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Speaker 1: Okay, three, two, one
, let's jam.

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Welcome to episode 122 of
Project Geekology, and this week

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we are covering the last half
of Cowboy Bebop, so from

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episodes 14 to 26.

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I am one third of your host,
anthony, and joining me, as

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always, is Dakota and I that
intro three, two, one, let's jam

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good.

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Speaker 2: Good job with that
one.

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And yeah, we're joined, as
always, with.

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Speaker 3: Rich super excited to
talk about the second half of

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Cowboy Bebop this week, guys
honestly, this show is

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tremendous.

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Speaker 2: Like I would gladly
pick up like a Cowboy Bebop like

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podcast and just listen episode
by episode.

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Like people who like know the
show in and out, I'd love to

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like hear all that they have to
say about it.

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Because as I'm watching it,
like the further I got into the

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season, the more I started
loving the show.

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Like every episode was starting
to get incredibly good and I

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wonder, if I go back, will I
enjoy the episodes even more?

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Like starting from scratch
again and I'm debating it

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because it's really tremendous.

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Speaker 1: It's really
spectacular show.

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Speaker 3: That's why, like I
mean, you see why I go back

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periodically to watch it it's
funny that you say that, dakota,

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that you said that because I I
would say that like I started to

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like it way more the second
half of last I'll say last

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week's episode.

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So I don't know, let's say
starting maybe episode five, six

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, you know, like it started
sounding a build for me and then

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I really liked this second half
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I don't know if that's the old
man in me that needs to watch

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everything twice to enjoy it
more, because I'm kind of

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unpacking things and and hearing
references to things and

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whatever, but maybe it's because
they had a beta max and this

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half of the season that happened
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actually you know, I, I really,
and I also liked finding about

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more about the characters.

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I think it was less flashbacky
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look is a video of your past
flashing back, yes, but at least

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I can.

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I feel like it's in the moment
still in some weird way.

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So Because it's new.

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Speaker 2: It's new to the
character?

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Yes, but you know what?

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We'll get into all of that and
more.

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I'm glad you liked it, rich, I
loved it.

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And Anthony, we know you've
seen it before a couple of times

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.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you like
it, it's in, like my top man,

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it's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump into what
we've been up to this past week.

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Rich, I'm going to head it to
you, whoa?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's terrible
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The Mets have been home for
9,000 days, so I've been going

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to about 9,000 games.

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No, they have a really long
homestand, which isn't often the

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case.

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Let's just put it this way.

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In the last my I just looked at
my apple watch I got an update

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that my steps for this last
month have dramatically

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increased.

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And uh, my friend, I actually
got some messages this week

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about some people saying like
whoa, you've really been walking

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a lot and exercising.

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And I'm like no, I just am too
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and and I park a mile away.

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It's been fun going there,
school's kind of like, in this

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weird wind down mode, so it's
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but it's a little bit of a slog
as the kids see daylight.

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So just kind of been doing that
, still been grinding MLB the

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show to the point where I think
I'm almost a little bored.

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I think it needs a little bit
something, or maybe I need a

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little bit of a break.

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I think I think I'm getting
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restarting Red Dead.

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I've been looking at some.

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I don't know how, but I mean I
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Red Dead.

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So now I just get these random
posts from groups that I'm not

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in about Red Dead Redemption 2.

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It's just like this is a great
spot to find a quail.

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You know.

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Just be there at six in the
morning and all this talk about

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hunting has gotten my manly
blood up and boiling.

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I need to kill some things and
skin them and bring them to the

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guy who buys this stuff.

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I forgot the name because I see
it in Spanish, so I don't see

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it in English the fur trapper.

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I guess I'm forgetting.

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It's pelilletera in Spanish, so
I play with the game in Spanish

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, which makes it that much
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Speaker 2: Wait, do you actually
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You play in Spanish.

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My PlayStation is in Spanish.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, everything,
everything is in Spanish.

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My PlayStation, yeah.

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I mean, the only time I've ever
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is that Fallout, all right.

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So, because of the way spanish
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fallout in terms of, like the
upgraded armor for the I forget

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what the names of the suits are,
now the I can't remember the

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suits the power armor, power
armors, right.

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When it's the way it's, it's
written in spanish.

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It's impossible to go through
the list.

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It's really hard because
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nor normally the, the, like the
descriptors in front, and it

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makes more sense.

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It's like at the end of the of
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So it's a little bit more
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But, yeah, I try to do it
because that way I'll I'm gonna

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say this weird thing and I'll
pass it off to anthony.

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Basically, I've learned so much
Spanish playing Skyrim and

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Fallout because I've learned the
names of things that I would

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have never even thought to look
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But now I found out because I,
you know, I know I learned more

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fruits and vegetables, the names
for monsters and things and

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swords and different implements,
and it's definitely, I think, a

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more enjoyable way of learning
the language for me.

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Speaker 2: I like that a lot.

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I had never considered doing
something like that.

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You know, I've considered like
reading books in Spanish, but I

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think that's too heavy, too
quick and it's not engaging

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enough for someone who doesn't
know Spanish.

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Well, I can hear Spanish and I
can understand it, but yeah, I

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think if I had to play a game,
an immersive game, like you know

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a whole world, like that, that
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I'm telling you, man, teach
Spanish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's
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PlayStation.

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The only thing I really don't
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just because, for work purposes
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or whatever, I keep that one in
english, but it's a lifestyle

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choice.

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Oh, I forgot the most exciting
news of the week, guys.

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So I'm scrolling on instagram
and there's this coffee mug,

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slash water bottle and it's
called the loud cup.

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I'm like, why would it be
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well, I don't know it has a
built-in like fog horn, like a

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voo-voo zella type horn.

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Whoa right.

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Speaker 2: Why would anyone need
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Uh, so let's say you're.

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Speaker 3: You know you're at
your local sporting event and

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you know you want to root your
team on and you want to make

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sure everyone hears you.

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But you know you're far away,
you know, so you're just like,

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and I I bought that to work.

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I bought that to work.

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Today I started every class by
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I went into people's classrooms
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the main office, and I would
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just go man, I'm really thirsty
and then take a sip and then

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switch it to the other side and
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It was, honestly, this sounds
dumb, but it's one of the most

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fun days I think I've had at
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It had nothing to do with
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disrupting.

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At one point Jen came around
the corner and said I knew you

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were in the hallway because I
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Kids were just jumping because
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It looks like I'm just drinking
water and then you just hear a

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horn out of nowhere.

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So they don't even know it's me
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Speaker 2: That's a good way to
stay hydrated too.

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You're going to have fun and,
you know, retain water.

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That's excellent, we're not
sponsored.

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Speaker 3: We're not sponsored
by Loud Cup, but I will tell you

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, if you just like having fun,
it's like under $20 or something

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It's the best purchase I've
made, probably in the last 10

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years.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Anthony, let's head
it off to you, for me it really

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hasn't been any craziness, or I
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, except for, like this week at
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We went through like that
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first week, and so on Monday,
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officially like kicked off, so
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officially kicked off, it was
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But on Tuesday, well, monday,
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closed, the only people that
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then all the new people coming
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But then Tuesday, when the rest
of the bank started working, it

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was like all hell broke loose,
dude, it was insane.

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So yeah, tuesday was crazy, but
the past couple days it kind of

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mellowed out and today wasn't so
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But yeah, man, it was for for a
good, like you know, day and a

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half work was like pretty insane
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I ended up that day I stayed
like an hour extra helping knock

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out, like extra, you know,
incidents that needed to be

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helped with.

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So yeah, man, that was a bit
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Other than that, man, well, I I
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some anime that have been on my
list or started, but like I

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never finished, and one of those
is kaiju number eight.

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Dude, it's so good.

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Speaker 2: Kaiju number eight so
good, I actually wanted to

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watch that it's really good is
it like a one one season show?

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Speaker 1: well, there's only
one season right now, but there

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is a second season.

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I don't think it's.

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No, it's not out yet, but it is
on the way but, yeah, it's

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really good.

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I've been enjoying that a lot.

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I'm caught up on my hero,
academia vigilantes, and you

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know, I mean obviously cowboy
bebop, but yeah, it's been, yeah

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, a lot of like anime watching.

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And yeah, man, how about you,
dakota?

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What have you been up to?

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Speaker 2: I have gotten like a
lot of like personal projects

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done, you know just random stuff
around the house and other

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obligations that I've, you know,
been keeping up with and I've

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basically got to a point where
it's like all out of the way at

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this point.

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So it's kind of like a stress,
a bunch of stress off of my

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shoulders.

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So I feel really good right now
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But as far as geeky stuff that
I did this week or at least it

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can count as geeky stuff I saw
the new Lilo and Stitch live

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action remake and that was
better than I thought it was

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going to be.

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You know a lot of people were
dogging it online.

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Speaker 3: What.

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For certain choices Wait people
on the internet didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the internet is
a divisive place these days.

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So weird, did so weird.

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You could never really
anticipate you know how it could

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be the best movie in the world
and then you see something

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online that says, actually,
you're a monster if you like

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this movie.

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There was a lot of that online
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people are making it out to be.

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I'm not going to spoil it, but
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thing about the way the movie
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and you don't know how it
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happy ending or not, you can
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live action.

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It happened to be the best
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everything that they had
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So that's what I'll say about
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I liked the movie.

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I thought it was cute.

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It was exactly like the
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characters, and they gave a
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some scenes and stuff.

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moments, like really heartfelt

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moments that well, I mean, we
saw it opening weekend, so there

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was a lot of families out and
there's one scene where it looks

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like a character's gonna die.

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scene that it looks like a

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character's gonna die and there
was a kid crying hysterically

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right behind us and the parents
were like no, no, no, it's, it's

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a kid's movie, it's going to be
okay, kid was inconsolable soft

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my generation.

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Speaker 3: We went to go see
bambi.

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Spoiler alert baby's dad dies
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the first 10 minutes.

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So you were, you were born in
the 40s well, no, the the.

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I mean it must have been like
88, 89, the re-release.

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Speaker 2: It was my first movie
ever oh, okay, and I, I didn't

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know I did in fact cry
immediately, like I was, like

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well, that's like the first five
minutes of it.

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It's, it's a really it's.

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You know it's traumatic.

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I haven't seen that movie since
I was a kid.

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But yeah, lilo and Stitch good
time.

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I recommend it if you are
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possibility of a potentially
good live-action Disney movie,

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because there's a lot of movies
that I don't think deserve or

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need a live-action remake and
we've covered a couple of them

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on the show.

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You know I don't think Aladdin
needed on the show.

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You know I don't think aladdin
needed to be remade, I don't

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think mulan mulan.

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Yeah, mulan's a strong case for
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It's a very unmemorable movie
because I don't even remember

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most of the live action remake.

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The lion king was almost
verbatim.

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The original lion king that one
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even live action.

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It's not even live action, it's
just, it's an animated movie.

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It just looks straight up cg
yeah, but I would say that this

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is probably one of the better of
the live action disney remakes

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up there for me, with beauty and
the beast.

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Beauty and the beast is one of
my favorite disney movies, like

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the original animate animated
film, but the Beauty and the

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Beast live action added certain
songs that enhance the story and

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I thought that that was really
impressive.

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Some of my favorite Beauty and
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live action.

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Evermore and Days in the Sun
and Evermore are like top tier

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Disney songs and they are from a
live action movie.

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Yeah, so anyway, I think Beauty
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you
guys know top tier disney songs,

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and they are from a live action
movie.

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Yeah, so anyway I think uh bs
dropped the ball.

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I mean I'm not sure if you guys
know this, but I was chip in

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the christmas play in seventh
grade and they could have cast

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me in that role again and they
dropped the ball.

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I'm not sure it's like me.

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And then jonathan taylor thomas
are just the most well-known

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actors for that role for that
role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was rooting
for you.

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I didn't.

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I don't think I knew you at the
time, but I saw your name on

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like the list of like
possibilities and I was just

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like this guy's got the chops,
literally the year before I was

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aladdin.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I was just
a disney guy, you know you were

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that guy.

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Speaker 2: You were that guy.

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Crazy thought guys, should we
jump into cowboy bebop?

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Speaker 1: should we I.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I had
anything else like going on this

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past week.

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If I did, I do not remember.

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But yeah, let's do it.

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Let's jump into the discussion.

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Rich, I want to tee back to
what you were saying earlier.

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You kind of mentioned that by
the second half of the show you

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had gone beyond just liking it.

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You started to really love
certain aspects of it.

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How do you feel about the
season as a whole, and do you

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think you'll have to go back to
it to fully grasp the whole of

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it?

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Speaker 3: I guess I think I'll
have to go back.

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I mean, it's just, I think that
there's something that I love

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about introductory pilot
episodes to shows.

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You know where they're, just
where you, you are a little like

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.

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I'm okay with exposition in my
first couple of episodes so that

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I connect and then I'm able to
grow or experience the rest of

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the narrative alongside of the
characters, if that kind of

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makes sense.

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And I've always I'm not saying
always my experience with some

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anime so far has been that it
kind of just hits the ball

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rolling and then, like, we'll
catch you up as we go along and

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I feel very disoriented and I
can't, I don't like I remember

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not.

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I, I remember not.

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I didn't care about Jet, I
didn't care about Spike.

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The person who I was first most
interested in was Faye

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Valentine, but it's because we
met her, I was getting more

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information about her.

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It just was presented in a way
that I like to digest stories,

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where I Look just look Rich.

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Speaker 1: We all had, at one
point in our lives, had some

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sort of interest towards faye.

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Speaker 3: You know mine was,
you know a younger age, but you

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know she was, you know she is
definitely created with fan

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service in mind but she does
have, like you know, an

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interesting story though yeah,
yeah, it's, I think, from in

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terms of like finding out about
the characters.

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Obviously we do get more about
jet and edward here and we get

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more about spike, but I think
that she was like the first

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character that we got some more
like it's like it made me want

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to scratch the surface more,
like what's going on there,

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what's with this character,
where the other two I just kind

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of felt lost because I didn't
feel like I was really

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introduced to them, so like I
won't and it's interesting I

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won't say that then edward's my
second favorite, right, it's not

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because edward then comes in
later when introduced.

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I actually would say, if I'm
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putting fey and then then jet,
second actually for me by the

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end of black dog syndicate, the
episode where he he's with his

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old partner.

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Speaker 2: I think it's black
dog yeah that, oh, that was such

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a good episode.

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Forget the name of the episode.

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Speaker 3: We should pull up the
episode list, just for the

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pretty sure it's like black dog
syndicate or something maybe I'm

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confusing that with the red
dawn?

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I don't know red dawns, I'm
crossing my wires.

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I think that's han solo.

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But yeah, as you look that up,
I just found black dog, black

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dog serenade.

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There we go.

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I knew it was an s sound, yeah,
so it's just.

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I think, like that episode gave
me a lot about his character and

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I just love the way it was laid
out.

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I mean, I don't know if I'm
naive, but I didn't see that his

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partner was at play the entire
time and they know he was

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playing him and and he was the
original like.

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I should have seen that coming,
you know, like, but I just

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enjoyed it so much that I kind
of lost the ability to

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analytically analyze story
structure, which is what I do

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for a living, and that's when I
know I like something right,

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when I stop analyzing it for
like, oh, this is going to, this

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has to happen next.

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You know, I'm that guy who,
when han was killed by kylo ren,

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I gasped in the middle of the
theater and I remember my friend

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looked at me and said how are
you surprised about this

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development?

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And I had tears streaming down
my face, you know.

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So by the end of this I was
like when, when Ed and Ian walk

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away.

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I was like what is this for
real?

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Like I was getting, you know, I
think as the series ended I was

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kind of really sad that there
wasn't more to it.

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Speaker 1: Like you could tell
that it was winding down, like

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it felt like everything was
coming to a head, like it was

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like a lot of signs were
pointing there.

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There was a lot of you know the
you know bounty of the week

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still kind of going on, but
there was still you know

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underlying things that were kind
of at work, that they were kind

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of building up, and what were
y'all's thoughts about you know

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fay?

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Fay is pretty much like a woman
out of time.

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You know.

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She's like captain america.

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She was frozen.

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That's a good way.

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Yeah, yeah I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for me
I think that that was the point

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in the show that it all really
clicked for me was learning

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about her origin, like waking up
50 years later, and I really

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liked the.

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I mean, as a timeline geek, I
immediately like, okay, all

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right, now I know where we are
in the scheme of things.

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You know, like I've seen dates
like you know, like this

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character was born in 2030, or
something like that, but it

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wasn't until they mentioned that
she woke up in 2068.

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And this was now three years
later.

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So the show takes place in 2071
.

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And, yeah, I thought that that
was a.

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Really it helped me just start
pinpointing like, okay, now, 50

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years ago, so we're in 2071.

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So 50 years ago, 2021 or 2022,
the moon for some reason

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collapses and destroys Earth and
everything's changed ever since

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.

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You know, now Earth is just
surrounded by asteroids and

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stuff like that, droids and
stuff like that.

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So just that little bit of
Faye's backstory helped me kind

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of piece out the timeline or
parse out the timeline, I should

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say, in my head, and I liked
that.

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I liked it a lot.

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It was really cool.

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And, yeah, knowing that she
wasn't always this like cold,

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heartless bounty hunter is
interesting because what

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happened in those three years
that you know?

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She has decided that, like this
is the person that she has to

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be, because she doesn't remember
the person that she was.

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I thought that was fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Would you have hated
it if the show started with her

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on Earth right and then, like
time, jumped to her in the

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present?

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Speaker 2: but then we find the
video later I don't know that I

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would have hated it, but I like
the presentation the way that it

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is because every character is
mysterious as we first meet them

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.

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You know, like every character
has a mysterious background that

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we don't fully understand until
pretty much the end of the

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season and I feel like they
would have been giving too much

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right away yeah, even, even if
not much was said.

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Speaker 1: I think giving that
would have been giving a little

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bit too much and I think that
that would have shifted like

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maybe this, I guess, the setup
of the show and it probably

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00:22:00,605 --> 00:22:04,214
would have still come out well,
but maybe not as well as it did.

465
00:22:04,214 --> 00:22:08,007
You know the fact that, like
dakota said, like you know what

466
00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:09,973
kind of keeps you going, is that
mystique?

467
00:22:09,973 --> 00:22:12,622
But then you're like, okay,
well, I know that she's from

468
00:22:12,781 --> 00:22:17,952
earth and you know it was very
much obvious that, like when she

469
00:22:17,952 --> 00:22:22,205
was on earth and the, when you
saw that beta max, that you know

470
00:22:22,205 --> 00:22:27,953
the earth, it didn't seem high
tech as the world of Cowboy

471
00:22:27,973 --> 00:22:28,634
Bebop does.

472
00:22:28,634 --> 00:22:30,684
So it's like, okay, well,
something happened.

473
00:22:30,684 --> 00:22:35,083
But yeah, I agree with Dakota,
the way that it was presented as

474
00:22:35,083 --> 00:22:37,209
is, I prefer it that way.

475
00:22:37,931 --> 00:22:40,900
Speaker 2: The show's
presentation is a particularly

476
00:22:41,121 --> 00:22:44,010
interesting one in the sense
that it almost follows the same

477
00:22:44,452 --> 00:22:48,585
logic that the first two Witcher
novels employ.

478
00:22:48,585 --> 00:22:51,592
Where the first two Witcher
novels are just collections of

479
00:22:51,632 --> 00:22:55,748
short stories that aren't in
chronological order, they give

480
00:22:55,788 --> 00:23:01,566
you a random short story with a
moral, you know, backbone and

481
00:23:02,167 --> 00:23:05,876
there's a little bit of a
character arc that you can start

482
00:23:05,876 --> 00:23:06,538
to piece together.

483
00:23:06,538 --> 00:23:09,445
Okay, this is kind of where
this character is coming from,

484
00:23:10,007 --> 00:23:12,760
this is where they, this is
their goal, this is where

485
00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,086
they're headed and there's a
little bit of foreshadowing as

486
00:23:15,126 --> 00:23:15,808
to what's to come.

487
00:23:15,808 --> 00:23:19,106
And that's that's what happens
in the first two short story

488
00:23:19,126 --> 00:23:20,390
collections for the Witcher.

489
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:23,286
For all intents and purposes,
those are my favorite Witcher

490
00:23:23,306 --> 00:23:24,107
stories bar none.

491
00:23:24,869 --> 00:23:28,467
As soon as it gets into, like
the long novels where Geralt

492
00:23:28,807 --> 00:23:32,582
actually meets up with Yennefer
and they start taking Ciri on,

493
00:23:33,344 --> 00:23:36,892
it loses me because the mystique
is gone and it's just narrative

494
00:23:36,892 --> 00:23:37,373
storytelling.

495
00:23:37,373 --> 00:23:40,046
At that point, and with Cowboy
Bebop it never gets there

496
00:23:40,827 --> 00:23:43,401
Because every episode is
basically a short story.

497
00:23:43,401 --> 00:23:46,430
It's a little bottle episode
that gives you a piece of the

498
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:51,441
puzzle, and while it seems to be
all in chronological order, it

499
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,400
doesn't necessarily need to be
Like.

500
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,989
You could rearrange a couple of
these episodes and you wouldn't

501
00:23:55,989 --> 00:23:57,986
know that you wouldn't be any
the wiser.

502
00:23:57,986 --> 00:24:02,546
You know, and I think that
that's a really cool method of

503
00:24:02,848 --> 00:24:06,468
telling this story and
ultimately, like thinking back

504
00:24:06,709 --> 00:24:09,707
on everything as a whole, now
that we've gotten all these

505
00:24:09,747 --> 00:24:10,849
little pieces to the puzzle.

506
00:24:10,849 --> 00:24:15,448
I think it's genius, Like
whoever wrote this, whoever you

507
00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:17,452
know spent the time and money to
produce this.

508
00:24:17,452 --> 00:24:19,143
Absolutely genius Like.

509
00:24:19,143 --> 00:24:21,769
This was a really strong watch.

510
00:24:21,769 --> 00:24:23,172
I'm really happy we did this.

511
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:23,779
Speaker 3: Rich.

512
00:24:23,779 --> 00:24:24,182
What do you think?

513
00:24:24,182 --> 00:24:26,901
So I mean, I think you're right
.

514
00:24:26,901 --> 00:24:31,513
I think a part of me, it's just
the way I like to consume

515
00:24:32,195 --> 00:24:33,219
narratives or stories.

516
00:24:33,219 --> 00:24:37,807
I'm very much of a you know
kind of more linear, with like

517
00:24:37,989 --> 00:24:39,030
fewer flashbacks.

518
00:24:39,090 --> 00:24:40,881
You know like I love lord of the
rings.

519
00:24:40,881 --> 00:24:43,546
There's almost nothing there
and I know we know there are

520
00:24:43,625 --> 00:24:45,890
references and things, but
overall it's kind of just

521
00:24:46,191 --> 00:24:46,892
straightforward.

522
00:24:46,892 --> 00:24:50,185
I think I kind of like that a
little bit more sometimes and I

523
00:24:50,266 --> 00:24:55,278
think, just as a reader, as a
watcher, the mysterious kind of

524
00:24:55,338 --> 00:24:58,329
reveal along the way is
something that's kind of.

525
00:24:58,329 --> 00:25:00,660
I mean, we talked about it when
we watched rings of power.

526
00:25:00,660 --> 00:25:04,390
You know like I enjoyed it so
much more when I knew who

527
00:25:04,450 --> 00:25:05,881
everyone was, and it wasn't the.

528
00:25:05,881 --> 00:25:09,269
You know the stranger is this
guy and you know hal brand is

529
00:25:09,288 --> 00:25:11,602
this guy, and I think it's just
that.

530
00:25:11,602 --> 00:25:12,605
That's probably just something.

531
00:25:12,605 --> 00:25:14,881
That's probably a gripe I'm
just gonna have when we go over

532
00:25:14,921 --> 00:25:17,768
something and there's kind of
this shroud of mystery on people

533
00:25:17,768 --> 00:25:20,883
it's harder to get into, that's
for sure, and and we were

534
00:25:20,903 --> 00:25:23,567
experiencing that last week Like
we didn't know, what to think.

535
00:25:24,367 --> 00:25:27,633
Speaker 2: I recognize that this
was art, but I didn't connect

536
00:25:27,673 --> 00:25:29,174
with it fully last week.

537
00:25:29,174 --> 00:25:34,009
I feel like if I dive into this
more, I could become even a

538
00:25:34,048 --> 00:25:37,801
bigger fan of whatever's going
on with this show, because the

539
00:25:37,842 --> 00:25:40,887
level of artistry on display,
both in the writing, the

540
00:25:40,989 --> 00:25:44,608
animation, the music choice, the
sound choices and even just

541
00:25:44,648 --> 00:25:48,906
like the pacing of how they
introduce concepts and ideas to

542
00:25:48,946 --> 00:25:53,281
you while also giving you very
heavy sci fi concepts along with

543
00:25:53,281 --> 00:25:55,708
it like there's a whole episode
where you know downloading

544
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:58,442
one's consciousness into a
digital world and how that was

545
00:25:58,542 --> 00:26:01,189
causing like a mass suicide
spike.

546
00:26:02,090 --> 00:26:05,846
Fascinating concept and you know
I've seen similar stuff in sci

547
00:26:05,866 --> 00:26:06,429
fi before.

548
00:26:06,429 --> 00:26:10,066
It's not an entirely new
concept, but the way that it

549
00:26:10,126 --> 00:26:15,082
incorporates into this universe
is just so fun or maybe not fun

550
00:26:15,303 --> 00:26:17,970
Fun's not probably the right
word, but it's realistic and you

551
00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:20,723
can feel that this is something
that could happen in this

552
00:26:20,804 --> 00:26:21,163
universe.

553
00:26:21,163 --> 00:26:26,113
So, rich, you were mentioning
earlier about the flashback to

554
00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:30,365
the beta deck and the tape that
Faye is delivered.

555
00:26:30,365 --> 00:26:34,252
Do you find that that's a
flashback or is it just that

556
00:26:34,493 --> 00:26:37,885
she's experiencing this as new
information in the moment?

557
00:26:38,186 --> 00:26:41,493
Speaker 3: I know it's a
narrative conceit and I know

558
00:26:41,554 --> 00:26:44,990
it's still a flashback, but it
makes it feel like less like a

559
00:26:45,049 --> 00:26:45,510
flashback.

560
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:48,607
It's something about you know
the footage being seen.

561
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:50,432
We're seeing it at the same
time.

562
00:26:50,432 --> 00:26:52,183
That didn't bother like I.

563
00:26:52,183 --> 00:26:52,965
I liked it.

564
00:26:52,965 --> 00:26:56,922
I giggled when they first took
the you know the beta, beta

565
00:26:56,942 --> 00:26:57,403
cassette out.

566
00:26:57,403 --> 00:27:00,411
I remember looking at it and I
immediately said that's not a

567
00:27:00,431 --> 00:27:05,789
vhs, just from the kind of the
outside box, like the, the front

568
00:27:05,789 --> 00:27:08,983
of it it's smaller, it's just
like a little more square, yeah,

569
00:27:08,983 --> 00:27:12,632
so I was like I love that he
was just ripping I know I was I

570
00:27:12,652 --> 00:27:15,650
was like cringing inside, like
no, don't do that I was dying.

571
00:27:15,931 --> 00:27:20,063
Also, the gag that if they had
just like stayed put they would

572
00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:23,830
have gotten the betamax player
is unbelievable.

573
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:27,544
Chef's kiss, just really good
stuff I just enjoyed.

574
00:27:27,544 --> 00:27:31,112
So when I realized it was a
betamax, I immediately giggled

575
00:27:31,152 --> 00:27:33,804
because I was like good luck
finding something to play that

576
00:27:34,065 --> 00:27:34,144
on.

577
00:27:34,144 --> 00:27:37,152
You know like, and I know it's
supposed to be really far in the

578
00:27:37,152 --> 00:27:40,505
future, but you know, I think
even now it's way easier to find

579
00:27:40,505 --> 00:27:42,528
a vhs player if you wanted to,
than a betamac.

580
00:27:42,868 --> 00:27:47,281
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, so, yeah,
they exist, yeah, so, but so,

581
00:27:47,342 --> 00:27:51,789
yeah, so when you were saying
that I honestly I don't see this

582
00:27:51,789 --> 00:27:53,451
moment as a flashback.

583
00:27:53,451 --> 00:27:57,465
When I think of like a
flashback, usually it's like a

584
00:27:57,526 --> 00:28:01,193
complete cut or it's like
somebody thinking back on that

585
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:02,482
moment, you know.

586
00:28:02,482 --> 00:28:04,849
But the way that it was
presented was that it was

587
00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:08,265
presented like you know, kind of
like in that video format, and

588
00:28:08,726 --> 00:28:12,740
it was being presented as new
information, whereas for me it

589
00:28:12,779 --> 00:28:15,988
didn't feel so much as like a
flashback in like the

590
00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:18,433
traditional sense of a flashback
.

591
00:28:19,556 --> 00:28:19,875
Speaker 3: Fair.

592
00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:25,900
I think that what I dislike
sometimes is when flashback is

593
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,204
used for character development,
whereas I'd rather the character

594
00:28:31,204 --> 00:28:32,685
develop in front of me.

595
00:28:32,685 --> 00:28:37,990
His or her current actions will
then dictate who they are.

596
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:42,913
It doesn't always have to be
what came before, but I think

597
00:28:43,054 --> 00:28:45,676
that if I had known more about
the other characters or like

598
00:28:46,238 --> 00:28:49,965
overall, not knowing fey and her
being mysterious, would have

599
00:28:49,986 --> 00:28:51,608
been okay with me.

600
00:28:51,608 --> 00:28:56,464
Know that it probably shouldn't
start very linearly, but I

601
00:28:56,505 --> 00:28:59,957
think I would have kind of liked
to see that.

602
00:28:59,957 --> 00:29:03,102
I just like to see how it would
play out if it was rolled out

603
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:07,950
that way, if faye was, say, the
only one who was really

604
00:29:08,029 --> 00:29:08,671
mysterious.

605
00:29:08,671 --> 00:29:12,195
Even jet we don't find out
about his arm.

606
00:29:12,195 --> 00:29:13,698
Until what is that?

607
00:29:13,758 --> 00:29:19,545
Speaker 2: episode 21, 19 like
it's yeah, it's, it's the black

608
00:29:19,565 --> 00:29:20,726
Dog, sarah episode.

609
00:29:20,826 --> 00:29:24,971
Speaker 3: So it's just there
are all these important things.

610
00:29:24,971 --> 00:29:31,577
And then the jump in technology
, right, I mean, I imagine, yeah

611
00:29:31,577 --> 00:29:36,208
, I guess, if I looked at media
from 70 years ago, well, she's

612
00:29:36,607 --> 00:29:39,766
no, I guess it would have been
60 years ago, right.

613
00:29:39,965 --> 00:29:42,022
Speaker 2: Yeah, so 60 years ago
yeah.

614
00:29:43,196 --> 00:29:44,942
Speaker 3: And this is probably
being picky, right, you know,

615
00:29:44,982 --> 00:29:46,438
but I mean I wouldn't, I don't
know.

616
00:29:46,438 --> 00:29:48,703
Maybe my son, if he grabbed an
eight track, would be like you

617
00:29:48,723 --> 00:29:51,199
know what is and rolling the
stuff out of it.

618
00:29:51,199 --> 00:29:54,046
You know, I mean, spike is a
little bit absent-minded and

619
00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:58,304
kind of does some bonehead
things along the way, so I guess

620
00:29:58,304 --> 00:30:00,957
it's not completely out of
character for him to immediately

621
00:30:00,957 --> 00:30:04,596
destroy something before having
any idea of what it is, you

622
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,044
know that's like in like movies
or tv shows, where they're

623
00:30:07,064 --> 00:30:10,421
reading a comic book, and like
they'll like fold back the pages

624
00:30:10,421 --> 00:30:14,116
and they'll just like flop it
around and it's like in my head

625
00:30:14,176 --> 00:30:17,104
Speaker 2: I'm like no, you're
gonna crease it.

626
00:30:17,104 --> 00:30:17,826
What are you doing?

627
00:30:17,826 --> 00:30:22,176
Yes I I have owned hundreds of
comic books.

628
00:30:22,176 --> 00:30:26,881
I do not crease anything Like
it's very, except for like the

629
00:30:26,941 --> 00:30:29,406
first couple of things I read
when I was a kid are like

630
00:30:29,626 --> 00:30:29,988
damaged.

631
00:30:29,988 --> 00:30:32,222
But I can't throw them out
because you know sentimental

632
00:30:32,242 --> 00:30:32,443
value.

633
00:30:33,597 --> 00:30:35,924
Speaker 3: My wife bought me
Hulk 181, the first appearance

634
00:30:35,964 --> 00:30:36,506
of Wolverine.

635
00:30:36,506 --> 00:30:39,299
I know if you're listening
you're probably like well,

636
00:30:39,461 --> 00:30:42,768
actually he appeared in the last
panels of Hulk 180.

637
00:30:42,768 --> 00:30:43,922
And you would be correct.

638
00:30:43,922 --> 00:30:45,894
But his first full appearance
was 181.

639
00:30:45,894 --> 00:30:48,481
And we went to Comic-Con one
year and she picked it up for me

640
00:30:48,481 --> 00:30:51,759
and I brought it home and I
could tell she was waiting for

641
00:30:51,819 --> 00:30:54,527
me to take it out and read it
right.

642
00:30:57,367 --> 00:30:58,011
Speaker 2: Was it graded?

643
00:30:58,354 --> 00:31:01,423
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's not
in the, it wasn't, it wasn't

644
00:31:01,483 --> 00:31:05,244
slabbed, no, it wasn't graded,
but I still.

645
00:31:05,244 --> 00:31:09,571
I went and I downloaded it
digitally and I started reading

646
00:31:09,633 --> 00:31:11,237
it and she's like what are you
doing?

647
00:31:11,277 --> 00:31:14,965
and I'm like what's I can't open
, that I was like that's like

648
00:31:15,467 --> 00:31:17,500
the ark of the covenant, like
that thing is staying there.

649
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,954
I have every issue from, like
you know, that first appearance

650
00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:24,184
to the entire first run of
wolverine, and then volume two,

651
00:31:24,295 --> 00:31:27,584
volume three, volume four, like
basically up until the volumes

652
00:31:27,604 --> 00:31:28,747
that just came out three years
ago.

653
00:31:28,747 --> 00:31:32,904
I had every single issue and I
have them hermetically sealed

654
00:31:32,924 --> 00:31:33,787
and I'll never open them.

655
00:31:33,787 --> 00:31:35,601
You know so that would be me.

656
00:31:36,123 --> 00:31:38,570
Speaker 1: That would be me if I
had like an action comics

657
00:31:38,832 --> 00:31:42,121
number one in front of me like
I'd be like I'm not even like,

658
00:31:42,843 --> 00:31:46,159
I'm not even like going to like
glance at this thing.

659
00:31:46,199 --> 00:31:51,432
Speaker 2: It might burst into
flames yeah, well, we were sorry

660
00:31:51,432 --> 00:31:54,376
, I derailed that conversation,
oh it came.

661
00:31:54,616 --> 00:31:56,839
Speaker 1: It derailed from the
beta max.

662
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,843
That uh yeah, that uh spike
destroyed.

663
00:31:59,982 --> 00:32:04,048
Speaker 2: How we treat analog
content and I like that they do

664
00:32:04,147 --> 00:32:11,021
separate the current time of
2071 from the more analog time

665
00:32:11,083 --> 00:32:13,366
of, like the early 21st century.

666
00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:15,992
And yeah, it's.

667
00:32:15,992 --> 00:32:20,682
I think that the progression of
technology is probably a little

668
00:32:20,682 --> 00:32:27,396
bit crazier than will actually
exist in our timeline, but I do

669
00:32:27,497 --> 00:32:31,746
like the vision, like the idea
of how life is going to be like.

670
00:32:31,746 --> 00:32:35,500
I mean, even if we watch like
blade runner in 2019, la looks

671
00:32:35,619 --> 00:32:38,744
like the most crazy, like
futuristic society, but

672
00:32:38,885 --> 00:32:41,955
obviously 2019 la just looks
like la.

673
00:32:43,198 --> 00:32:43,499
Speaker 1: Right.

674
00:32:43,499 --> 00:32:47,144
Same thing could be said about
Back to the Future 2015.

675
00:32:47,144 --> 00:32:48,626
Back to the Future 2.

676
00:32:49,449 --> 00:32:51,972
Speaker 2: Oh, I was like wait
Back to the Future, 2015.

677
00:32:51,972 --> 00:32:52,193
What?

678
00:32:52,653 --> 00:32:55,823
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like how
they made 2015 look super

679
00:32:55,863 --> 00:32:56,505
futuristic.

680
00:32:57,477 --> 00:32:58,762
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what you
meant, yeah.

681
00:32:59,897 --> 00:33:01,842
Speaker 1: None of that
technology exists.

682
00:33:02,663 --> 00:33:03,968
Speaker 2: Yes, that was a good
point.

683
00:33:04,674 --> 00:33:06,682
Speaker 1: Shoot even Space
Odyssey 2001.

684
00:33:06,682 --> 00:33:08,059
That's a good one too.

685
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,137
Yeah, so I mean the
technological creep isn't as

686
00:33:12,218 --> 00:33:27,737
years ago didn't expect us to be
as technologically savvy with

687
00:33:27,877 --> 00:33:30,763
stuff like smartphones and
computers and stuff like that no

688
00:33:30,763 --> 00:33:35,059
, no, yeah, I didn't like, even
like a lot of them had like

689
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:39,448
video calling, but it looked so
old school, like the depiction

690
00:33:39,508 --> 00:33:43,744
of like a futuristic like video
calling, except except for maybe

691
00:33:43,744 --> 00:33:47,704
Star Wars, whereas they have
the holograms.

692
00:33:47,704 --> 00:33:50,503
We have not really made it to
that point yet.

693
00:33:50,503 --> 00:33:55,584
I mean, holograms kind of exist
, but it's really an illusion

694
00:33:55,624 --> 00:33:58,050
type thing, not where it's
something that's really being

695
00:33:58,090 --> 00:33:59,460
projected right in front of us.

696
00:34:00,576 --> 00:34:03,844
Speaker 2: So, anthony, we heard
Rich's favorite characters

697
00:34:04,064 --> 00:34:04,384
ranked.

698
00:34:04,384 --> 00:34:07,479
How do you rank the characters,
or at least their backstories?

699
00:34:08,059 --> 00:34:11,067
Speaker 1: So, as far as the
backstories, I mean, I like Jet

700
00:34:11,186 --> 00:34:11,628
a lot.

701
00:34:11,628 --> 00:34:15,043
I really feel like he's got a
lot of heart.

702
00:34:15,043 --> 00:34:15,905
You know he's that.

703
00:34:15,905 --> 00:34:18,699
He's that character that, like
you know, he'll say, like you

704
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,405
know, go do what you want, I
don't care, but then he'll have

705
00:34:21,445 --> 00:34:22,528
their backs, you know.

706
00:34:22,528 --> 00:34:25,615
And so I really like him a lot.

707
00:34:25,615 --> 00:34:29,884
I would say that honestly, tell
you truth, like, oh man,

708
00:34:30,284 --> 00:34:37,539
backstory wise, maybe like jet,
you know, jet face spike and

709
00:34:38,019 --> 00:34:38,440
edward.

710
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,306
But then, like, if I said
likability, I would say I would

711
00:34:43,367 --> 00:34:47,938
say edward, jet and spike and
fay, like live on that same line

712
00:34:47,938 --> 00:34:51,349
because they're practically two
sides of the same coin wait,

713
00:34:51,369 --> 00:34:51,811
what do you mean?

714
00:34:51,951 --> 00:34:52,072
Speaker 2: like?

715
00:34:52,072 --> 00:34:55,447
In likability, like you know
like they're all the same or

716
00:34:55,467 --> 00:34:56,431
what do you mean?

717
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:58,797
Speaker 1: no, I'm saying
likability, like that.

718
00:34:58,797 --> 00:35:01,461
You like them, you know like
yeah you enjoy them.

719
00:35:01,461 --> 00:35:02,123
That's what I mean.

720
00:35:03,025 --> 00:35:05,628
Speaker 2: So how would you rank
them on a basis of like, liking

721
00:35:05,628 --> 00:35:05,949
them?

722
00:35:06,175 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: That's what I Edward.

723
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,278
So Edward, jet, and then Faye
and Spike are on the same line

724
00:35:12,298 --> 00:35:13,739
because they're like the same
person.

725
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: That's what I was
saying oh okay, I see what

726
00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:16,161
you're saying.

727
00:35:16,161 --> 00:35:18,382
Oh okay, all right, gotcha,
gotcha, gotcha, yeah Okay.

728
00:35:18,382 --> 00:35:20,184
So you're a big Ed fan.

729
00:35:20,804 --> 00:35:24,347
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess
Ed and Jet are interchangeable

730
00:35:24,387 --> 00:35:29,871
for me Because they're really
like you know, they have lovable

731
00:35:29,871 --> 00:35:37,721
personalities and Ed kind of
injects that childlike humor

732
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:37,902
into it.

733
00:35:37,902 --> 00:35:39,887
I really enjoyed the whole
chess episode.

734
00:35:39,887 --> 00:35:43,043
Was that last week, or was that
this set of episodes?

735
00:35:43,043 --> 00:35:45,197
I don't remember the chess
episode.

736
00:35:45,197 --> 00:35:46,041
Yeah, no week, or is that this
set?

737
00:35:46,101 --> 00:35:46,744
Speaker 2: of episodes I don't
remember.

738
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:46,985
Was it both?

739
00:35:46,985 --> 00:35:47,385
The chess episode?

740
00:35:47,405 --> 00:35:47,927
Speaker 1: yeah no, it was this
week.

741
00:35:47,927 --> 00:35:48,510
Yeah, but I think it was.

742
00:35:48,510 --> 00:35:49,675
Was it bohemian rhapsody that?

743
00:35:49,675 --> 00:35:53,166
Yes, so it was the first
episode that we, yes, watch yeah

744
00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:55,835
, so I really liked that one
that they had, like that chess

745
00:35:55,916 --> 00:36:00,846
master and like ed was playing
like the same game for like that

746
00:36:00,846 --> 00:36:01,568
entire time.

747
00:36:01,588 --> 00:36:04,083
Speaker 2: It was for such a
long time and I like that.

748
00:36:04,083 --> 00:36:06,760
The chess master was, just like
this guy's, either a genius or

749
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,322
an idiot.

750
00:36:07,322 --> 00:36:10,916
Yeah, yeah, I love that and
it's probably a bit of both.

751
00:36:10,936 --> 00:36:13,262
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know
absolutely, but yeah, no, I

752
00:36:13,282 --> 00:36:17,057
would say like ed and jed are
like interchangeable, whereas

753
00:36:17,177 --> 00:36:20,907
fey and spike are like kind of
the same because they get on

754
00:36:20,947 --> 00:36:21,896
each other's nerves.

755
00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:24,722
But I think that's because
they're very similar right.

756
00:36:25,123 --> 00:36:29,130
Speaker 2: I liked the ed
episode mushroom samba because

757
00:36:29,170 --> 00:36:32,539
it was mostly an ed and ein
episode there wasn't much going

758
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,025
on with the other characters
besides, like they were hungry,

759
00:36:35,186 --> 00:36:37,844
but for the most part it was
just ed and ein on an adventure

760
00:36:38,226 --> 00:36:39,954
and I was laughing my butt off.

761
00:36:39,974 --> 00:36:43,262
Yeah, me too like yeah some of
the animations they like

762
00:36:43,282 --> 00:36:46,960
whenever they had Ed running and
she's just like flailing her

763
00:36:47,141 --> 00:36:49,027
arms in the background.

764
00:36:49,027 --> 00:36:51,202
It's such a funny idea.

765
00:36:51,202 --> 00:36:55,896
It's like I forget the name of
those monkeys, but like if you

766
00:36:55,936 --> 00:36:58,585
ever see like certain like lanky
monkeys run.

767
00:36:58,585 --> 00:37:01,400
They keep their hands in the
air because their arms are too

768
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:02,523
long and they would hit the
ground.

769
00:37:02,523 --> 00:37:05,201
It looked like that was really
fun.

770
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,284
Speaker 1: I like that episode
too.

771
00:37:06,284 --> 00:37:09,077
That one was hilarious then
like the whole like train

772
00:37:09,097 --> 00:37:12,844
sequence was like hilarious with
them yeah, yeah.

773
00:37:13,045 --> 00:37:16,818
Speaker 2: And again, it's just
beautiful animation throughout,

774
00:37:16,898 --> 00:37:20,847
like they don't skimp on it ever
in this show, and even like

775
00:37:21,476 --> 00:37:25,586
smaller scale episodes like this
one feel impactful and feel

776
00:37:25,896 --> 00:37:28,041
worthy of your time and I think
that that's.

777
00:37:28,041 --> 00:37:29,003
That's really fun.

778
00:37:29,003 --> 00:37:30,666
Were there any episodes?

779
00:37:30,666 --> 00:37:32,117
Really quick, rich.

780
00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:36,487
We were talking about certain
episodes that we liked about Ayn

781
00:37:36,487 --> 00:37:40,722
, specifically like the Bohemian
Rhapsody episode with the chess

782
00:37:40,722 --> 00:37:44,449
master, as well as the mushroom
episode with Ayn and Ed.

783
00:37:44,449 --> 00:37:47,860
What are your thoughts on those
so?

784
00:37:48,181 --> 00:37:49,623
Speaker 3: the Bohemian Rhapsody
.

785
00:37:49,623 --> 00:37:52,737
I really enjoyed that one, but
I think that for me, the

786
00:37:52,757 --> 00:37:55,481
mushroom one was oh, it's
perfect.

787
00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:58,869
I don't know if it's so.

788
00:37:58,869 --> 00:38:01,820
We know he eats the mushroom
and he starts hopping right away

789
00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:01,820
.

790
00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:05,427
You know, that's where we get a
little bit more of Ed here as

791
00:38:05,507 --> 00:38:05,847
well.

792
00:38:05,847 --> 00:38:09,782
Just how the three of them are,
you know, jet, spike and Faye

793
00:38:10,063 --> 00:38:14,262
are just all tripping out on the
oh my gosh, that was so funny.

794
00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: The idea of just
pretending, or like thinking,

795
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:20,750
that he's going up these stairs
that are like never ending is

796
00:38:20,869 --> 00:38:24,050
such a funny visual and they
actually visualize like he's

797
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:26,621
just slightly stepping up and
down on the same step.

798
00:38:26,661 --> 00:38:29,612
Speaker 3: but I think my
favorite, and it's because I've

799
00:38:29,652 --> 00:38:34,143
seen people come to the
conclusion that they've solved

800
00:38:34,182 --> 00:38:36,927
the mysteries of life, you know,
so what?

801
00:38:37,369 --> 00:38:38,777
Speaker 2: oh, my favorite line.

802
00:38:38,936 --> 00:38:41,827
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was jet
sitting there going oh that's it

803
00:38:41,827 --> 00:38:44,215
, I figured it out, figure what
life's all about.

804
00:38:44,215 --> 00:38:49,704
And I've heard people in the
same state say the same exact

805
00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:50,206
sentence.

806
00:38:50,206 --> 00:38:53,199
You know, like, yeah, you know
we broke the code.

807
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:56,088
You know, and I'm like, yeah,
yeah, you broke the code.

808
00:38:56,088 --> 00:38:59,780
So when I heard him say it,
I'll just say that it felt like

809
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,112
they definitely consulted with
someone on that episode, right,

810
00:39:03,233 --> 00:39:06,360
who had taken some kind of magic
mushrooms, I think, and they

811
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:10,679
were like I wouldn't doubt the
writers of the show to have, you

812
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:12,907
know, gone on that trip
themselves.

813
00:39:12,967 --> 00:39:16,594
Speaker 2: Because the thing
with good science fiction that

814
00:39:16,614 --> 00:39:18,815
you don't see a lot today is
life experience.

815
00:39:18,815 --> 00:39:23,778
And I think that when you like,
just using Star Trek as an

816
00:39:23,798 --> 00:39:25,980
example, you have classic Star
Trek.

817
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:29,902
You know the 60s stuff, but
specifically the stuff in the

818
00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:33,222
80s and 90s felt very grounded.

819
00:39:33,222 --> 00:39:37,545
Every episode had a purpose,
every episode had a morality and

820
00:39:37,545 --> 00:39:39,525
it felt like the writers had
lived experience.

821
00:39:39,525 --> 00:39:41,367
The writers had lived
experience.

822
00:39:41,927 --> 00:39:47,550
Fast forward to Picard and
Discovery, like the newer Star

823
00:39:47,570 --> 00:39:47,949
Trek shows.

824
00:39:47,949 --> 00:39:49,311
I'm not saying that they're bad
.

825
00:39:49,311 --> 00:39:52,612
Well, I am saying Picard is bad
, but I'm not saying that the

826
00:39:52,652 --> 00:39:53,432
other shows are bad.

827
00:39:53,432 --> 00:39:54,833
Picard was terrible.

828
00:39:54,833 --> 00:39:59,407
I quit YouTube for three months
after Picard.

829
00:39:59,407 --> 00:40:01,280
I was in such a depression
because he's my favorite

830
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:02,356
character Anyway.

831
00:40:02,356 --> 00:40:06,438
But you just don't have the
same lived experience in writers

832
00:40:06,438 --> 00:40:09,244
these days and sometimes it
really shows.

833
00:40:09,244 --> 00:40:13,440
And I think with a show like
Cowboy Bebop, I'm not saying

834
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,027
that they, you know, had gang
affiliations or they were in

835
00:40:17,114 --> 00:40:21,161
shootouts constantly, but the
level of writing indicated that

836
00:40:21,202 --> 00:40:22,664
they were world weary people.

837
00:40:22,664 --> 00:40:27,480
They had experience that they
wanted to impart onto viewers.

838
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,365
Speaker 1: So I think that
that's something I take away

839
00:40:30,545 --> 00:40:36,005
from at least the mushroom
episode I mean, you can also

840
00:40:36,065 --> 00:40:40,436
tell that, like you know just
watching this from beginning to

841
00:40:40,615 --> 00:40:44,489
end, that this anime was
expensive yeah, the level of

842
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:45,112
animation.

843
00:40:45,534 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: You could just you
see it in every episode.

844
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,244
It's just like this was made in
the 90s.

845
00:40:50,244 --> 00:40:51,815
Everything was made by hand.

846
00:40:51,815 --> 00:40:54,402
There was no computer
generation here there was a

847
00:40:54,443 --> 00:40:56,557
little bit of computer
generation, but it was like you

848
00:40:56,597 --> 00:40:58,025
could see when it was computer
generated.

849
00:40:58,025 --> 00:41:00,094
But what I mean is like, like
you're saying, anthony,

850
00:41:00,335 --> 00:41:01,601
everything was hand drawn and it
took time.

851
00:41:01,601 --> 00:41:02,788
Yeah, yeah, well, and then that
that's why, like you're saying,

852
00:41:02,788 --> 00:41:03,793
Anthony, everything was
hand-drawn and it took time.

853
00:41:03,813 --> 00:41:05,597
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, and
then that that's why, like you

854
00:41:05,617 --> 00:41:08,324
know, last week I was kind of
saying that, like you know,

855
00:41:08,385 --> 00:41:11,699
there's aspects of it that you
can tell that it's a 90s anime,

856
00:41:11,780 --> 00:41:16,047
but there's also a lot of it
that makes it look different

857
00:41:16,168 --> 00:41:19,659
than the rest of what came out
during that time.

858
00:41:19,659 --> 00:41:24,768
You know, you can compare the
animation of, like Dragon Ball Z

859
00:41:24,768 --> 00:41:28,942
and you know, sailor Moon with,
maybe like Yu Yu Hakusho, but

860
00:41:28,981 --> 00:41:31,715
you can't compare the animation
of Dragon Ball Z and Cowboy

861
00:41:31,755 --> 00:41:33,561
Bebop because they look
different.

862
00:41:33,561 --> 00:41:38,576
You know that it's anime and it
does have like the vibes of a

863
00:41:38,675 --> 00:41:43,083
90s anime, but it looks way
better than anything that came

864
00:41:43,244 --> 00:41:46,418
out or very I would say it's
like one of the top things that

865
00:41:46,458 --> 00:41:50,028
came out around that time as far
as animation and especially

866
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:52,536
writing yeah rich.

867
00:41:52,817 --> 00:41:56,907
Speaker 2: Did you find anything
like uh impressive about the

868
00:41:57,228 --> 00:42:00,478
animation style or anything that
stood out to you about that?

869
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,485
Speaker 3: granted, it was
produced a lot, you know, many

870
00:42:03,525 --> 00:42:07,085
years ago, even just uh, it's
it's not as crisp, obviously, as

871
00:42:07,085 --> 00:42:08,068
things that come out now.

872
00:42:08,068 --> 00:42:11,557
But I think I mentioned this
last episode as well.

873
00:42:11,557 --> 00:42:12,780
I really appreciate that.

874
00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:14,324
I don't think there's any.

875
00:42:14,324 --> 00:42:17,820
They don't take any of those
animation shortcuts where you

876
00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:21,347
know they're walking down a
similar hallway or they're

877
00:42:21,414 --> 00:42:25,434
running in the same way or
anything like that, like even

878
00:42:25,574 --> 00:42:31,005
when they when they reuse the
same locales, or you know, even

879
00:42:31,065 --> 00:42:32,528
on the bebop or anything like
that.

880
00:42:32,528 --> 00:42:37,563
To my knowledge I don't think
there's any kind of similarity

881
00:42:38,364 --> 00:42:39,847
at all, almost in.

882
00:42:39,847 --> 00:42:42,536
They don't take any of those
shortcuts where it just seems

883
00:42:42,556 --> 00:42:45,422
like it's like that stock scene
or whatever that they can kind

884
00:42:45,463 --> 00:42:48,449
of keep dropping into every
episode, and I thought that

885
00:42:48,494 --> 00:42:50,599
that's something yeah, that's,
it's.

886
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,907
It's not spider-man swinging,
but like next to the same

887
00:42:53,954 --> 00:42:58,268
buildings constantly you know,
and I I definitely experienced

888
00:42:58,469 --> 00:43:01,398
lots of animation, and not just
anime, right, just lots of

889
00:43:01,438 --> 00:43:04,576
animation that was lazy like
that, you know, and it would

890
00:43:04,635 --> 00:43:05,981
reuse things over and over again
.

891
00:43:05,981 --> 00:43:09,275
I mean he-man, the master's
universe, right, it's like, or

892
00:43:09,434 --> 00:43:12,360
even like thundercats were two
prime examples of shows that

893
00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:18,679
just re wildly popular but just
reused the same stills probably

894
00:43:18,798 --> 00:43:23,927
like 17, 18 times throughout the
season, and I really appreciate

895
00:43:23,927 --> 00:43:25,590
that Kobo Ibibop didn't do that
.

896
00:43:25,590 --> 00:43:29,405
The music is definitely
obviously a special part of it

897
00:43:30,458 --> 00:43:35,204
and I think that I don't really
have an appreciation for that

898
00:43:35,346 --> 00:43:40,076
style of music, but I think that
the way they chose it, the

899
00:43:40,115 --> 00:43:44,106
songs they chose and their
placement was excellently done

900
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:49,362
and what I find interesting is
that the music didn't feel dated

901
00:43:49,362 --> 00:43:49,362
.

902
00:43:49,884 --> 00:43:52,514
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes
you listen to 90s music and it

903
00:43:52,554 --> 00:43:56,164
sounds like 90s music, you know
yeah there's a lot of music in

904
00:43:56,204 --> 00:43:57,025
this that I'd be like.

905
00:43:57,025 --> 00:43:58,876
This sounds contemporary.

906
00:43:58,876 --> 00:44:02,440
I don't understand how all of
these I mean mean some of the

907
00:44:02,701 --> 00:44:05,784
more jazzy tunes, like the song
at the end.

908
00:44:05,784 --> 00:44:06,684
What's it called?

909
00:44:06,684 --> 00:44:09,929
The song that's at the end of
every episode, the real?

910
00:44:09,969 --> 00:44:10,570
Speaker 1: folk blues.

911
00:44:10,570 --> 00:44:11,510
Yeah.

912
00:44:12,635 --> 00:44:15,141
Speaker 2: It's probably the
most dated sounding of them

913
00:44:15,221 --> 00:44:16,523
because of the way that it's
sung.

914
00:44:16,804 --> 00:44:20,260
Speaker 1: It's so good, though
For the most part no it's been

915
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,382
stuck in my head all week week.

916
00:44:21,382 --> 00:44:26,498
But yeah, I'm looking at how
long it took to animate this and

917
00:44:26,498 --> 00:44:29,929
how expensive it was it was,
and the the thing that I love

918
00:44:29,969 --> 00:44:35,063
that they did was because that
outro track, the real folk blues

919
00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:39,916
that's how they named the last
two episodes of the series that

920
00:44:40,016 --> 00:44:43,284
same and I was like dude it just
and they they actually fit it

921
00:44:43,623 --> 00:44:47,721
in during, uh, one of the
episodes and I saw that, yeah,

922
00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:48,001
it was.

923
00:44:48,081 --> 00:44:48,684
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

924
00:44:48,704 --> 00:44:51,217
Speaker 1: They definitely did
and like, dude, like how insane

925
00:44:51,257 --> 00:44:54,286
was it was like fey and spike
were like in the middle of like

926
00:44:54,306 --> 00:44:57,260
a space battle and they had this
beautiful music playing on the

927
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,458
backdrop and it just it fit so
well in that moment, like it was

928
00:45:00,458 --> 00:45:05,215
music that wouldn't normally
fit within a, you know, a battle

929
00:45:05,215 --> 00:45:09,304
like that, but it fit so well
with the theme of that show,

930
00:45:09,724 --> 00:45:12,539
like you're so used to watching
the show and how they fit this

931
00:45:12,619 --> 00:45:16,693
music in that it just felt so
natural in that moment that's a

932
00:45:16,713 --> 00:45:19,380
really good point and I that
that harkens back to like what I

933
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:21,443
was trying to get at last week.

934
00:45:21,543 --> 00:45:26,815
Speaker 2: Even there's scenes
where it has a juxtaposition

935
00:45:26,954 --> 00:45:33,266
between action and very mellow,
I should say, or melodic music

936
00:45:33,425 --> 00:45:36,797
that you wouldn't necessarily
put on something like that.

937
00:45:36,797 --> 00:45:39,204
A lot of times you would put
something a little bit more

938
00:45:39,264 --> 00:45:42,541
energetic, but it almost causes
you to like hold your breath

939
00:45:43,143 --> 00:45:46,782
because it's it's sounds like
something's about to happen and

940
00:45:46,842 --> 00:45:51,114
it's a it's a real, just
genuinely cool way to

941
00:45:51,193 --> 00:45:52,356
incorporate music into it.

942
00:45:52,356 --> 00:45:53,599
So really quick.

943
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:56,706
Anthony, you said that it was
expensive and that you know it

944
00:45:56,726 --> 00:45:57,536
must have taken a long time.

945
00:45:57,536 --> 00:46:01,963
It took about two years to
animate this season, which is a

946
00:46:02,003 --> 00:46:06,335
very long time for you know
anime for because an episode's

947
00:46:06,376 --> 00:46:10,489
usually like four weeks all
together and usually they're not

948
00:46:10,489 --> 00:46:12,155
four weeks consecutively.

949
00:46:12,155 --> 00:46:13,523
You know like they're
overlapped.

950
00:46:13,523 --> 00:46:14,974
You know like you have
different teams working on

951
00:46:14,994 --> 00:46:18,500
different animations, but the
estimated cost at the time was

952
00:46:18,539 --> 00:46:23,686
around 300 to 500 000 us dollars
, and the average at the time,

953
00:46:24,108 --> 00:46:28,340
you know, for other anime that
inflated was no, that's that's.

954
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,764
That's the average cost.

955
00:46:30,405 --> 00:46:34,175
Speaker 1: The time 300 000 to
500 000 that's a lot of money

956
00:46:34,454 --> 00:46:35,637
for the 90s dude.

957
00:46:36,398 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: So I can imagine
inflated.

958
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,427
Most anime in that era costs
about 100 to 250 per episode,

959
00:46:43,867 --> 00:46:45,329
250 000 per episode.

960
00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: So this is what
almost half a million gets you

961
00:46:49,340 --> 00:46:51,344
as far as animation in that time
period.

962
00:46:51,344 --> 00:46:53,994
And it shows yeah yeah, that
would.

963
00:46:54,195 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: It would be like well
over a million in today's

964
00:46:56,661 --> 00:46:59,527
buckaroos, but yeah, I loved it
guys.

965
00:46:59,527 --> 00:47:02,798
Yeah, this was a really like
incredible show so.

966
00:47:02,938 --> 00:47:07,744
Speaker 1: So yeah, in the first
part of the, in part one, we

967
00:47:07,844 --> 00:47:09,646
get a little bit of a.

968
00:47:09,646 --> 00:47:12,969
You know, we talked a little
bit of the standoff between

969
00:47:13,050 --> 00:47:16,719
Spike and Vicious, whereas in
this one we finally get like

970
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:20,688
that last standoff between Spike
and Vicious.

971
00:47:20,688 --> 00:47:22,362
What were y'all's thought about
that?

972
00:47:22,362 --> 00:47:25,978
You know, spike finally got
julia, came back into his life

973
00:47:26,338 --> 00:47:27,442
and then he lost her.

974
00:47:27,442 --> 00:47:30,887
And you know, was it buddy?

975
00:47:30,887 --> 00:47:32,797
It was a gin gin's brother.

976
00:47:32,818 --> 00:47:34,742
Speaker 2: It was like lynn's
brother chin.

977
00:47:34,802 --> 00:47:38,436
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's
what it was um you know he, you

978
00:47:38,476 --> 00:47:41,181
know he got gunned down right in
front of him like all these

979
00:47:41,201 --> 00:47:43,123
people were getting gunned down
right in front of him, like all

980
00:47:43,143 --> 00:47:44,425
these people were getting gunned
down right in front of him.

981
00:47:44,425 --> 00:47:47,369
And yeah, he finally like gets
that last standoff with Vicious.

982
00:47:47,369 --> 00:47:50,023
I want to know what y'all
thought about that.

983
00:47:50,356 --> 00:47:54,204
Speaker 2: The idea of the Red
Serpent Centicate is touched

984
00:47:54,264 --> 00:47:55,628
upon earlier in the season.

985
00:47:55,628 --> 00:47:59,802
We kind of get the idea that
Jet, or Spike rather, has

986
00:48:00,322 --> 00:48:02,545
absolved himself of that
lifestyle.

987
00:48:02,545 --> 00:48:03,507
He's no longer doing that.

988
00:48:03,507 --> 00:48:04,369
He's a bounty hunter now.

989
00:48:04,369 --> 00:48:08,701
But we, you know, last week we
talked about he has a past with

990
00:48:08,721 --> 00:48:09,583
this girl, julia.

991
00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,103
He has a past with this guy,
vicious.

992
00:48:12,295 --> 00:48:16,440
We're not really sure what the
past is and I think I still need

993
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,175
to rewatch it to fully grasp
what is their past, because

994
00:48:21,295 --> 00:48:24,764
again, it's given to us in
fragmented roles and we're only

995
00:48:24,864 --> 00:48:26,096
told part of the story.

996
00:48:26,157 --> 00:48:26,456
I think.

997
00:48:26,456 --> 00:48:29,726
You know, I think we're meant
to be a little bit in the dark

998
00:48:29,885 --> 00:48:33,481
as to what happened between
points a, b, c through z, you

999
00:48:33,521 --> 00:48:37,797
know, like I think they give us
just enough so that we're coming

1000
00:48:37,797 --> 00:48:39,139
into the movie halfway.

1001
00:48:39,139 --> 00:48:44,186
And that was probably my
biggest gripe last week was that

1002
00:48:44,186 --> 00:48:46,215
I want to know more about Spike
.

1003
00:48:46,215 --> 00:48:49,364
He seems like he's the main
character, at least in the first

1004
00:48:49,364 --> 00:48:49,945
half of the show.

1005
00:48:49,945 --> 00:48:52,942
He seems like he's the primary
character and all of these other

1006
00:48:52,942 --> 00:48:54,425
characters just kind of revolve
around him.

1007
00:48:54,425 --> 00:49:00,367
But it kind of got to the point
where each episode revolved

1008
00:49:00,387 --> 00:49:02,478
around a different character,
you know, by the second half of

1009
00:49:02,699 --> 00:49:03,039
the show.

1010
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:07,181
You had a couple EPs for Ed,
you had a couple EPs for Faye,

1011
00:49:07,255 --> 00:49:11,679
you had a couple EPs for Jet and
Spike actually probably had the

1012
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:15,130
least episodes in the last half
, except for, you know, the

1013
00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:16,275
finale was all about him.

1014
00:49:16,295 --> 00:49:17,601
Speaker 1: Yeah, they capped it
off with him.

1015
00:49:18,295 --> 00:49:21,961
Speaker 2: So to you know my
roundabout way of saying I think

1016
00:49:21,961 --> 00:49:27,956
I really liked the amount that
we are given and it makes me

1017
00:49:28,038 --> 00:49:31,739
want to go back to see if I
missed something, because I'm

1018
00:49:31,798 --> 00:49:32,541
sure I missed something.

1019
00:49:32,541 --> 00:49:36,701
I wasn't fully emotionally
invested into the story, enough

1020
00:49:36,981 --> 00:49:41,887
for me to grasp every single
nuanced line or flashback image

1021
00:49:41,927 --> 00:49:42,347
or whatever.

1022
00:49:42,347 --> 00:49:47,576
But now that I know that the
basic gist is spike used to work

1023
00:49:47,576 --> 00:49:49,599
for the red serpent syndicate.

1024
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:53,065
He broke it off when he found
julia.

1025
00:49:53,065 --> 00:49:54,367
He he loved julia.

1026
00:49:54,367 --> 00:50:01,402
He was somehow found by vicious
and you know they rekindled old

1027
00:50:01,402 --> 00:50:08,510
hatreds or something and
spike's just kind of been aloof

1028
00:50:08,590 --> 00:50:11,541
and on the run from the
syndicate ever since and he's

1029
00:50:11,561 --> 00:50:14,655
just trying to steer clear of
them and now it's too late

1030
00:50:14,695 --> 00:50:19,164
because of the coup and vicious
clearly wants everyone dead so

1031
00:50:19,244 --> 00:50:20,047
he also.

1032
00:50:20,467 --> 00:50:20,949
Speaker 3: He faked his.

1033
00:50:20,949 --> 00:50:22,585
If I remember correctly, he had
faked his death spike.

1034
00:50:22,585 --> 00:50:22,947
Yeah, he fakes his.

1035
00:50:22,947 --> 00:50:24,014
If I remember correctly, he had
faked his death Spike.

1036
00:50:24,034 --> 00:50:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, he fakes his
death.

1037
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:26,222
I think it's that scene.

1038
00:50:28,277 --> 00:50:31,737
Speaker 3: I remember him being
at the store earlier, maybe in

1039
00:50:31,757 --> 00:50:35,601
the second or third, like very
early on, where he's talking to

1040
00:50:35,621 --> 00:50:38,998
like a shopkeeper who says, like
you know now, basically they're

1041
00:50:38,998 --> 00:50:40,443
going to know that you're alive
now.

1042
00:50:40,443 --> 00:50:42,221
I think that's how he gets
discovered.

1043
00:50:51,375 --> 00:50:51,576
Speaker 1: Am I right?

1044
00:50:51,576 --> 00:50:52,418
They're gonna know that you're
alive now.

1045
00:50:52,418 --> 00:50:53,400
I think that's how he gets
discovered, am I right?

1046
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,702
Anthony was it?

1047
00:50:53,702 --> 00:50:53,963
Yeah, he does.

1048
00:50:53,963 --> 00:50:54,425
He did fake his death.

1049
00:50:54,445 --> 00:50:55,527
Speaker 3: He made that promise
to julia that he's pretty much

1050
00:50:55,547 --> 00:50:56,751
done with the syndicate and but
julia's in the syndicate too.

1051
00:50:56,771 --> 00:50:57,775
Speaker 1: She's interpreting
her, her, her like relationship

1052
00:50:57,994 --> 00:51:02,202
is kind of complicated in the
sense that like she's kind of

1053
00:51:02,402 --> 00:51:06,717
straddled between spike and
vicious, but not like romantic.

1054
00:51:06,717 --> 00:51:10,246
It's just weird how she's kind
of wedged in there.

1055
00:51:10,246 --> 00:51:13,896
He's like she's like the
because he asks her.

1056
00:51:14,498 --> 00:51:16,483
Speaker 3: He confronts her,
he's like the.

1057
00:51:16,603 --> 00:51:19,753
Speaker 1: He's like the
obstacle between the syndicate

1058
00:51:19,773 --> 00:51:23,068
life and then like the life that
he wants to live with julia.

1059
00:51:23,652 --> 00:51:27,786
Speaker 2: But julia obviously
like she's kind of ingrained a

1060
00:51:27,846 --> 00:51:31,295
little bit into that because of,
you know, spike's previous life

1061
00:51:31,295 --> 00:51:34,824
yeah, they don't give us enough
information about how she was

1062
00:51:35,023 --> 00:51:39,300
specifically involved in the
syndicate, but at some point I

1063
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,565
don't know if there was like a
bonnie and clyde moment with

1064
00:51:41,606 --> 00:51:45,077
spike and her, where they were
both in the syndicate briefly or

1065
00:51:45,077 --> 00:51:49,221
, you know, if she did smuggling
runs or something we don't, we

1066
00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:54,885
kind of reminds me of Kira from
Solo where we just have that gap

1067
00:51:54,885 --> 00:51:58,288
and that lack of information.

1068
00:51:59,168 --> 00:52:01,831
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about
you, but like I wanted to know

1069
00:52:01,851 --> 00:52:04,717
what happened to Kira in that
time, it would have made a

1070
00:52:04,757 --> 00:52:08,266
little bit more sense how she
went from being caught by the

1071
00:52:08,306 --> 00:52:08,827
Imperials.

1072
00:52:09,315 --> 00:52:12,945
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know there's
certain things that were, you

1073
00:52:12,965 --> 00:52:20,380
know kind of, I guess, left out
for interpretation in a way fair

1074
00:52:20,380 --> 00:52:20,380
.

1075
00:52:21,001 --> 00:52:23,688
Speaker 3: I, you know, I've
I've kind of said it before,

1076
00:52:23,849 --> 00:52:27,637
it's just I like to know, I like
to for lack of a better term I

1077
00:52:27,657 --> 00:52:30,414
like to download all the
information I can on everybody

1078
00:52:31,117 --> 00:52:33,103
and look, it's an authorial
choice, right?

1079
00:52:33,103 --> 00:52:36,233
Or director's choice, whatever
the creator's choice how much

1080
00:52:36,293 --> 00:52:38,166
information they give us about a
character.

1081
00:52:38,166 --> 00:52:41,954
You know and I think I'm just
greedy I just always want more,

1082
00:52:41,994 --> 00:52:42,396
more and more.

1083
00:52:42,396 --> 00:52:43,237
It did.

1084
00:52:43,945 --> 00:52:46,190
I'm not sure if this is where
dakota was going with it, but it

1085
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:51,431
did feel a little bit like he
wasn't the main and it was

1086
00:52:51,592 --> 00:52:52,353
almost.

1087
00:52:52,353 --> 00:52:55,563
I don't want to say it was out
of place that the last two

1088
00:52:55,603 --> 00:52:57,427
episodes were so centered on
Spike.

1089
00:52:57,427 --> 00:53:01,478
But I'm not sure and, like I
said, maybe I agree with Dakota,

1090
00:53:01,478 --> 00:53:03,739
maybe I have to go back and
rewatch it and then kind of

1091
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:06,762
piece it together a little bit
more, but he always felt like

1092
00:53:06,782 --> 00:53:09,490
the main, but he did feel like
the character that we had the

1093
00:53:09,550 --> 00:53:13,146
least amount of information
about, and I don't want to say

1094
00:53:13,186 --> 00:53:19,565
that I didn't believe his love
for Julia, but I don't know how

1095
00:53:19,585 --> 00:53:23,032
to put this if he's supposed to
be the main character he's like

1096
00:53:23,072 --> 00:53:24,235
a pseudo main character.

1097
00:53:24,255 --> 00:53:25,297
Yeah I don't know why.

1098
00:53:25,297 --> 00:53:29,416
I don't know why he loves julia
other than she's a pretty

1099
00:53:29,456 --> 00:53:32,385
blonde girl I think it
represented normalcy for him.

1100
00:53:32,565 --> 00:53:35,230
Speaker 1: I think it
represented a normal life, and

1101
00:53:36,251 --> 00:53:41,400
the idea of her was what kept
him going, because one day he

1102
00:53:41,485 --> 00:53:47,041
wanted to settle down and yeah,
and a lot of times, like in the

1103
00:53:47,061 --> 00:53:49,065
last couple episodes, they
mentioned something along the

1104
00:53:49,106 --> 00:53:53,596
lines of let's just run away and
, you know, stop all this yeah

1105
00:53:53,916 --> 00:53:57,135
but obviously you can't run away
from your past, not when your

1106
00:53:57,155 --> 00:54:00,150
past is the red serpent,
syndicate and vicious, you know,

1107
00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:03,443
trying to kill you yeah, and
then what I thought it was so

1108
00:54:03,503 --> 00:54:07,914
crazy also with the whole setup,
that vicious did, like you know

1109
00:54:07,914 --> 00:54:11,610
, kind of like taking down those
like heads with um yeah, that

1110
00:54:11,630 --> 00:54:12,152
was interesting.

1111
00:54:12,152 --> 00:54:15,264
Yeah, that was kind of cool
that bird that he usually would

1112
00:54:15,344 --> 00:54:19,443
have with them like kind of
secretly like, or had it had

1113
00:54:19,463 --> 00:54:22,190
like explosives and then dropped
down like smoke bombs.

1114
00:54:22,590 --> 00:54:26,425
Speaker 2: That was insane man
what did you guys think of ein

1115
00:54:26,465 --> 00:54:28,391
leaving or ein and ed?

1116
00:54:28,451 --> 00:54:33,342
Speaker 3: I should say I mean
so ed was so close to reuniting

1117
00:54:33,382 --> 00:54:37,432
with her father and I'm not sure
if we're supposed to understand

1118
00:54:37,432 --> 00:54:39,827
that ed is going to find her
father.

1119
00:54:39,827 --> 00:54:42,070
I don't think that was the case
.

1120
00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:46,259
It seemed like just wanted to
break out on her own.

1121
00:54:46,259 --> 00:54:52,195
I guess I get I'm wanting to go
with her, but it did feel like

1122
00:54:52,275 --> 00:54:53,157
it was all.

1123
00:54:53,157 --> 00:54:58,197
I mean, that felt like the
unwinding, the, uh, the what is

1124
00:54:58,297 --> 00:54:58,398
it?

1125
00:54:58,398 --> 00:55:00,065
There's the line from greek
aspie.

1126
00:55:00,085 --> 00:55:04,034
It was like the end of the
convent, canvasary or something

1127
00:55:04,074 --> 00:55:07,048
like that, and it's kind of like
the wheels are falling off

1128
00:55:07,128 --> 00:55:10,858
right and like everyone's
splitting town and I guess I get

1129
00:55:10,858 --> 00:55:12,789
it, but I I thought there was
more.

1130
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:16,338
I don't want to call them a
crew, like a, like a spaceship

1131
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,889
crew, for sure, but I thought
they were more of a team than

1132
00:55:20,208 --> 00:55:23,697
like these, just basically Irish
goodbyes.

1133
00:55:23,697 --> 00:55:26,067
You know, like all right, I'm
out, like I know that that's

1134
00:55:26,106 --> 00:55:30,536
kind of part of Faye's character
where she has this idea that

1135
00:55:30,777 --> 00:55:33,972
I'm not sure if it's attention
seeking in terms of like she

1136
00:55:34,052 --> 00:55:35,195
wants to see if they care.

1137
00:55:35,195 --> 00:55:39,092
So she's like I'm gonna leave
and see if anybody notices or if

1138
00:55:39,092 --> 00:55:42,601
you know, she's kind of trying
to get ahead of them, not

1139
00:55:42,681 --> 00:55:45,289
wanting her around anymore, like
psychologically.

1140
00:55:45,289 --> 00:55:50,983
I don't know where I fall on
her motivations for that, but ed

1141
00:55:50,983 --> 00:55:55,713
leaving was just as mysterious
as ed joining, almost like you

1142
00:55:55,733 --> 00:55:58,925
know it's like what you're gone
he was just there for the

1143
00:55:58,965 --> 00:55:59,306
rockers.

1144
00:55:59,487 --> 00:56:00,090
Speaker 2: I keep saying he.

1145
00:56:00,612 --> 00:56:02,942
Speaker 3: Well then, at the end
of the show then but then the

1146
00:56:03,001 --> 00:56:07,574
father is talking about his son,
so I think ed is supposed to be

1147
00:56:07,574 --> 00:56:13,286
non-binary androgynous yes
non-binary right, like it's not

1148
00:56:13,327 --> 00:56:16,293
surprising that ed's father
would not acknowledge Ed's

1149
00:56:16,355 --> 00:56:19,702
non-binary-ness for lack of a
better term Existence.

1150
00:56:20,304 --> 00:56:26,606
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Ed is a
biological girl, because the

1151
00:56:26,706 --> 00:56:32,295
name that his father gives her
is I forget the name, but it was

1152
00:56:32,295 --> 00:56:33,318
female Francois.

1153
00:56:33,318 --> 00:56:34,940
Was it Francois?

1154
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,601
Speaker 3: Francois, yeah, was
it.

1155
00:56:35,621 --> 00:56:35,862
Speaker 2: Francois.

1156
00:56:35,862 --> 00:56:37,485
Yeah, it was Francois yeah, was
it Francois.

1157
00:56:37,485 --> 00:56:39,492
I would say that's feminine.

1158
00:56:40,485 --> 00:56:42,150
Speaker 3: Well, it's French, so
I just could you know.

1159
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:45,688
Yeah, I'm not sure, actually
I'd have to look that up,

1160
00:56:46,088 --> 00:56:47,914
francois, it's interesting.

1161
00:56:48,704 --> 00:56:51,271
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the name
Francois is primarily a female

1162
00:56:51,291 --> 00:56:52,375
name a French origin.

1163
00:56:52,815 --> 00:56:53,177
Speaker 3: Okay.

1164
00:56:54,027 --> 00:56:56,833
Speaker 2: But you're right, he
wasn't sure if it was a son or a

1165
00:56:56,833 --> 00:57:03,307
daughter, but I took, I
interpreted that not as a gender

1166
00:57:03,307 --> 00:57:04,130
affirming thing, one way or the
other.

1167
00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:05,936
I just think that he was so
aloof and in his own head that

1168
00:57:05,956 --> 00:57:08,105
the fact that he forgot his you
know daughter existed for like

1169
00:57:08,164 --> 00:57:13,233
years is proof that, like this
wasn't a good father ever, you

1170
00:57:13,273 --> 00:57:16,717
know, like he, he didn't care
one way or the other well, I

1171
00:57:16,737 --> 00:57:19,887
mean, you saw how he like took
off, just like right then, and

1172
00:57:19,927 --> 00:57:23,436
there oh yeah, without, without
a thought in his head.

1173
00:57:23,637 --> 00:57:27,971
You know, like work called and
he was off, so I don't think

1174
00:57:28,010 --> 00:57:33,565
that ed was going to visit her
father, but I think that ed's

1175
00:57:33,626 --> 00:57:35,652
time with the crew had ended.

1176
00:57:35,652 --> 00:57:39,545
You know, it was almost like a
hitchhiker and they were back

1177
00:57:39,585 --> 00:57:42,873
home, but I was a little bit
hurt when I left.

1178
00:57:42,873 --> 00:57:44,356
I was just like no, no, no, go
back.

1179
00:57:44,657 --> 00:57:48,989
Speaker 1: There's food there
yeah, well, I mean, like over

1180
00:57:49,048 --> 00:57:54,976
time it kind of you saw that
bond between ed and I kind of

1181
00:57:55,036 --> 00:58:01,724
develop and nobody else like
really cared for for Ein except

1182
00:58:01,744 --> 00:58:02,525
for maybe Jet.

1183
00:58:02,525 --> 00:58:05,570
Jet made sure that that Ein was
like fed.

1184
00:58:05,570 --> 00:58:12,132
But I mean you know that whole
instance of and it was in the

1185
00:58:12,211 --> 00:58:15,762
episodes from last week where
Faye goes in the fridge and

1186
00:58:15,782 --> 00:58:17,849
takes the dog food and like eats
the dog food.

1187
00:58:18,471 --> 00:58:21,188
Speaker 2: That's a good point,
yeah, so I will say that I'm

1188
00:58:21,289 --> 00:58:22,771
happy that Ed is not alone.

1189
00:58:23,452 --> 00:58:23,873
Speaker 1: Ed has a friend.

1190
00:58:23,893 --> 00:58:25,577
Speaker 2: Yes, that was cool.

1191
00:58:25,858 --> 00:58:26,099
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1192
00:58:26,525 --> 00:58:28,050
Speaker 2: Anything else we want
to bring up before we bring

1193
00:58:28,070 --> 00:58:29,034
this to a close.

1194
00:58:29,686 --> 00:58:30,891
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty
good, you know.

1195
00:58:30,891 --> 00:58:35,474
I think that with pretty much
the information that's presented

1196
00:58:35,474 --> 00:58:40,585
in Cowboy Bebop is.

1197
00:58:40,585 --> 00:58:43,213
You know, there's a lot more
that could be broken down, but

1198
00:58:43,253 --> 00:58:46,702
like we would have to turn into
a cowboy bebop podcast, and

1199
00:58:46,742 --> 00:58:52,097
really dive into that we
literally could do an episode on

1200
00:58:52,097 --> 00:58:53,099
each of the episodes.

1201
00:58:53,219 --> 00:58:55,927
Speaker 2: Just that's how much
is present within the show, but

1202
00:58:56,068 --> 00:59:00,007
obviously we got bigger fish to
fry, my friends yeah, just go

1203
00:59:00,027 --> 00:59:03,717
over to geek critique and dakota
will set up a timeline for

1204
00:59:03,817 --> 00:59:04,498
cowboy bebop.

1205
00:59:04,498 --> 00:59:07,530
Y'all can head that way I got a
bunch of timelines on the

1206
00:59:07,550 --> 00:59:11,766
docket I I did consider it
briefly, I was just like okay I

1207
00:59:11,806 --> 00:59:13,351
figured it out, I can make this.

1208
00:59:13,630 --> 00:59:17,179
And then I realized I was gonna
be a 20 30 minute video, maybe

1209
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:17,440
one day.

1210
00:59:17,641 --> 00:59:21,192
But before we close, I just you
meant you guys were mentioning

1211
00:59:21,612 --> 00:59:25,105
Jet and I don't think I got a
word in on on Jet's backstory.

1212
00:59:25,686 --> 00:59:29,711
I just love the idea that he's
like he was always too good,

1213
00:59:30,032 --> 00:59:31,655
even for the police.

1214
00:59:31,655 --> 00:59:36,867
You know, he was an IS, issp or
something like that yeah, issp,

1215
00:59:36,867 --> 00:59:38,610
and he was too good for the
force, and he was an ISSP or

1216
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:40,472
something like that, yeah, issp,
and he was too good for the

1217
00:59:40,512 --> 00:59:43,336
force and he was the only one
who was uncorruptible.

1218
00:59:43,336 --> 00:59:47,661
But he's the one that left the
force and you know he's seen as

1219
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,623
like a vigilante, almost slash,
bounty hunter, that like kind of

1220
00:59:51,623 --> 00:59:52,643
plays outside the rules.

1221
00:59:52,643 --> 00:59:55,548
But he's still the one with the
moral compass and I think that

1222
00:59:55,608 --> 00:59:56,916
at the end, the fact that his
partner was the one with the

1223
00:59:56,936 --> 00:59:58,403
moral compass and I think that
at the end, the fact that his

1224
00:59:58,423 --> 01:00:01,516
partner was the one who betrayed
him and even almost tried

1225
01:00:01,556 --> 01:00:04,005
killing him at the end to get
rid of the evidence I'm assuming

1226
01:00:04,005 --> 01:00:10,237
yeah and it seemed as if he
wasn't going to tell the issp

1227
01:00:11,077 --> 01:00:12,000
what really went down.

1228
01:00:12,059 --> 01:00:14,632
He was just gonna take that to
the grave.

1229
01:00:14,632 --> 01:00:18,240
You know, like this guy had his
noble ends and that's it, you

1230
01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:21,750
know yeah, he was the whole
reason why jet lost his arm too

1231
01:00:22,911 --> 01:00:27,079
I know, yeah, what a jerk, but
jets, jets, the real one.

1232
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:31,170
Guys, thank you so much for
listening to us here for our

1233
01:00:31,391 --> 01:00:34,635
122nd episode.

1234
01:00:34,635 --> 01:00:37,159
Yes, 122nd episode.

1235
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:38,420
What are we covering next week?

1236
01:00:39,144 --> 01:00:39,907
Speaker 3: That's a good
question.

1237
01:00:39,907 --> 01:00:45,193
Like Spike viewers, this will
remain a mystery.

1238
01:00:45,193 --> 01:00:48,612
You'll have to tune in next
week to find out.

1239
01:00:49,646 --> 01:00:51,728
Speaker 2: I actually Would you
guys want to do the new Captain

1240
01:00:51,768 --> 01:00:53,005
America movie that's on Disney.

1241
01:00:53,025 --> 01:00:54,050
Speaker 3: Plus now, yeah, I'll
totally do that?

1242
01:00:55,728 --> 01:00:56,409
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do
that.

1243
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:58,945
Speaker 2: I think it would be
kind of brave I haven't seen it,

1244
01:00:58,945 --> 01:01:02,454
it would be brave of us to do
so all right, guys, next week

1245
01:01:02,735 --> 01:01:04,507
we're gonna do something
extremely brave.

1246
01:01:04,507 --> 01:01:08,438
We're covering captain america
4 quattro.

1247
01:01:08,438 --> 01:01:12,007
Brave new world, previously
known as new world order.

1248
01:01:12,007 --> 01:01:14,795
I get the names confused all
the time online.

1249
01:01:14,795 --> 01:01:18,365
It's just stuck in my head as
Captain America New World Order.

1250
01:01:18,365 --> 01:01:22,675
But yeah, we're gonna cover
Brave New World for episode 123

1251
01:01:22,755 --> 01:01:23,717
of Project Ecology.

1252
01:01:23,717 --> 01:01:27,811
So be there or be square Guys.

1253
01:01:27,811 --> 01:01:31,518
If you liked what you heard
today and you haven't already

1254
01:01:31,858 --> 01:01:37,195
given us a review, please be
sure to make it juicy, kind of

1255
01:01:37,215 --> 01:01:39,347
like those mushrooms that they
were eating that, like you know,

1256
01:01:39,347 --> 01:01:40,331
just opened their mind.

1257
01:01:40,331 --> 01:01:43,364
I want, I want you to open our
mind with your juicy comments.

1258
01:01:43,364 --> 01:01:46,733
Please review us a nice five
star, juicy review.

1259
01:01:46,733 --> 01:01:49,447
And yeah, if you want to check
out any of our socials, be sure

1260
01:01:49,487 --> 01:01:52,373
to click down into the show
notes and you will find us there

1261
01:01:52,373 --> 01:01:52,373
.

1262
01:01:53,014 --> 01:01:56,751
Speaker 1: Any last thoughts on
cowboy bebop gentlemen if y'all

1263
01:01:56,811 --> 01:02:00,699
have not seenbop, you need to
watch it right now.

1264
01:02:00,699 --> 01:02:04,659
Stop what you are doing and go
watch it right now.

1265
01:02:05,402 --> 01:02:07,711
Speaker 2: And if you have, we
spoiled everything but watch it.

1266
01:02:07,731 --> 01:02:08,686
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean.

1267
01:02:08,686 --> 01:02:12,396
Look, you could still enjoy it
even with everything we talked

1268
01:02:12,436 --> 01:02:12,717
about.

1269
01:02:12,717 --> 01:02:16,715
And if you have seen it and you
haven't seen it in a while go

1270
01:02:16,755 --> 01:02:17,456
back and watch it.

1271
01:02:19,184 --> 01:02:19,867
Speaker 2: This is your wake-up
call.

1272
01:02:19,867 --> 01:02:22,818
Go watch cowboy view up again,
or for the first time, rich.

1273
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:25,045
Speaker 3: Last thoughts you
guys done it again.

1274
01:02:25,045 --> 01:02:30,257
You took a genre that I
previously did not dip my toe

1275
01:02:30,338 --> 01:02:34,507
into and you found something
that I can honestly say.

1276
01:02:34,507 --> 01:02:41,239
If you guys are not normally
fans of anime, this is something

1277
01:02:41,239 --> 01:02:45,485
different and it is something
you should take a look at, and I

1278
01:02:45,485 --> 01:02:47,032
think that you will enjoy.

1279
01:02:47,545 --> 01:02:49,072
Speaker 2: You heard it here
first, folks.

1280
01:02:49,072 --> 01:02:51,534
Actually, you've probably heard
it elsewhere before.

1281
01:02:51,534 --> 01:02:55,427
But you've heard it here third
or fourth Tune in next week for

1282
01:02:55,447 --> 01:02:59,106
Captain America Brave New World
and we'll hear from you next

1283
01:02:59,126 --> 01:03:02,835
week you're gonna carry that
weight see you space samurai.