1 00:00:00,140 --> 00:00:01,683 Speaker 1: Alrighty, guys, we are. 2 00:00:01,683 --> 00:00:05,411 You know, here in the undergrounds we are a rebel sect 3 00:00:05,411 --> 00:00:11,047 called the Gentle Lads and you know we are hiding from the 4 00:00:11,166 --> 00:00:11,667 Empire. 5 00:00:11,667 --> 00:00:17,560 Welcome to episode 124 of Project Geekology. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,847 And this week we are covering the first six episodes of Andor, 7 00:00:21,847 --> 00:00:23,370 season two. 8 00:00:23,370 --> 00:00:27,214 And I know, I said you know Rebel Sect of Gentle Lads. 9 00:00:27,214 --> 00:00:30,827 You know it's a little inside joke that we have off of the 10 00:00:30,867 --> 00:00:31,469 podcast. 11 00:00:31,469 --> 00:00:34,463 You know now it's on the podcast, so you guys have joined 12 00:00:34,463 --> 00:00:34,603 us. 13 00:00:34,603 --> 00:00:38,152 But, yes, I am one third of your host, anthony, and joining 14 00:00:38,173 --> 00:00:41,002 me, as always, is Dakota. 15 00:00:41,241 --> 00:00:45,064 Speaker 2: And yeah, gentle Lads is the name of our text group 16 00:00:45,744 --> 00:00:49,847 and I will be sure to change that as soon as possible because 17 00:00:49,847 --> 00:00:51,308 we have to keep you guys guessing. 18 00:00:51,308 --> 00:00:56,273 Yeah, I'm really excited to be talking about Andor, season two, 19 00:00:56,273 --> 00:01:01,036 the first six episodes, a lot of rebel sex activity and yeah, 20 00:01:01,316 --> 00:01:04,781 yeah, my name is Dakota and I'm joined as always with, and, yeah 21 00:01:04,781 --> 00:01:04,983 , my name's. 22 00:01:05,004 --> 00:01:06,073 Speaker 3: Dakota and I'm joined as always with Rich. 23 00:01:06,073 --> 00:01:06,618 Glad to be with you guys. 24 00:01:06,618 --> 00:01:09,664 You know, honestly, my redonium's running a little low 25 00:01:09,765 --> 00:01:16,174 and I just needed a little bit more of a fix of Andor. 26 00:01:16,174 --> 00:01:19,088 So happy to be talking about episodes one through six with 27 00:01:19,129 --> 00:01:19,450 you guys. 28 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:22,625 Speaker 2: Now I'm kind of upset that I didn't start the podcast 29 00:01:22,625 --> 00:01:24,429 in my Saw Gerrera voice. 30 00:01:25,831 --> 00:01:26,492 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. 31 00:01:27,441 --> 00:01:28,546 Speaker 1: You can do that next week. 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,706 Speaker 2: Rhydonium, it's like my sister. 33 00:01:32,248 --> 00:01:32,990 Speaker 3: That was wild. 34 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:35,822 I was very confused, like the first time around. 35 00:01:35,822 --> 00:01:37,328 I was like wait, what's going on? 36 00:01:37,328 --> 00:01:40,043 Man Guys, this guy is. 37 00:01:40,043 --> 00:01:42,509 We find a lot more about Saw Gerrera. 38 00:01:43,210 --> 00:01:43,671 Speaker 1: We do. 39 00:01:43,671 --> 00:01:46,962 But before we get into that, it's been two weeks. 40 00:01:46,962 --> 00:01:51,304 We had a little bit of a week off, but now we are back to it, 41 00:01:51,364 --> 00:01:53,665 strong, with Andor, season 2. 42 00:01:53,665 --> 00:01:57,144 Like I said, it's going to be the first six episodes this week 43 00:01:57,144 --> 00:02:00,581 and then we'll do the remaining episodes next week. 44 00:02:00,581 --> 00:02:03,808 Too bad, we don't wait on Rogue One, because we could have let 45 00:02:03,888 --> 00:02:08,062 up to Rogue One, but we already did a Rogue One episode. 46 00:02:08,062 --> 00:02:13,069 So after you listen to this season, you can go back to the 47 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:15,514 Rogue One episode and go listen to that. 48 00:02:15,514 --> 00:02:18,228 But yes, like I said, it's been two weeks. 49 00:02:18,228 --> 00:02:20,325 I'm going to go to Rich. 50 00:02:20,325 --> 00:02:21,925 Rich, what have you been up to? 51 00:02:21,925 --> 00:02:26,320 And we do know that it's been a lot of baseball, but what else 52 00:02:26,341 --> 00:02:28,544 have you been doing outside of baseball? 53 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:29,467 Speaker 3: I. 54 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:33,133 So I I shockingly do have outside of baseball news, 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,782 although there was much baseball I. 56 00:02:34,782 --> 00:02:35,865 I do want to highlight that. 57 00:02:35,865 --> 00:02:40,114 But I got a for father's day. 58 00:02:40,114 --> 00:02:43,927 My son and my wife got me this. 59 00:02:43,927 --> 00:02:44,990 I should. 60 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:49,539 It's this it looks like an action figure but it's actually 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,548 like a kind of piece of plexiglass, almost that has the 62 00:02:53,668 --> 00:02:54,811 image inside of it. 63 00:02:54,811 --> 00:02:57,502 So it just has me and it says gamer dad. 64 00:02:57,502 --> 00:03:01,007 This is like a normal dad, but much cooler. 65 00:03:01,007 --> 00:03:04,173 And then the controller next to me has my son's name under it. 66 00:03:04,173 --> 00:03:11,907 So I got that and my son's idea was to grab me a N64 controller 67 00:03:11,907 --> 00:03:13,731 that connects to the Switch. 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,812 And I promptly schooled him in Mario 64. 69 00:03:18,812 --> 00:03:23,408 I'm not going to lie, the pure jubilation. 70 00:03:23,408 --> 00:03:29,550 So he immediately was like this is much faster than Mario Kart 71 00:03:29,569 --> 00:03:29,931 Deluxe. 72 00:03:29,931 --> 00:03:34,170 He felt that even the 50ccs was faster for some reason. 73 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:37,969 And man, I remember those. 74 00:03:37,969 --> 00:03:41,909 I wasn't sure if I would remember the shortcuts and where 75 00:03:41,909 --> 00:03:45,762 I needed to drift and where I had to stop drifting, but it all 76 00:03:45,762 --> 00:03:46,243 came back. 77 00:03:46,243 --> 00:03:48,270 You, you fell back into step. 78 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:51,139 Yeah, it was impressive holding that controller. 79 00:03:51,139 --> 00:03:54,349 It was different, like I, it felt different than playing 80 00:03:54,389 --> 00:03:55,473 mario kart deluxe. 81 00:03:55,473 --> 00:03:58,281 I, I just I really enjoyed it. 82 00:03:58,281 --> 00:04:00,768 And then I did something a little crazy. 83 00:04:00,768 --> 00:04:03,282 We've gotten my son a number of things for graduation. 84 00:04:03,282 --> 00:04:05,787 He's graduating fifth grade this year, even though it's just 85 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:08,673 kind of a legal state requirement that everyone has to 86 00:04:08,673 --> 00:04:10,788 go through, because it's not much of an accomplishment. 87 00:04:10,889 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: It's not like you have a choice, but anyway we got 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,048 to celebrate him yeah, you can't get held back in new york 89 00:04:17,088 --> 00:04:19,293 state anymore at that early of an age. 90 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,271 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, but he's been talking about the switch to 91 00:04:23,271 --> 00:04:26,218 a lot and I finally I was gonna ask about that. 92 00:04:26,298 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: I found a tracker. 93 00:04:27,723 --> 00:04:28,504 Speaker 3: I found a tracker. 94 00:04:28,504 --> 00:04:31,812 I found I started following a twitter account and there was, 95 00:04:32,052 --> 00:04:32,721 uh, the. 96 00:04:32,721 --> 00:04:37,029 There was news that they were dropping it on june 11th, so at 97 00:04:37,170 --> 00:04:40,742 like 11 o'clock luckily, my classes are pretty much winding 98 00:04:40,783 --> 00:04:41,084 down. 99 00:04:41,084 --> 00:04:46,192 The rumor was from 9 to 12, so I just basically was just 100 00:04:46,252 --> 00:04:50,886 spamming the reload button and, as luck would have it, I got 101 00:04:50,925 --> 00:04:55,394 myself a pickup model, so it should be arriving on friday. 102 00:04:55,394 --> 00:04:58,927 By the time you guys hear this, I'll hopefully already have it 103 00:04:59,086 --> 00:05:01,432 and unveil the news to charlie. 104 00:05:01,432 --> 00:05:03,862 So I'm very happy to find out that the controller is 105 00:05:03,903 --> 00:05:07,608 compatible with the new one, cause I was like, oh no, what if 106 00:05:07,608 --> 00:05:08,630 it's not compatible? 107 00:05:09,471 --> 00:05:10,713 Speaker 1: but it all is. 108 00:05:10,934 --> 00:05:11,781 Speaker 3: And I'm very excited. 109 00:05:11,781 --> 00:05:15,334 I'm going to be driving to Yonk to go grab this and luckily 110 00:05:15,394 --> 00:05:18,182 it's not a GameStop in Texas, because I don't know if you guys 111 00:05:18,182 --> 00:05:23,531 heard of the news, but it was something like $1.6 million or 112 00:05:23,610 --> 00:05:24,211 more than that. 113 00:05:24,211 --> 00:05:26,415 Switch 2s were stolen. 114 00:05:26,415 --> 00:05:32,100 A shipment was hijacked on its way to GameStop Texas, so 115 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,331 something like 280,000 units or something were stolen. 116 00:05:36,331 --> 00:05:40,348 And just imagine if you had a pre-order and you were about to 117 00:05:40,389 --> 00:05:41,230 go pick that thing up. 118 00:05:41,230 --> 00:05:42,704 That's crazy. 119 00:05:42,725 --> 00:05:43,648 Speaker 2: That's wild actually. 120 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:44,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is actually I did. 121 00:05:44,824 --> 00:05:45,507 That's crazy, that's wild actually. 122 00:05:45,528 --> 00:05:45,951 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is actually. 123 00:05:45,951 --> 00:05:46,454 I did not know that. 124 00:05:46,454 --> 00:05:49,543 That is awesome, though it's amazing that we hold these 125 00:05:49,625 --> 00:05:54,341 things like N64 controllers as pinnacles of creation, but it's 126 00:05:54,382 --> 00:05:56,930 one of the least ergonomical controllers. 127 00:05:57,180 --> 00:05:57,947 Speaker 3: How do you hold it? 128 00:05:57,947 --> 00:05:58,752 It was terrible. 129 00:05:58,752 --> 00:06:00,427 He's like how do you hold this for racing? 130 00:06:05,579 --> 00:06:06,721 Speaker 2: And I'm like oh, you got in the middle here, buddy, 131 00:06:06,742 --> 00:06:08,045 it makes sense, but what an era of gaming like. 132 00:06:08,165 --> 00:06:08,987 Speaker 3: It was such a such a fun time. 133 00:06:08,987 --> 00:06:12,894 I cannot wait till I play him with what is it called slappers 134 00:06:13,095 --> 00:06:17,749 only in golden eye this good old slap fest golden eye session. 135 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:20,783 And then you pick odd job because he's slightly shorter 136 00:06:20,802 --> 00:06:24,216 than the other guys and you have an unfair advantage because 137 00:06:24,257 --> 00:06:25,581 their chops go over your head. 138 00:06:25,581 --> 00:06:27,586 I can't wait to spam him that way like I'm just. 139 00:06:27,586 --> 00:06:32,343 I'm so excited to use my knowledge to once again assert 140 00:06:32,384 --> 00:06:36,072 my gaming dominance in the household yeah, but you know can 141 00:06:36,072 --> 00:06:36,072 . 142 00:06:36,232 --> 00:06:38,384 Speaker 1: Can you beat him in diddy kong racing? 143 00:06:39,267 --> 00:06:41,975 Speaker 3: oh, I mean, that was one of my favorites, I'm not 144 00:06:41,995 --> 00:06:44,723 gonna lie, I really loved using the helicopters in that game, 145 00:06:44,744 --> 00:06:45,485 loved the diddy kong racing man. 146 00:06:45,485 --> 00:06:46,829 Yeah, I think that like one of my favorites, I'm not gonna lie, 147 00:06:46,829 --> 00:06:47,913 I really loved using the helicopters in that game. 148 00:06:47,932 --> 00:06:48,595 Speaker 1: Loved the diddy kong racing man. 149 00:06:48,595 --> 00:06:50,399 Yeah, I think that like one of my favorite things about it was 150 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:55,329 mario kart was fun, but diddy kong racing had like all these 151 00:06:55,370 --> 00:06:58,903 different types of vehicles they had like airplanes, these like 152 00:06:58,963 --> 00:07:02,752 hovercraft, you know regular vehicles, like it would change 153 00:07:02,951 --> 00:07:05,202 up and so like that was one of my favorite things. 154 00:07:05,202 --> 00:07:09,211 And then you had a bunch of like characters across rare that 155 00:07:09,211 --> 00:07:09,833 you could play. 156 00:07:09,833 --> 00:07:13,892 That was fun, but but yeah, um a good tracker? 157 00:07:13,952 --> 00:07:16,380 I don't know if I know that you said that you had been following 158 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:20,891 a tracker but, there is a good one that I had used in the past 159 00:07:20,951 --> 00:07:25,526 called now in stock, and I had actually used that one to snag a 160 00:07:25,526 --> 00:07:27,052 ps5 way back when. 161 00:07:27,052 --> 00:07:27,982 Oh yeah, that one. 162 00:07:28,062 --> 00:07:29,545 Speaker 3: I think I used that one because I had it. 163 00:07:29,545 --> 00:07:32,242 I had that one going on the computer the entire time. 164 00:07:32,242 --> 00:07:35,896 I was searching for a ps5 on the desktop and like that was 165 00:07:35,937 --> 00:07:38,627 during like pandemic time, so I was teaching from home and 166 00:07:38,666 --> 00:07:39,048 everything. 167 00:07:39,048 --> 00:07:42,500 And one late night my wife is sitting in front of the computer 168 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:44,103 and I hear that beep. 169 00:07:44,103 --> 00:07:46,990 Look, it could have been interpreted as other things, but 170 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:49,173 I launched her from that chair. 171 00:07:49,173 --> 00:07:52,990 Essentially I jumped like the Black Panther and just jumped to 172 00:07:52,990 --> 00:07:53,411 get that. 173 00:07:53,411 --> 00:07:55,779 I'll never forget the feeling. 174 00:07:55,779 --> 00:07:58,545 I mean, those were days where I was waking up at I had to teach 175 00:07:58,545 --> 00:08:03,394 at nine or like 830 and I would show up at Walmart in yonkers 176 00:08:03,475 --> 00:08:06,822 or something, because I heard rumors that there were three 177 00:08:06,862 --> 00:08:08,752 available, and I would walk into the store. 178 00:08:08,752 --> 00:08:10,459 They would just be like it's not available. 179 00:08:10,459 --> 00:08:11,605 I'm like thank you, have a good day. 180 00:08:11,605 --> 00:08:14,620 Turn around and then get back, jump in front of the computer, 181 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,187 be like hi guys, sorry, I'm a couple minutes late, it's got 182 00:08:17,206 --> 00:08:17,928 back from walmart. 183 00:08:17,928 --> 00:08:19,321 They're like did you secured a bag? 184 00:08:19,341 --> 00:08:22,545 Speaker 1: I'm like I did not, guys, I did not so you know, the 185 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:27,473 the funny thing is is that, as much of a gamer as I am, I just 186 00:08:27,754 --> 00:08:27,853 I. 187 00:08:27,853 --> 00:08:29,622 I don't care to do all that. 188 00:08:29,622 --> 00:08:32,490 I'm like no, I'm sorry, but no, you're just gonna wait till 189 00:08:32,529 --> 00:08:32,711 it's. 190 00:08:32,730 --> 00:08:34,303 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait until I can get one. 191 00:08:34,585 --> 00:08:37,416 Speaker 1: That's just my thing and dakota knows like I am the 192 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:40,585 gamer of this podcast or like for the longest time. 193 00:08:40,585 --> 00:08:42,871 Like you know, I I talk about all the time that's my thing. 194 00:08:42,871 --> 00:08:46,485 You like where you guys are like watching stuff, I'm feeling 195 00:08:46,485 --> 00:08:47,347 that time gaming. 196 00:08:47,347 --> 00:08:52,542 But when it came to the ps5, I wasn't gonna go try to go to 197 00:08:52,581 --> 00:08:57,591 some back alley behind walmart and do a handshake deal to get a 198 00:08:57,591 --> 00:08:58,153 ps5. 199 00:08:58,153 --> 00:08:59,279 I'm not doing all that. 200 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:03,708 I saw that they had them available to buy at gamStop. 201 00:09:03,708 --> 00:09:06,033 One time I happened to go online. 202 00:09:06,033 --> 00:09:08,445 I ordered it and picked it up and called it a day other than 203 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:08,605 that. 204 00:09:08,605 --> 00:09:09,528 I'm not doing all that. 205 00:09:09,528 --> 00:09:12,202 I'm sorry, I just don't get into the FOMO like that. 206 00:09:12,202 --> 00:09:17,493 When I get the PS5, I get the PS5, you know well, to be fair, 207 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:19,082 I can't remember what game it was. 208 00:09:19,123 --> 00:09:20,488 Speaker 3: There had to be a wrestling game or something. 209 00:09:20,488 --> 00:09:21,542 There's always a reason. 210 00:09:21,542 --> 00:09:22,746 Or maybe it was FIFA. 211 00:09:22,746 --> 00:09:26,682 There was a reason why I needed to get the ps5, not because I 212 00:09:26,761 --> 00:09:31,110 wanted the ps5, but because I think that fifa wasn't releasing 213 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:32,453 one game. 214 00:09:32,453 --> 00:09:33,341 And maybe it wasn't fifa. 215 00:09:33,341 --> 00:09:36,249 There was a game that was not going to be releasing on ps4 216 00:09:36,269 --> 00:09:36,610 anymore. 217 00:09:36,610 --> 00:09:39,506 Maybe it was marvel and with the switch. 218 00:09:39,506 --> 00:09:41,615 Honestly, the only reason I did this is because of charlie. 219 00:09:41,615 --> 00:09:43,802 So, yeah, no, I get that this one. 220 00:09:43,802 --> 00:09:47,731 I actually was like telling him like, dude, the launch titles 221 00:09:47,912 --> 00:09:48,373 are weak. 222 00:09:48,373 --> 00:09:51,701 I mean, you know, mario kart's gonna be fun, but like, then 223 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:52,644 it's over, that's it. 224 00:09:52,644 --> 00:09:55,836 Like, you know, you don't need to rush to get this blah blah, 225 00:09:56,278 --> 00:09:58,124 but he's been watching all those videos on. 226 00:09:58,124 --> 00:10:00,448 He's got, you know, watches youtube as much as the rest of 227 00:10:00,570 --> 00:10:00,669 us. 228 00:10:00,669 --> 00:10:04,134 So he's like, oh and, and the way the controllers go? 229 00:10:04,134 --> 00:10:04,556 Like he's. 230 00:10:04,556 --> 00:10:07,043 And I'm like, dude, you gotta stop watching reviews of the 231 00:10:07,083 --> 00:10:10,471 console, you're gonna go crazy are you? 232 00:10:10,652 --> 00:10:13,908 Speaker 1: did you get the mario kart world bundle one? 233 00:10:13,908 --> 00:10:16,998 Or yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay, that, honestly, that's the 234 00:10:17,038 --> 00:10:18,020 smart play right there. 235 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:22,970 Yeah, because mario kart world is 80 on its own, but when you 236 00:10:22,990 --> 00:10:26,556 get the bundle, you're getting it for 30 cheaper oh, I'm glad 237 00:10:26,576 --> 00:10:28,624 that happened, yeah, yeah so. 238 00:10:28,624 --> 00:10:33,475 So the system itself is 450, the bundle is 500. 239 00:10:33,475 --> 00:10:38,446 So mind you, you buy the 450, say you get the 450 bundle, and 240 00:10:38,485 --> 00:10:39,327 then you buy the game. 241 00:10:39,989 --> 00:10:42,260 Speaker 3: You know you're spending an extra 30 and, gentle 242 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:43,364 lads, I left this part out. 243 00:10:43,364 --> 00:10:45,711 You know what happens with the Switch 1, right? 244 00:10:45,711 --> 00:10:51,844 This guy right here just got a new Switch 1 to play, so it's 245 00:10:51,884 --> 00:10:55,634 the very first hand-me-up in my family that's going to happen. 246 00:10:55,634 --> 00:10:58,120 Where he's going to hand me up the Switch, oh, I like that. 247 00:10:58,139 --> 00:11:10,019 Speaker 2: He doesn't know this yet, but yeah, it's mine so I 248 00:11:10,039 --> 00:11:11,462 just find it so funny that we've gotten to a point in, like tech 249 00:11:11,462 --> 00:11:13,206 cycles that you know we have to make back alley deals, like 250 00:11:13,226 --> 00:11:17,176 they're like drugs, you know, like my precious right. 251 00:11:18,864 --> 00:11:22,052 Speaker 3: So yeah, it just makes you wonder it makes me 252 00:11:22,072 --> 00:11:24,817 feel like I was part of the rebellion, honestly like I feel 253 00:11:24,857 --> 00:11:29,847 like I could be hanging out with andor and bix and cintra not, 254 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:30,470 not val. 255 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:31,572 I don't, she doesn't. 256 00:11:31,572 --> 00:11:33,982 I don't like her much I don't. 257 00:11:34,082 --> 00:11:35,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a little harsh. 258 00:11:35,405 --> 00:11:38,253 Speaker 3: I feel bad for her on occasion, but she's a little 259 00:11:38,293 --> 00:11:40,644 harsh yeah, what were you up to the last couple weeks dakota, 260 00:11:40,663 --> 00:11:41,666 last couple weeks, dakota. 261 00:11:42,267 --> 00:11:44,311 Speaker 2: Last couple weeks yeah, because it's been two 262 00:11:44,350 --> 00:11:48,509 weeks since we recorded last but you know, not a whole lot. 263 00:11:48,509 --> 00:11:54,807 I in my personal life my, you know, secular work I am training 264 00:11:54,807 --> 00:11:54,807 . 265 00:11:54,807 --> 00:11:58,764 Right now I'm doing like a bunch of test prep for my 266 00:11:58,924 --> 00:12:02,485 journeyman's license, so I'm excited about that. 267 00:12:02,485 --> 00:12:06,028 That should be coming two Saturdays from now that I take 268 00:12:06,068 --> 00:12:10,028 that test, and so just a lot of like studying learning diagrams, 269 00:12:10,028 --> 00:12:16,004 understanding Ohm's law, stuff like that, and, yeah, a lot of 270 00:12:16,125 --> 00:12:17,005 like last minute. 271 00:12:17,005 --> 00:12:21,039 Not a lot, you know for riches and a lot, but for me it is a 272 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:22,160 lot of baseball games. 273 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,923 I've just been supporting my local New York teams. 274 00:12:24,923 --> 00:12:30,727 One team won and the other team lost, but I enjoyed myself. 275 00:12:30,727 --> 00:12:31,528 Baseball is fun. 276 00:12:31,528 --> 00:12:33,049 I went to two games. 277 00:12:33,049 --> 00:12:36,613 It wasn't a Mets versus Yankees game, it was Yankees versus Red 278 00:12:36,613 --> 00:12:36,933 Sox. 279 00:12:36,933 --> 00:12:37,374 They won. 280 00:12:37,374 --> 00:12:41,177 And I went to a Mets game and they lost, but the food was 281 00:12:41,216 --> 00:12:41,437 better. 282 00:12:41,437 --> 00:12:43,969 The food was better than Yankee Stadium. 283 00:12:43,969 --> 00:12:44,938 That's what matters in the end. 284 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:48,750 Speaker 1: I know you made Rich proud by going to see the Mets. 285 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,014 Speaker 2: I will also make Rich proud by announcing that I had 286 00:12:54,054 --> 00:12:57,447 two hot dogs at the Yankee Stadium and I had two hot dogs 287 00:12:57,567 --> 00:12:58,269 at Mets Stadium. 288 00:12:58,269 --> 00:13:01,749 The two dogs at Yankee Stadium were the worst glizzies of my 289 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:02,070 life. 290 00:13:02,070 --> 00:13:07,883 Like they were just it was like pre-made, like wrapped hot dogs 291 00:13:07,883 --> 00:13:10,489 and the buns were like squished , like they were like rolled 292 00:13:10,528 --> 00:13:11,451 into little burritos. 293 00:13:11,451 --> 00:13:13,022 I was and I was like what is? 294 00:13:13,022 --> 00:13:13,943 This is the worst. 295 00:13:13,943 --> 00:13:19,360 The condiment station sucked, so that was rough, but I I had a 296 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,629 pretty good hot dog, two hot dogs actually at that stadium. 297 00:13:23,629 --> 00:13:26,061 So, and listen, you know if you ever field, if you ever. 298 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,168 Speaker 3: If you ever feel in randy and you want to go out on 299 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:28,811 a tuesday? 300 00:13:28,811 --> 00:13:33,005 All right, on tuesdays they got five dollar dogs and if you 301 00:13:33,025 --> 00:13:35,333 hang with me I have a 15 discount. 302 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:36,518 All right, so that's even. 303 00:13:36,518 --> 00:13:41,525 You're getting better guzzies at a discount price wow, it's 304 00:13:41,546 --> 00:13:42,888 like 425 a dog. 305 00:13:42,888 --> 00:13:47,654 That's crazy, I am honestly wowed that you were able to do 306 00:13:47,715 --> 00:13:49,163 that math in. 307 00:13:49,163 --> 00:13:51,730 Never in a million years would I have a time. 308 00:13:51,730 --> 00:13:53,596 I just get really happy. 309 00:13:53,596 --> 00:13:56,083 Whenever I use the discount, I'm like, oh, look at that. 310 00:13:56,504 --> 00:13:58,549 Speaker 2: I never have a conception of what I actually 311 00:13:58,590 --> 00:13:59,759 don't know if that math is correct. 312 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:02,062 I'm gonna look that up really quick. 313 00:14:02,062 --> 00:14:05,025 Five times 0.15. 314 00:14:05,025 --> 00:14:06,326 Yeah, I was right. 315 00:14:06,326 --> 00:14:11,652 Wow, oh, 4.25 a dog Plus tax baby Can't beat that, anthony. 316 00:14:11,672 --> 00:14:13,274 Speaker 3: you got to come up here, man, just for the glizzies 317 00:14:13,274 --> 00:14:14,475 on Tuesdays, does it? 318 00:14:14,475 --> 00:14:17,932 It's actually really good, just fly up from my, I'll pick you 319 00:14:17,951 --> 00:14:18,418 up from LaGuardia. 320 00:14:18,418 --> 00:14:20,106 It's right outside the stadium. 321 00:14:20,106 --> 00:14:22,168 All right him, all right, and then we'll go grab some dogs, 322 00:14:22,249 --> 00:14:24,850 and then you know and then maybe watch some people throw a ball 323 00:14:24,890 --> 00:14:25,091 around. 324 00:14:25,510 --> 00:14:27,251 Speaker 2: Anyway, anthony, what have you been up to this past 325 00:14:27,352 --> 00:14:27,852 couple weeks? 326 00:14:27,893 --> 00:14:29,995 Speaker 1: tell me, tell me I'm gonna be honest with you, though 327 00:14:29,995 --> 00:14:29,995 . 328 00:14:29,995 --> 00:14:32,375 Like hot dogs are, like not even my favorite. 329 00:14:32,375 --> 00:14:33,557 Like if they're. 330 00:14:33,557 --> 00:14:36,687 If I'm at a party and there's a choice between hamburgers and 331 00:14:36,706 --> 00:14:38,721 hot dogs, I'm going burger all the time. 332 00:14:38,721 --> 00:14:40,344 That's fair. 333 00:14:40,344 --> 00:14:41,686 I'm a burger guy. 334 00:14:41,686 --> 00:14:42,969 Let me ask you a question, anthony. 335 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: He's not in new york you're walking in new york 336 00:14:46,020 --> 00:14:50,173 you're walking through washington dc, you're walking 337 00:14:50,354 --> 00:14:55,164 through apalachia, you're walking through vegas all that 338 00:14:55,205 --> 00:14:57,068 have been hit by nuclear bombs. 339 00:14:57,068 --> 00:15:00,201 When you're walking around those locales, you know what you 340 00:15:00,201 --> 00:15:00,743 never see. 341 00:15:00,743 --> 00:15:02,408 You never see a hamburger. 342 00:15:02,408 --> 00:15:06,720 But you know how many hot dogs I've seen in fallout 76. 343 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,686 My friend, the structural integrity is fine. 344 00:15:09,686 --> 00:15:11,250 Here's the thing about hamburgers. 345 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:14,606 That person at that party do you know if they know how to 346 00:15:14,626 --> 00:15:15,692 cook a burger the right way? 347 00:15:15,692 --> 00:15:19,423 What if you get slightly ill from the temperature of the meat 348 00:15:19,423 --> 00:15:19,423 ? 349 00:15:19,904 --> 00:15:22,831 Speaker 2: hot dogs, or or the opposite, the opposite. 350 00:15:22,831 --> 00:15:26,741 You can be like having, you know, a cookout with my 351 00:15:26,802 --> 00:15:28,966 father-in-law and you get served some hockey pucks. 352 00:15:29,107 --> 00:15:31,432 Speaker 3: There you go but hot dogs you can't really. 353 00:15:31,432 --> 00:15:33,546 They're already cooked, man, they're already. 354 00:15:33,546 --> 00:15:36,000 You don't even need to really warm them up, man, you can just 355 00:15:36,041 --> 00:15:36,260 eat them. 356 00:15:36,341 --> 00:15:41,052 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, but it just I mean and and honestly, 357 00:15:41,052 --> 00:15:43,163 like if, if you're gonna go fallout, dude, there's still 358 00:15:43,224 --> 00:15:49,028 brahmin, I mean you can ground that beef, but that's true, all 359 00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:49,229 right. 360 00:15:49,229 --> 00:15:53,892 So what I've been up to these past couple of weeks is that. 361 00:15:53,892 --> 00:15:59,211 So I had a con that was a sandwich between this hot dog. 362 00:15:59,211 --> 00:16:01,445 No sandwich between. 363 00:16:01,445 --> 00:16:05,086 Like these two weeks, like I got to go to Otaku Fest. 364 00:16:05,807 --> 00:16:06,971 Speaker 2: Nice, tell us. 365 00:16:08,643 --> 00:16:09,986 Speaker 1: But yeah, I had Otaku Fest. 366 00:16:09,986 --> 00:16:11,490 It's con time. 367 00:16:11,490 --> 00:16:15,363 Cons are kicking in the tickets for this convention. 368 00:16:15,363 --> 00:16:20,068 I actually had won them back in February by cosplaying Obi-Wan 369 00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:20,509 Kenobi. 370 00:16:21,471 --> 00:16:23,053 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, I've seen that picture. 371 00:16:23,614 --> 00:16:24,596 Speaker 2: Clever, clever. 372 00:16:27,620 --> 00:16:27,980 Speaker 1: Best show on TV? 373 00:16:28,061 --> 00:16:29,284 Speaker 2: Yeah, man always I mean, you know how it is man. 374 00:16:29,304 --> 00:16:31,210 Speaker 1: I always have a good time going to conventions and 375 00:16:31,250 --> 00:16:35,428 stuff man yeah, you're definitely a con man I am a con 376 00:16:36,211 --> 00:16:39,357 man you should come up to nycc man. 377 00:16:39,458 --> 00:16:40,399 Speaker 3: I just procured tickets. 378 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:43,583 The fam and I are definitely going on friday up here oh, and 379 00:16:43,625 --> 00:16:46,869 they started selling tickets yeah, yeah, I secured the pro 380 00:16:46,889 --> 00:16:52,034 pass or educators pass, and then they got the friday passes well 381 00:16:52,034 --> 00:16:55,966 , nice I mean I have been wanting to go to new york 382 00:16:56,006 --> 00:16:56,589 comic-con. 383 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:59,522 Speaker 1: It's been a while but yeah, I went up there and I I 384 00:16:59,581 --> 00:17:03,509 went with dakota and gen one year anthony, listen, we're 385 00:17:03,529 --> 00:17:05,113 thinking about going as thunderbolts. 386 00:17:05,641 --> 00:17:07,324 Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna be bucky. 387 00:17:07,324 --> 00:17:13,173 All right, my wife is going to be elena, my son is going to be. 388 00:17:13,173 --> 00:17:14,502 Who do you want to be? 389 00:17:14,502 --> 00:17:17,750 I'm blanking out right now, but we need a red guardian. 390 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:19,401 Oh yeah, he wants to be century . 391 00:17:19,401 --> 00:17:21,105 You could be red guardian man. 392 00:17:21,105 --> 00:17:24,872 I've seen you bald, like, I think a little good, and I can 393 00:17:24,912 --> 00:17:25,432 be the leader. 394 00:17:25,532 --> 00:17:34,355 Speaker 1: Let's go all you have to do is just get stung by a 395 00:17:34,434 --> 00:17:35,517 dozen of bees. 396 00:17:35,517 --> 00:17:39,284 Jen could be the that betsy that look like him who's betsy? 397 00:17:39,444 --> 00:17:41,469 Speaker 3: she's got some relation to the hulk. 398 00:17:41,469 --> 00:17:43,192 Betsy ross somehow is related to hulk. 399 00:17:43,192 --> 00:17:45,808 Maybe, uh, jen could be bety Ross. 400 00:17:45,808 --> 00:17:46,230 I don't know. 401 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:48,086 Speaker 2: Somehow, some way. 402 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:49,886 Speaker 3: Something about there's some relationship to 403 00:17:49,926 --> 00:17:50,107 Hulk. 404 00:17:50,107 --> 00:17:50,826 I don't know what it is. 405 00:17:50,826 --> 00:17:52,461 Is that his estranged daughter? 406 00:17:53,224 --> 00:17:55,846 Speaker 2: No, that's the nurse that stuck him with Gamma. 407 00:17:55,846 --> 00:17:58,028 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she sucks . 408 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:03,064 Speaker 3: Well, maybe we should . 409 00:18:03,064 --> 00:18:04,789 Sorry, but I think we've deviated. 410 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,963 Speaker 2: Alright, go ahead, tell us about otaku con or otaku 411 00:18:08,963 --> 00:18:10,286 fest otaku fest man. 412 00:18:10,326 --> 00:18:12,589 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, just straight. 413 00:18:13,310 --> 00:18:17,763 Speaker 2: Otaku tastic man, you know so, for those of you who 414 00:18:17,983 --> 00:18:22,250 don't know, this is a anime themed convention, correct? 415 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:25,453 Speaker 1: yeah, I mean, you know you can there. 416 00:18:25,453 --> 00:18:30,390 There's always going to be stuff that's not anime related 417 00:18:30,430 --> 00:18:34,400 there, but it's definitely a little bit more geared towards 418 00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:35,784 that when you think of otaku. 419 00:18:35,784 --> 00:18:37,450 You know obviously that's. 420 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:38,472 You know they're. 421 00:18:38,472 --> 00:18:42,103 They're using that japanese word that kind of describes 422 00:18:42,124 --> 00:18:45,730 somebody who's like obsessive over, you know, nerdy stuff. 423 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:48,122 And yeah, man, it was good it. 424 00:18:48,122 --> 00:18:52,352 They had moved it back to the original convention center that 425 00:18:52,392 --> 00:18:53,012 it was at. 426 00:18:53,012 --> 00:18:57,387 I guess it had outgrown it and so they tried to like move it to 427 00:18:57,387 --> 00:19:01,982 another one, but that one was way too big for it and I think 428 00:19:02,023 --> 00:19:03,666 that it costed a lot more money. 429 00:19:03,666 --> 00:19:06,962 So now they moved it back to its original space. 430 00:19:06,962 --> 00:19:10,655 The problem with the last time when it was in that space, I 431 00:19:10,695 --> 00:19:11,819 think they oversold. 432 00:19:11,819 --> 00:19:16,650 It's just crazy that these places like they oversell and 433 00:19:16,670 --> 00:19:19,741 their tickets and stuff, you know yeah, oh question, anthony. 434 00:19:19,781 --> 00:19:21,384 Speaker 3: You said that you were seeing how to train your 435 00:19:21,423 --> 00:19:25,067 dentist over the weekend how to train your dentist these guys, 436 00:19:25,188 --> 00:19:30,114 these guys all right, wait, wait , rich explain it so I'm, you 437 00:19:30,134 --> 00:19:33,784 know we have a group chat going on and anthony goes hey guys, I 438 00:19:33,804 --> 00:19:38,071 think I'm gonna go see ht how to train. 439 00:19:38,071 --> 00:19:43,041 Yeah, httyd, and I'm I'm racking my brain over here. 440 00:19:43,041 --> 00:19:44,727 Guys, I have no idea. 441 00:19:44,727 --> 00:19:47,661 I'm like, and after just like an hour, I think, of pulling my 442 00:19:47,701 --> 00:19:51,829 hair, I was just like can someone please tell me what hd? 443 00:19:51,829 --> 00:19:56,247 So now they go off with uh, how to train your dentist? 444 00:19:57,028 --> 00:19:58,874 Speaker 2: it's just how to train your dog. 445 00:19:58,874 --> 00:20:00,136 Yeah, I mean. 446 00:20:00,438 --> 00:20:03,522 Speaker 3: I got the message loud and clear after that, but I 447 00:20:03,522 --> 00:20:04,845 felt a you know. 448 00:20:04,845 --> 00:20:08,891 I guess I just completely forgot because I think in my 449 00:20:08,931 --> 00:20:11,875 worldview it doesn't feel like that long ago that I saw how to 450 00:20:11,894 --> 00:20:12,556 Train your Dragon. 451 00:20:13,099 --> 00:20:15,461 Speaker 1: You know, like my son we watched it Same for me, so 452 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:15,862 like. 453 00:20:16,182 --> 00:20:19,060 Speaker 3: I've seen it within the last five or six years, so I 454 00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:21,227 didn't know that there was a need for another one. 455 00:20:21,406 --> 00:20:24,695 Speaker 2: It's a it's, so it's a live action version of the 456 00:20:24,776 --> 00:20:29,205 animated film and it's very, very closely like, linked to the 457 00:20:29,205 --> 00:20:30,307 animated film. 458 00:20:30,307 --> 00:20:30,950 Apparently. 459 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:31,590 That did you. 460 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:32,373 Did you watch it, anthony? 461 00:20:32,373 --> 00:20:33,240 I haven't so. 462 00:20:33,662 --> 00:20:37,368 Speaker 1: So that was the plan with my group of friends, but we 463 00:20:37,368 --> 00:20:39,374 ended up not being able to go and see it. 464 00:20:39,374 --> 00:20:41,344 We just got caught up in in our own stuff. 465 00:20:41,344 --> 00:20:46,353 But it was the plan, but by the time that time kind of rolled 466 00:20:46,393 --> 00:20:51,250 around, we're too tired from you know just just living. 467 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:56,423 Yeah, just tired of living just living yeah but it is, it is a 468 00:20:56,463 --> 00:20:56,724 plan. 469 00:20:56,724 --> 00:20:57,769 I do want to see it. 470 00:20:57,769 --> 00:21:01,806 I mean, maybe I might I could go and see it tomorrow, because 471 00:21:01,846 --> 00:21:02,911 I don't work tomorrow. 472 00:21:02,911 --> 00:21:07,240 Tomorrow is juneteenth and since it's a federal holiday, 473 00:21:08,162 --> 00:21:11,354 you know, the bank follows the federal holiday and so we all 474 00:21:11,394 --> 00:21:15,001 have it off awesome, cool awesome, you got that you have 475 00:21:15,021 --> 00:21:19,238 tomorrow off as well, rich right yeah, actually I got a sweet 476 00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:21,891 four-day weekend because my son's graduation on friday. 477 00:21:21,911 --> 00:21:24,957 So well, you should be finishing school up soon, right? 478 00:21:24,957 --> 00:21:28,182 Next Friday is the last day. 479 00:21:28,182 --> 00:21:31,535 Yeah, there you go, the kids down in South Florida. 480 00:21:31,535 --> 00:21:36,003 They've been done with school for a week or so now. 481 00:21:36,690 --> 00:21:38,857 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they go back a little earlier, I think. 482 00:21:38,857 --> 00:21:41,659 I think you guys, they go back, yeah, they start earlier, yeah, 483 00:21:41,659 --> 00:21:41,980 they do. 484 00:21:43,352 --> 00:21:46,818 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what I've been up to, but we're a 485 00:21:46,878 --> 00:21:48,309 bit deep into the recording. 486 00:21:48,309 --> 00:21:51,876 Shall we talk about and or season two? 487 00:21:52,699 --> 00:21:55,063 Speaker 3: episodes one through six just call it an episode. 488 00:21:55,063 --> 00:21:55,852 I think this is good. 489 00:21:55,852 --> 00:21:56,354 This was fun. 490 00:21:56,354 --> 00:21:57,780 Uh, we'll see you guys next week. 491 00:21:57,780 --> 00:21:59,769 Thanks for uh being thanks for listening. 492 00:21:59,769 --> 00:22:00,371 Leave. 493 00:22:00,531 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: Leave a review for four stars, we'll make an and or 494 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:05,403 season two, one through six mini. 495 00:22:05,403 --> 00:22:08,104 So that is not sorry guys. 496 00:22:08,124 --> 00:22:10,816 Speaker 1: Let's start talking about that, right, donium boys 497 00:22:11,719 --> 00:22:14,950 no, you have to say it the right way, dakota let's start talking 498 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:16,252 about the right donium boys. 499 00:22:17,415 --> 00:22:17,997 Speaker 2: No, that was a bad. 500 00:22:17,997 --> 00:22:18,638 That was a bad one. 501 00:22:18,638 --> 00:22:23,435 I I'm really good at like redoing his lines, but I can't 502 00:22:24,317 --> 00:22:27,343 just create new lines for him, like if that makes sense. 503 00:22:27,343 --> 00:22:33,624 But yeah, so Andor is back and potentially better than ever. 504 00:22:33,624 --> 00:22:37,239 A lot of people are saying that this is the best season of the 505 00:22:37,278 --> 00:22:37,861 two seasons. 506 00:22:37,861 --> 00:22:42,011 You know, it's not a super, it is a high bar, but it's not like 507 00:22:42,011 --> 00:22:44,115 an incredibly high bar because there's only one other season. 508 00:22:44,115 --> 00:22:48,109 What do you guys think of the start to this season? 509 00:22:48,109 --> 00:22:51,876 Some people are like in the camp where first six episodes 510 00:22:51,916 --> 00:22:52,397 are boring. 511 00:22:52,397 --> 00:22:56,635 Some people are like, you know, getting on their knees and just 512 00:22:56,635 --> 00:22:59,949 like bowing down, like it's, it's the best thing since sliced 513 00:22:59,949 --> 00:23:00,109 bread. 514 00:23:00,109 --> 00:23:00,750 What do you guys think? 515 00:23:01,132 --> 00:23:03,696 Speaker 1: I think it was pretty good. 516 00:23:03,696 --> 00:23:06,762 I would say, like the the first . 517 00:23:06,762 --> 00:23:10,391 To me it starts off a little bit stronger than maybe the 518 00:23:10,471 --> 00:23:14,417 first season of andor, and the first season of andor was really 519 00:23:14,417 --> 00:23:16,020 good anyway. 520 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:18,974 But you have to get those characters established. 521 00:23:18,974 --> 00:23:21,744 But now that you have those characters that are established, 522 00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:23,490 it was able to go. 523 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:25,075 You know a little bit, you know start a little bit. 524 00:23:25,075 --> 00:23:27,501 You know start a little bit stronger. 525 00:23:27,501 --> 00:23:30,650 You know we don't have to figure out who Luthan is, we 526 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:33,538 don't have to figure out who Bix is, because they were explained 527 00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:34,480 in that first season. 528 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,739 I would say the first season crawled so that this season 529 00:23:38,798 --> 00:23:43,135 could run not walk but run and it was solid. 530 00:23:43,135 --> 00:23:46,375 I mean, I liked the first six episodes and there's a lot of 531 00:23:46,454 --> 00:23:49,601 parallels to things that happened in real life that I 532 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,285 definitely picked up on in these episodes. 533 00:23:53,151 --> 00:23:53,372 Speaker 3: Rich. 534 00:23:53,372 --> 00:23:53,974 What are your thoughts? 535 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:58,336 So I think I would have been in the first camp after my first 536 00:23:58,476 --> 00:24:03,323 watch through, because I think that I appreciated some of the 537 00:24:03,383 --> 00:24:04,785 relationships more. 538 00:24:04,785 --> 00:24:07,737 I mean, I love the series. 539 00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:09,101 I just think that it would the. 540 00:24:10,152 --> 00:24:13,640 It's difficult for me to just say like this first six are slow 541 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,873 , because I think once you watch the whole thing on second 542 00:24:16,913 --> 00:24:20,883 rewatch and of course I did like a third rewatch, but it's all 543 00:24:21,002 --> 00:24:26,739 the interactions are so what's the word pregnant, that there's 544 00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:30,265 so much to them that you don't even know until you finish the 545 00:24:30,325 --> 00:24:30,644 series. 546 00:24:30,644 --> 00:24:33,999 And then you go back and now these moments, the way they're 547 00:24:34,078 --> 00:24:37,615 playing off each other, the moments between the Imperial, 548 00:24:37,635 --> 00:24:42,213 the ISB and kind of that dance that's going on there, even the 549 00:24:42,273 --> 00:24:49,731 dance between Deirdre and Cyril's mother, between Deirdre 550 00:24:49,751 --> 00:24:51,016 and Cyril's mother, I mean everything like once you know 551 00:24:51,036 --> 00:24:51,396 more just becomes. 552 00:24:51,396 --> 00:24:54,165 They did such a great job of setting the groundwork for the 553 00:24:54,205 --> 00:24:58,234 series to have a really impactful end and I mean that 554 00:24:58,615 --> 00:25:02,082 cutaway scene from the wedding, you know, is just. 555 00:25:02,082 --> 00:25:06,317 It's amazing how they made that just be something. 556 00:25:06,317 --> 00:25:07,180 That was so. 557 00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:11,880 Even though I already watched it, I was on the edge of my seat 558 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,240 again. 559 00:25:12,902 --> 00:25:15,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're talking about the cutaway to the 560 00:25:15,194 --> 00:25:17,141 wedding, specifically in episode three. 561 00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:21,219 I'm assuming it's the scene where everyone's dancing. 562 00:25:21,219 --> 00:25:22,742 Yes, correct, yeah. 563 00:25:22,742 --> 00:25:26,071 So that's such a fantastic moment for me and that was like 564 00:25:26,172 --> 00:25:27,236 a big like wow. 565 00:25:27,236 --> 00:25:28,599 I can't believe they pulled that off. 566 00:25:29,210 --> 00:25:31,818 So there's a couple things happening all at once. 567 00:25:31,818 --> 00:25:37,382 You know it's the climax of several plots within this 4 BBY 568 00:25:37,461 --> 00:25:37,823 setting. 569 00:25:37,823 --> 00:25:41,819 So it's like a year, a little over a year, since the first 570 00:25:41,859 --> 00:25:42,701 season took place. 571 00:25:42,701 --> 00:25:48,940 And you know, andor, bix, brassoso and wilmon are on the 572 00:25:49,059 --> 00:25:49,441 on the run. 573 00:25:49,441 --> 00:25:53,638 They're living on this agricultural world being 574 00:25:53,699 --> 00:25:56,349 mechanics and they're basically just hiding away from the empire 575 00:25:56,349 --> 00:25:58,634 while also doing luthens bidding. 576 00:25:58,634 --> 00:26:02,623 Andor is often like a side side job for a bit of this first 577 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:06,596 three episode arc and it all comes to a head. 578 00:26:06,596 --> 00:26:10,544 You know where the, the empire catches up to them. 579 00:26:10,544 --> 00:26:13,997 They rasso ends up dying and they leave that planet. 580 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:17,711 All the while, there's a whole bunch of stuff happening with 581 00:26:17,771 --> 00:26:20,460 mon mothma at the exact same time, or we assume it's the 582 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,080 exact same time. 583 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,362 It could. 584 00:26:21,362 --> 00:26:24,174 It could be different time periods, but whatever and what? 585 00:26:24,174 --> 00:26:29,624 What's fantastic about the way that they did that was they used 586 00:26:29,624 --> 00:26:32,294 the music of the dance. 587 00:26:32,294 --> 00:26:36,041 So there's a bunch of stuff happening with Mon Mothma. 588 00:26:36,041 --> 00:26:39,134 She doesn't want her daughter to get married to this thug's 589 00:26:39,596 --> 00:26:40,597 son, basically. 590 00:26:40,597 --> 00:26:45,034 But she's young, she's dumb and she thinks that she's in love 591 00:26:45,153 --> 00:26:47,801 and she know she's gonna go full steam ahead with this marriage 592 00:26:48,932 --> 00:26:55,069 and on top of that, the integrity of, or the secret of, 593 00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:59,270 their rebellion and her you know , funds that go towards it are 594 00:26:59,310 --> 00:27:03,671 about to potentially be dried out in the open, as her friends 595 00:27:04,573 --> 00:27:05,875 is now ready to. 596 00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:09,844 He's not getting that end of the deal anymore and he's 597 00:27:09,890 --> 00:27:12,798 starting to wonder when he's going to get his cut and it's 598 00:27:12,818 --> 00:27:13,962 starting to get agitated. 599 00:27:13,962 --> 00:27:16,134 You could see he's like sweating for most of this, like 600 00:27:16,173 --> 00:27:20,510 wedding arc and luthen basically tells mon that like we got to 601 00:27:20,530 --> 00:27:21,013 kill this guy. 602 00:27:21,013 --> 00:27:23,325 You know, like no amount of money is going to fix this 603 00:27:23,384 --> 00:27:23,727 problem. 604 00:27:23,727 --> 00:27:28,181 This is going to keep coming back to bite us and to drown out 605 00:27:28,181 --> 00:27:29,311 her sorrow in. 606 00:27:29,532 --> 00:27:32,598 You know, like this childhood friend who has to be killed to 607 00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:36,736 pacify this issue, she literally just drinks and starts dancing 608 00:27:36,776 --> 00:27:40,534 and it's such a fantastic scene because you can see there's no 609 00:27:40,614 --> 00:27:41,496 joy on her face. 610 00:27:41,496 --> 00:27:43,602 But, like when you watch the trailers for this, you're like, 611 00:27:43,642 --> 00:27:46,054 wow, mom's really like getting down at this party. 612 00:27:46,054 --> 00:27:49,500 But when you see the context of what's happening, it's so 613 00:27:49,579 --> 00:27:50,221 fantastic. 614 00:27:50,221 --> 00:27:54,773 And that music that they play, like with the, with the droid 615 00:27:55,355 --> 00:27:59,604 the droid, that's like DJing the party is also used diegetically 616 00:27:59,604 --> 00:27:59,604 . 617 00:27:59,604 --> 00:28:03,796 So diegetic music is like in world music that you hear but 618 00:28:03,896 --> 00:28:07,102 also works as the score for the episode. 619 00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:10,813 They use that diegetically at the end with cassian as well. 620 00:28:10,813 --> 00:28:15,163 So like the intense upbeat music while you know they're on 621 00:28:15,182 --> 00:28:19,482 the run, his friend's just been killed, been murdered, and the 622 00:28:19,522 --> 00:28:22,731 look on his face, you know, mixed with mon dancing super 623 00:28:22,771 --> 00:28:24,134 chaotically and drinking heavily . 624 00:28:24,134 --> 00:28:29,503 It's's just such a fantastic buildup to that last episode. 625 00:28:30,289 --> 00:28:32,515 Speaker 1: Right, it's almost like the emotion is kind of 626 00:28:32,634 --> 00:28:33,537 matched there. 627 00:28:33,537 --> 00:28:37,913 You know, I mean sure, you know you have Cassian that is 628 00:28:38,233 --> 00:28:41,662 mourning the loss of his friends , but then you also have Mon 629 00:28:41,682 --> 00:28:45,135 Mothma that's kind of mourning the loss of, you know, her 630 00:28:45,155 --> 00:28:45,737 daughter in daughter. 631 00:28:45,737 --> 00:28:49,751 In a sense, you know that she's being married to somebody that 632 00:28:50,113 --> 00:28:52,377 you know she didn't want her to get married to. 633 00:28:52,377 --> 00:28:56,393 But, dude, you know, that moment was so strong and it left 634 00:28:56,393 --> 00:29:01,786 me like like wow, this is intense, like it's crazy. 635 00:29:01,786 --> 00:29:06,096 I'm actually a little side note and I I don't know and I hadn't 636 00:29:06,096 --> 00:29:12,273 really realized this in the first season, but then when I 637 00:29:12,314 --> 00:29:16,439 looked at the cast, so I don't know if you realize, but the 638 00:29:16,598 --> 00:29:20,263 actress that portrays Mon Mothma actually does the voice for 639 00:29:20,324 --> 00:29:22,267 Moira in Overwatch. 640 00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:25,259 Speaker 2: I did find that out online recently. 641 00:29:25,259 --> 00:29:27,095 Yeah, I thought that was pretty . 642 00:29:27,214 --> 00:29:29,593 Speaker 1: I was crazy and then, like, when I thought about it, 643 00:29:29,613 --> 00:29:32,580 I was like I see the similarities in a way, you know, 644 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:35,156 like the look, but you know, I thought that that was like a 645 00:29:35,176 --> 00:29:36,942 little neat aside thing. 646 00:29:36,982 --> 00:29:40,030 Speaker 2: But man, it's such a it's actually, like you know, 647 00:29:40,632 --> 00:29:43,355 leaning into that a little bit, it's such a weird contrast 648 00:29:43,557 --> 00:29:47,442 because this is such a fantastic visual actor. 649 00:29:47,442 --> 00:29:51,594 You know, like her presence on screen is crazy and that usually 650 00:29:51,594 --> 00:29:56,682 doesn't always translate to voice actors, so it's cool that 651 00:29:56,722 --> 00:29:58,492 she has that ability to do both. 652 00:29:58,492 --> 00:30:00,798 You know, like there there are actors who do both. 653 00:30:01,398 --> 00:30:04,275 Speaker 1: Mark hamill is a actor who's very famously both 654 00:30:04,355 --> 00:30:07,606 on screen and, you know, just vocal, but it's cool that 655 00:30:08,067 --> 00:30:11,496 there's others in star wars that do that too yeah, yeah, in the 656 00:30:11,596 --> 00:30:16,609 first three episodes you get something that you just don't 657 00:30:16,691 --> 00:30:22,676 see in star wars and you have like an imperial officer, that 658 00:30:22,997 --> 00:30:30,285 is, you know, he proceeds to try to assault bix, you know, yes 659 00:30:30,664 --> 00:30:34,176 and you don't see that in star wars ever, really, you know we 660 00:30:34,217 --> 00:30:38,089 haven't, yeah, and there's been, there's been, like certainly 661 00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:42,230 they've kind of teased the idea of it. 662 00:30:42,391 --> 00:30:46,471 You know it's been skirted but it hasn't been shown in this 663 00:30:46,531 --> 00:30:51,353 capacity and I thought it was crazy because you know I could 664 00:30:51,413 --> 00:30:57,434 very much so see the Imperials you know pretty much abusing 665 00:30:57,535 --> 00:31:01,516 their power for stuff like that and it's insane, like I was, 666 00:31:01,556 --> 00:31:02,115 like man. 667 00:31:02,115 --> 00:31:06,797 You know this show is powerful in more ways than one. 668 00:31:06,797 --> 00:31:12,278 It shows a part of Star Wars that some people you get caught 669 00:31:12,317 --> 00:31:15,598 up in the mysticism of the larger part with the Jedi and 670 00:31:15,659 --> 00:31:19,000 stuff, but you don't get the common man and this is what you 671 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:19,380 get. 672 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,701 Speaker 2: You don't get the nitty gritty as often as and for 673 00:31:23,701 --> 00:31:28,061 me when it comes to Star Wars it doesn't get any more nitty 674 00:31:28,102 --> 00:31:30,402 gritty than Andor and Rogue One. 675 00:31:30,883 --> 00:31:35,324 Speaker 1: It really this season , you know, at least in this 676 00:31:35,443 --> 00:31:38,624 first part, it really just blew my mind. 677 00:31:38,624 --> 00:31:43,445 Something else that I really got that kind of blew my mind 678 00:31:43,506 --> 00:31:50,787 was Gorman, and Gorman drew like such a heavy parallel to World 679 00:31:50,826 --> 00:31:56,429 War II Europe, like I mean you could place Gorman, it could be 680 00:31:56,489 --> 00:32:02,393 a European country and like think of the way that they dress 681 00:32:02,393 --> 00:32:05,761 and like think about the way that it was intense for them. 682 00:32:05,761 --> 00:32:09,132 You know that they're trying to build up this like rebellion. 683 00:32:09,132 --> 00:32:13,625 You know I can imagine this being europe before the war was 684 00:32:13,704 --> 00:32:16,673 in full swing, you know, before the invasion. 685 00:32:16,673 --> 00:32:20,720 This is what europe in that time period was in the 30s. 686 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,923 You know, and yeah, man it. 687 00:32:23,410 --> 00:32:26,214 It really it blew my mind how they were able to do that, 688 00:32:26,255 --> 00:32:30,540 because with Star Wars a lot of times we get the Western side or 689 00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:33,865 we get the samurai side, but we never get that side. 690 00:32:33,865 --> 00:32:38,601 I mean, you get parts of it but you don't get it as strong as 691 00:32:38,641 --> 00:32:43,477 you do in this show, like the World War II influence that Star 692 00:32:43,477 --> 00:32:47,002 Wars has, you know, and you know it's very much so. 693 00:32:47,002 --> 00:32:51,150 You know that's a huge part of Star Wars, that influence and 694 00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:52,817 you get it a lot in this show man. 695 00:32:53,530 --> 00:32:54,509 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree . 696 00:32:54,509 --> 00:32:57,779 I think you know to tag along with what you're saying. 697 00:32:57,779 --> 00:33:01,432 It's funny because we've seen so many things that are Star 698 00:33:01,452 --> 00:33:02,477 Wars related. 699 00:33:02,477 --> 00:33:06,273 We've read Star Wars, we've seen comic books and so on and 700 00:33:06,294 --> 00:33:06,634 so forth. 701 00:33:06,634 --> 00:33:15,932 There's a whole bunch of Star Wars out there, but it's amazing 702 00:33:15,932 --> 00:33:17,820 that we're continually getting new vantage points and looks at 703 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,126 the Star Wars galaxy that we probably didn't think that we 704 00:33:19,146 --> 00:33:25,020 needed or wanted, but just expanded not only the lore but 705 00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:27,385 the reality of what's at stake. 706 00:33:28,268 --> 00:33:32,523 And as that comes into the four with gorman, yeah, there's a lot 707 00:33:32,523 --> 00:33:36,356 of parallels you can make with gorman and basically it's not 708 00:33:36,376 --> 00:33:39,064 just like world war ii and all that. 709 00:33:39,064 --> 00:33:42,833 It's pretty much every oppressive government, every 710 00:33:43,053 --> 00:33:46,701 authoritarian regime trying to put another party down, and that 711 00:33:46,701 --> 00:33:48,692 that has been the case like throughout history. 712 00:33:48,692 --> 00:33:51,278 And I think that they nailed that down with how the 713 00:33:51,358 --> 00:33:55,755 propaganda is being spread, how easy it is to, you know, make 714 00:33:56,056 --> 00:33:58,559 the population dislike those people. 715 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,472 Like with Mon Mothma in the Senate building. 716 00:34:01,472 --> 00:34:04,265 She was trying to curry favor with a bunch of different people 717 00:34:04,265 --> 00:34:07,990 whom she probably agreed on with certain bills in the past, 718 00:34:08,452 --> 00:34:10,697 but there was one senator who's even like. 719 00:34:10,737 --> 00:34:15,791 I don't think Gorman is a good thing to be vying for right now 720 00:34:15,811 --> 00:34:19,320 I forget the correct wording, but basically saying like I 721 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:21,295 don't want anything to do with Gorman right now, that's a bad 722 00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:21,717 look for me. 723 00:34:21,717 --> 00:34:26,052 And you just see everyone turning a blind eye to what's 724 00:34:26,251 --> 00:34:29,500 happening and ultimately we don't know what's happening with 725 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:29,820 Gorman. 726 00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:30,302 At this point. 727 00:34:30,302 --> 00:34:31,976 We don't really fully get it. 728 00:34:31,976 --> 00:34:35,331 I mean, we as the audience get it, but the people inside the 729 00:34:35,351 --> 00:34:38,858 show, outside of a few, have no idea that they're going to be 730 00:34:38,918 --> 00:34:42,385 mining for Kalkite in the near future. 731 00:34:42,385 --> 00:34:44,838 So they have no idea what's coming for them. 732 00:34:44,969 --> 00:34:47,947 They have no idea why the Imperial Destroying the planet 733 00:34:47,967 --> 00:34:51,300 pretty much, yeah, which is what's going to happen, yeah 734 00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:55,514 yeah they have no idea why the empire have decided to make 735 00:34:55,534 --> 00:34:57,764 gorman their enemy, but it's apparent that that's what's 736 00:34:57,784 --> 00:34:58,586 happening and it is. 737 00:34:58,586 --> 00:34:59,952 It is a really scary thing. 738 00:34:59,952 --> 00:35:02,778 But I want to take like a brief moment to like just talk. 739 00:35:02,778 --> 00:35:04,141 Sorry, rich, you haven't. 740 00:35:04,141 --> 00:35:07,324 You haven't actually chimed in on on these two topics. 741 00:35:08,248 --> 00:35:12,179 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so, as I was listening to you guys talk 742 00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:15,750 about this, it just kind of made me think about a couple of 743 00:35:15,789 --> 00:35:16,070 things. 744 00:35:16,070 --> 00:35:22,041 So I don't think andor works until now and I, like I was 745 00:35:22,081 --> 00:35:25,594 thinking, like I think part of the reason we're enjoying it is 746 00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:27,099 because it's a star wars property. 747 00:35:27,099 --> 00:35:30,056 But it's not a star wars property, right, it's like star 748 00:35:30,076 --> 00:35:34,313 wars property that exists in this universe that we know very 749 00:35:34,393 --> 00:35:35,114 well, right? 750 00:35:35,114 --> 00:35:38,766 And if, let's say, you just started watching andor and you 751 00:35:38,786 --> 00:35:41,414 hadn't seen anything else for some random reason, or even if 752 00:35:41,454 --> 00:35:43,782 you, you know, you start watching andor and you just go 753 00:35:43,849 --> 00:35:49,623 through rogue one, right, you've got this universe that is, you 754 00:35:49,663 --> 00:35:51,835 know, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. 755 00:35:52,398 --> 00:35:53,682 But it doesn't. 756 00:35:53,682 --> 00:35:55,650 I don't think it would jump out at anybody. 757 00:35:55,650 --> 00:35:57,192 It's well done, right. 758 00:35:57,192 --> 00:36:05,342 But I think that why it's being so well received is because we 759 00:36:05,422 --> 00:36:09,708 feel a lot of you know, I'll just like kind of our star wars 760 00:36:09,728 --> 00:36:10,550 nerds over here. 761 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:14,719 We feel like we've explored so much of the galaxy in one 762 00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:16,411 direction that we want to see it in another. 763 00:36:16,411 --> 00:36:19,277 You know, that's a good way to put it right, because I I don't 764 00:36:19,617 --> 00:36:24,135 like this doesn't come out in 1977 and people are like, oh man 765 00:36:24,135 --> 00:36:25,036 , this is the franchise. 766 00:36:25,077 --> 00:36:25,657 Speaker 2: I'm getting into. 767 00:36:25,657 --> 00:36:29,103 That's an OK yeah, yeah, I like , I like that idea that because, 768 00:36:29,103 --> 00:36:33,175 yeah, I see what you're saying, that like what, what may have 769 00:36:33,195 --> 00:36:36,822 appealed to audiences back then is different than what appeals 770 00:36:36,882 --> 00:36:37,643 to audiences now. 771 00:36:37,989 --> 00:36:40,177 Speaker 3: So it's not necessarily playing to the times 772 00:36:40,177 --> 00:36:42,655 , but it is, in a way I don't want to say encyclopedic, 773 00:36:42,815 --> 00:36:49,012 because you don't really, but I think the type of person who's 774 00:36:49,032 --> 00:36:50,717 going to like andor is very well educated about the star wars 775 00:36:50,737 --> 00:36:53,547 universe right from my experience online, a lot of 776 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:56,355 people who had never seen star wars are watching andor and 777 00:36:56,375 --> 00:36:57,597 they're considering it. 778 00:36:57,838 --> 00:36:59,851 Speaker 2: They're considering it like some of the best tv 779 00:36:59,871 --> 00:37:00,572 they've ever seen. 780 00:37:01,172 --> 00:37:03,195 Speaker 1: Well, well, I think. 781 00:37:03,195 --> 00:37:03,856 So. 782 00:37:03,856 --> 00:37:10,085 What I think about Andor is that, yes, I agree that right 783 00:37:10,146 --> 00:37:14,592 now is the time for Andor to exist, but you couldn't have had 784 00:37:14,592 --> 00:37:20,358 Andor be the first thing to come out, because Andor is not a 785 00:37:20,358 --> 00:37:24,943 foundational series in the way that, like the mainline Star 786 00:37:24,963 --> 00:37:25,724 Wars movies are. 787 00:37:25,724 --> 00:37:26,887 That's the foundation. 788 00:37:26,887 --> 00:37:29,811 Everything else is built upon that. 789 00:37:29,811 --> 00:37:35,240 You cannot, you know and or would be telling a story about 790 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,931 something that just doesn't exist. 791 00:37:37,931 --> 00:37:41,097 Now we know exactly what happens, because what's 792 00:37:41,177 --> 00:37:43,041 happening in this show you know. 793 00:37:43,041 --> 00:37:47,824 So this is just something that is being built on the foundation 794 00:37:47,824 --> 00:37:52,775 of the greater storyline you know in star wars, the skywalker 795 00:37:52,775 --> 00:37:54,460 saga, if you will. 796 00:37:54,460 --> 00:38:00,315 But I also do agree that most people have some sort of idea 797 00:38:00,556 --> 00:38:01,960 about star wars. 798 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,512 Even if they haven't watched it , they know it exists. 799 00:38:04,512 --> 00:38:07,581 They've probably heard of luke skywalker. 800 00:38:07,581 --> 00:38:10,775 They've probably heard of lightsabers definitely heard of 801 00:38:11,016 --> 00:38:11,878 stormtroopers. 802 00:38:11,918 --> 00:38:15,474 You know like it's hard to escape, even if you don't watch 803 00:38:15,534 --> 00:38:15,574 it. 804 00:38:15,574 --> 00:38:20,489 I could imagine you watching, and or without watching, the 805 00:38:20,528 --> 00:38:24,177 mainline series and enjoying it, just in the same way that you 806 00:38:24,237 --> 00:38:28,909 can watch the mandalorian without having watched the 807 00:38:28,929 --> 00:38:29,851 mainline series. 808 00:38:29,851 --> 00:38:32,523 You know, and there's especially like mandalorian 809 00:38:32,563 --> 00:38:35,653 season two, there's stuff from other series that you. 810 00:38:35,653 --> 00:38:39,206 It wouldn't mean much to you had you not seen it, but you 811 00:38:39,246 --> 00:38:41,431 know it's definitely something that's really good. 812 00:38:41,431 --> 00:38:42,735 It's something that's different . 813 00:38:42,735 --> 00:38:44,958 I don't know what would you call it. 814 00:38:44,958 --> 00:38:52,713 Is it espionage, the spy series that exists within the star 815 00:38:52,753 --> 00:38:53,514 wars universe? 816 00:38:53,514 --> 00:38:57,822 Like you know, it's not a star wars show, it's something else 817 00:38:57,882 --> 00:39:02,891 that that exists within the star wars universe I see what you're 818 00:39:02,891 --> 00:39:02,891 . 819 00:39:03,273 --> 00:39:06,315 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to really pinpoint why it works. 820 00:39:06,315 --> 00:39:12,217 I think that you're both kind of right, in the sense that it 821 00:39:12,277 --> 00:39:16,601 does build on everything that came before, and for it to even 822 00:39:16,661 --> 00:39:21,804 exist requires these other properties to have existed for 823 00:39:21,963 --> 00:39:22,224 ages. 824 00:39:22,224 --> 00:39:26,586 You know, this is a prequel to a prequel, which in and of 825 00:39:26,646 --> 00:39:29,007 itself, is a sequel to the prequels. 826 00:39:31,936 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 3: It's a sell for my 10-year-old right. 827 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,860 He has enjoyed everything Star Wars with me. 828 00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:39,478 We have our lightsabers. 829 00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:45,039 He's definitely knowledgeable about Star Wars in the way that 830 00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,242 most kids his age aren't. 831 00:39:47,242 --> 00:39:51,722 You know, we played the lego games to their just maximum, so 832 00:39:51,762 --> 00:39:55,693 he knows the most random of characters and I don't think 833 00:39:55,813 --> 00:39:58,039 that I haven't had him watch it yet. 834 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,771 But I don't think he would enjoy and or right like I just 835 00:40:02,152 --> 00:40:05,057 yeah, it's not like it's not the star wars he's looking for. 836 00:40:05,298 --> 00:40:05,639 You know. 837 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:10,773 Yeah, I love it, I love this show, but when I look I walk 838 00:40:10,813 --> 00:40:11,896 around, work and I have. 839 00:40:11,896 --> 00:40:14,570 I used to have an over-the-shoulder bag but my 840 00:40:15,253 --> 00:40:18,601 chiropractor told me I needed to wear a backpack to balance the 841 00:40:18,641 --> 00:40:18,842 weight. 842 00:40:18,842 --> 00:40:24,983 So I have these Chewbacca like the bandolier right but with 843 00:40:25,023 --> 00:40:27,889 hair, and it's really you can use it in your car, but I use it 844 00:40:27,889 --> 00:40:28,170 as like. 845 00:40:28,170 --> 00:40:32,039 So I have these two chewbacca straps, bandolier straps, with 846 00:40:32,059 --> 00:40:34,652 the fur on my backpack at all times at work. 847 00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:38,340 You know, like I've got star wars stuff in my room. 848 00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:41,452 I teach revenge of the sith, like I'm known as the star wars 849 00:40:41,492 --> 00:40:45,297 guy, and I guess, when I think of like Star Wars in that way, 850 00:40:45,436 --> 00:40:48,380 from the outside, looking in from the person who's not a big 851 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,635 fan, you know it's just what's odd, what makes Andor great, is 852 00:40:54,695 --> 00:40:57,742 that almost it doesn't scream Star Wars in the slightest. 853 00:40:57,742 --> 00:40:58,492 You know there's. 854 00:40:58,492 --> 00:41:02,210 There's no Wookiees, there's no Jar Jar Binks, there's no Ewoks 855 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:02,210 . 856 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:06,077 You know there's very and I honestly got to the point where 857 00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:11,010 rewatching it with the Bix store when Bix was assaulted, I felt 858 00:41:11,070 --> 00:41:13,135 uncomfortable in a way that I don't want to feel when I'm 859 00:41:13,175 --> 00:41:17,103 watching Star Wars, which sounds like a child you know. 860 00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:21,836 And then as I'm rewatching the Gorman plot, because I just 861 00:41:21,856 --> 00:41:24,181 think that these episodes are so packed with stuff that if 862 00:41:24,201 --> 00:41:27,204 you're not hyper focused you're going to kind of miss something. 863 00:41:27,204 --> 00:41:37,574 So that's why I also enjoy the rewatches and to know what is 864 00:41:37,594 --> 00:41:38,836 going to unfold and see it now, see the seeds happening. 865 00:41:38,836 --> 00:41:41,402 Let's just look around for a second right and then you look 866 00:41:41,442 --> 00:41:44,614 back to the show and it's a bit startling, like anthony was 867 00:41:44,634 --> 00:41:47,918 saying, it is like so much of you guys were saying earlier, 868 00:41:47,938 --> 00:41:51,945 the authoritarian playbook and how easily it's working. 869 00:41:51,945 --> 00:41:55,655 You know how you said the senators were so quick to oh, I 870 00:41:55,675 --> 00:41:59,822 don't want to get the stink of Gorman on me too, you know, 871 00:42:00,382 --> 00:42:03,534 instead of them all banding together and how, just the 872 00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:04,579 little things you know. 873 00:42:04,579 --> 00:42:07,338 Well, you know the crime on gorman has increased to 36 874 00:42:07,398 --> 00:42:11,097 percent and just all these rumors and the spin doctor stuff 875 00:42:11,097 --> 00:42:12,380 , it honestly scared me. 876 00:42:12,601 --> 00:42:14,693 I was kind of like, oh, it's scary stuff. 877 00:42:14,693 --> 00:42:18,039 Yeah, and it's such a different feeling than I'm used to 878 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:18,922 watching star wars. 879 00:42:18,922 --> 00:42:22,757 I mean, I know like when han died I lost my mind in the movie 880 00:42:22,757 --> 00:42:23,097 theater. 881 00:42:23,097 --> 00:42:24,039 I couldn't believe it. 882 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,659 But you know, I got over it, I was okay. 883 00:42:26,659 --> 00:42:29,976 You know, I I felt a little shaky after watching these 884 00:42:30,016 --> 00:42:34,650 episodes again because it's so real, right, like, like anthony 885 00:42:34,690 --> 00:42:37,757 said, it could be vania or estonia. 886 00:42:37,757 --> 00:42:40,652 I'm just trying to think of other countries I've never been 887 00:42:40,692 --> 00:42:43,400 to or can't really point to on a map, that are nowhere in europe 888 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,735 , you know right, I mean it's different. 889 00:42:45,974 --> 00:42:48,262 Speaker 1: I was was thinking Poland or something you know. 890 00:42:48,389 --> 00:42:49,335 Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, that's a good one. 891 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:54,074 Speaker 1: You know the thing is , is that the reason why I think 892 00:42:54,074 --> 00:42:59,418 that Andor is so important for the Star Wars universe is that 893 00:43:00,099 --> 00:43:00,320 you know? 894 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,123 Yeah, I understand like you know, yeah, there is a you know 895 00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:07,047 a discomfort when you witness these things on screen. 896 00:43:07,047 --> 00:43:11,273 There is a you know a discomfort when you witness 897 00:43:11,293 --> 00:43:11,974 these things on screen. 898 00:43:11,974 --> 00:43:14,077 But you know, we've always been told that the empire is bad, 899 00:43:14,117 --> 00:43:15,019 the empire is bad. 900 00:43:15,019 --> 00:43:19,213 The empire is bad, but we're being shown how bad they are in 901 00:43:19,293 --> 00:43:22,481 this show this is why they're doing what they're doing. 902 00:43:22,842 --> 00:43:24,690 We've only ever been told that they're bad. 903 00:43:24,690 --> 00:43:26,793 You know it's always been black and white. 904 00:43:26,793 --> 00:43:28,076 But why, okay? 905 00:43:28,076 --> 00:43:28,476 What? 906 00:43:28,476 --> 00:43:29,137 Okay? 907 00:43:29,137 --> 00:43:31,079 Why is it what you know? 908 00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:32,041 Show me some color. 909 00:43:32,041 --> 00:43:39,175 Show me why and this is why the show is showing why and that 910 00:43:39,277 --> 00:43:43,684 these people are willing to put their lives on the line to do 911 00:43:43,784 --> 00:43:44,911 what they're doing. 912 00:43:44,911 --> 00:43:49,922 You don't have that whole rebellion that destroys the 913 00:43:49,961 --> 00:43:52,536 death star twice without these moments. 914 00:43:52,536 --> 00:43:54,322 There has to be a build-up. 915 00:43:54,402 --> 00:43:54,503 Speaker 2: It's. 916 00:43:54,643 --> 00:43:57,612 That's such a really that's a great point, because little 917 00:43:57,672 --> 00:44:03,182 things that have led to the original trilogy stack up like 918 00:44:03,222 --> 00:44:03,664 dominoes. 919 00:44:03,764 --> 00:44:07,226 You know, like they, like, you can't have all of this that 920 00:44:07,246 --> 00:44:10,335 happens in rogue one without all of this that happens in andor. 921 00:44:10,335 --> 00:44:14,322 You need the, you need the gorman I'm not going to say the 922 00:44:14,463 --> 00:44:16,637 m word because that's a spoiler for next week. 923 00:44:16,637 --> 00:44:20,731 We need what happens on gorman to happen because that's what 924 00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:25,460 catalyzes the rebel alliance to finally form a united front. 925 00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:30,152 You know, right now they're the rebels are a disparate, leader, 926 00:44:30,152 --> 00:44:33,701 almost leaderless group of random bands of rebels 927 00:44:34,021 --> 00:44:37,173 throughout the galaxy and and we actually see in the the first 928 00:44:37,213 --> 00:44:40,902 couple episodes of, you know, I think, episodes one and two we 929 00:44:40,943 --> 00:44:45,898 have cassian going to yavin four to meet up with a friend and he 930 00:44:45,898 --> 00:44:50,052 comes into contact with 15 rebels that don't seem to have a 931 00:44:50,052 --> 00:44:54,880 leader right, there's huge leadership, huge huge leadership 932 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,313 issues that you know everyone's fighting for leadership and 933 00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:01,161 that's the problem with these rebels at this point, there's no 934 00:45:01,161 --> 00:45:06,719 organization, and that's that needs to change if they're ever 935 00:45:06,740 --> 00:45:08,284 going to defeat the empire and cassie. 936 00:45:08,304 --> 00:45:10,514 Speaker 1: This is like cassian's like wake up, like, oh 937 00:45:10,514 --> 00:45:17,231 wow, maybe these guys need some help and yeah, yeah, that was 938 00:45:17,271 --> 00:45:20,483 crazy, like when when you you get that realization that he was 939 00:45:20,483 --> 00:45:23,952 on yavin that whole time that that was insane. 940 00:45:23,952 --> 00:45:28,601 I was like dude, what you know like we're there's about to be a 941 00:45:28,601 --> 00:45:32,295 battle there soon, uh, but a couple years. 942 00:45:32,295 --> 00:45:33,536 That was insane. 943 00:45:33,536 --> 00:45:37,463 This season brings back a character that we haven't seen 944 00:45:37,563 --> 00:45:44,759 since rogue one in orson krennic and oh yeah, dude, I mean he's 945 00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:46,501 such a good bad guy man. 946 00:45:46,802 --> 00:45:47,382 I really do. 947 00:45:47,382 --> 00:45:50,012 I'm glad that they brought him back, like I am so happy that 948 00:45:50,052 --> 00:45:53,646 they brought him back because I definitely wanted to see that 949 00:45:53,726 --> 00:45:54,610 character again. 950 00:45:54,610 --> 00:45:58,757 He just he kills that character man and I I loved his. 951 00:45:58,757 --> 00:46:03,351 I loved his, like cal kite ramble that he just goes oh yeah 952 00:46:03,351 --> 00:46:07,257 , um cal kites, cal kites. 953 00:46:07,297 --> 00:46:11,864 Alternatives like synthetic yeah like yeah, dude, that was just 954 00:46:11,945 --> 00:46:20,003 so that scene that when luthan and what's his, name again when 955 00:46:20,023 --> 00:46:22,853 they were at that party and she's trying to get rid of that 956 00:46:22,913 --> 00:46:26,701 listening device dude it was so intense what a great and then 957 00:46:26,721 --> 00:46:30,135 they had lonnie there, like it's like, oh, poor lonnie's, just 958 00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:33,463 in the middle of all this mess man, this guy's just trying to 959 00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:37,717 survive at this point I know poor lonnie, I wonder if he'll 960 00:46:37,737 --> 00:46:38,018 make it. 961 00:46:39,121 --> 00:46:42,632 Speaker 2: Yeah, ben mendelsohn returning to to replay orson 962 00:46:42,652 --> 00:46:45,900 krennic a couple years prior to the events of Rogue One. 963 00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:49,230 Fantastic stuff, him being the catalyst. 964 00:46:49,230 --> 00:46:54,036 I keep saying the word catalyst and I think it's because the 965 00:46:54,096 --> 00:46:59,313 prequel novel to Rogue One is called Catalyst, so that's just 966 00:46:59,373 --> 00:47:02,021 in the back of my head whenever I'm thinking of these characters 967 00:47:02,021 --> 00:47:02,021 . 968 00:47:02,021 --> 00:47:07,143 So anyway, he is the catalyst to why the whole Gorman front is 969 00:47:07,143 --> 00:47:07,505 happening. 970 00:47:07,505 --> 00:47:11,793 He knows that the Empire needs the calcite, the synthetic 971 00:47:11,813 --> 00:47:13,317 calcite, the calcite alternatives. 972 00:47:13,317 --> 00:47:14,099 He needs all that. 973 00:47:14,099 --> 00:47:19,458 But it can only be mined via basically destabilizing Gorman. 974 00:47:19,458 --> 00:47:24,271 And I love that scene where he brings in certain ISB members 975 00:47:24,311 --> 00:47:26,976 and other people within the Empire to just have a little 976 00:47:27,016 --> 00:47:30,893 brunch you know, have some cakes while talking about how they're 977 00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:33,021 going to potentially kill millions. 978 00:47:33,603 --> 00:47:35,811 Speaker 3: It's just a really great scene, really fascinating 979 00:47:36,094 --> 00:47:38,585 um, in that scene that's the one of the I think one of the guys 980 00:47:38,724 --> 00:47:41,391 that's to me was one of the most chilling things when they were. 981 00:47:41,391 --> 00:47:45,309 Somebody asked one of the isb guys essentially like can't we 982 00:47:45,369 --> 00:47:49,344 just tell them that you know there's like a disaster coming 983 00:47:49,445 --> 00:47:51,188 or something and get them off planet? 984 00:47:51,188 --> 00:47:57,628 And his response is something to the effect of we've seen that 985 00:47:57,628 --> 00:48:03,639 not work before and generally it's just better to do away with 986 00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:04,260 the whole thing. 987 00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:08,333 And that means that they've done it on multiple planets, 988 00:48:08,695 --> 00:48:09,436 right oh? 989 00:48:09,476 --> 00:48:10,967 Speaker 1: yeah, you know and that's. 990 00:48:11,088 --> 00:48:12,333 Speaker 3: That's what that was like. 991 00:48:12,333 --> 00:48:15,083 Oh my goodness, you've done this so much that you have 992 00:48:15,123 --> 00:48:16,590 freaking data on it right. 993 00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:19,460 Like you can't do something twice and have data on it right. 994 00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:23,271 You have to do something like five times, I'd minimum, I would 995 00:48:23,271 --> 00:48:23,612 assume. 996 00:48:23,612 --> 00:48:26,626 I don't know what the number is , but then it's just like how 997 00:48:26,666 --> 00:48:29,186 many more planets have they done this to? 998 00:48:29,788 --> 00:48:33,137 Speaker 2: oh, they've done it to a bunch and I I did do a 999 00:48:33,197 --> 00:48:36,166 little bit of research on like other planets that they've done 1000 00:48:36,206 --> 00:48:36,606 that too. 1001 00:48:36,606 --> 00:48:41,038 So in response to someone online who thought it was like a 1002 00:48:41,038 --> 00:48:44,211 dumb thing, like there's a bunch of like haters online for 1003 00:48:44,251 --> 00:48:47,411 everything, this one I I don't I want to bring attention to 1004 00:48:47,512 --> 00:48:49,505 because it was pretty astronomically stupid. 1005 00:48:49,505 --> 00:48:53,215 There was absolutely no reason to militarily occupy Gorman. 1006 00:48:53,215 --> 00:48:55,592 It was one of the dumbest things Palpatine could have done 1007 00:48:55,592 --> 00:48:55,592 . 1008 00:48:55,592 --> 00:48:58,146 The Gormans were perfectly happy with their planet and its 1009 00:48:58,206 --> 00:48:58,608 industry. 1010 00:48:58,608 --> 00:49:01,262 The Emperor could have simply mined the material needed and 1011 00:49:01,302 --> 00:49:02,306 left the Gormans alone. 1012 00:49:02,306 --> 00:49:04,909 Why would he bring this kind of negative attention? 1013 00:49:04,909 --> 00:49:05,590 For no reason. 1014 00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:08,034 Blah, blah, blah. 1015 00:49:08,034 --> 00:49:11,157 And I'm like it's perfectly clear the empire needed the 1016 00:49:11,177 --> 00:49:12,860 calcite found in gorman's core. 1017 00:49:12,860 --> 00:49:15,710 The empire makes it very clear that the mining of said resource 1018 00:49:15,710 --> 00:49:19,608 was to destabilize the core and lead to ecological collapse. 1019 00:49:19,608 --> 00:49:21,572 But poverty needed it more than he believed. 1020 00:49:21,572 --> 00:49:24,327 The empire needed good pr and I explained that it's not the 1021 00:49:24,367 --> 00:49:25,568 first time this has happened. 1022 00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:28,876 In the book a new dawn, the, the Empire mined Thorolite on Cinda 1023 00:49:28,876 --> 00:49:30,418 , causing the core to nearly collapse. 1024 00:49:30,418 --> 00:49:33,090 In Rebels we learn that Geonosis was completely 1025 00:49:33,150 --> 00:49:35,195 sterilized to cover the construction of their Death Star 1026 00:49:35,195 --> 00:49:35,556 project. 1027 00:49:35,556 --> 00:49:38,831 In Rogue One we learn that the Empire destroyed Jedha City, 1028 00:49:38,931 --> 00:49:41,338 partly to cover their extraction of kyber from beneath the city. 1029 00:49:41,338 --> 00:49:47,076 And there's also Ilum, which is where the Padawans used to get 1030 00:49:47,096 --> 00:49:47,918 their kyber crystals. 1031 00:49:47,918 --> 00:49:50,088 Also ilum, which was where the that's where the padawans used 1032 00:49:50,108 --> 00:49:50,688 to get their kyber crystals. 1033 00:49:50,688 --> 00:49:52,472 They used that planet, they mined it out and basically a big 1034 00:49:52,472 --> 00:49:57,489 fissure erupted on the planet's surface, causing the planet to 1035 00:49:57,530 --> 00:50:00,617 start splitting in half and they had to, like, hold it in place. 1036 00:50:00,617 --> 00:50:04,449 And that planet, ilum, later became star killer base in the 1037 00:50:04,489 --> 00:50:04,851 sequels. 1038 00:50:05,632 --> 00:50:10,900 Um, so it's something that the Empire is well known for doing. 1039 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:16,295 So the idea that like and they kind of do explain why one of 1040 00:50:16,315 --> 00:50:19,969 the ISB guys basically says Partagas, partagas. 1041 00:50:19,969 --> 00:50:24,518 He says they have a strong Senate presence. 1042 00:50:24,518 --> 00:50:28,195 You know, like this is a strong planet, they're not going to go 1043 00:50:28,195 --> 00:50:28,985 down lightly. 1044 00:50:28,985 --> 00:50:33,213 So they need to create this false image of gorman to the 1045 00:50:33,253 --> 00:50:37,606 rest of the galaxy to make it okay for them to do what need, 1046 00:50:37,768 --> 00:50:39,170 what they believe needs to be done. 1047 00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:43,268 And it's it's just crazy, it's just it's so sick and twisted, 1048 00:50:43,367 --> 00:50:46,173 but you could totally picture the empire doing that, because 1049 00:50:46,894 --> 00:50:50,226 they need what they got, you know, and there ain't no more 1050 00:50:50,266 --> 00:50:51,851 Kalkite alternatives elsewhere. 1051 00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:54,697 Speaker 1: Nope, something else. 1052 00:50:54,697 --> 00:50:59,853 So two characters that we also get back from the first season 1053 00:51:00,255 --> 00:51:07,692 is Cyril and Deidre, and in this one they're kind of like you 1054 00:51:07,731 --> 00:51:10,657 know, there's some romance there , you know. 1055 00:51:10,657 --> 00:51:12,867 So what? 1056 00:51:12,867 --> 00:51:15,034 What did you all think about that dynamic it? 1057 00:51:15,454 --> 00:51:19,226 Speaker 2: it was definitely kind of awkward yeah, they have 1058 00:51:19,246 --> 00:51:20,552 a very healthy relationship. 1059 00:51:20,552 --> 00:51:21,034 It seemed. 1060 00:51:21,034 --> 00:51:23,985 You know they both respected each other's boundaries very 1061 00:51:24,045 --> 00:51:24,447 clearly. 1062 00:51:24,447 --> 00:51:25,670 Yeah, no, it was very good. 1063 00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:27,916 I'm happy for cyril, very happy for deidre. 1064 00:51:27,916 --> 00:51:30,909 They both look and feel very happy in their new roles. 1065 00:51:30,909 --> 00:51:34,177 No, it's the weirdest relationship I've seen in star 1066 00:51:34,197 --> 00:51:34,706 wars period. 1067 00:51:34,706 --> 00:51:39,755 This is weirder than when those frog people, like that frog 1068 00:51:39,795 --> 00:51:42,646 lady with all her eggs, like met up with her husband and just 1069 00:51:42,686 --> 00:51:45,268 like touched heads at the end of that mandorian episode. 1070 00:51:45,268 --> 00:51:51,295 This was bizarre and it's so clear that Daedra is not a 1071 00:51:51,335 --> 00:51:54,119 psychopath but a Sociopath. 1072 00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,530 Sociopath, yes, she's sociopathic. 1073 00:51:56,530 --> 00:51:58,994 She has no emotions, she has no feeling. 1074 00:51:58,994 --> 00:52:06,106 Everything she does is to get ahead, to move up a ladder, and 1075 00:52:06,186 --> 00:52:09,295 Cyril just happens to be present and isn't moving out of her way 1076 00:52:09,295 --> 00:52:10,987 and is willing to help her out right. 1077 00:52:11,027 --> 00:52:13,795 Speaker 1: So she's, she's cool with it and she's even like 1078 00:52:13,894 --> 00:52:17,612 holding a secret, like from him, and he's helping them out. 1079 00:52:17,713 --> 00:52:20,983 Speaker 2: Like you know, locate these rebels on gorman I 1080 00:52:21,083 --> 00:52:24,891 actually really do feel bad for cyril I do too like, honestly, 1081 00:52:24,911 --> 00:52:29,117 he, he's someone who clearly needs a lot of structure in his 1082 00:52:29,177 --> 00:52:31,588 life and he's gone about it the entire wrong way. 1083 00:52:31,588 --> 00:52:36,978 And he wasn't wrong in that, you know, in the first season he 1084 00:52:36,978 --> 00:52:40,831 wasn't wrong for wanting to do his job correctly, to go 1085 00:52:41,132 --> 00:52:42,936 apprehend and or and all that. 1086 00:52:42,936 --> 00:52:46,789 He just was barking up the wrong tree with the wrong people 1087 00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:46,789 . 1088 00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:51,115 And then he got involved with the Empire and the Empire feeds 1089 00:52:51,135 --> 00:52:52,358 you all these lies about. 1090 00:52:52,358 --> 00:52:57,231 You know this and that, and it's so easy, you know, as it's 1091 00:52:57,271 --> 00:52:57,753 explained. 1092 00:52:57,753 --> 00:53:00,909 You know, just by watching the hollow news, like it's so easy 1093 00:53:00,969 --> 00:53:04,317 for you to be brainwashed by all the propaganda. 1094 00:53:04,445 --> 00:53:08,079 And Cyril is conscious that there is propaganda being 1095 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,568 perpetrated about Gorman in this season. 1096 00:53:10,568 --> 00:53:15,563 He knows that what's being presented on the news isn't 1097 00:53:15,682 --> 00:53:18,128 what's actually happening on the planet. 1098 00:53:18,128 --> 00:53:23,358 You know, and it's such a fascinating concept because he's 1099 00:53:23,358 --> 00:53:26,594 undercover for these people, which does make him complicit. 1100 00:53:26,594 --> 00:53:30,188 He knows that the Empire is doing something and they're 1101 00:53:30,208 --> 00:53:33,585 trying to incite a rebellion on this planet for some reason, but 1102 00:53:33,585 --> 00:53:36,791 he doesn't know why or how it's going to play out. 1103 00:53:36,791 --> 00:53:40,427 You know, and I feel bad for him because he thinks he's doing 1104 00:53:40,427 --> 00:53:41,974 the right thing for the right cause. 1105 00:53:41,974 --> 00:53:46,108 He still truly believes that the Empire is what's good in the 1106 00:53:46,108 --> 00:53:48,293 galaxy and that the rebels are terrorists. 1107 00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:51,432 And with that mindset it's hard not to fault the guy. 1108 00:53:51,974 --> 00:53:54,483 Speaker 1: But right, right he is an antagonist. 1109 00:53:54,603 --> 00:53:56,590 Speaker 2: You know like it's hard to it's. 1110 00:53:56,590 --> 00:53:58,699 It's hard to make that balance, so I I feel bad for the guy. 1111 00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:00,045 Speaker 1: He's an antagonist. 1112 00:54:00,045 --> 00:54:04,291 He is an antagonist but he's also a bit of a patsy. 1113 00:54:04,291 --> 00:54:09,518 You know like he is definitely the type of guy that would be 1114 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:11,101 set up to be a fall guy. 1115 00:54:11,101 --> 00:54:16,358 You know that the empire would leave him out to dry and what 1116 00:54:16,398 --> 00:54:17,461 we'll find out. 1117 00:54:17,822 --> 00:54:19,686 Speaker 2: You know I don't want to get ahead of myself, but 1118 00:54:19,807 --> 00:54:23,637 it's so easy in the empire for there to be fall guys. 1119 00:54:23,637 --> 00:54:27,393 You think of, like all of these big players, like we saw in 1120 00:54:27,432 --> 00:54:30,409 rogue one, that orson krennic, the guy who basically designed 1121 00:54:30,429 --> 00:54:31,715 the entirety of the death star. 1122 00:54:31,715 --> 00:54:35,067 He ran the project, he was the fall guy for tarkin. 1123 00:54:35,407 --> 00:54:38,438 Speaker 1: Tarkin stepped in, yeah, and there is a hierarchy 1124 00:54:38,619 --> 00:54:42,367 in the empire but there's no loyalty yeah, there's a lot of 1125 00:54:42,447 --> 00:54:46,574 like stepping on backs in the empire, a lot, a lot of stepping 1126 00:54:46,574 --> 00:54:48,396 on backs in the empire, a lot of stepping on, backs, 1127 00:54:48,677 --> 00:54:49,378 backsteppers. 1128 00:54:50,318 --> 00:54:51,059 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot. 1129 00:54:51,059 --> 00:54:55,532 There's a lot that this season, even these first six episodes, 1130 00:54:55,893 --> 00:55:00,208 you can like read into, and what's amazing is the timeliness 1131 00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:02,775 about, like, some of the the stuff in the first couple 1132 00:55:03,036 --> 00:55:03,456 episodes. 1133 00:55:03,456 --> 00:55:07,170 You know like we have within america right now a big issue of 1134 00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:11,235 like being for or against illegal immigration, people 1135 00:55:11,275 --> 00:55:13,978 being deported back to their countries or detained whatever. 1136 00:55:13,978 --> 00:55:15,380 Say what you will about that. 1137 00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:20,396 This show was filmed several years before any of that was 1138 00:55:20,715 --> 00:55:21,358 mainstream news. 1139 00:55:21,358 --> 00:55:24,311 You know, like we've had deportations for illegal 1140 00:55:24,351 --> 00:55:28,130 immigration for years in America , but right now it's coming to a 1141 00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:34,543 head because whatever, but within Andor, it's so 1142 00:55:34,603 --> 00:55:37,432 fascinating because these are the characters that we love, 1143 00:55:38,545 --> 00:55:41,248 these are the characters that we're rooting for and they are 1144 00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:44,472 the illegal immigrants on this planet and the empire is 1145 00:55:45,036 --> 00:55:47,148 technically the lawful government that has the right to 1146 00:55:47,148 --> 00:55:50,193 deport them because they don't have their papers and it's. 1147 00:55:50,405 --> 00:55:56,132 It's such a timely contrast to the our real world discussion, 1148 00:55:56,313 --> 00:55:59,027 you know, and like the political , political landscape, because 1149 00:55:59,708 --> 00:56:01,855 they didn't know that this was going to be an issue when when 1150 00:56:01,894 --> 00:56:05,121 the show was coming out, but it kind of just fits perfectly in 1151 00:56:05,141 --> 00:56:09,536 the narrative and I think that's part of why this show is so 1152 00:56:09,596 --> 00:56:10,016 timeless. 1153 00:56:10,016 --> 00:56:15,969 You know you guys were saying that it needed to be released at 1154 00:56:15,969 --> 00:56:19,213 this point in history, at least in terms of Star Wars, for it 1155 00:56:19,233 --> 00:56:23,777 to like really resonate itself. 1156 00:56:23,777 --> 00:56:28,141 Even if it didn't like focus on andor and wasn't a prequel to 1157 00:56:28,201 --> 00:56:30,467 rogue one directly and all that it would. 1158 00:56:30,467 --> 00:56:35,318 Using these themes, it's kind of timeless, you know, like it's 1159 00:56:35,318 --> 00:56:38,751 always going to be relevant to some, some degree and I I think 1160 00:56:38,771 --> 00:56:42,085 that that's what's really cool about it yeah, it's definitely a 1161 00:56:42,085 --> 00:56:42,945 great show. 1162 00:56:43,606 --> 00:56:47,467 Speaker 1: You know, it's sad that we lost your boy, brasso 1163 00:56:47,748 --> 00:56:48,429 Brasso. 1164 00:56:48,429 --> 00:56:49,750 I love Brasso dude. 1165 00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:52,411 Yeah, man, he was definitely that homie. 1166 00:56:52,751 --> 00:56:54,211 Speaker 2: He was the homiest of all homies. 1167 00:56:54,311 --> 00:56:56,713 Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy that you could rely on. 1168 00:56:56,713 --> 00:56:58,875 He watched out. 1169 00:56:58,875 --> 00:57:00,755 I miss B. 1170 00:57:01,556 --> 00:57:03,197 Speaker 2: Oh man, B2Emo. 1171 00:57:03,197 --> 00:57:08,119 I love that droid so much and I feel so bad that they just 1172 00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:10,300 leave B2Emo on that planet. 1173 00:57:11,041 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1174 00:57:11,742 --> 00:57:14,023 Speaker 2: I love that droid Like it's my own pet, like it's 1175 00:57:14,043 --> 00:57:14,563 my own child. 1176 00:57:15,105 --> 00:57:15,445 Speaker 1: Right. 1177 00:57:15,545 --> 00:57:19,717 Speaker 2: Seeing them leave so unceremoniously, oh, it kills me 1178 00:57:19,717 --> 00:57:20,157 every time. 1179 00:57:20,465 --> 00:57:22,911 Speaker 1: And you feel so bad because, like you know, you do 1180 00:57:22,992 --> 00:57:27,811 like hear that depression, like he just he wants to be with 1181 00:57:27,851 --> 00:57:31,728 cassian, you know, and it's not that cassian doesn't want him 1182 00:57:31,788 --> 00:57:35,416 around, he just he knows that he's going to be doing dangerous 1183 00:57:35,416 --> 00:57:40,773 things and in a way he's kind of like the last bit of of 1184 00:57:40,893 --> 00:57:45,286 memory of his mother, you know, and if you lost marva yeah, if 1185 00:57:45,327 --> 00:57:47,231 you lost him, that that would be . 1186 00:57:48,193 --> 00:57:50,398 you know, it was definitely a good call on that front. 1187 00:57:50,398 --> 00:57:54,574 Something that we didn't really talk about was your boy Right 1188 00:57:54,715 --> 00:57:55,155 on him. 1189 00:57:55,958 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait. 1190 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,951 What were you going to say, Rich, about B? 1191 00:57:58,905 --> 00:58:01,172 Speaker 3: Well, I love B and I was so sad that he had to be 1192 00:58:01,213 --> 00:58:01,855 left behind. 1193 00:58:01,855 --> 00:58:05,291 I know this is Star Wars and it happens all the time, but man, 1194 00:58:05,431 --> 00:58:09,559 just like he had to arrive at that exact second for them to 1195 00:58:09,619 --> 00:58:10,306 get off of there. 1196 00:58:10,306 --> 00:58:14,594 You know, like talk about fortuitous, I mean, you know 1197 00:58:14,614 --> 00:58:19,050 it's, it's a big galaxy, and he, he pulls up just right at say, 1198 00:58:19,070 --> 00:58:22,657 you know, without really kind of knowing about it, which is kind 1199 00:58:22,657 --> 00:58:25,990 of all that more right, he just hears like blockade or whatever 1200 00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:28,757 from clay, and then he immediately goes there, right, 1201 00:58:28,838 --> 00:58:30,168 but well it's. 1202 00:58:30,349 --> 00:58:32,675 Speaker 2: It's interesting like it's going to be a major plot 1203 00:58:32,695 --> 00:58:35,804 thread in the the next couple episodes. 1204 00:58:35,804 --> 00:58:40,472 But you know the idea of cassian as a messenger. 1205 00:58:40,472 --> 00:58:44,626 You know he wants to send a message to bix on this planet. 1206 00:58:44,626 --> 00:58:48,036 He finds out, oh he can't send message, so he's going to go 1207 00:58:48,056 --> 00:58:48,617 there directly. 1208 00:58:48,617 --> 00:58:52,474 And he is the messenger, you know, for all of these little 1209 00:58:52,494 --> 00:58:52,934 adventures. 1210 00:58:52,934 --> 00:58:55,789 He's the one relaying all the information to all these parties 1211 00:58:55,789 --> 00:58:55,789 . 1212 00:58:55,789 --> 00:58:59,737 That eventually culminates in a new hope and it's so. 1213 00:58:59,737 --> 00:59:03,574 It's so good the way that they wove that idea into the show and 1214 00:59:03,574 --> 00:59:07,250 we're going to talk more about specifically him as a messenger 1215 00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:10,737 next week because I think that that is a really fascinating 1216 00:59:10,777 --> 00:59:11,119 discussion. 1217 00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:16,476 But yeah, going back to B2Emo, I feel so bad for that guy. 1218 00:59:16,684 --> 00:59:24,085 Speaker 3: He just B's two emos and that's he's just so sad, and 1219 00:59:24,085 --> 00:59:26,632 you know you guys were talking about Saw. 1220 00:59:26,632 --> 00:59:27,155 You know this guy. 1221 00:59:27,155 --> 00:59:29,393 I mean, can I ask a question? 1222 00:59:29,393 --> 00:59:36,838 So do we believe that the mechanic in training was working 1223 00:59:36,838 --> 00:59:37,579 with the Empire? 1224 00:59:37,579 --> 00:59:42,775 Is that a real, or did he just make that up and then his friend 1225 00:59:42,775 --> 00:59:43,275 agreed? 1226 00:59:43,896 --> 00:59:44,778 Speaker 2: What's his friend's name? 1227 00:59:44,778 --> 00:59:46,833 I think it's Two Tubes or something like that. 1228 00:59:46,833 --> 00:59:49,141 I think that's actually like his name in the character 1229 00:59:49,161 --> 00:59:49,585 encyclopedia. 1230 00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,893 I don't think that this guy was . 1231 00:59:52,893 --> 00:59:54,838 It came out of nowhere. 1232 00:59:54,838 --> 00:59:59,192 And I don't think Saul would have humored this guy making 1233 00:59:59,231 --> 01:00:03,699 Rhydonium for as long as he did if he was going to kill him 1234 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,159 anyway. 1235 01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:06,713 And I don't think that he planned on killing him. 1236 01:00:06,713 --> 01:00:11,467 I just think that he saw that there was a need for ridonium 1237 01:00:12,389 --> 01:00:17,958 and that wilmon couldn't leave, because clearly wilmon didn't 1238 01:00:18,059 --> 01:00:21,114 think like there was some apprehension when wilmon said he 1239 01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:24,126 thinks he's ready for, you know , this production yeah, 1240 01:00:24,146 --> 01:00:27,614 essentially he's like, he's good enough, you know like there, 1241 01:00:27,693 --> 01:00:32,250 but with, with, with ridonium, there's, there's there's no 1242 01:00:32,490 --> 01:00:33,192 margin of error. 1243 01:00:33,311 --> 01:00:36,025 There's no margin of error, yeah you're gonna blow up the whole 1244 01:00:36,045 --> 01:00:36,365 party. 1245 01:00:36,365 --> 01:00:39,492 So yeah, it's really I. 1246 01:00:39,672 --> 01:00:42,498 Speaker 1: I don't personally think that he was a empire spy 1247 01:00:43,106 --> 01:00:47,735 right, like maybe he just needed a reason to kind of kill him in 1248 01:00:47,735 --> 01:00:48,436 that moment. 1249 01:00:48,436 --> 01:00:51,280 But yeah, no, I I agree. 1250 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,753 I think that, like he realized, okay, this guy's not, he's 1251 01:00:55,014 --> 01:00:57,969 obviously can't, he can't do the job, and it's like we kind of 1252 01:00:57,989 --> 01:01:01,443 put ourselves in a hard spot because we can't let this guy 1253 01:01:01,503 --> 01:01:04,869 leave, because he knows too much and he's the best bet for this 1254 01:01:04,929 --> 01:01:05,230 job. 1255 01:01:05,230 --> 01:01:07,432 So I guess he's going to be coming anyway. 1256 01:01:07,432 --> 01:01:11,880 I find that process of extracting Rhydonium so 1257 01:01:11,980 --> 01:01:13,666 fascinating Like that. 1258 01:01:13,666 --> 01:01:18,813 Just it's a eight step process, dude, and it looks so cool, 1259 01:01:19,144 --> 01:01:22,735 like you know, just like kind of like you know the rotating of 1260 01:01:22,795 --> 01:01:27,447 like the machine, and to me it just it looked awesome, like it 1261 01:01:27,728 --> 01:01:31,666 looked so complicated and it was a really cool like scene to 1262 01:01:31,706 --> 01:01:31,987 have. 1263 01:01:31,987 --> 01:01:37,702 And man, your boy I know your boy is just cracked out for 1264 01:01:37,742 --> 01:01:38,344 ridonium. 1265 01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:42,313 Speaker 2: No wonder why he's insane, saw so in uh rogue one, 1266 01:01:42,572 --> 01:01:45,545 we all thought that he was like huffing off oxygen, you know 1267 01:01:45,565 --> 01:01:45,786 like. 1268 01:01:45,786 --> 01:01:48,590 We thought that he was just like ill and he needed the, you 1269 01:01:48,610 --> 01:01:49,291 know the inhaler. 1270 01:01:49,291 --> 01:01:52,637 Turns out he's just been huffing rhodonium good boy. 1271 01:01:52,876 --> 01:01:54,985 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a drug to this man. 1272 01:01:54,985 --> 01:01:56,288 He's just how does. 1273 01:01:56,288 --> 01:01:59,434 Oh, it's a drug cracked out on him, man how is he now? 1274 01:02:00,215 --> 01:02:01,998 Speaker 3: how is he so like I? 1275 01:02:01,998 --> 01:02:08,215 How does he weather it, I mean, and then like, will I, don't 1276 01:02:08,295 --> 01:02:08,456 under. 1277 01:02:08,456 --> 01:02:12,469 Did he just like get peer pressured, like it sounds like? 1278 01:02:12,469 --> 01:02:15,556 It's the worst thing in the world you would ever do to 1279 01:02:15,597 --> 01:02:20,402 yourself and like it's not like hey take a hit of this joint 1280 01:02:20,483 --> 01:02:20,704 Right. 1281 01:02:20,704 --> 01:02:22,873 It's like I don't know. 1282 01:02:22,873 --> 01:02:24,672 Hey, here's some ether. 1283 01:02:24,672 --> 01:02:25,807 I don't. 1284 01:02:25,807 --> 01:02:28,195 It seems insane, right. 1285 01:02:29,065 --> 01:02:30,713 Speaker 2: It's a very extreme high. 1286 01:02:30,713 --> 01:02:31,579 Yeah, give's some ether, it seems insane. 1287 01:02:31,579 --> 01:02:32,282 Right, it's a very extreme high . 1288 01:02:32,282 --> 01:02:32,724 Give me some spice. 1289 01:02:32,724 --> 01:02:33,347 He just tells. 1290 01:02:33,367 --> 01:02:35,253 Speaker 1: Wilmon like just accept it. 1291 01:02:35,253 --> 01:02:38,612 Wilmon just looks like he's in excruciating pain. 1292 01:02:38,612 --> 01:02:38,931 Dude. 1293 01:02:39,474 --> 01:02:41,057 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. 1294 01:02:41,057 --> 01:02:43,452 And Wilmon's so surprised. 1295 01:02:43,452 --> 01:02:48,210 After he starts releasing the Rhydonium, saw just kind of goes 1296 01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:50,711 up to him like oh, how I've missed you. 1297 01:02:50,711 --> 01:02:55,793 And Wilma's like what on earth, how are you doing this? 1298 01:02:55,793 --> 01:03:00,349 Because Saw just went on this tangent about how your skin 1299 01:03:00,409 --> 01:03:03,713 starts to itch and you start feeling your skin crawl like 1300 01:03:03,773 --> 01:03:04,375 it's alive. 1301 01:03:04,375 --> 01:03:08,614 And as a kid he like hooked on this stuff. 1302 01:03:08,614 --> 01:03:11,268 You're asking how he weathered it. 1303 01:03:11,268 --> 01:03:13,512 I think it's just tolerance. 1304 01:03:13,512 --> 01:03:18,253 You know, like you give you, give a kid a taste of bourbon, 1305 01:03:18,614 --> 01:03:20,282 they're gonna hate it, they're gonna spit it out. 1306 01:03:20,282 --> 01:03:21,324 It tastes gross to them. 1307 01:03:21,324 --> 01:03:24,306 There's no way that they're gonna enjoy that because it just 1308 01:03:24,306 --> 01:03:27,909 tastes like spicy and bitter and all of that. 1309 01:03:27,909 --> 01:03:32,112 But as an adult you grow tolerances to certain things. 1310 01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:34,373 Now bourbon tastes fantastic to me. 1311 01:03:34,373 --> 01:03:36,255 It feels really good going down , burning. 1312 01:03:36,255 --> 01:03:39,617 The burning sensation is part of the fun of it and I think 1313 01:03:39,677 --> 01:03:43,239 that is what we're experiencing with the Rido. 1314 01:03:43,860 --> 01:03:49,706 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know it's like at this point, are you 1315 01:03:49,706 --> 01:03:50,769 going to use this for sarsaparilla? 1316 01:03:51,130 --> 01:03:52,476 Speaker 2: fuel fuel, or are you gonna like just huff it all? 1317 01:03:52,476 --> 01:03:53,780 Yeah, I don't got an answer for you. 1318 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,846 Speaker 1: I, everybody else will use it for starship fuel, 1319 01:03:56,206 --> 01:04:02,677 but saul's just gonna use it for his own weird reasons yeah, no, 1320 01:04:02,677 --> 01:04:03,818 it's, it's bad. 1321 01:04:03,838 --> 01:04:06,893 Speaker 2: I want to look this up actually, right don't? 1322 01:04:06,893 --> 01:04:07,536 I know? 1323 01:04:07,536 --> 01:04:10,449 I've heard that like so many times before, like in random 1324 01:04:11,132 --> 01:04:13,320 things I mean, like this guy could just be using regular 1325 01:04:13,380 --> 01:04:13,742 spice. 1326 01:04:13,842 --> 01:04:15,827 Speaker 1: You know whatever would happen a good old spice 1327 01:04:16,650 --> 01:04:20,237 it's probably not strong enough, man, not that it doesn't have 1328 01:04:20,297 --> 01:04:23,132 that rhododium strength, you know, because like rhododium 1329 01:04:23,172 --> 01:04:27,766 because when you say rhododium strong like, I mean it sounds 1330 01:04:27,847 --> 01:04:30,246 strong, but when you think of spice, I'm thinking of like 1331 01:04:30,306 --> 01:04:33,438 maybe pepper right, some, you know pepper salt, you know 1332 01:04:33,458 --> 01:04:36,568 oregano, whatever but you know you think of rhodonium. 1333 01:04:36,568 --> 01:04:40,536 That honestly, doesn't even rhodonium sounds like, it sounds 1334 01:04:40,536 --> 01:04:43,630 like an ore, it doesn't even sound like a liquid. 1335 01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:48,157 You know yeah, but but yeah, no , it's crazy. 1336 01:04:48,157 --> 01:04:49,097 I'm not too sure. 1337 01:04:49,097 --> 01:04:51,688 Is there anything else that you , that you guys want to talk 1338 01:04:51,708 --> 01:04:52,048 about? 1339 01:04:52,710 --> 01:04:55,996 Speaker 2: I really liked luthen and kleia in this arc. 1340 01:04:55,996 --> 01:04:59,793 I feel like we've talked a little bit about them and I 1341 01:04:59,813 --> 01:05:02,983 appreciate that their dynamic is growing. 1342 01:05:02,983 --> 01:05:05,931 We didn't really know what their dynamic was in the first 1343 01:05:05,971 --> 01:05:09,547 season and we still don't know at this point in the show, like, 1344 01:05:09,547 --> 01:05:11,795 what their dynamic is. 1345 01:05:11,795 --> 01:05:12,938 Are they related? 1346 01:05:12,938 --> 01:05:13,981 Are they friends? 1347 01:05:13,981 --> 01:05:16,146 Are they just partners for a long time? 1348 01:05:16,146 --> 01:05:20,496 Could be in any number of things, but I think it's really 1349 01:05:20,516 --> 01:05:25,469 cool that they have such a professional relationship, even 1350 01:05:26,092 --> 01:05:26,853 on their downtime. 1351 01:05:26,853 --> 01:05:28,697 You know, like there is technically, there is no 1352 01:05:28,804 --> 01:05:29,568 downtime for them. 1353 01:05:29,608 --> 01:05:34,202 They're on 24 7, because that's what it takes to run a rebellion 1354 01:05:34,202 --> 01:05:38,210 and they're running it from the center of civilization. 1355 01:05:38,371 --> 01:05:42,025 They're in the hornet's nest while they're doing what they're 1356 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:47,693 doing and it's it's so cool the way the show uses them as 1357 01:05:48,936 --> 01:05:49,396 accesses. 1358 01:05:49,597 --> 01:05:50,597 They're literally an axis. 1359 01:05:50,597 --> 01:05:55,992 It's such a like fascinating word because you think of an 1360 01:05:56,152 --> 01:06:00,844 axis, it's what the rest of, it's what turns in the center of 1361 01:06:00,844 --> 01:06:01,186 things. 1362 01:06:01,186 --> 01:06:03,829 It's what turns in the center is the one who's running all the 1363 01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:16,594 shots and they're partially right, he's one cog of the 1364 01:06:16,634 --> 01:06:21,333 greater rebellion, but he is like a mastermind of what's 1365 01:06:21,393 --> 01:06:25,768 going on in the galaxy rebel-wise, and you think of 1366 01:06:25,889 --> 01:06:28,755 another term that's used in machinery that's been applied to 1367 01:06:28,755 --> 01:06:30,438 characters like fulcrum. 1368 01:06:30,438 --> 01:06:34,987 Fulcrum was given to characters like Ahsoka, later it will be 1369 01:06:35,007 --> 01:06:37,873 given to Cassian, and it makes sense that there's multiple 1370 01:06:37,932 --> 01:06:42,510 fulcrums but there's only one true axis, so a fulcrum is a 1371 01:06:42,570 --> 01:06:48,829 pivot point on the spinning mechanism of the axis and these 1372 01:06:48,869 --> 01:06:52,887 characters Ahs, ahsoka, cassian and others are fulcrums, 1373 01:06:52,947 --> 01:06:57,416 basically like they're pivots in this moving cog and it's. 1374 01:06:57,416 --> 01:07:00,887 It's so cool the way that this is all being explored 1375 01:07:01,728 --> 01:07:05,630 subtextually but also like in real time on the show and I 1376 01:07:05,650 --> 01:07:07,472 think that it's just brilliant writing. 1377 01:07:07,472 --> 01:07:08,172 It's so cool. 1378 01:07:08,733 --> 01:07:09,173 Speaker 1: I agree. 1379 01:07:09,173 --> 01:07:15,239 Oh yeah, and we also lose Senta , which she was kind of not 1380 01:07:15,699 --> 01:07:20,807 around too much, Right, she was kind of here and there, but she 1381 01:07:20,847 --> 01:07:23,836 ends up getting killed during that heist. 1382 01:07:24,626 --> 01:07:25,751 Speaker 2: That heist on Gorman. 1383 01:07:25,945 --> 01:07:26,688 Speaker 1: Yes on. 1384 01:07:26,688 --> 01:07:27,411 Gorman. 1385 01:07:27,925 --> 01:07:28,927 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt bad. 1386 01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:34,028 Val clearly was in love with this person and the moment she 1387 01:07:34,088 --> 01:07:39,818 gets since a back since is like literally killed by mistake by 1388 01:07:39,898 --> 01:07:43,771 some kid who, you know, thought he could do his own thing on the 1389 01:07:43,771 --> 01:07:46,865 like as part of the rebellion, and that's why leadership is so 1390 01:07:46,945 --> 01:07:47,527 necessary. 1391 01:07:47,606 --> 01:07:51,313 You know and talking about gorman really quickly the 1392 01:07:51,353 --> 01:07:55,099 culture of this world was so fantastically realized. 1393 01:07:55,099 --> 01:08:01,114 I am amazed every time it's on screen because it feels legit, 1394 01:08:01,215 --> 01:08:02,985 it feels like a real world and it what? 1395 01:08:02,985 --> 01:08:05,692 What helps it is that all the actors are French. 1396 01:08:05,692 --> 01:08:10,007 They're not speaking French, but they're speaking an alien 1397 01:08:10,027 --> 01:08:12,994 language based off of French linguistics, which is why it 1398 01:08:13,054 --> 01:08:16,511 sounds like French, but you can't actually pick up any of 1399 01:08:16,532 --> 01:08:17,014 the words. 1400 01:08:17,014 --> 01:08:18,719 It's so well done. 1401 01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:23,731 It's the cultural world building of Gorman, making it 1402 01:08:23,792 --> 01:08:26,965 centered around these spiders who create weaves and silk that 1403 01:08:27,206 --> 01:08:30,467 the galaxy needs, and then bringing in Cassian to kind of 1404 01:08:30,488 --> 01:08:33,951 play onto that, because you know , this whole world's ecosystem 1405 01:08:34,112 --> 01:08:39,235 runs on these spiders, basically , and he's playing a designer so 1406 01:08:39,235 --> 01:08:44,400 that he can blend into this world's ecosystem and it's dude. 1407 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,344 The writing on this show is next level and it just blows me 1408 01:08:48,384 --> 01:08:48,583 away. 1409 01:08:49,085 --> 01:08:51,708 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and also something that I kind of wanted 1410 01:08:51,769 --> 01:08:56,618 to just kind of cap this conversation on is PTSD. 1411 01:08:56,618 --> 01:09:04,574 And Bix has that big time with what happened to her in season 1412 01:09:04,956 --> 01:09:06,377 one With Dr Gorse. 1413 01:09:06,417 --> 01:09:10,461 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and actually these episodes cap that 1414 01:09:10,461 --> 01:09:12,788 like plot line off really, really neatly. 1415 01:09:12,788 --> 01:09:16,256 We learn a couple episode, or like an episode prior to this, 1416 01:09:16,396 --> 01:09:21,094 that dr gorse the guy who invented the torture device or 1417 01:09:21,113 --> 01:09:24,948 the torture method that we saw used on bix in the first season. 1418 01:09:24,948 --> 01:09:29,003 They want to embiggen this project, they want to get more 1419 01:09:29,064 --> 01:09:32,212 people involved, they want to make a whole team involved in 1420 01:09:32,252 --> 01:09:33,475 this interrogation process. 1421 01:09:33,475 --> 01:09:38,110 So they give Dr Gorse this brand new wing within the 1422 01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:44,108 Imperial Complex on Coruscant and I just love that Bix, who is 1423 01:09:44,108 --> 01:09:48,936 so distraught about this, gets the opportunity to get her 1424 01:09:49,136 --> 01:09:50,118 comeuppance with this guy. 1425 01:09:50,864 --> 01:09:53,713 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Cassian just straight blows him 1426 01:09:53,895 --> 01:09:53,954 up. 1427 01:09:54,604 --> 01:09:54,805 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1428 01:09:54,805 --> 01:09:57,752 What did you think of the PTSD Rich? 1429 01:09:57,752 --> 01:10:00,097 What did you feel about this plotline with Vix? 1430 01:10:00,706 --> 01:10:04,274 Speaker 3: Well, I think the first time I understand that to 1431 01:10:04,474 --> 01:10:06,698 properly short you need to do it over a little bit more time. 1432 01:10:06,698 --> 01:10:11,529 But I I was just I was unsure where it was really going. 1433 01:10:11,529 --> 01:10:16,377 But then the visit from luthan, I think when I saw it the 1434 01:10:16,398 --> 01:10:18,347 second time around, made it way more interesting. 1435 01:10:18,347 --> 01:10:20,412 And doors questioning of. 1436 01:10:20,412 --> 01:10:25,431 Well, if luthan did that and he didn't tell me that and he came 1437 01:10:25,431 --> 01:10:27,759 home he knew you would tell me. 1438 01:10:27,759 --> 01:10:30,688 So he had to know that he's always doing something for like, 1439 01:10:30,688 --> 01:10:35,516 and you could just really see andor's paranoia. 1440 01:10:35,516 --> 01:10:37,587 But I don't want to call it paranoia because he's right. 1441 01:10:38,291 --> 01:10:41,921 Speaker 2: I mean he's yeah no, he's pardon, he is being 1442 01:10:41,962 --> 01:10:43,445 paranoid, but he's also right. 1443 01:10:43,445 --> 01:10:46,150 You know, you don't just get visits from luthan. 1444 01:10:46,853 --> 01:10:50,164 Speaker 3: There's a reason so I thought that again, like it's 1445 01:10:50,185 --> 01:10:53,430 just, I appreciate it way more the second time. 1446 01:10:53,430 --> 01:11:00,010 I think I wanted to just kind of get to some big resolutions a 1447 01:11:00,010 --> 01:11:02,555 little earlier than I, than I should have the first watch 1448 01:11:02,576 --> 01:11:03,077 through, right. 1449 01:11:03,077 --> 01:11:06,891 So when I now know where everything was, watching it 1450 01:11:06,953 --> 01:11:09,176 again, it really is paced well. 1451 01:11:09,176 --> 01:11:13,395 I think the way they did it was excellent and without spoiling 1452 01:11:13,416 --> 01:11:18,087 too much for next week, right Like this PTSD arc is really 1453 01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:18,548 important. 1454 01:11:19,090 --> 01:11:19,912 Speaker 2: Totally yeah. 1455 01:11:19,912 --> 01:11:24,345 So one last thing I do want to mention, because I do think that 1456 01:11:24,345 --> 01:11:28,635 , you know, nothing is truly perfect, and if I could give it 1457 01:11:28,774 --> 01:11:33,850 a criticism, I would say that the jumps in years for every 1458 01:11:33,871 --> 01:11:37,417 three episodes is a little jarring and there's a lot that 1459 01:11:37,618 --> 01:11:41,052 goes unsaid between episodes that you just kind of have to 1460 01:11:41,092 --> 01:11:43,037 pick up the pieces on and try to figure out. 1461 01:11:43,037 --> 01:11:46,828 And this will come into like I think, like, think, like 1462 01:11:46,889 --> 01:11:51,354 technically, next week, the jump from 3 BBY to 2 BBY is probably 1463 01:11:51,354 --> 01:11:55,899 like the hardest jump for me in terms of like wow, I really 1464 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,301 wish there was more to this story. 1465 01:11:57,301 --> 01:12:00,234 I wish they told all of those things that they're talking 1466 01:12:00,274 --> 01:12:00,494 about. 1467 01:12:01,324 --> 01:12:02,469 Speaker 1: You know they will eventually. 1468 01:12:02,469 --> 01:12:05,572 Oh yeah, I'm excited about the books. 1469 01:12:05,965 --> 01:12:08,287 Speaker 2: They teed it up so nicely for publishing. 1470 01:12:08,287 --> 01:12:09,430 Oh yeah, I'm excited about the books. 1471 01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:10,992 They teed it up so nicely for publishing and their publishing 1472 01:12:11,051 --> 01:12:12,894 is literally just finishing up the High Republic. 1473 01:12:12,894 --> 01:12:15,818 It's five years, I think, at this point, and they're going to 1474 01:12:15,818 --> 01:12:17,859 need new territory and I think they're going right into Andor 1475 01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:22,051 hopefully soon, because this is such a ripe area, for I just 1476 01:12:22,072 --> 01:12:23,416 don't know that they can write it as well. 1477 01:12:23,416 --> 01:12:26,914 I'm genuinely like will they give us good stories in Andor? 1478 01:12:28,704 --> 01:12:29,935 Speaker 1: Or will they give us good stories in Andor, or will 1479 01:12:29,954 --> 01:12:30,176 they not? 1480 01:12:30,176 --> 01:12:30,801 I think it can be done. 1481 01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:32,487 Speaker 2: you know it can be done, but it's tough. 1482 01:12:32,567 --> 01:12:34,189 Speaker 1: You know when you're going from. 1483 01:12:34,189 --> 01:12:37,975 You know a big huff of Rhydonium to, you know Spice. 1484 01:12:39,158 --> 01:12:42,570 Speaker 2: Oof, yeah, Speaking of which do next week, boys. 1485 01:12:43,373 --> 01:12:49,235 Speaker 1: Yes, next week we shall be doing the last half of 1486 01:12:49,417 --> 01:12:54,393 Andor and you know that'll be capping off the series because 1487 01:12:54,432 --> 01:12:58,180 the series rolls right into Rogue One. 1488 01:12:58,625 --> 01:13:01,989 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do kind of wish we, like you said earlier, 1489 01:13:02,250 --> 01:13:07,257 I wish we hadn't done Rogue One and A New Hope so soon, because 1490 01:13:07,297 --> 01:13:08,479 it would have been nice to go into it. 1491 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,072 Hopefully, like in some future episodes, we can go back and 1492 01:13:12,091 --> 01:13:16,229 like revisit certain things I would like to do, like a Rogue 1493 01:13:16,389 --> 01:13:20,015 One and A New Hope rewatch after Andor. 1494 01:13:20,015 --> 01:13:23,306 I know, rich, you already did it, but I have I have yet to do 1495 01:13:23,346 --> 01:13:27,755 it yet, so I really can't wait to like see how the story 1496 01:13:27,854 --> 01:13:31,467 unfolds in a new manner and a new light after watching andor. 1497 01:13:31,467 --> 01:13:34,715 So it could be something we we, you know do at some point. 1498 01:13:34,715 --> 01:13:37,528 But, guys, thank you for listening to us here for our 1499 01:13:37,688 --> 01:13:40,994 124th episode of project geekology. 1500 01:13:41,055 --> 01:13:44,408 We hope you enjoyed our ramblings on the star wars 1501 01:13:44,448 --> 01:13:45,451 galaxy as a whole. 1502 01:13:45,451 --> 01:13:48,899 Please be sure to check out next episode where we cover the 1503 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,891 final six episodes of Andor as they lead up to the events of 1504 01:13:52,931 --> 01:13:53,354 Rogue One. 1505 01:13:53,354 --> 01:13:57,747 We're excited to finally get to what I believe is probably the 1506 01:13:57,807 --> 01:14:00,395 best couple hours of Star Wars ever produced. 1507 01:14:00,395 --> 01:14:03,014 And yeah, thanks so much for listening. 1508 01:14:03,014 --> 01:14:05,265 If you want to check us out on any of our socials, be sure to 1509 01:14:05,305 --> 01:14:06,431 click down into the show notes. 1510 01:14:06,431 --> 01:14:07,730 You'll find us there. 1511 01:14:07,730 --> 01:14:13,889 And, yeah, boys, stay juicy, like that Rhydonium that you 1512 01:14:13,930 --> 01:14:18,037 know, like that Rhydonium that Saw Gerrera is huffing and 1513 01:14:18,057 --> 01:14:18,378 puffing. 1514 01:14:18,378 --> 01:14:22,550 You need some of that juice in your life, and to do so, I think 1515 01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:26,277 what you'd really need to do is Anthony, you want to explain it 1516 01:14:26,277 --> 01:14:26,476 to them? 1517 01:14:26,476 --> 01:14:27,238 What do we? 1518 01:14:27,259 --> 01:14:27,378 Speaker 1: need. 1519 01:14:27,378 --> 01:14:30,987 You know we need that strong Rydonian. 1520 01:14:30,987 --> 01:14:32,871 You know five star review. 1521 01:14:32,871 --> 01:14:37,078 You know we want it to be so strong that it even knocks. 1522 01:14:37,078 --> 01:14:42,216 You know, saw Guerrera back a few pegs and you know, just keep 1523 01:14:42,216 --> 01:14:46,029 them coming for more yeah, yeah , speaking about pegs, we never 1524 01:14:46,131 --> 01:14:47,854 like figure out how he lost his leg. 1525 01:14:48,414 --> 01:14:50,279 Speaker 2: Anyway, guys, yeah, this is. 1526 01:14:50,279 --> 01:14:51,768 This is episode 124. 1527 01:14:51,768 --> 01:14:56,337 We shall see you or you'll hear from us, anyway, next week bye 1528 01:14:56,356 --> 01:14:56,556 guys. 1529 01:14:56,716 --> 01:14:58,810 Speaker 1: Long live the gentle lads. 1530 01:14:58,810 --> 01:15:00,398 Love it peace.