Speaker 1: Okay, three, two, one , let's jam.
Welcome to episode 122 of Project Geekology, and this week
we are covering the last half of Cowboy Bebop, so from
episodes 14 to 26.
I am one third of your host, anthony, and joining me, as
always, is Dakota and I that intro three, two, one, let's jam
good.
Speaker 2: Good job with that one.
And yeah, we're joined, as always, with.
Speaker 3: Rich super excited to talk about the second half of
Cowboy Bebop this week, guys honestly, this show is
tremendous.
Speaker 2: Like I would gladly pick up like a Cowboy Bebop like
podcast and just listen episode by episode.
Like people who like know the show in and out, I'd love to
like hear all that they have to say about it.
Because as I'm watching it, like the further I got into the
season, the more I started loving the show.
Like every episode was starting to get incredibly good and I
wonder, if I go back, will I enjoy the episodes even more?
Like starting from scratch again and I'm debating it
because it's really tremendous.
Speaker 1: It's really spectacular show.
Speaker 3: That's why, like I mean, you see why I go back
periodically to watch it it's funny that you say that, dakota,
that you said that because I I would say that like I started to
like it way more the second half of last I'll say last
week's episode.
So I don't know, let's say starting maybe episode five, six
, you know, like it started sounding a build for me and then
I really liked this second half again.
I don't know if that's the old man in me that needs to watch
everything twice to enjoy it more, because I'm kind of
unpacking things and and hearing references to things and
whatever, but maybe it's because they had a beta max and this
half of the season that happened to be my favorite episode,
actually you know, I, I really, and I also liked finding about
more about the characters.
I think it was less flashbacky and more showing it to me like
look is a video of your past flashing back, yes, but at least
I can.
I feel like it's in the moment still in some weird way.
So Because it's new.
Speaker 2: It's new to the character?
Yes, but you know what?
We'll get into all of that and more.
I'm glad you liked it, rich, I loved it.
And Anthony, we know you've seen it before a couple of times
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you like it, it's in, like my top man,
it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Let's jump into what we've been up to this past week.
Rich, I'm going to head it to you, whoa?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's terrible .
The Mets have been home for 9,000 days, so I've been going
to about 9,000 games.
No, they have a really long homestand, which isn't often the
case.
Let's just put it this way.
In the last my I just looked at my apple watch I got an update
that my steps for this last month have dramatically
increased.
And uh, my friend, I actually got some messages this week
about some people saying like whoa, you've really been walking
a lot and exercising.
And I'm like no, I just am too cheap to park in the parking lot
and and I park a mile away.
It's been fun going there, school's kind of like, in this
weird wind down mode, so it's like you show up to be there,
but it's a little bit of a slog as the kids see daylight.
So just kind of been doing that , still been grinding MLB the
show to the point where I think I'm almost a little bored.
I think it needs a little bit something, or maybe I need a
little bit of a break.
I think I think I'm getting closer and closer to either
restarting Red Dead.
I've been looking at some.
I don't know how, but I mean I know how Facebook knows I like
Red Dead.
So now I just get these random posts from groups that I'm not
in about Red Dead Redemption 2.
It's just like this is a great spot to find a quail.
You know.
Just be there at six in the morning and all this talk about
hunting has gotten my manly blood up and boiling.
I need to kill some things and skin them and bring them to the
guy who buys this stuff.
I forgot the name because I see it in Spanish, so I don't see
it in English the fur trapper.
I guess I'm forgetting.
It's pelilletera in Spanish, so I play with the game in Spanish
, which makes it that much harder to find things.
Speaker 2: Wait, do you actually ?
You play in Spanish.
My PlayStation is in Spanish.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, everything, everything is in Spanish.
My PlayStation, yeah.
I mean, the only time I've ever really taken it off of Spanish
is that Fallout, all right.
So, because of the way spanish works, trying to buy things in
fallout in terms of, like the upgraded armor for the I forget
what the names of the suits are, now the I can't remember the
suits the power armor, power armors, right.
When it's the way it's, it's written in spanish.
It's impossible to go through the list.
It's really hard because everything's backwards, so like
nor normally the, the, like the descriptors in front, and it
makes more sense.
It's like at the end of the of the item.
So it's a little bit more confusing.
But, yeah, I try to do it because that way I'll I'm gonna
say this weird thing and I'll pass it off to anthony.
Basically, I've learned so much Spanish playing Skyrim and
Fallout because I've learned the names of things that I would
have never even thought to look up.
But now I found out because I, you know, I know I learned more
fruits and vegetables, the names for monsters and things and
swords and different implements, and it's definitely, I think, a
more enjoyable way of learning the language for me.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot.
I had never considered doing something like that.
You know, I've considered like reading books in Spanish, but I
think that's too heavy, too quick and it's not engaging
enough for someone who doesn't know Spanish.
Well, I can hear Spanish and I can understand it, but yeah, I
think if I had to play a game, an immersive game, like you know
a whole world, like that, that would help.
I'm telling you, man, teach Spanish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting Phone watch,
PlayStation.
The only thing I really don't have in Spanish is my computer,
just because, for work purposes and needing to get grading done
or whatever, I keep that one in english, but it's a lifestyle
choice.
Oh, I forgot the most exciting news of the week, guys.
So I'm scrolling on instagram and there's this coffee mug,
slash water bottle and it's called the loud cup.
I'm like, why would it be called the loud cup?
well, I don't know it has a built-in like fog horn, like a
voo-voo zella type horn.
Whoa right.
Speaker 2: Why would anyone need that?
Uh, so let's say you're.
Speaker 3: You know you're at your local sporting event and
you know you want to root your team on and you want to make
sure everyone hears you.
But you know you're far away, you know, so you're just like,
and I I bought that to work.
I bought that to work.
Today I started every class by blowing the horn.
I went into people's classrooms , I stopped, stopped by admin,
the main office, and I would just stop in front of people and
just go man, I'm really thirsty and then take a sip and then
switch it to the other side and then blow the horn.
It was, honestly, this sounds dumb, but it's one of the most
fun days I think I've had at work the entire year.
It had nothing to do with teaching or it just was
disrupting.
At one point Jen came around the corner and said I knew you
were in the hallway because I heard you randomly blow the horn
.
Kids were just jumping because they were like what is going on?
It looks like I'm just drinking water and then you just hear a
horn out of nowhere.
So they don't even know it's me .
Speaker 2: That's a good way to stay hydrated too.
You're going to have fun and, you know, retain water.
That's excellent, we're not sponsored.
Speaker 3: We're not sponsored by Loud Cup, but I will tell you
, if you just like having fun, it's like under $20 or something
.
It's the best purchase I've made, probably in the last 10
years.
Speaker 2: Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Anthony, let's head it off to you, for me it really
hasn't been any craziness, or I haven't really had much going on
, except for, like this week at work.
We went through like that merger, like it's been that
first week, and so on Monday, when the the merger like
officially like kicked off, so on Monday, when the merger
officially kicked off, it was okay.
But on Tuesday, well, monday, because most of the bank was
closed, the only people that were there were the techs and
then all the new people coming on to the bank.
But then Tuesday, when the rest of the bank started working, it
was like all hell broke loose, dude, it was insane.
So yeah, tuesday was crazy, but the past couple days it kind of
mellowed out and today wasn't so bad.
But yeah, man, it was for for a good, like you know, day and a
half work was like pretty insane .
I ended up that day I stayed like an hour extra helping knock
out, like extra, you know, incidents that needed to be
helped with.
So yeah, man, that was a bit crazy.
Other than that, man, well, I I have been kind of going through
some anime that have been on my list or started, but like I
never finished, and one of those is kaiju number eight.
Dude, it's so good.
Speaker 2: Kaiju number eight so good, I actually wanted to
watch that it's really good is it like a one one season show?
Speaker 1: well, there's only one season right now, but there
is a second season.
I don't think it's.
No, it's not out yet, but it is on the way but, yeah, it's
really good.
I've been enjoying that a lot.
I'm caught up on my hero, academia vigilantes, and you
know, I mean obviously cowboy bebop, but yeah, it's been, yeah
, a lot of like anime watching.
And yeah, man, how about you, dakota?
What have you been up to?
Speaker 2: I have gotten like a lot of like personal projects
done, you know just random stuff around the house and other
obligations that I've, you know, been keeping up with and I've
basically got to a point where it's like all out of the way at
this point.
So it's kind of like a stress, a bunch of stress off of my
shoulders.
So I feel really good right now .
But as far as geeky stuff that I did this week or at least it
can count as geeky stuff I saw the new Lilo and Stitch live
action remake and that was better than I thought it was
going to be.
You know a lot of people were dogging it online.
Speaker 3: What.
For certain choices Wait people on the internet didn't like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the internet is a divisive place these days.
So weird, did so weird.
You could never really anticipate you know how it could
be the best movie in the world and then you see something
online that says, actually, you're a monster if you like
this movie.
There was a lot of that online and it wasn't half as bad as
people are making it out to be.
They do change one particular thing that might.
I'm not going to spoil it, but they do change one particular
thing about the way the movie resolves itself.
If you haven't seen the movie and you don't know the context
and you don't know how it actually resolves or if it's a
happy ending or not, you can interpret that as this is the
live action.
It happened to be the best possible resolution to
everything that they had introduced.
So that's what I'll say about that.
I liked the movie.
I thought it was cute.
It was exactly like the original movie, sans a couple
characters, and they gave a little bit more clarification to
some scenes and stuff.
There was some really touching moments, like really heartfelt
moments that well, I mean, we saw it opening weekend, so there
was a lot of families out and there's one scene where it looks
like a character's gonna die.
You know, they the there's a scene that it looks like a
character's gonna die and there was a kid crying hysterically
right behind us and the parents were like no, no, no, it's, it's
a kid's movie, it's going to be okay, kid was inconsolable soft
my generation.
Speaker 3: We went to go see bambi.
Spoiler alert baby's dad dies in the first and his mom dies in
the first 10 minutes.
So you were, you were born in the 40s well, no, the the.
I mean it must have been like 88, 89, the re-release.
Speaker 2: It was my first movie ever oh, okay, and I, I didn't
know I did in fact cry immediately, like I was, like
well, that's like the first five minutes of it.
It's, it's a really it's.
You know it's traumatic.
I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid.
But yeah, lilo and Stitch good time.
I recommend it if you are open-minded, I guess, to the
possibility of a potentially good live-action Disney movie,
because there's a lot of movies that I don't think deserve or
need a live-action remake and we've covered a couple of them
on the show.
You know I don't think Aladdin needed on the show.
You know I don't think aladdin needed to be remade, I don't
think mulan mulan.
Yeah, mulan's a strong case for not needing to be adapted.
It's a very unmemorable movie because I don't even remember
most of the live action remake.
The lion king was almost verbatim.
The original lion king that one wasn't good, it's I didn't like
even live action.
It's.
It's not even live action, it's just, it's an animated movie.
It just looks straight up cg yeah, but I would say that this
is probably one of the better of the live action disney remakes
up there for me, with beauty and the beast.
Beauty and the beast is one of my favorite disney movies, like
the original animate animated film, but the Beauty and the
Beast live action added certain songs that enhance the story and
I thought that that was really impressive.
Some of my favorite Beauty and the Beast songs are from the
live action.
Evermore and Days in the Sun and Evermore are like top tier
Disney songs and they are from a live action movie.
Yeah, so anyway, I think Beauty and the Beast dropped the ball,
I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you guys know top tier disney songs,
and they are from a live action movie.
Yeah, so anyway I think uh bs dropped the ball.
I mean I'm not sure if you guys know this, but I was chip in
the christmas play in seventh grade and they could have cast
me in that role again and they dropped the ball.
I'm not sure it's like me.
And then jonathan taylor thomas are just the most well-known
actors for that role for that role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was rooting for you.
I didn't.
I don't think I knew you at the time, but I saw your name on
like the list of like possibilities and I was just
like this guy's got the chops, literally the year before I was
aladdin.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I was just a disney guy, you know you were
that guy.
Speaker 2: You were that guy.
Crazy thought guys, should we jump into cowboy bebop?
Speaker 1: should we I.
Speaker 2: I don't think I had anything else like going on this
past week.
If I did, I do not remember.
But yeah, let's do it.
Let's jump into the discussion.
Rich, I want to tee back to what you were saying earlier.
You kind of mentioned that by the second half of the show you
had gone beyond just liking it.
You started to really love certain aspects of it.
How do you feel about the season as a whole, and do you
think you'll have to go back to it to fully grasp the whole of
it?
Speaker 3: I guess I think I'll have to go back.
I mean, it's just, I think that there's something that I love
about introductory pilot episodes to shows.
You know where they're, just where you, you are a little like
.
I'm okay with exposition in my first couple of episodes so that
I connect and then I'm able to grow or experience the rest of
the narrative alongside of the characters, if that kind of
makes sense.
And I've always I'm not saying always my experience with some
anime so far has been that it kind of just hits the ball
rolling and then, like, we'll catch you up as we go along and
I feel very disoriented and I can't, I don't like I remember
not.
I, I remember not.
I didn't care about Jet, I didn't care about Spike.
The person who I was first most interested in was Faye
Valentine, but it's because we met her, I was getting more
information about her.
It just was presented in a way that I like to digest stories,
where I Look just look Rich.
Speaker 1: We all had, at one point in our lives, had some
sort of interest towards faye.
Speaker 3: You know mine was, you know a younger age, but you
know she was, you know she is definitely created with fan
service in mind but she does have, like you know, an
interesting story though yeah, yeah, it's, I think, from in
terms of like finding out about the characters.
Obviously we do get more about jet and edward here and we get
more about spike, but I think that she was like the first
character that we got some more like it's like it made me want
to scratch the surface more, like what's going on there,
what's with this character, where the other two I just kind
of felt lost because I didn't feel like I was really
introduced to them, so like I won't and it's interesting I
won't say that then edward's my second favorite, right, it's not
because edward then comes in later when introduced.
I actually would say, if I'm ranking the characters, I'm
putting fey and then then jet, second actually for me by the
end of black dog syndicate, the episode where he he's with his
old partner.
Speaker 2: I think it's black dog yeah that, oh, that was such
a good episode.
Forget the name of the episode.
Speaker 3: We should pull up the episode list, just for the
pretty sure it's like black dog syndicate or something maybe I'm
confusing that with the red dawn?
I don't know red dawns, I'm crossing my wires.
I think that's han solo.
But yeah, as you look that up, I just found black dog, black
dog serenade.
There we go.
I knew it was an s sound, yeah, so it's just.
I think, like that episode gave me a lot about his character and
I just love the way it was laid out.
I mean, I don't know if I'm naive, but I didn't see that his
partner was at play the entire time and they know he was
playing him and and he was the original like.
I should have seen that coming, you know, like, but I just
enjoyed it so much that I kind of lost the ability to
analytically analyze story structure, which is what I do
for a living, and that's when I know I like something right,
when I stop analyzing it for like, oh, this is going to, this
has to happen next.
You know, I'm that guy who, when han was killed by kylo ren,
I gasped in the middle of the theater and I remember my friend
looked at me and said how are you surprised about this
development?
And I had tears streaming down my face, you know.
So by the end of this I was like when, when Ed and Ian walk
away.
I was like what is this for real?
Like I was getting, you know, I think as the series ended I was
kind of really sad that there wasn't more to it.
Speaker 1: Like you could tell that it was winding down, like
it felt like everything was coming to a head, like it was
like a lot of signs were pointing there.
There was a lot of you know the you know bounty of the week
still kind of going on, but there was still you know
underlying things that were kind of at work, that they were kind
of building up, and what were y'all's thoughts about you know
fay?
Fay is pretty much like a woman out of time.
You know.
She's like captain america.
She was frozen.
That's a good way.
Yeah, yeah I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for me I think that that was the point
in the show that it all really clicked for me was learning
about her origin, like waking up 50 years later, and I really
liked the.
I mean, as a timeline geek, I immediately like, okay, all
right, now I know where we are in the scheme of things.
You know, like I've seen dates like you know, like this
character was born in 2030, or something like that, but it
wasn't until they mentioned that she woke up in 2068.
And this was now three years later.
So the show takes place in 2071 .
And, yeah, I thought that that was a.
Really it helped me just start pinpointing like, okay, now, 50
years ago, so we're in 2071.
So 50 years ago, 2021 or 2022, the moon for some reason
collapses and destroys Earth and everything's changed ever since
.
You know, now Earth is just surrounded by asteroids and
stuff like that, droids and stuff like that.
So just that little bit of Faye's backstory helped me kind
of piece out the timeline or parse out the timeline, I should
say, in my head, and I liked that.
I liked it a lot.
It was really cool.
And, yeah, knowing that she wasn't always this like cold,
heartless bounty hunter is interesting because what
happened in those three years that you know?
She has decided that, like this is the person that she has to
be, because she doesn't remember the person that she was.
I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 3: Would you have hated it if the show started with her
on Earth right and then, like time, jumped to her in the
present?
Speaker 2: but then we find the video later I don't know that I
would have hated it, but I like the presentation the way that it
is because every character is mysterious as we first meet them
.
You know, like every character has a mysterious background that
we don't fully understand until pretty much the end of the
season and I feel like they would have been giving too much
right away yeah, even, even if not much was said.
Speaker 1: I think giving that would have been giving a little
bit too much and I think that that would have shifted like
maybe this, I guess, the setup of the show and it probably
would have still come out well, but maybe not as well as it did.
You know the fact that, like dakota said, like you know what
kind of keeps you going, is that mystique?
But then you're like, okay, well, I know that she's from
earth and you know it was very much obvious that, like when she
was on earth and the, when you saw that beta max, that you know
the earth, it didn't seem high tech as the world of Cowboy
Bebop does.
So it's like, okay, well, something happened.
But yeah, I agree with Dakota, the way that it was presented as
is, I prefer it that way.
Speaker 2: The show's presentation is a particularly
interesting one in the sense that it almost follows the same
logic that the first two Witcher novels employ.
Where the first two Witcher novels are just collections of
short stories that aren't in chronological order, they give
you a random short story with a moral, you know, backbone and
there's a little bit of a character arc that you can start
to piece together.
Okay, this is kind of where this character is coming from,
this is where they, this is their goal, this is where
they're headed and there's a little bit of foreshadowing as
to what's to come.
And that's that's what happens in the first two short story
collections for the Witcher.
For all intents and purposes, those are my favorite Witcher
stories bar none.
As soon as it gets into, like the long novels where Geralt
actually meets up with Yennefer and they start taking Ciri on,
it loses me because the mystique is gone and it's just narrative
storytelling.
At that point, and with Cowboy Bebop it never gets there
Because every episode is basically a short story.
It's a little bottle episode that gives you a piece of the
puzzle, and while it seems to be all in chronological order, it
doesn't necessarily need to be Like.
You could rearrange a couple of these episodes and you wouldn't
know that you wouldn't be any the wiser.
You know, and I think that that's a really cool method of
telling this story and ultimately, like thinking back
on everything as a whole, now that we've gotten all these
little pieces to the puzzle.
I think it's genius, Like whoever wrote this, whoever you
know spent the time and money to produce this.
Absolutely genius Like.
This was a really strong watch.
I'm really happy we did this.
Speaker 3: Rich.
What do you think?
So I mean, I think you're right .
I think a part of me, it's just the way I like to consume
narratives or stories.
I'm very much of a you know kind of more linear, with like
fewer flashbacks.
You know like I love lord of the rings.
There's almost nothing there and I know we know there are
references and things, but overall it's kind of just
straightforward.
I think I kind of like that a little bit more sometimes and I
think, just as a reader, as a watcher, the mysterious kind of
reveal along the way is something that's kind of.
I mean, we talked about it when we watched rings of power.
You know like I enjoyed it so much more when I knew who
everyone was, and it wasn't the.
You know the stranger is this guy and you know hal brand is
this guy, and I think it's just that.
That's probably just something.
That's probably a gripe I'm just gonna have when we go over
something and there's kind of this shroud of mystery on people
it's harder to get into, that's for sure, and and we were
experiencing that last week Like we didn't know, what to think.
Speaker 2: I recognize that this was art, but I didn't connect
with it fully last week.
I feel like if I dive into this more, I could become even a
bigger fan of whatever's going on with this show, because the
level of artistry on display, both in the writing, the
animation, the music choice, the sound choices and even just
like the pacing of how they introduce concepts and ideas to
you while also giving you very heavy sci fi concepts along with
it like there's a whole episode where you know downloading
one's consciousness into a digital world and how that was
causing like a mass suicide spike.
Fascinating concept and you know I've seen similar stuff in sci
fi before.
It's not an entirely new concept, but the way that it
incorporates into this universe is just so fun or maybe not fun
Fun's not probably the right word, but it's realistic and you
can feel that this is something that could happen in this
universe.
So, rich, you were mentioning earlier about the flashback to
the beta deck and the tape that Faye is delivered.
Do you find that that's a flashback or is it just that
she's experiencing this as new information in the moment?
Speaker 3: I know it's a narrative conceit and I know
it's still a flashback, but it makes it feel like less like a
flashback.
It's something about you know the footage being seen.
We're seeing it at the same time.
That didn't bother like I.
I liked it.
I giggled when they first took the you know the beta, beta
cassette out.
I remember looking at it and I immediately said that's not a
vhs, just from the kind of the outside box, like the, the front
of it it's smaller, it's just like a little more square, yeah,
so I was like I love that he was just ripping I know I was I
was like cringing inside, like no, don't do that I was dying.
Also, the gag that if they had just like stayed put they would
have gotten the betamax player is unbelievable.
Chef's kiss, just really good stuff I just enjoyed.
So when I realized it was a betamax, I immediately giggled
because I was like good luck finding something to play that
on.
You know like, and I know it's supposed to be really far in the
future, but you know, I think even now it's way easier to find
a vhs player if you wanted to, than a betamac.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, so, yeah, they exist, yeah, so, but so,
yeah, so when you were saying that I honestly I don't see this
moment as a flashback.
When I think of like a flashback, usually it's like a
complete cut or it's like somebody thinking back on that
moment, you know.
But the way that it was presented was that it was
presented like you know, kind of like in that video format, and
it was being presented as new information, whereas for me it
didn't feel so much as like a flashback in like the
traditional sense of a flashback .
Speaker 3: Fair.
I think that what I dislike sometimes is when flashback is
used for character development, whereas I'd rather the character
develop in front of me.
His or her current actions will then dictate who they are.
It doesn't always have to be what came before, but I think
that if I had known more about the other characters or like
overall, not knowing fey and her being mysterious, would have
been okay with me.
Know that it probably shouldn't start very linearly, but I
think I would have kind of liked to see that.
I just like to see how it would play out if it was rolled out
that way, if faye was, say, the only one who was really
mysterious.
Even jet we don't find out about his arm.
Until what is that?
Speaker 2: episode 21, 19 like it's yeah, it's, it's the black
Dog, sarah episode.
Speaker 3: So it's just there are all these important things.
And then the jump in technology , right, I mean, I imagine, yeah
, I guess, if I looked at media from 70 years ago, well, she's
no, I guess it would have been 60 years ago, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so 60 years ago yeah.
Speaker 3: And this is probably being picky, right, you know,
but I mean I wouldn't, I don't know.
Maybe my son, if he grabbed an eight track, would be like you
know what is and rolling the stuff out of it.
You know, I mean, spike is a little bit absent-minded and
kind of does some bonehead things along the way, so I guess
it's not completely out of character for him to immediately
destroy something before having any idea of what it is, you
know that's like in like movies or tv shows, where they're
reading a comic book, and like they'll like fold back the pages
and they'll just like flop it around and it's like in my head
Speaker 2: I'm like no, you're gonna crease it.
What are you doing?
Yes I I have owned hundreds of comic books.
I do not crease anything Like it's very, except for like the
first couple of things I read when I was a kid are like
damaged.
But I can't throw them out because you know sentimental
value.
Speaker 3: My wife bought me Hulk 181, the first appearance
of Wolverine.
I know if you're listening you're probably like well,
actually he appeared in the last panels of Hulk 180.
And you would be correct.
But his first full appearance was 181.
And we went to Comic-Con one year and she picked it up for me
and I brought it home and I could tell she was waiting for
me to take it out and read it right.
Speaker 2: Was it graded?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's not in the, it wasn't, it wasn't
slabbed, no, it wasn't graded, but I still.
I went and I downloaded it digitally and I started reading
it and she's like what are you doing?
and I'm like what's I can't open , that I was like that's like
the ark of the covenant, like that thing is staying there.
I have every issue from, like you know, that first appearance
to the entire first run of wolverine, and then volume two,
volume three, volume four, like basically up until the volumes
that just came out three years ago.
I had every single issue and I have them hermetically sealed
and I'll never open them.
You know so that would be me.
Speaker 1: That would be me if I had like an action comics
number one in front of me like I'd be like I'm not even like,
I'm not even like going to like glance at this thing.
Speaker 2: It might burst into flames yeah, well, we were sorry
, I derailed that conversation, oh it came.
Speaker 1: It derailed from the beta max.
That uh yeah, that uh spike destroyed.
Speaker 2: How we treat analog content and I like that they do
separate the current time of 2071 from the more analog time
of, like the early 21st century.
And yeah, it's.
I think that the progression of technology is probably a little
bit crazier than will actually exist in our timeline, but I do
like the vision, like the idea of how life is going to be like.
I mean, even if we watch like blade runner in 2019, la looks
like the most crazy, like futuristic society, but
obviously 2019 la just looks like la.
Speaker 1: Right.
Same thing could be said about Back to the Future 2015.
Back to the Future 2.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was like wait Back to the Future, 2015.
What?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like how they made 2015 look super
futuristic.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what you meant, yeah.
Speaker 1: None of that technology exists.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was a good point.
Speaker 1: Shoot even Space Odyssey 2001.
That's a good one too.
Yeah, so I mean the technological creep isn't as
years ago didn't expect us to be as technologically savvy with
stuff like smartphones and computers and stuff like that no
, no, yeah, I didn't like, even like a lot of them had like
video calling, but it looked so old school, like the depiction
of like a futuristic like video calling, except except for maybe
Star Wars, whereas they have the holograms.
We have not really made it to that point yet.
I mean, holograms kind of exist , but it's really an illusion
type thing, not where it's something that's really being
projected right in front of us.
Speaker 2: So, anthony, we heard Rich's favorite characters
ranked.
How do you rank the characters, or at least their backstories?
Speaker 1: So, as far as the backstories, I mean, I like Jet
a lot.
I really feel like he's got a lot of heart.
You know he's that.
He's that character that, like you know, he'll say, like you
know, go do what you want, I don't care, but then he'll have
their backs, you know.
And so I really like him a lot.
I would say that honestly, tell you truth, like, oh man,
backstory wise, maybe like jet, you know, jet face spike and
edward.
But then, like, if I said likability, I would say I would
say edward, jet and spike and fay, like live on that same line
because they're practically two sides of the same coin wait,
what do you mean?
Speaker 2: like?
In likability, like you know like they're all the same or
what do you mean?
Speaker 1: no, I'm saying likability, like that.
You like them, you know like yeah you enjoy them.
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: So how would you rank them on a basis of like, liking
them?
Speaker 1: That's what I Edward.
So Edward, jet, and then Faye and Spike are on the same line
because they're like the same person.
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying oh okay, I see what
you're saying.
Oh okay, all right, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, yeah Okay.
So you're a big Ed fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess Ed and Jet are interchangeable
for me Because they're really like you know, they have lovable
personalities and Ed kind of injects that childlike humor
into it.
I really enjoyed the whole chess episode.
Was that last week, or was that this set of episodes?
I don't remember the chess episode.
Yeah, no week, or is that this set?
Speaker 2: of episodes I don't remember.
Was it both?
The chess episode?
Speaker 1: yeah no, it was this week.
Yeah, but I think it was.
Was it bohemian rhapsody that?
Yes, so it was the first episode that we, yes, watch yeah
, so I really liked that one that they had, like that chess
master and like ed was playing like the same game for like that
entire time.
Speaker 2: It was for such a long time and I like that.
The chess master was, just like this guy's, either a genius or
an idiot.
Yeah, yeah, I love that and it's probably a bit of both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know absolutely, but yeah, no, I
would say like ed and jed are like interchangeable, whereas
fey and spike are like kind of the same because they get on
each other's nerves.
But I think that's because they're very similar right.
Speaker 2: I liked the ed episode mushroom samba because
it was mostly an ed and ein episode there wasn't much going
on with the other characters besides, like they were hungry,
but for the most part it was just ed and ein on an adventure
and I was laughing my butt off.
Yeah, me too like yeah some of the animations they like
whenever they had Ed running and she's just like flailing her
arms in the background.
It's such a funny idea.
It's like I forget the name of those monkeys, but like if you
ever see like certain like lanky monkeys run.
They keep their hands in the air because their arms are too
long and they would hit the ground.
It looked like that was really fun.
Speaker 1: I like that episode too.
That one was hilarious then like the whole like train
sequence was like hilarious with them yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And again, it's just beautiful animation throughout,
like they don't skimp on it ever in this show, and even like
smaller scale episodes like this one feel impactful and feel
worthy of your time and I think that that's.
That's really fun.
Were there any episodes?
Really quick, rich.
We were talking about certain episodes that we liked about Ayn
, specifically like the Bohemian Rhapsody episode with the chess
master, as well as the mushroom episode with Ayn and Ed.
What are your thoughts on those so?
Speaker 3: the Bohemian Rhapsody .
I really enjoyed that one, but I think that for me, the
mushroom one was oh, it's perfect.
I don't know if it's so.
We know he eats the mushroom and he starts hopping right away
.
You know, that's where we get a little bit more of Ed here as
well.
Just how the three of them are, you know, jet, spike and Faye
are just all tripping out on the oh my gosh, that was so funny.
Speaker 2: The idea of just pretending, or like thinking,
that he's going up these stairs that are like never ending is
such a funny visual and they actually visualize like he's
just slightly stepping up and down on the same step.
Speaker 3: but I think my favorite, and it's because I've
seen people come to the conclusion that they've solved
the mysteries of life, you know, so what?
Speaker 2: oh, my favorite line.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was jet sitting there going oh that's it
, I figured it out, figure what life's all about.
And I've heard people in the same state say the same exact
sentence.
You know, like, yeah, you know we broke the code.
You know, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, you broke the code.
So when I heard him say it, I'll just say that it felt like
they definitely consulted with someone on that episode, right,
who had taken some kind of magic mushrooms, I think, and they
were like I wouldn't doubt the writers of the show to have, you
know, gone on that trip themselves.
Speaker 2: Because the thing with good science fiction that
you don't see a lot today is life experience.
And I think that when you like, just using Star Trek as an
example, you have classic Star Trek.
You know the 60s stuff, but specifically the stuff in the
80s and 90s felt very grounded.
Every episode had a purpose, every episode had a morality and
it felt like the writers had lived experience.
The writers had lived experience.
Fast forward to Picard and Discovery, like the newer Star
Trek shows.
I'm not saying that they're bad .
Well, I am saying Picard is bad , but I'm not saying that the
other shows are bad.
Picard was terrible.
I quit YouTube for three months after Picard.
I was in such a depression because he's my favorite
character Anyway.
But you just don't have the same lived experience in writers
these days and sometimes it really shows.
And I think with a show like Cowboy Bebop, I'm not saying
that they, you know, had gang affiliations or they were in
shootouts constantly, but the level of writing indicated that
they were world weary people.
They had experience that they wanted to impart onto viewers.
Speaker 1: So I think that that's something I take away
from at least the mushroom episode I mean, you can also
tell that, like you know just watching this from beginning to
end, that this anime was expensive yeah, the level of
animation.
Speaker 2: You could just you see it in every episode.
It's just like this was made in the 90s.
Everything was made by hand.
There was no computer generation here there was a
little bit of computer generation, but it was like you
could see when it was computer generated.
But what I mean is like, like you're saying, anthony,
everything was hand drawn and it took time.
Yeah, yeah, well, and then that that's why, like you're saying,
Anthony, everything was hand-drawn and it took time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, and then that that's why, like you
know, last week I was kind of saying that, like you know,
there's aspects of it that you can tell that it's a 90s anime,
but there's also a lot of it that makes it look different
than the rest of what came out during that time.
You know, you can compare the animation of, like Dragon Ball Z
and you know, sailor Moon with, maybe like Yu Yu Hakusho, but
you can't compare the animation of Dragon Ball Z and Cowboy
Bebop because they look different.
You know that it's anime and it does have like the vibes of a
90s anime, but it looks way better than anything that came
out or very I would say it's like one of the top things that
came out around that time as far as animation and especially
writing yeah rich.
Speaker 2: Did you find anything like uh impressive about the
animation style or anything that stood out to you about that?
Speaker 3: granted, it was produced a lot, you know, many
years ago, even just uh, it's it's not as crisp, obviously, as
things that come out now.
But I think I mentioned this last episode as well.
I really appreciate that.
I don't think there's any.
They don't take any of those animation shortcuts where you
know they're walking down a similar hallway or they're
running in the same way or anything like that, like even
when they when they reuse the same locales, or you know, even
on the bebop or anything like that.
To my knowledge I don't think there's any kind of similarity
at all, almost in.
They don't take any of those shortcuts where it just seems
like it's like that stock scene or whatever that they can kind
of keep dropping into every episode, and I thought that
that's something yeah, that's, it's.
It's not spider-man swinging, but like next to the same
buildings constantly you know, and I I definitely experienced
lots of animation, and not just anime, right, just lots of
animation that was lazy like that, you know, and it would
reuse things over and over again .
I mean he-man, the master's universe, right, it's like, or
even like thundercats were two prime examples of shows that
just re wildly popular but just reused the same stills probably
like 17, 18 times throughout the season, and I really appreciate
that Kobo Ibibop didn't do that .
The music is definitely obviously a special part of it
and I think that I don't really have an appreciation for that
style of music, but I think that the way they chose it, the
songs they chose and their placement was excellently done
and what I find interesting is that the music didn't feel dated
.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you listen to 90s music and it
sounds like 90s music, you know yeah there's a lot of music in
this that I'd be like.
This sounds contemporary.
I don't understand how all of these I mean mean some of the
more jazzy tunes, like the song at the end.
What's it called?
The song that's at the end of every episode, the real?
Speaker 1: folk blues.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's probably the most dated sounding of them
because of the way that it's sung.
Speaker 1: It's so good, though For the most part no it's been
stuck in my head all week week.
But yeah, I'm looking at how long it took to animate this and
how expensive it was it was, and the the thing that I love
that they did was because that outro track, the real folk blues
that's how they named the last two episodes of the series that
same and I was like dude it just and they they actually fit it
in during, uh, one of the episodes and I saw that, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: They definitely did and like, dude, like how insane
was it was like fey and spike were like in the middle of like
a space battle and they had this beautiful music playing on the
backdrop and it just it fit so well in that moment, like it was
music that wouldn't normally fit within a, you know, a battle
like that, but it fit so well with the theme of that show,
like you're so used to watching the show and how they fit this
music in that it just felt so natural in that moment that's a
really good point and I that that harkens back to like what I
was trying to get at last week.
Speaker 2: Even there's scenes where it has a juxtaposition
between action and very mellow, I should say, or melodic music
that you wouldn't necessarily put on something like that.
A lot of times you would put something a little bit more
energetic, but it almost causes you to like hold your breath
because it's it's sounds like something's about to happen and
it's a it's a real, just genuinely cool way to
incorporate music into it.
So really quick.
Anthony, you said that it was expensive and that you know it
must have taken a long time.
It took about two years to animate this season, which is a
very long time for you know anime for because an episode's
usually like four weeks all together and usually they're not
four weeks consecutively.
You know like they're overlapped.
You know like you have different teams working on
different animations, but the estimated cost at the time was
around 300 to 500 000 us dollars , and the average at the time,
you know, for other anime that inflated was no, that's that's.
That's the average cost.
Speaker 1: The time 300 000 to 500 000 that's a lot of money
for the 90s dude.
Speaker 2: So I can imagine inflated.
Most anime in that era costs about 100 to 250 per episode,
250 000 per episode.
Speaker 1: So this is what almost half a million gets you
as far as animation in that time period.
And it shows yeah yeah, that would.
Speaker 2: It would be like well over a million in today's
buckaroos, but yeah, I loved it guys.
Yeah, this was a really like incredible show so.
Speaker 1: So yeah, in the first part of the, in part one, we
get a little bit of a.
You know, we talked a little bit of the standoff between
Spike and Vicious, whereas in this one we finally get like
that last standoff between Spike and Vicious.
What were y'all's thought about that?
You know, spike finally got julia, came back into his life
and then he lost her.
And you know, was it buddy?
It was a gin gin's brother.
Speaker 2: It was like lynn's brother chin.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's what it was um you know he, you
know he got gunned down right in front of him like all these
people were getting gunned down right in front of him, like all
these people were getting gunned down right in front of him.
And yeah, he finally like gets that last standoff with Vicious.
I want to know what y'all thought about that.
Speaker 2: The idea of the Red Serpent Centicate is touched
upon earlier in the season.
We kind of get the idea that Jet, or Spike rather, has
absolved himself of that lifestyle.
He's no longer doing that.
He's a bounty hunter now.
But we, you know, last week we talked about he has a past with
this girl, julia.
He has a past with this guy, vicious.
We're not really sure what the past is and I think I still need
to rewatch it to fully grasp what is their past, because
again, it's given to us in fragmented roles and we're only
told part of the story.
I think.
You know, I think we're meant to be a little bit in the dark
as to what happened between points a, b, c through z, you
know, like I think they give us just enough so that we're coming
into the movie halfway.
And that was probably my biggest gripe last week was that
I want to know more about Spike .
He seems like he's the main character, at least in the first
half of the show.
He seems like he's the primary character and all of these other
characters just kind of revolve around him.
But it kind of got to the point where each episode revolved
around a different character, you know, by the second half of
the show.
You had a couple EPs for Ed, you had a couple EPs for Faye,
you had a couple EPs for Jet and Spike actually probably had the
least episodes in the last half , except for, you know, the
finale was all about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they capped it off with him.
Speaker 2: So to you know my roundabout way of saying I think
I really liked the amount that we are given and it makes me
want to go back to see if I missed something, because I'm
sure I missed something.
I wasn't fully emotionally invested into the story, enough
for me to grasp every single nuanced line or flashback image
or whatever.
But now that I know that the basic gist is spike used to work
for the red serpent syndicate.
He broke it off when he found julia.
He he loved julia.
He was somehow found by vicious and you know they rekindled old
hatreds or something and spike's just kind of been aloof
and on the run from the syndicate ever since and he's
just trying to steer clear of them and now it's too late
because of the coup and vicious clearly wants everyone dead so
he also.
Speaker 3: He faked his.
If I remember correctly, he had faked his death spike.
Yeah, he fakes his.
If I remember correctly, he had faked his death Spike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he fakes his death.
I think it's that scene.
Speaker 3: I remember him being at the store earlier, maybe in
the second or third, like very early on, where he's talking to
like a shopkeeper who says, like you know now, basically they're
going to know that you're alive now.
I think that's how he gets discovered.
Speaker 1: Am I right?
They're gonna know that you're alive now.
I think that's how he gets discovered, am I right?
Anthony was it?
Yeah, he does.
He did fake his death.
Speaker 3: He made that promise to julia that he's pretty much
done with the syndicate and but julia's in the syndicate too.
Speaker 1: She's interpreting her, her, her like relationship
is kind of complicated in the sense that like she's kind of
straddled between spike and vicious, but not like romantic.
It's just weird how she's kind of wedged in there.
He's like she's like the because he asks her.
Speaker 3: He confronts her, he's like the.
Speaker 1: He's like the obstacle between the syndicate
life and then like the life that he wants to live with julia.
Speaker 2: But julia obviously like she's kind of ingrained a
little bit into that because of, you know, spike's previous life
yeah, they don't give us enough information about how she was
specifically involved in the syndicate, but at some point I
don't know if there was like a bonnie and clyde moment with
spike and her, where they were both in the syndicate briefly or
, you know, if she did smuggling runs or something we don't, we
kind of reminds me of Kira from Solo where we just have that gap
and that lack of information.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about you, but like I wanted to know
what happened to Kira in that time, it would have made a
little bit more sense how she went from being caught by the
Imperials.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know there's certain things that were, you
know kind of, I guess, left out for interpretation in a way fair
.
Speaker 3: I, you know, I've I've kind of said it before,
it's just I like to know, I like to for lack of a better term I
like to download all the information I can on everybody
and look, it's an authorial choice, right?
Or director's choice, whatever the creator's choice how much
information they give us about a character.
You know and I think I'm just greedy I just always want more,
more and more.
It did.
I'm not sure if this is where dakota was going with it, but it
did feel a little bit like he wasn't the main and it was
almost.
I don't want to say it was out of place that the last two
episodes were so centered on Spike.
But I'm not sure and, like I said, maybe I agree with Dakota,
maybe I have to go back and rewatch it and then kind of
piece it together a little bit more, but he always felt like
the main, but he did feel like the character that we had the
least amount of information about, and I don't want to say
that I didn't believe his love for Julia, but I don't know how
to put this if he's supposed to be the main character he's like
a pseudo main character.
Yeah I don't know why.
I don't know why he loves julia other than she's a pretty
blonde girl I think it represented normalcy for him.
Speaker 1: I think it represented a normal life, and
the idea of her was what kept him going, because one day he
wanted to settle down and yeah, and a lot of times, like in the
last couple episodes, they mentioned something along the
lines of let's just run away and , you know, stop all this yeah
but obviously you can't run away from your past, not when your
past is the red serpent, syndicate and vicious, you know,
trying to kill you yeah, and then what I thought it was so
crazy also with the whole setup, that vicious did, like you know
, kind of like taking down those like heads with um yeah, that
was interesting.
Yeah, that was kind of cool that bird that he usually would
have with them like kind of secretly like, or had it had
like explosives and then dropped down like smoke bombs.
Speaker 2: That was insane man what did you guys think of ein
leaving or ein and ed?
Speaker 3: I should say I mean so ed was so close to reuniting
with her father and I'm not sure if we're supposed to understand
that ed is going to find her father.
I don't think that was the case .
It seemed like just wanted to break out on her own.
I guess I get I'm wanting to go with her, but it did feel like
it was all.
I mean, that felt like the unwinding, the, uh, the what is
it?
There's the line from greek aspie.
It was like the end of the convent, canvasary or something
like that, and it's kind of like the wheels are falling off
right and like everyone's splitting town and I guess I get
it, but I I thought there was more.
I don't want to call them a crew, like a, like a spaceship
crew, for sure, but I thought they were more of a team than
like these, just basically Irish goodbyes.
You know, like all right, I'm out, like I know that that's
kind of part of Faye's character where she has this idea that
I'm not sure if it's attention seeking in terms of like she
wants to see if they care.
So she's like I'm gonna leave and see if anybody notices or if
you know, she's kind of trying to get ahead of them, not
wanting her around anymore, like psychologically.
I don't know where I fall on her motivations for that, but ed
leaving was just as mysterious as ed joining, almost like you
know it's like what you're gone he was just there for the
rockers.
Speaker 2: I keep saying he.
Speaker 3: Well then, at the end of the show then but then the
father is talking about his son, so I think ed is supposed to be
non-binary androgynous yes non-binary right, like it's not
surprising that ed's father would not acknowledge Ed's
non-binary-ness for lack of a better term Existence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ed is a biological girl, because the
name that his father gives her is I forget the name, but it was
female Francois.
Was it Francois?
Speaker 3: Francois, yeah, was it.
Speaker 2: Francois.
Yeah, it was Francois yeah, was it Francois.
I would say that's feminine.
Speaker 3: Well, it's French, so I just could you know.
Yeah, I'm not sure, actually I'd have to look that up,
francois, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the name Francois is primarily a female
name a French origin.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: But you're right, he wasn't sure if it was a son or a
daughter, but I took, I interpreted that not as a gender
affirming thing, one way or the other.
I just think that he was so aloof and in his own head that
the fact that he forgot his you know daughter existed for like
years is proof that, like this wasn't a good father ever, you
know, like he, he didn't care one way or the other well, I
mean, you saw how he like took off, just like right then, and
there oh yeah, without, without a thought in his head.
You know, like work called and he was off, so I don't think
that ed was going to visit her father, but I think that ed's
time with the crew had ended.
You know, it was almost like a hitchhiker and they were back
home, but I was a little bit hurt when I left.
I was just like no, no, no, go back.
Speaker 1: There's food there yeah, well, I mean, like over
time it kind of you saw that bond between ed and I kind of
develop and nobody else like really cared for for Ein except
for maybe Jet.
Jet made sure that that Ein was like fed.
But I mean you know that whole instance of and it was in the
episodes from last week where Faye goes in the fridge and
takes the dog food and like eats the dog food.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, yeah, so I will say that I'm
happy that Ed is not alone.
Speaker 1: Ed has a friend.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anything else we want to bring up before we bring
this to a close.
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty good, you know.
I think that with pretty much the information that's presented
in Cowboy Bebop is.
You know, there's a lot more that could be broken down, but
like we would have to turn into a cowboy bebop podcast, and
really dive into that we literally could do an episode on
each of the episodes.
Speaker 2: Just that's how much is present within the show, but
obviously we got bigger fish to fry, my friends yeah, just go
over to geek critique and dakota will set up a timeline for
cowboy bebop.
Y'all can head that way I got a bunch of timelines on the
docket I I did consider it briefly, I was just like okay I
figured it out, I can make this.
And then I realized I was gonna be a 20 30 minute video, maybe
one day.
But before we close, I just you meant you guys were mentioning
Jet and I don't think I got a word in on on Jet's backstory.
I just love the idea that he's like he was always too good,
even for the police.
You know, he was an IS, issp or something like that yeah, issp,
and he was too good for the force, and he was an ISSP or
something like that, yeah, issp, and he was too good for the
force and he was the only one who was uncorruptible.
But he's the one that left the force and you know he's seen as
like a vigilante, almost slash, bounty hunter, that like kind of
plays outside the rules.
But he's still the one with the moral compass and I think that
at the end, the fact that his partner was the one with the
moral compass and I think that at the end, the fact that his
partner was the one who betrayed him and even almost tried
killing him at the end to get rid of the evidence I'm assuming
yeah and it seemed as if he wasn't going to tell the issp
what really went down.
He was just gonna take that to the grave.
You know, like this guy had his noble ends and that's it, you
know yeah, he was the whole reason why jet lost his arm too
I know, yeah, what a jerk, but jets, jets, the real one.
Guys, thank you so much for listening to us here for our
122nd episode.
Yes, 122nd episode.
What are we covering next week?
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Like Spike viewers, this will remain a mystery.
You'll have to tune in next week to find out.
Speaker 2: I actually Would you guys want to do the new Captain
America movie that's on Disney.
Speaker 3: Plus now, yeah, I'll totally do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do that.
Speaker 2: I think it would be kind of brave I haven't seen it,
it would be brave of us to do so all right, guys, next week
we're gonna do something extremely brave.
We're covering captain america 4 quattro.
Brave new world, previously known as new world order.
I get the names confused all the time online.
It's just stuck in my head as Captain America New World Order.
But yeah, we're gonna cover Brave New World for episode 123
of Project Ecology.
So be there or be square Guys.
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Speaker 1: Any last thoughts on cowboy bebop gentlemen if y'all
have not seenbop, you need to watch it right now.
Stop what you are doing and go watch it right now.
Speaker 2: And if you have, we spoiled everything but watch it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean.
Look, you could still enjoy it even with everything we talked
about.
And if you have seen it and you haven't seen it in a while go
back and watch it.
Speaker 2: This is your wake-up call.
Go watch cowboy view up again, or for the first time, rich.
Speaker 3: Last thoughts you guys done it again.
You took a genre that I previously did not dip my toe
into and you found something that I can honestly say.
If you guys are not normally fans of anime, this is something
different and it is something you should take a look at, and I
think that you will enjoy.
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, folks.
Actually, you've probably heard it elsewhere before.
But you've heard it here third or fourth Tune in next week for
Captain America Brave New World and we'll hear from you next
week you're gonna carry that weight see you space samurai.