1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,431 Speaker 1: Fresh off the heels of last week's Superman movie, 2 00:00:03,773 --> 00:00:05,820 we take you back, ladies and gentlemen. 3 00:00:05,820 --> 00:00:10,788 Yes, yes, we can run as far as to Superman, spin this earth 4 00:00:10,888 --> 00:00:14,375 backwards and bring us back to 1978. 5 00:00:14,375 --> 00:00:18,228 This week's episode of Project Geekology, we will be covering 6 00:00:18,669 --> 00:00:21,353 Superman, the movie from 1978. 7 00:00:21,353 --> 00:00:26,512 I can't do it alone, of course, and I'm joined, as always, with 8 00:00:26,512 --> 00:00:31,443 Dakota, and the lovely introduction was presented by 9 00:00:31,564 --> 00:00:31,844 Rich. 10 00:00:33,106 --> 00:00:36,694 Speaker 2: I don't believe that he, you know, told us who he was 11 00:00:36,694 --> 00:00:36,694 . 12 00:00:36,694 --> 00:00:40,006 But, rich, good to have you on the podcast, as always, and I'm 13 00:00:40,046 --> 00:00:42,453 always pleased to be joined with . 14 00:00:43,103 --> 00:00:45,155 Speaker 3: Anthony, and you know , rich, rich, that was actually 15 00:00:45,216 --> 00:00:48,389 pretty good, because that was something that I was thinking in 16 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:51,780 my mind too, like you know the thought of, you know, flying the 17 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:56,389 podcast back and bringing the earth all the way to 1978 to 18 00:00:56,469 --> 00:00:57,210 cover this movie. 19 00:00:57,210 --> 00:01:00,384 So see, clever so you and I, you and I were thinking that 20 00:01:00,444 --> 00:01:01,246 that same thing. 21 00:01:01,286 --> 00:01:06,358 But yes, just as rich had said, we are covering superman, the 22 00:01:06,379 --> 00:01:10,108 movie 1978, starring christopher reeves. 23 00:01:10,108 --> 00:01:15,941 And yeah, man it, it had been a a good little while since I had 24 00:01:15,941 --> 00:01:16,402 seen that. 25 00:01:16,402 --> 00:01:22,109 But before we hop into superman , the movie dakota, what have 26 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:23,891 you been up to, um? 27 00:01:24,112 --> 00:01:28,938 Speaker 2: I I know that this is a layup because, um, I happen 28 00:01:28,998 --> 00:01:31,584 to be telling a funny story prior to the podcast. 29 00:01:31,584 --> 00:01:34,030 Anthony's like, shut up, tell it on the podcast. 30 00:01:34,772 --> 00:01:38,085 So you know, as far as what I've been up to this past week, not 31 00:01:38,126 --> 00:01:38,566 a whole lot. 32 00:01:38,566 --> 00:01:41,492 Um, a new avatar book, like avatar. 33 00:01:41,492 --> 00:01:44,629 The last airbender book came out, so I'm excited to dive into 34 00:01:44,629 --> 00:01:46,001 that when I get the opportunity . 35 00:01:46,001 --> 00:01:51,531 I did write a video script, um, which hopefully I will have out 36 00:01:51,531 --> 00:01:53,783 by the time that this video or this podcast is out. 37 00:01:53,783 --> 00:01:57,790 Um, specifically about the superman timeline uh, for the 38 00:01:57,811 --> 00:02:00,040 2025 film, not for this movie. 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,343 That's pretty cool. 40 00:02:01,343 --> 00:02:05,432 I found some really cool easter eggs and hidden meaning um, in 41 00:02:05,691 --> 00:02:09,608 like that's like layered into the structure of the timeline of 42 00:02:09,608 --> 00:02:09,989 the movie. 43 00:02:09,989 --> 00:02:10,650 It's it's really. 44 00:02:10,650 --> 00:02:12,562 I think it's a really fascinating concept. 45 00:02:12,861 --> 00:02:18,012 But, um, as far as the story that anthony uh required me to 46 00:02:18,072 --> 00:02:21,724 tell on the podcast, I have to go back a previous week. 47 00:02:21,724 --> 00:02:24,310 I have to go back back to Disney World, where I was a 48 00:02:24,349 --> 00:02:24,991 couple weeks back. 49 00:02:24,991 --> 00:02:31,227 I have a or I had posted a picture online of me eating a 50 00:02:31,387 --> 00:02:34,293 foot-long hot dog, a massive glizzy. 51 00:02:34,293 --> 00:02:38,426 I have a hot dog hat, or I have a hat that says bad day to be a 52 00:02:38,426 --> 00:02:42,600 hot dog and I have, like the you know Cinderella's castle in 53 00:02:42,621 --> 00:02:43,081 the background. 54 00:02:43,081 --> 00:02:44,926 It's a gorgeous photo. 55 00:02:44,926 --> 00:02:46,912 It's you know, cinderella's castle in the background. 56 00:02:46,912 --> 00:02:47,633 It's a gorgeous photo. 57 00:02:47,633 --> 00:02:48,596 It's one of my favorites. 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,520 It's one of my best one of the highlights of my life? 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,741 Really no, but it was. 60 00:02:53,741 --> 00:02:57,223 The background of that is a little scary, because I was 61 00:02:57,324 --> 00:03:01,246 struggling to eat that hot dog, even though I knew I had to. 62 00:03:01,246 --> 00:03:02,067 I knew I had to. 63 00:03:02,067 --> 00:03:04,527 I knew at least my brother-in-law, who was with us, 64 00:03:04,527 --> 00:03:09,651 had been so excited to see me down another footlong hot dog 65 00:03:09,691 --> 00:03:13,552 from Casey's Corner, as he remembered so fondly from our 66 00:03:13,793 --> 00:03:15,493 first trip over Disney World together. 67 00:03:15,493 --> 00:03:22,016 So anyway, I in my infinite wisdom bought this hat that says 68 00:03:22,016 --> 00:03:28,581 Bad Day to be a hot dog, and I bought it specifically for 69 00:03:28,602 --> 00:03:28,923 baseball games. 70 00:03:28,923 --> 00:03:29,985 But it came in like a month later. 71 00:03:29,985 --> 00:03:33,272 So I had been to a couple games and I just, I just did not have 72 00:03:33,272 --> 00:03:34,043 the hat at hand. 73 00:03:34,043 --> 00:03:35,248 So I brought it to disney world . 74 00:03:35,248 --> 00:03:38,360 I thought it would be a fun opportunity to relive my glory 75 00:03:38,381 --> 00:03:41,385 days at casey's corner downing another footlong lizzie. 76 00:03:41,866 --> 00:03:46,360 But anyway, halfway through the day it was extremely hot in, you 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,663 know, central Florida. 78 00:03:47,663 --> 00:03:52,574 We decided to leave Magic Kingdom resort, hop over to some 79 00:03:52,574 --> 00:03:53,301 of the resorts you know. 80 00:03:53,301 --> 00:03:55,729 You go to the, you get on the monorail, you go to the 81 00:03:55,788 --> 00:03:59,105 contemporary resort, the Polynesian, the Grand Floridian, 82 00:03:59,105 --> 00:04:00,109 then back to Magic Kingdom. 83 00:04:00,109 --> 00:04:01,391 We went to the Polynesian. 84 00:04:01,391 --> 00:04:04,127 We were hoping to get you know some drinks or whatever. 85 00:04:04,127 --> 00:04:05,230 Stay out of the heat. 86 00:04:05,230 --> 00:04:09,509 We ended up getting a reservation to Ohana, which is 87 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:12,979 like one of the best restaurants in the Walt Disney World bubble 88 00:04:12,979 --> 00:04:12,979 . 89 00:04:13,561 --> 00:04:15,826 Speaker 1: I thought that was small and broken, wasn't it? 90 00:04:15,826 --> 00:04:17,211 But still good. 91 00:04:17,211 --> 00:04:18,322 Say that again, wasn't Ohana? 92 00:04:18,322 --> 00:04:19,747 Small and broken, but still good. 93 00:04:20,548 --> 00:04:22,341 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, I see what you're doing there. 94 00:04:22,341 --> 00:04:26,427 Yes, cheap, cheap Lilo and Stitch joke, cut it out of the 95 00:04:26,447 --> 00:04:26,728 show. 96 00:04:26,747 --> 00:04:28,891 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just go back to what you were saying. 97 00:04:28,891 --> 00:04:29,752 I'm an asshole. 98 00:04:29,752 --> 00:04:32,035 I was so excited when I heard you say Ohana. 99 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:42,399 Speaker 2: Oh, no. 100 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:43,403 Well, I mean, it is the Polynesian resort. 101 00:04:43,403 --> 00:04:44,687 There is a big Stitch presence there in terms of like the 102 00:04:44,706 --> 00:04:45,589 merchandise and everything at the resort. 103 00:04:45,589 --> 00:04:46,632 But yeah, this is more like a tiki themed place. 104 00:04:46,632 --> 00:04:47,536 But yeah, the restaurant is called ohana. 105 00:04:47,536 --> 00:04:48,098 It's all you can eat. 106 00:04:48,098 --> 00:04:50,766 They have like the best sesame noodles ever. 107 00:04:50,766 --> 00:04:54,798 So I was just, you know, going hard midway through my day 108 00:04:54,937 --> 00:04:58,507 eating sesame noodles and then, you know, I was absolutely 109 00:04:58,526 --> 00:04:59,108 stuffed again. 110 00:04:59,108 --> 00:04:59,750 It's all you can eat. 111 00:04:59,750 --> 00:05:01,641 You just, you know, keep, you, keep ordering more. 112 00:05:01,641 --> 00:05:04,987 Anyway, we go back to the park later in the day, we enjoy the, 113 00:05:05,048 --> 00:05:07,632 the fireworks show, like at 9 o'clock or 10 o'clock or 114 00:05:07,653 --> 00:05:10,245 something like that, and then the park's open for another hour 115 00:05:10,245 --> 00:05:11,228 after that point. 116 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:13,447 And that's when I decided all right, let's go to Casey's 117 00:05:13,468 --> 00:05:13,728 Corner. 118 00:05:13,728 --> 00:05:16,608 I've had enough time to let this settle into my system. 119 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:19,547 I have enough room, guys, I did not have enough room. 120 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:26,701 Speaker 1: By the time. 121 00:05:26,721 --> 00:05:29,348 Speaker 3: I was halfway through at foot long six inches deep. 122 00:05:29,408 --> 00:05:31,031 Speaker 2: That sounds so wrong Anyway. 123 00:05:32,041 --> 00:05:35,891 Speaker 3: I looked at Rich immediately after he said that. 124 00:05:35,891 --> 00:05:39,199 I looked at Rich to see what his reaction was going to be. 125 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:41,766 Ladies and gentlemen, a high school teacher I do not have a 126 00:05:42,850 --> 00:05:46,065 straight face If things like this happen in the classroom. 127 00:05:46,567 --> 00:05:47,209 Speaker 1: It just happens. 128 00:05:47,209 --> 00:05:48,230 I can't control myself. 129 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:48,872 I'm sorry. 130 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:50,261 Speaker 3: Dakota. 131 00:05:50,261 --> 00:05:54,370 It sounds like that hot dog made it a bad day for you. 132 00:05:55,271 --> 00:05:55,773 Speaker 2: It could have. 133 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:56,944 Yeah, it almost did. 134 00:05:56,944 --> 00:06:02,829 I was really struggling and my wife Jen, she looked over at me 135 00:06:02,869 --> 00:06:04,733 like this is something that we were really excited about. 136 00:06:04,733 --> 00:06:06,867 This was something that we were going to end our trip on 137 00:06:07,319 --> 00:06:07,600 Dakota's. 138 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,387 Going to eat another footlong hot dog with that stupid hat. 139 00:06:10,387 --> 00:06:11,911 We're going to take pictures, yeah. 140 00:06:11,911 --> 00:06:14,769 So I did end up eating it. 141 00:06:14,939 --> 00:06:17,627 But you know, my wife is just like, oh, if you're, you know, 142 00:06:17,646 --> 00:06:19,572 if you're not feeling it, you don't have to. 143 00:06:19,572 --> 00:06:23,735 And then my brother-in-law came in with the pep talk like dude, 144 00:06:23,735 --> 00:06:26,656 we didn't come all the way from New York just for you to cag 145 00:06:26,716 --> 00:06:27,538 out right here right now. 146 00:06:27,538 --> 00:06:30,928 And you know, he like started like berating me, like, dude, 147 00:06:30,949 --> 00:06:31,571 you got to do this. 148 00:06:31,571 --> 00:06:33,728 This is, you know, like this is a really important. 149 00:06:33,728 --> 00:06:35,346 I was like, oh God. 150 00:06:35,346 --> 00:06:39,502 So I just looked up, I was just like, and I ate the rest of the 151 00:06:39,502 --> 00:06:39,862 hot dog. 152 00:06:39,862 --> 00:06:42,565 And then we went on Pirates of the Caribbean. 153 00:06:42,565 --> 00:06:44,668 There's like a 15-foot drop. 154 00:06:44,668 --> 00:06:47,512 It's not like a big drop or anything, it's barely anything. 155 00:06:47,512 --> 00:06:48,913 But I felt it. 156 00:06:48,913 --> 00:06:51,235 I felt it and I was I can imagine. 157 00:06:51,721 --> 00:06:55,134 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure every step was like a sloshing just 158 00:06:55,154 --> 00:06:56,420 effect going on in your stomach. 159 00:06:56,841 --> 00:06:58,845 Speaker 2: I was so close to making that sweet sweet water 160 00:06:58,865 --> 00:07:00,367 smell in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride not smell like 161 00:07:00,387 --> 00:07:03,112 that sweet sweet water smell in the Pirates of the Caribbean 162 00:07:03,132 --> 00:07:06,802 ride, did not smell like that sweet sweet water smell, but 163 00:07:06,841 --> 00:07:14,052 anyway, I survived the food, stayed down and got 12 inches 164 00:07:14,091 --> 00:07:14,252 deep. 165 00:07:14,252 --> 00:07:15,906 Joey Chestnut would be proud. 166 00:07:15,906 --> 00:07:17,404 Joey Chestnut would be proud. 167 00:07:17,404 --> 00:07:20,627 Actually, I think that was right around the same day that 168 00:07:20,666 --> 00:07:21,488 they had the Nathan's. 169 00:07:21,488 --> 00:07:23,754 Sorry, that was my phone. 170 00:07:23,754 --> 00:07:26,021 I think that was the same day as the nathan hot dog thing. 171 00:07:26,021 --> 00:07:28,324 Guys, enough of me. 172 00:07:28,324 --> 00:07:29,908 Uh, I'm gonna throw it back to anthony. 173 00:07:29,908 --> 00:07:31,872 Uh, what have you been up? 174 00:07:31,932 --> 00:07:32,314 Speaker 3: to sir. 175 00:07:32,314 --> 00:07:38,470 Well, so it's only been what like like two whole days since 176 00:07:38,529 --> 00:07:39,511 we last recorded. 177 00:07:39,511 --> 00:07:45,103 So I mean, since then I had finished up the convention. 178 00:07:45,103 --> 00:07:48,706 I'm going to be honest with you , man, after, like you know, I 179 00:07:48,725 --> 00:07:52,769 guess, like waking up and like kind of recording, I kind of 180 00:07:52,809 --> 00:07:56,533 like chilled back and I almost did not make it that third day. 181 00:07:56,533 --> 00:07:58,334 I just kind of wanted to like relax. 182 00:07:58,353 --> 00:07:59,795 Speaker 2: I knew that was going to happen. 183 00:08:01,057 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: But I did Well. 184 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,762 But the thing is is that I did end up going back to the 185 00:08:07,802 --> 00:08:08,564 convention, and I'm glad I did. 186 00:08:08,564 --> 00:08:09,706 I did pick up a couple things. 187 00:08:09,706 --> 00:08:12,653 I got a like a one piece, like little, uh, like a small, like, 188 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,569 um, like messenger bag thing, and I got like this, um, this 189 00:08:18,588 --> 00:08:23,783 like final fantasy, uh, final fantasy nine a bento box and it 190 00:08:23,824 --> 00:08:27,331 came with with like a, an insulated bag that had like a 191 00:08:27,372 --> 00:08:28,180 chocobo on it. 192 00:08:28,180 --> 00:08:31,487 It's really really cool, um, I got, I got. 193 00:08:31,487 --> 00:08:32,451 I have to show you all. 194 00:08:32,451 --> 00:08:34,422 I'll take a picture, or actually I have pictures. 195 00:08:34,422 --> 00:08:36,788 I'll send it to you guys in a little bit. 196 00:08:36,788 --> 00:08:40,461 But then I also walked around and I happened to see dakota's 197 00:08:40,642 --> 00:08:41,744 uh, best friend over there. 198 00:08:41,744 --> 00:08:42,065 I have a. 199 00:08:42,065 --> 00:08:44,769 Yeah, dakota has a best friend over there I have a. 200 00:08:44,788 --> 00:08:48,114 yeah, dakota has a best friend, you know, you know Dakota. 201 00:08:48,114 --> 00:08:53,466 A little while back, dakota and I we had covered the acolyte 202 00:08:53,846 --> 00:09:00,268 and on his geek critique channel he had made a video about the 203 00:09:00,347 --> 00:09:05,163 acolyte pretty much saying, um, every time, every time the 204 00:09:05,365 --> 00:09:07,961 acolyte broke canon, but not really so, like you know, he's 205 00:09:07,981 --> 00:09:13,596 being ironic with it and dude, like hair in my mouth hated that 206 00:09:13,596 --> 00:09:18,331 I got interrupted by hair, um, and so you know a part. 207 00:09:18,331 --> 00:09:20,879 I mean you, you were calling out like a couple of people, but 208 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:24,515 like one of those people they that were in that group was uh, 209 00:09:24,635 --> 00:09:27,145 star wars theory and he was at the. 210 00:09:27,145 --> 00:09:28,048 He was at the convention. 211 00:09:28,048 --> 00:09:30,777 I saw his, his, um lightsaber booth. 212 00:09:30,777 --> 00:09:31,921 I was like, oh, saber theory. 213 00:09:31,980 --> 00:09:35,489 I knew that that was his uh brand and I was like, okay, like 214 00:09:35,489 --> 00:09:37,922 I'm, and I was like wondering, I was like, oh, is he here? 215 00:09:37,922 --> 00:09:39,866 And like he, I didn't see him. 216 00:09:39,866 --> 00:09:42,142 And then all of a sudden, like he just kind of popped up and I 217 00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:45,451 was like, oh, crap, there, crap, there goes Dakota's boy. 218 00:09:45,451 --> 00:09:48,466 So you know, right then, and there, like right, when I text 219 00:09:48,486 --> 00:09:51,042 that, like was right, when I like noticed it, like almost 220 00:09:51,102 --> 00:09:52,989 immediately, I sent that message to you guys. 221 00:09:53,562 --> 00:09:55,754 Speaker 2: I just imagine like you're looking at his booth 222 00:09:55,774 --> 00:09:58,065 You're not seeing anyone and then you like turn around and 223 00:09:58,265 --> 00:10:02,631 you look down the aisle and it's just like in a black cape and 224 00:10:03,113 --> 00:10:07,056 kind of like that Rogue One scene where the saber just 225 00:10:07,677 --> 00:10:10,347 unsheathes, and it's just like, oh god, here we go. 226 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:14,085 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that I don't hate the guy. 227 00:10:14,085 --> 00:10:14,726 I don't hate the guy. 228 00:10:14,726 --> 00:10:16,664 I know you don't. 229 00:10:18,461 --> 00:10:23,938 Speaker 2: I think right now the grift has taken him to places 230 00:10:24,703 --> 00:10:25,388 he shouldn't go. 231 00:10:26,010 --> 00:10:28,582 Speaker 1: No, jedi should go, it's not his fault, and darth 232 00:10:28,623 --> 00:10:30,226 plagues was right there watching him. 233 00:10:30,226 --> 00:10:31,109 So would. 234 00:10:31,389 --> 00:10:34,203 Speaker 3: Would you say that he had taken a hold of the red 235 00:10:34,244 --> 00:10:34,825 kryptonite? 236 00:10:34,825 --> 00:10:38,312 Yeah, or red kyber crystal, which? 237 00:10:38,312 --> 00:10:41,224 Would be like the star warriors equivalent of red kryptonite 238 00:10:41,846 --> 00:10:42,748 the red kyber night. 239 00:10:42,788 --> 00:10:44,912 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely the red kyber night. 240 00:10:44,932 --> 00:10:46,802 Speaker 3: I like that, uh, no. 241 00:10:46,802 --> 00:10:49,989 So, yeah, that was, that was interesting, uh. 242 00:10:49,989 --> 00:10:53,461 But yeah, no, I I I had a, I had a good time, man, I always 243 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,202 have a good time. 244 00:10:54,202 --> 00:10:58,998 I, you know, met up with some friends and and hung out, I kind 245 00:10:58,998 --> 00:11:02,806 of I got back into, well, I I showed you that I had gotten 246 00:11:02,846 --> 00:11:07,320 back into, uh, magic, the gathering, and I I I sent you a 247 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,229 picture of that, that titus card that I have oh, yeah, yeah, 248 00:11:11,249 --> 00:11:13,761 yeah, yeah, I think you did yeah , so so, yeah, I have like a 249 00:11:13,822 --> 00:11:18,192 final fantasy 10 deck and a final fantasy 14 deck and so I 250 00:11:18,231 --> 00:11:22,008 had gotten some, um, like a magic deck box oh, that's right, 251 00:11:22,008 --> 00:11:26,679 because they had, uh, they had that final fantasy deck box. 252 00:11:26,701 --> 00:11:28,024 Oh that's right, because they had, uh, they had that final 253 00:11:28,043 --> 00:11:28,807 fantasy, yes, pack that came out . 254 00:11:28,807 --> 00:11:31,494 They, they brought me in, but I , I only play, I only play um a 255 00:11:31,553 --> 00:11:33,440 version of the game called commander. 256 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,727 It's like a multiplayer version of magic it's like a four 257 00:11:36,748 --> 00:11:37,910 player right, right, right. 258 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:40,768 You can play like four or five, six players, like you could play 259 00:11:40,768 --> 00:11:42,355 with a bunch of people, the. 260 00:11:42,355 --> 00:11:45,143 But the more you add, the more time you're adding to that 261 00:11:45,683 --> 00:11:48,610 because, like I used to play standard, I know you like dude. 262 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:51,423 You remember I used to like play magic back in the day. 263 00:11:51,423 --> 00:11:55,711 It's just standard got too much , it's too expensive, the 264 00:11:55,751 --> 00:11:57,322 rotations are terrible. 265 00:11:57,322 --> 00:12:01,571 But with commander you can play old cards there's yeah it's a 266 00:12:01,630 --> 00:12:03,986 lot friendlier and and easier in the pocket. 267 00:12:04,067 --> 00:12:05,475 So I was sold. 268 00:12:05,475 --> 00:12:08,166 And then final fantasy came out with commander decks and I was 269 00:12:08,186 --> 00:12:10,956 like, yeah, I'm in, especially that final fantasy 10 one. 270 00:12:10,956 --> 00:12:12,844 But dude, you and I we were. 271 00:12:12,844 --> 00:12:15,812 We were like crazy for final fantasy 10 back in the day. 272 00:12:15,892 --> 00:12:19,443 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was sold on that one they, uh, they 273 00:12:19,464 --> 00:12:23,110 recently announced a avatar the last airbender. 274 00:12:23,429 --> 00:12:26,375 Yes, uh, set, that's coming out later this year and it looks 275 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,653 really cool because the I mean it looks cool because it's 276 00:12:30,833 --> 00:12:31,215 avatar. 277 00:12:31,215 --> 00:12:35,605 But, um, the first card that they showed uh at the of, you 278 00:12:35,645 --> 00:12:40,755 know, like, when they first announced it, was a drawing from 279 00:12:40,755 --> 00:12:44,432 uh brian konyetsuko, which is one of the two creators of the 280 00:12:44,472 --> 00:12:45,157 original series. 281 00:12:45,157 --> 00:12:48,529 So he's still doing art for avatar and he's still doing like 282 00:12:48,529 --> 00:12:51,741 , original art for, or he's starting to do, original art for 283 00:12:51,741 --> 00:12:53,927 , this magic set, which is awesome. 284 00:12:53,927 --> 00:12:56,032 You know, like that they're bringing in not just like their 285 00:12:56,159 --> 00:12:59,693 own group of artists to work on, you know, avatar, the last 286 00:12:59,714 --> 00:13:02,503 airbender, but they're actually bringing the original artists as 287 00:13:02,503 --> 00:13:06,091 well yeah, yeah, no, I I agree it's. 288 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:07,982 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it it's. 289 00:13:07,982 --> 00:13:09,004 It's been a good time. 290 00:13:09,004 --> 00:13:13,953 But, yeah, having going to to super con, I don't know. 291 00:13:13,953 --> 00:13:16,804 Like I remember last year they had some sort of partnership 292 00:13:16,846 --> 00:13:20,660 going on with uh crunchy roll, because they had like this 293 00:13:20,941 --> 00:13:25,702 crunchy roll kind of section upstairs and they're the the 294 00:13:25,965 --> 00:13:30,043 like badges had like different anime, and then the press pass 295 00:13:30,183 --> 00:13:34,451 actually had like the crunchy roll um, the mascot, uh, uh, 296 00:13:34,572 --> 00:13:38,956 crunchy roll Hime, and so, like this year it didn't have that, 297 00:13:38,995 --> 00:13:43,350 it was more of like just like Miami kind of Miami vibes. 298 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,328 The press pass one was like, uh, like one of those like you know 299 00:13:47,328 --> 00:13:52,750 , cuban cafe, like walk-ups that you would go to in miami, or uh 300 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:55,964 , there was like a gator on one, a beach chair on another, like 301 00:13:55,984 --> 00:13:58,250 kind of like you know, like south florida vibes. 302 00:13:58,269 --> 00:13:58,951 That's what it was. 303 00:13:58,951 --> 00:14:02,792 So I don't know if, like, they didn't have like a I mean they 304 00:14:02,831 --> 00:14:05,721 have sponsors, but like I don't think like a major one like 305 00:14:05,841 --> 00:14:10,190 crunchyroll was or partnership, but I mean, I still, I still had 306 00:14:10,190 --> 00:14:13,384 a good time, man, you know, they, they there's always like 307 00:14:14,044 --> 00:14:17,032 really cool, like places to like hang out when you, when you 308 00:14:17,052 --> 00:14:18,542 don't want to walk around anymore. 309 00:14:18,542 --> 00:14:24,269 They had this like whole uh kind of dnd slash, like I guess 310 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:28,941 piratey vibe going on in one of the ballrooms and like they had 311 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,203 some events going on there. 312 00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:34,011 And another room was like one of the the. 313 00:14:34,011 --> 00:14:37,144 It was like a game room, so like they had a bunch of like 314 00:14:37,184 --> 00:14:40,793 pcs and then like consoles all the way from, like you know, 315 00:14:40,832 --> 00:14:43,547 back in the day, like super nintendo, all the way up to you 316 00:14:43,567 --> 00:14:46,807 know, ps5 and stuff, so that that's always fun. 317 00:14:46,866 --> 00:14:49,236 Yeah, like whenever I need to like take a break from like 318 00:14:49,336 --> 00:14:49,960 walking around. 319 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,450 Um, like, I'll go to like one of those rooms, or you know, if 320 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:56,500 there's not like a panel that I want to go see. 321 00:14:56,500 --> 00:15:00,966 Oh, you, you know, uh, your girl, your girl, billy piper was 322 00:15:00,966 --> 00:15:03,208 there my girl yeah, your girl. 323 00:15:03,208 --> 00:15:06,634 Yeah, the bad wolf doctor I've. 324 00:15:06,975 --> 00:15:08,421 Speaker 2: I've never met her, I thought. 325 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:10,947 Speaker 1: I thought his girl was madame, what do you mean? 326 00:15:11,048 --> 00:15:18,530 Speaker 2: you knew her for years, dakota my, my girl is 327 00:15:18,551 --> 00:15:22,097 whoever, whoever, whoever I said no, but yeah, billy piper was 328 00:15:22,118 --> 00:15:22,437 there. 329 00:15:22,678 --> 00:15:25,527 Speaker 3: Uh, christopher eccleston was there too that's 330 00:15:25,606 --> 00:15:28,466 awesome yeah, so yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting. 331 00:15:28,466 --> 00:15:33,682 I, I feel like I would have cared a little bit more if I was 332 00:15:33,682 --> 00:15:37,732 a bit more invested in doctor who, like I, it's just like that 333 00:15:37,732 --> 00:15:42,866 that high for me with doctor who just like went away and I 334 00:15:42,907 --> 00:15:46,740 would say like kind of towards the end of of uh capaldi, and 335 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,235 then after that like I just fell off completely, like I just 336 00:15:50,275 --> 00:15:51,620 felt like I was watching something different. 337 00:15:51,620 --> 00:15:56,389 But you know I digress, you know I I'm gonna move on from uh 338 00:15:56,389 --> 00:16:03,089 convention talk and I'm going to curveball it over to rich I'm 339 00:16:03,089 --> 00:16:03,389 actually. 340 00:16:03,931 --> 00:16:05,942 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to make a little bridge here and 341 00:16:05,961 --> 00:16:08,302 then I'm going to circle it back and then we'll get it to the 342 00:16:08,341 --> 00:16:08,624 show. 343 00:16:08,624 --> 00:16:11,427 So bridge the tickets. 344 00:16:11,427 --> 00:16:14,610 My son and my wife are going to go to. 345 00:16:14,610 --> 00:16:19,145 Charlie and Lauren are going to AnimeCon here in New York. 346 00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:21,909 I think it's in August. 347 00:16:21,909 --> 00:16:26,128 The tickets just came in, so they'll actually be going. 348 00:16:26,128 --> 00:16:29,769 So in a couple of weeks I'll give you guys updates on their 349 00:16:29,809 --> 00:16:30,331 costumes. 350 00:16:30,331 --> 00:16:34,010 I know that they're going, as I believe, characters from Dragon 351 00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:36,587 Ball, but I have to double check this. 352 00:16:36,587 --> 00:16:40,269 He somehow convinces my wife to actually cosplay. 353 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:41,484 Speaker 2: That's cool, though. 354 00:16:41,585 --> 00:16:43,326 Speaker 1: That's fun yeah so it's the one I don't go with 355 00:16:43,527 --> 00:16:43,687 them. 356 00:16:43,687 --> 00:16:46,245 So the report afterwards will be a little bit weird. 357 00:16:46,245 --> 00:16:48,890 I'll get, like some, some second hand from charlie. 358 00:16:48,890 --> 00:16:53,270 But and then, uh, to circle it back to your hot dog story, uh, 359 00:16:53,852 --> 00:16:56,682 and to kind of layer in a little bit of baseball, as anthony 360 00:16:56,721 --> 00:17:00,833 always loves, uh, tuesday is a five dollar dog night at city 361 00:17:00,874 --> 00:17:01,375 field. 362 00:17:01,375 --> 00:17:02,860 I could not believe it. 363 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:05,380 Could not believe it last night , uh, we went there and there 364 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,945 was, it was basically sold out. 365 00:17:06,945 --> 00:17:07,950 It was sold out. 366 00:17:07,950 --> 00:17:09,074 It was a nightmare. 367 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:11,843 I walked in and immediately before I got to the seats, I got 368 00:17:11,843 --> 00:17:12,243 hot dogs. 369 00:17:12,243 --> 00:17:15,051 And just went to the seats because I knew, uh, by the end, 370 00:17:15,152 --> 00:17:19,108 by like the fifth inning, there were like 75 people deep in the 371 00:17:19,169 --> 00:17:20,532 food lines trying to get hot dogs. 372 00:17:20,532 --> 00:17:24,392 But, um, I did get four hot dogs, I did eat them without a 373 00:17:24,432 --> 00:17:24,772 problem. 374 00:17:24,772 --> 00:17:29,449 And then, uh, as we were leaving, my wife said you know, 375 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,435 thank you, because it was just us. 376 00:17:31,435 --> 00:17:33,020 It was kind of like a date night, you know. 377 00:17:33,020 --> 00:17:34,163 She's like you know, thanks for dinner. 378 00:17:34,202 --> 00:17:39,541 And I was like, uh, you got two hot dogs, like that's not, I'm 379 00:17:39,582 --> 00:17:41,588 not, I'm not taking, you know. 380 00:17:41,588 --> 00:17:43,796 And she was like but I had, you know they were good and I had a 381 00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:44,298 good time. 382 00:17:44,298 --> 00:17:49,729 And I said that I felt I'm not sure if I felt shame for having 383 00:17:50,530 --> 00:17:52,621 somehow lowered my wife's standard so much that she was 384 00:17:52,681 --> 00:17:56,589 thankful to have two hot dogs in the mess game, um, or immense 385 00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:59,962 pride that I have I have done this. 386 00:17:59,962 --> 00:18:01,204 I'm not sure which one it is. 387 00:18:01,204 --> 00:18:05,551 It's's probably a bit of both, yeah, but I'll tell you my 388 00:18:05,612 --> 00:18:07,634 thoughts on this movie are not a bit of both. 389 00:18:07,634 --> 00:18:10,788 So maybe we want to launch into this. 390 00:18:11,269 --> 00:18:12,211 Speaker 2: Let's do it, guys. 391 00:18:12,211 --> 00:18:14,007 20 minutes into the pod. 392 00:18:14,007 --> 00:18:17,450 Let's cover Superman the movie. 393 00:18:18,259 --> 00:18:19,665 Speaker 3: Should we fly into it ? 394 00:18:21,844 --> 00:18:22,567 Speaker 2: Let's start slow. 395 00:18:22,567 --> 00:18:25,721 We'll just leap over tall buildings for the, for the, you 396 00:18:25,741 --> 00:18:27,644 know start of this. 397 00:18:27,644 --> 00:18:34,888 All right, folks, christopher Reeve, he's the first that 398 00:18:35,109 --> 00:18:46,020 really made people think that, you know, a man could fly. 399 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:48,989 This isn't a joke, this isn't like I'm not laying up you, you, 400 00:18:48,989 --> 00:18:51,924 you both look like I'm about to say something really funny. 401 00:18:51,924 --> 00:18:55,319 I'm just, I'm just starting to get into the conversation of of 402 00:18:55,380 --> 00:18:55,621 all this. 403 00:18:55,621 --> 00:18:58,667 What did, what did we think of the beginning of this movie, 404 00:18:58,728 --> 00:19:04,086 because there's a lot of preamble before we actually even 405 00:19:04,086 --> 00:19:08,060 get to the man of steel uh not necessarily the movie, but you 406 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,347 know the, the guy in the the red cape. 407 00:19:11,290 --> 00:19:12,354 Uh rich, we'll start with you. 408 00:19:12,575 --> 00:19:16,564 Speaker 1: You seem to have the most to say about this all right 409 00:19:16,564 --> 00:19:20,590 , look, I have not seen this movie in a very long time. 410 00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:22,819 I have, I don't, I would. 411 00:19:22,819 --> 00:19:25,167 I'm not going to say I have like encyclopedic knowledge, but 412 00:19:25,167 --> 00:19:28,326 I do have a good working knowledge of most superhero 413 00:19:28,367 --> 00:19:28,929 movies. 414 00:19:28,929 --> 00:19:35,069 Uh, I have a, you know, like batman 89, although I was, uh, I 415 00:19:35,069 --> 00:19:37,238 think I was seven when I received that for christmas that 416 00:19:37,238 --> 00:19:38,622 year or something like that, or the next year. 417 00:19:38,622 --> 00:19:39,644 I think I got it in 90. 418 00:19:40,144 --> 00:19:44,273 You know, I, I watched that tape till it was, you know, I mean, 419 00:19:44,334 --> 00:19:48,201 just bare and could barely play anymore this one. 420 00:19:48,201 --> 00:19:50,484 So the what is it? 421 00:19:50,484 --> 00:19:56,294 45 minutes before we get to adult, uh, clark is I was not 422 00:19:56,314 --> 00:19:56,980 prepared for that. 423 00:19:56,980 --> 00:19:59,988 You know, like every minute that passed, I'm like all right, 424 00:19:59,988 --> 00:20:05,709 we're gonna move it along here, folks, and and okay, so I'm not 425 00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:07,011 even sure if I should keep going. 426 00:20:07,232 --> 00:20:13,529 I, I, the scenes on krypton were mind-boggling to me. 427 00:20:13,529 --> 00:20:16,980 So I don't understand, like richard donner, you couldn't get 428 00:20:16,980 --> 00:20:22,148 , I don't know, 200 freaking kids and adults of varying ages 429 00:20:22,669 --> 00:20:27,036 to make me feel like Krypton is a planet that is actually dying 430 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,383 and about to explode. 431 00:20:28,383 --> 00:20:30,807 Instead, it's like the council people. 432 00:20:30,807 --> 00:20:34,765 Like they're like oh no, and it's like a bunch of old dudes 433 00:20:35,186 --> 00:20:37,960 and like it's like they get their just desserts right, like 434 00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:42,635 the council does, because they didn't listen to uh Jor-El, uh, 435 00:20:42,695 --> 00:20:45,550 who is a little full of himself, but you know, whatever, uh, uh, 436 00:20:45,550 --> 00:20:49,425 he does seem to get turned on really quickly like, hey, I just 437 00:20:49,425 --> 00:20:50,186 helped you guys. 438 00:20:50,347 --> 00:20:53,461 You know, lock up the worst three people in the history of 439 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,163 krypton. 440 00:20:54,163 --> 00:20:58,652 It's like three weeks later, if you do this, you shall be bad. 441 00:20:58,652 --> 00:21:00,521 Like what are you what? 442 00:21:00,521 --> 00:21:02,967 The lack of faith in him? 443 00:21:02,967 --> 00:21:05,952 Like hey, look, I know they have to do a lot of backstory, 444 00:21:05,992 --> 00:21:08,470 they'd have to do a lot of exposition, but maybe you don't 445 00:21:08,510 --> 00:21:10,539 even need to make it this complicated. 446 00:21:10,539 --> 00:21:14,125 Maybe you don't have to make it that complicated, because I 447 00:21:14,165 --> 00:21:19,861 don't, it's, it is it is a lot, and it's not even just 448 00:21:19,922 --> 00:21:21,566 exposition for this movie. 449 00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:23,510 Speaker 2: It's exposition for the sequel? 450 00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:24,682 Speaker 1: yeah, because you need to have that's. 451 00:21:24,682 --> 00:21:26,969 It's like the only reason you have this odd scene right is so 452 00:21:27,009 --> 00:21:30,403 that you know they're they're front loading the zod stuff for 453 00:21:30,443 --> 00:21:31,165 the second movie. 454 00:21:31,205 --> 00:21:34,132 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I I do agree that while I didn't 455 00:21:34,413 --> 00:21:38,026 dislike it, I I actually was really intrigued by all of it. 456 00:21:38,026 --> 00:21:39,107 I love the. 457 00:21:39,107 --> 00:21:45,240 Uh, I love like the 60ies and seventies, like campy futuristic 458 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,145 , like sci-fi world. 459 00:21:47,145 --> 00:21:51,867 Flash Gordon like old doctor who I love that stuff, it just. 460 00:21:52,529 --> 00:21:55,444 Speaker 3: I just I like how they're like clothing, look like 461 00:21:55,444 --> 00:22:00,165 something out of Tron too Like, or Tron would have gotten that 462 00:22:00,226 --> 00:22:00,969 from this movie. 463 00:22:01,780 --> 00:22:03,567 Speaker 2: I'm actually a little confused about how they did 464 00:22:03,607 --> 00:22:03,788 that. 465 00:22:03,788 --> 00:22:04,230 Like what? 466 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:05,803 What kind of material was that? 467 00:22:05,803 --> 00:22:06,364 Where was? 468 00:22:06,423 --> 00:22:09,390 Speaker 3: so shiny like it was so reflective. 469 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:11,621 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a foil, almost. 470 00:22:12,221 --> 00:22:13,304 Speaker 3: Uh, that's crazy. 471 00:22:13,304 --> 00:22:18,131 Um, you, you know what effect that I like that was like kept 472 00:22:18,471 --> 00:22:25,945 years later was, um, when general zod ursa and non that 473 00:22:25,965 --> 00:22:29,911 they, when they were sent to the Phantom Zone, that same effect. 474 00:22:29,911 --> 00:22:35,462 They use that in later Superman stuff and they use it in 475 00:22:35,683 --> 00:22:39,650 Smallville, remember, when he gets sent to the Phantom Zone, 476 00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:43,748 and it's literally that same effect of them in in like a flat 477 00:22:43,748 --> 00:22:46,713 , just a flat dimensional surface. 478 00:22:46,713 --> 00:22:47,782 I like that. 479 00:22:47,782 --> 00:22:51,266 That's like just been used, like that thing has not been 480 00:22:51,385 --> 00:22:52,209 updated at all. 481 00:22:52,921 --> 00:22:57,030 Speaker 2: Can I just say like the Phantom Zone is the hardest 482 00:22:58,012 --> 00:22:58,881 sound Like. 483 00:22:58,881 --> 00:23:04,730 It's like the most metal descriptor for like a prison 484 00:23:05,611 --> 00:23:09,565 ever, like the you're going to the phantom zone like it sounds 485 00:23:09,625 --> 00:23:12,076 cool, you know, you know like and it's also it's even worse 486 00:23:12,115 --> 00:23:14,041 than like a regular prison too. 487 00:23:14,142 --> 00:23:19,411 So, yes, like there's no escape yeah, it's, it's uh, it's a good 488 00:23:19,411 --> 00:23:22,662 time in there, but somehow they they do escape. 489 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:25,186 Yeah, well, you know we'll have to get to that eventually, but 490 00:23:25,828 --> 00:23:33,491 for now this is all exposition, and there's a lot of exposition 491 00:23:34,154 --> 00:23:35,160 because it doesn't end there. 492 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,223 We see quite a bit of Clark flying through the cosmos, going 493 00:23:41,223 --> 00:23:41,403 to Earth. 494 00:23:41,403 --> 00:23:42,688 We get a lot of him in Smallville like a surprising 495 00:23:42,728 --> 00:23:44,152 amount, like more than I remembered. 496 00:23:44,152 --> 00:23:48,228 Again, this is a movie that I haven't seen in at least 10 to 497 00:23:48,268 --> 00:23:48,808 15 years. 498 00:23:48,808 --> 00:23:53,128 My wife had never seen it, so that means it's got to be at 499 00:23:53,189 --> 00:23:55,900 least 15 years since I had seen it last, because I would have 500 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,441 seen it with her. 501 00:23:56,441 --> 00:23:58,243 So that was something. 502 00:23:58,243 --> 00:24:02,150 So, again, a lot of this was new, new enough for me that, 503 00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:05,756 like, this revisit, uh was was worth doing at this time. 504 00:24:05,756 --> 00:24:11,048 So I'm I'm happy that we, we did it and, uh, to weigh the 505 00:24:11,109 --> 00:24:15,202 scales a little bit, like as far as like what richard donner did 506 00:24:15,202 --> 00:24:19,692 for, um, all the front loading of, you know, the backstory of 507 00:24:19,711 --> 00:24:20,132 superman. 508 00:24:20,132 --> 00:24:25,631 This is, for many people, their first introduction to superman. 509 00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:30,886 You know, like, in the 21st century we've had a number of, 510 00:24:30,967 --> 00:24:33,174 we have had like four or five shows at this point. 511 00:24:33,174 --> 00:24:37,685 We've had multiple cartoons, we've had multiple different uh 512 00:24:37,865 --> 00:24:42,453 actors play him on the big screen and we know the story. 513 00:24:42,453 --> 00:24:44,605 We don't need to be told the story again and that's why they 514 00:24:44,625 --> 00:24:45,970 don't do it in 2025. 515 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:50,131 But this is the first major time that this is being shown for 516 00:24:50,270 --> 00:25:00,034 audiences and I have I never met my great-grandfather on my 517 00:25:00,074 --> 00:25:08,278 father's side, but I have a nice story from him because he went 518 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,085 to go see this movie, basically like the scene where he catches 519 00:25:11,306 --> 00:25:14,061 lois falling off the daily planet building and then catches 520 00:25:14,061 --> 00:25:15,086 the the helicopter. 521 00:25:15,086 --> 00:25:18,380 My grandfather told me like he looked over and he saw my great 522 00:25:18,460 --> 00:25:22,502 grandfather crying, uh, and like this is the guy who you know 523 00:25:22,584 --> 00:25:24,925 left Star Wars the year prior and said garbage. 524 00:25:24,925 --> 00:25:30,630 So I don't know this man, I've never met him in my life, but 525 00:25:31,171 --> 00:25:35,974 knowing that this touched him in a way deep down is something 526 00:25:36,015 --> 00:25:38,336 that I'll always think of when I'm thinking about this movie. 527 00:25:38,336 --> 00:25:48,825 And I think of him and the idea of him when I think of the 528 00:25:48,845 --> 00:25:50,189 front loading of all this information because, like I 529 00:25:50,209 --> 00:25:51,553 doubt he's that he had ever picked up a comic book. 530 00:25:51,574 --> 00:25:52,476 You know, he, you know, lived in . 531 00:25:52,476 --> 00:25:56,727 He lived in puerto rico his whole life until he came to, uh, 532 00:25:56,727 --> 00:25:59,132 brooklyn or whatever, but yeah. 533 00:25:59,132 --> 00:26:01,362 So this was his first introduction to superman, so he 534 00:26:01,442 --> 00:26:02,503 needed all that backstory. 535 00:26:02,503 --> 00:26:06,048 Maybe not as much as we were shown, but I think it's kind of 536 00:26:06,088 --> 00:26:10,615 cool that, like, you get the entire truncated history of you 537 00:26:10,654 --> 00:26:14,286 know cal allen clark camp before you get to, uh, superman. 538 00:26:14,467 --> 00:26:17,333 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I was a little bit like skewed almost 539 00:26:17,333 --> 00:26:20,991 by watching obviously what we did last week, uh, because you 540 00:26:21,011 --> 00:26:22,396 know they didn't do any lot of that. 541 00:26:22,396 --> 00:26:24,907 And obviously I mean I'm also a guy who you know I read 542 00:26:24,928 --> 00:26:25,568 volume't do any lot of that. 543 00:26:25,568 --> 00:26:27,255 And obviously I mean I'm also a guy who, you know I read volume 544 00:26:27,255 --> 00:26:28,196 two of Wolverine completely. 545 00:26:28,196 --> 00:26:30,983 And there was a certain point where I was like if this 546 00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:35,632 Wolverine guy tells me what his power set is, one more gosh darn 547 00:26:35,632 --> 00:26:37,515 time I'm going to lose it. 548 00:26:37,515 --> 00:26:40,662 You know I'm like I'm Wolverine , I got you know, and he would 549 00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:42,365 kind of repeat it at the beginning of each comic. 550 00:26:42,365 --> 00:26:45,351 I guess as an avid fan, sometimes it was a little bit 551 00:26:45,371 --> 00:26:48,980 much and maybe that's. 552 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,528 I still think I'm not wrong about the Krypton part being 553 00:26:51,588 --> 00:26:52,852 kind of poorly written. 554 00:26:52,852 --> 00:26:57,362 I don't think that you get the feeling that, like, because I 555 00:26:57,382 --> 00:27:01,481 don't think the suffering of Krypton is truly captured and 556 00:27:01,502 --> 00:27:04,457 that could have just been one room with like a camera that 557 00:27:04,477 --> 00:27:06,664 just went sideways, which they had. 558 00:27:06,664 --> 00:27:07,708 They literally had this. 559 00:27:07,708 --> 00:27:10,597 Just get extras off the street to, you know. 560 00:27:10,597 --> 00:27:13,728 So it's not just like old dudes falling over, like it. 561 00:27:13,728 --> 00:27:17,519 I want I hate to say this, but like you need to see other 562 00:27:17,619 --> 00:27:18,181 children. 563 00:27:18,181 --> 00:27:22,348 Not I don't need to see them die on camera, but what I'm 564 00:27:22,388 --> 00:27:26,054 saying is like clark got an opera, sorry, kal-el got an 565 00:27:26,115 --> 00:27:27,662 opportunity, and does he? 566 00:27:27,662 --> 00:27:30,007 He also says it a little bit weird here is it just me? 567 00:27:30,007 --> 00:27:33,381 He doesn't say kal-el, he says kal-el. 568 00:27:33,381 --> 00:27:34,544 Look like I don't know. 569 00:27:34,743 --> 00:27:38,472 He says it kal-el yeah, yeah he says it a little bit and in a 570 00:27:38,492 --> 00:27:41,386 way, well, whatever, that's just me just being super picky, but 571 00:27:41,666 --> 00:27:46,479 I just feel like there was a way to demonstrate that like he's 572 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:50,767 truly krypton's last hope, right , and but, but that there were 573 00:27:50,846 --> 00:27:55,201 also others that could have possibly, you know, that are 574 00:27:55,342 --> 00:27:57,326 that are suffering, there are other children there that will 575 00:27:57,386 --> 00:28:01,406 never be able to live their life out, and I think that that's a 576 00:28:01,507 --> 00:28:05,038 super important part of us knowing about how krypton, what 577 00:28:05,057 --> 00:28:09,788 happens to krypton, and that kind of loss, uh, so that that 578 00:28:09,827 --> 00:28:12,579 was just a little bit puzzling to me, you know, and I'm and I'm 579 00:28:12,579 --> 00:28:14,605 really watching it, I am trying to watch it with a. 580 00:28:14,625 --> 00:28:19,488 This was 1978 and there, and I'm going to say this, and, despite 581 00:28:19,488 --> 00:28:21,637 the fact that I'm going to trash it later on and I'm going 582 00:28:21,657 --> 00:28:25,721 to throw it over to anthony, but I, I still appreciate this as 583 00:28:25,762 --> 00:28:29,358 what I truly feel is like the grandfather of these movies, 584 00:28:29,419 --> 00:28:32,250 right, without Superman, we don't get. 585 00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:35,544 I don't think we get a Batman, you know, I don't get with, I 586 00:28:35,564 --> 00:28:35,786 don't get. 587 00:28:35,786 --> 00:28:38,082 We think we get some of the other ones that come after this. 588 00:28:38,082 --> 00:28:42,278 So, like it's not perfect and I'm gonna, I'm gonna trash it, 589 00:28:42,377 --> 00:28:46,355 but at the same time like thank you for this being a thing, 590 00:28:46,415 --> 00:28:48,922 because if not, I don't think we got to watch what we did last 591 00:28:48,961 --> 00:28:52,119 week fair enough, I'm gonna send it over to anthony. 592 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,608 Speaker 2: How do you feel about , uh, the, the opening of this 593 00:28:54,648 --> 00:28:57,155 movie, or like how trippy it is, or anything? 594 00:28:57,155 --> 00:28:57,656 What? 595 00:28:57,656 --> 00:29:01,286 What is your heart deemed to to say about this? 596 00:29:01,747 --> 00:29:04,992 Speaker 3: no, I, I agree that you know that this was. 597 00:29:04,992 --> 00:29:10,501 You know we we had and you said we had a portrayal, or we've 598 00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:14,132 had portrayals of Superman prior to this, but I'm going to feel 599 00:29:14,172 --> 00:29:19,240 like this is this Superman is like the first, like real modern 600 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:25,395 take on Superman and I feel like the that beginning was 601 00:29:25,556 --> 00:29:25,957 needed. 602 00:29:25,957 --> 00:29:32,111 You know that you know a lot of people who do know about, you 603 00:29:32,131 --> 00:29:34,440 know, superman and him being from Krypton. 604 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,672 You know they still didn't see, you know they didn't really see 605 00:29:37,672 --> 00:29:39,195 stuff like that on the screen, you know. 606 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:43,096 So, even if there, this was something that somebody knew, 607 00:29:43,217 --> 00:29:46,789 you know about Krypton being destroyed and him and Superman 608 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:48,375 being sent to to earth, earth. 609 00:29:48,375 --> 00:29:52,213 You know it's still something that like, even as a fan, like 610 00:29:52,513 --> 00:29:55,621 it's, it's cool to see, right, so I don't, I don't have any 611 00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:56,221 issues. 612 00:29:56,221 --> 00:30:03,040 Uh, I give grace to, to, to them, especially with casting. 613 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,203 I mean, that was like back in the day, dude. 614 00:30:05,203 --> 00:30:08,797 Like you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna really like rip 615 00:30:08,817 --> 00:30:11,804 them for not having enough people on Krypton. 616 00:30:12,509 --> 00:30:13,875 Speaker 1: But you got Marlon Brando. 617 00:30:13,875 --> 00:30:18,642 You just you know, like if you had enough to pay, that's enough 618 00:30:18,642 --> 00:30:18,902 man. 619 00:30:19,772 --> 00:30:22,031 Speaker 3: They paid Brando and Hackney If they only had, if 620 00:30:22,053 --> 00:30:25,760 they only had Jor-El and Lara and Kal-El. 621 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,403 That's it, man. 622 00:30:26,403 --> 00:30:27,653 That's all we needed, bro. 623 00:30:27,653 --> 00:30:28,415 That's all we needed, bro. 624 00:30:28,415 --> 00:30:29,199 That's all we really needed. 625 00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:35,576 No, but it was cool seeing the whole Phantom Zone effect and 626 00:30:35,636 --> 00:30:40,074 seeing General Zod get sent away , and that pretty much being a 627 00:30:40,154 --> 00:30:43,541 setup for after this sequel. 628 00:30:43,541 --> 00:30:47,577 And I did like you said. 629 00:30:47,577 --> 00:30:53,601 It had been even longer than you, dakota, that I had seen 630 00:30:53,621 --> 00:30:53,981 this movie. 631 00:30:53,981 --> 00:30:56,650 I hadn't seen this movie in so long, so it was almost like 632 00:30:56,711 --> 00:30:58,515 watching it for the first time again. 633 00:30:58,515 --> 00:31:02,810 You know, like you have like maybe faint flashes, but nothing 634 00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:04,153 concrete to really be like. 635 00:31:04,153 --> 00:31:05,817 Oh yeah, I remember that, you know. 636 00:31:05,817 --> 00:31:07,861 So, yeah, I was. 637 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,673 I was pleasantly surprised to see how long they stuck it out 638 00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:17,722 in in smallville and I didn't even remember that that like 639 00:31:17,782 --> 00:31:18,890 lana was in this. 640 00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:21,894 So I was like, oh wow, lana was in this too. 641 00:31:21,894 --> 00:31:25,238 So it was, it was cool, it I? 642 00:31:25,238 --> 00:31:28,701 I thought it was like a cool, like setup. 643 00:31:28,701 --> 00:31:34,094 It sure it took like a chunk of the beginning of the movie, but 644 00:31:34,094 --> 00:31:36,923 I feel like, for the time of what and for what came before, 645 00:31:36,983 --> 00:31:42,413 that it was necessary all right, all right, so we finally get to 646 00:31:42,413 --> 00:31:45,917 , or I guess, uh, we, we have to go back a little bit. 647 00:31:45,998 --> 00:31:50,762 Speaker 2: We have an 18-year-old Clark go, you know, 648 00:31:50,863 --> 00:31:57,958 after Jonathan Kent dies, he gets the calling from the 649 00:31:57,978 --> 00:32:02,976 crystals, I guess, that are in the shed to go find a place 650 00:32:03,016 --> 00:32:07,432 where he can call his Fortress of Solitude, and he does, and 651 00:32:07,451 --> 00:32:13,676 basically he goes into this like 12 or 13 year uh retreat where 652 00:32:13,696 --> 00:32:18,753 he just learns about the, the wonders of the universe, which 653 00:32:18,834 --> 00:32:19,915 is kind of cool, I guess. 654 00:32:19,915 --> 00:32:23,863 Um, but I don't know why it needed to be 12 years. 655 00:32:23,883 --> 00:32:28,819 Speaker 1: uh, maybe just was it 12 years yeah, I mean it seemed 656 00:32:28,819 --> 00:32:29,402 like it was. 657 00:32:29,402 --> 00:32:31,930 I think that's fairly accurate. 658 00:32:31,930 --> 00:32:34,616 It was a long study session. 659 00:32:34,616 --> 00:32:39,509 He made so many flash cards yeah, 12 years, that's 660 00:32:39,568 --> 00:32:41,593 interesting so that's the you know like. 661 00:32:41,593 --> 00:32:43,737 I mean I I did like. 662 00:32:43,737 --> 00:32:47,021 The journey now is he is that crystal? 663 00:32:47,021 --> 00:32:51,108 I'm confused because he carries a crystal with him from the 664 00:32:51,148 --> 00:32:55,518 barn that was, uh, you know, with his other, with his like 665 00:32:55,597 --> 00:32:58,103 ship uh, it's a little confusing . 666 00:32:58,222 --> 00:33:01,076 I don't think that that is kryptonite it's just like one of 667 00:33:01,076 --> 00:33:06,392 those, those like information crystals, that yeah, okay all 668 00:33:06,412 --> 00:33:08,199 right, because it's just weird. 669 00:33:08,199 --> 00:33:12,413 And then, um, you know later, obviously kryptonite's used I I 670 00:33:12,473 --> 00:33:15,625 do have a question about that, but we're not quite there yet. 671 00:33:15,684 --> 00:33:17,832 Speaker 2: But uh, I'm a little confused yeah, I do have some 672 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:18,994 questions about that as well. 673 00:33:18,994 --> 00:33:22,771 Uh, like some, some some leaps in judgment were made and I was 674 00:33:22,811 --> 00:33:22,992 hard. 675 00:33:22,992 --> 00:33:27,182 I was having a hard time following um but I think there's 676 00:33:27,182 --> 00:33:30,147 just that smart guys um no, no, I, I, yeah there. 677 00:33:30,147 --> 00:33:33,815 There were a couple times that they they lost me going back to 678 00:33:33,855 --> 00:33:39,452 that like I'm I'm thinking about it like and why he needed to be 679 00:33:39,452 --> 00:33:39,452 . 680 00:33:40,316 --> 00:33:42,623 Speaker 1: He needed to like study for like 12 years 681 00:33:42,903 --> 00:33:45,431 christopher, because christopher reeve looked 12 years older 682 00:33:45,471 --> 00:33:46,090 than the other guy. 683 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:48,792 Maybe, maybe, I don't even know . 684 00:33:49,314 --> 00:33:54,498 Speaker 2: I think it's actually more symbolic because I think a 685 00:33:54,498 --> 00:33:59,981 lot of these movies have, you know, equated Superman with like 686 00:33:59,981 --> 00:34:04,465 a Messiah figure he's very often attributed with like Jesus 687 00:34:04,465 --> 00:34:06,846 , like being on the cross or whatever. 688 00:34:06,846 --> 00:34:10,675 There's a lot of vision, visionary stuff like that in 689 00:34:10,695 --> 00:34:14,378 both Superman Returns and man of Steel Not so much the Superman 690 00:34:14,398 --> 00:34:17,436 2025, but there is a lot of the. 691 00:34:17,436 --> 00:34:22,592 You know, I'm sending my son to help the people of Earth like 692 00:34:22,711 --> 00:34:24,559 Messiah themes in this movie as well. 693 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,391 So I think it's interesting that they waited until he was 30 694 00:34:27,391 --> 00:34:29,775 before he started actually saving lives. 695 00:34:29,775 --> 00:34:35,344 And if you equate that to jesus , he got baptized at 30 and 696 00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:36,914 that's when he began his earthly ministry. 697 00:34:36,914 --> 00:34:41,788 So I think that's kind of that's what I'm interpreting the 698 00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:45,936 the rationale for him, like for them choosing 30 to be the age 699 00:34:45,956 --> 00:34:48,001 that he started being Superman. 700 00:34:48,382 --> 00:34:50,592 I don't know, I think it's kind of a fun little parallel. 701 00:34:50,592 --> 00:34:55,583 Ultimately, it's just, you know , comparing and contrasting two 702 00:34:55,643 --> 00:35:01,094 different, you know things, but I think it's a fun little nod if 703 00:35:01,094 --> 00:35:02,777 that's actually what they were intending. 704 00:35:02,777 --> 00:35:06,219 But yeah, so he becomes Superman. 705 00:35:06,219 --> 00:35:18,458 He immediately goes over to the Daily Planet and he apparently 706 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,384 is a fantastic typer. 707 00:35:19,384 --> 00:35:21,657 He's the fastest typer Perry White's ever seen. 708 00:35:21,657 --> 00:35:23,068 So he immediately gets hired on . 709 00:35:23,068 --> 00:35:24,512 What are we thinking about? 710 00:35:24,512 --> 00:35:30,168 The Daily Planet and the inter inner machinations of a late 70s 711 00:35:30,168 --> 00:35:36,219 newspaper how it's run I, so I, I, I buy this, um, this worked 712 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:37,382 for me really well. 713 00:35:37,681 --> 00:35:40,695 Uh, you know, I thought, uh, the actor it was probably like one 714 00:35:40,715 --> 00:35:44,150 of the best sets, actually, like it was the most like lively and 715 00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:50,661 like energetic, like realistic corporate vibe thing. 716 00:35:50,661 --> 00:35:51,844 That's that's in this movie. 717 00:35:51,844 --> 00:35:52,143 I don't know. 718 00:35:52,143 --> 00:35:52,670 I thought that. 719 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:54,836 I thought they did a really good job with the daily planet, 720 00:35:55,177 --> 00:35:57,913 you know, just show floor the the planet was great. 721 00:35:57,952 --> 00:35:59,077 Speaker 1: I thought perry was great. 722 00:35:59,077 --> 00:36:01,041 Um, I like jimmy, uh. 723 00:36:01,041 --> 00:36:05,634 I like lois, uh, I don't, and I mean it's 1978, right, so I'm 724 00:36:05,653 --> 00:36:07,197 trying to watch this through a chime prism. 725 00:36:07,197 --> 00:36:09,802 But I mean, lois lane is supposed to be the best reporter 726 00:36:09,802 --> 00:36:12,929 on staff and man perry really gets out of her about her 727 00:36:12,989 --> 00:36:15,675 spelling like two times, like within the first, like 10 728 00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:15,896 minutes. 729 00:36:15,896 --> 00:36:17,481 He's like he's like come on lane. 730 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,675 Uh, he's like you know, rapist has one p, not two, uh, which is 731 00:36:21,675 --> 00:36:25,742 and and I know it's meant to make him sound like a jerk, but 732 00:36:25,782 --> 00:36:30,409 I think it's a little bit in 2025 okay, because obviously in 733 00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:38,123 1970 to had cf78, to have a female journalist be, you know, 734 00:36:38,182 --> 00:36:40,972 really kind of the best one on the paper and everything is, is 735 00:36:41,012 --> 00:36:41,815 a big deal right. 736 00:36:41,815 --> 00:36:45,090 So it's almost like they had to kind of juxtapose I mean not 737 00:36:45,110 --> 00:36:47,153 juxtapose it, but they had to undermine her a little bit, I 738 00:36:47,173 --> 00:36:47,474 don't know. 739 00:36:48,135 --> 00:36:50,900 Speaker 2: Uh, that's the only thing, because she I don't, I 740 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:54,311 don't take it that way, I just think it's comedic relief you 741 00:36:54,351 --> 00:36:55,835 know like she's such a good reporter. 742 00:36:55,835 --> 00:37:00,594 She's such a good reporter that she's not actually she's. 743 00:37:00,594 --> 00:37:04,179 She's doing her job, she just needs, you know, someone to edit 744 00:37:04,179 --> 00:37:08,722 her her work because, go ahead and have a banter I think so for 745 00:37:08,722 --> 00:37:08,884 me. 746 00:37:08,925 --> 00:37:11,797 Speaker 1: I mean, as an english guy, right like you want to cut 747 00:37:11,797 --> 00:37:14,449 me deep, right like you want to , you would come at my grammar 748 00:37:14,751 --> 00:37:15,753 syntax or something like that. 749 00:37:15,753 --> 00:37:19,989 So I I guess, as somebody who aspired to be a sports 750 00:37:20,048 --> 00:37:23,420 journalist and cares about my writing and is very, I'm very 751 00:37:23,481 --> 00:37:26,391 careful through the revision process and everything that I do 752 00:37:26,391 --> 00:37:27,052 with my writing. 753 00:37:27,052 --> 00:37:29,016 When he attacked her, I felt it deep. 754 00:37:29,016 --> 00:37:31,780 I was like bro in front of other people, like you did that, 755 00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:33,690 like she's your top girl, like what are you doing? 756 00:37:34,012 --> 00:37:37,199 Speaker 2: well, I think, like in the scene right before, she 757 00:37:37,378 --> 00:37:41,056 asked like how many t's are in this word or how many uh, so 758 00:37:41,117 --> 00:37:44,367 like she's conscious of the fact that she's a terrible speller. 759 00:37:44,367 --> 00:37:46,411 Um, even if she is a good reporter. 760 00:37:46,411 --> 00:37:47,492 So I got it my field. 761 00:37:47,492 --> 00:37:51,079 We haven't actually seen how good of a reporter she is, but, 762 00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:52,840 um, well, actually we do. 763 00:37:52,882 --> 00:37:58,916 Speaker 1: We do kind of get uh a little bit of that I mean, she 764 00:37:58,916 --> 00:38:02,601 does expose the world, she unveils what she it's. 765 00:38:02,601 --> 00:38:05,273 I didn't know that she couldn't have known whatever right, that 766 00:38:05,273 --> 00:38:07,179 anything was going to come of it, because he's obviously the 767 00:38:07,219 --> 00:38:09,795 only one you could think of right, but just like, oh, what's 768 00:38:09,795 --> 00:38:12,050 the one thing that he can't see through? 769 00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:14,601 Lead right and it immediately gets written in. 770 00:38:14,601 --> 00:38:17,771 I do like they do some foreshadowing stuff where, like, 771 00:38:17,771 --> 00:38:21,539 even if it's like the most, like the littlest amount they 772 00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,634 could possibly do, but like pa kent's, like you know he's going 773 00:38:24,634 --> 00:38:25,275 to work on the car. 774 00:38:25,275 --> 00:38:27,018 Hey, pa, don't, don, don't forget. 775 00:38:27,338 --> 00:38:29,844 You know your heart and then everything's good for like 14 776 00:38:29,884 --> 00:38:33,336 years and then like that one day , you know, but like I was like 777 00:38:33,396 --> 00:38:36,043 wait, she did say something by the car. 778 00:38:36,043 --> 00:38:40,137 So in that way, you know, her exposing that, I mean, was 779 00:38:40,177 --> 00:38:43,782 important to the story, because then it plays up really, you 780 00:38:43,802 --> 00:38:50,291 know, importantly in the plot later importantly in the plot 781 00:38:50,311 --> 00:38:50,411 later. 782 00:38:50,431 --> 00:38:51,652 Speaker 2: Uh, throwing it over to anthony, what did we think of 783 00:38:51,652 --> 00:38:54,918 the banter between lois and superman when he showed up on uh 784 00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:59,105 , their balcony, because I did not remember this being as 785 00:38:59,190 --> 00:39:06,742 raunchy as it was I like pink yeah, yeah, I was like really 786 00:39:06,782 --> 00:39:07,222 surprised. 787 00:39:07,282 --> 00:39:10,869 Speaker 3: I was like, oh okay, all right, clark, like you know 788 00:39:10,889 --> 00:39:14,376 what's going on here, like he, he was uh really like tapping 789 00:39:14,436 --> 00:39:19,291 into, um, into, uh, you know that that young clark kind of 790 00:39:19,351 --> 00:39:23,059 vigor, something that that like would have happened in, maybe, 791 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:27,740 uh, smallville, you know she had no reservations in asking what 792 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,831 color are my underwear and he had no reservations in checking, 793 00:39:30,831 --> 00:39:34,867 like that's the craziest thing in a superman movie I think 794 00:39:34,907 --> 00:39:35,550 that's ever happened. 795 00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:38,380 Speaker 2: You know, like he literally turns back time, but 796 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,311 the craziest thing is that he had no problems looking at it. 797 00:39:41,331 --> 00:39:42,853 Speaker 3: Um you, you know, actually, speaking of that, that 798 00:39:42,853 --> 00:39:46,659 so that scene was, you know, actually speaking of that that. 799 00:39:46,659 --> 00:39:50,690 So that scene was like you know , it was really odd and and 800 00:39:50,871 --> 00:39:54,298 obviously, like you know, when they're up flying the, the 801 00:39:54,378 --> 00:39:56,262 physics of that was like so weird. 802 00:39:56,262 --> 00:40:01,289 And I know that it's a 1970s movie, but the physics was so 803 00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:04,677 weird Cause it was almost like Peter Pan, like but it's like 804 00:40:04,918 --> 00:40:06,681 did he extend the flight to her. 805 00:40:06,909 --> 00:40:08,030 Does she have flight now? 806 00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:11,235 Because, like, there's no way unless, like he's going super 807 00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:13,998 fast, that she's going to be staying alongside him and if 808 00:40:14,038 --> 00:40:16,500 he's going super fast, like she would be getting dragged. 809 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:19,724 You know, Like how is she perfectly like, off to his side, 810 00:40:19,724 --> 00:40:23,327 holding his hand, like that you know it's like a waiter right. 811 00:40:24,429 --> 00:40:26,355 Like running with the trailer right, like as long as, uh well, 812 00:40:26,355 --> 00:40:28,882 he was holding her hand, like he wasn't even holding her like 813 00:40:28,961 --> 00:40:32,137 from the bottom, you know, or like from like her torso. 814 00:40:32,137 --> 00:40:34,971 So I always thought I was like I was watching, I was like, hmm, 815 00:40:34,971 --> 00:40:35,753 that's interesting. 816 00:40:35,753 --> 00:40:38,159 But you know, it's it's, it's an old movie. 817 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,572 So like I, I give it grace for that. 818 00:40:40,572 --> 00:40:42,940 But like, if they did something like that nowadays, I would 819 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,514 have been like, you know, we would be tearing it up like dude 820 00:40:45,514 --> 00:40:47,958 , like how did that happen? 821 00:40:47,958 --> 00:40:50,081 Does she magically fly now? 822 00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:56,659 But yeah, but it was kind of like a classic Clark and Lois 823 00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,764 kind of or Superman and Lois kind of thing. 824 00:41:00,231 --> 00:41:02,820 Speaker 2: It was a visually pleasing scene. 825 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:09,197 Though it was a nice magical moment, I do get the Peter Pan 826 00:41:09,237 --> 00:41:12,652 vibes that you're you know you're expressing Like he 827 00:41:12,831 --> 00:41:16,559 offered her some pixie dust and while he was holding her hand 828 00:41:16,701 --> 00:41:18,023 she's capable of flight. 829 00:41:19,992 --> 00:41:23,221 Speaker 3: She is, you know, you hear it now Lois Lane can fly. 830 00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:24,614 Speaker 1: I mean, they even said. 831 00:41:24,614 --> 00:41:28,353 They even like literally said like Peter Pan, right, like it's 832 00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:29,059 almost like they. 833 00:41:29,059 --> 00:41:30,811 They mentioned it like you know . 834 00:41:30,811 --> 00:41:31,956 She's like can I fly with you? 835 00:41:31,956 --> 00:41:33,260 You know like you fly with me? 836 00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:35,652 And then she's like what are you just some like peter pan? 837 00:41:35,652 --> 00:41:39,061 Oh, so, like it's almost like they set it up for it to be very 838 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:42,978 wendy and peter like uh, before it even happened, yeah because 839 00:41:42,998 --> 00:41:44,121 she I mean she falls. 840 00:41:44,262 --> 00:41:47,532 I mean she falls for him in what like seven and a half minutes 841 00:41:47,612 --> 00:41:48,514 and then she starts thinking. 842 00:41:48,514 --> 00:41:55,262 I thought the disembodied voice of her, like asking him if he 843 00:41:55,302 --> 00:41:58,726 can read her mind while they were in the air was a little. 844 00:41:58,726 --> 00:42:01,190 I had completely forgotten about that part. 845 00:42:01,190 --> 00:42:03,838 But she's like does he know what he does to me? 846 00:42:03,838 --> 00:42:07,862 You know like it gets even more raunchy this movie is so trippy 847 00:42:07,862 --> 00:42:07,862 . 848 00:42:07,989 --> 00:42:09,242 Speaker 2: This movie is so trippy. 849 00:42:09,242 --> 00:42:11,994 This movie is so trippy from the moment we're on krypton and, 850 00:42:11,994 --> 00:42:15,463 like all those people, are like being superimposed, falling out 851 00:42:15,463 --> 00:42:17,434 of the you know down the cracks this guy it was. 852 00:42:17,554 --> 00:42:22,150 I was like whoa, um, and then you know all the uh, all the 853 00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:27,177 effects is like baby clark flew over to to earth, like the, the 854 00:42:27,217 --> 00:42:32,005 solar flares and like the, the stardust that he has to fly 855 00:42:32,090 --> 00:42:32,753 through and everything it's. 856 00:42:32,753 --> 00:42:35,485 It's just, it's really cool, like they had, they had a 857 00:42:35,626 --> 00:42:37,893 floating baby upside down for a couple scenes. 858 00:42:37,893 --> 00:42:45,369 There's a lot of really clever and fun ways that they were, you 859 00:42:45,369 --> 00:42:50,190 know, taking this movie and I think the narration of Lois is 860 00:42:50,271 --> 00:42:54,717 just an extension of that and I turned to my wife while I was 861 00:42:54,757 --> 00:42:58,436 watching it because at that moment I kind of realized what 862 00:42:58,838 --> 00:43:03,880 was happening and I actually was very pleased by it because this 863 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,719 is essentially the first superhero blockbuster ever. 864 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,797 There had been like Cape movies before this, but they were 865 00:43:10,856 --> 00:43:13,083 usually like straight to TV or whatever. 866 00:43:13,083 --> 00:43:15,483 This was the first blockbuster superhero movie. 867 00:43:15,483 --> 00:43:19,295 So there was no structure ingrained in the culture of like 868 00:43:19,295 --> 00:43:23,744 what you need to show, what you need to do to make a good 869 00:43:23,784 --> 00:43:27,338 superhero movie, because there wasn't a good superhero movie 870 00:43:27,358 --> 00:43:27,780 before this. 871 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:31,195 This was the first real blockbuster um, in that vein. 872 00:43:31,195 --> 00:43:37,945 So it wasn't constrained by the format and, you know, like the 873 00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:41,097 blueprint that we have for pretty much every superhero 874 00:43:41,117 --> 00:43:42,822 movie that that follows it. 875 00:43:42,942 --> 00:43:45,873 These days, you know, like we we always, you know, kind of talk 876 00:43:45,893 --> 00:43:49,320 about like maybe not on this podcast, but it's constantly 877 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,664 brought up that Marvel is formulaic. 878 00:43:51,664 --> 00:43:53,777 But how does that formula evolve? 879 00:43:53,777 --> 00:43:57,097 It has to start somewhere and this is the start of that 880 00:43:57,137 --> 00:43:57,498 formula. 881 00:43:57,498 --> 00:44:01,320 This is the blueprint to everything else that came after 882 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:01,400 it. 883 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,273 And Rich, you mentioned earlier in the show, you're grateful 884 00:44:04,313 --> 00:44:04,815 for this movie. 885 00:44:04,815 --> 00:44:09,583 I'm grateful for this movie in a similar way, in the sense that 886 00:44:09,583 --> 00:44:14,302 , like this is what an unchained superhero movie looks like. 887 00:44:14,302 --> 00:44:17,791 Like there's no boundaries for, like what they can and can't do 888 00:44:17,791 --> 00:44:17,791 . 889 00:44:17,791 --> 00:44:21,780 They're just having fun with it and, uh, what works works 890 00:44:21,942 --> 00:44:25,556 really well and what doesn't work is just kind of like, all 891 00:44:25,576 --> 00:44:27,860 right, it's still pretty cool because it's Superman. 892 00:44:27,860 --> 00:44:31,876 You know, like I don't know, I kind of dig it. 893 00:44:32,771 --> 00:44:33,856 Speaker 1: I won't lie. 894 00:44:33,856 --> 00:44:36,795 I on one side. 895 00:44:36,795 --> 00:44:41,936 I love the antagonists, I love all three of them. 896 00:44:41,936 --> 00:44:46,157 I love Miss Tessmacher, I love Lex. 897 00:44:46,157 --> 00:44:49,639 I know he's, you know not bald and everything. 898 00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:50,822 I'm sorry I can. 899 00:44:50,822 --> 00:44:51,525 He's not bald and everything. 900 00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:55,394 I'm sorry I can't remember Mr Otis, and Otis is just a 901 00:44:55,454 --> 00:44:55,836 treasure. 902 00:44:57,030 --> 00:45:00,293 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, luther is bald, he just wears a wig. 903 00:45:00,673 --> 00:45:03,451 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, okay yeah yeah, he is bald, yeah 904 00:45:03,451 --> 00:45:04,494 , I remember he rips it off. 905 00:45:04,494 --> 00:45:05,458 Yeah, yeah, all right. 906 00:45:05,458 --> 00:45:10,559 I mean, look, gene hackman is just perfect. 907 00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,050 It's, he's diabolical, but you'll love him. 908 00:45:14,050 --> 00:45:17,664 Right, like it's weird, like he's not scary to children, 909 00:45:17,744 --> 00:45:20,190 right, he's not like that imposing, right, like he's not 910 00:45:20,251 --> 00:45:24,039 like, uh, he's, he's not gonna give you nightmares, right, but 911 00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:28,012 like the man will like, push a button that pushes a dude in 912 00:45:28,032 --> 00:45:30,016 front of a train. 913 00:45:30,016 --> 00:45:38,432 And I loved, loved the underground Grand Central, that 914 00:45:38,472 --> 00:45:42,795 he has his own swimming pool down there and then the tiles. 915 00:45:45,052 --> 00:45:46,597 Speaker 2: The coolest set of all time. 916 00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:49,632 Speaker 1: It's got to be like the coolest, like villain's lair 917 00:45:49,632 --> 00:45:53,079 ever, ever and as a kid like growing up in new york city and 918 00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:55,954 you know I used to play like obviously like into zelda and 919 00:45:55,974 --> 00:45:58,541 stuff and I remember like waiting for like the subway and 920 00:45:58,570 --> 00:46:00,976 like looking and being like oh, it's kind of like a zelda 921 00:46:01,356 --> 00:46:03,871 dungeon, you know and you know there's like hundreds and 922 00:46:03,952 --> 00:46:06,737 hundreds of rooms and caverns underneath new york that are 923 00:46:06,757 --> 00:46:09,831 just abandoned and you will never see the light of day. 924 00:46:10,311 --> 00:46:11,755 Speaker 2: So it's believable. 925 00:46:11,755 --> 00:46:15,161 You know, like we know, that those places do exist. 926 00:46:15,161 --> 00:46:18,956 We know that there are abandoned uh, you know whole 927 00:46:18,996 --> 00:46:21,963 train stations and that that just exists under the city that 928 00:46:22,391 --> 00:46:24,153 are not visitable anymore. 929 00:46:24,153 --> 00:46:26,838 And even when he says to mr smucker. 930 00:46:26,858 --> 00:46:29,764 Speaker 1: He's like what more could you want a park avenue 931 00:46:29,844 --> 00:46:30,244 address? 932 00:46:30,244 --> 00:46:35,164 And she's like 300 feet below the surface, you know, and it's 933 00:46:35,204 --> 00:46:37,190 just, uh, and I know it's supposed. 934 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:41,197 Look, I know that the conceit here is that they're in new york 935 00:46:41,197 --> 00:46:46,193 and not really like they, like it's almost admitted that they I 936 00:46:46,193 --> 00:46:50,081 mean he says park avenue, right , I guess it could be metropolis 937 00:46:50,081 --> 00:46:53,527 park avenue, right, uh, but you know, there is the kind of I 938 00:46:53,547 --> 00:46:57,034 mean anybody who's been to grand central, I think well, well, it 939 00:46:57,034 --> 00:47:02,123 is like it is new york, like everything in in in the city is 940 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:02,851 new york. 941 00:47:02,911 --> 00:47:04,313 Speaker 2: They got the statue of liberty there. 942 00:47:04,313 --> 00:47:08,072 They got um, like all the streets are named as new york 943 00:47:08,211 --> 00:47:08,554 streets. 944 00:47:08,554 --> 00:47:10,753 They they go to grand central, it's grand central. 945 00:47:10,753 --> 00:47:15,545 And like all the all the stops around the train station, like 946 00:47:15,806 --> 00:47:16,889 yeah, that was cool. 947 00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:19,936 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, that's the two stops for me yeah 948 00:47:19,936 --> 00:47:21,840 , so it's like it. 949 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,255 Speaker 2: It's clear they clearly just renamed new york 950 00:47:25,737 --> 00:47:28,326 for for this movie, um, and that that kind of works, because 951 00:47:28,626 --> 00:47:31,675 metropolis is based off of new york yeah, pretty much, you know 952 00:47:31,675 --> 00:47:36,414 you know a lot about new york, anthony do I you live here for 953 00:47:36,434 --> 00:47:37,175 six months or so. 954 00:47:38,277 --> 00:47:41,242 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that that's uh, that was enough time 955 00:47:41,282 --> 00:47:46,438 to um barely know how to to leave the street that that I was 956 00:47:46,438 --> 00:47:53,577 living on in the surrounding area um no, I mean yeah, I did 957 00:47:53,838 --> 00:47:57,224 uh like kind of figure out how to you know, it wasn't too hard 958 00:47:57,264 --> 00:48:00,918 to get into the city via train and you know something that like 959 00:48:00,918 --> 00:48:01,137 you. 960 00:48:01,259 --> 00:48:02,902 You just don't like that. 961 00:48:02,902 --> 00:48:05,233 That's like not a thing here in south florida. 962 00:48:05,233 --> 00:48:10,282 Like we do have metro rails and stuff and there is like trains 963 00:48:10,342 --> 00:48:12,512 and stuff, but you know it's not like. 964 00:48:12,512 --> 00:48:14,056 You know we're living. 965 00:48:14,056 --> 00:48:18,452 You know like like for you it'd be like you know, south of 966 00:48:18,492 --> 00:48:21,577 miami you're not hopping on a train to get into miami. 967 00:48:21,577 --> 00:48:26,612 You know it's a bus or uber up into a certain point and then 968 00:48:26,652 --> 00:48:28,114 maybe hopping onto the Metrorail . 969 00:48:28,114 --> 00:48:30,579 But yeah, that digress from the thing. 970 00:48:35,172 --> 00:48:37,338 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the villains? 971 00:48:37,338 --> 00:48:41,721 How do you feel that they compare to more recent outings? 972 00:48:41,721 --> 00:48:46,442 Because actually Otis and Miss Tessmacher are in the new movie. 973 00:48:46,442 --> 00:48:49,190 Miss Tessmacher is the one who's taking the selfies and 974 00:48:49,291 --> 00:48:52,940 Otis is the black gentleman in the background of all the Lex 975 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,976 Luthor scenes like pulling the levers and stuff. 976 00:48:54,976 --> 00:48:59,481 So they are still with us in spirit. 977 00:48:59,971 --> 00:49:03,690 Speaker 3: I definitely liked Lex in this one a lot. 978 00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:08,742 He had that classic villain vibe going on. 979 00:49:08,742 --> 00:49:13,222 He had his own layer and stuff. 980 00:49:13,222 --> 00:49:15,376 But I did like him a lot. 981 00:49:15,376 --> 00:49:24,219 It was a classic Lex Luthor and I thought that the performance 982 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:24,922 was solid. 983 00:49:24,922 --> 00:49:26,172 It was really good. 984 00:49:26,855 --> 00:49:31,666 Speaker 2: I know that you know, like his knowledge of you know 985 00:49:31,746 --> 00:49:34,934 kind of superman and like his weaknesses and all that stuff 986 00:49:34,994 --> 00:49:39,853 were, you know, I guess kind of compressed a little bit, it was 987 00:49:39,952 --> 00:49:43,726 probably the biggest plot hole for me, um, in terms of like how 988 00:49:43,726 --> 00:49:47,016 he could have possibly determined that a crystal from 989 00:49:47,077 --> 00:49:50,527 his home world would have the opposite effect on him right um 990 00:49:52,233 --> 00:49:54,318 that was a little bit that was my thing kind of. 991 00:49:54,358 --> 00:49:55,681 Speaker 3: I was like wait, was this explained? 992 00:49:55,681 --> 00:49:56,322 Did I miss it? 993 00:49:56,322 --> 00:49:57,673 I thought I missed it. 994 00:49:57,673 --> 00:49:58,034 It was not. 995 00:49:58,034 --> 00:50:00,422 I thought I missed it and I was hoping that you guys. 996 00:50:00,670 --> 00:50:03,260 Speaker 1: I watched it a second time and I'm like I missed it 997 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,952 again, so I was hoping that you guys would fill me in because 998 00:50:07,393 --> 00:50:11,362 he's like and of course, as you know, kryptonite's gonna harm 999 00:50:11,402 --> 00:50:13,954 him and it's like, and he's like , and you know, he immediately 1000 00:50:14,016 --> 00:50:16,853 puts the lead together, you know , and he's like, I just gotta 1001 00:50:16,893 --> 00:50:20,626 fight, you know, and I'm just wow, okay, the lead was was 1002 00:50:20,686 --> 00:50:23,054 explained you know that was explored nicely they did a good 1003 00:50:23,074 --> 00:50:23,335 job. 1004 00:50:23,635 --> 00:50:25,018 Speaker 2: They, they could have figured out. 1005 00:50:25,018 --> 00:50:30,295 There's so much preamble in this movie before he becomes 1006 00:50:30,335 --> 00:50:30,717 superman. 1007 00:50:30,717 --> 00:50:34,463 They could have spent 30 seconds just, uh, figuring out. 1008 00:50:34,463 --> 00:50:37,507 You know, like, how to incorporate kryptonite slightly 1009 00:50:37,548 --> 00:50:41,416 before this moment so that, like , not only the audience but also 1010 00:50:41,416 --> 00:50:47,215 , you know, luther can discover what his weakness is, because 1011 00:50:47,235 --> 00:50:50,768 his weakness isn't lead or the color, apparently a piece of 1012 00:50:50,788 --> 00:50:53,534 kryptonite that he was able to quickly make into a giant 1013 00:50:53,596 --> 00:50:57,210 pendant, which I thought was also awesome, like it was. 1014 00:50:57,411 --> 00:50:58,653 It was a cool pendant. 1015 00:50:58,653 --> 00:51:03,322 Yeah, if you're gonna drown, drown in style you'll attach a 1016 00:51:03,422 --> 00:51:08,378 giant chain yeah, I actually really like that prop. 1017 00:51:08,378 --> 00:51:12,913 I think that was a really cool little little piece of prop 1018 00:51:12,932 --> 00:51:14,717 there also. 1019 00:51:14,737 --> 00:51:16,844 Speaker 1: This just reminds me, this movie reminds me once 1020 00:51:16,885 --> 00:51:21,815 again that it's never a good idea to take a helicopter yeah, 1021 00:51:21,856 --> 00:51:25,262 there seems to be a lot of helicopter like act. 1022 00:51:25,402 --> 00:51:28,034 Speaker 2: I think it's just so fun to watch helicopters explode 1023 00:51:28,034 --> 00:51:32,360 and crash and stuff um I mean in real life it is it's? 1024 00:51:32,701 --> 00:51:36,427 it's like very harrowing, but on screen it's so visually 1025 00:51:36,467 --> 00:51:41,579 appealing, um, and there's actually, like you know, there 1026 00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:46,231 have like been actors who have died in helicopter accidents, um 1027 00:51:46,231 --> 00:51:47,052 , while filming. 1028 00:51:47,052 --> 00:51:49,117 Yeah, I'm not gonna go there, it's. 1029 00:51:49,117 --> 00:51:51,090 It gets pretty gruesome, like what happens to some of these 1030 00:51:51,311 --> 00:51:54,858 like actors who don't make it because of helicopter accidents, 1031 00:51:54,858 --> 00:51:55,739 uh, while filming. 1032 00:51:55,739 --> 00:52:00,155 But I think just the idea of a helicopter being a dangerous 1033 00:52:00,215 --> 00:52:04,083 thing, it's just like a spinning swords in the sky, you know, 1034 00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:09,324 like that that carry you, it's, it's, it's cool it's crazy but. 1035 00:52:09,403 --> 00:52:12,251 Speaker 1: I I thought that the effects there were really cool. 1036 00:52:12,251 --> 00:52:16,621 Uh, I thought that that worked really well and honestly, 1037 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:22,416 christopher reeve, I mean what a great job of playing two 1038 00:52:22,757 --> 00:52:29,090 different characters like just a real, like, even when he seems 1039 00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:32,097 like he's going to tell lois at one point, and he's very 1040 00:52:32,179 --> 00:52:35,032 confident he's got his glasses off and then she walks in, he 1041 00:52:35,072 --> 00:52:39,157 puts the glasses on and his tone changes and he's just very 1042 00:52:39,237 --> 00:52:44,913 meandering in his speech pattern and it's just chef's kiss, like 1043 00:52:44,913 --> 00:52:44,913 . 1044 00:52:45,172 --> 00:52:48,619 Honestly, it was just amazingly well done. 1045 00:52:48,619 --> 00:52:51,190 I thought that I can't remember the new actor's name. 1046 00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:52,371 I don't know. 1047 00:52:52,371 --> 00:52:55,653 I don't think that that his Superman portrayal is bad in any 1048 00:52:55,653 --> 00:52:59,315 way, but there's something about Christopher Reeve as 1049 00:52:59,356 --> 00:53:00,157 Superman. 1050 00:53:00,878 --> 00:53:06,081 Speaker 2: That's just this, I don't know this imposing, regal, 1051 00:53:06,081 --> 00:53:11,664 graceful figure and then when he's Clark, he shrinks into 1052 00:53:11,706 --> 00:53:15,909 himself right it's actually like um, I've heard it described as 1053 00:53:16,009 --> 00:53:21,699 one of the best visual effects ever put on film is is that 1054 00:53:21,739 --> 00:53:24,849 ability for him to just gain like four inches by 1055 00:53:24,929 --> 00:53:27,695 straightening up his back, taking off his glasses and 1056 00:53:27,715 --> 00:53:29,400 becoming an entirely different person. 1057 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,914 Because as soon as he like hunches back down and starts 1058 00:53:31,934 --> 00:53:35,342 like getting all gangly and like tripping over himself, it's a 1059 00:53:35,409 --> 00:53:36,672 completely different performance . 1060 00:53:36,672 --> 00:53:40,201 He's playing two different roles so perfectly and, yeah, 1061 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:41,550 that's, that's a great scene. 1062 00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:47,639 I'm going going a little bit back, uh to um, the, the physics 1063 00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:52,873 of him holding up lois, as well as uh, going, you know, and him 1064 00:53:52,873 --> 00:53:54,456 catching the helicopter and everything. 1065 00:53:54,456 --> 00:53:58,123 You would think that, like, when he catches the helicopter, 1066 00:53:58,210 --> 00:54:01,492 even if you know he's extremely strong, the weight of the 1067 00:54:01,512 --> 00:54:03,960 helicopter would like have him pivot a little bit. 1068 00:54:04,451 --> 00:54:08,759 And I'm wondering about, like a line that his mother on Krypton 1069 00:54:09,641 --> 00:54:14,177 says to Jor-El Earth's gravity won't affect him. 1070 00:54:14,177 --> 00:54:17,539 And it's almost as if like, like or he'll be able to like 1071 00:54:17,579 --> 00:54:18,791 take control of the gravity. 1072 00:54:18,791 --> 00:54:22,760 It's almost as if he's playing with the laws of gravity 1073 00:54:23,442 --> 00:54:24,711 whenever he touches something. 1074 00:54:24,711 --> 00:54:29,442 And I think that's how they treat, you know, like the way 1075 00:54:29,481 --> 00:54:33,074 that he is able to like lift stuff and like move stuff in 1076 00:54:33,155 --> 00:54:37,001 flight with no issues, because as soon as he lets go of lois, 1077 00:54:37,643 --> 00:54:43,219 that's when she falls like she loses that touch on his touch on 1078 00:54:43,219 --> 00:54:45,889 gravity, basically so I don't know, I don't, I don't. 1079 00:54:46,431 --> 00:54:51,139 I, that's how I interpreted it, but I could be just, you know, 1080 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,914 reading logic where there isn't anthony. 1081 00:54:55,914 --> 00:54:56,458 What are your thoughts? 1082 00:54:57,202 --> 00:54:57,804 Speaker 3: I think that's a. 1083 00:54:57,804 --> 00:54:59,652 I think that's a cool theory. 1084 00:54:59,931 --> 00:55:04,581 Speaker 2: You know that he's got a flight touch yeah, I think 1085 00:55:04,581 --> 00:55:07,295 , because he kind of does like as soon as, like as soon as he 1086 00:55:07,355 --> 00:55:09,019 grabs anything, like he could just start flying. 1087 00:55:09,019 --> 00:55:12,717 You know, like it's, it's not an impediment to him yeah, man, 1088 00:55:12,817 --> 00:55:14,661 it's, it's definitely. 1089 00:55:15,242 --> 00:55:18,190 This movie is definitely a a product of its time, though, 1090 00:55:18,210 --> 00:55:23,139 like you can tell that it's an old movie what did we think of 1091 00:55:23,278 --> 00:55:27,931 luther's plan to make more land, or like get like, uh, not 1092 00:55:27,972 --> 00:55:30,434 necessarily make more land, but like make his land more valuable 1093 00:55:30,434 --> 00:55:37,983 bastardly, uh, you know, uh, kind of ridiculous and far. 1094 00:55:38,043 --> 00:55:42,512 Speaker 1: I mean the man he currently lives in in a subway 1095 00:55:42,572 --> 00:55:46,561 station, essentially right, and he's like, like you know, he got 1096 00:55:46,561 --> 00:55:47,809 , he's like my first move. 1097 00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:50,474 You know what my first move is gonna be I'm gonna get out of 1098 00:55:50,494 --> 00:55:54,418 this stinking joint and make my own country like what, like it's 1099 00:55:54,418 --> 00:56:00,431 , but but, uh, it's absurd in a perfect way, right, uh, it's 1100 00:56:01,652 --> 00:56:01,793 it's. 1101 00:56:01,793 --> 00:56:04,500 You know, there's no incremental like improvement of 1102 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:05,021 himself. 1103 00:56:05,021 --> 00:56:08,394 It's like I'm gonna go right for this, you know, and I think 1104 00:56:08,454 --> 00:56:12,784 that's uh, so it's, you know, and I loved even how, you know, 1105 00:56:13,231 --> 00:56:17,838 he was smart enough to shoot two , two nuclear warheads in 1106 00:56:18,338 --> 00:56:21,445 different directions so that Clark wouldn't have any time. 1107 00:56:21,445 --> 00:56:26,280 And I was down, right, because I don't remember it's been a 1108 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:26,681 long time. 1109 00:56:26,681 --> 00:56:29,835 So I saw all of them, right, but they're like a mishmash, 1110 00:56:30,195 --> 00:56:30,336 right. 1111 00:56:30,336 --> 00:56:35,079 So I see I'm like, hey, lois, you might want to get a crevasse 1112 00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:38,418 , that's, that's not looking great, right. 1113 00:56:38,418 --> 00:56:40,898 And then it starts closing on her. 1114 00:56:40,898 --> 00:56:45,416 I'm like, oh, oh, what Does Lois die? 1115 00:56:46,112 --> 00:56:50,329 I was floored by the first movie . 1116 00:56:50,329 --> 00:56:52,918 Yeah, like it was, it was pretty crazy. 1117 00:56:52,918 --> 00:56:59,838 So I, you know, I thought that that he was his plan worked, 1118 00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:00,340 right. 1119 00:57:00,340 --> 00:57:02,202 I mean Superman, big cheated. 1120 00:57:02,202 --> 00:57:05,246 I mean, there's no two ways about it. 1121 00:57:05,246 --> 00:57:09,817 Like Luther did not know that if Superman ran backwards fast 1122 00:57:09,876 --> 00:57:11,320 enough, he could. 1123 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,884 I'm sorry, not backwards, right ? 1124 00:57:13,884 --> 00:57:16,027 Is he actually running backwards or just runs the other 1125 00:57:16,027 --> 00:57:16,027 ? 1126 00:57:16,067 --> 00:57:16,909 Speaker 2: way. 1127 00:57:16,909 --> 00:57:21,197 He's flying in the opposite direction of the rotation of the 1128 00:57:21,197 --> 00:57:23,994 earth to the point where he spins the earth the other way. 1129 00:57:23,994 --> 00:57:27,793 Anthony, what were your thoughts when Lois was dying or 1130 00:57:28,235 --> 00:57:28,556 died? 1131 00:57:30,054 --> 00:57:34,945 Speaker 3: I like I knew, because I knew that she was like 1132 00:57:34,945 --> 00:57:37,869 in the later movie, so I knew something was gonna happen. 1133 00:57:37,869 --> 00:57:40,335 I just don't remember exactly what it was. 1134 00:57:40,335 --> 00:57:44,704 So the fact that, like he had flown I think I kind of 1135 00:57:44,769 --> 00:57:48,824 remembered that he flew back, you know the to turn back time, 1136 00:57:48,844 --> 00:57:51,371 like he had flown in the opposite direction of the 1137 00:57:51,411 --> 00:57:57,503 rotation and and so like I mean that's very much so like a comic 1138 00:57:57,503 --> 00:58:01,295 book thing to do, you know, like oh, we don't have any time 1139 00:58:01,315 --> 00:58:04,684 machines, but yeah, let's just move the rotation of the earth 1140 00:58:04,891 --> 00:58:08,802 in the other direction so we can turn back time yeah, I like, I 1141 00:58:08,842 --> 00:58:12,052 like the visualization of him flying around the earth. 1142 00:58:12,072 --> 00:58:14,398 Speaker 2: I think it's a really cool effect. 1143 00:58:14,398 --> 00:58:19,371 I just find that, uh, every every other time that he's 1144 00:58:19,431 --> 00:58:23,304 flying it looks very slow, you know, like he's just kind of 1145 00:58:23,344 --> 00:58:26,554 like meandering through the screen. 1146 00:58:26,554 --> 00:58:30,902 It's never like a fast zip across the the footage. 1147 00:58:30,902 --> 00:58:33,632 And well, most of the time he is. 1148 00:58:33,713 --> 00:58:36,965 Speaker 3: But I feel like in the time that, like with the 1149 00:58:37,005 --> 00:58:39,657 whole nuclear thing, he could have definitely gotten both of 1150 00:58:39,697 --> 00:58:43,331 those easily, like with how fast he was moving yeah, oh yeah, he 1151 00:58:43,331 --> 00:58:46,119 could have gotten both of those easy but yeah, with the other 1152 00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:46,960 ones I'll give it like. 1153 00:58:46,981 --> 00:58:48,175 You know he's just kind of chilling. 1154 00:58:48,175 --> 00:58:48,838 He's flying. 1155 00:58:48,838 --> 00:58:49,722 You know he's on his little. 1156 00:58:49,722 --> 00:58:53,215 You know flying date doesn't want to break lois's neck by 1157 00:58:53,275 --> 00:58:57,630 moving that fast but yeah, if he can move the planet backwards 1158 00:58:58,472 --> 00:59:02,199 and turn back time, he had enough time to stop those nukes 1159 00:59:02,780 --> 00:59:04,969 he's kind of like santa claus in a way. 1160 00:59:05,010 --> 00:59:07,695 Speaker 2: You know, like he, he's able to be at many places 1161 00:59:07,755 --> 00:59:09,420 at once does he have a? 1162 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:09,780 list. 1163 00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:13,054 He had to have had a list, or at least like he's got really 1164 00:59:13,114 --> 00:59:13,876 good hearing, I guess. 1165 00:59:13,876 --> 00:59:17,753 So, you know, he goes to the san andreas fault, which, by the 1166 00:59:17,753 --> 00:59:21,001 way, goes all the way down california, and he just starts 1167 00:59:21,041 --> 00:59:25,121 like fixing things and he just he fixes everything except 1168 00:59:25,561 --> 00:59:28,429 except, you know, like saving his girlfriend. 1169 00:59:28,429 --> 00:59:31,255 So, yeah, that was that was crazy. 1170 00:59:31,255 --> 00:59:35,983 I it seems to me that I have have the best memory of this 1171 00:59:36,063 --> 00:59:39,865 movie of the three of us, so I must have watched it most 1172 00:59:39,987 --> 00:59:44,239 recently, or it must have made a bigger impact on just me, 1173 00:59:44,978 --> 00:59:47,317 because I do remember this scene very well. 1174 00:59:47,317 --> 00:59:50,893 I'm watching it with my wife, who's never seen the movie, and 1175 00:59:50,932 --> 00:59:53,297 she goes wait, she doesn't die. 1176 00:59:53,297 --> 00:59:55,137 I'm like first movie too. 1177 00:59:55,137 --> 00:59:59,032 I'm playing it up like this, is it, you know? 1178 00:59:59,032 --> 01:00:02,458 Like lois lane's dead I. 1179 01:00:02,579 --> 01:00:05,811 Speaker 3: I was honestly on the next one like I know that she 1180 01:00:06,432 --> 01:00:06,532 is. 1181 01:00:07,554 --> 01:00:07,735 Speaker 1: What's? 1182 01:00:07,735 --> 01:00:11,262 What was weird about it was it was just so, like you know, I 1183 01:00:11,282 --> 01:00:15,418 have, you know, we know, margot kidder, right, she obviously, I 1184 01:00:15,438 --> 01:00:19,094 mean even a family guy, like you know, she was in more than one 1185 01:00:19,114 --> 01:00:21,557 superman, but man, they really got me. 1186 01:00:21,557 --> 01:00:23,001 Uh, that I. 1187 01:00:23,001 --> 01:00:25,934 I won't lie to you now. 1188 01:00:25,934 --> 01:00:28,222 Has has superman in the comics ever done this? 1189 01:00:28,222 --> 01:00:30,329 Has he turned back time just by flying backwards? 1190 01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:32,273 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for you. 1191 01:00:32,273 --> 01:00:35,699 Um, I think that might just be a movie thing, because it 1192 01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:36,420 doesn't make any sense. 1193 01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:37,802 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, because it bothers me. 1194 01:00:37,802 --> 01:00:38,523 The Flash has. 1195 01:00:38,744 --> 01:00:39,385 Speaker 1: Yeah the Flash. 1196 01:00:39,385 --> 01:00:44,012 Yeah, I know the Flash, but he runs backwards, doesn't he like 1197 01:00:44,052 --> 01:00:45,275 run backwards in time? 1198 01:00:46,018 --> 01:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1199 01:00:46,199 --> 01:00:52,922 Basically he has to run faster than the speed of light to break 1200 01:00:52,922 --> 01:00:55,498 time and then he's able to choose where he wants to go. 1201 01:00:55,498 --> 01:00:57,579 Yes, speed of light to break, okay, time, basically, and then 1202 01:00:57,599 --> 01:00:58,599 he's able to like, choose where he wants to go. 1203 01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:01,643 Yes, I don't know that superman was necessarily flying faster 1204 01:01:01,663 --> 01:01:02,443 than the speed of light. 1205 01:01:02,563 --> 01:01:05,465 Speaker 1: Ah, maybe he was, technically yeah, I mean, maybe 1206 01:01:05,485 --> 01:01:06,365 that's the tagline. 1207 01:01:06,365 --> 01:01:09,552 I guess that would be like right, oh no, wait, faster than 1208 01:01:09,592 --> 01:01:12,717 a locomotive, quicker than quicker than a speed of light. 1209 01:01:12,717 --> 01:01:16,525 I've speeding, sorry yeah. 1210 01:01:17,126 --> 01:01:19,210 Speaker 2: No, you're good, you're good, yeah, so what did 1211 01:01:19,289 --> 01:01:20,693 we think of this movie overall? 1212 01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:25,367 Speaker 3: guys, it was an interesting you know I'm gonna, 1213 01:01:25,427 --> 01:01:27,677 I'll be honest like if it weren't for this podcast, I 1214 01:01:27,757 --> 01:01:29,824 probably wouldn't have revisited it. 1215 01:01:29,824 --> 01:01:34,856 It wasn't something that was on my, my radar really, you know, 1216 01:01:34,898 --> 01:01:38,490 like I've always, you know, been aware of it and kind of and 1217 01:01:38,572 --> 01:01:41,898 remembered that I had seen it before and never really had the 1218 01:01:42,018 --> 01:01:42,940 the desire to. 1219 01:01:42,940 --> 01:01:48,992 But you know it was, it was a fun revisit and you know, I did 1220 01:01:49,032 --> 01:01:49,913 have a good time. 1221 01:01:49,913 --> 01:01:53,956 But, um, yeah, man, it's uh. 1222 01:01:53,956 --> 01:01:56,036 Yeah, man, it's yeah, dude, superman. 1223 01:01:56,597 --> 01:01:58,039 Speaker 1: Superman, rich. 1224 01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:01,340 So I nitpicked a whole lot throughout this show. 1225 01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:03,141 There are things that I strongly. 1226 01:02:03,141 --> 01:02:07,925 I didn't like the exposition, I thought, but I guess maybe 1227 01:02:07,945 --> 01:02:09,505 that's how you get Marlon Brando to be in it. 1228 01:02:09,505 --> 01:02:19,751 Anyway, I didn't like some of the exposition parts, but I did 1229 01:02:19,811 --> 01:02:21,275 love the casting. 1230 01:02:21,275 --> 01:02:22,938 I thought christopher reeve's acting is unbelievable and I 1231 01:02:22,958 --> 01:02:24,059 thought that uh, licks luther is fantastic. 1232 01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:25,483 I was a otis and tess mucker. 1233 01:02:25,483 --> 01:02:29,577 I liked the, the actual environment. 1234 01:02:29,577 --> 01:02:33,606 I mean that might be new york base, uh based kind of stuff, 1235 01:02:33,728 --> 01:02:36,617 but I really did find it to be perfect in that way. 1236 01:02:36,617 --> 01:02:40,097 And yeah, I mean, it caught me by surprise. 1237 01:02:40,097 --> 01:02:41,989 I know, lois died, whoa, you know. 1238 01:02:42,030 --> 01:02:47,240 And then he and I like how I do like how he kind of calmly puts 1239 01:02:47,260 --> 01:02:50,514 her in his, in her place, and she's like you know, like you 1240 01:02:50,534 --> 01:02:51,878 could have been helping out here , you know. 1241 01:02:51,878 --> 01:02:53,615 And Jimmy's like, yeah, you just love the other side of the 1242 01:02:53,655 --> 01:03:03,413 road, and he's like, yeah, you just left me on the side of the 1243 01:03:03,432 --> 01:03:04,856 road and he's like I was taking care of some, you know. 1244 01:03:04,856 --> 01:03:06,461 And she's like, oh, like, without him having to say 1245 01:03:06,481 --> 01:03:06,661 anything. 1246 01:03:06,661 --> 01:03:08,126 She's like, all right, I, you probably were, you know, and I I 1247 01:03:08,126 --> 01:03:10,311 just think it so overall, like if this came out in you know 1248 01:03:10,331 --> 01:03:15,217 2025, I would just break it over the co, but it came out in 1978 1249 01:03:15,217 --> 01:03:21,686 and it paved the way, so I think it's historical viewing 1250 01:03:22,025 --> 01:03:22,226 right. 1251 01:03:22,226 --> 01:03:26,317 I'm not going to go out and say if you haven't seen this, you 1252 01:03:26,436 --> 01:03:30,711 need to, but if you're a fan of the superhero genre, I think 1253 01:03:30,793 --> 01:03:35,077 that this is definitely worth a watch to see where we've come 1254 01:03:35,117 --> 01:03:35,277 from. 1255 01:03:38,170 --> 01:03:39,393 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you like just to kind of like 1256 01:03:39,432 --> 01:03:44,045 piggyback on christopher reeves portrayal of superman. 1257 01:03:44,045 --> 01:03:46,731 He did do a really good job like he. 1258 01:03:46,731 --> 01:03:48,556 He was a fantastic superman. 1259 01:03:48,556 --> 01:03:51,782 He was also a really good clark kent like he. 1260 01:03:51,782 --> 01:03:55,273 Like he made it believable that there were two different people 1261 01:03:55,273 --> 01:03:57,657 like his, his portrayal, both like he. 1262 01:03:57,657 --> 01:04:02,681 Like I was actually really impressed with how well he was 1263 01:04:02,702 --> 01:04:06,246 like the nerdy guy tripping over himself in the Daily Planet. 1264 01:04:06,246 --> 01:04:10,177 But then also this guy that's catching helicopters and defying 1265 01:04:10,177 --> 01:04:14,103 gravity and extending flight control or flight powers to 1266 01:04:14,164 --> 01:04:19,715 other people extending flight control or flight powers to 1267 01:04:19,735 --> 01:04:20,014 other people. 1268 01:04:20,036 --> 01:04:21,219 Speaker 2: Of all the actors who've played a major motion 1269 01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:23,425 picture superman you know I'm christopher reeve, brandon ruth, 1270 01:04:23,425 --> 01:04:29,054 um, henry cavill and now david corn swept we've totally, 1271 01:04:29,675 --> 01:04:34,018 totally paved the way in terms of like, how to play clark kent 1272 01:04:34,059 --> 01:04:36,802 like he nailed and superman. 1273 01:04:36,802 --> 01:04:42,592 I don't know that before what, before re-watching this, I 1274 01:04:43,414 --> 01:04:47,342 honestly probably would have said he was the best clark kent, 1275 01:04:47,342 --> 01:04:51,434 but now watching, I wouldn't have said that he was the best 1276 01:04:51,474 --> 01:04:51,936 superman. 1277 01:04:51,936 --> 01:04:57,043 Now that I've re-watched this, I almost he might be the best 1278 01:04:57,083 --> 01:04:57,684 superman like. 1279 01:04:57,684 --> 01:05:01,195 He's just so, like you said, regal, like it. 1280 01:05:01,195 --> 01:05:05,202 It feels so natural for him to be superman. 1281 01:05:05,202 --> 01:05:06,751 The suit fits him so well. 1282 01:05:06,751 --> 01:05:12,360 He's not overly strong or bulky , he just takes every scene. 1283 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,844 You and I think that that's awesome. 1284 01:05:14,844 --> 01:05:16,027 Yeah, no, it's. 1285 01:05:16,809 --> 01:05:19,375 I actually really liked revisiting this movie. 1286 01:05:19,375 --> 01:05:24,088 I feel like I probably view it most positively of the three of 1287 01:05:24,168 --> 01:05:27,536 us just because I was just having such a fun time 1288 01:05:28,278 --> 01:05:29,221 throughout it and I didn't. 1289 01:05:29,221 --> 01:05:32,355 I don't have a lot of criticisms in terms of stuff 1290 01:05:32,375 --> 01:05:37,043 that I would criticize movies nowadays for, but yeah, no, I I 1291 01:05:37,103 --> 01:05:41,356 really think that this is a a fantastic movie regardless. 1292 01:05:41,356 --> 01:05:43,641 You know, it's a visually beautiful movie. 1293 01:05:43,641 --> 01:05:48,719 There's so much that you can just look at and enjoy about 1294 01:05:48,739 --> 01:05:49,141 this movie. 1295 01:05:49,141 --> 01:05:54,634 When it comes to like its actual relevance today, I think 1296 01:05:54,653 --> 01:05:55,394 it is still relevant. 1297 01:05:55,394 --> 01:06:02,505 Supposedly, apparently, kevin Feige before the start of every 1298 01:06:02,565 --> 01:06:07,661 movie he sits with the director of said movie and watches 1299 01:06:07,681 --> 01:06:07,902 Superman. 1300 01:06:08,626 --> 01:06:08,949 Speaker 1: That's cool. 1301 01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:14,061 Speaker 2: So that they can just experience it. 1302 01:06:14,061 --> 01:06:17,559 I don't know if he does that for repeat directors or what, 1303 01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:23,411 but I think it's kind of a cool concept that this is such a and 1304 01:06:23,452 --> 01:06:24,536 I don't even know if that's a true story. 1305 01:06:24,536 --> 01:06:27,934 It's something that he has claimed he's done, but people 1306 01:06:27,954 --> 01:06:28,556 claim things all the time. 1307 01:06:28,556 --> 01:06:29,954 I just think it's a. 1308 01:06:29,954 --> 01:06:33,963 It clearly is still influential if it's influencing modern 1309 01:06:33,983 --> 01:06:34,809 filmmakers today. 1310 01:06:34,809 --> 01:06:38,353 So, yeah, if you haven't seen this movie, don't knock it. 1311 01:06:38,353 --> 01:06:39,576 Definitely give it a watch. 1312 01:06:39,576 --> 01:06:42,110 It's the start of much of what we know and love today. 1313 01:06:42,692 --> 01:06:45,597 So, all that being said, thank you guys for listening to us 1314 01:06:45,637 --> 01:06:49,192 here for our 127th episode of project geekology. 1315 01:06:49,192 --> 01:06:52,878 If you want to check out any of our uh socials down in the show 1316 01:06:52,878 --> 01:06:54,880 notes, uh, please be sure to check. 1317 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:59,014 Uh, you know like see, see what we're up to on our respective 1318 01:06:59,134 --> 01:07:03,063 socials before you go, if you haven't already, please be sure 1319 01:07:03,123 --> 01:07:06,673 to give us a juicy five-star review. 1320 01:07:06,673 --> 01:07:11,467 Rich is literally like sharing a glimpse at his juicy ipa that 1321 01:07:11,507 --> 01:07:12,349 he's drinking right now. 1322 01:07:12,349 --> 01:07:18,483 So if, if we have quenched your thirst with some juicy superman 1323 01:07:18,483 --> 01:07:22,880 discussion, please feel free to return the favor and give us a 1324 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:23,983 five-star juicy review. 1325 01:07:23,983 --> 01:07:27,880 Um, yeah, I would appreciate that and I think anthony would 1326 01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:28,601 appreciate that too. 1327 01:07:28,641 --> 01:07:31,673 Speaker 3: Right, anthony yeah, yeah, I, I'd appreciate if it 1328 01:07:31,733 --> 01:07:35,820 was uh crunchy also, you know, if there was some crunchy, five 1329 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:41,777 stars ever since, ever since that that episode tales tales of 1330 01:07:41,777 --> 01:07:42,438 the underworld. 1331 01:07:42,639 --> 01:07:43,541 Speaker 2: Uh, that we we covered. 1332 01:07:43,541 --> 01:07:44,083 We have to. 1333 01:07:44,083 --> 01:07:47,878 We're going back and forth between juicy and crunchy uh for 1334 01:07:47,878 --> 01:07:51,594 our reviews, but either way, you understand as listener, um, 1335 01:07:51,894 --> 01:07:53,418 what your role is, what your job is. 1336 01:07:53,418 --> 01:07:59,478 You have a duty, sir or madam, and I think you can fulfill it. 1337 01:07:59,478 --> 01:08:03,777 So have a good day, have a good night, whatever time it is for 1338 01:08:03,856 --> 01:08:05,617 you, and we will see you next week. 1339 01:08:05,617 --> 01:08:09,561 You'll hear from us rather Goodbye y'all. 1340 01:08:10,693 --> 01:08:11,135 Speaker 1: Woolery. 1341 01:08:13,572 --> 01:08:14,094 Speaker 2: Superman.