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Speaker 1: My name is Dakota.

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If we wait until they figure
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We will never have a better
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Right now, the site is ours.

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You get them moving and you
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this podcast to the top.

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There are three of us.

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If we can listen half as hard
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be at the top of the algorithm
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Speaker 2: one way out, one way,
way out one way out one way out

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Speaker 1: Guys, my name is
dakota.

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We are covering the second half
of the first season of andor.

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Um, as you you may or may not
have uh remembered uh, keno

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loi's uh speech in the Narkeena
arc.

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What a great speech.

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I don't know if I did justice
with that.

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I hope I did.

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My cheeks are kind of red
because I was very animated in

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my delivery.

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But yeah, again, my name is
Dakota.

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Speaker 2: I'm joined, as always
, with Anthony and yes, so

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Dakota doing this like monologue
, it was actually me that like I

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actually sat down and I kind of
doctored it a little bit and I

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was like yeah, you know, let me
throw some podcast stuff into

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this.

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So so yeah, I definitely sent
that over and we were still kind

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of like deciding whether or not
we were going to do it, but I

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thought it would have been fun.

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But, yes, I am Anthony, and
joining us as always now,

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frequently for a while now, is.

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Speaker 3: Rich, really excited
to talk about this.

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You know, obviously, with the
current season ongoing, uh, it's

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been.

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It's been fun and actually
really informative.

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As I think I say every time
that we talk about something

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that I re-watch, I seem to
really like the second season of

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shows so that I can go back and
appreciate the first season

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more, and that's exactly what is
happening I'm.

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I think there was stuff that I
wasn't really picking up on,

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whether it's just for lack of
attention you know poor, what

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poor watching habits uh, you
know just having my phone out

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and stuff like that where I
think this show really commands

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attention and I'm excited to
talk about it very well put.

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Speaker 1: Um, yeah, the the
current season of andor is still

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ongoing as we're recording this
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You probably, uh, by the time
that this goes out, um, the

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final three episodes of andor
will have either uh, just come

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out or will be coming out in the
next 24 hours.

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So that's exciting.

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Um, as of now, we I think we're
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season of andor.

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And, anthony, did you watch the
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no, I still have to watch
another two of those episodes

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okay, those are the the two best
episodes of star wars tv like

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literally ever.

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I'm just gonna put that out
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Like there has literally never
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it's probably better than most
of the movies as well, if you're

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actually comparing everything
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really good.

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So I'm I'm excited for you to
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We won't spoil anything here,
um, but lots of better than solo

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I would say it's better than
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Uh, personally you know are you
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Solo a fan like I, actually
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I um I'm just such a han guy.

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Speaker 3: My favorite, my
favorite han book, my favorite

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star wars book was the han solo
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Okay, uh, they just collected,
just like his backstory at that

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time, which is, you know, I
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whatever.

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I'm not sure if they've
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those were.

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That was one of my favorite, my
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in love with the character and
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I wanted to like the movie.

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There are a lot of things wrong
with it, but do I have the

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golden dice in my mirror?

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Yes, I do, the one that they
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forever when Rey had to hand
those over to Leia.

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Speaker 1: There you have it.

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Speaker 2: I think Dakota and I
had briefly mentioned it.

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We kind of briefly talked about
it before.

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I mean, obviously it came out
before the pod came out, but I

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think we had mentioned that like
it wasn't like at least to me

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it wasn't like the worst of the
Star Wars movies and I feel I

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feel like the actor who
portrayed Han.

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I feel like he put his best
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Speaker 1: So did we cover Solo
on the podcast?

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I don't even remember or did we
skip it and just go straight

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into Rogue One and all that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we
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I think we skipped it.

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I think we just covered Rogue
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Speaker 1: It's okay, we will
cover Solo a Star Wars story at

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some point, I'm sure.

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Okay, cool, good to know.

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I completely forgot that.

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We completely forgot that.

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Speaker 3: I guess that is kind
of our that's.

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Speaker 1: That's at least my
stance on solo.

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I just I I often just forget it
exists, but uh, yeah, we are

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not here to talk about solo, but
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We have a lot to talk about.

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Star wars wise.

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Um, of course, the the latest
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know, without going into any
particular spoilers, does lead

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into the.

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What's really cool about these,
these three episodes, actually

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is it directly leads into the
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secret cargo and in that episode
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Gold Squadron, they pick up Mon
Mothma as she's being escorted

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out of Coruscant Because she
made a very spicy speech against

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the Empire, like that.

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That rebels episode is the
episode that they uh that like

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she and then she gives another
speech after her coruscant

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speech where she basically like
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It's so cool watching those
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they nearly perfectly line up
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star wars rebels episode.

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I just want Rich, you mentioned
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blowing my mind that you know
most IP stuff.

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I think most people would agree
writers don't like working

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within the boundaries of canon
and that's why when you get

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universes like the DCEU with
different directions and stuff.

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Often the films feel very
different and they have very

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wide.

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You know it's wildly different
in certain areas but, like with

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Star Wars and especially with
Andor, you were right in saying

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that the fact that they're
confined within this canon,

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these parameters that they can't
cross, or they they cross very

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lightly because they do that it
makes what they have to, like

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they just like hold themselves
in and write them out, write

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themselves out, you know, and
it's like the coolest way of,

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you know, expanding the these
stories with andor and all the

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other characters, like mon
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cool stuff, very cool stuff
happening in star wars right now

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And you know, this past week was
, uh, may, may the fourth, so

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may the fourth be with you guys
yes and also may the fourth be

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with y'all and revenge of the
fifth actually, uh, disney did

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have like a may the fourth sale
on their website and then two

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days later for revenge of the
sixth they had, they had another

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like flash sale on on like
their disney store for star wars

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So it wasn't revenge of the
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sixth.

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But I guess that kind of makes
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does.

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Um, I think most people will
say like revenge of the fifth,

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because they're like it's right
after the day after, yeah, yeah

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but anyway, we also got a new
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Speaker 1: Um they, they
released all the all six

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episodes of tales from the
underworld.

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I don't know if any of you guys
checked that out.

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I did not give it I actually
caught the first.

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Speaker 2: I caught the first
two episodes in like an

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interesting way.

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They actually showed it in
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they had
a screen wait, the first night,

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the first two episodes of the
asajj ventress.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't know
you were a fortnight bro, bro

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I'm not really a fortnight
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they were doing they were doing
like an early screening.

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I was like, yeah, let me hop on
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I mean, I I have played
Fortnite from time to time and

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it is like pretty fun,
especially since there's like a

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no-build mode.

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That's the one like whenever I
do play, that's the only one

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that I'll like really hop onto.

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But yeah, man, yeah, so yeah, I
checked it out that way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty
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I don't know if those episodes
like that's pretty neat.

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I don't know if the six
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podcast, but did we ever do
anything for Tales of the Jedi

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or Tales from the Empire?

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Speaker 2: Yes, if I remember
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I don't know if we did both,
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going
to look this up.

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Hold up Project.

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I don't even remember We've had
so many episodes.

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At this point I don't even
remember what episode this is.

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Is it 1-8?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we are in
episode 119.

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Speaker 1: 119.

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I didn't even mention that at
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Empire.

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I'm assuming we did Tales of
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Speaker 3: I think I remember
listening to that episode 80.

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Yes, we did.

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Speaker 2: Tales of the Empire.

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But we didn't do.

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Speaker 1: Tales of the Jedi
yeah, so I mean, if we want to,

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we could keep it Star Wars
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from the Underworld.

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Speaker 2: If you guys are
interested, next week break up

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the Andor fun or we can just
continue through Andor and, you

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know like go through season 2
because it's like fresh in

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everybody's minds yeah, I I
think that that would be good to

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kind of I mean, tales of the
underworld is new, but I do want

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to kind of give people a little
bit more time to, like you know

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, get and get into and watch
andor to uh season two, because

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I mean, like you know, andor is
like one of those shows that

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like it's really good but like
people are slow to get to it.

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That's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen a lot
of people online who have

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basically just been told for the
past decade that Disney has

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ruined Star Wars and they
haven't given Andor a chance, or

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they just assume it's boring
because it's like a pretentious

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uh, top, like you know, top
shelf kind of show, um, so that

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they they've written it off just
because it's disney star wars.

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And, yeah, I, I that's the
sentiment that I see a lot

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actually online, um, which is
really upsetting because it's

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actually like legitimately very
good.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I'll
always say it, I just don't, you

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know.

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If you don't like it, don't
watch it.

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It's just like I don't um yeah,
in my world, star wars is

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something that happened a long,
long time ago in a galaxy far

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away.

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I download it as history from
another galaxy.

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I don't argue it.

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I don't argue france ferdinand
getting shot to start world war

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one.

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All right, I, I, I don't.

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I don't argue that stuff, that
that stuff is ancient history.

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It happened, it occurred.

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Shays' Rebellion happened, and
you know what else happened.

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The Battle of Yavin, and you
know what else happened Obi-Wan

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for some reason being protected
by a line of fire where Vader

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could have walked around it.

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Look, them's the breaks, guys.

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Stuff happens, alright, I'm
just I, them's are the breaks.

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Speaker 2: I understand where,
like, people are coming from,

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because there are certain things
within the IP that have been

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mishandled and like that kind of
landed not in, you know a

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really good way.

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I mean like obviously, like I
mean Dakota.

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You remember talking about how
you weren a really good way.

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I mean like obviously, like I
mean dakota.

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You remember talking about how
you weren't really 100% bored on

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obi-wan and even like the
ahsoka show, and I actually love

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both of those characters.

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So I understand where they're
coming from, you know.

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I mean I get where you're
saying rich, but I, you know,

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it's still a, it's still a
fictional world and a fictional

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IP.

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So if somebody feels like
somebody's kind of coming in and

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infringing on that and kind of
taking something that was

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special to them and trying to
inject, you know, I guess, extra

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stuff that they feel that's not
necessary, then you know I can

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understand where they're coming
from.

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But, with that being said, there
is a lot within the disney star

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wars universe that is really
good, you know.

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And or, being one, you know
first couple seasons of the

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mandalorian being another one.

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Uh, dude, we got rogue one.

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Rogue one's amazing, you know,
we there would be no.

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And or, if there was no rug one
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So I mean, yeah, there there's
a, really there's a lot of great

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stuff within the, within the,
the disney star wars universe.

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There's a lot of not so great
stuff.

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But then again a lot of people
said the same thing about, like

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the prequels, uh, the prequel
trilogy of star wars.

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And then now that's kind of
starting to.

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You know people are starting to
come around on that.

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You know hayden christ kind of
starting to.

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You know people are starting to
come around on that.

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You know hayden christensen is
starting to like receive a lot

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of love now for it.

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When he received he was one of
those people that received a lot

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of hate for it also.

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Speaker 1: So so I mean you know
?

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I understand both sides
honestly I see where you're

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coming from.

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Yeah, absolutely so.

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Yeah, I guess uh did anyone do
anything.

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Uh, particularly uh star wars
related for may the 4th or you

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know, like the the this past
week outside of andor.

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Um, that is is worth sharing um
, I did kind of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know,
with may the 4th kind of like

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coming around, there's always
Star Wars like related video

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games that go on sale.

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So there's this game that I
remember playing years ago and

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it's like one of my favorites,
like kind of from like that

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early 2000s era, and it's the
what do you call it?

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it's, um, it's called star wars
bounty hunter and it takes and

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it's about jango fett and it and
it's, um, it's pretty much like

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just after phantom menace and I
think like 10 years prior to

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attack of the clones, and you
kind of like figure out how he

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became the template for the
clones and it's, it's really

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cool.

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I, I.

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It was one of those games I
really enjoyed when I was a kid.

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So when I saw that it was on
sale I was like, dude, I'm on it

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, like I need to hop on it.

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So, yeah, no, I have been
playing that.

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I mean I, and then also I can
share.

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Uh, if, if you guys notice that
my voice is different, I did

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upgrade my microphone system.

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I got a Shure SMB7 and some
other peripherals.

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I've got a Focusrite 2i2, third
generation and a CL1

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Cloudlifter to kind of top it
off, along with a boom arm and

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stuff.

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So I just kind of wanted to
upgrade my mic setup.

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I know dakota said that.

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You know he's interested in
doing it too.

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I also actually, when I
received the microphone, because

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I heard that the smb is one of
those ones that are so easily

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spoofed, I actually had to like
take it apart to make sure that

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it was a legit like um smb
before I I actually, like you

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know, rated it on mercari, you
know, and when you rate it, it

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releases the money and, like you
know, that's it.

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Like you, you can't get you.

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You know, like you, you pretty
much like okayed it.

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So, yeah, no, I took it apart.

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I checked, like the internals
and I was like, okay, yeah, it

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looks legit.

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So so, yeah, man, yeah, I'm
good, I'm good to go.

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Speaker 1: You went on like a
whole little journey with this

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microphone dude.

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Speaker 2: I really did man.

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Speaker 1: Rich, we got to
upgrade.

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Speaker 3: Definitely Mine is
substandard, but it's got three.

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I'm going to tell you what I
love about it, honestly, and the

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reason I have my setup.

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And I did actually, you know,
for a while I was doing more

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podcasts so I had looked into a
couple of different headsets

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that I really liked, and I
always want to do a headset.

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I'll be honest with you, I
don't, uh, I I'm not not sure if

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I'm ready for the, the separate
mic setup, but I got this

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headset because it's got a 3.5
millimeter jack and, uh, I I was

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messing around with some stuff
that had usb connections or

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whatever, and I did not enjoy
the experience.

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I just like the 3.5 millimeter
jack.

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Speaker 1: I think it's much
clearer and I like the audio

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quality yeah, nice, anthony you,
you sent me, you sent me the uh

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, the list of everything that
you got for your mic setup.

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So I'm I'm eagerly waiting to
get paid so I can start like

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chipping away at, uh, some of
that.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited.

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Yeah, well, I mean that that's
what I did, like I got I had.

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I've had this boom arm for a
while and I had the focus right

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for a while.

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I also also had the XLR cables
and the mic extender that I'm

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using.

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I've had that stuff for a while
.

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I literally only needed the
Shure SMB and then the

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Cloudlifter and I literally
found somebody selling both for

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a really good price and the fact
that I checked it out and the

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mic is legit, I'm like, dude, I
really got this for a steal.

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Speaker 1: Nice yeah, because if
you look up all the items that

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you bought, which I did, it
averages out to a little over

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$800 for stock price of that
stuff.

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Speaker 2: I got the Focus right
, so it's the third generation.

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I mean I'm pretty sure that
there's a fourth generation

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that's out.

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Uh, that one, I had gotten that
one for sale, so I got that one

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for a little bit cheaper, uh,
and then everything else, I

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think, was like pretty much on
standard price.

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But yeah, the, the one, the,
the one that was always going to

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be like the.

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The biggest chunk was going to
be the microphone, because even

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like the cloud lifter, the cloud
lifter is 150, but you could

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find, you, you could probably
end up getting it around like

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the 80 to 100 range.

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It's just that sure microphone.

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It.

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Just even the used ones that
are legit, like, maintain their

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price.

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So the fact that I was able to
get both of these in a bundle

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for a good price, I was like
dude, like you know.

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Just I was happy about that
awesome bro.

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Um you do anything else this
week while, while you have the

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spotlight nah, man, uh, just
just gaming on, uh, you know,

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star Bounty Hunter and getting
this microphone set up.

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Speaker 1: Awesome man, rich.

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What about you?

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Let's see.

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Speaker 3: Star Wars Day.

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I obviously just binge watched
a bunch of I think I started

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with I didn't even put it on
Disney to enjoy hitting a good

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weekend of movies on, like you
know, fx or whatever.

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Uh, before I, before I had on
demand everything and it I think

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that you know they were, I
think it was like tnt or maybe

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it was fx was playing like every
single star wars movie with

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commercials, right, which you
would be like.

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Why would you do that to
yourself, rich and I?

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I love this sounds weird, but I
find joy in that two minutes

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that I'm given to run to the
bathroom or to go grab a bag of

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chips and make it back in time,
just for it to start up again,

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like there's something I don't
know about my childhood because

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I didn't have pause so I had to,
like, run upstairs and from the

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basement and get back there in
time.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's safe
to say that, like all of us,

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even Dakota and I lived had a
childhood where there was no

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pause.

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Speaker 3: All right, so you
know, it's that two minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's something like
it's the respite that I kind of

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sometimes needed once in a while
.

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So I I did that and my wife
made actually a bunch of star

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wars themed delights that I did
not get to have any of because

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she brought them to church and
shared them with church people,

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uh, so, uh, there was cupcakes
with those darn churchgoers.

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I know there's these galaxy
cupcakes that had uh x-wing like

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.

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So they were.

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She got chocolate molds so
there were x-wings made of

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chocolate but but painted gray
oh cool all right on top.

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And then there were uh, pretzel
rod lightsabers, uh, for the

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dark and the uh, you know, for
the dark side of the forest.

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Obviously you had the reds, and
then you had a blues, and and

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then she asked me which color
m&ms would be the best color

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buttons on luke's uh hilt and I
said, uh, none of those, because

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it's a slide black button and
uh, yellow and red doesn't work.

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But she went ahead with it
anyway and it was delicious, I

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was told.

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That's really uh, I think what
I was doing in terms of star

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wars stuff, you know, just still
enjoying my, my mets meteoric

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rise to uh, to dominance yeah,
actually dude the mets are doing

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really well this this season
they, uh I'm.

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I look like a genius to my wife
right now because I told my wife

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we're gonna buy a 40 game
season ticket plan and there's

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gonna be a lot of games you
don't have to go to all of them

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and also I will sell some and I
will make our money back.

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Maybe not completely, but
enough to take off a large chunk

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.

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And the mets playing the
yankees over july 4th holiday

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has been a lucrative deal for my
family.

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My friend, I unloaded two games
and I made back a third of

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essentially what I paid for the
season nice, we're still and

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we're still going to the third
game, so nice soon.

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This is, that's very.

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I told my wife I wanted to
start buying just season tickets

460
00:23:16,291 --> 00:23:19,924
for franchises all over the
country and then just flipping

461
00:23:19,945 --> 00:23:23,258
deals and then, uh, she reminded
me that that's a terrible idea.

462
00:23:23,258 --> 00:23:26,628
I just got really lucky that
the mets have become a randomly

463
00:23:26,648 --> 00:23:29,659
good team and people want to go
see them and it's the yankees

464
00:23:29,699 --> 00:23:32,792
and I'm not gonna lie, that's a
lot of you know they're the top

465
00:23:32,813 --> 00:23:35,623
in the league right now, right
oh yeah, this is going to be the

466
00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:38,189
yankees versus the mets is
going to be quite a clash.

467
00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:41,703
Speaker 2: Uh, because both of
them have been on quite a path

468
00:23:42,045 --> 00:23:44,971
yeah, they've both been doing
really well, dakota and rich are

469
00:23:44,971 --> 00:23:48,887
gonna be like in in the stadium
, just like across from each

470
00:23:48,968 --> 00:23:49,169
other.

471
00:23:49,871 --> 00:23:52,980
Speaker 3: Like you, you've got
like binoculars looking across

472
00:23:54,382 --> 00:23:58,549
the the stadium like if, if
dakota with your rich.

473
00:23:58,589 --> 00:24:01,921
Speaker 1: Has this like fist up
, like darn you, you yankees fan

474
00:24:01,921 --> 00:24:06,050
if rich is rich is looking out
at me from across the stadium

475
00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:06,833
with the binoculars.

476
00:24:06,833 --> 00:24:09,904
I just grab a hot dog and I rip
it in half, just drop both

477
00:24:10,005 --> 00:24:10,267
halves.

478
00:24:10,819 --> 00:24:12,929
Speaker 3: Why would you waste a
hot dog?

479
00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:17,824
I will say this, I think,
because I know of your.

480
00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:21,731
You know the moment you had
with Chohei when you were out in

481
00:24:21,731 --> 00:24:22,413
Los Angeles.

482
00:24:22,413 --> 00:24:26,701
When you were out in Los
Angeles, if you come to Citi

483
00:24:26,721 --> 00:24:27,944
Field and you see the Mets
versus the Yankees and you see

484
00:24:27,964 --> 00:24:30,451
the Mets put on some kind of
incredible athletic performance,

485
00:24:30,451 --> 00:24:32,267
you might be swayed, my friend.

486
00:24:33,942 --> 00:24:34,765
Speaker 1: That might be the key
.

487
00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:35,527
I don't know.

488
00:24:35,527 --> 00:24:37,172
That might be it Nice.

489
00:24:37,579 --> 00:24:38,201
Speaker 2: So yeah, dakota.

490
00:24:38,201 --> 00:24:41,587
How much was that one-piece
Yankee shirt?

491
00:24:41,587 --> 00:24:44,814
I don't know it was a gift.

492
00:24:48,023 --> 00:24:48,325
Speaker 3: Come on.

493
00:24:48,384 --> 00:24:51,503
Speaker 2: Rich man, you guys
got to bring one piece and a

494
00:24:51,564 --> 00:24:51,965
fold.

495
00:24:51,965 --> 00:24:52,709
Well, I did.

496
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: One of our players
has some sort of one-piece

497
00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:00,529
adornment on his baseball cleat.

498
00:25:00,529 --> 00:25:04,785
I believe Francisco Lindor had
a character.

499
00:25:04,785 --> 00:25:08,465
I think I sent it to you guys
in the group chat right away

500
00:25:08,526 --> 00:25:11,212
when, when you challenged me
with, uh, with anime being a

501
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,973
little bit more specific, snap,
I think that that that was when

502
00:25:16,013 --> 00:25:20,544
dakota and I were on our uh taco
escapade yeah, when he was down

503
00:25:20,544 --> 00:25:24,391
in miami, literally just like
high on tacos, there's so many

504
00:25:24,411 --> 00:25:28,598
tacos um, that was awesome

505
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,965
Speaker 1: yeah, um, all right,
so I'll jump into what I've been

506
00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:33,670
up to uh, this past week.

507
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:34,961
It's been mostly star wars.

508
00:25:34,961 --> 00:25:37,566
Honestly, I I've been watching
a lot of andor a lot of

509
00:25:37,586 --> 00:25:43,028
re-watching on this season, um,
re-watching the latest episodes,

510
00:25:43,028 --> 00:25:46,519
because, you know, I've just
been uh amazed by the writing

511
00:25:46,558 --> 00:25:46,819
quality.

512
00:25:46,819 --> 00:25:50,327
It's become like the best show
of the year.

513
00:25:50,327 --> 00:25:53,101
It's not even just like a good
star wars show, it's it's like

514
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:55,866
currently the best show of the
year and I don't know how.

515
00:25:56,429 --> 00:25:59,182
Um it also became like the most
relevant show of the year

516
00:25:59,222 --> 00:26:02,351
because it's just like the best
political and cultural

517
00:26:02,510 --> 00:26:05,666
commentary I've ever seen from
star wars, but anyway, so so

518
00:26:05,707 --> 00:26:06,630
that Andor's good.

519
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:08,826
We'll talk more about Andor
later.

520
00:26:08,826 --> 00:26:10,960
This happens to be an
Andor-themed podcast.

521
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:17,269
We, or I, also watched Tales
from the Underworld, which has

522
00:26:17,369 --> 00:26:20,013
three episodes about Asajj
Ventress and three episodes

523
00:26:20,054 --> 00:26:20,815
about Cad Bane.

524
00:26:20,815 --> 00:26:24,492
The Asajj Ventress episodes are
interesting because they take

525
00:26:24,553 --> 00:26:30,086
place post clone wars, um, and
the cad bane stuff takes place

526
00:26:30,386 --> 00:26:35,214
pre-clone wars, so uh it's right
, right, right.

527
00:26:35,255 --> 00:26:38,669
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like
I noticed that and I know we'll

528
00:26:38,669 --> 00:26:43,663
talk more about it that the
asajj ventress ones take up

529
00:26:43,763 --> 00:26:45,108
right after a certain book.

530
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,126
Speaker 1: Dude, I was freaking
out about that.

531
00:26:47,126 --> 00:26:53,036
I was like no way did they
bring the ending of this book to

532
00:26:53,036 --> 00:26:57,730
the small screen for a
10-minute episode.

533
00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:59,740
No way did they do that?

534
00:26:59,859 --> 00:27:00,663
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

535
00:27:00,663 --> 00:27:02,567
Yeah, I was like oh my gosh
what?

536
00:27:03,142 --> 00:27:04,279
Speaker 1: I could not believe
that.

537
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,483
And it's actually like the the
lines that they say in the book

538
00:27:07,784 --> 00:27:09,728
I was, I was verklempt.

539
00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:11,251
I I couldn't believe it.

540
00:27:11,251 --> 00:27:13,000
Um, yeah, that was, that was
cool.

541
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,025
Uh, what else have I been up to
?

542
00:27:15,025 --> 00:27:19,520
I last night I watched, or I
re-watched, uh, howl's moving

543
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,906
castle, which is a hayao
miyazaki movie.

544
00:27:22,906 --> 00:27:24,829
I forgot how beautiful that
movie is.

545
00:27:24,829 --> 00:27:27,494
It's just like every shot is
gorgeous.

546
00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:29,767
Speaker 2: It's been a while
since I've seen that one.

547
00:27:30,260 --> 00:27:32,970
Speaker 1: I think while it's
not my favorite of his movies,

548
00:27:34,162 --> 00:27:38,211
it is probably the height of his
craft.

549
00:27:38,211 --> 00:27:44,903
Like, if you rank them by
visual output, I think that is

550
00:27:44,962 --> 00:27:47,790
probably the most striking of of
his movies.

551
00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:52,048
Working on my timelines you
know how it is I'm almost

552
00:27:52,148 --> 00:27:55,541
through the era of kurok, about
to start kiyoshi.

553
00:27:55,541 --> 00:27:56,846
In my timeline script.

554
00:27:56,846 --> 00:27:59,757
I'm like 17 000 words into my
script.

555
00:27:59,757 --> 00:28:00,980
It's gonna be a multi-hour
video.

556
00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:03,904
At this point I've just kind of
resigned myself to that fact.

557
00:28:03,904 --> 00:28:07,830
But I'm really excited about my
avatar timeline um, and I've

558
00:28:08,011 --> 00:28:10,981
like really been like kicking
myself in the butt for not like

559
00:28:11,182 --> 00:28:11,925
working on it harder.

560
00:28:11,925 --> 00:28:16,079
So I I've the past couple, the
past week or so, I've written

561
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,523
like 2 000 words into it.

562
00:28:17,523 --> 00:28:19,750
So I'm, I'm, I am moving, I'm
moving.

563
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:20,011
Guys.

564
00:28:20,011 --> 00:28:22,740
Did anyone see the new marvel
movie?

565
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,204
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I saw
thunderbolts.

566
00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:27,384
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention
that uh, I have not seen it, but

567
00:28:27,384 --> 00:28:28,866
no, I haven't seen it yet.

568
00:28:29,106 --> 00:28:33,242
Speaker 2: You know, I'm, I'm,
I'm half, I'm half, you know, on

569
00:28:33,242 --> 00:28:33,625
the fence.

570
00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:35,515
So you know, should I watch it
in 40x?

571
00:28:35,515 --> 00:28:40,505
No, I'm just kidding, um, I
don't know.

572
00:28:40,505 --> 00:28:44,890
I'm still like I'm not sure,
sure if I may go and see it or I

573
00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:47,012
may wait until it streams.

574
00:28:47,012 --> 00:28:47,673
I'm not too sure.

575
00:28:47,673 --> 00:28:49,015
Rich, tell us your thoughts.

576
00:28:49,075 --> 00:28:50,215
Speaker 3: I thought it was
really fun.

577
00:28:50,215 --> 00:28:55,823
I thought that, you know, I
don't know, I mean I'm not going

578
00:28:55,823 --> 00:28:58,151
to say it's exactly like
Guardians or anything like that.

579
00:28:58,151 --> 00:29:03,330
I mean it does have some
similar kind of overtones of,

580
00:29:03,952 --> 00:29:09,726
you know, being a team and like
that team being a family.

581
00:29:09,726 --> 00:29:11,854
But you know, I don't think
that's got to be particular just

582
00:29:11,854 --> 00:29:12,115
to marvel.

583
00:29:12,115 --> 00:29:14,844
I just think that it's
something that tends to work

584
00:29:14,943 --> 00:29:15,645
really well.

585
00:29:15,645 --> 00:29:21,298
I think it's a formula of
flawed characters coming

586
00:29:21,358 --> 00:29:27,592
together and, in their unity, no
longer being flawed, you know,

587
00:29:27,852 --> 00:29:30,344
or realizing that they were
never flawed to begin with.

588
00:29:30,423 --> 00:29:33,392
Type of story interesting, okay,
you know, that's just the,

589
00:29:33,861 --> 00:29:38,054
that's just an easy, that's just
a good story to tell, you know

590
00:29:38,114 --> 00:29:40,480
in general, I think and it's
people will connect.

591
00:29:40,662 --> 00:29:41,884
Yeah, people connect with it.

592
00:29:41,884 --> 00:29:46,317
There's you immediately allow
for somebody to be

593
00:29:46,397 --> 00:29:48,883
self-deprecating, or many
characters to be

594
00:29:48,942 --> 00:29:50,246
self-deprecating, you know.

595
00:29:50,246 --> 00:29:54,342
So I I actually I think it's I
mean like I thought it was funny

596
00:29:54,342 --> 00:29:54,342
.

597
00:29:54,342 --> 00:29:59,596
I thought there were moments
that were uh like emotionally uh

598
00:29:59,596 --> 00:30:01,039
gripping.

599
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,910
I mean I'm not gonna say it was
the most you know emotionally

600
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:07,185
gripping movie I've ever watched
in my entire life, but there

601
00:30:07,205 --> 00:30:10,720
were some moments where, you
know, I I definitely felt for

602
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,510
the characters, but top to I
mean I really enjoyed it.

603
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:19,221
I I also I mean I've kind of
said this before I I tend to go

604
00:30:19,303 --> 00:30:22,788
to these things with the
intention of enjoying it.

605
00:30:22,788 --> 00:30:25,393
Right, like I'm excited, I'm
like, yay, I get to see these

606
00:30:25,493 --> 00:30:26,540
things on screen.

607
00:30:26,821 --> 00:30:30,789
Uh, I right yeah I, you know all
, I think, all of us really you

608
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,173
go in super optimistic.

609
00:30:32,173 --> 00:30:36,511
Yeah, I mean, all of us grew up
reading this stuff right, and

610
00:30:37,053 --> 00:30:40,623
really there was nothing ever
around other than like for me I

611
00:30:40,663 --> 00:30:44,230
remember at first was watching
the superman movies on channel

612
00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:48,144
11 on in new york when they came
on and that's all there really

613
00:30:48,223 --> 00:30:48,545
was.

614
00:30:48,545 --> 00:30:52,492
So I just love seeing it on the
big screen, I just love seeing

615
00:30:52,512 --> 00:30:58,090
it at all, and I like when
marvel takes a shot and or just

616
00:30:58,131 --> 00:31:01,383
gives us some of the characters
that are not the, you know, not

617
00:31:01,403 --> 00:31:03,626
the, not the ones that we always
see because someone's someone's

618
00:31:03,626 --> 00:31:03,626
.

619
00:31:03,626 --> 00:31:06,152
The ones that we always see
because someone's, the ones that

620
00:31:06,152 --> 00:31:07,233
are off the beaten path.

621
00:31:07,554 --> 00:31:10,244
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that
this is basically like

622
00:31:11,326 --> 00:31:13,551
Breakfast Club, but for
superheroes.

623
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:14,093
Speaker 3: Yeah.

624
00:31:14,093 --> 00:31:16,192
Yeah, that's actually really
apropos.

625
00:31:16,192 --> 00:31:18,244
I think that's perfect and it's
funny.

626
00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:22,500
Breakfast Club is I mean I
don't even know, I feel like

627
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,990
it's almost like cliche to say
it, but it's in my top five,

628
00:31:26,601 --> 00:31:29,773
like if you're taking out any
kind of science fiction or

629
00:31:30,415 --> 00:31:33,386
superhero stuff, right, you're
just like name your top three

630
00:31:33,406 --> 00:31:34,009
favorite movies.

631
00:31:34,009 --> 00:31:38,330
Breakfast Club is there Very
cool, good to know I love this

632
00:31:38,351 --> 00:31:38,570
movie.

633
00:31:38,819 --> 00:31:41,989
Speaker 1: I feel like we unlock
new rich lore every week, and I

634
00:31:41,989 --> 00:31:42,872
think that that's important.

635
00:31:44,741 --> 00:31:46,150
Speaker 2: You know rich lore
every week and I think that

636
00:31:46,211 --> 00:31:46,733
that's important.

637
00:31:46,733 --> 00:31:47,597
You know rich, rich lore is.

638
00:31:47,597 --> 00:31:49,663
You know a lot of the, the
listeners.

639
00:31:49,663 --> 00:31:50,906
They know about our lore.

640
00:31:50,906 --> 00:31:55,221
You know, and our lore goes
back you know many years, but

641
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:58,769
you know that they're trying to,
they have to catch up on the

642
00:31:58,829 --> 00:32:00,901
rich lore hey man, yeah I.

643
00:32:01,060 --> 00:32:02,644
Speaker 1: I don't even know
some of my lore sometimes.

644
00:32:02,644 --> 00:32:05,588
I didn't even know that I made
a podcast about Tales of the

645
00:32:05,648 --> 00:32:07,071
Empire until like 20 minutes ago
.

646
00:32:07,071 --> 00:32:08,934
I listened to that.

647
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:13,006
Speaker 3: I remember where I
was in my backyard while I was

648
00:32:13,066 --> 00:32:17,834
doing yard work this summer when
I listened to that episode.

649
00:32:18,013 --> 00:32:20,140
Speaker 1: That's incredible, I
mean.

650
00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:22,723
It is actually kind of cool
though, like when, when you

651
00:32:23,144 --> 00:32:26,407
listen to something, or you you
know experience something, your

652
00:32:26,488 --> 00:32:31,554
brain, um, you know kind of
marks where you were in your

653
00:32:31,634 --> 00:32:36,768
life with that media, and a lot
of times like I'll re-listen to

654
00:32:36,847 --> 00:32:39,820
audiobooks that I've listened to
like years ago and I'll be like

655
00:32:39,820 --> 00:32:43,588
, oh man, I remember being like
on this job site doing this

656
00:32:43,749 --> 00:32:46,761
electrical task that you know I
would have never thought of

657
00:32:46,821 --> 00:32:47,022
again.

658
00:32:47,323 --> 00:32:50,109
Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, isn't
that insane.

659
00:32:50,109 --> 00:32:51,913
I've had, yeah, there's.

660
00:32:51,913 --> 00:32:56,189
There's some like episodes of
uh, of like certain podcasts

661
00:32:56,209 --> 00:32:59,828
that like when I like I'll
scroll over it and be like, oh

662
00:32:59,888 --> 00:33:02,058
man, yeah, I remember when I
used to work at Publix.

663
00:33:02,058 --> 00:33:05,508
I would like listen to the, to
these episodes like episodes

664
00:33:05,528 --> 00:33:09,423
like when I was closing in like
the nighttime and Rich.

665
00:33:09,423 --> 00:33:13,411
For you who may not know what
Publix is oh, I know, publix,

666
00:33:13,431 --> 00:33:13,991
you know Publix.

667
00:33:14,452 --> 00:33:16,747
Speaker 3: Oh man, our family
vacations.

668
00:33:16,747 --> 00:33:20,926
We'd land in Miami Beach, we'd
go to 65th and Collins, check

669
00:33:20,946 --> 00:33:24,405
into the Bel Air Hotel, and then
the first thing was we had to

670
00:33:24,445 --> 00:33:28,746
go to publix, we had to go get
our food for, uh, for the two

671
00:33:28,766 --> 00:33:29,748
weeks they were staying there.

672
00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:33,282
Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you get
any of the you know pub subs?

673
00:33:33,282 --> 00:33:34,727
We got the pub subs.

674
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:36,250
Speaker 3: I mean, my
grandfather's favorite thing was

675
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:38,965
that there's cuban, fresh cuban
bread, like actually in the

676
00:33:39,006 --> 00:33:39,406
bakery.

677
00:33:39,606 --> 00:33:41,673
Speaker 1: So yeah, that you
know we would get that.

678
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,825
Speaker 3: I grew up on that win
dixie lifestyle oh, win dixie,

679
00:33:44,964 --> 00:33:48,150
that was a little bit, uh, a
little bit out of the miami

680
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,882
beach environs yeah, it was yeah
no, I, I'm I I lie.

681
00:33:53,123 --> 00:33:56,491
Speaker 2: I uh, I lived right
next to public, so I don't know

682
00:33:56,511 --> 00:34:00,363
what I was gonna say I think
like the closest, like when you

683
00:34:00,403 --> 00:34:03,412
were living down here, I think
think the closest Winn-Dixie

684
00:34:03,451 --> 00:34:06,200
would have been In Homestead,
yeah it would have been.

685
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,643
No, there was one in Cutler Bay
, but like it would have taken

686
00:34:10,684 --> 00:34:13,423
you like extra time to get there
, Like you might as well, have

687
00:34:13,523 --> 00:34:14,750
just gone to that Publix.

688
00:34:15,492 --> 00:34:15,632
Speaker 3: Yep.

689
00:34:15,974 --> 00:34:18,025
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right guys,
let's talk about Andor Season 2

690
00:34:18,025 --> 00:34:20,483
, because we got a lot to talk
about and we're like almost 40

691
00:34:20,523 --> 00:34:21,083
minutes into this.

692
00:34:21,385 --> 00:34:22,748
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm
gonna I.

693
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:26,601
Speaker 1: I forgot to crack
open this beer, so I'm gonna I'm

694
00:34:26,601 --> 00:34:30,208
gonna do that I thought you
were cracking open like a slim

695
00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:36,666
jim or something no, but this
does happen to be a juicy ipa oh

696
00:34:36,666 --> 00:34:43,074
, it's the sam adams new england
juicy ipa um, and I saw it in

697
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,666
the store and I was just like I
gotta grab it and it's actually

698
00:34:45,987 --> 00:34:48,632
pretty high alcohol content,
considering it's just like a Sam

699
00:34:48,632 --> 00:34:49,762
Adams like can of beer.

700
00:34:49,762 --> 00:34:53,130
It's seven, seven percent so
and it is actually juicy.

701
00:34:53,130 --> 00:34:55,536
It says it's tropical and
refreshing and I have to admit

702
00:34:55,657 --> 00:34:58,061
I'm not the biggest ipa fan.

703
00:34:58,061 --> 00:35:00,597
I like them there, I like the
occasional ipa.

704
00:35:00,597 --> 00:35:02,224
This is like a really
refreshing one.

705
00:35:02,465 --> 00:35:05,719
I'm not sponsored at all, I just
we love the word juicy here on

706
00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:06,362
this podcast.

707
00:35:06,362 --> 00:35:09,375
And the reason we love the word
juicy is because when you guys

708
00:35:09,534 --> 00:35:13,365
review our podcast with five
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709
00:35:13,405 --> 00:35:14,869
stars and uh, yeah.

710
00:35:14,869 --> 00:35:17,117
So wherever you're listening to
this, if you haven't already

711
00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:21,358
list or, you know, rated our
podcast and you want to get more

712
00:35:21,358 --> 00:35:25,072
people involved in, uh,
listening to the show so that we

713
00:35:25,072 --> 00:35:29,360
can grow as a podcast, please
be sure to leave us a review,

714
00:35:29,481 --> 00:35:33,637
specifically a juicy review, a
five-star review and yeah on

715
00:35:33,838 --> 00:35:38,056
with the show and yeah on with
the show.

716
00:35:38,117 --> 00:35:40,141
Speaker 3: Dude, Don't forget to
pick up a pack of Juicy Fruit.

717
00:35:40,141 --> 00:35:44,476
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718
00:35:44,496 --> 00:35:45,784
Speaker 2: I was going to say
was this episode being sponsored

719
00:35:45,784 --> 00:35:46,528
and I didn't know.

720
00:35:46,528 --> 00:35:49,916
Like you know, dakota's got
this juicy IPA.

721
00:35:49,916 --> 00:35:56,581
That just, I guess, goes well
with our plea for your guys to

722
00:35:56,780 --> 00:35:57,722
rate our podcast.

723
00:36:00,010 --> 00:36:02,277
Speaker 1: I cracked this open
and it's all over my computer

724
00:36:02,317 --> 00:36:03,800
screen.

725
00:36:04,382 --> 00:36:08,677
Speaker 2: Alrighty, yes, let's
hop into this second half of

726
00:36:10,461 --> 00:36:11,224
Andor season.

727
00:36:11,224 --> 00:36:12,795
I almost said Andor season two.

728
00:36:12,795 --> 00:36:15,119
I mean Andor season one.

729
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:21,009
Speaker 1: Alright, so we have
our boyian and or he's in hiding

730
00:36:21,009 --> 00:36:21,009
.

731
00:36:21,009 --> 00:36:25,623
Basically he's gone to, uh,
what's the planet called niamos?

732
00:36:25,623 --> 00:36:27,327
Yeah, the planet's called
niamos.

733
00:36:27,327 --> 00:36:31,293
It's basically like miami, but
like a whole planet of miami.

734
00:36:31,293 --> 00:36:38,443
Um, it's very laid-back, except
for those pesky Imperials that

735
00:36:38,704 --> 00:36:41,934
just they just happen to be
there and he happens to be there

736
00:36:41,934 --> 00:36:45,838
at the wrong time and they
catch him for something he is

737
00:36:45,918 --> 00:36:50,710
not even involved with and they
make up fake charges for him and

738
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:53,139
he's sentenced to six years in
jail.

739
00:36:53,139 --> 00:36:57,110
You know, I mean, he did
deserve let's put it clear he

740
00:36:57,211 --> 00:36:58,951
did break the law several times.

741
00:36:58,951 --> 00:37:03,099
You know he killed two of the
uh preox morlana people.

742
00:37:03,099 --> 00:37:08,195
He killed a couple more on
pharix when they attacked there

743
00:37:08,938 --> 00:37:14,389
and uh, then he, you know, stole
, like you know, 80 million

744
00:37:14,469 --> 00:37:17,222
credits or something from aldani
and he helped.

745
00:37:17,222 --> 00:37:18,407
He helped that that theft.

746
00:37:18,407 --> 00:37:22,277
So there was definitely stuff
to catch this guy, you know, on

747
00:37:22,478 --> 00:37:23,480
and like send up to jail.

748
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,554
But the charges they made up
were were made up, it was.

749
00:37:26,653 --> 00:37:29,681
Speaker 2: It was just so crazy
that, yeah, I was gonna say that

750
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:32,278
, like out of out of like
everything that they could have

751
00:37:32,318 --> 00:37:35,934
charged him for, they like made
up charges to throw him into

752
00:37:35,996 --> 00:37:36,318
jail.

753
00:37:36,318 --> 00:37:39,554
Had they got him for like the
actual stuff he did, he would

754
00:37:39,594 --> 00:37:41,001
have been in jail for like life.

755
00:37:41,001 --> 00:37:43,791
Oh yeah, no, actually they know
they would have executed him

756
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:47,202
actually they would have
executed him, maybe not so much

757
00:37:47,322 --> 00:37:51,353
for what happened on pharynx,
but definitely what happened on

758
00:37:51,614 --> 00:37:55,362
um aldani they would have just
like killed him for that or, or

759
00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:58,871
isb would have had that like him
interrogated with, like that,

760
00:37:59,132 --> 00:38:01,579
uh, that stuff that they were
interrogating vix with, which is

761
00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:03,193
like the such a.

762
00:38:03,213 --> 00:38:06,079
We'll talk about that later it's
like what is it like?

763
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:10,271
Speaker 1: just creepy vr yeah,
so it's actually really

764
00:38:10,351 --> 00:38:10,831
interesting.

765
00:38:10,831 --> 00:38:16,177
I guess the empire had to like
kill a population of sentient

766
00:38:16,197 --> 00:38:22,806
creatures that were supposedly
rebelling and their death cries

767
00:38:23,291 --> 00:38:26,722
are almost melodic, but in a way
that it's just like

768
00:38:26,961 --> 00:38:28,847
heartbreaking and like soul
rending.

769
00:38:28,847 --> 00:38:33,213
Yeah, that, the idea that like
it's like children die, like

770
00:38:33,375 --> 00:38:37,659
listening to the deaths of
children, like while they're

771
00:38:37,699 --> 00:38:42,065
singing, is such a creepy
torture tactic.

772
00:38:42,646 --> 00:38:46,550
It's, it's super like Nazi-esque
, you know, like you think of

773
00:38:46,610 --> 00:38:51,231
all the crazy experiments that
they were, you know doing to

774
00:38:51,271 --> 00:38:56,452
people in some of the
concentration camps and a lot of

775
00:38:56,452 --> 00:39:00,831
times in Star star wars the
empire is visualized as the

776
00:39:00,871 --> 00:39:02,635
nazis, you know, like they have
that.

777
00:39:02,635 --> 00:39:05,762
Look the, the uniform, the, the
marches and stuff.

778
00:39:06,123 --> 00:39:06,304
Speaker 2: Right.

779
00:39:06,304 --> 00:39:07,974
Right, they were definitely.

780
00:39:07,974 --> 00:39:09,880
The empire was definitely
inspired.

781
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,972
I mean, you got stormtroopers
which were like literal, they

782
00:39:14,032 --> 00:39:18,442
literally existed within the,
the ranks of the nazi yes, the,

783
00:39:18,501 --> 00:39:21,092
the literal term uh is
stormtrooper.

784
00:39:21,112 --> 00:39:25,981
Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes from,
uh, the nazi party, but um, yeah

785
00:39:25,981 --> 00:39:31,016
, so he gets sent to narkina 5,
which is a crazy concept for a

786
00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:34,931
prison yeah, maybe think of like
the raft, but instead of in the

787
00:39:34,931 --> 00:39:38,260
water, they're above the water
yeah, what did you think of the

788
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:38,541
the raft?

789
00:39:38,541 --> 00:39:40,086
But instead of in the water,
they're above the water.

790
00:39:40,086 --> 00:39:40,989
Yeah, what did you think of the
prison Rich?

791
00:39:41,650 --> 00:39:42,534
Speaker 3: I like the prison a
lot.

792
00:39:42,594 --> 00:39:47,271
I won't lie the way he gets
caught, I'm a tourist, I just

793
00:39:47,711 --> 00:39:50,739
it's just, it was so.

794
00:39:50,739 --> 00:39:54,235
I guess, tropey, I don't know,
maybe it's because it wasn't

795
00:39:54,275 --> 00:39:57,643
enough time, like it was just so
quick, like he was, you know,

796
00:39:58,469 --> 00:40:02,682
and it was obviously because, I
mean, he, it's just so fast.

797
00:40:02,682 --> 00:40:05,411
They might as well just done in
a montage, just made like an

798
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:09,320
80s style movie montage, where
like bix is like basically like

799
00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:12,273
well, you know, like no, we
can't do that, you can't, that,

800
00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:13,916
just that just won't work, you
know.

801
00:40:13,916 --> 00:40:18,853
And then he, he runs off and
starts to be wanton and then,

802
00:40:19,358 --> 00:40:21,860
you know, some crazy party
music's playing and then he gets

803
00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:25,831
taken down because it was just
a little too quick for me and,

804
00:40:26,393 --> 00:40:29,753
and obviously, you know, just so
rife with, you know, the.

805
00:40:29,753 --> 00:40:32,514
The world is such a bad place
or the universe is such a bad

806
00:40:32,556 --> 00:40:36,297
place, the galaxy is such a bad
place that you know, know, you

807
00:40:36,438 --> 00:40:39,913
do real crimes and you don't get
caught for it, but it's so

808
00:40:39,992 --> 00:40:43,440
corrupt that you can get swept
up by the law for no reason.

809
00:40:43,701 --> 00:40:46,112
Speaker 1: And, uh, that part
was just a little, it was

810
00:40:46,172 --> 00:40:50,201
heavy-handed because it was
quick and okay yeah, I do like

811
00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:54,056
the idea that the empire doesn't
know that they have cassian

812
00:40:54,096 --> 00:40:54,818
andor in custody.

813
00:40:54,818 --> 00:40:56,121
They're looking for this guy.

814
00:40:56,121 --> 00:40:58,855
Oh yeah, no, and he's in prison
but, like I would have liked,

815
00:40:59,215 --> 00:40:59,356
what?

816
00:40:59,396 --> 00:41:01,159
Speaker 3: if he's there, why
isn't he there for?

817
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,889
Look, he's there for a week.

818
00:41:02,889 --> 00:41:06,358
He's not just like hooking up
with some lady friend and like

819
00:41:06,438 --> 00:41:10,255
possibly getting like high or
drunk or whatever right you're

820
00:41:10,295 --> 00:41:10,596
asking me.

821
00:41:10,655 --> 00:41:13,262
Speaker 2: I don't know well,
well, I mean, the thing is, is

822
00:41:13,282 --> 00:41:14,030
that they're not.

823
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:19,503
They're not gonna add, add
unnecessary scenes to the show.

824
00:41:19,503 --> 00:41:24,818
Obviously, this show is not the
show that.

825
00:41:24,818 --> 00:41:28,003
If you want a show that has
some sort of filler in it, this

826
00:41:28,063 --> 00:41:28,804
is not that show.

827
00:41:28,804 --> 00:41:31,894
This is just not going to be
that show.

828
00:41:31,894 --> 00:41:38,867
Like um, you know the way that
they like span time, you know I

829
00:41:38,887 --> 00:41:42,713
mean you could make that same
argument for what?

830
00:41:42,713 --> 00:41:45,119
What was going down on aldani.

831
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:47,943
You know, the man got there and
then, like you know, just

832
00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:51,297
instantly, like now, he's just
like storming, you know,

833
00:41:51,336 --> 00:41:55,192
storming that dam well, I mean
more like the idea that I guess.

834
00:41:55,251 --> 00:41:57,014
Speaker 3: I guess what I didn't
like about it was the

835
00:41:57,094 --> 00:42:02,362
association that he was because
he wasn't staying and he was

836
00:42:02,403 --> 00:42:05,934
kind of running away Right, that
he kind of got punished for

837
00:42:06,076 --> 00:42:09,402
running away and you know, like
trying to kind of live his best

838
00:42:09,463 --> 00:42:09,643
life.

839
00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:11,532
Speaker 2: But that that was the
point though.

840
00:42:11,532 --> 00:42:16,740
That that's, that was the point
, that literally the the point

841
00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:17,983
of the whole show.

842
00:42:17,983 --> 00:42:22,760
It's all the culmination of
stuff like that, and it shows at

843
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,693
the end of the season and the
end of the season, so so in that

844
00:42:26,693 --> 00:42:30,581
very moment, it's showing how
corrupt the empire is and

845
00:42:30,621 --> 00:42:33,112
they're just like trying, like
they're trying to grab like

846
00:42:33,213 --> 00:42:38,282
anybody that looks like I mean
to be, to be, I mean, if you

847
00:42:38,302 --> 00:42:41,237
want to be candid, like he was
looking a little suspicious.

848
00:42:41,237 --> 00:42:42,804
He was looking over his
shoulder.

849
00:42:42,804 --> 00:42:44,592
I mean, he wasn't doing
anything wrong.

850
00:42:44,592 --> 00:42:48,646
Looking suspicious, you know,
might not be bad, but he was

851
00:42:48,686 --> 00:42:49,869
kind of looking over his
shoulder.

852
00:42:49,869 --> 00:42:52,496
You know, especially with those
guys kind of like running

853
00:42:52,516 --> 00:42:52,876
around.

854
00:42:52,876 --> 00:42:56,172
So I mean, you, you could make
that argument like, okay, maybe

855
00:42:56,233 --> 00:42:58,597
he was a part of them because
he's looking kind of you know

856
00:42:58,637 --> 00:42:59,278
these guys are running.

857
00:42:59,318 --> 00:43:00,442
Speaker 3: You know what I'm
looking like.

858
00:43:00,442 --> 00:43:02,411
I think I left that part.

859
00:43:02,532 --> 00:43:06,059
Speaker 2: Okay, that so so,
yeah, like you know, and even

860
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,373
even like the stormtrooper was
like you know, like what are you

861
00:43:10,373 --> 00:43:10,675
doing?

862
00:43:10,675 --> 00:43:11,195
Like why?

863
00:43:11,195 --> 00:43:13,442
Why are you looking like over
your shoulder, like that?

864
00:43:13,442 --> 00:43:15,773
Why are you looking so
suspicious like are you running

865
00:43:15,813 --> 00:43:17,918
with them and so like?

866
00:43:17,918 --> 00:43:21,726
But yeah, so like it was that
instance, like the fact that he

867
00:43:21,766 --> 00:43:26,460
got caught and then he got just
thrown into prison for six years

868
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:29,630
for something that he didn't do
, that is just showing the

869
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:32,115
corruption of the empire.

870
00:43:32,115 --> 00:43:35,643
All of what happens, like
especially you, especially from

871
00:43:35,663 --> 00:43:39,590
the beginning of the season to
the end of the season, it's just

872
00:43:39,590 --> 00:43:45,862
showing, it's like peeling off
layers of what the Empire really

873
00:43:45,862 --> 00:43:51,302
is and it's showing how bad
they really are.

874
00:43:51,302 --> 00:43:54,398
And this is just one facet of
that.

875
00:43:55,090 --> 00:43:56,512
Speaker 1: I really like this
prison arc.

876
00:43:56,693 --> 00:43:57,152
Speaker 2: I do too.

877
00:43:57,172 --> 00:43:57,934
Speaker 1: this is just one
facet of that.

878
00:43:57,934 --> 00:43:58,614
I really like this prison art.

879
00:43:58,614 --> 00:43:59,717
I do too, I as an electrician.

880
00:43:59,717 --> 00:44:04,963
I really like the concept of
just using electricity as your

881
00:44:05,023 --> 00:44:08,172
motivating factor, you know, to,
you know, for for the prisoners

882
00:44:08,172 --> 00:44:09,518
to like stay on top of things.

883
00:44:09,518 --> 00:44:14,001
It's a very clean aesthetic
throughout the, the entire

884
00:44:14,041 --> 00:44:15,715
prison arc, like it's a very,
almost sterile you know it arc.

885
00:44:15,715 --> 00:44:17,967
Like it's a very, um, almost
sterile, you know it's.

886
00:44:17,967 --> 00:44:20,635
It's obviously cruel, like
everything that they're doing is

887
00:44:20,635 --> 00:44:24,309
very cruel, especially the fact
that, like the, the team that

888
00:44:24,349 --> 00:44:29,139
performs worst gets, you know,
gets zapped, while the other

889
00:44:29,181 --> 00:44:29,842
teams get to eat.

890
00:44:29,842 --> 00:44:32,998
That's that's crazy, you know
that's that's uh, it's actually

891
00:44:33,018 --> 00:44:36,331
like extremely cruel and, like
the best table, gets flavor in

892
00:44:36,351 --> 00:44:39,637
their food oh, and they're in
their slop.

893
00:44:39,898 --> 00:44:43,023
Speaker 2: It's not even food,
it's literally slop a little bit

894
00:44:43,023 --> 00:44:49,474
of salt, please, please um,
just bland slop it's that.

895
00:44:49,574 --> 00:44:53,637
Speaker 3: It's the blue milk
from octu it's the oof the blue

896
00:44:53,697 --> 00:44:56,179
milk that's like three months
old.

897
00:44:58,219 --> 00:45:01,963
Speaker 1: What do you guys
think about how this arc

898
00:45:02,043 --> 00:45:04,344
progresses from beginning to end
?

899
00:45:04,344 --> 00:45:08,146
So we have Cassian taken in to
this prison.

900
00:45:08,146 --> 00:45:17,032
We have him start to like the
moment he gets in.

901
00:45:17,032 --> 00:45:18,938
Actually, he's like looking and
he's counting the guards's,

902
00:45:18,958 --> 00:45:19,619
seeing what he's up against.

903
00:45:19,619 --> 00:45:21,885
He's he's actually a very like
tactical person.

904
00:45:22,606 --> 00:45:25,815
Um, and I don't think he was
like maybe he was formally

905
00:45:25,856 --> 00:45:29,527
trained by marva and uh, his,
his father, his adoptive father,

906
00:45:29,527 --> 00:45:32,070
but we don't really know what
his training is.

907
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:36,914
He just happens to have that
mentality of like I got to get

908
00:45:36,954 --> 00:45:38,856
out of this, you know, and he's
going to find a way.

909
00:45:39,376 --> 00:45:44,539
And he takes that knowledge and
as they learn more about what's

910
00:45:44,579 --> 00:45:47,820
happening in other sections of
the prison, they start to form a

911
00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:54,786
plan of like escape and it's,
it's such a exhilarating arc,

912
00:45:54,865 --> 00:45:58,648
you know, like the by the the
end you're so pumped up with

913
00:45:58,708 --> 00:46:03,996
adrenaline because you have seen
like these people you know

914
00:46:04,416 --> 00:46:08,510
beaten and oppressed, and a lot
of them, it seems, aren't even

915
00:46:08,570 --> 00:46:12,103
in there for reasons that they
are deserving to be in prison

916
00:46:12,222 --> 00:46:15,211
for you know like, and yeah,
they made up charges for him,

917
00:46:15,411 --> 00:46:15,893
you know like.

918
00:46:15,893 --> 00:46:18,878
So I'm assuming the other
people aren't.

919
00:46:18,878 --> 00:46:21,764
I mean, maybe maybe some of
them were criminals or whatever,

920
00:46:21,764 --> 00:46:27,737
but to be treated in that way
is inhumane, even if it looked

921
00:46:27,777 --> 00:46:28,940
really clean and sterile, you
know.

922
00:46:29,621 --> 00:46:32,414
Speaker 2: And and like the fact
that, like, I guess, like one

923
00:46:32,454 --> 00:46:35,141
of the things that like really
like started that off was the

924
00:46:35,221 --> 00:46:38,552
fact that a guy that was
supposed to be like transferred

925
00:46:38,572 --> 00:46:42,300
to that prison just got
transferred to another floor oh

926
00:46:42,340 --> 00:46:44,951
man yeah, that's poor.

927
00:46:45,411 --> 00:46:47,878
Speaker 1: I actually feel bad
for keno because he's a believer

928
00:46:47,878 --> 00:46:47,878
.

929
00:46:47,878 --> 00:46:49,971
You know, like he's a believer
in the system.

930
00:46:49,971 --> 00:46:53,458
Whether he actually did
anything wrong in his past life

931
00:46:53,498 --> 00:46:57,217
to get him into prison or not,
he realizes or he believes

932
00:46:57,659 --> 00:46:58,221
through and through.

933
00:46:58,221 --> 00:47:02,358
Keno lois, um, the character
played by andy circus fantastic

934
00:47:02,378 --> 00:47:05,673
job by him, by the way um, but
yeah, he, he believes

935
00:47:06,054 --> 00:47:09,485
wholeheartedly that if he does
the right thing, if he leads his

936
00:47:09,485 --> 00:47:15,315
team to producing the most uh,
whatever the item is we find out

937
00:47:15,315 --> 00:47:18,239
later in the season in like an
after the credits thing, like

938
00:47:18,318 --> 00:47:21,523
what those items that they're
building are, but we, he

939
00:47:21,563 --> 00:47:25,476
believes that by doing so, he
will, you know, get out uh and

940
00:47:25,496 --> 00:47:27,242
just be, be out in the real
world.

941
00:47:27,242 --> 00:47:29,710
Finally, he's got like 200
something days left.

942
00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:33,619
That all comes crashing down
when he finds out that, because

943
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,976
of some new mandate by the
empire, they're not letting

944
00:47:37,016 --> 00:47:42,735
anyone out, they're just sending
them right back to other floors

945
00:47:42,735 --> 00:47:45,282
so that they can just keep this
machine churning.

946
00:47:45,282 --> 00:47:50,894
It's really psychologically
crazy and that's his breaking

947
00:47:50,954 --> 00:47:51,155
point.

948
00:47:51,155 --> 00:47:55,862
Prior to this point, we have
Andor asking him how many guards

949
00:47:55,862 --> 00:47:58,190
per floor and he doesn't say
anything.

950
00:47:58,190 --> 00:48:01,137
You know he's he's very like no
, we, we're not doing this,

951
00:48:01,157 --> 00:48:04,072
we're not doing this and then,
as soon as he finds out that

952
00:48:04,273 --> 00:48:06,623
they're not planning on
releasing anyone and he's so

953
00:48:06,684 --> 00:48:09,773
close to being released he's got
less than a year left that's

954
00:48:09,813 --> 00:48:10,876
his breaking point, you know.

955
00:48:10,936 --> 00:48:14,695
He's that that up the the way
that one episode ends where he's

956
00:48:14,695 --> 00:48:16,182
just like never more than 12.

957
00:48:16,182 --> 00:48:19,472
I remember watching that live.

958
00:48:19,472 --> 00:48:24,061
Uh, like the the day that that
and or episode came out and that

959
00:48:24,061 --> 00:48:27,235
was like the big thing on
twitter that week is like never

960
00:48:27,295 --> 00:48:27,918
more than 12.

961
00:48:27,918 --> 00:48:31,251
It's just such a powerful,
succinct line that just like

962
00:48:31,632 --> 00:48:34,059
it's like a calling card, like
yeah, we're, we're all watching

963
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,606
and or we all know what this
means it's, it's epic that and

964
00:48:37,686 --> 00:48:41,860
then, like the following week,
you got one way out dude, it

965
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:45,630
doesn't get better, yeah, yeah
seriously, man, that that, that

966
00:48:45,690 --> 00:48:50,298
monologue was just, it was just,
it was so strong and dude which

967
00:48:50,298 --> 00:48:50,378
one?

968
00:48:50,398 --> 00:48:55,074
Speaker 2: I don't remember oh,
you're talking about.

969
00:48:55,074 --> 00:48:56,978
Yeah, you know the know the
monologue about.

970
00:48:56,978 --> 00:48:57,739
You know just.

971
00:48:58,300 --> 00:48:59,364
Speaker 1: About the podcast.

972
00:48:59,831 --> 00:49:02,858
Speaker 2: How the algorithm is,
you know, trying to oppress us

973
00:49:02,978 --> 00:49:04,141
and you know push us down.

974
00:49:05,532 --> 00:49:07,952
Speaker 1: Oh, they're keeping
our podcast down that there's

975
00:49:07,992 --> 00:49:09,376
only one way out, you know.

976
00:49:09,376 --> 00:49:10,699
And there's three of us.

977
00:49:17,277 --> 00:49:20,224
Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely,
you know, hearing that, that

978
00:49:20,304 --> 00:49:24,313
monologue and like it it got you
pumped up, man, like you know,

979
00:49:24,373 --> 00:49:27,081
as the viewer you're like, yeah,
man, like you know, I kind of

980
00:49:27,110 --> 00:49:31,898
want to break out with them, you
know, but it was, it was crazy

981
00:49:31,978 --> 00:49:36,657
and like at the end it really
did show that like andy circus

982
00:49:36,878 --> 00:49:39,992
did like care about these people
because he literally did this

983
00:49:40,032 --> 00:49:44,521
whole breakout thing and like he
got stuck, he couldn't swim oh,

984
00:49:44,521 --> 00:49:45,710
it's the worst.

985
00:49:45,751 --> 00:49:47,554
Speaker 3: It's like it's it,
had it.

986
00:49:47,554 --> 00:49:51,003
It gave me flashback to titanic
, though, where I'm like jack.

987
00:49:51,003 --> 00:49:53,173
Jack could have probably stayed
on that, that piece of wood

988
00:49:53,193 --> 00:49:57,474
with you, and I just feel like
enough guys care about him that

989
00:49:57,855 --> 00:50:01,215
you know they could have formed
like a swim I was thinking that

990
00:50:01,257 --> 00:50:01,536
too.

991
00:50:02,278 --> 00:50:05,914
I don't understand why, like
there was no attempt, like I

992
00:50:05,954 --> 00:50:09,367
don't, he's not, it's not, it's
not lava, like like he's not

993
00:50:09,407 --> 00:50:13,278
going to die the minute he hits
the water right, and and he had

994
00:50:13,378 --> 00:50:17,190
men who cared about him, and now
he he inspired the entire group

995
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:17,532
out.

996
00:50:17,532 --> 00:50:19,800
Uh, I mean, they're there.

997
00:50:19,989 --> 00:50:20,934
Speaker 1: It's, you know it's
it's.

998
00:50:20,934 --> 00:50:23,612
It's an interesting thing you
bring that up because in the

999
00:50:23,771 --> 00:50:30,177
next episode, after they break
out, we have Cassian and one of

1000
00:50:30,677 --> 00:50:36,284
the prisoners, melchi, you know,
trying to make it out alive

1001
00:50:36,523 --> 00:50:39,347
before you know like the
empire's like finds them

1002
00:50:39,489 --> 00:50:40,813
basically um.

1003
00:50:40,813 --> 00:50:46,204
So we don't actually know how
many people realistically a made

1004
00:50:46,204 --> 00:50:50,480
it to shore, b um, got got to
where they needed to be safely

1005
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:55,952
and and c escaped the planet um,
and I think the, the consensus

1006
00:50:56,032 --> 00:50:59,318
or what we're supposed to take
from that is it was extremely

1007
00:50:59,438 --> 00:51:03,905
difficult after getting out of
the prison to also stay alive,

1008
00:51:04,291 --> 00:51:08,670
because it's not like they all
grouped up together, they all

1009
00:51:08,731 --> 00:51:09,253
separated.

1010
00:51:09,634 --> 00:51:14,726
I guess, for the sake of
remaining undercover while the

1011
00:51:14,786 --> 00:51:17,753
Empire was looking for everybody
, the strength in numbers would

1012
00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:18,956
only go so far there.

1013
00:51:18,956 --> 00:51:22,282
I don't know, I, I don't know,
I, I don't know how, um, you

1014
00:51:22,302 --> 00:51:23,592
know, we're really supposed to
take that like.

1015
00:51:23,592 --> 00:51:25,416
Would he have made it even if
he did, joe?

1016
00:51:26,018 --> 00:51:29,552
Speaker 2: yeah, that, that's
food for thought bland bland

1017
00:51:29,672 --> 00:51:35,422
food for slot I won't, I won't,
I won't lie like I.

1018
00:51:36,402 --> 00:51:39,353
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this
is direct, but I get a little

1019
00:51:39,393 --> 00:51:45,452
bit of Luke, not complete Luke
vibes right, but just like If R2

1020
00:51:45,452 --> 00:51:50,536
doesn't leave the Lars
homestead, luke is dead right.

1021
00:51:50,536 --> 00:51:56,476
It's like these small moments
of happenstance that continually

1022
00:51:56,476 --> 00:52:07,222
happen to him and I wonder if
we're learning that and or his I

1023
00:52:07,222 --> 00:52:10,108
don't know like does he have
like like like extra like?

1024
00:52:10,108 --> 00:52:12,454
It's almost like he's like
domino with like extra luck, you

1025
00:52:12,454 --> 00:52:12,996
know like what?

1026
00:52:12,996 --> 00:52:16,414
Did he have to be where he had
to be so that like this, would

1027
00:52:16,514 --> 00:52:17,659
you know, happen that way?

1028
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,038
Speaker 1: I it's very
interesting, uh, that you

1029
00:52:21,057 --> 00:52:25,510
mentioned that after this week's
episodes, um, the, the episodes

1030
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:28,996
that came out this week that
anthony has not watched yet.

1031
00:52:28,996 --> 00:52:35,914
Without spoiling anything, it
does, like the episodes do touch

1032
00:52:35,914 --> 00:52:42,711
on the fact that Andor is
always where he needs to be and

1033
00:52:43,172 --> 00:52:44,956
we don't know why.

1034
00:52:44,956 --> 00:52:50,231
He, in a cosmic sense, is
always where he needs to be and

1035
00:52:50,391 --> 00:52:54,402
always relaying messages to
people who need to hear them.

1036
00:52:54,402 --> 00:52:58,371
But you know, in the case of
this episode, you know, like, uh

1037
00:52:58,371 --> 00:53:02,423
, the, the case of them in in
Narcino five's prison, we know

1038
00:53:02,483 --> 00:53:07,438
that he was a catalyst, he was
the voice that needed to relay

1039
00:53:07,478 --> 00:53:12,951
the message, basically, not only
to, um, you know, get Kino on

1040
00:53:13,012 --> 00:53:16,117
board, to, like, you know, be
the catalyst that gets the, that

1041
00:53:16,117 --> 00:53:19,563
gets the, the guy who speaks
for everybody, on board.

1042
00:53:19,563 --> 00:53:23,778
But after the fact, you know,
like when, when they're back on

1043
00:53:23,818 --> 00:53:27,213
niamos in the next episode with,
uh, you know, him and melchi.

1044
00:53:27,253 --> 00:53:30,726
Melchi says um, you need to tell
people about this.

1045
00:53:30,726 --> 00:53:31,971
We need to tell people about
this.

1046
00:53:31,971 --> 00:53:33,534
You know like they're he's.

1047
00:53:33,534 --> 00:53:35,476
He's cassian's a messenger.

1048
00:53:35,476 --> 00:53:39,164
We don't really, um, and I
guess even throughout, like

1049
00:53:40,012 --> 00:53:42,938
rogue one, he is a messenger.

1050
00:53:42,938 --> 00:53:47,907
He needs to get the, the
message of the death star plans

1051
00:53:48,188 --> 00:53:49,190
to the rebel alliance.

1052
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:52,539
You know, like that's something
that's in his future, um, so

1053
00:53:52,579 --> 00:53:54,512
it's interesting that they're
writing him this way and it's an

1054
00:53:54,512 --> 00:53:57,617
interesting question, like,
like, does he like?

1055
00:53:57,617 --> 00:53:58,858
Is there a greater purpose to?

1056
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,364
Speaker 3: him, and I don't mean
that I think he's, by any

1057
00:54:01,623 --> 00:54:03,773
stretch of the imagination, a
jedi right.

1058
00:54:03,773 --> 00:54:09,063
No, yeah in a world where it
does seem that the force has its

1059
00:54:09,063 --> 00:54:14,177
will, right, is he almost an
instrument of that will who's

1060
00:54:14,297 --> 00:54:16,521
not a user himself?

1061
00:54:16,942 --> 00:54:24,204
Speaker 1: you know well I'm
gonna forego this question for

1062
00:54:24,244 --> 00:54:26,409
now, because I have strong
thoughts on it and it's very

1063
00:54:26,489 --> 00:54:31,983
spoilery okay, so um yes, let's
talk about the.

1064
00:54:31,983 --> 00:54:33,387
It is a really good question.

1065
00:54:33,407 --> 00:54:35,610
Speaker 3: Rich um I just
because I almost think he's

1066
00:54:35,652 --> 00:54:37,695
almost like a han figure right
in that.

1067
00:54:37,695 --> 00:54:42,782
Like han was never for
sensitive, right, he's not he.

1068
00:54:42,782 --> 00:54:45,873
He couldn't control the force
in any way, but it seemed like

1069
00:54:45,913 --> 00:54:52,123
the force had a plan for han and
he played pivotal roles in the

1070
00:54:52,264 --> 00:54:57,521
lives of people who were force
users, almost maybe grounding

1071
00:54:57,581 --> 00:55:00,199
them, but also being in the
right place at the right time.

1072
00:55:00,710 --> 00:55:02,074
Speaker 1: Well, it is
interesting that the show is

1073
00:55:02,114 --> 00:55:05,909
called Andor and so much of the
show is focused on other people

1074
00:55:06,010 --> 00:55:12,039
and other people's plights, and
he always just happens to be

1075
00:55:12,179 --> 00:55:12,400
there.

1076
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,898
He always happens to be there
at the right time.

1077
00:55:14,898 --> 00:55:19,634
So I do think you're onto
something with, uh, the force

1078
00:55:20,655 --> 00:55:25,025
fading him to be where he's
needed yeah, definitely, yeah,

1079
00:55:25,085 --> 00:55:25,748
no, I agree.

1080
00:55:26,289 --> 00:55:30,655
Speaker 2: I also like it's
showing how he's definitely like

1081
00:55:30,655 --> 00:55:36,202
a part of that spearhead for
the at least the initial rise of

1082
00:55:36,202 --> 00:55:37,123
the rebellion.

1083
00:55:37,123 --> 00:55:43,333
What I mean we also briefly
spoke about him showing up, but

1084
00:55:43,695 --> 00:55:48,362
I mean that in this second half
we all we get, uh, saw guerrera

1085
00:55:48,423 --> 00:55:52,253
again and like it's cool that we
get force whittaker reprising

1086
00:55:52,293 --> 00:55:56,460
that role also yeah, uh what a
fantastic actor.

1087
00:55:56,820 --> 00:55:58,702
Speaker 1: He with saw guerrera.

1088
00:55:58,702 --> 00:56:01,972
It's nothing like the character
from clone wars.

1089
00:56:01,972 --> 00:56:04,442
You know like we know that saw,
guerrera is a clone wars

1090
00:56:04,461 --> 00:56:04,842
character.

1091
00:56:04,842 --> 00:56:08,574
So, uh, forrest whitaker, he
just made that character his own

1092
00:56:08,574 --> 00:56:13,849
and he, he did his own thing
with him and, um, I love every

1093
00:56:13,889 --> 00:56:15,632
second of him on screen because
he's just nuts.

1094
00:56:15,632 --> 00:56:17,036
He's just absolutely insane.

1095
00:56:17,036 --> 00:56:17,878
Like what do you call it?

1096
00:56:17,878 --> 00:56:18,458
Nose.

1097
00:56:19,862 --> 00:56:23,697
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's so
cool because I liked him a lot

1098
00:56:23,757 --> 00:56:24,400
in Rogue One.

1099
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,958
So the fact that like he's in
this show, it really is fitting,

1100
00:56:28,958 --> 00:56:32,552
because you know he had like a
I mean, he wasn't in the

1101
00:56:32,592 --> 00:56:37,039
entirety of Rogue One, but he
was a really strong character in

1102
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:42,112
that so like getting him in
this, in like his initial I

1103
00:56:42,132 --> 00:56:49,403
guess like rebellion sect day
days it's it's really cool and I

1104
00:56:49,403 --> 00:56:52,637
think, uh, if I remember
correctly, forrest whitaker was

1105
00:56:52,699 --> 00:56:58,221
the first academy award-winning
actor to ever be in star wars

1106
00:56:58,262 --> 00:57:00,992
like, specifically, academy
award-winning actor for best

1107
00:57:01,112 --> 00:57:03,956
actor, um to to ever be in star
wars.

1108
00:57:04,137 --> 00:57:07,690
Speaker 1: And yeah, uh, the guy
acts his heart out and you

1109
00:57:07,710 --> 00:57:11,043
could tell he's having fun, like
you could tell like he loves

1110
00:57:11,083 --> 00:57:14,514
that character, he loves
reprising that role, and he just

1111
00:57:14,514 --> 00:57:19,128
eats the heck out of those,
those like few scripts that he's

1112
00:57:19,128 --> 00:57:22,097
given yeah, no, he does, he's
when.

1113
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,726
Speaker 2: When he's shown on
screen, it's like really strong

1114
00:57:25,327 --> 00:57:29,554
and yeah, that moment between
him and luthan is really cool

1115
00:57:30,394 --> 00:57:34,800
all right, let's jump over to
the second uh half of this

1116
00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:36,362
second half of andor season one.

1117
00:57:37,202 --> 00:57:43,994
Speaker 1: We have, uh, the
death of marva marva, and sorry,

1118
00:57:43,994 --> 00:57:50,503
I, I love b2emo so much yes, me
too, he is he is like the most

1119
00:57:50,983 --> 00:57:55,195
uh dog-like droid in the entire
uh star wars canon.

1120
00:57:55,195 --> 00:57:58,543
I think like I can't think of
another droid that is more of a

1121
00:57:58,603 --> 00:58:01,835
dog, like, like a literal like
pet dog, you know, like, but

1122
00:58:01,996 --> 00:58:06,489
everything that he does is so
pet like and I love it.

1123
00:58:06,489 --> 00:58:08,434
I love it so much he's just
like an old dog.

1124
00:58:08,775 --> 00:58:12,784
Speaker 2: Uh, it's such a great
addition to the show and, and I

1125
00:58:12,784 --> 00:58:17,313
do like that there's such like,
such care for him, like even

1126
00:58:17,614 --> 00:58:23,179
you know, like when Marva Marva
passes away, it's like the

1127
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:28,445
people that that that cared
about Marva knew that like they

1128
00:58:28,465 --> 00:58:32,737
would want them, they knew that
that she would want them to to

1129
00:58:32,797 --> 00:58:38,731
take care of of B and you know,
and he's just like you could

1130
00:58:38,751 --> 00:58:39,956
tell he's so sad.

1131
00:58:40,498 --> 00:58:42,253
Speaker 1: Also it's.

1132
00:58:42,514 --> 00:58:45,525
Speaker 2: It's so interesting
and and you've said it before,

1133
00:58:45,565 --> 00:58:52,003
dakota that star Wars has a way
of giving something like a uh,

1134
00:58:52,291 --> 00:58:56,195
of something that's not like
real, like feelings.

1135
00:58:56,195 --> 00:58:58,961
You know, you, you get it with
a c-3po.

1136
00:58:58,961 --> 00:59:01,833
You you even get it a little
bit with I mean, you get it with

1137
00:59:01,833 --> 00:59:04,681
r2d2 and you don't even know
what r2d2 is saying.

1138
00:59:04,681 --> 00:59:08,277
But like you know the, you know
that he's given off some, like

1139
00:59:08,317 --> 00:59:14,175
you know, attitude and little
zest and and so, uh, b is you

1140
00:59:14,215 --> 00:59:19,443
know you could tell that b is
mourning and it's really, it's

1141
00:59:19,483 --> 00:59:21,777
really really cool, like you
know, just that kind of like

1142
00:59:21,836 --> 00:59:23,605
last thing that he does for
Marva.

1143
00:59:24,692 --> 00:59:28,219
Speaker 1: I like and yeah, I
forgot that I had mentioned that

1144
00:59:28,219 --> 00:59:31,532
on the podcast at some point
but that's something that I've

1145
00:59:31,771 --> 00:59:38,481
always like, really found quite
wonderful about Star Wars is, in

1146
00:59:38,481 --> 00:59:43,710
any other science fiction
property whether it be Star Trek

1147
00:59:43,710 --> 00:59:49,135
or Terminator, battlestar
Galactica, any anything that has

1148
00:59:49,135 --> 00:59:56,782
robots or whatever, or androids
there's a divide between

1149
00:59:57,782 --> 01:00:01,266
sentient life, which is humans,
and the robots.

1150
01:00:01,266 --> 01:00:07,458
There's, there's a distinct
lack of a soul given to them in

1151
01:00:07,498 --> 01:00:12,711
the writing and a lot of the
times, you know a good portion

1152
01:00:13,152 --> 01:00:17,943
of their arc is finding, finding
that soul.

1153
01:00:17,943 --> 01:00:21,612
You know, like I think of star
trek, the next generation data.

1154
01:00:21,612 --> 01:00:23,998
He's on a constant quest to be
a real boy.

1155
01:00:23,998 --> 01:00:24,699
You know he's.

1156
01:00:24,699 --> 01:00:26,001
He's a pinocchio character.

1157
01:00:26,001 --> 01:00:31,896
He's constantly trying to, you
know, make himself feel real.

1158
01:00:32,577 --> 01:00:35,721
But in star wars you never have
that question.

1159
01:00:35,721 --> 01:00:39,786
These are sentient beings of
another life form.

1160
01:00:39,786 --> 01:00:44,302
It's another form of life, just
mechanical.

1161
01:00:44,302 --> 01:00:50,802
These are just as pertinent
characters as the flesh and

1162
01:00:50,822 --> 01:00:51,342
blood ones.

1163
01:00:51,342 --> 01:00:53,610
They have their own emotions.

1164
01:00:53,610 --> 01:00:57,976
A lot of times they are treated
lesser.

1165
01:00:57,976 --> 01:01:02,103
We don't serve their kind here,
but there is something to be

1166
01:01:02,164 --> 01:01:11,972
said about, like the emotions
that the droids share, like you

1167
01:01:11,992 --> 01:01:13,485
can tell if R2-D2 is sad or if
he's scared by the way that he

1168
01:01:13,507 --> 01:01:13,869
intonates, you know.

1169
01:01:15,233 --> 01:01:16,114
With B2-Emo.

1170
01:01:16,114 --> 01:01:19,130
By the way, way, I love that
name b, because he's he's always

1171
01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:25,561
being too emo, um, I I that has
to be intentional, but anyway,

1172
01:01:26,202 --> 01:01:27,684
uh, yeah, with with him.

1173
01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:31,199
They wrote him like a dog that
can talk.

1174
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:34,894
I almost think it sounds like
doug from up.

1175
01:01:34,894 --> 01:01:38,081
You know, like my, my name is
Doug and I love you.

1176
01:01:38,081 --> 01:01:42,597
That's the vibe that I get from
B.

1177
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:49,302
But, yeah, I've always wanted to
make a video or like an essay

1178
01:01:49,382 --> 01:01:55,565
of some kind about comparing
droids in Star Wars to androids

1179
01:01:55,646 --> 01:01:58,094
and robots in other franchises,
because there's something to be

1180
01:01:58,135 --> 01:02:01,710
said about, like how we don't
even question that these are

1181
01:02:01,731 --> 01:02:07,853
characters with, like their own
initiative in Star Wars, but we

1182
01:02:08,494 --> 01:02:10,340
have to question it in other
franchises.

1183
01:02:10,340 --> 01:02:12,134
You know, like, are they
programmed?

1184
01:02:12,134 --> 01:02:12,715
What are they?

1185
01:02:12,715 --> 01:02:12,996
Why?

1186
01:02:12,996 --> 01:02:16,456
You know, why is this android
and alien doing the bidding of

1187
01:02:16,476 --> 01:02:17,099
Weyland-Yutani, like what?

1188
01:02:17,099 --> 01:02:18,704
What is going on with this
android, an alien, doing the

1189
01:02:18,744 --> 01:02:20,230
bidding of Weyland-Yutani?

1190
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:22,338
What is going on with this
android?

1191
01:02:22,338 --> 01:02:24,557
What is his programming telling
him to do?

1192
01:02:24,557 --> 01:02:27,396
You don't really have that
question in Star Wars, because

1193
01:02:27,436 --> 01:02:28,840
it's just a different type of
being.

1194
01:02:29,331 --> 01:02:34,072
Anyway, I'm rambling like crazy,
but yeah, so Marva died, not

1195
01:02:34,092 --> 01:02:39,510
very good, but she literally
made the most of her death, um,

1196
01:02:39,692 --> 01:02:46,407
and it was a wonderfully written
cry and plea to her people to

1197
01:02:46,447 --> 01:02:49,431
continue fighting against the
empire and it's it totally

1198
01:02:49,472 --> 01:02:53,797
backfired on the empire for
allowing that to have that

1199
01:02:53,836 --> 01:02:59,965
funeral so good yeah, seriously,
uh, yeah, and it's so wild,

1200
01:03:00,005 --> 01:03:05,059
like, how much like, and it kind
of harkens back to you talking

1201
01:03:05,099 --> 01:03:09,690
about the, the culture in
pharynx, and it's very obvious

1202
01:03:09,751 --> 01:03:14,115
that a lot like most of the
people carry, they cared about

1203
01:03:14,155 --> 01:03:18,561
marva and they cared about, you
know, cassian.

1204
01:03:18,943 --> 01:03:22,231
Speaker 2: Even if cassian owed
half of the money or something

1205
01:03:22,271 --> 01:03:25,800
like that, you know, I think it
was because of because of marva

1206
01:03:25,860 --> 01:03:26,521
and his, you know.

1207
01:03:26,521 --> 01:03:30,918
You know she, he was her
adoptive son, so that care kind

1208
01:03:30,978 --> 01:03:32,400
of carried on over to that.

1209
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,675
And you know, just, you could
tell that that cassian was just

1210
01:03:36,876 --> 01:03:40,882
breaking on the inside when he
found out that that she had

1211
01:03:40,943 --> 01:03:41,664
passed away.

1212
01:03:41,664 --> 01:03:47,025
And you know how everybody, you
know, was just like, you know,

1213
01:03:47,085 --> 01:03:51,336
man, I'm, I'm so sorry, and he,
he even tried to be like you

1214
01:03:51,356 --> 01:03:54,092
know, I tried to take her with
me, you know I.

1215
01:03:54,092 --> 01:03:58,942
You know the last thing we, the
last thing that happened when

1216
01:03:58,981 --> 01:04:04,259
we talked, was we were arguing
and you know that and brasso is

1217
01:04:04,278 --> 01:04:05,882
like you know, don't do that to
yourself.

1218
01:04:05,882 --> 01:04:08,394
And so you know this, this is
kind of like where you're

1219
01:04:08,414 --> 01:04:11,411
talking about, like how you
really like brasso, like it

1220
01:04:11,472 --> 01:04:16,001
really shows why, even more so,
why he's such a great character,

1221
01:04:16,001 --> 01:04:20,632
you know yeah, I, I love um how
he starts beating people with

1222
01:04:20,652 --> 01:04:21,072
the brick.

1223
01:04:21,152 --> 01:04:23,460
Speaker 1: Of marva's remains
like that's that's how marva

1224
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,882
would want to go out, you know
just like that was awesome the.

1225
01:04:27,981 --> 01:04:30,230
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is
is that like if she was there

1226
01:04:30,329 --> 01:04:34,655
to witness that she would be
like yeah, like she, she would

1227
01:04:34,695 --> 01:04:40,083
be like yeah use me to to bash
him in and and when, and and

1228
01:04:40,143 --> 01:04:42,331
when that happens, like obvious.

1229
01:04:42,632 --> 01:04:46,800
When, when they were doing that
whole like procession, I was

1230
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,693
just like, yeah, like you know,
I mean especially not that first

1231
01:04:50,693 --> 01:04:55,762
time that I had seen it um, you
know, like you just know,

1232
01:04:55,842 --> 01:04:57,076
something's happening.

1233
01:04:57,076 --> 01:05:00,414
There's just like this tension
that's building up and it's not

1234
01:05:00,494 --> 01:05:03,382
just grief, there's some anger
that's happening there.

1235
01:05:03,382 --> 01:05:07,559
And, yeah, that call to fight
from marva was just was really

1236
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:10,711
just a straw that broke the
camel's back, something that was

1237
01:05:10,711 --> 01:05:16,019
already building up and and so,
yeah, like, and then you saw,

1238
01:05:16,139 --> 01:05:19,385
like the, the Empire just like
lighting them up.

1239
01:05:19,385 --> 01:05:22,693
You know they started shooting
at them and and so it's like,

1240
01:05:22,753 --> 01:05:26,402
yeah, this is, you know,
farrakh's, going to be one of

1241
01:05:26,443 --> 01:05:29,090
those, one of those things that
people talk about.

1242
01:05:29,090 --> 01:05:31,659
Like, you know, this is, this
is how the Empire is.

1243
01:05:31,659 --> 01:05:36,938
You know they were shooting
into a crowd of mourning people,

1244
01:05:36,938 --> 01:05:39,041
you know, even though, like I
know that they like kind of

1245
01:05:39,362 --> 01:05:40,385
started to attack them.

1246
01:05:40,385 --> 01:05:42,635
But a lot of people are going
to be like, yeah, but they

1247
01:05:42,675 --> 01:05:45,202
started shooting at people who
weren't shooting at them.

1248
01:05:45,202 --> 01:05:46,554
They were unarmed, you know.

1249
01:05:46,976 --> 01:05:51,818
Speaker 1: Totally, and I love
that this was all orchestrated

1250
01:05:51,878 --> 01:05:56,235
by the Empire as a trap for
Andor and they never come close

1251
01:05:56,255 --> 01:05:59,056
to catching this guy, even
though he just shows up.

1252
01:05:59,056 --> 01:06:01,838
He's, he's on the streets of
this, this planet somehow, like

1253
01:06:01,858 --> 01:06:02,018
they.

1254
01:06:02,018 --> 01:06:05,054
They're not, like there's no
perimeter around this, this site

1255
01:06:05,054 --> 01:06:06,838
, like I love.

1256
01:06:06,838 --> 01:06:10,271
I love the fact that, like
andor's coming increased

1257
01:06:10,311 --> 01:06:13,657
security everywhere and he's
just walking the streets like

1258
01:06:14,860 --> 01:06:19,376
yeah, that's and, and I'm and
like the sewers or something you

1259
01:06:19,376 --> 01:06:19,538
know.

1260
01:06:19,597 --> 01:06:21,574
Speaker 2: Like they didn't even
think that like he would, he

1261
01:06:21,614 --> 01:06:24,681
would be trying to go down in
like that area, like he had this

1262
01:06:24,681 --> 01:06:28,059
like whole little, like little,
like hideout down there with

1263
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,447
brasso and um, was it palenka?

1264
01:06:30,447 --> 01:06:30,487
I?

1265
01:06:30,507 --> 01:06:32,938
Speaker 1: don't remember the
guys, oh, I think it is palenka,

1266
01:06:32,938 --> 01:06:34,025
yeah, yeah, what are you saying
?

1267
01:06:34,025 --> 01:06:34,789
Rich, rich, what are you?

1268
01:06:34,809 --> 01:06:37,355
Speaker 3: saying yeah, yeah, I
mean this, what you guys talking

1269
01:06:37,355 --> 01:06:40,601
about just kind of really just
keeps feeding into my idea that

1270
01:06:40,762 --> 01:06:44,936
just this guy's fated to be
where he has to be, damned the

1271
01:06:45,135 --> 01:06:45,416
odds.

1272
01:06:45,416 --> 01:06:51,931
Because it's just a little, uh,
you know, and look, the truth

1273
01:06:52,152 --> 01:06:57,900
is, in any type of any type of
story, where the good guy is is

1274
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,911
one, you know, that is vastly
outnumbered, you know, unless

1275
01:07:01,971 --> 01:07:07,121
it's a a george rr martin uh
story, because then, uh, then

1276
01:07:07,141 --> 01:07:09,873
the guy will get his just
desserts for for trying to fight

1277
01:07:09,873 --> 01:07:10,516
for justice.

1278
01:07:10,516 --> 01:07:14,371
But, uh, in in these types of
stories that you know, there is

1279
01:07:14,411 --> 01:07:18,061
a little bit of a conceit, I
think, uh, but I still, I still

1280
01:07:18,141 --> 01:07:22,382
feel like it leads a little bit
to to this guy just, you know,

1281
01:07:22,523 --> 01:07:25,411
being a tool of the force yeah,
it almost has that.

1282
01:07:25,773 --> 01:07:28,101
Speaker 1: Um, I am one with the
force and the forces with me

1283
01:07:28,242 --> 01:07:33,532
yep, oh yeah, kind of energy but
I see what you're saying.

1284
01:07:33,532 --> 01:07:38,217
Yeah, it is an interesting way
to look at it and I think going

1285
01:07:38,297 --> 01:07:42,621
back to this first season after
watching the most recent

1286
01:07:42,661 --> 01:07:45,583
episodes is a really interesting
thought process because it

1287
01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:48,967
changes the way that you
perceive the character of Andor.

1288
01:07:48,967 --> 01:07:51,898
Again, anthony, you got to
catch up.

1289
01:07:51,898 --> 01:07:55,657
I'm excited to hear your
thoughts on the Gorman Massacre.

1290
01:07:55,677 --> 01:07:58,402
Speaker 2: Excited to hear your
thoughts on, yeah, the gorman

1291
01:07:58,422 --> 01:07:58,802
massacre.

1292
01:07:58,802 --> 01:08:07,813
Um, there there's, um there's
also like you guys are kind of

1293
01:08:07,833 --> 01:08:09,057
talking about, like you know how
, how he's just like kind of

1294
01:08:09,077 --> 01:08:10,141
navigating stuff without getting
caught.

1295
01:08:10,141 --> 01:08:12,510
You know he also like goes into
that hotel that they're holed

1296
01:08:12,610 --> 01:08:12,990
up in.

1297
01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:17,238
Oh yeah, to save bix, and he
only had like one guy that he

1298
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,625
had to take down dude they're so
.

1299
01:08:21,291 --> 01:08:25,323
Speaker 1: They're so stupid in
in all of that big trap that

1300
01:08:25,363 --> 01:08:28,350
they set out for them, they were
so preoccupied with, like,

1301
01:08:28,411 --> 01:08:29,313
looking for this guy.

1302
01:08:29,313 --> 01:08:32,201
They they were not paying
attention to what was actually

1303
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:32,822
being done.

1304
01:08:32,822 --> 01:08:36,918
On you know like the outrage
that was like building up in the

1305
01:08:36,918 --> 01:08:38,443
crowd until it was way too late
.

1306
01:08:38,443 --> 01:08:42,399
You know like they, they let
that build to a boiling point

1307
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,671
and then they tried to shut it
down way too late.

1308
01:08:44,671 --> 01:08:48,539
And that's obviously you know
like when, when uh brasso

1309
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,636
started bricking people dude, he
, he was just like thrown down

1310
01:08:54,756 --> 01:08:55,117
on them.

1311
01:08:55,697 --> 01:08:57,659
Speaker 2: I love love, I love
that scream of triumph.

1312
01:08:57,699 --> 01:08:59,662
Speaker 1: Like he, like raises
his hands and like one of the

1313
01:08:59,702 --> 01:09:02,746
hands has a brick and he's just
like, ah, it's just the, the,

1314
01:09:02,909 --> 01:09:04,698
the war cry for the Ferrix.

1315
01:09:04,698 --> 01:09:08,333
People Love this, I love that
moment, and also like Marva's.

1316
01:09:08,333 --> 01:09:09,918
Marva's speech, too, is another
.

1317
01:09:09,918 --> 01:09:13,158
There's no shortage of good
speeches in this show.

1318
01:09:13,158 --> 01:09:15,613
Like we, we in this show, like
we we haven't even touched upon.

1319
01:09:15,613 --> 01:09:19,872
Like luthan's speech to that
isb agent lani, um, where he

1320
01:09:19,931 --> 01:09:22,341
talks about like how he, how
much he sacrificed.

1321
01:09:22,341 --> 01:09:26,095
Like you know how um, every
waking moment for the past 15

1322
01:09:26,154 --> 01:09:28,845
years, based on, like a
calculation that he made, like

1323
01:09:29,006 --> 01:09:32,896
after the empire came into
effect, um has like led him down

1324
01:09:32,896 --> 01:09:34,462
this path and there's no going
back.

1325
01:09:34,882 --> 01:09:39,954
Speaker 2: And dude stalin
skarsgård, such a just, such a

1326
01:09:39,994 --> 01:09:43,962
phenomenal actor right, like he
already was in his own right in

1327
01:09:44,063 --> 01:09:46,814
other things, but like he really
brought that.

1328
01:09:46,814 --> 01:09:49,599
He brought that energy to this
show.

1329
01:09:49,599 --> 01:09:54,833
And you know it's, it's crazy
because like, yeah, you know he

1330
01:09:54,913 --> 01:09:58,220
should, he shows up, we, we get
him a lot more than we get.

1331
01:09:58,220 --> 01:10:02,615
Say, like um saw guerrera, but
like, even then, like forrest

1332
01:10:02,655 --> 01:10:05,671
whitaker, an amazing actor in
his own right, bringing that

1333
01:10:05,712 --> 01:10:10,802
energy to this show, diego luna,
um, really, you know, really

1334
01:10:10,842 --> 01:10:14,559
just like killing this character
, like you, you can tell that,

1335
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,631
like he enjoys like being this
character of casting and or

1336
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:22,539
because I feel like he brings us
all to it yeah rich.

1337
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,577
Speaker 1: What did you think of
marva's uh speech inciting uh

1338
01:10:26,657 --> 01:10:28,603
the people around her in her
death?

1339
01:10:29,003 --> 01:10:29,845
Speaker 3: I thought it was
great.

1340
01:10:29,845 --> 01:10:32,814
I mean, I actually kind of like
luthens a little bit more, just

1341
01:10:32,814 --> 01:10:38,733
because, not that there's more
truth to his, but just it felt

1342
01:10:39,333 --> 01:10:44,501
more real, uh, and it felt I
could really feel like his

1343
01:10:44,541 --> 01:10:49,552
sacrifice where, uh, you know,
marva's kind of like this is her

1344
01:10:49,552 --> 01:10:53,381
last fiery stand and this is
how she wanted to go out, so in

1345
01:10:53,442 --> 01:10:58,756
many ways it was like beautiful
and, you know, inspiring and all

1346
01:10:58,756 --> 01:11:04,283
together, uh, where luthens is
just so, so dark, you know, and

1347
01:11:04,323 --> 01:11:08,134
it makes me think of when he,
when he puts on the, uh, the,

1348
01:11:08,194 --> 01:11:13,443
the wig right and just kind of
like how that that, that creepy,

1349
01:11:13,443 --> 01:11:17,734
that fake the, the smile that
we know to be hollow and fake,

1350
01:11:18,015 --> 01:11:22,362
just overtakes him, like he just
becomes that guy, you know, and

1351
01:11:22,362 --> 01:11:28,375
he it's like that speech kind
of proves to us like who, that

1352
01:11:28,435 --> 01:11:30,057
he is nobody anymore.

1353
01:11:30,057 --> 01:11:31,520
Right, he there's.

1354
01:11:31,659 --> 01:11:35,632
There's no defining luthan
characteristic, because at every

1355
01:11:35,632 --> 01:11:40,141
turn he will do what is
necessary, and that takes him

1356
01:11:40,283 --> 01:11:43,077
further and further away from
the person he once was.

1357
01:11:43,779 --> 01:11:46,417
Speaker 1: So, and I think,
sorry, I think that is actually

1358
01:11:46,457 --> 01:11:50,210
like why he likes lani so much
you know, like he's not willing

1359
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:54,564
to get rid of that uh contact
within the isp, because not only

1360
01:11:54,564 --> 01:11:59,755
has he been like grooming lani
to like be the perfect uh plants

1361
01:11:59,755 --> 01:12:04,002
for the past six years, but I
think he sees a lot of himself

1362
01:12:04,743 --> 01:12:08,375
in lani in the in the sense that
, like this is another person

1363
01:12:08,435 --> 01:12:13,992
who is uh constantly acting,
constantly putting on a front to

1364
01:12:13,992 --> 01:12:15,395
eventually bring down the
empire.

1365
01:12:15,395 --> 01:12:19,612
You know, it's a really it's a
a very nuanced show like in in

1366
01:12:19,631 --> 01:12:23,443
pretty much every instance it's
so nuanced um with with marva

1367
01:12:23,643 --> 01:12:26,817
one one thing that I liked that
she said was she.

1368
01:12:26,817 --> 01:12:32,810
She had previously felt
uplifted by uh the speeches made

1369
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:35,216
from other dead people,
basically.

1370
01:12:35,216 --> 01:12:41,194
So now it was her turn and she
was like so willing to um make

1371
01:12:41,234 --> 01:12:44,261
that a reality and it's it's
interesting the part where she

1372
01:12:44,322 --> 01:12:49,211
says like she's looking at the
crowd and obviously to her she's

1373
01:12:49,211 --> 01:12:50,931
not actually looking at the
crowd, she's looking at the

1374
01:12:50,992 --> 01:12:54,996
droid that she's recording this
on and she says it's funny, I

1375
01:12:55,036 --> 01:12:55,597
can see.

1376
01:12:55,597 --> 01:12:57,456
It's almost as if I can see you
there.

1377
01:12:57,456 --> 01:13:00,951
You know, like it's so real to
her Like this is going to happen

1378
01:13:00,951 --> 01:13:00,951
.

1379
01:13:00,951 --> 01:13:03,292
This is what's going to incite
this.

1380
01:13:03,292 --> 01:13:04,595
You know like it's so real to
her Like this is going to happen

1381
01:13:04,595 --> 01:13:05,676
, this is what's going to incite
this, you know, brief

1382
01:13:05,695 --> 01:13:08,018
insurrection against the Empire,
you know.

1383
01:13:08,018 --> 01:13:10,560
And it's just so beautifully
done.

1384
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,404
And so there's so much of this
show that I find builds upon

1385
01:13:15,465 --> 01:13:26,271
itself in meaningful ways and
almost like once an episode, at

1386
01:13:26,292 --> 01:13:27,975
least once, once or twice every
arc, there's a crescendo moment

1387
01:13:27,996 --> 01:13:31,021
where something builds up to a
boiling point and it just all

1388
01:13:31,061 --> 01:13:32,384
goes down and it's so.

1389
01:13:32,384 --> 01:13:37,779
It never disappoints, even like
the, the lesser, I would say

1390
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,692
the lesser arcs within the the
two seasons.

1391
01:13:40,692 --> 01:13:44,390
They're still written extremely
strongly.

1392
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:45,372
You know like they're.

1393
01:13:45,372 --> 01:13:49,863
They're still strong episodes
and you know powerful additions

1394
01:13:49,962 --> 01:13:54,738
to the star wars canon and um,
while I don't personally think

1395
01:13:54,838 --> 01:13:59,354
this ferrix arc is the strongest
of the show or the season in

1396
01:13:59,375 --> 01:14:03,650
general, that the moment where
the marching band starts up and

1397
01:14:03,911 --> 01:14:08,538
b2emo is like leading the people
down rick's road toward the

1398
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,703
plaza and dude, it's.

1399
01:14:11,104 --> 01:14:14,536
Speaker 2: It's just like you
get chills that it's, it's just

1400
01:14:14,555 --> 01:14:18,952
so powerful, yeah right, yeah it
like it's a season finale that

1401
01:14:19,192 --> 01:14:24,162
ends at least strong enough, you
know 100, 100 yeah, what did

1402
01:14:24,182 --> 01:14:27,760
you think about luthan trying to
uh like for a good portion of

1403
01:14:27,801 --> 01:14:29,627
this season, the latter half
especially?

1404
01:14:30,269 --> 01:14:34,117
Speaker 1: he wants to kill
andor and he's he's sent uh vel

1405
01:14:34,337 --> 01:14:34,837
to do so.

1406
01:14:34,837 --> 01:14:37,063
Vel and senta, what are your
thoughts on that?

1407
01:14:37,623 --> 01:14:37,823
Speaker 3: rich.

1408
01:14:37,823 --> 01:14:40,856
I mean, I don't blame him, he's
covered, he's.

1409
01:14:40,856 --> 01:14:43,743
You know these are the
decisions he has to make.

1410
01:14:43,743 --> 01:14:47,494
You know, it's not I don't.

1411
01:14:47,494 --> 01:14:52,984
There's no part of me that
disagrees with what he intended

1412
01:14:53,024 --> 01:14:53,305
to do.

1413
01:14:53,305 --> 01:14:57,737
You know it sucked, but he
loses contact and there's a guy

1414
01:14:57,796 --> 01:15:01,603
who knows who he is and knows
his face and knows his

1415
01:15:02,042 --> 01:15:03,305
motivations in some way.

1416
01:15:03,305 --> 01:15:07,073
Right, I mean, I'm going to use
a word that you know I'm not so

1417
01:15:07,073 --> 01:15:08,237
sure you're supposed to use
anymore.

1418
01:15:08,237 --> 01:15:13,194
Um, he's, he seems like he's
grooming and or for bigger

1419
01:15:13,274 --> 01:15:15,939
things, right in the non you
could say.

1420
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,231
Speaker 1: You could say
grooming when it's in all right,

1421
01:15:18,231 --> 01:15:19,252
when it's in some.

1422
01:15:19,252 --> 01:15:20,253
Well, I'm a t?

1423
01:15:20,454 --> 01:15:21,676
Speaker 3: I can't say it at
school anymore.

1424
01:15:21,676 --> 01:15:23,679
You know I'm saying like you
can't say it in that context,

1425
01:15:23,779 --> 01:15:25,140
right like it's, it's.

1426
01:15:25,140 --> 01:15:27,385
It's a little bit too taboo, uh
.

1427
01:15:27,385 --> 01:15:30,757
But yeah, in the traditional
sense of a mentor, mentee type

1428
01:15:30,797 --> 01:15:35,371
relationship, it's almost like
he was tough, loving, kind of

1429
01:15:36,091 --> 01:15:40,338
and or and now he's almost a
little bit hurt and also needs

1430
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:41,159
to protect himself.

1431
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:45,694
So you know, had to kind of go
at him but I almost felt like so

1432
01:15:45,694 --> 01:15:48,439
it wasn't half-hearted, I don't
know.

1433
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,530
It feels like everything else
he does works.

1434
01:15:50,530 --> 01:15:51,814
So is it just?

1435
01:15:51,994 --> 01:15:54,340
Speaker 1: so it's interesting
his relationship to andor and

1436
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:57,335
this harkens back to what we've
been saying, or like hinting at,

1437
01:15:57,335 --> 01:16:00,282
because we don't ultimately, we
don't know what what andor's

1438
01:16:00,449 --> 01:16:00,730
you know role.

1439
01:16:00,730 --> 01:16:01,777
I mean we know what andor's
role in the universe is

1440
01:16:01,796 --> 01:16:02,823
ultimately, but, um, we don't
know what Andor's role.

1441
01:16:02,823 --> 01:16:02,962
I mean.

1442
01:16:02,962 --> 01:16:05,212
We know what Andor's role in
the universe is ultimately, but

1443
01:16:05,332 --> 01:16:09,962
we don't understand if there is
any force involvement truly with

1444
01:16:09,962 --> 01:16:10,262
Andor.

1445
01:16:10,262 --> 01:16:12,578
But it's interesting that in
the beginning of this season,

1446
01:16:12,930 --> 01:16:17,440
luthen breaks his own protocol
that he has adopted for the past

1447
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:22,319
15 years to take this one dude,
put him on a job that he

1448
01:16:22,359 --> 01:16:24,302
wouldn't have, he would have
never thought to do.

1449
01:16:24,302 --> 01:16:28,578
And he does the, the job and
like, when he finally comes back

1450
01:16:28,578 --> 01:16:33,215
to coruscant, he's reprimanded
by claya, his secretary, because

1451
01:16:33,215 --> 01:16:36,021
whoa, whoa, what are we doing?

1452
01:16:36,021 --> 01:16:36,422
How?

1453
01:16:36,422 --> 01:16:39,489
Why did you make this really
random decision?

1454
01:16:39,489 --> 01:16:42,819
And he doesn't know, he doesn't
have an answer for that, like,

1455
01:16:42,899 --> 01:16:44,011
why did he do that?

1456
01:16:44,011 --> 01:16:47,139
And so, you know, later on he's
just like, oh well, yeah, I

1457
01:16:47,179 --> 01:16:49,733
guess we'll, we'll have to kill
this guy because he, he knows my

1458
01:16:49,733 --> 01:16:56,248
, my face, but in the moment
he's 100, you know, like pro and

1459
01:16:56,248 --> 01:16:59,033
or like this is the guy we need
for some reason he knows that

1460
01:16:59,054 --> 01:16:59,916
this is the guy we need.

1461
01:17:00,417 --> 01:17:06,332
And then later, like once andor
shows up in his ship, um the

1462
01:17:06,393 --> 01:17:10,500
fondor, at the end of the season
, he's almost given that same

1463
01:17:11,242 --> 01:17:15,815
opportunity of like, do I take
this guy in or do I kill him?

1464
01:17:15,815 --> 01:17:20,043
And he ends up, you know,
choosing to to take him in and

1465
01:17:20,350 --> 01:17:22,716
it's it's almost against his
better judgment and he starts to

1466
01:17:22,716 --> 01:17:25,261
like smile and laugh a little
bit about it and it's just like

1467
01:17:25,481 --> 01:17:28,194
there's something about this
andor guy that is important and

1468
01:17:28,255 --> 01:17:32,889
it's it's almost like on a
cosmic level he has something

1469
01:17:32,929 --> 01:17:36,337
guiding him and protecting him,
you know, and it's it's a really

1470
01:17:36,337 --> 01:17:39,712
interesting thought, dynamic
and it's it's definitely worth

1471
01:17:40,336 --> 01:17:43,630
studying, almost like, because
this show is is worth studying

1472
01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:47,640
like it's, it's a, it's a master
class in not only star wars but

1473
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,255
, you know, writing in general
no I agree, like they don't

1474
01:17:51,475 --> 01:17:57,009
really ever use the term force
until sorry, anthony, they they

1475
01:17:57,250 --> 01:18:00,698
only use the term the force
until, like the ninth episode of

1476
01:18:00,698 --> 01:18:03,070
season two, like that's the
first time the force is ever

1477
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:04,393
mentioned, I think, in this show
.

1478
01:18:04,993 --> 01:18:10,650
So it is like interesting, like
almost how you can read between

1479
01:18:10,671 --> 01:18:16,680
the lines in this show and
experience it through the the

1480
01:18:16,779 --> 01:18:21,996
lens of there being some level
of spirituality guiding our

1481
01:18:22,036 --> 01:18:22,898
characters actions.

1482
01:18:22,898 --> 01:18:25,634
You know, like it's, it's a
really interesting thought

1483
01:18:25,673 --> 01:18:28,359
process and I'm just, I'm
rambling at this point because I

1484
01:18:28,359 --> 01:18:32,176
, I just I'm so enthralled by
the idea of like there being

1485
01:18:32,235 --> 01:18:36,752
something more to andor than we
know, um, or we will ever know,

1486
01:18:36,813 --> 01:18:39,542
really, because I, I almost like
the idea of it being a mystery,

1487
01:18:39,542 --> 01:18:42,251
you know, but, um, yeah, what
are your thoughts, guys, anthony

1488
01:18:42,251 --> 01:18:42,251
?

1489
01:18:42,251 --> 01:18:43,144
What, yeah, what are your
thoughts, guys, anthony?

1490
01:18:43,144 --> 01:18:48,186
What are your thoughts on
Luthen going back and forth on

1491
01:18:48,226 --> 01:18:48,710
killing Andor?

1492
01:18:49,171 --> 01:18:53,421
Speaker 2: You know, like you
said, or like Rich kind of said,

1493
01:18:53,421 --> 01:18:59,743
I do understand why he
initially went for that idea.

1494
01:18:59,743 --> 01:19:04,962
I mean, andor at that point was
kind of like a loose cannon and

1495
01:19:04,962 --> 01:19:09,661
it looked like he was swinging
into a direction that that could

1496
01:19:09,661 --> 01:19:14,814
have brought down a lot of what
luthan was building up, when in

1497
01:19:14,814 --> 01:19:17,882
reality andor didn't really
like care to.

1498
01:19:17,882 --> 01:19:22,395
You know, just rat on anybody,
he just wanted to get his money

1499
01:19:22,454 --> 01:19:22,775
and go.

1500
01:19:22,775 --> 01:19:27,555
But you know the fact that,
like you know, andor is like you

1501
01:19:27,555 --> 01:19:30,421
know, I know I saw you and I
know that you're here to kill me

1502
01:19:30,421 --> 01:19:30,421
.

1503
01:19:30,421 --> 01:19:35,097
Well, look, you know, here I am
, here's an opportunity.

1504
01:19:35,097 --> 01:19:39,211
So so in a way it's, it's kind
of shown him that, like you know

1505
01:19:39,211 --> 01:19:44,060
, look, I'm, I'm giving you this
, this easy way to to take me

1506
01:19:44,282 --> 01:19:47,635
out, but it's also inviting him,
like you know, I have more to

1507
01:19:47,815 --> 01:19:54,036
offer and so you know, obviously
that's why you know we, we have

1508
01:19:54,036 --> 01:19:57,480
uh and or season two we have
and or season two.

1509
01:19:58,203 --> 01:20:00,351
Speaker 1: Um, all right guys,
what is your, what are your last

1510
01:20:00,351 --> 01:20:05,570
thoughts on the, not only these
uh six episodes, but the the

1511
01:20:05,610 --> 01:20:06,872
first season of andor in general
.

1512
01:20:07,213 --> 01:20:12,384
Speaker 3: Uh, rich I I like,
like you touched on earlier,

1513
01:20:12,404 --> 01:20:16,096
like I kind of started the show
with I, I appreciated this so

1514
01:20:16,176 --> 01:20:19,243
much more after watching the
second one.

1515
01:20:19,243 --> 01:20:20,011
And it's not.

1516
01:20:20,011 --> 01:20:23,000
This isn't a flashback kind of
scenario, this isn't a.

1517
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,878
I remember I said that with the
rings of power where I thought

1518
01:20:27,918 --> 01:20:31,152
that the pacing was just, it's
just, it was just such an

1519
01:20:31,212 --> 01:20:34,421
expansive story that you know
they they didn't fit it into the

1520
01:20:34,421 --> 01:20:35,350
season the right way.

1521
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:37,416
I don't have that criticism of
andor.

1522
01:20:37,416 --> 01:20:41,113
I don't believe that anything
from season two needed to be in

1523
01:20:41,154 --> 01:20:43,440
season one for me to enjoy
season one more.

1524
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:48,154
I just think that season two is
so good and makes you ask so

1525
01:20:48,194 --> 01:20:52,960
many questions that when you go
back and watch season one, it

1526
01:20:53,740 --> 01:20:56,404
just makes it a much more
fulfilling experience.

1527
01:20:57,425 --> 01:20:58,326
Speaker 1: It's well said.

1528
01:20:58,626 --> 01:20:59,487
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's well
said.

1529
01:21:00,431 --> 01:21:05,989
Speaker 1: Anthony, go ahead
well said.

1530
01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:07,212
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's well
said, anthony, go ahead, dude.

1531
01:21:07,212 --> 01:21:07,573
This this is.

1532
01:21:07,573 --> 01:21:08,976
You know, I kind of said it in
the in the first part of the of

1533
01:21:09,016 --> 01:21:10,019
these two episodes.

1534
01:21:10,019 --> 01:21:15,150
But yeah, man, like, like I
said, this show it's like it has

1535
01:21:15,150 --> 01:21:20,219
no right to be as good as it is
, but you know it is, and just

1536
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,284
hopping on and watching it is,
it's always, it's such a treat.

1537
01:21:24,284 --> 01:21:27,238
It was a treat the first time
and it was a treat the second

1538
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:28,020
time around.

1539
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:32,314
And yeah, man, you know season
two has been shaping up to be

1540
01:21:32,354 --> 01:21:35,324
really good and you know that
one's about to.

1541
01:21:35,324 --> 01:21:38,635
You know that series finale is
about to drop soon.

1542
01:21:38,635 --> 01:21:43,024
So you know, let's enjoy it now
while we're in the moment I

1543
01:21:43,326 --> 01:21:44,989
couldn't agree more.

1544
01:21:45,050 --> 01:21:47,775
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, this first
episode, or this first season of

1545
01:21:47,775 --> 01:21:48,277
andor.

1546
01:21:48,277 --> 01:21:51,310
I remember and I've said it
many times on the show like I

1547
01:21:51,371 --> 01:21:56,042
cannot believe that they made a
prestige star wars show and it

1548
01:21:56,101 --> 01:21:56,643
actually works.

1549
01:21:56,643 --> 01:22:00,417
You know it's, it's as good as
anything on hbo and anything on

1550
01:22:00,537 --> 01:22:02,823
Apple TV or Amazon Prime.

1551
01:22:02,823 --> 01:22:05,960
It's that level of television.

1552
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:13,604
And rewatching season one while
season two is airing has been a

1553
01:22:13,604 --> 01:22:16,050
really, I think, eye-opening
experience.

1554
01:22:16,050 --> 01:22:20,577
Like Rich said, it just
contextualizes everything that

1555
01:22:20,617 --> 01:22:21,478
happened in the past.

1556
01:22:21,478 --> 01:22:23,801
So much more.

1557
01:22:23,801 --> 01:22:27,974
Yeah, I, I'm really enjoying it
and I really did enjoy

1558
01:22:28,094 --> 01:22:30,037
re-watching this first season of
andor.

1559
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,753
Uh, but, guys, we're gonna bring
this podcast to a close and

1560
01:22:34,873 --> 01:22:38,962
ultimately there's only one way
out and the the only way out is

1561
01:22:39,422 --> 01:22:42,095
to click the stop button on our
record.

1562
01:22:42,095 --> 01:22:45,162
So we we're going to have to
wind this down.

1563
01:22:45,162 --> 01:22:47,239
I'm sorry to say we're going to
have to wind this down, but

1564
01:22:47,260 --> 01:22:51,355
again, if you want to give this
a juicy five star review, please

1565
01:22:51,355 --> 01:22:55,006
, you're more than welcome to
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1566
01:22:55,006 --> 01:22:59,113
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1567
01:22:59,134 --> 01:23:02,118
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you can click down into the show

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notes to find what we're
rambling about on our respective

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socials.

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So thanks guys, have a good one
.

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Speaker 2: Peace out y'all.

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Speaker 1: The.

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Speaker 3: Wolverine.

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Speaker 1: Stay juicy, my
friends.