775 00:38:27,994 --> 00:38:31,963 sister actually work there or did he assume that she did, 776 00:38:32,043 --> 00:38:34,777 because that's what a woman would do in? 777 00:38:34,817 --> 00:38:38,065 Speaker 2: trying to find a position well, okay, so I I 778 00:38:38,085 --> 00:38:43,277 don't know that she definitely did or definitely didn't, but he 779 00:38:43,277 --> 00:38:47,266 was under the impression that, like he was given some intel 780 00:38:47,387 --> 00:38:51,983 right right that okay, all right yeah yeah, I wasn't sure, if it 781 00:38:51,983 --> 00:38:54,737 was like a type of thing where, like, all right, I'm gonna show 782 00:38:54,737 --> 00:38:59,706 up where I think she, and because of the plight of women, 783 00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:02,090 she had to take this role. 784 00:39:02,657 --> 00:39:05,010 Speaker 4: You know, like I was, that's the only thing that I 785 00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:05,675 was unsure about. 786 00:39:05,855 --> 00:39:08,344 Speaker 1: No, no, he stepped in there with it was a purpose, 787 00:39:09,054 --> 00:39:12,496 like he had a he stepped in with a purpose Like he went there 788 00:39:12,556 --> 00:39:14,681 purposefully, not you know. 789 00:39:15,143 --> 00:39:17,628 Oh, maybe she may be in here. 790 00:39:17,628 --> 00:39:20,344 Like you know, it wasn't like a check, like it was more of. 791 00:39:20,344 --> 00:39:24,967 Like you know, he came in, yeah , like dakota said, with a piece 792 00:39:24,967 --> 00:39:28,876 of information and he's trying to clarify whether or not that 793 00:39:28,936 --> 00:39:31,081 piece of information was true. 794 00:39:31,081 --> 00:39:36,199 And that piece of information is that he was looking for a 795 00:39:36,259 --> 00:39:39,726 woman that is from canaryari and that's where he's from. 796 00:39:39,726 --> 00:39:43,298 And that's actually part of that arc too Is showing where 797 00:39:43,338 --> 00:39:44,202 Cassian is from. 798 00:39:44,202 --> 00:39:46,664 He grew up in this tribal community. 799 00:39:47,034 --> 00:39:49,503 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest, I didn't care too much about the 800 00:39:49,543 --> 00:39:50,144 flashbacks. 801 00:39:50,144 --> 00:39:52,175 I never care about flashbacks, actually. 802 00:39:52,175 --> 00:39:55,864 I almost always find myself really bored when flashbacks 803 00:39:55,905 --> 00:39:57,367 come on For just about anything. 804 00:39:57,367 --> 00:40:00,541 You can have a whole show based on flashbacks, like I remember 805 00:40:00,601 --> 00:40:03,146 when arrow was coming out or lost. 806 00:40:03,786 --> 00:40:07,762 I don't care about what happened at home or naruto I, just I, I 807 00:40:07,802 --> 00:40:10,795 want to know what's happening right now in the story and they 808 00:40:10,835 --> 00:40:13,682 kept cutting back to that and I didn't think there was a lot to 809 00:40:13,762 --> 00:40:18,500 say personally about, you know, andor's life on canary. 810 00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:21,427 I think it's an interesting bit of lore, you know. 811 00:40:21,427 --> 00:40:24,621 One or two flashbacks may have been, you know, sufficient for 812 00:40:24,681 --> 00:40:29,820 me, but, yeah, I felt that that was probably the weakest part of 813 00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:30,121 this. 814 00:40:30,121 --> 00:40:32,967 This first three episodes was just the flashback episodes, but 815 00:40:32,967 --> 00:40:37,862 I, I did really like how they tied it in to you know how. 816 00:40:37,862 --> 00:40:42,579 That's how they found a lead, basically as to how they were 817 00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,902 going to track him, and that's also how we are introduced to 818 00:40:45,983 --> 00:40:48,239 Cyril Karm, who is a. 819 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,019 What's the name of the company? 820 00:40:50,019 --> 00:40:51,277 Anthony, you mentioned it earlier. 821 00:40:51,277 --> 00:40:51,940 Prelor. 822 00:40:52,621 --> 00:40:54,407 Speaker 4: Premor, premor. 823 00:40:55,155 --> 00:40:58,016 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he I don't even understand, I don't know 824 00:40:58,056 --> 00:41:01,141 what his actual job title is, but he took it to the extreme. 825 00:41:01,141 --> 00:41:04,364 He made a huge error in bringing a whole bunch of guys 826 00:41:04,757 --> 00:41:08,449 to try to look for Andor, and I think it was something like six 827 00:41:08,489 --> 00:41:13,400 or seven of the guys ended up dying on his mission to capture 828 00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:16,360 the guy who accidentally killed one guy and then purposely 829 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,961 killed another guy. 830 00:41:17,315 --> 00:41:19,677 Speaker 1: But anyway, a lot more people died because of your 831 00:41:19,677 --> 00:41:24,226 mission than would have if you just listen to your superior's 832 00:41:24,306 --> 00:41:28,525 orders and let it go dude, I love during this part, dude, I 833 00:41:28,606 --> 00:41:31,876 loved luth and I loved how he had like these little things, 834 00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:35,380 like these rules that he would do and he was like he said, kind 835 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:39,768 of like a rule of thumb, build your exit on your way in, dude, 836 00:41:39,827 --> 00:41:43,018 and he had set like charges on the outside. 837 00:41:43,018 --> 00:41:46,065 I'm like dude, I just knew that he was gonna be like. 838 00:41:46,065 --> 00:41:47,307 He was awesome. 839 00:41:47,307 --> 00:41:50,760 I was like yeah, he's just extra yeah yeah, no, no, it was 840 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,081 funny. 841 00:41:51,643 --> 00:41:56,378 But yeah, originally luthan gets called in because he's 842 00:41:56,478 --> 00:42:02,009 connected with bix, which may or may not be I mean at this point 843 00:42:02,009 --> 00:42:06,244 , may or may not not have been, you know, romantically entangled 844 00:42:06,244 --> 00:42:09,458 with andor, which is kind of safe to say that something went 845 00:42:09,677 --> 00:42:10,380 down with them. 846 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,527 But yeah, he's trying to make some money, he's trying to get 847 00:42:13,568 --> 00:42:16,500 out of there because he knows that he's being tracked down for 848 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:21,976 those killings and he's trying to sell this sealed was a star 849 00:42:21,996 --> 00:42:27,485 path unit yeah and which is supposedly worth a lot of money. 850 00:42:28,146 --> 00:42:32,820 And instead of getting paid money, he gets a job which is 851 00:42:33,081 --> 00:42:35,166 ultimately worth more than what he would have. 852 00:42:35,206 --> 00:42:39,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, star path unit but dangerous, dangerous. 853 00:42:39,021 --> 00:42:40,976 Speaker 1: There was a lot of work to be put into that. 854 00:42:41,458 --> 00:42:43,884 Speaker 2: There was a lot of danger yeah, we, we meet a 855 00:42:43,923 --> 00:42:47,358 couple people that will be, you know, important later on in the 856 00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:47,639 show. 857 00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:51,065 Like you said, we met bix khalin and her horrible 858 00:42:51,126 --> 00:42:51,847 boyfriend tim. 859 00:42:51,847 --> 00:42:53,056 I hate that guy. 860 00:42:53,056 --> 00:42:56,182 Although I didn't want to see him die like a chump, I hated 861 00:42:56,202 --> 00:42:56,543 that guy. 862 00:42:56,543 --> 00:42:59,188 That was a terrible scene, like you know. 863 00:42:59,188 --> 00:43:04,148 Like, obviously, bix was mad at this guy for ratting out her 864 00:43:04,168 --> 00:43:07,398 childhood friend and or, but maybe not childhood friend, but 865 00:43:07,458 --> 00:43:11,132 you know, her friend being locked up as the person that you 866 00:43:11,132 --> 00:43:14,461 are currently romantically involved with, dies on the steps 867 00:43:14,461 --> 00:43:16,494 , like a couple feet away from you and you can't reach them. 868 00:43:16,534 --> 00:43:19,681 Speaker 1: That's just terrible yeah, no, absolutely that was 869 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,302 crazy. 870 00:43:20,302 --> 00:43:23,949 I thought it was interesting how everybody kind of alerted, 871 00:43:23,989 --> 00:43:27,865 like you know, hey, there's some you know pretty more people 872 00:43:28,067 --> 00:43:32,398 here, you know looking for somebody and like kind of 873 00:43:32,498 --> 00:43:37,387 banging on like a bunch of scrap metal and stuff yo, I love the 874 00:43:37,427 --> 00:43:41,414 culture in morlana one or no, it's not morlana one, that's the 875 00:43:41,414 --> 00:43:44,782 planet that he or the moon that he attacked those guards right 876 00:43:44,882 --> 00:43:48,617 but I I love the culture in aldani. 877 00:43:48,697 --> 00:43:51,764 Speaker 2: That is aldani aldani is the second planet. 878 00:43:51,764 --> 00:43:53,588 I forget what the first planet is. 879 00:43:53,588 --> 00:43:56,487 It's gonna bother me, but anyway I love that you know. 880 00:43:56,487 --> 00:43:58,956 Like you said, anthony, they start banging like they have 881 00:43:59,016 --> 00:44:02,201 just random pieces of sheet metal and tools that you can 882 00:44:02,221 --> 00:44:06,768 bang on all over town whenever they want to alert the rest of 883 00:44:07,148 --> 00:44:08,510 the town that something's going down. 884 00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:10,231 They don't even know what's happening. 885 00:44:10,231 --> 00:44:10,956 Ferrix Half of them. 886 00:44:10,956 --> 00:44:12,581 They have no Ferrix. 887 00:44:12,581 --> 00:44:15,376 Yes, thank you, anthony, that was going to really bother me. 888 00:44:15,376 --> 00:44:22,496 So the ferrix has like a very look after your own type of 889 00:44:22,576 --> 00:44:23,117 mentality. 890 00:44:23,117 --> 00:44:26,945 They don't want outsiders getting involved in their 891 00:44:26,985 --> 00:44:27,346 business. 892 00:44:27,346 --> 00:44:31,221 I also love the guy who has the bell duty in the morning. 893 00:44:31,221 --> 00:44:34,014 You know he just kind of like stretches his arms and then he 894 00:44:34,054 --> 00:44:38,001 just starts hitting the bell yeah it's the coolest bell tower 895 00:44:38,001 --> 00:44:38,702 I've ever seen. 896 00:44:38,722 --> 00:44:42,827 I feel like that would be such a satisfying thing to hit. 897 00:44:43,427 --> 00:44:45,570 Speaker 1: I know, and it's a crazy looking one too. 898 00:44:47,514 --> 00:44:49,137 Speaker 4: It kind of looks like an anvil or something. 899 00:44:49,137 --> 00:44:50,760 I'm not sure you guys picked up on it, but I don't know. 900 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,166 This is a very little known actor. 901 00:44:54,166 --> 00:44:55,809 His name is Ethan Embry. 902 00:44:55,809 --> 00:45:04,197 He was in Can't hardly wait. 903 00:45:04,217 --> 00:45:06,239 I was like a teen movie in the late 90s, early 2000s and he had 904 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,465 like a spot role in in the first six episodes where he was 905 00:45:09,487 --> 00:45:11,009 like an outside guard. 906 00:45:11,009 --> 00:45:12,858 I just love how they. 907 00:45:12,858 --> 00:45:15,244 That's the other thing that's kind of cool about these series 908 00:45:15,626 --> 00:45:17,998 and you know I think we've talked about it before, or at 909 00:45:18,018 --> 00:45:22,007 least you guys definitely have where uh bill burr was on uh 910 00:45:22,088 --> 00:45:26,177 mandalorian and just these little uh spot like actors that 911 00:45:26,217 --> 00:45:29,666 are getting like these little kind of like opportunities and I 912 00:45:29,666 --> 00:45:33,440 I just it's another thing that I'm really enjoying about the 913 00:45:33,501 --> 00:45:37,856 disney star wars yeah, because I , I think a lot of people are 914 00:45:38,056 --> 00:45:42,295 super willing to, you know, be a part of star wars, even though, 915 00:45:42,295 --> 00:45:45,324 historically speaking, especially in the past, you know 916 00:45:45,324 --> 00:45:48,358 a couple decades being a part of star wars is not always a 917 00:45:48,378 --> 00:45:50,001 good thing and you get a lot of hate online. 918 00:45:50,523 --> 00:45:54,217 Speaker 2: But, yes, I, I think that that's pretty cool asha may 919 00:45:54,217 --> 00:45:59,726 what rose tico little annie yeah, no, I actually felt bad 920 00:45:59,788 --> 00:46:04,362 for him and ahmed best yes yeah, yeah, I don't. 921 00:46:04,443 --> 00:46:07,010 Speaker 1: I don't think they deserved it to get ragged on 922 00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:07,572 like that. 923 00:46:07,713 --> 00:46:10,018 Speaker 2: No, nobody deserves to get ragged on, you know, for 924 00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:13,306 a role that they played in a movie, absolutely unless they 925 00:46:13,347 --> 00:46:15,681 like, antagonize people for it. 926 00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:20,273 Speaker 1: You know kind of kind of um like you have the the I 927 00:46:20,512 --> 00:46:22,940 I'm not gonna get too deep into it, but, like you know, there's 928 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,536 the whole snow white thing that happened and like the main 929 00:46:26,717 --> 00:46:29,985 actress was starting to antagonize people but I don't 930 00:46:30,025 --> 00:46:36,739 think the hate was equivalent and that's the thing he, I don't 931 00:46:36,739 --> 00:46:41,329 think like what she did, warranted the outburst and 932 00:46:41,414 --> 00:46:45,887 outrage that you know ensued, same with like well, she, she 933 00:46:46,128 --> 00:46:46,971 would, I want to. 934 00:46:46,990 --> 00:46:49,518 She antagonized people and was like, oh well, I don't need your 935 00:46:49,518 --> 00:46:52,155 business and that kind of stuff , you know, like that's that is, 936 00:46:52,155 --> 00:46:54,378 you know, like that's what I'm saying like she kind of 937 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:58,527 antagonized people, whereas these people just did their job 938 00:46:58,706 --> 00:47:03,606 and they got made fun of for it and they got attacked and and I 939 00:47:03,706 --> 00:47:06,835 wish that jake lloyd would have gotten kind of a second chance, 940 00:47:06,956 --> 00:47:10,724 in the same way that ahmed best did, like I'm. 941 00:47:10,724 --> 00:47:13,755 I think it's really cool that they, like you know, worked them 942 00:47:13,755 --> 00:47:17,123 in to be like a really like awesome jedi master. 943 00:47:17,766 --> 00:47:19,951 Speaker 2: So but yeah, he did show back up. 944 00:47:19,951 --> 00:47:25,467 So what's different about ahmed best and jar jar is I think 945 00:47:25,507 --> 00:47:28,235 that he was already an adult by the time that he played that 946 00:47:28,275 --> 00:47:31,384 character yeah, yeah, absolutely the. 947 00:47:31,384 --> 00:47:35,034 The thing with jake lloyd is, you know, you're not a fully 948 00:47:35,215 --> 00:47:37,422 functioning, even teenager at that point. 949 00:47:37,422 --> 00:47:40,550 So yeah, that was, that was. 950 00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:43,018 Uh, that's a sad story for another day. 951 00:47:43,018 --> 00:47:48,331 Yes, yeah, let's, let's jump forward to the second arc, 952 00:47:49,054 --> 00:47:50,739 unless we have anything else to say about the first arc. 953 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,827 Speaker 4: Rich, no first three episodes. 954 00:47:53,088 --> 00:47:55,898 Speaker 1: No, you guys got it covered pretty well right, right 955 00:47:55,898 --> 00:48:00,027 , yeah, that first arc really like sets the stage for the 956 00:48:00,086 --> 00:48:00,648 second arc. 957 00:48:00,648 --> 00:48:05,329 Because you know this is where cassian is brought over to these 958 00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:09,159 group of rebels that you know they have a plan but their plan 959 00:48:09,338 --> 00:48:10,021 is not. 960 00:48:10,021 --> 00:48:13,347 Even you know it's not a hundred percent, and he calls it 961 00:48:13,347 --> 00:48:13,467 out. 962 00:48:13,467 --> 00:48:15,818 He's like y'all don't know, y'all know how. 963 00:48:15,818 --> 00:48:17,039 Do you know how this? 964 00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:18,581 Know what y'all are doing right now? 965 00:48:18,581 --> 00:48:20,905 You know how to fly this. 966 00:48:20,905 --> 00:48:21,887 Yeah. 967 00:48:22,547 --> 00:48:24,210 Speaker 2: Their plan had a lot of holes in it. 968 00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:24,550 Yeah. 969 00:48:26,155 --> 00:48:27,255 Like a lot of holes and they were only five. 970 00:48:27,255 --> 00:48:30,137 They had been planning for like what they said five months and 971 00:48:30,157 --> 00:48:34,505 they only had like five days left before they actually had to 972 00:48:34,505 --> 00:48:36,128 do the thing that they needed to do. 973 00:48:36,128 --> 00:48:41,927 I did really like the cover that they chose for this 974 00:48:42,034 --> 00:48:42,777 particular event. 975 00:48:42,777 --> 00:48:47,471 Yeah, like happens every three years on the dot has happened 976 00:48:47,891 --> 00:48:51,840 for time immemorial on this planet, aldani, where basically 977 00:48:52,221 --> 00:48:58,197 it's this huge celestial event where it's almost akin to 50 978 00:48:58,257 --> 00:49:00,041 meteor showers happening all at once. 979 00:49:00,422 --> 00:49:04,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's like the movie your name happening 50 980 00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:11,996 times it's crazy yeah, no, it was such a beautiful event and I 981 00:49:11,996 --> 00:49:13,001 thought it was so cool. 982 00:49:13,061 --> 00:49:16,050 Speaker 2: Man, I do, it's one of the most magical star wars 983 00:49:16,090 --> 00:49:19,742 moments yeah, right star wars, like it's just like like the awe 984 00:49:19,742 --> 00:49:22,139 and the spectacle and like you can kind of. 985 00:49:22,139 --> 00:49:26,541 They played it so realistically Because, like they, even like 986 00:49:26,581 --> 00:49:29,199 the Imperials, Like this is something that you know when 987 00:49:29,219 --> 00:49:30,844 they're stationed on this place. 988 00:49:30,844 --> 00:49:33,338 Oh, you got to see the eye, you got to be there for the eye. 989 00:49:33,338 --> 00:49:41,219 They talked about that, they were excited about that and 990 00:49:41,259 --> 00:49:42,907 everyone acted like you would in the real world if this was an 991 00:49:42,927 --> 00:49:43,429 event that's happening. 992 00:49:43,449 --> 00:49:44,494 Speaker 3: You have an eclipse, that's happening outside you 993 00:49:44,514 --> 00:49:45,358 have a solar eclipse. 994 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,588 Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna have their glasses, everyone's gonna 995 00:49:47,588 --> 00:49:49,936 be prepared, everyone's gonna find a spot to, you know, 996 00:49:50,057 --> 00:49:51,820 witness a total solar eclipse. 997 00:49:52,121 --> 00:49:55,369 Speaker 1: Absolutely because that is mind-blowing, you know, 998 00:49:55,514 --> 00:49:59,945 and this is, like I would say, more mind-blowing yeah, no, no, 999 00:49:59,965 --> 00:50:07,204 seriously, if we it's like it's like mixing a meteor shower with 1000 00:50:07,204 --> 00:50:12,097 an aurora borealis, like mixed together, it just the sky was 1001 00:50:12,257 --> 00:50:16,302 all lit up and it was kind of different colors and it looked 1002 00:50:16,443 --> 00:50:19,025 so cool and that that's. 1003 00:50:19,025 --> 00:50:23,277 I thought that that sequence was really, really cool, where 1004 00:50:23,577 --> 00:50:26,003 you know, they're kind of like everybody's getting into place 1005 00:50:26,264 --> 00:50:29,599 and then, yeah, man, like when they actually get to that vault 1006 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:33,248 and they like bust it open, like I knew that things were just 1007 00:50:33,275 --> 00:50:34,137 gonna get crazy. 1008 00:50:34,137 --> 00:50:37,425 Yeah, like somebody was gonna start snooping around and be 1009 00:50:37,485 --> 00:50:40,262 like like their comms aren't gonna be all the way down or 1010 00:50:40,302 --> 00:50:40,643 something. 1011 00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:43,695 Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be something the crazy thing 1012 00:50:43,735 --> 00:50:48,083 about the stakes in andor is that the only characters you 1013 00:50:48,164 --> 00:50:52,121 know for certain that will make it out of this show alive that 1014 00:50:52,161 --> 00:50:55,454 they've introduced are cassie and andor and mon mothma. 1015 00:50:55,474 --> 00:50:58,059 Those are the only two individuals in the entirety of 1016 00:50:58,099 --> 00:51:05,320 the show that are safe, at least in this show, because we know 1017 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,501 Cassian exists past this point, we know Mon exists past this 1018 00:51:08,521 --> 00:51:08,661 point. 1019 00:51:08,661 --> 00:51:13,101 But everybody else is expendable and the script uses 1020 00:51:13,121 --> 00:51:13,983 that to its advantage. 1021 00:51:13,983 --> 00:51:15,795 You don't know who's going to make it out alive. 1022 00:51:15,795 --> 00:51:16,659 You don't know who's going to turn on you. 1023 00:51:16,659 --> 00:51:17,646 You don't know who's going to make it out alive. 1024 00:51:17,646 --> 00:51:18,492 You don't know who's going to turn on you. 1025 00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:20,958 You don't know Like even characters like Luthan. 1026 00:51:20,958 --> 00:51:23,664 We have no idea if he ever gets to see. 1027 00:51:23,664 --> 00:51:30,039 You know the United Rebellion Right yeah, takes on the Empire 1028 00:51:30,521 --> 00:51:31,262 in the original trilogy. 1029 00:51:31,335 --> 00:51:33,302 We don't know that that's going to happen at this point. 1030 00:51:34,496 --> 00:51:35,356 So, it's really. 1031 00:51:35,356 --> 00:51:40,001 It's a really cool concept and I think you know we've kind of 1032 00:51:40,041 --> 00:51:42,664 danced around why this is so good, and I think part of it is 1033 00:51:42,704 --> 00:51:44,786 just writing and directing. 1034 00:51:44,786 --> 00:51:48,349 You have a very competent writer, you have a very 1035 00:51:48,489 --> 00:51:53,000 competent directing group or I should say writing group and 1036 00:51:53,019 --> 00:51:54,425 directing group Because there's multiple writers, multiple 1037 00:51:54,445 --> 00:51:58,565 directors for this series and they used the same writer that 1038 00:51:58,625 --> 00:52:01,454 they got for the rewrites of rogue one. 1039 00:52:01,454 --> 00:52:04,181 Some something in rogue one wasn't working, so they called 1040 00:52:04,222 --> 00:52:07,295 in this guy, tony gilroy, who, notably, has mentioned in the 1041 00:52:07,335 --> 00:52:11,505 past and this is like you know, in like the rogue one era that 1042 00:52:11,545 --> 00:52:14,719 he wasn't a star wars fan when he was writing rogue one and I 1043 00:52:14,858 --> 00:52:19,967 think that was a strength in his thing, because you kind of for 1044 00:52:20,007 --> 00:52:23,481 something like andor to work, you need someone on the outside 1045 00:52:23,862 --> 00:52:27,295 to look at things from a different vantage point and this 1046 00:52:27,295 --> 00:52:29,021 is that's exactly what andor is . 1047 00:52:29,081 --> 00:52:30,829 It's a different vantage point in the galaxy. 1048 00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:32,034 You have the rebellion. 1049 00:52:32,034 --> 00:52:33,699 You know that these are good guys. 1050 00:52:33,699 --> 00:52:37,226 Everything in the original trilogy says that these are the 1051 00:52:37,286 --> 00:52:38,277 guys you're rooting for. 1052 00:52:38,277 --> 00:52:40,764 These are the good guys, good guys who are bringing down the 1053 00:52:40,804 --> 00:52:41,706 oppressive government. 1054 00:52:41,706 --> 00:52:46,186 But to do so, to get to that point, you got to get dirty. 1055 00:52:46,186 --> 00:52:49,860 Things have to get really bad and really nasty and you're 1056 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,068 going to make mistakes and you're going to have, basically, 1057 00:52:53,068 --> 00:52:55,954 small acts of terrorism, which is what we ended up seeing in. 1058 00:52:56,094 --> 00:53:00,143 Aldani, and they don't really understand what a rebellion is 1059 00:53:00,204 --> 00:53:00,684 at this point. 1060 00:53:00,684 --> 00:53:05,717 They only see it as small acts of, you know, organized violence 1061 00:53:05,717 --> 00:53:06,438 or crime. 1062 00:53:06,438 --> 00:53:08,583 Right, that helps bring them down. 1063 00:53:08,583 --> 00:53:11,697 So, and that's that's what we have in this, this arc, and it's 1064 00:53:11,697 --> 00:53:14,302 so good and there's not even. 1065 00:53:14,943 --> 00:53:15,204 Speaker 1: You know. 1066 00:53:15,204 --> 00:53:19,110 The group doesn't even fully trust each other either, you 1067 00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:19,331 know? 1068 00:53:19,331 --> 00:53:21,114 Yeah, that's another thing. 1069 00:53:21,114 --> 00:53:26,981 It's that this is such an early budding version of the 1070 00:53:27,061 --> 00:53:31,768 rebellion that we get in the original or Star Wars trilogy. 1071 00:53:31,768 --> 00:53:37,007 I mean, like you said, you know you're getting gritty and that 1072 00:53:37,369 --> 00:53:40,717 might consist of some of the rebels killing each other. 1073 00:53:40,717 --> 00:53:43,811 You know and you get. 1074 00:53:44,405 --> 00:53:46,545 Speaker 2: You get guerrilla warfare, basically Rich. 1075 00:53:46,545 --> 00:53:50,396 I want to ask, like, how you feel about the rebellion at this 1076 00:53:50,396 --> 00:53:50,836 stage? 1077 00:53:50,836 --> 00:53:54,474 Like, how do you feel like they ? 1078 00:53:54,474 --> 00:53:56,028 What are your thoughts on it? 1079 00:53:56,028 --> 00:53:58,246 It like are they good guys at this point? 1080 00:53:58,246 --> 00:53:59,068 Are they terrorists? 1081 00:53:59,068 --> 00:54:02,096 Are they trying to do the right thing for the you know, or 1082 00:54:02,135 --> 00:54:03,527 doing the wrong thing for the right reasons? 1083 00:54:04,088 --> 00:54:05,612 Speaker 4: are they're doing the right thing. 1084 00:54:05,612 --> 00:54:10,210 I mean, I I think back to the deleted scene from fringes of 1085 00:54:10,231 --> 00:54:14,938 the sith which would have taken place beforehand, right and bill 1086 00:54:14,938 --> 00:54:18,568 organa, and they're all trying to kind of rally the senate, you 1087 00:54:18,568 --> 00:54:20,632 know, to do the right thing, essentially. 1088 00:54:20,632 --> 00:54:23,606 So I I think I don't think they're. 1089 00:54:23,606 --> 00:54:26,773 I mean, I suppose in some way they are terrorists. 1090 00:54:26,773 --> 00:54:30,708 I'm a little bit, uh, a little bit of a bleeding heart liberal 1091 00:54:30,849 --> 00:54:33,815 over here, so I'm gonna kind of side with the rebellion over 1092 00:54:33,876 --> 00:54:35,759 here, lutheran obviously I I also side with the rebellion 1093 00:54:35,778 --> 00:54:35,960 over here. 1094 00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:37,809 Speaker 2: Lutheran, obviously I I also side with the rebellion. 1095 00:54:37,911 --> 00:54:40,079 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say that oh well, I mean, no, no, 1096 00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:43,509 you're, you're, yeah, no, you're the american conglomerate and 1097 00:54:43,548 --> 00:54:45,070 you're just opposing vietnam. 1098 00:54:45,070 --> 00:54:52,231 Uh, no, but like I'm at the same time, like I think that 1099 00:54:52,271 --> 00:54:57,222 there will put together at the same, but I I wouldn't again. 1100 00:54:57,222 --> 00:55:00,789 This is my own poison, but you know, like luthan seems like a 1101 00:55:00,849 --> 00:55:04,697 guy who, if you just put an infinity stone towards his heart 1102 00:55:04,697 --> 00:55:07,490 , you know like he might completely betray everything he 1103 00:55:07,530 --> 00:55:10,396 believes in and I interesting. 1104 00:55:10,617 --> 00:55:11,539 Speaker 2: Okay, so all right. 1105 00:55:11,539 --> 00:55:12,907 So you have the rebel. 1106 00:55:12,907 --> 00:55:14,572 You have the rebels on aldani. 1107 00:55:14,572 --> 00:55:17,237 You're saying that like you definitely consider them the 1108 00:55:17,257 --> 00:55:19,913 good guys and, for the intents of the story, they are the good 1109 00:55:19,932 --> 00:55:20,092 guys. 1110 00:55:20,313 --> 00:55:20,474 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1111 00:55:20,625 --> 00:55:22,748 Speaker 2: That's not really a question and we understand that 1112 00:55:22,788 --> 00:55:24,695 what they're doing is for the greater good. 1113 00:55:24,695 --> 00:55:29,534 The Empire is doing so much more harm than the Rebellion 1114 00:55:29,655 --> 00:55:30,958 ever could or ever wishes to. 1115 00:55:30,958 --> 00:55:33,570 So you know what they're doing is necessary, necessary. 1116 00:55:33,570 --> 00:55:37,907 But you're saying that luthen doesn't seem like a totally good 1117 00:55:37,907 --> 00:55:41,675 guy and given the opportunity, he would stab. 1118 00:55:41,675 --> 00:55:44,985 Well, we, we know that he is like a backstabber in certain 1119 00:55:45,126 --> 00:56:04,967 aspects or form, like I don't think he was inspired to join 1120 00:56:04,987 --> 00:56:09,954 the rebellion because he wanted profit or safety. 1121 00:56:10,817 --> 00:56:14,286 Speaker 4: But there's a part of me that I'm not sure if it's 1122 00:56:14,327 --> 00:56:19,217 very sol guerrera but I just don't trust that Luthan is doing 1123 00:56:19,217 --> 00:56:22,405 this a thousand percent for the right reasons. 1124 00:56:22,405 --> 00:56:28,373 I think that there is a something that maybe motivates 1125 00:56:28,432 --> 00:56:34,181 him past his desire for political justice. 1126 00:56:34,181 --> 00:56:37,443 Like, I don't know in the same way that I don't trust chuck 1127 00:56:37,463 --> 00:56:42,032 schumer, I don't like, I don't know, like I I there's something 1128 00:56:42,032 --> 00:56:45,425 that inherently I'm like I don't believe you. 1129 00:56:45,425 --> 00:56:49,273 I don't know why, but I don't believe you, and I'm not sure if 1130 00:56:49,273 --> 00:56:54,411 it's the wig or what it is about him it's a facade. 1131 00:56:55,032 --> 00:56:58,806 Speaker 2: And he and that's a great scene too when he puts his 1132 00:56:58,806 --> 00:57:02,813 wig on and he kind of does a little dance and he smiles and 1133 00:57:02,853 --> 00:57:06,278 he just gets into character right before he has to go back 1134 00:57:06,318 --> 00:57:06,619 to work. 1135 00:57:06,619 --> 00:57:07,139 Quote, unquote. 1136 00:57:07,139 --> 00:57:12,052 It's a fascinating scene and, yeah, we don't really know if 1137 00:57:12,112 --> 00:57:14,637 he's a good guy or not or what his true motives are. 1138 00:57:14,637 --> 00:57:15,945 We don't know his background. 1139 00:57:15,945 --> 00:57:18,373 You know, in the first season I think there was a lot of people 1140 00:57:18,373 --> 00:57:23,869 who you know really bought into the rumor that luthan was, you 1141 00:57:23,909 --> 00:57:27,237 know, a jedi or a former jedi and he's trying to take down the 1142 00:57:27,237 --> 00:57:29,931 empire because of what they did to the order. 1143 00:57:29,931 --> 00:57:33,365 But we don't know, we've got no confirmation about anything 1144 00:57:33,666 --> 00:57:35,170 with that or anything about that . 1145 00:57:35,170 --> 00:57:40,461 With luthuther, he doesn't seem to necessarily be, or he hasn't 1146 00:57:40,461 --> 00:57:42,365 shown any force, sensitivity or anything like that. 1147 00:57:42,847 --> 00:57:46,034 Speaker 1: So, yeah, well, I mean honestly, you could say 1148 00:57:46,094 --> 00:57:50,628 that literally about everybody in this show, everybody cassian 1149 00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:56,197 cassian has he's shown the ability to to kind of like, you 1150 00:57:56,217 --> 00:57:59,072 know, backstab and just be like you know, I just want my money 1151 00:57:59,414 --> 00:58:00,137 and I'm out of here. 1152 00:58:00,137 --> 00:58:02,949 You know literally everybody in that group. 1153 00:58:02,949 --> 00:58:07,507 Yes, they wanted to get back at the Empire, but literally for 1154 00:58:07,567 --> 00:58:08,753 their own reasons. 1155 00:58:08,753 --> 00:58:11,364 They all had their own reasons for doing what they did. 1156 00:58:11,364 --> 00:58:16,063 It wasn't for a collective kind of rebellion, like you said. 1157 00:58:16,063 --> 00:58:20,092 There's different cells but there's not really a united 1158 00:58:20,192 --> 00:58:24,166 front rebellion and it's showing that they each really have 1159 00:58:24,246 --> 00:58:26,592 their own motive for doing what they're doing. 1160 00:58:26,592 --> 00:58:30,369 They're kind of uniting for the sake of uniting, but there's a 1161 00:58:30,409 --> 00:58:32,393 you know, you see, that they don't trust each other. 1162 00:58:32,393 --> 00:58:34,487 You have them getting angry. 1163 00:58:34,487 --> 00:58:35,010 That you got. 1164 00:58:34,972 --> 00:58:35,460 You know cassian is being promised to be. 1165 00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:36,030 You know that they don't trust each other. 1166 00:58:36,030 --> 00:58:36,797 You have them getting angry. 1167 00:58:36,797 --> 00:58:37,039 That you got. 1168 00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:38,686 You know cassian is being promised to be. 1169 00:58:38,686 --> 00:58:41,855 You know that he's getting paid and so, yeah, a lot of them. 1170 00:58:41,855 --> 00:58:44,166 And the other guy man, I forgot his name. 1171 00:58:44,166 --> 00:58:49,356 The other shady guy, keen, yeah , skiing skiing. 1172 00:58:49,436 --> 00:58:51,746 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, with a name like skiing, you got to be 1173 00:58:51,766 --> 00:58:58,418 a little yeah, yeah, so so you have skeen and he has his own 1174 00:58:58,485 --> 00:59:02,934 motives and like when, after they escape, they escape the dam 1175 00:59:02,934 --> 00:59:03,496 he kind of. 1176 00:59:03,556 --> 00:59:07,353 He kind of abandons the, the rebel cause, for the sake of, 1177 00:59:07,594 --> 00:59:08,557 you know, personal gain. 1178 00:59:08,557 --> 00:59:10,704 He hasn't even like he no longer. 1179 00:59:10,704 --> 00:59:14,398 Even I, I do believe that he had a brother and you know, like 1180 00:59:14,398 --> 00:59:17,347 he, you know his original plight against the empire was 1181 00:59:17,548 --> 00:59:17,789 real. 1182 00:59:17,789 --> 00:59:21,302 But for all intents and purposes, the amount of money, 1183 00:59:21,623 --> 00:59:24,009 like 40 million, that he was planning to, you know, take for 1184 00:59:24,048 --> 00:59:27,697 himself was enough for him to forget about everybody. 1185 00:59:27,998 --> 00:59:31,070 Speaker 1: You know right, right , and in that moment I don't 1186 00:59:31,192 --> 00:59:31,733 think that. 1187 00:59:31,733 --> 00:59:33,036 So cassian kills him. 1188 00:59:33,036 --> 00:59:35,264 But I don't think it was because he was like, oh, he was 1189 00:59:35,184 --> 00:59:35,525 gonna take off him. 1190 00:59:35,525 --> 00:59:36,586 But I don't think it was because he was like, oh, he was 1191 00:59:36,606 --> 00:59:38,112 going to take off and leave with the money. 1192 00:59:38,112 --> 00:59:41,673 I think it was because he knew that if he were to leave with 1193 00:59:41,693 --> 00:59:44,206 this guy, that this guy was going to try to kill him, and so 1194 00:59:44,206 --> 00:59:45,932 I think it was out of self-preservation. 1195 00:59:45,932 --> 00:59:50,286 So I mean, when you really go back to it, you could point your 1196 00:59:50,286 --> 00:59:54,239 finger to any one of these characters and say that they 1197 00:59:54,278 --> 00:59:57,286 really have their own motive to do what they're doing and it's 1198 00:59:57,327 --> 00:59:59,331 not really for the greater good. 1199 00:59:59,331 --> 01:00:04,385 I mean, sure, it may affect for a positive, you know, stealing 1200 01:00:04,425 --> 01:00:10,021 from the empire is a positive, but in a way they're kind of 1201 01:00:10,041 --> 01:00:12,807 seeing it like they're getting what they feel is owed to them. 1202 01:00:12,867 --> 01:00:15,052 Speaker 2: You know yeah, no 100 . 1203 01:00:15,052 --> 01:00:18,967 I really loved this second arc. 1204 01:00:19,387 --> 01:00:24,362 It's the one that I remember most when I think back to this 1205 01:00:24,422 --> 01:00:27,188 first season of andor, just because, like, the spectacle 1206 01:00:27,248 --> 01:00:31,777 that was the eye of aldani is just so burned into my memory. 1207 01:00:31,838 --> 01:00:36,356 It's just such a great scene and it was the whole heist was done 1208 01:00:36,356 --> 01:00:38,128 so well and written so well. 1209 01:00:38,128 --> 01:00:42,043 And again, like tony gilroy and his writing team I don't know 1210 01:00:42,083 --> 01:00:45,331 if tony gilroy is a star wars fan now, but like back in the 1211 01:00:45,371 --> 01:00:48,344 rogue one days he had mentioned that he wasn't a fan so like 1212 01:00:48,585 --> 01:00:52,592 coming into the universe without all that baggage that is 1213 01:00:52,632 --> 01:00:56,980 inherent to fandom probably, you know, gave him the edge with, 1214 01:00:57,159 --> 01:00:58,266 you know, writing these scripts. 1215 01:00:58,266 --> 01:01:04,717 But, as rich was saying, being boxed in by the canon really, 1216 01:01:04,998 --> 01:01:06,907 really worked in their favor. 1217 01:01:06,907 --> 01:01:11,943 And I think that's the like of all of the star wars shows or of 1218 01:01:11,943 --> 01:01:15,193 all the star wars content, really, that we've gotten so far 1219 01:01:15,193 --> 01:01:15,193 . 1220 01:01:15,193 --> 01:01:19,311 This is the strongest case that I can find for the lucasfilm 1221 01:01:19,353 --> 01:01:24,887 story group, which is like their collective canon moderators 1222 01:01:25,367 --> 01:01:28,414 that you know, like they know everything that there is to know 1223 01:01:28,414 --> 01:01:31,467 , like they have people who are good at timeline stuff, good at 1224 01:01:31,527 --> 01:01:35,291 planet stuff, culture and you know aesthetic and all that 1225 01:01:35,472 --> 01:01:35,693 right. 1226 01:01:35,833 --> 01:01:40,659 And having that team come into a project like this and say this 1227 01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:42,586 is available to you, this is available to you. 1228 01:01:42,586 --> 01:01:44,150 Keep going down this way. 1229 01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:47,186 You're you're like this is a perfect path to go down. 1230 01:01:47,186 --> 01:01:51,612 Having that guide for someone who isn't a big Star Wars fan 1231 01:01:51,731 --> 01:01:56,958 and somehow marrying those two concepts into the show is so, so 1232 01:01:56,958 --> 01:01:59,630 cool, and I'm such a fan. 1233 01:01:59,630 --> 01:02:02,942 I can't wait to finally watch the second half of the season 1234 01:02:03,163 --> 01:02:03,864 for the next episode. 1235 01:02:04,105 --> 01:02:08,833 Speaker 1: I also believe that what really helps us out is that 1236 01:02:08,833 --> 01:02:10,978 it's not a Star Wars TV show. 1237 01:02:10,978 --> 01:02:15,739 It's a show that's set in the Star Wars universe, and you know 1238 01:02:15,739 --> 01:02:15,938 it's. 1239 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,771 Yeah, that's a good way to put it and and it takes away a lot 1240 01:02:19,851 --> 01:02:24,324 of that mysticism that the main storyline has which don't get me 1241 01:02:24,324 --> 01:02:28,293 wrong, you know that's what we came to know and love about star 1242 01:02:28,293 --> 01:02:31,931 wars but the fact that we came in and we got something that was 1243 01:02:31,931 --> 01:02:35,282 different and that it worked and it didn't feel like they 1244 01:02:35,302 --> 01:02:39,652 were trying to force it but it felt natural, I think that man, 1245 01:02:39,713 --> 01:02:44,750 they killed it and this is not a show that someone like george 1246 01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:47,516 lucas or dave filoni could have ever come up with in a million 1247 01:02:47,536 --> 01:02:47,737 years. 1248 01:02:48,097 --> 01:02:50,289 Speaker 2: You give them 400 scripts. 1249 01:02:50,289 --> 01:02:53,076 They're not going to come up with something like this because 1250 01:02:53,076 --> 01:02:55,929 they will always like gear towards the more mystical and 1251 01:02:55,949 --> 01:03:00,538 the more like sci-fi aspects of it or science fantasy aspects of 1252 01:03:00,538 --> 01:03:00,659 it. 1253 01:03:00,659 --> 01:03:04,452 And yeah, it's just a completely different type of 1254 01:03:04,492 --> 01:03:07,751 Star Wars that we're not used to and I think it's so refreshing 1255 01:03:07,811 --> 01:03:08,253 to watch. 1256 01:03:08,253 --> 01:03:11,347 But I think we should come to a close with our podcast. 1257 01:03:11,347 --> 01:03:12,188 Any last thoughts? 1258 01:03:12,188 --> 01:03:13,090 We'll start with you, Rich. 1259 01:03:13,871 --> 01:03:15,753 Speaker 4: It's bothering me that I can't remember his name, 1260 01:03:16,313 --> 01:03:20,577 but the character who I liked the most in the first yeah, 1261 01:03:21,018 --> 01:03:21,539 exactly. 1262 01:03:21,900 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Brasso, yeah, I forgot. 1263 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,570 I mean he's the guy who. 1264 01:03:26,251 --> 01:03:29,371 Speaker 4: It's crazy because like now that I've seen more of 1265 01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:38,025 it and there this seems to be a running gag with me that I, once 1266 01:03:38,025 --> 01:03:40,510 I see more of a show, I enjoy a character's earlier performance 1267 01:03:40,510 --> 01:03:44,019 more, but I it really kind of bummed me out that we lost him. 1268 01:03:44,019 --> 01:03:48,690 He seemed so interesting and I almost wish we could have had a 1269 01:03:48,730 --> 01:03:52,137 little bit more of him oh, I think you mean nemek. 1270 01:03:52,697 --> 01:03:56,643 Yeah, nemek nemek is the, is the guy that I just he was somebody 1271 01:03:56,643 --> 01:03:58,748 who really he's out there. 1272 01:03:58,748 --> 01:04:03,476 He was different and I really kind of enjoyed him and I wish 1273 01:04:03,496 --> 01:04:06,050 that there was a little bit more of him. 1274 01:04:06,050 --> 01:04:09,943 He just I don't know if you've, I've, I'm a very, as I've 1275 01:04:10,103 --> 01:04:13,572 mentioned many times, I'm very old the, uh, mission impossible 1276 01:04:13,612 --> 01:04:14,012 movie. 1277 01:04:14,012 --> 01:04:17,586 At the beginning I remember I really loved emilio estevez's 1278 01:04:17,648 --> 01:04:18,188 character. 1279 01:04:18,188 --> 01:04:19,110 He was like the. 1280 01:04:19,110 --> 01:04:22,905 He was basically like like nick nemec, he's like the techie guy 1281 01:04:22,905 --> 01:04:26,213 that everyone trusted and he dies within like the first nine 1282 01:04:26,253 --> 01:04:30,369 minutes of the movie and I was like, no, and that's how I, um, 1283 01:04:31,150 --> 01:04:32,432 I felt about nemec here. 1284 01:04:32,432 --> 01:04:36,599 I kind of, you know, because he's the guy who I would be 1285 01:04:36,784 --> 01:04:39,913 right Like, he's the character that I could see myself most as 1286 01:04:40,092 --> 01:04:43,045 and I'm like, oh no, he died, although he's writing a 1287 01:04:43,086 --> 01:04:47,576 manifesto and he's trying to like put into words what the 1288 01:04:47,617 --> 01:04:50,489 rebellion means to him and what oppression means to him. 1289 01:04:51,269 --> 01:04:53,092 Speaker 2: I think he's a very powerful character, even though 1290 01:04:53,132 --> 01:04:57,525 he's probably physically the weakest of those people, but his 1291 01:04:57,525 --> 01:05:03,208 heart was 100% in it, probably more than anyone else there, at 1292 01:05:03,248 --> 01:05:03,889 least that we know of. 1293 01:05:03,889 --> 01:05:05,929 But anyway, yeah, nemec's awesome. 1294 01:05:05,929 --> 01:05:08,092 I really also liked Brasso. 1295 01:05:08,092 --> 01:05:11,835 That was Cassian's friend who basically he gave. 1296 01:05:11,835 --> 01:05:16,333 He was the first one Cassian went to when he needed an alibi. 1297 01:05:16,333 --> 01:05:22,052 He goes to brasso and brasso he rolls with it yeah, immediately 1298 01:05:22,052 --> 01:05:22,795 ultimate bro. 1299 01:05:22,994 --> 01:05:27,492 He's the ultimate bro very dark and yeah, I love, I love brasso. 1300 01:05:27,492 --> 01:05:29,976 He's a great character and we're gonna see him next week, 1301 01:05:29,996 --> 01:05:32,068 guys, but anthony, what about you? 1302 01:05:32,068 --> 01:05:32,489 What uh? 1303 01:05:32,489 --> 01:05:36,639 Last thoughts on andor season one, first six episodes it's 1304 01:05:36,744 --> 01:05:39,469 awesome, you know, those first six episodes. 1305 01:05:39,530 --> 01:05:43,958 Speaker 1: They lead up to a really good build-up and I know 1306 01:05:43,978 --> 01:05:47,777 that that build-up is going to continue on and I'm excited 1307 01:05:47,836 --> 01:05:50,425 about the latter half of the season. 1308 01:05:50,706 --> 01:05:53,110 Speaker 2: There's a lot of really cool things that happen, 1309 01:05:53,612 --> 01:05:57,626 a lot of really cool characters and, yeah, man, I'm excited 1310 01:05:58,387 --> 01:06:02,780 there's only one way out, guys, and that's by giving us a juicy 1311 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,831 five-star review and catching us for our next episode, where we 1312 01:06:06,853 --> 01:06:10,344 will actually, you know, talk about the one way out storyline 1313 01:06:11,025 --> 01:06:11,867 on narkina 5. 1314 01:06:11,867 --> 01:06:12,769 That's going to be really fun. 1315 01:06:12,769 --> 01:06:16,858 I'm really excited about that because Andy Serkis in Star Wars 1316 01:06:16,858 --> 01:06:16,858 . 1317 01:06:16,858 --> 01:06:21,989 We had him as Snoke, but seeing him in his physical, regular, 1318 01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:25,231 normal human body is a treat, and he's such a great actor. 1319 01:06:25,672 --> 01:06:26,516 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 1320 01:06:26,644 --> 01:06:30,070 Speaker 2: Definitely come back next week as we cover the next 1321 01:06:30,090 --> 01:06:31,213 six episodes of Andor. 1322 01:06:31,213 --> 01:06:42,126 But again, yeah, I was mentioning you guys got to give 1323 01:06:42,166 --> 01:06:43,088 us a five star juicy review. 1324 01:06:43,088 --> 01:06:44,610 Like a juicy juicy, I was eating a chimichanga on Monday. 1325 01:06:44,610 --> 01:06:46,255 It was a massive chimichanga from a Mexican restaurant, 1326 01:06:46,275 --> 01:06:46,755 chorizo rice beans. 1327 01:06:46,775 --> 01:06:50,987 Oh, it was so juicy and I was thinking that's the, just like 1328 01:06:51,027 --> 01:06:51,829 that chimichanga. 1329 01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:56,117 Your review on whatever podcast app that you're listening to 1330 01:06:56,757 --> 01:07:01,135 should reflect and yeah, that's my personal thoughts. 1331 01:07:01,135 --> 01:07:04,371 Guys, if you want to check out any of our socials, be sure to 1332 01:07:04,672 --> 01:07:07,869 click down into the show notes down below and you can find us 1333 01:07:08,110 --> 01:07:08,371 there. 1334 01:07:08,371 --> 01:07:11,253 But yeah, see you next time, guys. 1335 01:07:11,775 --> 01:07:12,376 Speaker 1: Alrighty peace.