WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.820 Fresh off the heels of last week's Superman movie, we take you back, ladies and gentlemen. 00:00:05.820 --> 00:00:14.375 Yes, yes, we can run as far as to Superman, spin this earth backwards and bring us back to 1978. 00:00:14.375 --> 00:00:21.353 This week's episode of Project Geekology, we will be covering Superman, the movie from 1978. 00:00:21.353 --> 00:00:31.844 I can't do it alone, of course, and I'm joined, as always, with Dakota, and the lovely introduction was presented by Rich. 00:00:33.106 --> 00:00:36.694 I don't believe that he, you know, told us who he was. 00:00:36.694 --> 00:00:42.453 But, rich, good to have you on the podcast, as always, and I'm always pleased to be joined with. 00:00:43.103 --> 00:00:57.210 Anthony, and you know, rich, rich, that was actually pretty good, because that was something that I was thinking in my mind too, like you know the thought of, you know, flying the podcast back and bringing the earth all the way to 1978 to cover this movie. 00:00:57.210 --> 00:01:01.246 So see, clever so you and I, you and I were thinking that that same thing. 00:01:01.286 --> 00:01:10.108 But yes, just as rich had said, we are covering superman, the movie 1978, starring christopher reeves. 00:01:10.108 --> 00:01:16.402 And yeah, man it, it had been a a good little while since I had seen that. 00:01:16.402 --> 00:01:23.891 But before we hop into superman, the movie dakota, what have you been up to, um? 00:01:24.112 --> 00:01:31.584 I I know that this is a layup because, um, I happen to be telling a funny story prior to the podcast. 00:01:31.584 --> 00:01:34.030 Anthony's like, shut up, tell it on the podcast. 00:01:34.772 --> 00:01:38.566 So you know, as far as what I've been up to this past week, not a whole lot. 00:01:38.566 --> 00:01:41.492 Um, a new avatar book, like avatar. 00:01:41.492 --> 00:01:46.001 The last airbender book came out, so I'm excited to dive into that when I get the opportunity. 00:01:46.001 --> 00:01:53.783 I did write a video script, um, which hopefully I will have out by the time that this video or this podcast is out. 00:01:53.783 --> 00:02:00.040 Um, specifically about the superman timeline uh, for the 2025 film, not for this movie. 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.343 That's pretty cool. 00:02:01.343 --> 00:02:09.989 I found some really cool easter eggs and hidden meaning um, in like that's like layered into the structure of the timeline of the movie. 00:02:09.989 --> 00:02:10.650 It's it's really. 00:02:10.650 --> 00:02:12.562 I think it's a really fascinating concept. 00:02:12.861 --> 00:02:21.724 But, um, as far as the story that anthony uh required me to tell on the podcast, I have to go back a previous week. 00:02:21.724 --> 00:02:24.991 I have to go back back to Disney World, where I was a couple weeks back. 00:02:24.991 --> 00:02:34.293 I have a or I had posted a picture online of me eating a foot-long hot dog, a massive glizzy. 00:02:34.293 --> 00:02:43.081 I have a hot dog hat, or I have a hat that says bad day to be a hot dog and I have, like the you know Cinderella's castle in the background. 00:02:43.081 --> 00:02:44.926 It's a gorgeous photo. 00:02:44.926 --> 00:02:46.912 It's you know, cinderella's castle in the background. 00:02:46.912 --> 00:02:47.633 It's a gorgeous photo. 00:02:47.633 --> 00:02:48.596 It's one of my favorites. 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.520 It's one of my best one of the highlights of my life? 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.741 Really no, but it was. 00:02:53.741 --> 00:03:01.246 The background of that is a little scary, because I was struggling to eat that hot dog, even though I knew I had to. 00:03:01.246 --> 00:03:02.067 I knew I had to. 00:03:02.067 --> 00:03:15.493 I knew at least my brother-in-law, who was with us, had been so excited to see me down another footlong hot dog from Casey's Corner, as he remembered so fondly from our first trip over Disney World together. 00:03:15.493 --> 00:03:28.923 So anyway, I in my infinite wisdom bought this hat that says Bad Day to be a hot dog, and I bought it specifically for baseball games. 00:03:28.923 --> 00:03:29.985 But it came in like a month later. 00:03:29.985 --> 00:03:34.043 So I had been to a couple games and I just, I just did not have the hat at hand. 00:03:34.043 --> 00:03:35.248 So I brought it to disney world. 00:03:35.248 --> 00:03:41.385 I thought it would be a fun opportunity to relive my glory days at casey's corner downing another footlong lizzie. 00:03:41.866 --> 00:03:47.663 But anyway, halfway through the day it was extremely hot in, you know, central Florida. 00:03:47.663 --> 00:03:53.301 We decided to leave Magic Kingdom resort, hop over to some of the resorts you know. 00:03:53.301 --> 00:04:00.109 You go to the, you get on the monorail, you go to the contemporary resort, the Polynesian, the Grand Floridian, then back to Magic Kingdom. 00:04:00.109 --> 00:04:01.391 We went to the Polynesian. 00:04:01.391 --> 00:04:04.127 We were hoping to get you know some drinks or whatever. 00:04:04.127 --> 00:04:05.230 Stay out of the heat. 00:04:05.230 --> 00:04:12.979 We ended up getting a reservation to Ohana, which is like one of the best restaurants in the Walt Disney World bubble. 00:04:13.561 --> 00:04:15.826 I thought that was small and broken, wasn't it? 00:04:15.826 --> 00:04:17.211 But still good. 00:04:17.211 --> 00:04:18.322 Say that again, wasn't Ohana? 00:04:18.322 --> 00:04:19.747 Small and broken, but still good. 00:04:20.548 --> 00:04:22.341 Oh, yeah, yeah, I see what you're doing there. 00:04:22.341 --> 00:04:26.728 Yes, cheap, cheap Lilo and Stitch joke, cut it out of the show. 00:04:26.747 --> 00:04:28.891 I'm sorry, just go back to what you were saying. 00:04:28.891 --> 00:04:29.752 I'm an asshole. 00:04:29.752 --> 00:04:32.035 I was so excited when I heard you say Ohana. 00:04:42.300 --> 00:04:42.399 Oh, no. 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:43.403 Well, I mean, it is the Polynesian resort. 00:04:43.403 --> 00:04:45.589 There is a big Stitch presence there in terms of like the merchandise and everything at the resort. 00:04:45.589 --> 00:04:46.632 But yeah, this is more like a tiki themed place. 00:04:46.632 --> 00:04:47.536 But yeah, the restaurant is called ohana. 00:04:47.536 --> 00:04:48.098 It's all you can eat. 00:04:48.098 --> 00:04:50.766 They have like the best sesame noodles ever. 00:04:50.766 --> 00:04:59.108 So I was just, you know, going hard midway through my day eating sesame noodles and then, you know, I was absolutely stuffed again. 00:04:59.108 --> 00:04:59.750 It's all you can eat. 00:04:59.750 --> 00:05:01.641 You just, you know, keep, you, keep ordering more. 00:05:01.641 --> 00:05:11.228 Anyway, we go back to the park later in the day, we enjoy the, the fireworks show, like at 9 o'clock or 10 o'clock or something like that, and then the park's open for another hour after that point. 00:05:11.228 --> 00:05:13.728 And that's when I decided all right, let's go to Casey's Corner. 00:05:13.728 --> 00:05:16.608 I've had enough time to let this settle into my system. 00:05:16.608 --> 00:05:19.547 I have enough room, guys, I did not have enough room. 00:05:26.300 --> 00:05:26.701 By the time. 00:05:26.721 --> 00:05:29.348 I was halfway through at foot long six inches deep. 00:05:29.408 --> 00:05:31.031 That sounds so wrong Anyway. 00:05:32.041 --> 00:05:35.891 I looked at Rich immediately after he said that. 00:05:35.891 --> 00:05:39.199 I looked at Rich to see what his reaction was going to be. 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:46.065 Ladies and gentlemen, a high school teacher I do not have a straight face If things like this happen in the classroom. 00:05:46.567 --> 00:05:47.209 It just happens. 00:05:47.209 --> 00:05:48.230 I can't control myself. 00:05:48.230 --> 00:05:48.872 I'm sorry. 00:05:49.740 --> 00:05:50.261 Dakota. 00:05:50.261 --> 00:05:54.370 It sounds like that hot dog made it a bad day for you. 00:05:55.271 --> 00:05:55.773 It could have. 00:05:55.773 --> 00:05:56.944 Yeah, it almost did. 00:05:56.944 --> 00:06:04.733 I was really struggling and my wife Jen, she looked over at me like this is something that we were really excited about. 00:06:04.733 --> 00:06:07.600 This was something that we were going to end our trip on Dakota's. 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.387 Going to eat another footlong hot dog with that stupid hat. 00:06:10.387 --> 00:06:11.911 We're going to take pictures, yeah. 00:06:11.911 --> 00:06:14.769 So I did end up eating it. 00:06:14.939 --> 00:06:19.572 But you know, my wife is just like, oh, if you're, you know, if you're not feeling it, you don't have to. 00:06:19.572 --> 00:06:27.538 And then my brother-in-law came in with the pep talk like dude, we didn't come all the way from New York just for you to cag out right here right now. 00:06:27.538 --> 00:06:31.571 And you know, he like started like berating me, like, dude, you got to do this. 00:06:31.571 --> 00:06:33.728 This is, you know, like this is a really important. 00:06:33.728 --> 00:06:35.346 I was like, oh God. 00:06:35.346 --> 00:06:39.862 So I just looked up, I was just like, and I ate the rest of the hot dog. 00:06:39.862 --> 00:06:42.565 And then we went on Pirates of the Caribbean. 00:06:42.565 --> 00:06:44.668 There's like a 15-foot drop. 00:06:44.668 --> 00:06:47.512 It's not like a big drop or anything, it's barely anything. 00:06:47.512 --> 00:06:48.913 But I felt it. 00:06:48.913 --> 00:06:51.235 I felt it and I was I can imagine. 00:06:51.721 --> 00:06:56.420 I'm pretty sure every step was like a sloshing just effect going on in your stomach. 00:06:56.841 --> 00:07:14.252 I was so close to making that sweet sweet water smell in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride not smell like that sweet sweet water smell in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, did not smell like that sweet sweet water smell, but anyway, I survived the food, stayed down and got 12 inches deep. 00:07:14.252 --> 00:07:15.906 Joey Chestnut would be proud. 00:07:15.906 --> 00:07:17.404 Joey Chestnut would be proud. 00:07:17.404 --> 00:07:21.488 Actually, I think that was right around the same day that they had the Nathan's. 00:07:21.488 --> 00:07:23.754 Sorry, that was my phone. 00:07:23.754 --> 00:07:26.021 I think that was the same day as the nathan hot dog thing. 00:07:26.021 --> 00:07:28.324 Guys, enough of me. 00:07:28.324 --> 00:07:29.908 Uh, I'm gonna throw it back to anthony. 00:07:29.908 --> 00:07:31.872 Uh, what have you been up? 00:07:31.932 --> 00:07:32.314 to sir. 00:07:32.314 --> 00:07:39.511 Well, so it's only been what like like two whole days since we last recorded. 00:07:39.511 --> 00:07:45.103 So I mean, since then I had finished up the convention. 00:07:45.103 --> 00:07:56.533 I'm going to be honest with you, man, after, like you know, I guess, like waking up and like kind of recording, I kind of like chilled back and I almost did not make it that third day. 00:07:56.533 --> 00:07:58.334 I just kind of wanted to like relax. 00:07:58.353 --> 00:07:59.795 I knew that was going to happen. 00:08:01.057 --> 00:08:06.360 But I did Well. 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.564 But the thing is is that I did end up going back to the convention, and I'm glad I did. 00:08:08.564 --> 00:08:09.706 I did pick up a couple things. 00:08:09.706 --> 00:08:28.180 I got a like a one piece, like little, uh, like a small, like, um, like messenger bag thing, and I got like this, um, this like final fantasy, uh, final fantasy nine a bento box and it came with with like a, an insulated bag that had like a chocobo on it. 00:08:28.180 --> 00:08:31.487 It's really really cool, um, I got, I got. 00:08:31.487 --> 00:08:32.451 I have to show you all. 00:08:32.451 --> 00:08:34.422 I'll take a picture, or actually I have pictures. 00:08:34.422 --> 00:08:36.788 I'll send it to you guys in a little bit. 00:08:36.788 --> 00:08:41.744 But then I also walked around and I happened to see dakota's uh, best friend over there. 00:08:41.744 --> 00:08:42.065 I have a. 00:08:42.065 --> 00:08:44.769 Yeah, dakota has a best friend over there I have a. 00:08:44.788 --> 00:08:48.114 yeah, dakota has a best friend, you know, you know Dakota. 00:08:48.114 --> 00:09:18.331 A little while back, dakota and I we had covered the acolyte and on his geek critique channel he had made a video about the acolyte pretty much saying, um, every time, every time the acolyte broke canon, but not really so, like you know, he's being ironic with it and dude, like hair in my mouth hated that I got interrupted by hair, um, and so you know a part. 00:09:18.331 --> 00:09:27.145 I mean you, you were calling out like a couple of people, but like one of those people they that were in that group was uh, star wars theory and he was at the. 00:09:27.145 --> 00:09:28.048 He was at the convention. 00:09:28.048 --> 00:09:30.777 I saw his, his, um lightsaber booth. 00:09:30.777 --> 00:09:31.921 I was like, oh, saber theory. 00:09:31.980 --> 00:09:37.922 I knew that that was his uh brand and I was like, okay, like I'm, and I was like wondering, I was like, oh, is he here? 00:09:37.922 --> 00:09:39.866 And like he, I didn't see him. 00:09:39.866 --> 00:09:45.451 And then all of a sudden, like he just kind of popped up and I was like, oh, crap, there, crap, there goes Dakota's boy. 00:09:45.451 --> 00:09:52.989 So you know, right then, and there, like right, when I text that, like was right, when I like noticed it, like almost immediately, I sent that message to you guys. 00:09:53.562 --> 00:10:10.347 I just imagine like you're looking at his booth You're not seeing anyone and then you like turn around and you look down the aisle and it's just like in a black cape and kind of like that Rogue One scene where the saber just unsheathes, and it's just like, oh god, here we go. 00:10:12.460 --> 00:10:14.085 Yeah, I know that I don't hate the guy. 00:10:14.085 --> 00:10:14.726 I don't hate the guy. 00:10:14.726 --> 00:10:16.664 I know you don't. 00:10:18.461 --> 00:10:25.388 I think right now the grift has taken him to places he shouldn't go. 00:10:26.010 --> 00:10:30.226 No, jedi should go, it's not his fault, and darth plagues was right there watching him. 00:10:30.226 --> 00:10:31.109 So would. 00:10:31.389 --> 00:10:34.825 Would you say that he had taken a hold of the red kryptonite? 00:10:34.825 --> 00:10:38.312 Yeah, or red kyber crystal, which? 00:10:38.312 --> 00:10:42.748 Would be like the star warriors equivalent of red kryptonite the red kyber night. 00:10:42.788 --> 00:10:44.912 Yeah, absolutely the red kyber night. 00:10:44.932 --> 00:10:46.802 I like that, uh, no. 00:10:46.802 --> 00:10:49.989 So, yeah, that was, that was interesting, uh. 00:10:49.989 --> 00:10:54.202 But yeah, no, I I I had a, I had a good time, man, I always have a good time. 00:10:54.202 --> 00:11:26.679 I, you know, met up with some friends and and hung out, I kind of I got back into, well, I I showed you that I had gotten back into, uh, magic, the gathering, and I I I sent you a picture of that, that titus card that I have oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you did yeah, so so, yeah, I have like a final fantasy 10 deck and a final fantasy 14 deck and so I had gotten some, um, like a magic deck box oh, that's right, because they had, uh, they had that final fantasy deck box. 00:11:26.701 --> 00:11:28.807 Oh that's right, because they had, uh, they had that final fantasy, yes, pack that came out. 00:11:28.807 --> 00:11:33.440 They, they brought me in, but I, I only play, I only play um a version of the game called commander. 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.910 It's like a multiplayer version of magic it's like a four player right, right, right. 00:11:37.931 --> 00:11:42.355 You can play like four or five, six players, like you could play with a bunch of people, the. 00:11:42.355 --> 00:11:48.610 But the more you add, the more time you're adding to that because, like I used to play standard, I know you like dude. 00:11:48.610 --> 00:11:51.423 You remember I used to like play magic back in the day. 00:11:51.423 --> 00:11:57.322 It's just standard got too much, it's too expensive, the rotations are terrible. 00:11:57.322 --> 00:12:03.986 But with commander you can play old cards there's yeah it's a lot friendlier and and easier in the pocket. 00:12:04.067 --> 00:12:05.475 So I was sold. 00:12:05.475 --> 00:12:10.956 And then final fantasy came out with commander decks and I was like, yeah, I'm in, especially that final fantasy 10 one. 00:12:10.956 --> 00:12:12.844 But dude, you and I we were. 00:12:12.844 --> 00:12:15.812 We were like crazy for final fantasy 10 back in the day. 00:12:15.892 --> 00:12:23.110 So, yeah, I was sold on that one they, uh, they recently announced a avatar the last airbender. 00:12:23.429 --> 00:12:31.215 Yes, uh, set, that's coming out later this year and it looks really cool because the I mean it looks cool because it's avatar. 00:12:31.215 --> 00:12:45.157 But, um, the first card that they showed uh at the of, you know, like, when they first announced it, was a drawing from uh brian konyetsuko, which is one of the two creators of the original series. 00:12:45.157 --> 00:12:53.927 So he's still doing art for avatar and he's still doing like, original art for, or he's starting to do, original art for, this magic set, which is awesome. 00:12:53.927 --> 00:13:06.091 You know, like that they're bringing in not just like their own group of artists to work on, you know, avatar, the last airbender, but they're actually bringing the original artists as well yeah, yeah, no, I I agree it's. 00:13:06.620 --> 00:13:07.982 Yeah, man, it it's. 00:13:07.982 --> 00:13:09.004 It's been a good time. 00:13:09.004 --> 00:13:13.953 But, yeah, having going to to super con, I don't know. 00:13:13.953 --> 00:13:43.350 Like I remember last year they had some sort of partnership going on with uh crunchy roll, because they had like this crunchy roll kind of section upstairs and they're the the like badges had like different anime, and then the press pass actually had like the crunchy roll um, the mascot, uh, uh, crunchy roll Hime, and so, like this year it didn't have that, it was more of like just like Miami kind of Miami vibes. 00:13:43.520 --> 00:13:58.250 The press pass one was like, uh, like one of those like you know, cuban cafe, like walk-ups that you would go to in miami, or uh, there was like a gator on one, a beach chair on another, like kind of like you know, like south florida vibes. 00:13:58.269 --> 00:13:58.951 That's what it was. 00:13:58.951 --> 00:14:18.542 So I don't know if, like, they didn't have like a I mean they have sponsors, but like I don't think like a major one like crunchyroll was or partnership, but I mean, I still, I still had a good time, man, you know, they, they there's always like really cool, like places to like hang out when you, when you don't want to walk around anymore. 00:14:18.542 --> 00:14:30.203 They had this like whole uh kind of dnd slash, like I guess piratey vibe going on in one of the ballrooms and like they had some events going on there. 00:14:30.203 --> 00:14:34.011 And another room was like one of the the. 00:14:34.011 --> 00:14:46.807 It was like a game room, so like they had a bunch of like pcs and then like consoles all the way from, like you know, back in the day, like super nintendo, all the way up to you know, ps5 and stuff, so that that's always fun. 00:14:46.866 --> 00:14:49.960 Yeah, like whenever I need to like take a break from like walking around. 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:56.500 Um, like, I'll go to like one of those rooms, or you know, if there's not like a panel that I want to go see. 00:14:56.500 --> 00:15:03.208 Oh, you, you know, uh, your girl, your girl, billy piper was there my girl yeah, your girl. 00:15:03.208 --> 00:15:06.634 Yeah, the bad wolf doctor I've. 00:15:06.975 --> 00:15:08.421 I've never met her, I thought. 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:10.947 I thought his girl was madame, what do you mean? 00:15:11.048 --> 00:15:22.437 you knew her for years, dakota my, my girl is whoever, whoever, whoever I said no, but yeah, billy piper was there. 00:15:22.678 --> 00:15:28.466 Uh, christopher eccleston was there too that's awesome yeah, so yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting. 00:15:28.466 --> 00:15:51.620 I, I feel like I would have cared a little bit more if I was a bit more invested in doctor who, like I, it's just like that that high for me with doctor who just like went away and I would say like kind of towards the end of of uh capaldi, and then after that like I just fell off completely, like I just felt like I was watching something different. 00:15:51.620 --> 00:16:03.389 But you know I digress, you know I I'm gonna move on from uh convention talk and I'm going to curveball it over to rich I'm actually. 00:16:03.931 --> 00:16:08.624 I'm actually going to make a little bridge here and then I'm going to circle it back and then we'll get it to the show. 00:16:08.624 --> 00:16:11.427 So bridge the tickets. 00:16:11.427 --> 00:16:14.610 My son and my wife are going to go to. 00:16:14.610 --> 00:16:19.145 Charlie and Lauren are going to AnimeCon here in New York. 00:16:19.145 --> 00:16:21.909 I think it's in August. 00:16:21.909 --> 00:16:26.128 The tickets just came in, so they'll actually be going. 00:16:26.128 --> 00:16:30.331 So in a couple of weeks I'll give you guys updates on their costumes. 00:16:30.331 --> 00:16:36.587 I know that they're going, as I believe, characters from Dragon Ball, but I have to double check this. 00:16:36.587 --> 00:16:40.269 He somehow convinces my wife to actually cosplay. 00:16:40.860 --> 00:16:41.484 That's cool, though. 00:16:41.585 --> 00:16:43.687 That's fun yeah so it's the one I don't go with them. 00:16:43.687 --> 00:16:46.245 So the report afterwards will be a little bit weird. 00:16:46.245 --> 00:16:48.890 I'll get, like some, some second hand from charlie. 00:16:48.890 --> 00:17:01.375 But and then, uh, to circle it back to your hot dog story, uh, and to kind of layer in a little bit of baseball, as anthony always loves, uh, tuesday is a five dollar dog night at city field. 00:17:01.375 --> 00:17:02.860 I could not believe it. 00:17:02.860 --> 00:17:06.945 Could not believe it last night, uh, we went there and there was, it was basically sold out. 00:17:06.945 --> 00:17:07.950 It was sold out. 00:17:07.950 --> 00:17:09.074 It was a nightmare. 00:17:09.596 --> 00:17:12.243 I walked in and immediately before I got to the seats, I got hot dogs. 00:17:12.243 --> 00:17:20.532 And just went to the seats because I knew, uh, by the end, by like the fifth inning, there were like 75 people deep in the food lines trying to get hot dogs. 00:17:20.532 --> 00:17:24.772 But, um, I did get four hot dogs, I did eat them without a problem. 00:17:24.772 --> 00:17:31.435 And then, uh, as we were leaving, my wife said you know, thank you, because it was just us. 00:17:31.435 --> 00:17:33.020 It was kind of like a date night, you know. 00:17:33.020 --> 00:17:34.163 She's like you know, thanks for dinner. 00:17:34.202 --> 00:17:41.588 And I was like, uh, you got two hot dogs, like that's not, I'm not, I'm not taking, you know. 00:17:41.588 --> 00:17:44.298 And she was like but I had, you know they were good and I had a good time. 00:17:44.298 --> 00:17:59.962 And I said that I felt I'm not sure if I felt shame for having somehow lowered my wife's standard so much that she was thankful to have two hot dogs in the mess game, um, or immense pride that I have I have done this. 00:17:59.962 --> 00:18:01.204 I'm not sure which one it is. 00:18:01.204 --> 00:18:07.634 It's's probably a bit of both, yeah, but I'll tell you my thoughts on this movie are not a bit of both. 00:18:07.634 --> 00:18:10.788 So maybe we want to launch into this. 00:18:11.269 --> 00:18:12.211 Let's do it, guys. 00:18:12.211 --> 00:18:14.007 20 minutes into the pod. 00:18:14.007 --> 00:18:17.450 Let's cover Superman the movie. 00:18:18.259 --> 00:18:19.665 Should we fly into it? 00:18:21.844 --> 00:18:22.567 Let's start slow. 00:18:22.567 --> 00:18:27.644 We'll just leap over tall buildings for the, for the, you know start of this. 00:18:27.644 --> 00:18:46.020 All right, folks, christopher Reeve, he's the first that really made people think that, you know, a man could fly. 00:18:46.020 --> 00:18:51.924 This isn't a joke, this isn't like I'm not laying up you, you, you both look like I'm about to say something really funny. 00:18:51.924 --> 00:18:55.621 I'm just, I'm just starting to get into the conversation of of all this. 00:18:55.621 --> 00:19:10.347 What did, what did we think of the beginning of this movie, because there's a lot of preamble before we actually even get to the man of steel uh not necessarily the movie, but you know the, the guy in the the red cape. 00:19:11.290 --> 00:19:12.354 Uh rich, we'll start with you. 00:19:12.575 --> 00:19:20.590 You seem to have the most to say about this all right, look, I have not seen this movie in a very long time. 00:19:20.590 --> 00:19:22.819 I have, I don't, I would. 00:19:22.819 --> 00:19:28.929 I'm not going to say I have like encyclopedic knowledge, but I do have a good working knowledge of most superhero movies. 00:19:28.929 --> 00:19:38.622 Uh, I have a, you know, like batman 89, although I was, uh, I think I was seven when I received that for christmas that year or something like that, or the next year. 00:19:38.622 --> 00:19:39.644 I think I got it in 90. 00:19:40.144 --> 00:19:48.201 You know, I, I watched that tape till it was, you know, I mean, just bare and could barely play anymore this one. 00:19:48.201 --> 00:19:50.484 So the what is it? 00:19:50.484 --> 00:19:56.980 45 minutes before we get to adult, uh, clark is I was not prepared for that. 00:19:56.980 --> 00:20:07.011 You know, like every minute that passed, I'm like all right, we're gonna move it along here, folks, and and okay, so I'm not even sure if I should keep going. 00:20:07.232 --> 00:20:13.529 I, I, the scenes on krypton were mind-boggling to me. 00:20:13.529 --> 00:20:28.383 So I don't understand, like richard donner, you couldn't get, I don't know, 200 freaking kids and adults of varying ages to make me feel like Krypton is a planet that is actually dying and about to explode. 00:20:28.383 --> 00:20:30.807 Instead, it's like the council people. 00:20:30.807 --> 00:20:50.186 Like they're like oh no, and it's like a bunch of old dudes and like it's like they get their just desserts right, like the council does, because they didn't listen to uh Jor-El, uh, who is a little full of himself, but you know, whatever, uh, uh, he does seem to get turned on really quickly like, hey, I just helped you guys. 00:20:50.347 --> 00:20:54.163 You know, lock up the worst three people in the history of krypton. 00:20:54.163 --> 00:20:58.652 It's like three weeks later, if you do this, you shall be bad. 00:20:58.652 --> 00:21:00.521 Like what are you what? 00:21:00.521 --> 00:21:02.967 The lack of faith in him? 00:21:02.967 --> 00:21:10.539 Like hey, look, I know they have to do a lot of backstory, they'd have to do a lot of exposition, but maybe you don't even need to make it this complicated. 00:21:10.539 --> 00:21:21.566 Maybe you don't have to make it that complicated, because I don't, it's, it is it is a lot, and it's not even just exposition for this movie. 00:21:22.248 --> 00:21:23.510 It's exposition for the sequel? 00:21:23.550 --> 00:21:24.682 yeah, because you need to have that's. 00:21:24.682 --> 00:21:31.165 It's like the only reason you have this odd scene right is so that you know they're they're front loading the zod stuff for the second movie. 00:21:31.205 --> 00:21:38.026 Yeah, now, I I do agree that while I didn't dislike it, I I actually was really intrigued by all of it. 00:21:38.026 --> 00:21:39.107 I love the. 00:21:39.107 --> 00:21:47.145 Uh, I love like the 60ies and seventies, like campy futuristic, like sci-fi world. 00:21:47.145 --> 00:21:51.867 Flash Gordon like old doctor who I love that stuff, it just. 00:21:52.529 --> 00:22:00.969 I just I like how they're like clothing, look like something out of Tron too Like, or Tron would have gotten that from this movie. 00:22:01.780 --> 00:22:03.788 I'm actually a little confused about how they did that. 00:22:03.788 --> 00:22:04.230 Like what? 00:22:04.230 --> 00:22:05.803 What kind of material was that? 00:22:05.803 --> 00:22:06.364 Where was? 00:22:06.423 --> 00:22:09.390 so shiny like it was so reflective. 00:22:09.430 --> 00:22:11.621 Yeah, it's like a foil, almost. 00:22:12.221 --> 00:22:13.304 Uh, that's crazy. 00:22:13.304 --> 00:22:29.911 Um, you, you know what effect that I like that was like kept years later was, um, when general zod ursa and non that they, when they were sent to the Phantom Zone, that same effect. 00:22:29.911 --> 00:22:46.713 They use that in later Superman stuff and they use it in Smallville, remember, when he gets sent to the Phantom Zone, and it's literally that same effect of them in in like a flat, just a flat dimensional surface. 00:22:46.713 --> 00:22:47.782 I like that. 00:22:47.782 --> 00:22:52.209 That's like just been used, like that thing has not been updated at all. 00:22:52.921 --> 00:22:58.881 Can I just say like the Phantom Zone is the hardest sound Like. 00:22:58.881 --> 00:23:14.041 It's like the most metal descriptor for like a prison ever, like the you're going to the phantom zone like it sounds cool, you know, you know like and it's also it's even worse than like a regular prison too. 00:23:14.142 --> 00:23:22.662 So, yes, like there's no escape yeah, it's, it's uh, it's a good time in there, but somehow they they do escape. 00:23:22.662 --> 00:23:35.160 Yeah, well, you know we'll have to get to that eventually, but for now this is all exposition, and there's a lot of exposition because it doesn't end there. 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:41.403 We see quite a bit of Clark flying through the cosmos, going to Earth. 00:23:41.403 --> 00:23:44.152 We get a lot of him in Smallville like a surprising amount, like more than I remembered. 00:23:44.152 --> 00:23:48.808 Again, this is a movie that I haven't seen in at least 10 to 15 years. 00:23:48.808 --> 00:23:56.441 My wife had never seen it, so that means it's got to be at least 15 years since I had seen it last, because I would have seen it with her. 00:23:56.441 --> 00:23:58.243 So that was something. 00:23:58.243 --> 00:24:05.756 So, again, a lot of this was new, new enough for me that, like, this revisit, uh was was worth doing at this time. 00:24:05.756 --> 00:24:20.132 So I'm I'm happy that we, we did it and, uh, to weigh the scales a little bit, like as far as like what richard donner did for, um, all the front loading of, you know, the backstory of superman. 00:24:20.132 --> 00:24:25.631 This is, for many people, their first introduction to superman. 00:24:25.631 --> 00:24:33.174 You know, like, in the 21st century we've had a number of, we have had like four or five shows at this point. 00:24:33.174 --> 00:24:42.453 We've had multiple cartoons, we've had multiple different uh actors play him on the big screen and we know the story. 00:24:42.453 --> 00:24:45.970 We don't need to be told the story again and that's why they don't do it in 2025. 00:24:46.079 --> 00:25:15.086 But this is the first major time that this is being shown for audiences and I have I never met my great-grandfather on my father's side, but I have a nice story from him because he went to go see this movie, basically like the scene where he catches lois falling off the daily planet building and then catches the the helicopter. 00:25:15.086 --> 00:25:24.925 My grandfather told me like he looked over and he saw my great grandfather crying, uh, and like this is the guy who you know left Star Wars the year prior and said garbage. 00:25:24.925 --> 00:25:38.336 So I don't know this man, I've never met him in my life, but knowing that this touched him in a way deep down is something that I'll always think of when I'm thinking about this movie. 00:25:38.336 --> 00:25:51.553 And I think of him and the idea of him when I think of the front loading of all this information because, like I doubt he's that he had ever picked up a comic book. 00:25:51.574 --> 00:25:52.476 You know, he, you know, lived in. 00:25:52.476 --> 00:25:59.132 He lived in puerto rico his whole life until he came to, uh, brooklyn or whatever, but yeah. 00:25:59.132 --> 00:26:02.503 So this was his first introduction to superman, so he needed all that backstory. 00:26:02.503 --> 00:26:14.286 Maybe not as much as we were shown, but I think it's kind of cool that, like, you get the entire truncated history of you know cal allen clark camp before you get to, uh, superman. 00:26:14.467 --> 00:26:22.396 I'm not sure if I was a little bit like skewed almost by watching obviously what we did last week, uh, because you know they didn't do any lot of that. 00:26:22.396 --> 00:26:25.568 And obviously I mean I'm also a guy who you know I read volume't do any lot of that. 00:26:25.568 --> 00:26:28.196 And obviously I mean I'm also a guy who, you know I read volume two of Wolverine completely. 00:26:28.196 --> 00:26:37.515 And there was a certain point where I was like if this Wolverine guy tells me what his power set is, one more gosh darn time I'm going to lose it. 00:26:37.515 --> 00:26:42.365 You know I'm like I'm Wolverine, I got you know, and he would kind of repeat it at the beginning of each comic. 00:26:42.365 --> 00:26:48.980 I guess as an avid fan, sometimes it was a little bit much and maybe that's. 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.852 I still think I'm not wrong about the Krypton part being kind of poorly written. 00:26:52.852 --> 00:27:06.664 I don't think that you get the feeling that, like, because I don't think the suffering of Krypton is truly captured and that could have just been one room with like a camera that just went sideways, which they had. 00:27:06.664 --> 00:27:07.708 They literally had this. 00:27:07.708 --> 00:27:10.597 Just get extras off the street to, you know. 00:27:10.597 --> 00:27:13.728 So it's not just like old dudes falling over, like it. 00:27:13.728 --> 00:27:18.181 I want I hate to say this, but like you need to see other children. 00:27:18.181 --> 00:27:27.662 Not I don't need to see them die on camera, but what I'm saying is like clark got an opera, sorry, kal-el got an opportunity, and does he? 00:27:27.662 --> 00:27:30.007 He also says it a little bit weird here is it just me? 00:27:30.007 --> 00:27:33.381 He doesn't say kal-el, he says kal-el. 00:27:33.381 --> 00:27:34.544 Look like I don't know. 00:27:34.743 --> 00:28:14.605 He says it kal-el yeah, yeah he says it a little bit and in a way, well, whatever, that's just me just being super picky, but I just feel like there was a way to demonstrate that like he's truly krypton's last hope, right, and but, but that there were also others that could have possibly, you know, that are that are suffering, there are other children there that will never be able to live their life out, and I think that that's a super important part of us knowing about how krypton, what happens to krypton, and that kind of loss, uh, so that that was just a little bit puzzling to me, you know, and I'm and I'm really watching it, I am trying to watch it with a. 00:28:14.625 --> 00:28:32.250 This was 1978 and there, and I'm going to say this, and, despite the fact that I'm going to trash it later on and I'm going to throw it over to anthony, but I, I still appreciate this as what I truly feel is like the grandfather of these movies, right, without Superman, we don't get. 00:28:32.250 --> 00:28:35.786 I don't think we get a Batman, you know, I don't get with, I don't get. 00:28:35.786 --> 00:28:38.082 We think we get some of the other ones that come after this. 00:28:38.082 --> 00:28:52.119 So, like it's not perfect and I'm gonna, I'm gonna trash it, but at the same time like thank you for this being a thing, because if not, I don't think we got to watch what we did last week fair enough, I'm gonna send it over to anthony. 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:57.155 How do you feel about, uh, the, the opening of this movie, or like how trippy it is, or anything? 00:28:57.155 --> 00:28:57.656 What? 00:28:57.656 --> 00:29:01.286 What is your heart deemed to to say about this? 00:29:01.747 --> 00:29:04.992 no, I, I agree that you know that this was. 00:29:04.992 --> 00:29:25.957 You know we we had and you said we had a portrayal, or we've had portrayals of Superman prior to this, but I'm going to feel like this is this Superman is like the first, like real modern take on Superman and I feel like the that beginning was needed. 00:29:25.957 --> 00:29:34.440 You know that you know a lot of people who do know about, you know, superman and him being from Krypton. 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:39.195 You know they still didn't see, you know they didn't really see stuff like that on the screen, you know. 00:29:39.195 --> 00:29:48.375 So, even if there, this was something that somebody knew, you know about Krypton being destroyed and him and Superman being sent to to earth, earth. 00:29:48.375 --> 00:29:56.221 You know it's still something that like, even as a fan, like it's, it's cool to see, right, so I don't, I don't have any issues. 00:29:56.221 --> 00:30:03.040 Uh, I give grace to, to, to them, especially with casting. 00:30:03.040 --> 00:30:05.203 I mean, that was like back in the day, dude. 00:30:05.203 --> 00:30:11.804 Like you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna really like rip them for not having enough people on Krypton. 00:30:12.509 --> 00:30:13.875 But you got Marlon Brando. 00:30:13.875 --> 00:30:18.902 You just you know, like if you had enough to pay, that's enough man. 00:30:19.772 --> 00:30:25.760 They paid Brando and Hackney If they only had, if they only had Jor-El and Lara and Kal-El. 00:30:25.760 --> 00:30:26.403 That's it, man. 00:30:26.403 --> 00:30:27.653 That's all we needed, bro. 00:30:27.653 --> 00:30:28.415 That's all we needed, bro. 00:30:28.415 --> 00:30:29.199 That's all we really needed. 00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:43.541 No, but it was cool seeing the whole Phantom Zone effect and seeing General Zod get sent away, and that pretty much being a setup for after this sequel. 00:30:43.541 --> 00:30:47.577 And I did like you said. 00:30:47.577 --> 00:30:53.981 It had been even longer than you, dakota, that I had seen this movie. 00:30:53.981 --> 00:30:58.515 I hadn't seen this movie in so long, so it was almost like watching it for the first time again. 00:30:58.515 --> 00:31:04.153 You know, like you have like maybe faint flashes, but nothing concrete to really be like. 00:31:04.153 --> 00:31:05.817 Oh yeah, I remember that, you know. 00:31:05.817 --> 00:31:07.861 So, yeah, I was. 00:31:08.280 --> 00:31:18.890 I was pleasantly surprised to see how long they stuck it out in in smallville and I didn't even remember that that like lana was in this. 00:31:18.890 --> 00:31:21.894 So I was like, oh wow, lana was in this too. 00:31:21.894 --> 00:31:25.238 So it was, it was cool, it I? 00:31:25.238 --> 00:31:28.701 I thought it was like a cool, like setup. 00:31:28.701 --> 00:31:45.917 It sure it took like a chunk of the beginning of the movie, but I feel like, for the time of what and for what came before, that it was necessary all right, all right, so we finally get to, or I guess, uh, we, we have to go back a little bit. 00:31:45.998 --> 00:32:19.915 We have an 18-year-old Clark go, you know, after Jonathan Kent dies, he gets the calling from the crystals, I guess, that are in the shed to go find a place where he can call his Fortress of Solitude, and he does, and basically he goes into this like 12 or 13 year uh retreat where he just learns about the, the wonders of the universe, which is kind of cool, I guess. 00:32:19.915 --> 00:32:23.863 Um, but I don't know why it needed to be 12 years. 00:32:23.883 --> 00:32:29.402 uh, maybe just was it 12 years yeah, I mean it seemed like it was. 00:32:29.402 --> 00:32:31.930 I think that's fairly accurate. 00:32:31.930 --> 00:32:34.616 It was a long study session. 00:32:34.616 --> 00:32:41.593 He made so many flash cards yeah, 12 years, that's interesting so that's the you know like. 00:32:41.593 --> 00:32:43.737 I mean I I did like. 00:32:43.737 --> 00:32:47.021 The journey now is he is that crystal? 00:32:47.021 --> 00:32:58.103 I'm confused because he carries a crystal with him from the barn that was, uh, you know, with his other, with his like ship uh, it's a little confusing. 00:32:58.222 --> 00:33:08.199 I don't think that that is kryptonite it's just like one of those, those like information crystals, that yeah, okay all right, because it's just weird. 00:33:08.199 --> 00:33:15.625 And then, um, you know later, obviously kryptonite's used I I do have a question about that, but we're not quite there yet. 00:33:15.684 --> 00:33:18.994 But uh, I'm a little confused yeah, I do have some questions about that as well. 00:33:18.994 --> 00:33:22.992 Uh, like some, some some leaps in judgment were made and I was hard. 00:33:22.992 --> 00:33:30.147 I was having a hard time following um but I think there's just that smart guys um no, no, I, I, yeah there. 00:33:30.147 --> 00:33:39.452 There were a couple times that they they lost me going back to that like I'm I'm thinking about it like and why he needed to be. 00:33:40.316 --> 00:33:46.090 He needed to like study for like 12 years christopher, because christopher reeve looked 12 years older than the other guy. 00:33:46.090 --> 00:33:48.792 Maybe, maybe, I don't even know. 00:33:49.314 --> 00:34:06.846 I think it's actually more symbolic because I think a lot of these movies have, you know, equated Superman with like a Messiah figure he's very often attributed with like Jesus, like being on the cross or whatever. 00:34:06.846 --> 00:34:17.436 There's a lot of vision, visionary stuff like that in both Superman Returns and man of Steel Not so much the Superman 2025, but there is a lot of the. 00:34:17.436 --> 00:34:24.559 You know, I'm sending my son to help the people of Earth like Messiah themes in this movie as well. 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.775 So I think it's interesting that they waited until he was 30 before he started actually saving lives. 00:34:29.775 --> 00:34:36.914 And if you equate that to jesus, he got baptized at 30 and that's when he began his earthly ministry. 00:34:36.914 --> 00:34:48.001 So I think that's kind of that's what I'm interpreting the the rationale for him, like for them choosing 30 to be the age that he started being Superman. 00:34:48.382 --> 00:34:50.592 I don't know, I think it's kind of a fun little parallel. 00:34:50.592 --> 00:35:02.777 Ultimately, it's just, you know, comparing and contrasting two different, you know things, but I think it's a fun little nod if that's actually what they were intending. 00:35:02.777 --> 00:35:06.219 But yeah, so he becomes Superman. 00:35:06.219 --> 00:35:19.384 He immediately goes over to the Daily Planet and he apparently is a fantastic typer. 00:35:19.384 --> 00:35:21.657 He's the fastest typer Perry White's ever seen. 00:35:21.657 --> 00:35:23.068 So he immediately gets hired on. 00:35:23.068 --> 00:35:24.512 What are we thinking about? 00:35:24.512 --> 00:35:37.382 The Daily Planet and the inter inner machinations of a late 70s newspaper how it's run I, so I, I, I buy this, um, this worked for me really well. 00:35:37.681 --> 00:35:50.661 Uh, you know, I thought, uh, the actor it was probably like one of the best sets, actually, like it was the most like lively and like energetic, like realistic corporate vibe thing. 00:35:50.661 --> 00:35:51.844 That's that's in this movie. 00:35:51.844 --> 00:35:52.143 I don't know. 00:35:52.143 --> 00:35:52.670 I thought that. 00:35:52.670 --> 00:35:57.913 I thought they did a really good job with the daily planet, you know, just show floor the the planet was great. 00:35:57.952 --> 00:35:59.077 I thought perry was great. 00:35:59.077 --> 00:36:01.041 Um, I like jimmy, uh. 00:36:01.041 --> 00:36:07.197 I like lois, uh, I don't, and I mean it's 1978, right, so I'm trying to watch this through a chime prism. 00:36:07.197 --> 00:36:15.896 But I mean, lois lane is supposed to be the best reporter on staff and man perry really gets out of her about her spelling like two times, like within the first, like 10 minutes. 00:36:15.896 --> 00:36:17.481 He's like he's like come on lane. 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:41.815 Uh, he's like you know, rapist has one p, not two, uh, which is and and I know it's meant to make him sound like a jerk, but I think it's a little bit in 2025 okay, because obviously in 1970 to had cf78, to have a female journalist be, you know, really kind of the best one on the paper and everything is, is a big deal right. 00:36:41.815 --> 00:36:47.474 So it's almost like they had to kind of juxtapose I mean not juxtapose it, but they had to undermine her a little bit, I don't know. 00:36:48.135 --> 00:36:55.835 Uh, that's the only thing, because she I don't, I don't take it that way, I just think it's comedic relief you know like she's such a good reporter. 00:36:55.835 --> 00:37:00.594 She's such a good reporter that she's not actually she's. 00:37:00.594 --> 00:37:08.884 She's doing her job, she just needs, you know, someone to edit her her work because, go ahead and have a banter I think so for me. 00:37:08.925 --> 00:37:15.753 I mean, as an english guy, right like you want to cut me deep, right like you want to, you would come at my grammar syntax or something like that. 00:37:15.753 --> 00:37:27.052 So I I guess, as somebody who aspired to be a sports journalist and cares about my writing and is very, I'm very careful through the revision process and everything that I do with my writing. 00:37:27.052 --> 00:37:29.016 When he attacked her, I felt it deep. 00:37:29.016 --> 00:37:33.690 I was like bro in front of other people, like you did that, like she's your top girl, like what are you doing? 00:37:34.012 --> 00:37:44.367 well, I think, like in the scene right before, she asked like how many t's are in this word or how many uh, so like she's conscious of the fact that she's a terrible speller. 00:37:44.367 --> 00:37:46.411 Um, even if she is a good reporter. 00:37:46.411 --> 00:37:47.492 So I got it my field. 00:37:47.492 --> 00:37:52.840 We haven't actually seen how good of a reporter she is, but, um, well, actually we do. 00:37:52.882 --> 00:38:02.601 We do kind of get uh a little bit of that I mean, she does expose the world, she unveils what she it's. 00:38:02.601 --> 00:38:12.050 I didn't know that she couldn't have known whatever right, that anything was going to come of it, because he's obviously the only one you could think of right, but just like, oh, what's the one thing that he can't see through? 00:38:12.050 --> 00:38:14.601 Lead right and it immediately gets written in. 00:38:14.601 --> 00:38:25.275 I do like they do some foreshadowing stuff where, like, even if it's like the most, like the littlest amount they could possibly do, but like pa kent's, like you know he's going to work on the car. 00:38:25.275 --> 00:38:27.018