1 00:00:00,460 --> 00:00:04,044 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode 128 of Project Geekology. 2 00:00:04,044 --> 00:00:07,809 We, here, the Fantastic Three, are going to give you all the 3 00:00:07,889 --> 00:00:11,955 news about the Fantastic Four, or Five, depending on who you 4 00:00:12,176 --> 00:00:12,336 ask. 5 00:00:12,336 --> 00:00:16,929 I am one third of your host, anthony, and joining me, as 6 00:00:17,089 --> 00:00:20,163 always, is Dakota and I love that. 7 00:00:20,202 --> 00:00:22,707 Speaker 2: The Fantastic Three Alright, yeah, and that's a 8 00:00:22,746 --> 00:00:23,347 really good point. 9 00:00:23,347 --> 00:00:25,911 Depending on who you ask, depending on how you count, 10 00:00:26,352 --> 00:00:28,695 there may be four, there may be five fantastic individuals in 11 00:00:28,714 --> 00:00:32,128 this movie, uh, maybe even more, depending on you know what you 12 00:00:32,268 --> 00:00:32,829 decide to count. 13 00:00:32,829 --> 00:00:36,323 You know, like, we'll find out in a bit, uh, but we're joined, 14 00:00:36,363 --> 00:00:38,649 us always again with rich. 15 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:40,031 Speaker 3: I'm really excited to be here. 16 00:00:40,031 --> 00:00:42,344 I'm just I don't know if we could do this podcast today, 17 00:00:42,384 --> 00:00:42,585 guys. 18 00:00:42,585 --> 00:00:45,212 The truth is, the price might be too high. 19 00:00:45,212 --> 00:00:48,088 So I don't know if you guys are going to hear a podcast after 20 00:00:48,109 --> 00:00:51,600 this, because the sacrifice that we're all making, that we're 21 00:00:51,621 --> 00:00:53,506 being asked to make, is just way too much. 22 00:00:53,847 --> 00:00:54,970 Speaker 2: Specifically by Galactus. 23 00:00:54,970 --> 00:00:57,689 Yeah, he asked for a Switch 2. 24 00:00:59,926 --> 00:01:00,709 Speaker 3: Do you know how hard that is? 25 00:01:00,709 --> 00:01:03,542 You got to get a tracker on your laptop, ignore all of your 26 00:01:03,582 --> 00:01:07,552 classes and then just wait until you can get that system. 27 00:01:07,552 --> 00:01:09,445 And then he asked for Grand Theft Auto VI. 28 00:01:09,445 --> 00:01:11,626 That's not coming out until like 2029. 29 00:01:12,248 --> 00:01:15,948 Speaker 2: If that, yeah, now Galactus asks a price way too 30 00:01:16,010 --> 00:01:16,189 high. 31 00:01:16,189 --> 00:01:19,024 But before we get into any of that, let's jump into what we've 32 00:01:19,024 --> 00:01:23,623 been up to this past couple of weeks, because we've been a 33 00:01:24,265 --> 00:01:24,766 awful week. 34 00:01:24,766 --> 00:01:27,384 If you'd like to skip to our discussion of fantastic four, 35 00:01:27,605 --> 00:01:30,170 jump to minute marker 1745. 36 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:31,980 Uh, anthony, want to start us off? 37 00:01:32,141 --> 00:01:34,587 Speaker 1: yes, I can, uh nothing too major. 38 00:01:34,587 --> 00:01:42,362 I have been messing around with the battlefield 6 beta, uh that 39 00:01:42,362 --> 00:01:46,129 that dropped, uh I was playing the the early access for that 40 00:01:46,531 --> 00:01:50,987 and then just, uh, just to kind of like I guess, touch my bait, 41 00:01:51,328 --> 00:01:52,733 the basis I don't. 42 00:01:52,733 --> 00:01:56,962 I want to, um, get a little bit more of like a concise overview 43 00:01:56,962 --> 00:02:03,109 of my time at uh, super con without I guess going, guess 44 00:02:03,269 --> 00:02:06,173 going too deep or too much time into it. 45 00:02:06,173 --> 00:02:11,106 But yes, I know, I think the last episode we recorded I 46 00:02:11,167 --> 00:02:12,673 talked a little bit more about it. 47 00:02:12,673 --> 00:02:15,741 It was kind of broken up a little bit, but I really did 48 00:02:15,782 --> 00:02:20,709 want to kind of talk a little bit more of my overall thoughts 49 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:21,850 of super con this year. 50 00:02:22,331 --> 00:02:27,680 Super con this year I felt a little bit more disappointed 51 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:29,242 than than last year. 52 00:02:29,242 --> 00:02:32,911 Last year I felt like they were really like trying to like move 53 00:02:32,911 --> 00:02:33,331 up. 54 00:02:33,331 --> 00:02:37,290 They had they had, like this I, I guess a partnership going on 55 00:02:37,330 --> 00:02:38,313 with crunchy roll. 56 00:02:38,313 --> 00:02:40,180 They had all of critical role. 57 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:44,674 They had a bunch of baldur's gate three people they there's 58 00:02:44,693 --> 00:02:46,500 just a lot of people that I felt . 59 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:48,985 I felt like there was a. 60 00:02:48,985 --> 00:02:52,992 There was a large step that was being taken last year and I 61 00:02:53,092 --> 00:02:56,888 felt like that step was like a step back this year because, 62 00:02:56,907 --> 00:02:59,881 like last year, even like their, their badges had, like you know 63 00:02:59,881 --> 00:03:03,829 , anime and Crunchyroll themed stuff, whereas this year was, I 64 00:03:03,870 --> 00:03:07,163 mean, which it's fine, because it's miami, you know, it was a 65 00:03:07,203 --> 00:03:09,367 bunch of like miami stuff, like a beach. 66 00:03:09,367 --> 00:03:13,323 One had like a beach in a beach chair, um, another was like a 67 00:03:13,342 --> 00:03:17,070 gator, another was, like you know, one of those like walk up 68 00:03:17,532 --> 00:03:20,663 cafe places that you would go to , you know, for your cuban 69 00:03:20,704 --> 00:03:23,710 coffee, but you feel it was a step down from the cultural 70 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:25,973 impact that a con should have. 71 00:03:26,294 --> 00:03:28,467 Right, it felt a little smaller too. 72 00:03:28,467 --> 00:03:30,687 It was still big but it felt a little smaller. 73 00:03:30,687 --> 00:03:35,371 I don't know if more people went this year. 74 00:03:35,371 --> 00:03:38,388 I think a lot more people went last year. 75 00:03:38,388 --> 00:03:42,360 I mean the traffic was still bad, but for some reason the 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,587 traffic just didn't seem as bad this year. 77 00:03:44,587 --> 00:03:45,542 I was like man, are there? 78 00:03:45,542 --> 00:03:48,995 There's like a lot of people, but like I, it was noticeable. 79 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:51,823 There was like to me a little bit of a noticeable difference. 80 00:03:51,823 --> 00:03:54,169 But you know, I mean I had fun. 81 00:03:54,169 --> 00:03:55,632 Yeah, I went around, I shopped. 82 00:03:55,632 --> 00:04:00,132 You know, I had like the, the offerings I I told I already had 83 00:04:00,132 --> 00:04:03,907 told you before that your, your buddy star wars theory was 84 00:04:03,948 --> 00:04:07,463 there, but overall did you have a good time oh yeah, of course I 85 00:04:07,463 --> 00:04:08,545 always have a good time. 86 00:04:09,388 --> 00:04:13,125 Uh, I just hope that that read pop really, like you know, puts 87 00:04:13,385 --> 00:04:17,218 in maybe not at the same scale as new york comic-con, but a 88 00:04:17,259 --> 00:04:20,569 little bit more, if that makes sense, I really do hope that 89 00:04:20,610 --> 00:04:22,314 they they work on that. 90 00:04:22,314 --> 00:04:26,300 Um, you know, maybe, you know, maybe there's a little fatigue 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,009 because, also because I do go almost every year, I think I 92 00:04:30,028 --> 00:04:35,567 need to find a new con to, uh, to actually, um, you know, visit 93 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:36,391 and you know, cause. 94 00:04:37,012 --> 00:04:40,521 Each con feels the same, but the offerings are different, you 95 00:04:40,562 --> 00:04:40,742 know. 96 00:04:40,742 --> 00:04:43,026 And then you know the people that were there. 97 00:04:43,026 --> 00:04:46,112 You know they had Billy Piper and Christopher Eccleston. 98 00:04:46,112 --> 00:04:48,898 10 years ago I would have cared about that, you know. 99 00:04:48,898 --> 00:04:52,247 You know they had Chris Sabat and and Eric Vale. 100 00:04:52,247 --> 00:04:55,540 They're like really, you know, they're they voice in Dragon 101 00:04:55,620 --> 00:04:59,365 Ball Z Chris Sabat, does you know All Might and and my Hero 102 00:04:59,425 --> 00:05:05,271 Academia, uh, eric Vale, uh Trunks, and then, and then he's 103 00:05:05,312 --> 00:05:06,793 also sanji from one piece. 104 00:05:06,793 --> 00:05:10,766 So I mean they had some decent people there. 105 00:05:10,846 --> 00:05:12,853 I just I feel like it was smaller. 106 00:05:12,853 --> 00:05:17,245 The scale was definitely smaller, which isn't bad to me 107 00:05:17,586 --> 00:05:20,411 if I'm going to a smaller convention, but if you're trying 108 00:05:20,411 --> 00:05:22,762 to be like the largest convention in south florida, 109 00:05:22,862 --> 00:05:24,026 don't scale back. 110 00:05:24,026 --> 00:05:26,009 I guess I don't know they had enough. 111 00:05:26,009 --> 00:05:27,252 There was enough room. 112 00:05:27,252 --> 00:05:28,694 There's a whole other side. 113 00:05:28,694 --> 00:05:33,009 Last year they were using the backside of where the will call 114 00:05:33,108 --> 00:05:33,771 area was. 115 00:05:33,771 --> 00:05:39,009 This side, that whole side was like, you know, just the will 116 00:05:39,048 --> 00:05:40,552 call, just that alone. 117 00:05:40,552 --> 00:05:44,526 So I was like it already felt smaller, like when I walked in. 118 00:05:44,526 --> 00:05:47,322 So but I mean, you know, I guess that that could be. 119 00:05:47,322 --> 00:05:50,970 You know, that's just like a gripe that might not hit too 120 00:05:51,029 --> 00:05:52,761 hard, you know, for a lot of people. 121 00:05:52,761 --> 00:05:56,488 But you know, yeah, just just my, my overall thoughts, um, 122 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:58,880 let's uh throw it over to rich. 123 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,283 What have you been up to rich? 124 00:06:00,865 --> 00:06:02,869 Speaker 3: richard, let's see, uh first. 125 00:06:02,869 --> 00:06:08,079 Uh, I just came rich related my uh, my wife and son are 126 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:11,086 actually gonna go to anime con up here in new york city on the 127 00:06:11,125 --> 00:06:15,040 24th of august, so after that show I am not going. 128 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,512 I am persona non grata in my house for not agreeing to go 129 00:06:18,552 --> 00:06:18,975 months ago. 130 00:06:18,975 --> 00:06:20,860 Fantasy football draft that day . 131 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:23,504 But I uh, I don't know he's been getting into it. 132 00:06:23,504 --> 00:06:25,447 He just came home today with a vegeta. 133 00:06:25,447 --> 00:06:28,692 He went, they went to japan village in brooklyn in the city 134 00:06:28,773 --> 00:06:30,074 and they he got a pick. 135 00:06:30,074 --> 00:06:33,548 He got a couple of dragon ball z guys that he's very excited 136 00:06:33,608 --> 00:06:34,490 about back up. 137 00:06:34,509 --> 00:06:37,446 Speaker 2: There's a japan village in brooklyn yep where 138 00:06:37,485 --> 00:06:37,848 have you been? 139 00:06:37,887 --> 00:06:40,916 Speaker 3: dakota I can ask my wife more information? 140 00:06:40,916 --> 00:06:43,103 I usually those are just like see it. 141 00:06:43,103 --> 00:06:46,482 A lot of it is the fact that the anime is like their thing, 142 00:06:46,562 --> 00:06:48,947 almost you know, sure, okay, so it's their bond. 143 00:06:48,947 --> 00:06:52,201 Yeah, and like he, I don't, I look I we just probably video 144 00:06:52,242 --> 00:06:55,730 games for you too yeah, yeah, video games and sports for for 145 00:06:55,970 --> 00:06:57,802 us, you know, um, but I'm not uh . 146 00:06:58,322 --> 00:07:00,488 And also, like you know, they'll get ramen and I. 147 00:07:00,488 --> 00:07:03,204 We just had ramen the other day , so I was like I'll peace out 148 00:07:03,264 --> 00:07:05,850 on that, but he got some cool stuff from that. 149 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:08,574 Of course, I've been to a lot of baseball and it's been 150 00:07:08,593 --> 00:07:10,625 depressing, but I won't really expand on that too much, 151 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:12,766 although I did have a huge victory. 152 00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:15,774 My mother-in-law is a huge Mets fan and she never goes to games 153 00:07:15,774 --> 00:07:18,762 ever, despite the fact that I go to 40 a year and invite her 154 00:07:18,802 --> 00:07:21,444 all the time, and I actually did invite her. 155 00:07:21,963 --> 00:07:22,564 Speaker 2: She made it to one. 156 00:07:22,584 --> 00:07:24,507 Speaker 3: She made it Nice, so she said she had a good time 157 00:07:24,607 --> 00:07:27,228 Might go again, so you never know you never know. 158 00:07:27,228 --> 00:07:30,130 And I guess the other thing is I'm kind of like Roger Ebert now 159 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:31,812 , I just go to the movies all the time. 160 00:07:31,812 --> 00:07:36,737 So since we last, since the summer right, we've done 161 00:07:36,776 --> 00:07:40,860 Superman, I obviously saw that, saw Fantastic Four, saw Jurassic 162 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:42,961 Park Rebirth, saw Jurassic Park Rebirth, and then we're going 163 00:07:42,982 --> 00:07:47,766 to go see Bad Guys this Wednesday Bad. 164 00:07:48,065 --> 00:07:51,447 Guys, a couple of good movies, really enjoying them. 165 00:07:51,447 --> 00:07:54,110 I thought Jurassic Park was what it was going to be. 166 00:07:54,110 --> 00:07:57,312 It was just cool to kind of see it overall. 167 00:07:57,312 --> 00:08:00,314 Hot conflict yeah, it was really weird to see that chick 168 00:08:00,334 --> 00:08:04,257 from the Red Room suddenly be with dinosaurs. 169 00:08:05,939 --> 00:08:07,985 Romanoff yeah, it made sense, though, because a mercenary, so 170 00:08:08,004 --> 00:08:10,951 uh, uh, which I thought was kind of she had that skill set yeah 171 00:08:11,882 --> 00:08:14,348 but that's really yeah, that's been uh, just kind of uh, you 172 00:08:14,367 --> 00:08:17,603 know summer, so I did another lord of the rings rewatch and uh 173 00:08:17,603 --> 00:08:18,586 , of course, that's about it. 174 00:08:18,586 --> 00:08:19,730 How are you deck? 175 00:08:19,730 --> 00:08:20,370 What have you been up to? 176 00:08:21,341 --> 00:08:22,002 Speaker 2: really quick, anthony . 177 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,547 You you said that you you watched the naked gun recently. 178 00:08:24,586 --> 00:08:26,850 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I was just thinking about that. 179 00:08:26,850 --> 00:08:28,975 Yeah, I, I saw the naked gun. 180 00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:32,903 I went with, um, my, my stepfather, uh, I was. 181 00:08:32,903 --> 00:08:34,427 I was pleasantly surprised. 182 00:08:34,427 --> 00:08:37,100 It was actually like really good, and it pulled it off 183 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,125 because, you know, I don't know if you saw the original with uh, 184 00:08:40,125 --> 00:08:43,312 leslie nielsen, but, like you know, it's like very kind of 185 00:08:43,412 --> 00:08:48,081 slapstick, just you know, very brunt, stupid humor. 186 00:08:48,081 --> 00:08:52,770 But I and I was like man, how how is uh Liam Neeson gonna do 187 00:08:52,791 --> 00:08:52,831 it? 188 00:08:52,890 --> 00:08:54,861 Speaker 2: I'm so used to him being the action guy, right, 189 00:08:55,202 --> 00:08:59,912 yeah and so or the very stoic guy he's never been comedy guy 190 00:08:59,951 --> 00:09:03,426 in my, my book, yeah and so he, he maintains that he is the 191 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:07,522 stoic guy but he does it like funnily, you know, like he's 192 00:09:07,642 --> 00:09:08,424 funny with it. 193 00:09:09,126 --> 00:09:11,735 Speaker 1: So, yeah, no, I was really surprised they they had 194 00:09:11,755 --> 00:09:14,003 some like running gags going on throughout the film. 195 00:09:14,003 --> 00:09:15,547 That like really was funny. 196 00:09:15,547 --> 00:09:16,809 Yeah, no, it was good. 197 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:19,423 Speaker 2: I, I had fun and and I don't know if you noticed that 198 00:09:19,423 --> 00:09:23,592 like it rated like pretty high so everyone that I see in my my 199 00:09:23,659 --> 00:09:26,561 circle on twitter, uh, I, I'm, I'm primarily in like film 200 00:09:26,581 --> 00:09:27,563 twitter section of twitter. 201 00:09:28,065 --> 00:09:30,812 They seem to have really enjoyed it because of the fact that 202 00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:33,648 you're gonna laugh at some point , you're gonna laugh a lot 203 00:09:33,847 --> 00:09:35,961 actually because there's about a , there's a joke every 20 204 00:09:36,001 --> 00:09:39,230 seconds roughly, you know like it's that, like packed with gags 205 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:42,403 , so, um, and a lot of times like they, they play off of each 206 00:09:42,403 --> 00:09:43,403 other, apparently the gags. 207 00:09:43,403 --> 00:09:45,727 So yeah, I've heard good things . 208 00:09:46,208 --> 00:09:47,912 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely it was a fun time. 209 00:09:48,452 --> 00:09:49,995 Speaker 2: Good Jumping over to me. 210 00:09:49,995 --> 00:09:54,667 I had a lot going on this past couple of weeks, but stuff that 211 00:09:54,726 --> 00:09:59,914 I've been getting into recently is I watched the Big Lebowski 212 00:09:59,955 --> 00:10:00,514 for the first time. 213 00:10:00,514 --> 00:10:03,865 That was mind blowingly funny, like that was literally the 214 00:10:03,884 --> 00:10:04,708 funniest thing I've ever seen. 215 00:10:04,708 --> 00:10:11,121 It's been a while, but yeah, it is funny. 216 00:10:11,121 --> 00:10:13,167 I I do like that talk about movies that are played straight 217 00:10:13,187 --> 00:10:14,971 but are just like so incredibly ridiculous that really I I'm 218 00:10:14,991 --> 00:10:18,706 gonna be watching it again and yeah, I'm going to iceland in 219 00:10:18,765 --> 00:10:21,852 like a week and a half or so, or no, I'm gonna be in iceland in 220 00:10:21,873 --> 00:10:25,445 a week no iceland for you no iceland for me, but there is a 221 00:10:25,524 --> 00:10:30,231 Big Lebowski themed bar in Iceland that has a bunch of 222 00:10:30,692 --> 00:10:32,495 white Russian cocktail mixes. 223 00:10:33,524 --> 00:10:35,419 So I'm so excited, I'm so excited to go. 224 00:10:35,419 --> 00:10:37,086 I was there like last year. 225 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,085 Speaker 3: I wish I would have known this, I didn't even know 226 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:41,202 Anyway. 227 00:10:41,344 --> 00:10:44,985 Speaker 2: So, big Lebowski, good time, I have introduced my 228 00:10:45,025 --> 00:10:46,028 wife to Smallville. 229 00:10:46,028 --> 00:10:49,250 So we're like seven episodes deep into season one. 230 00:10:50,724 --> 00:10:52,770 Speaker 1: Dude, I started watching that again too, man. 231 00:10:53,139 --> 00:10:54,686 Speaker 2: We got to cover Smallville season one soon. 232 00:10:54,785 --> 00:10:55,126 Speaker 1: All right. 233 00:10:55,126 --> 00:10:57,969 Well, I'm on season three now, but yeah. 234 00:10:59,181 --> 00:11:01,606 Speaker 2: Okay, would you be interested in doing Smallville 235 00:11:01,626 --> 00:11:03,009 season one for next week? 236 00:11:03,311 --> 00:11:03,971 Speaker 1: Yes, let's do it. 237 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,285 Speaker 2: Because I'm planning a Smallville day tomorrow. 238 00:11:06,306 --> 00:11:08,183 Speaker 1: We're going to just bang it out, all right, yeah, 239 00:11:08,203 --> 00:11:08,705 let's do it. 240 00:11:08,705 --> 00:11:11,083 Rich, you got to jump on it All right next week. 241 00:11:11,466 --> 00:11:11,886 Speaker 3: Smallville. 242 00:11:11,886 --> 00:11:12,769 I mean I could do it tomorrow. 243 00:11:12,769 --> 00:11:17,730 You want to do it in 12 hours, like, let's go, I'm ready. 244 00:11:18,741 --> 00:11:19,725 Speaker 2: I love that show. 245 00:11:19,725 --> 00:11:26,201 I am. 246 00:11:26,221 --> 00:11:27,831 Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk about the mystery of the mystery 247 00:11:27,831 --> 00:11:28,596 of the week. 248 00:11:28,596 --> 00:11:28,897 Well, the twin. 249 00:11:28,897 --> 00:11:29,057 Um, what? 250 00:11:29,057 --> 00:11:29,158 The? 251 00:11:29,158 --> 00:11:29,259 The? 252 00:11:29,259 --> 00:11:31,809 The, the guy who played Iceman in the first X-Men movie? 253 00:11:31,809 --> 00:11:35,315 Yeah, like his twin is in the show. 254 00:11:35,436 --> 00:11:39,470 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think like he, I think they both are. 255 00:11:39,470 --> 00:11:42,561 I think like one of them plays like Jimmy or something, and the 256 00:11:42,561 --> 00:11:45,870 other one plays like one of like the dangers of the week, 257 00:11:46,029 --> 00:11:49,259 but they were like five seasons apart, so right, something like 258 00:11:49,438 --> 00:11:53,729 something weird like that, but I'm, I'm, oh, I'm excited yeah, 259 00:11:53,769 --> 00:11:56,480 so I experienced, or, yeah, I'm introducing my wife to this 260 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:56,640 novel. 261 00:11:56,660 --> 00:11:57,965 Speaker 2: She's really excited, she's loving it. 262 00:11:57,965 --> 00:12:00,922 Um, it's just that, it's just like a one of those amazing 263 00:12:01,503 --> 00:12:05,150 times for tv, in the sense that, like you were going to get 20 264 00:12:05,211 --> 00:12:07,241 plus episodes a season easily. 265 00:12:07,241 --> 00:12:10,889 Like that was a guaranteed thing back in the days of cable 266 00:12:11,071 --> 00:12:12,113 and you'd get it once a year. 267 00:12:12,113 --> 00:12:13,985 You don't have to wait three years for the next season to 268 00:12:14,386 --> 00:12:15,330 only drop three episodes. 269 00:12:15,330 --> 00:12:17,244 You know, like it's, it's just that good. 270 00:12:17,244 --> 00:12:19,589 Um, and it was just one of those. 271 00:12:19,589 --> 00:12:24,024 It's, it's a, it's a time that's kind of nostalgic at this 272 00:12:24,024 --> 00:12:27,913 point where, like, like no cell phones in sight, you know. 273 00:12:28,982 --> 00:12:31,249 Speaker 1: It's a perfect time capsule for the time. 274 00:12:31,528 --> 00:12:32,292 Speaker 2: It really is. 275 00:12:32,399 --> 00:12:35,625 Speaker 1: When you watch it, you're like ah, yes, the early 276 00:12:35,686 --> 00:12:38,910 2000s, when we were not taken over by technology. 277 00:12:39,491 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, so that happened. 278 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,322 I also want to take a brief moment to talk about a play that 279 00:12:46,322 --> 00:12:48,163 I saw recently. 280 00:12:48,163 --> 00:12:51,986 It was the debut of a play that a friend of mine was a friend 281 00:12:52,027 --> 00:12:53,427 of mine it was. 282 00:12:53,427 --> 00:12:56,811 A part of his name is Ryder and it was. 283 00:12:56,811 --> 00:12:59,852 You know, it's a very low budget play it was. 284 00:12:59,852 --> 00:13:03,015 It was free for those in attendance, like if you can get 285 00:13:03,035 --> 00:13:03,576 a free ticket. 286 00:13:03,576 --> 00:13:08,876 It was free, but it marked the 80th anniversary of the bombing 287 00:13:08,918 --> 00:13:18,576 in Hiroshima and it was August 6th of 1945. 288 00:13:18,576 --> 00:13:22,750 That was the day that the first bomb was dropped on Japan. 289 00:13:23,259 --> 00:13:27,481 So the play itself is called the Diary of Yoko Moriwaki and it's 290 00:13:27,481 --> 00:13:32,524 a story of, it's a true story of a 13-year-old girl who was 291 00:13:32,543 --> 00:13:36,804 given a diary at school to, you know, like, just go about her 292 00:13:36,845 --> 00:13:41,063 day over the course of a couple months, and it's a couple months 293 00:13:41,063 --> 00:13:44,493 leading up to her death, basically in Hiroshima. 294 00:13:44,493 --> 00:13:50,000 So it's through her eyes, the war from home, and it's just 295 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:56,813 such a fantastic time capsule of a period that I've never even 296 00:13:56,854 --> 00:13:59,942 heard of, not that I've obviously heard of the bombing, 297 00:14:00,003 --> 00:14:05,188 but the point of view from a teenager, a 13-year-old teenager 298 00:14:05,188 --> 00:14:11,397 who is very much pro-Japan but very much of the mindset that 299 00:14:11,476 --> 00:14:15,682 everything is terrible in her homeland and how that is leading 300 00:14:15,682 --> 00:14:22,095 up to the destruction of almost 100,000 lives in a second. 301 00:14:22,095 --> 00:14:25,355 It's a really crazy story and it's a true story. 302 00:14:25,355 --> 00:14:30,225 So I was very happy to have witnessed that uh in a play form 303 00:14:30,225 --> 00:14:36,583 and I really I hope that that play gets picked up, uh for more 304 00:14:36,583 --> 00:14:37,447 showings, because it was. 305 00:14:37,527 --> 00:14:41,659 It was like again it was a free play, that uh was specifically 306 00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:44,967 for the 80th anniversary of that bombing and uh. 307 00:14:44,967 --> 00:14:47,361 But it's a story that deserves to be told and I'm really 308 00:14:47,763 --> 00:14:51,462 profoundly moved by the art of it and being able to translate 309 00:14:51,482 --> 00:14:53,528 that for a modern audience in America. 310 00:14:53,528 --> 00:14:59,250 So I may seem like I'm currently out of breath right 311 00:14:59,289 --> 00:15:02,308 now and that's because I've been dealing with a lot personally 312 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:02,710 this week. 313 00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:07,022 So just right before I went to go see that play, I was heading 314 00:15:07,081 --> 00:15:12,601 home from work and my car got sideswiped on the highway by a 315 00:15:12,642 --> 00:15:16,086 car going 100 miles an hour and it took out my driver's side 316 00:15:16,106 --> 00:15:16,327 mirror. 317 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:18,647 Speaker 1: Did it hit anything else like your door, or was it 318 00:15:18,687 --> 00:15:19,229 just the mirror? 319 00:15:19,822 --> 00:15:21,128 Speaker 2: It was just the mirror, thankfully. 320 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,004 So it should have been an easy fix. 321 00:15:22,004 --> 00:15:22,466 Went through insurance. 322 00:15:22,466 --> 00:15:23,410 My deductible was like $, just the mirror. 323 00:15:23,410 --> 00:15:23,894 Thankfully, so it was it. 324 00:15:23,894 --> 00:15:24,677 Should it should have been an easy fix. 325 00:15:24,677 --> 00:15:25,500 Uh, went through insurance. 326 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:29,931 My deductible was like 700, so that would be the amount that I 327 00:15:29,971 --> 00:15:30,711 would need to pay. 328 00:15:30,711 --> 00:15:33,585 If anything past that point my insurance would pick up. 329 00:15:33,585 --> 00:15:37,293 But, uh, yeah, so not a not a great deductible. 330 00:15:37,293 --> 00:15:41,166 But when I ended up like taking it to the place that they 331 00:15:41,206 --> 00:15:44,211 recommended, they charged me like 350 ish. 332 00:15:44,211 --> 00:15:48,865 When I picked it up it was almost exactly $700. 333 00:15:48,865 --> 00:15:51,731 Just now, like I literally just picked it up. 334 00:15:51,873 --> 00:15:52,253 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 335 00:15:52,273 --> 00:15:55,145 Speaker 2: I'm looking at I'm looking at the prices, dude, 336 00:15:55,687 --> 00:15:56,067 they. 337 00:15:56,067 --> 00:15:59,962 They dragged me through the mud and there's like app, like so 338 00:16:00,003 --> 00:16:02,148 they, they ordered the wrong part to begin with. 339 00:16:02,148 --> 00:16:05,583 They return that part, but then they hid that first part that 340 00:16:05,625 --> 00:16:06,948 they ordered in the miscellaneous. 341 00:16:06,948 --> 00:16:10,047 Like I'm looking at the prices, like of the original estimate 342 00:16:10,187 --> 00:16:12,533 and the current price that I paid. 343 00:16:12,533 --> 00:16:16,993 They definitely hid that price of the original item that they 344 00:16:17,354 --> 00:16:19,100 returned in my miscellaneous. 345 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:23,692 And then they charged me for painting of the part that they 346 00:16:23,711 --> 00:16:23,871 got. 347 00:16:23,871 --> 00:16:26,201 But the part is like a matte black, like it's it's. 348 00:16:26,201 --> 00:16:28,827 It's like black plastic, like there's no paint on it. 349 00:16:28,827 --> 00:16:30,432 Like so they, they charged me for that. 350 00:16:30,432 --> 00:16:34,350 Um, they charged me to quadruple the original price of 351 00:16:34,471 --> 00:16:35,654 the the mirror. 352 00:16:35,654 --> 00:16:39,725 It was like they absolutely scraped me across the floor. 353 00:16:39,725 --> 00:16:42,672 So I'm I'm really excited to you know, fight with them on 354 00:16:42,711 --> 00:16:45,908 that, because um yeah, that's crazy. 355 00:16:45,948 --> 00:16:46,610 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no. 356 00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:50,009 Yeah, there was some sort of scamming going on there. 357 00:16:51,001 --> 00:16:53,450 Speaker 3: For future reference, if you knock off your mirrors. 358 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:58,351 I'm quite skilled in the art of replacing side mirrors for 359 00:16:58,392 --> 00:17:04,258 people, whether they be low electronics or even high 360 00:17:04,318 --> 00:17:08,400 electronics, with heated mirrors and all the rotation and stuff. 361 00:17:09,041 --> 00:17:10,307 Speaker 2: If it happens again, give me a call. 362 00:17:10,326 --> 00:17:10,969 Speaker 3: I've done it myself. 363 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,049 Speaker 2: I'd much rather go to you and give you a few bucks 364 00:17:15,109 --> 00:17:21,384 than spend seven times the amount at a place that clearly 365 00:17:21,445 --> 00:17:26,465 they were committing insurance fraud without reaching the price 366 00:17:26,465 --> 00:17:28,951 of the insurance uh, the insurance deductible, like so 367 00:17:29,030 --> 00:17:31,904 any higher and they would have had to charge the insurance 368 00:17:31,944 --> 00:17:33,750 company and the insurance company would have fought that. 369 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:37,988 They don't expect me to fight that, but I will, um, because it 370 00:17:37,988 --> 00:17:42,722 it's clear fraud and never patron that place ever again yep 371 00:17:42,722 --> 00:17:43,885 , yep, um. 372 00:17:44,467 --> 00:17:47,834 Anyway, I'm so sorry we are rambling and we have some 373 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:51,568 fantastic stuff to talk about, like absolutely at least four, 374 00:17:52,069 --> 00:17:53,393 four fantastic things to talk about. 375 00:17:53,393 --> 00:17:57,951 Uh, maybe five gotta give anthony we actually do. 376 00:17:57,951 --> 00:17:58,913 I, I would have totally. 377 00:17:58,913 --> 00:18:01,923 I, I completely forget about herbie every single time. 378 00:18:01,923 --> 00:18:03,471 Um what are your guys? 379 00:18:03,531 --> 00:18:07,105 Speaker 3: initial thoughts on fantastic four so I thought this 380 00:18:07,105 --> 00:18:09,153 was in terms of casting. 381 00:18:09,153 --> 00:18:11,881 I, my wife, did point something out that she thought that the 382 00:18:12,662 --> 00:18:20,272 the visual difference in age between um, reed and sue threw 383 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:21,013 her off a bit. 384 00:18:21,013 --> 00:18:27,532 Like she and she didn't have a problem with Johnny or um or Ben 385 00:18:27,532 --> 00:18:29,944 Grimm when he was in his humor form, but she just felt like 386 00:18:30,125 --> 00:18:33,492 that Sue looked a lot younger than Pedro Pascal's Reed. 387 00:18:33,492 --> 00:18:38,691 And I have to, you know, I mean I tried to argue like hey, you 388 00:18:38,711 --> 00:18:41,865 know she could be older, but she , you know, gets her hair done 389 00:18:41,984 --> 00:18:44,411 so she doesn't have any grays showing, unlike Reed does. 390 00:18:44,411 --> 00:18:47,371 Or I also tried to explain that Reed kind of went gray a little 391 00:18:47,371 --> 00:18:47,792 early. 392 00:18:47,913 --> 00:18:52,306 But uh, other than that little gripe, I really I really enjoyed 393 00:18:52,306 --> 00:18:52,405 it. 394 00:18:52,405 --> 00:18:55,531 I mean I thought it was, I thought it was fun. 395 00:18:55,531 --> 00:18:59,988 I didn't like superman, it didn't really insult me by 396 00:19:00,348 --> 00:19:04,965 reintroducing every single idea to me, um, and I think the only 397 00:19:05,067 --> 00:19:08,244 thing I really have negative to say about it is that I I'm 398 00:19:08,285 --> 00:19:10,810 really upset that john malkovich wasn't in it, that he was cut 399 00:19:10,851 --> 00:19:13,848 from the movie yeah, so if you watch the trailers for the film, 400 00:19:13,848 --> 00:19:18,682 uh, you will notice that, uh, john malkovich has what seems to 401 00:19:18,682 --> 00:19:23,113 be a pretty substantial scene, like it doesn't seem like he's 402 00:19:23,133 --> 00:19:26,690 the kind of character that is just in a one-off moment, you 403 00:19:26,740 --> 00:19:27,101 know, like. 404 00:19:27,121 --> 00:19:30,409 Speaker 2: So I'm curious what the original intent of that was, 405 00:19:30,409 --> 00:19:32,501 and it's clear that they cut a lot of things out so that they 406 00:19:32,521 --> 00:19:34,967 can get the film under a two-hour uh benchmark. 407 00:19:34,967 --> 00:19:37,372 But, um, yeah, yeah it's. 408 00:19:37,372 --> 00:19:40,125 I find that that's a really interesting cut that they made. 409 00:19:40,125 --> 00:19:43,594 Uh, anthony, what are your thoughts on fantastic four? 410 00:19:43,974 --> 00:19:45,317 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good. 411 00:19:45,317 --> 00:19:49,667 It was definitely one of the better marvel movies that we've 412 00:19:49,749 --> 00:19:52,013 seen, you know, in some time. 413 00:19:52,013 --> 00:19:56,144 Um, it's the best fantastic four movie we've gotten since, 414 00:19:56,183 --> 00:19:59,790 like the first one years ago, you know, even the. 415 00:19:59,790 --> 00:20:02,604 The second one of that one was not too good, and then the one 416 00:20:02,624 --> 00:20:05,130 that we got, I think, what 2014? 417 00:20:05,130 --> 00:20:09,731 That one was just a straight travesty I actually haven't seen 418 00:20:09,731 --> 00:20:09,811 it. 419 00:20:09,852 --> 00:20:11,518 Speaker 2: I've never seen the 2014. 420 00:20:11,518 --> 00:20:12,099 Is that the one with? 421 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,625 Speaker 3: the 17 year old playing reed. 422 00:20:14,625 --> 00:20:18,070 Yes, okay, yeah, I I didn't. 423 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:18,692 I have not. 424 00:20:18,692 --> 00:20:19,753 I I didn't watch it either. 425 00:20:19,773 --> 00:20:21,844 Speaker 1: Yeah it just yeah, that one. 426 00:20:21,844 --> 00:20:26,113 It was really, really weird, but it was pretty good. 427 00:20:26,113 --> 00:20:31,532 I liked the world. 428 00:20:31,532 --> 00:20:33,707 I thought that the world was really cool. 429 00:20:33,707 --> 00:20:37,710 It gave me and I really love the aesthetic that it has. 430 00:20:37,710 --> 00:20:42,921 It's like very Fallout, you know, retro-futuristic, you know 431 00:20:42,921 --> 00:20:48,172 , like their technology is like like outdated but like more 432 00:20:48,211 --> 00:20:50,645 futuristic than us at the same time, like how does that work? 433 00:20:50,645 --> 00:20:54,900 But yeah, no, I I liked it, you know, and it's, it's cool. 434 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:55,703 I noticed that. 435 00:20:55,703 --> 00:20:57,815 Uh, well, I guess we'll go a little bit deeper, but yeah, 436 00:20:57,835 --> 00:20:58,819 this is my initial thoughts. 437 00:20:58,819 --> 00:21:00,762 But yeah, man, it was good. 438 00:21:00,762 --> 00:21:06,432 It was good, I I it, which is a hard thing to say about Marvel 439 00:21:06,452 --> 00:21:07,275 movies these days. 440 00:21:08,099 --> 00:21:10,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to like I was probably going to 441 00:21:10,844 --> 00:21:16,530 say something similar where I have been on a Marvel low end in 442 00:21:16,530 --> 00:21:18,913 terms of like, what I've enjoyed or what I've allowed 443 00:21:18,933 --> 00:21:20,756 myself to partake in. 444 00:21:20,756 --> 00:21:24,047 There's a couple of things that I just I haven't had the time 445 00:21:24,086 --> 00:21:27,222 to watch, haven't cared to watch Recently. 446 00:21:27,222 --> 00:21:29,324 I haven't watched Ironheart. 447 00:21:29,324 --> 00:21:31,210 I didn't watch Agatha all along . 448 00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:34,147 I know that there's Eyes of Wakanda. 449 00:21:34,147 --> 00:21:36,749 I probably will watch that, but I'm not in any rush. 450 00:21:36,749 --> 00:21:40,247 I still haven't watched Thunderbolts. 451 00:21:40,247 --> 00:21:46,488 I think that just came out for Disney+ or at least home video. 452 00:21:46,488 --> 00:21:50,663 So I'm I I am excited to see that one because I have heard 453 00:21:50,703 --> 00:21:51,546 that it's fantastic. 454 00:21:51,546 --> 00:21:57,967 But again, I, um, I just I'm not excited to watch it, if that 455 00:21:57,967 --> 00:21:58,367 makes sense. 456 00:21:58,367 --> 00:22:02,601 But I I knew I wanted to see fantastic four and I wanted to 457 00:22:02,641 --> 00:22:05,308 give marvel my money for finally doing something that I wanted 458 00:22:05,348 --> 00:22:08,448 to watch, and I've been asking for Fantastic Four for a long 459 00:22:08,508 --> 00:22:08,709 time. 460 00:22:09,059 --> 00:22:10,606 I've been asking for X-Men for a long time. 461 00:22:10,606 --> 00:22:14,630 Really quickly, let's just talk about X-Men. 462 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:19,039 They got the rights for 20th Century Fox in 2019. 463 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:23,151 So it's been six years since they've had the rights to that, 464 00:22:26,819 --> 00:22:27,843 six years since they they've had the rights to that. 465 00:22:27,843 --> 00:22:29,267 They are just now, like within the past month, like saying that 466 00:22:29,267 --> 00:22:33,237 they are looking for writers for these films, that they're 467 00:22:33,336 --> 00:22:36,102 potentially casting roles for the x-men films. 468 00:22:36,102 --> 00:22:39,884 I think that that's actual ip suicide. 469 00:22:39,884 --> 00:22:47,311 Like, why why would you, as Marvel, wait six years to even 470 00:22:47,531 --> 00:22:53,176 start working on potentially the biggest franchise within your 471 00:22:53,237 --> 00:22:53,696 franchise? 472 00:22:53,696 --> 00:22:56,521 You know you do not own Spider-Man, you will not own 473 00:22:56,561 --> 00:22:59,351 Spider-Man ever, if Sony has anything to say about it. 474 00:22:59,351 --> 00:23:03,648 Why would you wait so long to do anything about Fantastic Four 475 00:23:03,648 --> 00:23:05,873 and even longer to do anything about X-Men? 476 00:23:05,873 --> 00:23:08,968 If this was any other company, they would have had a movie 477 00:23:09,288 --> 00:23:09,951 within two years. 478 00:23:09,951 --> 00:23:13,488 I'm not saying that they should have rushed it, but they should 479 00:23:13,488 --> 00:23:15,681 have started working on something immediately, because 480 00:23:15,942 --> 00:23:20,001 currently they are floundering In the box office. 481 00:23:20,103 --> 00:23:23,163 Like Fantastic Four is a fantastic movie, I really 482 00:23:23,222 --> 00:23:23,585 enjoyed it. 483 00:23:23,585 --> 00:23:28,461 Like fantastic four is a fantastic movie, I really 484 00:23:28,481 --> 00:23:28,722 enjoyed it. 485 00:23:28,722 --> 00:23:29,924 It's again, it's not perfect, but I I do think it is worth 486 00:23:29,944 --> 00:23:32,068 more than the global cume has, you know, collected at this 487 00:23:32,128 --> 00:23:32,309 point. 488 00:23:32,309 --> 00:23:36,262 So it's it's interesting to know that. 489 00:23:36,262 --> 00:23:39,910 Uh, you know, like we are currently seeing a very, very 490 00:23:40,150 --> 00:23:46,469 low, like almost like phase one numbers for movies, um, for 491 00:23:46,509 --> 00:23:47,371 marvel and that's that's. 492 00:23:47,371 --> 00:23:50,027 That's bizarre to me, because they were such heavy hitters for 493 00:23:50,027 --> 00:23:50,569 so many years. 494 00:23:50,569 --> 00:23:54,262 You had films like black panther, captain marvel, a 495 00:23:54,343 --> 00:23:57,470 number of captain america films that were all breaking uh, a 496 00:23:57,530 --> 00:23:58,861 billion dollars at the box office. 497 00:23:58,861 --> 00:24:01,244 And it was easy, but it was easy money. 498 00:24:01,625 --> 00:24:02,989 Speaker 3: I I think part of it is. 499 00:24:02,989 --> 00:24:06,039 I think that they're releasing on Disney Plus too quickly, Like 500 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,028 look how fast Thunderbolts is already there. 501 00:24:08,028 --> 00:24:10,726 It could be that. 502 00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:14,988 It could be that If it's not something that you feel like you 503 00:24:14,988 --> 00:24:18,700 care if you get spoiled, right, if you're not into that, like 504 00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:19,221 right now. 505 00:24:19,221 --> 00:24:21,690 Like you, you're a perfect example, dakota. 506 00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:23,066 You've kind of fallen out. 507 00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:25,324 You don't watch a lot of the stuff, right. 508 00:24:25,324 --> 00:24:29,111 So now so much comes out that you can just kind of comfortably 509 00:24:29,111 --> 00:24:33,704 wait, and it's on disney plus, so correct, I mean, and you're a 510 00:24:33,704 --> 00:24:34,967 moviegoer, right. 511 00:24:34,967 --> 00:24:39,682 So like I, I am since the pandemic, like I love the 512 00:24:39,721 --> 00:24:42,528 streaming option, like I kind of liked when some of the stuff 513 00:24:42,568 --> 00:24:46,020 came out and it came out the same day on disney than it did 514 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,008 in the theaters, right, that was fun, that was a fun time, you 515 00:24:49,048 --> 00:24:56,010 know, and I think that spoiled a lot of comic book fans and I 516 00:24:56,090 --> 00:25:00,780 think now it's like, well, this stuff is not that great, I can 517 00:25:00,820 --> 00:25:05,627 just wait yeah, I was gonna say we, you can't put off the fact 518 00:25:05,647 --> 00:25:09,553 that like the quality has gone down and even then, like you 519 00:25:09,613 --> 00:25:11,816 know, you know so. 520 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:16,210 Speaker 1: So, like I did end up seeing Thunderbolts. 521 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:19,185 Well, I would say that Thunderbolts is definitely one 522 00:25:19,205 --> 00:25:23,705 of their better movies that they've come out with and, like 523 00:25:23,766 --> 00:25:28,726 the more recent years, it still is missing that quality that we 524 00:25:28,846 --> 00:25:32,416 used to have with marvel movies, like there was definitely some 525 00:25:32,457 --> 00:25:34,683 qa that was going on back in the day. 526 00:25:34,683 --> 00:25:39,519 That is just gone now and you know it's like they're and it's 527 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:43,009 not even like and it's the crazy thing is is like they're not 528 00:25:43,089 --> 00:25:46,420 even like taking, it's not even like risk taking. 529 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:50,530 You know they're like playing, it's like trying to play it safe 530 00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:53,759 , but like it's not even like quality. 531 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:55,423 You know it's. 532 00:25:55,423 --> 00:25:57,067 You're, you're getting like a knockoff. 533 00:25:57,067 --> 00:26:00,041 You know you're getting like a knockoff movie rather than, like 534 00:26:00,041 --> 00:26:01,423 you know, an mcu movie. 535 00:26:01,423 --> 00:26:04,949 You know it's, know, and I'm going to throw it to you, dakota 536 00:26:04,949 --> 00:26:09,621 , you know, because you're repping Superman today, would 537 00:26:09,701 --> 00:26:15,948 you say that the MCU movies of today do they match up or do 538 00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:24,336 they hold up to the Superman the movie 1975, gold standard 1978. 539 00:26:25,157 --> 00:26:26,700 Speaker 2: Oh 1978. 540 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:30,479 Yeah, the gold standard, uh, 1978, oh 1978. 541 00:26:30,479 --> 00:26:30,757 Yeah, uh, the gold standard. 542 00:26:30,757 --> 00:26:31,961 The reason anthony says that is because on our zoom call I have 543 00:26:31,961 --> 00:26:32,093 a superman. 544 00:26:32,048 --> 00:26:33,204 The movie background currently from our previous episode. 545 00:26:33,204 --> 00:26:37,071 I just I haven't changed it um, anthony has a wonderfully um 546 00:26:37,432 --> 00:26:40,366 appropriate fantastic four background for this episode and 547 00:26:40,428 --> 00:26:42,458 rich has a wonderfully appropriate battle star 548 00:26:42,478 --> 00:26:43,281 galactica um uh background. 549 00:26:43,281 --> 00:26:44,727 No, we call it battle, it's actually just the death star 550 00:26:44,747 --> 00:26:44,928 behind it. 551 00:26:44,928 --> 00:26:46,836 Yeah, and Rich has a wonderfully appropriate 552 00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:47,518 Battlestar Galactica background. 553 00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:50,102 We call it Battle, it's actually just the Death Star 554 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:51,022 behind it. 555 00:26:51,022 --> 00:26:55,788 So, anyway, your question is do they hold up to the standard of 556 00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:59,554 the original Superman or are you being facetious? 557 00:27:00,034 --> 00:27:01,316 Speaker 1: No, well, I was kind of joking. 558 00:27:01,316 --> 00:27:08,203 But I remember what you said that Feige was saying about 559 00:27:08,223 --> 00:27:09,125 Superman. 560 00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:11,148 And then when Superman came out he was like oh well, it's not 561 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:13,713 superhero fatigue, because people went out to go see that. 562 00:27:13,713 --> 00:27:16,683 And then you said that he would go and show people this movie 563 00:27:16,703 --> 00:27:19,308 Superman, the movie from 1978, to show them what quality is 564 00:27:19,328 --> 00:27:21,112 Right from 1978. 565 00:27:21,112 --> 00:27:23,656 To like show them what quality is. 566 00:27:24,278 --> 00:27:27,586 Speaker 2: Right, okay, so let's uh, let's back up just a hair, 567 00:27:27,827 --> 00:27:30,307 uh, so I can explain what I'm what I said. 568 00:27:30,307 --> 00:27:35,085 Uh, so according to a couple sources, including the, the 569 00:27:35,164 --> 00:27:40,301 novel, uh, the reign of Marvel studios, um, which is a book 570 00:27:40,321 --> 00:27:42,701 that came out a couple of years ago, which is a fantastic read, 571 00:27:42,821 --> 00:27:46,630 I I highly recommend the reign of marvel studios to any fan of 572 00:27:46,990 --> 00:27:47,872 just movies in general. 573 00:27:47,872 --> 00:27:51,003 You don't even have to have watched marvel studios films to 574 00:27:51,044 --> 00:27:54,291 enjoy it, because it's a history of the studio coming into its 575 00:27:54,311 --> 00:27:54,492 shape. 576 00:27:54,492 --> 00:27:58,752 But apparently in that book, uh , and and other interviews, 577 00:27:59,273 --> 00:28:02,443 feige has mentioned that he takes people to watch, uh, 578 00:28:02,585 --> 00:28:06,618 specifically directors when, when they get cast to join the 579 00:28:06,739 --> 00:28:11,548 MCU for a role or whatever, he brings those directors to watch 580 00:28:11,619 --> 00:28:17,818 the original Superman movie, and that is basically his gold 581 00:28:17,858 --> 00:28:21,128 standard for the dawn of superheroes and not to be 582 00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:23,483 encumbered by the weight of Marvel Studios. 583 00:28:23,483 --> 00:28:26,246 I guess, because that's something that the original 584 00:28:26,286 --> 00:28:30,366 Superman movie does it's not weighted down by what we expect 585 00:28:30,406 --> 00:28:32,886 from a superhero movie, and that's what's so freeing about 586 00:28:32,946 --> 00:28:32,987 it. 587 00:28:32,987 --> 00:28:37,931 But I cannot say that that ever happens in a Marvel movie past 588 00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:38,532 Phase 1. 589 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:42,670 Every Marvel movie, with the exception of Guardians of the 590 00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:45,608 Galaxy, has felt very much like a Marvel movie. 591 00:28:45,608 --> 00:28:50,145 It's just part of the DNA, it's part of the production process, 592 00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:54,443 it's part of the factory system that they have going on with 593 00:28:54,483 --> 00:28:54,885 Marvel Studios. 594 00:28:54,885 --> 00:29:01,272 So as far as whether these movies have that original sheen 595 00:29:01,861 --> 00:29:04,948 that is the gold standard of what Superman produced, produced 596 00:29:04,948 --> 00:29:09,083 in 78 I would say, you know, in many cases they're better 597 00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:09,384 movies. 598 00:29:09,384 --> 00:29:12,590 Some, some of them, are much better, but they don't have that 599 00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:14,964 , uh, that vibe of the original one. 600 00:29:14,964 --> 00:29:18,798 And as far as like marvel today versus marvel on the like phase 601 00:29:18,798 --> 00:29:22,846 one, phase two eras, they have nailed down a formula that they 602 00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:24,009 try to encompass with every movie. 603 00:29:24,009 --> 00:29:33,413 It's a three-act phase of each film that leads towards a bigger 604 00:29:33,413 --> 00:29:36,967 picture, and that is the case for pretty much every single 605 00:29:36,987 --> 00:29:38,571 Marvel movie that has ever been made. 606 00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:44,509 But I think the original Phase 1 films have a certain level of 607 00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:49,224 uniqueness because they didn't have a boiled down formula at 608 00:29:49,244 --> 00:29:49,645 that point. 609 00:29:49,645 --> 00:29:51,009 So there there is some. 610 00:29:51,009 --> 00:29:51,770 There's a big difference. 611 00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:54,204 You know and you can even feel that formula in fantastic four. 612 00:29:54,204 --> 00:29:56,811 You know there's a lot of cut stuff from it, but you can you 613 00:29:56,859 --> 00:30:00,868 can totally 100 if you did not know that this was a marvel 614 00:30:00,888 --> 00:30:03,662 movie and you watched this movie but you'd seen other marvel 615 00:30:03,682 --> 00:30:06,087 movies in the past, you would be like, oh, this kind of reminded 616 00:30:06,087 --> 00:30:09,301 me of some of the other marvel movies that I've I've seen, but 617 00:30:09,962 --> 00:30:13,451 in a unique way, and I don't want to denigrate uh, fantastic 618 00:30:13,471 --> 00:30:16,365 four, it's just, it is formulaic , like that's, that's just part 619 00:30:16,424 --> 00:30:17,909 of the the baked in structure. 620 00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:20,721 You know you're gonna, if you're gonna bake cookies, you 621 00:30:20,761 --> 00:30:21,804 have to go a certain route. 622 00:30:21,804 --> 00:30:23,866 You know you have to crack the eggs at a certain point, you 623 00:30:23,906 --> 00:30:25,189 have to add the sugar at a certain point. 624 00:30:25,189 --> 00:30:28,534 It's just part of the the process for marvel yeah, you 625 00:30:28,554 --> 00:30:31,144 know um I do but go ahead. 626 00:30:31,285 --> 00:30:33,009 Speaker 3: I do think that another part of the problem that 627 00:30:33,009 --> 00:30:37,404 we don't talk about a lot is the next generation is not 628 00:30:37,746 --> 00:30:38,748 reading comic books. 629 00:30:38,748 --> 00:30:42,113 Sure, right, like they're not into soup. 630 00:30:42,113 --> 00:30:46,787 Like when the when phase one came out and I'm I'm a years 631 00:30:46,867 --> 00:30:50,842 older than you guys, but it was like, oh my goodness, this right 632 00:30:50,842 --> 00:30:52,228 , because we never got that. 633 00:30:52,228 --> 00:30:55,467 Like, we had sure we had Superman, and then I was gone 634 00:30:55,507 --> 00:30:58,292 and we had, you know, we had Michael Keaton, batman for a 635 00:30:58,313 --> 00:31:01,729 little bit, right, but we didn't have great Marvel showings like 636 00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:01,950 this. 637 00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:04,467 So I just think that, like it caught the. 638 00:31:04,467 --> 00:31:07,503 I think it caught the right generation at the right time, 639 00:31:08,125 --> 00:31:13,122 right, I'm 43 and I would say that very few of my friends 640 00:31:13,382 --> 00:31:16,609 outside of you guys that are my age are getting excited about 641 00:31:17,131 --> 00:31:17,491 the stuff. 642 00:31:17,491 --> 00:31:20,465 They're it's and it's almost like it's too much, so they feel 643 00:31:20,465 --> 00:31:20,988 behind. 644 00:31:20,988 --> 00:31:23,442 Like I have friends who love this stuff, but they're like 645 00:31:23,482 --> 00:31:26,871 it's like homework and I'm I'm behind, I'm a semester behind 646 00:31:27,071 --> 00:31:28,796 you know you mentioned something . 647 00:31:29,218 --> 00:31:31,583 Speaker 2: Uh, you mentioned that there was a certain level, 648 00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:34,328 a certain level of specialness. 649 00:31:34,328 --> 00:31:36,840 When they first came out, this was something that hadn't 650 00:31:36,861 --> 00:31:37,422 happened before. 651 00:31:37,422 --> 00:31:40,770 Oh man, this guy, this, this producer, he's saying that this 652 00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:42,221 is all going to lead to the avengers. 653 00:31:42,221 --> 00:31:46,112 So wait, thor is going to team up with Captain America and Iron 654 00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,045 man and maybe even the Hulk. 655 00:31:48,045 --> 00:31:51,948 Wow, and they're more recognizable too. 656 00:31:51,948 --> 00:31:55,829 There's nothing special about going to see a Marvel movie 657 00:31:56,069 --> 00:31:57,904 these days besides the big team-ups. 658 00:31:57,904 --> 00:31:59,470 Obviously those are special. 659 00:32:00,663 --> 00:32:03,003 Or the finales of certain things Like Guardians of the Galaxy 3, 660 00:32:03,003 --> 00:32:04,229 that was a very special movie. 661 00:32:04,229 --> 00:32:05,863 It was a fantastic story. 662 00:32:05,863 --> 00:32:09,551 It was just well crafted and it was the end of something, and 663 00:32:09,592 --> 00:32:12,184 it's something that we don't experience a lot of in the mcu, 664 00:32:12,746 --> 00:32:13,528 and ends are good. 665 00:32:13,528 --> 00:32:16,702 When it comes to narratives, you know like you need solid 666 00:32:16,823 --> 00:32:21,231 endings to things for you to have resolution, and if that 667 00:32:21,352 --> 00:32:25,548 ending never comes, you will just drift away from the story 668 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:28,630 over time, and I think that's what a lot of people are 669 00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:29,615 experiencing currently. 670 00:32:29,615 --> 00:32:32,323 And there's this I can keep going with with the mc we need 671 00:32:32,364 --> 00:32:33,546 some competition, man. 672 00:32:33,707 --> 00:32:38,263 Speaker 1: We need honestly, we need to dc you like, we need 673 00:32:38,304 --> 00:32:39,185 those movies to like. 674 00:32:39,185 --> 00:32:42,252 Keep on kicking it, bro, like we need a great job with 675 00:32:42,682 --> 00:32:43,266 superman. 676 00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:44,332 You know that was good. 677 00:32:44,332 --> 00:32:47,063 You know, hopefully, supergirl solid. 678 00:32:47,063 --> 00:32:49,087 You know, I know that they're working on some. 679 00:32:49,087 --> 00:32:53,085 You know castings for other, for other characters, but you 680 00:32:53,125 --> 00:32:57,573 know, I I feel like, I feel that we can, we can trust that that 681 00:32:57,594 --> 00:32:59,865 sean gunn's gonna do some, some solid stuff. 682 00:32:59,865 --> 00:33:02,751 Man, you know, I thought his version, his iteration of the 683 00:33:02,819 --> 00:33:06,426 suicide squad was pretty good and yeah, man, superman. 684 00:33:06,886 --> 00:33:09,652 Speaker 2: So so yeah, and if you, if you guys have seen the 685 00:33:09,913 --> 00:33:13,727 uh, the set photos that are coming out of the spider-man uh 686 00:33:13,846 --> 00:33:17,961 brand, uh, brand new day uh film that are coming out. 687 00:33:17,961 --> 00:33:20,771 If you look online and look up spider-man photos, it looks 688 00:33:20,811 --> 00:33:21,835 phenomenal, like they. 689 00:33:21,835 --> 00:33:24,942 That actually looks like it's going to be a really really good 690 00:33:24,942 --> 00:33:26,499 spider-man movie because they're filming everything 691 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:27,022 practically. 692 00:33:27,022 --> 00:33:29,413 They're filming the swinging through the the city, 693 00:33:29,614 --> 00:33:30,194 practically. 694 00:33:30,194 --> 00:33:31,617 It looks amazing. 695 00:33:31,617 --> 00:33:35,673 And, um, it actually looks like the actor is swinging from a 696 00:33:35,733 --> 00:33:35,933 web. 697 00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:37,298 It's actually really, really cool. 698 00:33:37,298 --> 00:33:41,530 So I I'm not over marvel, I'm just having a low period and I I 699 00:33:41,530 --> 00:33:44,659 do plan to get back into it and I'm excited to see thunderbolts 700 00:33:44,659 --> 00:33:44,659 . 701 00:33:44,659 --> 00:33:49,076 And getting back to the topic at hand, I really did enjoy my 702 00:33:49,135 --> 00:33:50,419 time with fantastic four. 703 00:33:50,419 --> 00:33:54,092 I was reticent to see it because of my malaise currently, 704 00:33:54,092 --> 00:33:56,055 but I was. 705 00:33:56,055 --> 00:33:58,619 I I immediately like, re-watched it. 706 00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:00,122 I I went to go see it a second time. 707 00:34:00,122 --> 00:34:04,512 It was just something that really felt new for me, even 708 00:34:04,594 --> 00:34:05,678 though there was that formula. 709 00:34:05,789 --> 00:34:06,794 Speaker 1: Wait a second. 710 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:08,994 You said you went to go see it a second time because of the 711 00:34:09,074 --> 00:34:09,916 Avatar trailer. 712 00:34:10,418 --> 00:34:13,938 Speaker 2: Okay, we've got to take a step back. 713 00:34:13,938 --> 00:34:17,456 I did actually. 714 00:34:17,456 --> 00:34:22,858 That was something that I was deeply, deeply excited to visit 715 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:23,840 and then revisit. 716 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,077 You know, like, let's talk about that Avatar trailer. 717 00:34:26,077 --> 00:34:28,115 I know, rich, you haven't even seen the movies, right? 718 00:34:28,778 --> 00:34:28,918 Speaker 3: No. 719 00:34:28,918 --> 00:34:34,818 I know, I have like a rough idea that, like you know, 720 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,684 scientists were able to basically like inhabit someone 721 00:34:37,724 --> 00:34:41,992 of, like go into the world um and interact with, and there's 722 00:34:42,012 --> 00:34:42,994 like a war. 723 00:34:43,054 --> 00:34:43,757 Speaker 2: Alien life form. 724 00:34:43,757 --> 00:34:46,449 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know like the general strokes, the broad 725 00:34:46,469 --> 00:34:50,579 stroke okay, um, it's, it's james cameron's, like it's his, 726 00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:52,452 it's his star wars you know it's his baby it's. 727 00:34:52,532 --> 00:34:54,199 It's the project that he's wanted to work on since the 728 00:34:54,601 --> 00:34:58,597 early 90s and he's finally capable of doing it because uh, 729 00:34:58,757 --> 00:35:01,726 cgi has made its way and he, he, you know. 730 00:35:01,726 --> 00:35:05,938 But anyway, so the the trailer for, or the teaser rather for, 731 00:35:06,661 --> 00:35:10,329 uh, fire and ash, the third avatar film, has uh dropped and 732 00:35:10,411 --> 00:35:15,119 it's just mind-blowing visuals, like it's just there's gonna be 733 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:16,322 so much in that movie. 734 00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:17,411 That is just. 735 00:35:17,411 --> 00:35:21,041 I'm so excited about um and this is the wrong podcast to 736 00:35:21,061 --> 00:35:25,498 like gush about it, but I did really think it was cool and, uh 737 00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:26,782 , apparently they did this everywhere. 738 00:35:26,782 --> 00:35:30,119 You watched all the trailers leading up to the movie. 739 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:33,753 Then they show the ads for the cinema or whatever it is, then 740 00:35:33,773 --> 00:35:36,987 the lights turn off and then they show you the avatar trailer 741 00:35:36,987 --> 00:35:38,893 as if, like, you're starting the movie, so it's actually 742 00:35:38,954 --> 00:35:43,331 attached to the picture and I think that that's just. 743 00:35:43,331 --> 00:35:46,438 It was brilliant and it made that trailer feel like it was 744 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:50,195 part of the ticket price and that was cool. 745 00:35:50,195 --> 00:35:51,039 That was really cool. 746 00:35:51,913 --> 00:35:52,996 But let's take it back. 747 00:35:52,996 --> 00:35:55,356 Let's continue to talk about Fantastic Four. 748 00:35:55,356 --> 00:36:01,789 We keep getting sidetracked four. 749 00:36:01,789 --> 00:36:03,155 We keep getting sidetracked and there's so much that um is 750 00:36:03,175 --> 00:36:04,481 bottled up in the world of fantastic four and, like the, 751 00:36:04,501 --> 00:36:05,967 the behind the scenes of the movie, that it's so easy to get 752 00:36:05,987 --> 00:36:08,938 uh derailed by the discussion of culture as a whole. 753 00:36:08,938 --> 00:36:13,050 But, um, I think the movie does deserve to be spoken about, you 754 00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:18,641 know, just as is, because I really liked uh universe 8, like 755 00:36:18,641 --> 00:36:20,545 I thought that was just gorgeous. 756 00:36:20,545 --> 00:36:22,603 Was it 828 or was it 818? 757 00:36:22,623 --> 00:36:23,429 Speaker 1: No, it was 828. 758 00:36:24,672 --> 00:36:28,740 Speaker 3: Because Kirby's birthday is like 828 something. 759 00:36:29,101 --> 00:36:29,643 Speaker 2: That's correct. 760 00:36:29,643 --> 00:36:31,257 Yes, they showed that at the end. 761 00:36:31,257 --> 00:36:34,438 I wasn't sure because I know that in Doctor Strange 762 00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:38,364 Multiverse of Madness we go to Earth 818. 763 00:36:38,385 --> 00:36:39,309 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. 764 00:36:39,610 --> 00:36:41,070 Speaker 2: So I might have got those confused, but yeah, all 765 00:36:41,090 --> 00:36:41,190 right. 766 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:43,215 828 um, let's talk about that. 767 00:36:43,215 --> 00:36:47,512 Just because it was such a unique setting, um, it was far 768 00:36:47,572 --> 00:36:49,942 different from anything that we had seen in marvel before. 769 00:36:49,942 --> 00:36:54,893 It almost has like a post-modern, uh sci-fi look. 770 00:36:54,893 --> 00:36:55,775 You know like it's. 771 00:36:55,775 --> 00:37:00,101 It's something that you would expect from like before the 772 00:37:00,141 --> 00:37:00,503 bombs. 773 00:37:00,923 --> 00:37:05,416 Yeah, something like that, or like original concept art for, 774 00:37:05,876 --> 00:37:09,021 like, in Disney World or Disneyland, the Tomorrowland 775 00:37:09,463 --> 00:37:10,625 section of Disney World. 776 00:37:10,625 --> 00:37:13,177 You know like it's that this is what the future is going to 777 00:37:13,217 --> 00:37:13,579 look like. 778 00:37:13,579 --> 00:37:14,795 It's going to be rockets everywhere. 779 00:37:14,795 --> 00:37:15,869 There's going to be flying cars . 780 00:37:15,869 --> 00:37:19,974 There's going to be towers that are just random shapes when are 781 00:37:19,974 --> 00:37:20,360 they? 782 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,865 Where are they? 783 00:37:20,865 --> 00:37:21,309 Where are they? 784 00:37:21,309 --> 00:37:25,277 There's going to be robots uh, you know like, serving us food 785 00:37:25,317 --> 00:37:28,483 in our 60s styled, uh, abodes. 786 00:37:28,483 --> 00:37:29,443 It's. 787 00:37:29,443 --> 00:37:31,797 It's just a really. 788 00:37:32,438 --> 00:37:35,047 You know, like, when marvel decides to bring all these 789 00:37:35,128 --> 00:37:37,893 universes together, when they bring, like, eventually, these 790 00:37:37,932 --> 00:37:40,838 characters are going to make their way into 616 or whatever. 791 00:37:40,838 --> 00:37:42,721 I think that they're. 792 00:37:42,721 --> 00:37:45,164 No, I don't think I know that they're not going to do this, 793 00:37:45,309 --> 00:37:47,237 but because and I and I think that that's ridiculous that 794 00:37:47,257 --> 00:37:50,219 they're not going to do this but they absolutely should take 795 00:37:50,259 --> 00:37:52,889 advantage of this opportunity to bring the entire marvel 796 00:37:52,949 --> 00:37:57,735 universe into 818, 828, like I think that that is such a world 797 00:37:58,054 --> 00:37:59,135 rife with opportunity. 798 00:37:59,135 --> 00:38:04,402 I think that whole setting change is perfect for throwing 799 00:38:04,461 --> 00:38:07,164 in the X-Men when they finally get into the picture. 800 00:38:07,164 --> 00:38:09,586 You know, because it's still 60s-ish. 801 00:38:09,586 --> 00:38:13,195 You know like they have a lot that they can work with in this 802 00:38:13,255 --> 00:38:16,041 world and I feel like they're barely tapping the surface and, 803 00:38:16,922 --> 00:38:21,952 yeah, I think that's really cool , the surface, and I'm yeah, I 804 00:38:21,972 --> 00:38:22,572 think that's really cool. 805 00:38:22,592 --> 00:38:23,856 Um, so let's talk about the actual fantastic five. 806 00:38:23,856 --> 00:38:24,056 Like what? 807 00:38:24,056 --> 00:38:24,938 What are, uh, our thoughts on? 808 00:38:24,938 --> 00:38:25,097 So rich? 809 00:38:25,097 --> 00:38:28,992 You mentioned that, um, uh, your wife had an issue with the 810 00:38:29,112 --> 00:38:32,019 age gap between pedro pascal and vanessa kirby, and there is an 811 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,614 age gap there that I think they're 13 years apart, like the 812 00:38:34,614 --> 00:38:35,396 actors themselves. 813 00:38:36,117 --> 00:38:39,217 Speaker 3: But what did you actually think of the, the 814 00:38:39,277 --> 00:38:42,713 portrayals of the character out characters plural outside of you 815 00:38:42,713 --> 00:38:47,306 know that discrepancy, so the way I derided the other 816 00:38:47,567 --> 00:38:50,255 fantastic four movies, saying that reed looked like he was 13, 817 00:38:50,255 --> 00:38:53,304 like it wasn't that game-breaking for me. 818 00:38:53,304 --> 00:38:58,195 Um sure, and maybe it's because , like I mean, you know, I mean 819 00:38:58,255 --> 00:38:59,297 it's, it's not out of the question. 820 00:38:59,297 --> 00:39:01,641 I mean, in the comics I'm fairly certain that they're 821 00:39:01,681 --> 00:39:05,715 closer in age than 13 years, but that didn't bother me too much. 822 00:39:05,715 --> 00:39:09,099 I thought Reed did a really good job, not Reed, sorry. 823 00:39:09,099 --> 00:39:11,630 Pedro Pascal did a really good job as Reed. 824 00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:17,824 I mean, I did speak about my Pedro Pascal, what's it called? 825 00:39:18,050 --> 00:39:19,858 Speaker 2: You have an actual Pedro Pascal fatigue. 826 00:39:19,858 --> 00:39:20,648 Yes, yeah, pascal, um what's it called? 827 00:39:20,648 --> 00:39:21,320 You have an actual pedro pascal fatigue? 828 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,672 Yes, yeah, I'm just. 829 00:39:21,623 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people do you know I love him, 830 00:39:23,521 --> 00:39:27,833 but I want him to be who I want him to be certain people and 831 00:39:27,853 --> 00:39:31,699 like I, I guess my, my thinking is and it seems like he's signed 832 00:39:31,699 --> 00:39:35,436 on right, like he's gonna be in 616 yeah, presumably right. 833 00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:37,079 So it's, you know, it's it's gonna be a while with him, uh, 834 00:39:37,099 --> 00:39:38,483 and you know it's not like these movies are coming out quickly 835 00:39:38,503 --> 00:39:38,623 either. 836 00:39:38,623 --> 00:39:39,025 You know it's. 837 00:39:39,025 --> 00:39:40,510 It's gonna be a while with him, uh, and you know it's not like 838 00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:42,373 these movies are coming out quickly either, you know. 839 00:39:42,373 --> 00:39:45,802 So I wonder if that age difference will maybe even be 840 00:39:45,869 --> 00:39:48,523 more pronounced looking in a couple of years, uh, when they 841 00:39:48,563 --> 00:39:49,829 finally come out with another movie. 842 00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:53,695 But I thought that he did a really good job. 843 00:39:54,077 --> 00:39:58,764 Speaker 2: I I really felt reed's feelings of inadequacy 844 00:39:59,994 --> 00:40:03,615 yeah and he does have that in the comics, like he's a very 845 00:40:03,677 --> 00:40:07,458 competent person, but he struggles with the limits of his 846 00:40:07,458 --> 00:40:08,822 own mind. 847 00:40:09,371 --> 00:40:10,735 Speaker 3: And I love that it wasn't just. 848 00:40:10,735 --> 00:40:11,840 He's a brainiac, right? 849 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:18,581 He's a brainiac who then allows himself to actually feel worse 850 00:40:18,722 --> 00:40:22,371 about everything because he believes he has the ability to 851 00:40:22,431 --> 00:40:25,137 do so much it's, yeah, such a great dynamic. 852 00:40:25,157 --> 00:40:28,713 Speaker 1: You know like he's too much into his own head yeah 853 00:40:28,913 --> 00:40:30,416 yeah, so I what did you? 854 00:40:30,556 --> 00:40:30,777 Speaker 2: what? 855 00:40:30,777 --> 00:40:32,740 I'm sorry, um sorry rich. 856 00:40:32,740 --> 00:40:33,563 Go ahead, keep going no. 857 00:40:33,583 --> 00:40:35,271 Speaker 3: So I thought what did you guys think about reed 858 00:40:35,652 --> 00:40:35,893 anthony? 859 00:40:36,373 --> 00:40:38,096 Speaker 1: um, he, he's solid, I it. 860 00:40:38,096 --> 00:40:43,384 I do kind of feel you about the , the, the Pedro fatigue. 861 00:40:43,384 --> 00:40:46,936 He has been in a lot and it's like you know we've got some 862 00:40:47,097 --> 00:40:49,409 other actors that could be portraying some of these 863 00:40:49,429 --> 00:40:49,891 characters. 864 00:40:49,891 --> 00:40:54,242 I'm not saying you know Mr Fantastic in particular, but you 865 00:40:54,242 --> 00:40:57,414 know, yeah, they have been casting him for a lot and you 866 00:40:57,454 --> 00:41:01,724 know you got to allow for people to miss something, to for them 867 00:41:01,789 --> 00:41:02,831 to want more. 868 00:41:02,831 --> 00:41:07,621 You know, and you know you, you can't just like allow everybody 869 00:41:07,621 --> 00:41:10,833 to be gluttons and to, you know , receive all this content with 870 00:41:10,873 --> 00:41:12,077 this one particular actor. 871 00:41:12,077 --> 00:41:15,833 No man, you gotta put him here, put him there, you know, and 872 00:41:15,893 --> 00:41:17,476 just allow people to enjoy it. 873 00:41:17,476 --> 00:41:20,059 You know, not to shove their face. 874 00:41:20,059 --> 00:41:25,576 But as far as his, his portrayal of of reed richards, 875 00:41:26,378 --> 00:41:28,021 uh, I think he did a pretty solid job. 876 00:41:28,021 --> 00:41:31,195 You know, yeah, like you said, some for somebody being so 877 00:41:31,255 --> 00:41:36,387 brilliant to be so like trapped in their mind, you know, about 878 00:41:36,768 --> 00:41:40,719 being able to do more, feeling feelings that they should be 879 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,461 able to do more. 880 00:41:41,541 --> 00:41:45,778 Speaker 2: You know yeah, um, jumping on the uh, pedro pascal 881 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:46,539 fatigue. 882 00:41:46,539 --> 00:41:49,213 I don't want to like beat it to death, but it is funny because, 883 00:41:49,213 --> 00:41:54,126 um, when fantastic four first dropped, he was in two other 884 00:41:54,186 --> 00:41:58,157 movies currently playing in theaters, and the story is not 885 00:41:58,177 --> 00:42:00,731 just I've seen that dude, I've seen that video. 886 00:42:01,112 --> 00:42:04,420 He's in materialists and he's in eddington. 887 00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:05,684 And not only that. 888 00:42:05,684 --> 00:42:10,134 Not only that, he was slated to be in the movie weapons that 889 00:42:10,175 --> 00:42:11,436 just dropped this week. 890 00:42:11,436 --> 00:42:13,320 Uh, the horror movie weapons. 891 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,563 Um, he was. 892 00:42:14,563 --> 00:42:16,911 He was supposed to play the character that josh brolin 893 00:42:16,952 --> 00:42:23,418 currently plays in the movie, but he was too booked so he was 894 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:28,945 they recast the whole movie uh engagements, or six projects 895 00:42:28,965 --> 00:42:30,471 that he's working on he was. 896 00:42:30,592 --> 00:42:33,539 He was stretched too thin, but not as, oh, actually, no, there 897 00:42:33,579 --> 00:42:36,112 is a moment in this movie where reed is stretched a little too 898 00:42:36,152 --> 00:42:40,121 thin, um, but uh, let's, let's jump over to vanessa kirby, 899 00:42:40,161 --> 00:42:46,476 because I think that she is magical as a sue storm like she, 900 00:42:46,476 --> 00:42:51,023 my god, the, the ending, uh, the, the. 901 00:42:51,023 --> 00:42:54,635 The fact that, like you know, they finally use sue storm to 902 00:42:54,675 --> 00:42:56,300 her like potential, like in their comics. 903 00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:59,251 She's, she's one of the more more powerful individuals, um, 904 00:42:59,530 --> 00:43:03,193 and we barely got that much of that in the previous movies, but 905 00:43:03,193 --> 00:43:04,235 now they really showed. 906 00:43:04,775 --> 00:43:08,117 Speaker 1: You know, she can one on one with Galactus, and you 907 00:43:08,157 --> 00:43:25,211 know we haven't really gotten her in in like physical or, uh, 908 00:43:25,572 --> 00:43:30,101 in movies, where, where she's done you know that kind of scale 909 00:43:30,101 --> 00:43:33,873 of fighting and she's really yeah, yeah, she was I. 910 00:43:33,873 --> 00:43:37,922 I thought that that vanessa kirby did a fantastic job as sue 911 00:43:37,922 --> 00:43:40,356 storm it's almost like that mother strength that you 912 00:43:40,396 --> 00:43:41,237 sometimes hear about. 913 00:43:41,318 --> 00:43:43,994 Speaker 2: You know, like when a kid is like underneath a car, 914 00:43:44,114 --> 00:43:47,210 mothers will suddenly find the strength to lift the car, and 915 00:43:47,331 --> 00:43:50,398 it's a known thing that can happen based on, just like, 916 00:43:50,557 --> 00:43:52,802 mother's instincts and adrenaline just taking over. 917 00:43:52,802 --> 00:43:55,596 So the fact that you know she is such a powerful individual, 918 00:43:56,038 --> 00:43:59,659 plus Galactus had her child in that moment, it was just like a 919 00:43:59,721 --> 00:44:02,739 recipe for disaster for galactus because, like you're not going 920 00:44:02,759 --> 00:44:06,411 to stop a mother, uh, you know, trying to save their child and I 921 00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:07,393 , I love that. 922 00:44:07,393 --> 00:44:09,197 I, I really love that. 923 00:44:09,197 --> 00:44:11,260 Um, I think she did a fantastic job. 924 00:44:11,260 --> 00:44:14,353 Um, what did you think, rich of vanessa? 925 00:44:14,373 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 3: she was, I think I mean other than mole man. 926 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,947 I think she was the strongest, the strongest, uh, strongest 927 00:44:20,967 --> 00:44:28,983 actor like because the casting, because she's amazing, I can't. 928 00:44:28,983 --> 00:44:30,751 There's nothing I'm going to add to what you guys just said. 929 00:44:30,751 --> 00:44:33,197 Right, because it's yeah, sure, yeah I feel the same way. 930 00:44:33,197 --> 00:44:36,112 But what's a paul walter hauser or whatever? 931 00:44:36,112 --> 00:44:41,242 Uh, as mole I I, I was giddy, like I was excited, like you 932 00:44:41,282 --> 00:44:45,617 know, I was like oh the moloids and, uh, I'm glad that you know, 933 00:44:45,617 --> 00:44:47,541 I know, you know they ended up cutting out. 934 00:44:47,782 --> 00:44:49,434 Um, what's his name? 935 00:44:49,434 --> 00:44:53,407 Red ghost, which was, which was the character, uh, the actor we 936 00:44:53,407 --> 00:44:56,452 spoke about earlier being cut out, and they did that kind of 937 00:44:56,534 --> 00:44:58,996 montage of of of their past fights. 938 00:44:58,996 --> 00:45:04,143 But when I saw the literal cover of the first appearance of 939 00:45:04,143 --> 00:45:09,577 Mole man, right, and even they had the cover of them battling 940 00:45:09,878 --> 00:45:12,204 the giant green guy, who's the one I forget now. 941 00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:14,358 Speaker 2: Yes, which is from the very first cover. 942 00:45:14,358 --> 00:45:17,277 Like, they almost showed the exact cover of the first 943 00:45:17,317 --> 00:45:18,541 Fantastic Four comic, which I was blown away by. 944 00:45:18,541 --> 00:45:19,925 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they almost showed the exact cover of the 945 00:45:19,965 --> 00:45:21,028 first Fantastic Four comic, which I was blown away by. 946 00:45:21,028 --> 00:45:21,230 Yeah, yeah. 947 00:45:21,789 --> 00:45:23,135 Speaker 1: That was some really good. 948 00:45:24,751 --> 00:45:25,856 Speaker 2: Some deep cuts for the fans. 949 00:45:25,916 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was solid. 950 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,641 Like I did notice that also myself. 951 00:45:28,641 --> 00:45:34,237 Oh yeah, so the actor of Mole man was also in Naked Gun. 952 00:45:34,659 --> 00:45:35,039 Speaker 2: Oh is he? 953 00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:35,900 Yeah, he is. 954 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:36,623 He's so funny. 955 00:45:36,623 --> 00:45:37,769 He's so funny man, nice. 956 00:45:37,769 --> 00:45:42,101 I liked the dynamic of him and Sue. 957 00:45:42,101 --> 00:45:44,996 They don't really explain it. 958 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:46,608 Speaker 3: He's just like he respects Sue. 959 00:45:46,608 --> 00:45:52,581 There's a prequel comic or like a pre-movie comic, that if you 960 00:45:52,661 --> 00:45:57,297 read it they explain the dynamic between the two of them. 961 00:45:57,918 --> 00:45:58,681 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to read it. 962 00:45:58,681 --> 00:45:59,722 I love tie-in comics. 963 00:45:59,722 --> 00:46:00,733 I love tie-in and novels. 964 00:46:00,733 --> 00:46:02,521 I did not realize that was a thing. 965 00:46:02,521 --> 00:46:06,833 Um, I I tend to actually consume more thai and material 966 00:46:06,873 --> 00:46:09,119 than I consume the material itself. 967 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:13,632 Um, which, dude, if you look at my audio like audible library, 968 00:46:13,773 --> 00:46:17,699 it's like 250 books and like 90 of its th's tie-in novels of 969 00:46:17,739 --> 00:46:20,744 like Star Wars and different franchises. 970 00:46:20,744 --> 00:46:22,695 I'm a monster. 971 00:46:22,695 --> 00:46:27,954 But what did you guys think of Johnny Storm played by Joseph 972 00:46:27,994 --> 00:46:28,195 Quinn? 973 00:46:28,195 --> 00:46:32,108 We've met Joseph Quinn in Stranger Things, eddie. 974 00:46:32,128 --> 00:46:32,791 Speaker 1: Munson, I don't know who. 975 00:46:32,831 --> 00:46:33,996 Speaker 2: Rich, you watch Yep. 976 00:46:33,996 --> 00:46:37,715 So he played Eddie Munson in Stranger Things and a lot of 977 00:46:37,735 --> 00:46:39,813 people didn't think that he had the acting chops for a character 978 00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:42,297 like Johnny Storm, but I was 100% sold. 979 00:46:44,554 --> 00:46:49,197 Speaker 3: I kind of said to myself, eddie Munson, I was like 980 00:46:49,197 --> 00:46:54,115 no way, and it's definitely a different, and I think I 981 00:46:54,155 --> 00:46:54,802 appreciated it. 982 00:46:54,802 --> 00:47:00,802 I don't know, I don't think I read tons of Fantastic Four 983 00:47:00,822 --> 00:47:02,293 growing up, I just wasn't. 984 00:47:02,293 --> 00:47:05,318 I also think that I may have been a little bit phased out 985 00:47:05,891 --> 00:47:06,434 because of the whole. 986 00:47:06,434 --> 00:47:12,056 The FF were kind of phased out a little bit, as were X-Men for 987 00:47:12,076 --> 00:47:12,257 a bit. 988 00:47:12,257 --> 00:47:17,355 X-men was always my jam so I was never going to let go of 989 00:47:17,375 --> 00:47:17,615 them. 990 00:47:17,615 --> 00:47:22,581 But when Fantastic Four was no longer widely available, I'll 991 00:47:22,601 --> 00:47:25,608 call it like you know, or being pushed by marvel as much I 992 00:47:25,688 --> 00:47:26,150 wasn't reading. 993 00:47:27,132 --> 00:47:32,722 So a lot of my johnny storm is from like chris evans um movie 994 00:47:32,762 --> 00:47:35,231 and like the the ribbing and I. 995 00:47:35,231 --> 00:47:40,039 I'm used to a little bit more of a contentious friendship with 996 00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:43,324 Storm and thing, but we've seen that. 997 00:47:43,324 --> 00:47:46,329 So I liked this change in the dynamic. 998 00:47:46,329 --> 00:47:50,699 I don't know if I buy him being like a super. 999 00:47:50,699 --> 00:47:54,952 I guess it makes sense right that he's also a scientist, 1000 00:47:54,972 --> 00:47:59,338 because that's a change they had here, where he's this amazing 1001 00:47:59,378 --> 00:48:03,503 scientist who basically, with like four words, is able to 1002 00:48:03,643 --> 00:48:05,005 uncover an entire language. 1003 00:48:05,646 --> 00:48:07,456 Speaker 2: Right, he's able to start piecing together. 1004 00:48:07,456 --> 00:48:08,635 I like that they did that. 1005 00:48:08,829 --> 00:48:10,409 Speaker 1: Because, dude, this guy's an astronaut. 1006 00:48:10,690 --> 00:48:11,434 Speaker 2: Come on now. 1007 00:48:13,134 --> 00:48:15,422 Speaker 1: You can't make him a meathead Like he's got to know 1008 00:48:15,461 --> 00:48:15,807 something. 1009 00:48:15,807 --> 00:48:20,059 I mean, you got to be, you have to have somewhat of a brain to 1010 00:48:20,121 --> 00:48:21,811 like be able to go up to space, you know. 1011 00:48:21,811 --> 00:48:23,295 So I do like that. 1012 00:48:23,295 --> 00:48:23,876 They did that. 1013 00:48:23,956 --> 00:48:27,530 Speaker 3: And then katie perry um, sorry, I just said katie 1014 00:48:27,570 --> 00:48:28,072 perry out loud. 1015 00:48:28,072 --> 00:48:32,481 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that and then um what he said 1016 00:48:32,501 --> 00:48:32,862 you have to be. 1017 00:48:32,862 --> 00:48:35,034 You have to be smart to go to space. 1018 00:48:35,034 --> 00:48:38,179 So I just said katie perry's, just that's my, my. 1019 00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,963 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was let's keep it going, let's keep 1020 00:48:41,003 --> 00:48:41,204 it going. 1021 00:48:42,411 --> 00:48:44,257 Speaker 1: But but I I did like that. 1022 00:48:44,257 --> 00:48:48,594 They did have, like you know, they, they, they did have some 1023 00:48:48,635 --> 00:48:53,481 like jab kind of jabs here and there between Johnny Storm and 1024 00:48:53,521 --> 00:48:54,704 thing Ben Grimm. 1025 00:48:54,923 --> 00:48:55,445 Speaker 2: I like that. 1026 00:48:55,445 --> 00:48:56,425 I like the banter. 1027 00:48:56,425 --> 00:48:59,536 That's something that always has to happen in these movies to 1028 00:48:59,536 --> 00:49:00,056 some degree. 1029 00:49:00,056 --> 00:49:02,681 There has to be some level of like, not necessarily 1030 00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:07,932 disagreement, but um playful banter and jabs at each other's 1031 00:49:08,012 --> 00:49:08,373 expense. 1032 00:49:08,514 --> 00:49:11,101 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, yeah and and the actors kind of 1033 00:49:11,141 --> 00:49:12,393 like do that in real life too. 1034 00:49:12,393 --> 00:49:15,346 I don't know if you've seen that if you watch the video of 1035 00:49:15,365 --> 00:49:18,114 them, like in an interview and and then, like joseph quinn's, 1036 00:49:18,155 --> 00:49:22,574 just like looking over at um what oh yes, that's such a funny 1037 00:49:22,574 --> 00:49:25,902 and he's like making him laugh and and the funny thing about it 1038 00:49:25,902 --> 00:49:27,114 is that we've all been there. 1039 00:49:27,496 --> 00:49:30,507 We've always had, we've all had that friend that have been 1040 00:49:30,568 --> 00:49:33,853 trying to get us to laugh in like the worst times I love that 1041 00:49:33,853 --> 00:49:34,434 , I love that. 1042 00:49:34,534 --> 00:49:35,735 Speaker 2: I love their dynamic so much. 1043 00:49:35,735 --> 00:49:41,143 And just to jump on like uh, the the johnny storm parade, I 1044 00:49:41,163 --> 00:49:45,954 guess, uh, I really I think it was a cool idea for him to. 1045 00:49:45,954 --> 00:49:49,762 You know, he he has been clearly interested in these 1046 00:49:49,922 --> 00:49:51,349 alien messages for a while. 1047 00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:57,398 He has like 20 something tapes all like for, uh, the current 1048 00:49:57,418 --> 00:49:58,079 silver surfer. 1049 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:02,226 I think her name is shara, shara bell shala, is that shala? 1050 00:50:02,226 --> 00:50:07,659 I keep getting confused with uh , shara bay, which is in in star 1051 00:50:07,659 --> 00:50:07,981 wars. 1052 00:50:07,981 --> 00:50:11,333 Uh poe dameron's mother, I, I, their, their names are very 1053 00:50:11,373 --> 00:50:11,655 similar. 1054 00:50:11,655 --> 00:50:14,280 I will always and I will continue to mess it up, but 1055 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,257 anyway, I love that all these messages are are sent to her, um 1056 00:50:18,257 --> 00:50:21,291 , and they, they kind of explain it in a certain way and he's 1057 00:50:21,331 --> 00:50:25,119 able to try to like translate it based on, uh, that, that one 1058 00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:28,813 phrase, um, that colloquialism that she was able to impart on 1059 00:50:28,833 --> 00:50:28,954 him. 1060 00:50:28,954 --> 00:50:30,356 I thought that was so cool. 1061 00:50:30,356 --> 00:50:31,340 That was so cool. 1062 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,980 Let's talk about the thing really quick, not really quick, 1063 00:50:34,059 --> 00:50:34,300 actually. 1064 00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,331 Let's, let's give him, let's give him a little spotlight. 1065 00:50:36,331 --> 00:50:38,416 I, I think, uh, hold on. 1066 00:50:38,416 --> 00:50:39,418 What's the actor's name? 1067 00:50:39,418 --> 00:50:40,762 I always forget it. 1068 00:50:40,762 --> 00:50:43,858 His name is Eben Moss, bakrak, bakrak. 1069 00:50:43,858 --> 00:50:46,931 I mean, the cadence of the character's voice was kind of 1070 00:50:47,012 --> 00:50:50,813 like perfect it was it's always what I kind of envisioned the 1071 00:50:50,853 --> 00:50:54,429 thing to talk like and to like act like the certain swagger 1072 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:55,494 that he added to the role. 1073 00:50:55,494 --> 00:50:58,713 You don't need like a really gravelly voice, you don't need a 1074 00:50:58,713 --> 00:51:02,780 really deep voice or anything, you just need someone who's your 1075 00:51:02,780 --> 00:51:06,050 best friend, you know who you play video games with, that's, 1076 00:51:06,130 --> 00:51:08,597 that's, that's the thing right there, and I I think that he 1077 00:51:08,717 --> 00:51:12,713 kind of nailed that role and, uh , I I want to see more of that 1078 00:51:12,813 --> 00:51:16,742 actually they gave him like that og kind of look also, you know, 1079 00:51:16,742 --> 00:51:21,721 like the way that the thing high brows yeah, yeah I, uh, I, 1080 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,795 I really liked, I like, I liked, I definitely like the portrayal 1081 00:51:24,795 --> 00:51:26,340 better this time around. 1082 00:51:26,579 --> 00:51:28,391 Speaker 3: Uh, or I mean the way he looks visually like, 1083 00:51:28,411 --> 00:51:31,259 definitely better than michael chiklis's uh, uh thing. 1084 00:51:32,161 --> 00:51:34,552 Speaker 2: I not, no, no, no hate on michael chiklis either 1085 00:51:34,612 --> 00:51:36,699 like I, I I do like that role. 1086 00:51:36,699 --> 00:51:37,340 But yeah, go ahead. 1087 00:51:37,340 --> 00:51:38,635 You know, I think he looks better. 1088 00:51:38,655 --> 00:51:39,099 Speaker 3: I think he does. 1089 00:51:39,099 --> 00:51:39,623 I think he looks better. 1090 00:51:39,623 --> 00:51:39,945 I think he does. 1091 00:51:39,945 --> 00:51:40,570 I think he looks better. 1092 00:51:40,570 --> 00:51:47,360 I think he's portrayed as he reminded me very much of Raphael 1093 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,389 from the original Turtles movie in that first Fantastic Four 1094 00:51:52,092 --> 00:51:54,059 where he's got to be the angry guy. 1095 00:51:54,059 --> 00:51:58,659 It's almost like he's one-dimensional. 1096 00:51:58,659 --> 00:52:00,556 He's angry because he's hurt. 1097 00:52:00,556 --> 00:52:02,875 You know, you're talking about Chick-fil-A's character. 1098 00:52:02,934 --> 00:52:03,998 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, yeah. 1099 00:52:04,070 --> 00:52:05,393 Speaker 3: And I feel like they didn't. 1100 00:52:05,393 --> 00:52:10,034 They gave him a little bit more nuance here In one way. 1101 00:52:10,034 --> 00:52:12,001 That hurt me, but I understand why they did it. 1102 00:52:12,001 --> 00:52:14,998 So I love the clobbering time. 1103 00:52:14,998 --> 00:52:16,213 I share this with both of you. 1104 00:52:16,213 --> 00:52:17,237 I'll share this with the show. 1105 00:52:17,237 --> 00:52:20,871 I'm share this with both of you . 1106 00:52:20,871 --> 00:52:21,494 I'll share this with the show. 1107 00:52:21,514 --> 00:52:22,840 Uh, I'm also a wrestling fan and I was watching wrestling and 1108 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:23,842 there's a wrestler whose name is cm punk. 1109 00:52:23,842 --> 00:52:27,554 He's, uh in wrestling circles, uh, pretty good and uh, he's a 1110 00:52:27,675 --> 00:52:30,260 pretty big star and for his entire career. 1111 00:52:30,260 --> 00:52:34,195 When he comes out to the ring he gets on one knee, he taps his 1112 00:52:34,195 --> 00:52:37,862 wrist and he goes and then he yells it's clobbering time and 1113 00:52:37,882 --> 00:52:39,331 he's been doing it his whole career, you know. 1114 00:52:39,331 --> 00:52:43,117 So, actually, at an event this weekend, uh, this past weekend, 1115 00:52:43,659 --> 00:52:48,211 he came out in his gear but an homage to the fantastic four, 1116 00:52:48,873 --> 00:52:50,617 and it killed me that. 1117 00:52:50,617 --> 00:52:53,563 Uh, you know that apparently, in the movie, in the movie's 1118 00:52:53,650 --> 00:52:56,757 canon, uh, ben grim never actually says it's clobber and 1119 00:52:56,777 --> 00:52:59,271 time, it's just from the cartoon show and he kind of hates it, 1120 00:52:59,952 --> 00:53:02,920 uh, so that was like it was funny, but he eventually 1121 00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:03,481 embraces it. 1122 00:53:03,501 --> 00:53:06,835 Speaker 1: Yeah, for all of its yeah because johnny storm eggs 1123 00:53:06,896 --> 00:53:09,742 him on right, like, like, that's one of those moments where you 1124 00:53:09,782 --> 00:53:14,335 like say it, yeah, say it yeah, I like that moment. 1125 00:53:14,715 --> 00:53:16,257 Yeah, no, I I really. 1126 00:53:16,257 --> 00:53:20,242 You know, what I like about this movie is that we get them 1127 00:53:20,681 --> 00:53:24,467 already in a place where they've existed for a while. 1128 00:53:24,467 --> 00:53:31,498 They're being celebrated, and now they're in a place where 1129 00:53:31,699 --> 00:53:35,164 their lives are about to change because Sue Storm is pregnant. 1130 00:53:35,164 --> 00:53:40,436 Yeah, that's a good point, it was so nice to see like people 1131 00:53:40,536 --> 00:53:43,494 not running away from ben grim, like just walking down the 1132 00:53:43,514 --> 00:53:46,342 street, the thing um yeah, like they actually. 1133 00:53:46,382 --> 00:53:48,456 Speaker 3: You know the kids were like pick up the car. 1134 00:53:48,516 --> 00:53:51,304 Speaker 1: Pick up the car you know like, yeah, I thought I 1135 00:53:51,365 --> 00:53:53,652 that was a endearing, uh kind of moment. 1136 00:53:53,652 --> 00:53:55,195 That was whole there is a deep. 1137 00:53:55,376 --> 00:53:58,402 Speaker 2: There is a deep sadness like that you see in the 1138 00:53:58,402 --> 00:54:01,369 portrayal, uh, you see in the performance yes um, like, 1139 00:54:01,471 --> 00:54:04,597 there's a great scene where he's like looking at an old, uh old 1140 00:54:04,637 --> 00:54:09,576 footage of himself in in his, like, human form and, uh, the tv 1141 00:54:09,576 --> 00:54:11,681 cuts off and then you see the, the reflection that he's 1142 00:54:11,780 --> 00:54:12,463 actually looking at. 1143 00:54:12,463 --> 00:54:15,762 It's like the, the true self, and he never lets it kill his 1144 00:54:15,822 --> 00:54:16,103 vibe. 1145 00:54:16,103 --> 00:54:17,750 He never lets it kill anyone's vibe. 1146 00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:19,976 You know, even reed brings it up at a certain point, like I, 1147 00:54:20,237 --> 00:54:21,561 what I did to you, blah, blah, blah. 1148 00:54:21,561 --> 00:54:23,385 Um, I should, I should, have known better. 1149 00:54:23,385 --> 00:54:26,876 And he never holds reed accountable for, uh, the fact 1150 00:54:26,916 --> 00:54:28,119 that he turned into a monster. 1151 00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:28,862 He turned into a thing. 1152 00:54:29,391 --> 00:54:31,958 I love that, I love that portrayal and I it probably took 1153 00:54:31,958 --> 00:54:34,592 time, because this is supposed to be four years after they all 1154 00:54:34,632 --> 00:54:38,599 transformed, right, so it probably there was probably a 1155 00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:42,550 period where he was angsty, he was angry and he was uh lashing 1156 00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:45,739 out, but I think he's grown to accept it and I love that. 1157 00:54:45,739 --> 00:54:48,293 They even brought in his, uh, his jewish side. 1158 00:54:48,293 --> 00:54:51,039 You know, like they they didn't go too hard on it, but they 1159 00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:53,353 they showed him enter a synagogue at a very important 1160 00:54:53,393 --> 00:54:56,342 part of the scene or part of the movie, and it's just like he 1161 00:54:56,382 --> 00:54:59,072 wasn't there specifically for worship, but he was there to see 1162 00:54:59,072 --> 00:55:00,795 , you know, a woman, but it's. 1163 00:55:00,795 --> 00:55:03,458 It is just like he wasn't there specifically for worship, but 1164 00:55:03,478 --> 00:55:04,239 he was there to see a woman. 1165 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,242 But it is just a nice nod to the character's history and 1166 00:55:06,262 --> 00:55:08,244 Kirby himself the original creator. 1167 00:55:08,244 --> 00:55:13,856 So, yeah, I love those little things, but, anthony, you 1168 00:55:13,896 --> 00:55:16,282 brought up the baby. 1169 00:55:16,282 --> 00:55:19,880 The trailers barely even cover. 1170 00:55:20,110 --> 00:55:22,246 Yeah yeah, they barely showcase any of the actual story of what 1171 00:55:22,181 --> 00:55:22,521 the the trailers barely even cover. 1172 00:55:22,521 --> 00:55:23,715 Yeah, yeah, they, they barely showcase any of the actual story 1173 00:55:23,715 --> 00:55:27,483 of what the movie's about and that's that's showcased at the 1174 00:55:27,663 --> 00:55:28,831 very start of the movie. 1175 00:55:28,831 --> 00:55:32,164 You know, like we have, you know uh, reed and sue, you know 1176 00:55:32,224 --> 00:55:32,405 they. 1177 00:55:32,405 --> 00:55:34,873 She takes a pregnancy test, she shows them and that's the whole 1178 00:55:34,873 --> 00:55:38,521 catalyst for like the next couple months of the movie is 1179 00:55:38,561 --> 00:55:41,715 like getting ready for uh, the baby and reed is freaking out 1180 00:55:41,755 --> 00:55:44,666 because he's just like well, we're genetically altered, so 1181 00:55:44,746 --> 00:55:46,532 naturally the baby must be genetically altered, but he 1182 00:55:46,572 --> 00:55:47,615 can't find anything. 1183 00:55:47,615 --> 00:55:52,356 But when they eventually speak to galactus, galactus says he's 1184 00:55:52,456 --> 00:55:54,422 hiding his, his true self from you. 1185 00:55:54,422 --> 00:56:00,056 So the unborn child is it has the wherewithal to hide his true 1186 00:56:00,056 --> 00:56:01,820 self from the scans of his parents. 1187 00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:03,222 What are your thoughts on this? 1188 00:56:03,222 --> 00:56:06,753 Or is Galactus just talking out of his butt Like is he making 1189 00:56:06,793 --> 00:56:07,235 stuff up? 1190 00:56:07,235 --> 00:56:07,936 What are your thoughts? 1191 00:56:07,998 --> 00:56:08,418 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1192 00:56:08,418 --> 00:56:11,289 I don't think Galactus would be talking out of his butt Like 1193 00:56:11,309 --> 00:56:15,822 why would he care about some like mere child? 1194 00:56:15,822 --> 00:56:28,932 You know, with all the children in the world. 1195 00:56:28,932 --> 00:56:30,036 You know, like why would he care about that one child? 1196 00:56:30,036 --> 00:56:31,239 Unless there was something spectacular about that child. 1197 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:31,619 And enough for him. 1198 00:56:31,619 --> 00:56:32,282 There's something spectacular. 1199 00:56:32,282 --> 00:56:32,762 Yeah, enough, right, right. 1200 00:56:32,762 --> 00:56:34,027 Enough for him to to be like if you give me that child, I will 1201 00:56:34,047 --> 00:56:35,110 know, I will not go after your world. 1202 00:56:35,110 --> 00:56:39,137 That's galactus saying that man is the world destroyer. 1203 00:56:39,297 --> 00:56:42,742 Okay, so if he's making that, like trying to make that, that 1204 00:56:42,903 --> 00:56:47,481 you know that swap right there then, obviously, yeah, I I do 1205 00:56:47,541 --> 00:56:50,989 think that there was some, some merit to what galactus was 1206 00:56:51,010 --> 00:56:53,974 saying I don't think he knows. 1207 00:56:54,695 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's speaking plainly, like when he 1208 00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:02,885 says that that uh, franklin's been hiding it. 1209 00:57:04,646 --> 00:57:07,210 Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't know that it's a conscious 1210 00:57:07,210 --> 00:57:07,612 effort. 1211 00:57:07,833 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 3: On franklin's, yeah, I think like he said he's hidden 1212 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,655 it from you but that there could be so many reasons why he 1213 00:57:13,717 --> 00:57:14,177 might think. 1214 00:57:14,177 --> 00:57:19,150 You know, maybe reed's technology isn't advanced enough 1215 00:57:19,150 --> 00:57:21,476 to pick this up in utero. 1216 00:57:21,476 --> 00:57:22,239 You know what I mean. 1217 00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:27,342 Uh, maybe it's something that doesn't develop until after he's 1218 00:57:27,342 --> 00:57:28,266 out of the uterus. 1219 00:57:28,425 --> 00:57:30,994 Speaker 1: You could be doing it to protect sue from like you 1220 00:57:31,034 --> 00:57:35,565 know, maybe she would be harmed if he was like like releasing, 1221 00:57:36,188 --> 00:57:38,875 you know it could be like a preservation thing you know, 1222 00:57:39,317 --> 00:57:43,148 because you know, if he wasn't ready, you know sue dies, then 1223 00:57:43,228 --> 00:57:46,222 he will probably die, or he probably doesn't want to kill 1224 00:57:46,262 --> 00:57:46,704 his mom. 1225 00:57:46,704 --> 00:57:47,527 You know that kind of stuff. 1226 00:57:47,527 --> 00:57:49,012 Yeah, there, there are many. 1227 00:57:49,012 --> 00:57:52,860 Yeah, there's different reasons for for for being. 1228 00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:57,657 It could be for good reasons, it could be for malevolent, is 1229 00:57:57,697 --> 00:57:58,418 he a mutant? 1230 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,402 Speaker 2: he is, yeah, technically. 1231 00:58:00,402 --> 00:58:03,931 So they go back and forth in the comics whether or not 1232 00:58:03,992 --> 00:58:11,385 Franklin Reed is a mutant or not , but most people agree that he 1233 00:58:11,445 --> 00:58:13,938 has been termed a mutant in a couple times. 1234 00:58:16,934 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 3: But is this like I hate to be this nerdy about it 1235 00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:20,978 so does he have the X gene? 1236 00:58:20,978 --> 00:58:25,681 Or is it simply that the cosmic , the power cosmic, mutated his 1237 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,202 cells? 1238 00:58:26,202 --> 00:58:28,137 Thusly he's a mutant. 1239 00:58:28,170 --> 00:58:30,836 Speaker 2: That's, that's part of the issue is that like you 1240 00:58:30,876 --> 00:58:31,518 can make that. 1241 00:58:31,518 --> 00:58:33,163 You can make the comparison. 1242 00:58:33,163 --> 00:58:38,414 He's been dubbed a mutant in the comics, but is that because 1243 00:58:38,614 --> 00:58:42,762 his parents have genetic mutation that has already 1244 00:58:42,882 --> 00:58:46,831 altered them, or does he have the X gene on top of that and we 1245 00:58:46,831 --> 00:58:48,257 don't really have a solid answer. 1246 00:58:49,371 --> 00:58:52,217 Speaker 1: Well, we kind of have like a similar dilemma with. 1247 00:58:52,217 --> 00:58:57,612 But we know she has like the X gene gene gray, but then she has 1248 00:58:57,612 --> 00:59:00,521 that cosmic force that comes down in the Phoenix. 1249 00:59:00,521 --> 00:59:05,494 Right Phoenix force Right that cosmic force that comes down the 1250 00:59:05,494 --> 00:59:07,981 phoenix, right, phoenix force, yeah right, yeah. 1251 00:59:07,981 --> 00:59:09,847 So I mean, yeah, there could be some sort of x gene that's 1252 00:59:09,867 --> 00:59:10,710 present in franklin, but that doesn't all. 1253 00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:13,038 That doesn't exclude the fact that he also has cosmic 1254 00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:14,202 abilities too, you know. 1255 00:59:14,583 --> 00:59:16,630 Speaker 3: According to google, google a1. 1256 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:20,920 I'm sorry, that's what um, our, our secretary of education, 1257 00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:21,501 calls it AI? 1258 00:59:21,501 --> 00:59:24,663 The response is no. 1259 00:59:24,663 --> 00:59:27,784 Franklin does not kinetically possess the X gene, despite a 1260 00:59:27,824 --> 00:59:29,465 period where it was believed he did. 1261 00:59:29,465 --> 00:59:32,166 Initially, it was thought that Franklin's reality warping power 1262 00:59:32,166 --> 00:59:34,813 stemmed from him having the X gene, but this was later 1263 00:59:34,853 --> 00:59:35,376 retconned. 1264 00:59:35,376 --> 00:59:37,715 He's now understood to have gained his powers through his 1265 00:59:37,755 --> 00:59:40,911 parents' exposure to radiation, and his later ability to 1266 00:59:40,952 --> 00:59:43,759 manipulate reality was revealed to be a separate power source. 1267 00:59:43,759 --> 00:59:48,228 Okay, so that might be like yeah, I think it was that they 1268 00:59:48,248 --> 00:59:51,199 originally felt that he had the x gene, or I think they were 1269 00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:54,050 leaving it open, and then, I guess, somebody decided, hey, I 1270 00:59:54,070 --> 00:59:55,695 don't like that, and they read condom here's. 1271 00:59:55,695 --> 00:59:57,079 Here's what I think marvel will do. 1272 00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:59,152 Speaker 2: I think they will call him a mutant when the time 1273 00:59:59,193 --> 01:00:03,201 comes, the the same way that they called Ms Marvel a mutant 1274 01:00:03,641 --> 01:00:04,523 instead of an inhuman. 1275 01:00:04,804 --> 01:00:07,353 Okay, to go back to what you were saying, rich, there was a 1276 01:00:07,393 --> 01:00:11,300 period of time in the comics publishing world where Marvel 1277 01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:15,231 Comics was not actively pushing the X-Men and they definitely 1278 01:00:15,271 --> 01:00:18,960 weren't pushing the Fantastic Four, the fantastic four, and 1279 01:00:19,019 --> 01:00:22,086 the reason was that, uh, they were trying to basically kill 1280 01:00:22,447 --> 01:00:26,601 the fox movies so that, you know , the, the brand would be, you 1281 01:00:26,641 --> 01:00:28,769 know, cheap enough for them to eventually acquire. 1282 01:00:28,769 --> 01:00:33,860 So they were really pushing hard stuff like, uh, that's when 1283 01:00:33,860 --> 01:00:35,791 they really started pushing guardians of the galaxy in the 1284 01:00:35,831 --> 01:00:39,860 comics, that, that super group, and they really hyped up the 1285 01:00:40,061 --> 01:00:43,958 inhumans, probably too much, um, because they've started to walk 1286 01:00:43,958 --> 01:00:47,514 a lot of that back and certain Inhumans characters are now 1287 01:00:47,574 --> 01:00:50,922 being dubbed mutants, which is what happened in the Ms Marvel 1288 01:00:50,943 --> 01:00:51,083 show. 1289 01:00:51,083 --> 01:00:54,936 But as far as Marvel Studios goes, I believe that they will 1290 01:00:55,016 --> 01:00:58,871 simplify it to the point where, no, he has the X-Gene and 1291 01:00:59,070 --> 01:01:02,157 perhaps this is just something that Reed did not not know to 1292 01:01:02,217 --> 01:01:02,639 search for. 1293 01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:03,641 He didn't. 1294 01:01:03,641 --> 01:01:06,398 He, you know, his system just could not calibrate it because 1295 01:01:06,418 --> 01:01:07,061 it didn't exist. 1296 01:01:07,382 --> 01:01:10,052 Speaker 1: It wasn't a oh, that's a great point yeah, I 1297 01:01:10,092 --> 01:01:12,438 could see that being a thing yeah but uh. 1298 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,208 Speaker 2: But on the other hand , you definitely have, uh, 1299 01:01:15,347 --> 01:01:20,697 galactus suggesting that it's the power cosmic, which is a a 1300 01:01:20,757 --> 01:01:24,682 much older, much more powerful force in the universe than the 1301 01:01:24,903 --> 01:01:26,164 X-Gene would naturally be. 1302 01:01:26,164 --> 01:01:29,380 So it could be that Reed didn't know what the power cosmic was 1303 01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:33,677 and I think he does research it later because he starts writing 1304 01:01:33,697 --> 01:01:36,302 it on his chalkboard and all that. 1305 01:01:36,302 --> 01:01:39,719 Yeah, so there's a bunch of potentiality there. 1306 01:01:39,719 --> 01:01:44,554 But let's jump over to let's keep talking about Franklin, 1307 01:01:44,614 --> 01:01:47,340 because we actually do have him use his powers. 1308 01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:50,416 At a certain point he alters reality to a degree. 1309 01:01:50,416 --> 01:01:52,420 That is pretty OP. 1310 01:01:52,420 --> 01:02:00,273 We have Sue Storm who stops Galactus, but oh, I've been 1311 01:02:00,293 --> 01:02:03,179 calling him Franklin Reed, that's my mistake, it's Franklin 1312 01:02:03,179 --> 01:02:04,784 Richards, I apologize. 1313 01:02:04,784 --> 01:02:10,974 So Reed Richards tells Sue that she's going to die if she keeps 1314 01:02:10,974 --> 01:02:14,719 this up, because it's too much power for her to maintain, and 1315 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,021 she does. 1316 01:02:15,021 --> 01:02:19,597 She actually dies after, you know, pushing Galactus into that 1317 01:02:19,597 --> 01:02:20,661 wormhole. 1318 01:02:20,661 --> 01:02:23,775 What did you guys think of the resurrection that the Franklin 1319 01:02:24,036 --> 01:02:25,960 Richards exhibits? 1320 01:02:27,672 --> 01:02:30,380 Speaker 1: It looked like it was set up to happen. 1321 01:02:30,380 --> 01:02:33,534 Like you knew, something was going to happen, especially if 1322 01:02:33,594 --> 01:02:37,597 they were kind of building up for this baby to have some sort 1323 01:02:37,637 --> 01:02:37,858 of ability. 1324 01:02:37,858 --> 01:02:41,976 I feel like there was going to be some sort of display of that. 1325 01:02:46,173 --> 01:02:46,715 Speaker 3: And that's what we got. 1326 01:02:46,715 --> 01:02:47,516 I, I think the only. 1327 01:02:47,516 --> 01:02:49,360 So I, I mean I, you know, kind of saw it coming. 1328 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,275 I think, as anthony said there, it seemed like it was set up 1329 01:02:52,315 --> 01:02:56,130 for that and none of them dying in this movie could have been 1330 01:02:56,289 --> 01:02:57,472 real, right like um. 1331 01:02:57,472 --> 01:03:00,320 I mean, I know sue's death is technically real because she did 1332 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,193 die and then reality is bent, but what I mean is, in the, the 1333 01:03:03,213 --> 01:03:06,942 larger scope of things, there ain't no way one of them was 1334 01:03:07,001 --> 01:03:07,503 going to die. 1335 01:03:08,871 --> 01:03:14,262 So I hate that in a way, because that moment could have been. 1336 01:03:14,262 --> 01:03:15,164 I'm a parent. 1337 01:03:15,164 --> 01:03:18,414 The idea that if something happens to me, that Charlie 1338 01:03:18,934 --> 01:03:22,300 could will me back to life because he loves me, that much 1339 01:03:22,420 --> 01:03:23,643 is unbelievable. 1340 01:03:23,643 --> 01:03:25,264 But I did. 1341 01:03:25,264 --> 01:03:26,251 I didn't. 1342 01:03:26,251 --> 01:03:29,539 It didn't hit me as hard a complaint that my wife had was 1343 01:03:29,579 --> 01:03:34,255 that she that she wished that franklin had had like the power 1344 01:03:34,295 --> 01:03:36,641 cosmic, like at least a little bit in his hands. 1345 01:03:36,641 --> 01:03:38,673 Like his hand got a little blue when he touched his mom, 1346 01:03:39,175 --> 01:03:42,190 instead of it just being that he touched her and then her eyes 1347 01:03:42,231 --> 01:03:42,652 went blue. 1348 01:03:42,652 --> 01:03:45,242 Uh, because it didn't seem like he was. 1349 01:03:45,242 --> 01:03:46,427 You know what I'm saying. 1350 01:03:46,447 --> 01:03:48,512 Like usually when somebody is wielding something like this 1351 01:03:48,532 --> 01:03:51,561 yeah there is a physical indication, whether it'd be his 1352 01:03:51,740 --> 01:03:55,983 own eyes turning blue and going blank or something, uh, his hand 1353 01:03:55,983 --> 01:03:59,835 having a little bit of the power cosmic, that's so I think, 1354 01:03:59,835 --> 01:04:02,844 actually, I think actually, like if you re-watch it, there 1355 01:04:02,965 --> 01:04:07,215 is there is a slight purple glow underneath his hands, like 1356 01:04:07,596 --> 01:04:08,358 where her chest is. 1357 01:04:08,798 --> 01:04:12,371 Speaker 2: Yeah, that does that does pop up and I I thought I 1358 01:04:12,431 --> 01:04:14,597 saw it the first time and I definitely saw it the second 1359 01:04:14,617 --> 01:04:17,454 time, so it is there, it's just very, very subtle okay, all 1360 01:04:17,474 --> 01:04:17,594 right. 1361 01:04:17,635 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 3: So I only saw it once and I definitely yeah, you know 1362 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,672 that's so, I guess I just wanted to. 1363 01:04:21,672 --> 01:04:24,617 And when she said it I thought back to it and I was like you 1364 01:04:24,637 --> 01:04:29,273 know, I don't remember something yeah like super overt, you know 1365 01:04:29,273 --> 01:04:32,782 , like like when jean gray becomes inhabited by the phoenix 1366 01:04:32,782 --> 01:04:35,456 force, you see, you know, kind of like that, that 1367 01:04:35,496 --> 01:04:39,168 transformation a little bit, uh, but that's really my, I guess 1368 01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:42,894 that's my biggest gripe, because there's no way for them to do 1369 01:04:42,954 --> 01:04:47,561 that moment and have anybody I don't think I can't imagine 1370 01:04:47,641 --> 01:04:50,925 anybody in any of the theaters is like oh, my goodness, sue's 1371 01:04:51,005 --> 01:04:51,525 really dead. 1372 01:04:51,525 --> 01:04:52,632 Right, like that. 1373 01:04:52,632 --> 01:04:55,280 I don't think I don't know if it would have hit anyone that 1374 01:04:55,300 --> 01:04:55,420 way. 1375 01:04:55,420 --> 01:05:01,052 I mean, my wife, like, will cry at a Folgers commercial, and 1376 01:05:01,072 --> 01:05:05,721 you know she definitely gets attached and she didn't. 1377 01:05:06,443 --> 01:05:06,782 Speaker 1: I think. 1378 01:05:06,782 --> 01:05:09,797 I think they also spoiled that with the fact that, like, when 1379 01:05:09,817 --> 01:05:12,530 they were showing, was it like all those seats? 1380 01:05:12,530 --> 01:05:12,992 For what? 1381 01:05:12,992 --> 01:05:15,217 Was it Secret Wars or was it Doomsday uh? 1382 01:05:15,217 --> 01:05:18,070 Doomsday it showed her name she her name. 1383 01:05:18,090 --> 01:05:20,197 Speaker 2: Yeah, so all the fantastic four sitting right 1384 01:05:20,217 --> 01:05:20,677 next to each other. 1385 01:05:20,677 --> 01:05:23,432 Yeah, in the moment I didn't think about that, but after the 1386 01:05:23,472 --> 01:05:26,039 fact, like oh, yeah, that was clearly like well well, yeah, I. 1387 01:05:26,139 --> 01:05:28,795 Speaker 1: I just I didn't think that like it was a real death 1388 01:05:29,054 --> 01:05:34,253 in that moment, like I didn't feel like there was any again it 1389 01:05:34,253 --> 01:05:34,534 would be. 1390 01:05:34,773 --> 01:05:36,858 Speaker 2: It would be ip suicide, like you can no longer 1391 01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:39,632 call it the fantastic it's like no, actually technically they 1392 01:05:39,672 --> 01:05:42,295 they could, you know, just Franklin. 1393 01:05:42,295 --> 01:05:45,938 Yeah Well, Franklin, we don't know. 1394 01:05:45,938 --> 01:05:48,101 We don't know his fate after this movie. 1395 01:05:48,121 --> 01:05:48,782 Speaker 1: True, true. 1396 01:05:49,543 --> 01:05:50,583 Speaker 2: Some interesting stuff happens. 1397 01:05:50,583 --> 01:05:51,644 We'll talk about that in a little bit. 1398 01:05:51,644 --> 01:06:02,518 The coolest scene I think I've one of the coolest scenes I've 1399 01:06:02,538 --> 01:06:03,784 seen in a Marvel movie, a superhero movie in general, was 1400 01:06:03,804 --> 01:06:08,496 uh shallabell surfing the waves of the uh event horizon. 1401 01:06:08,496 --> 01:06:13,025 Dude to act, first of all, to actually see a silver surfer 1402 01:06:13,387 --> 01:06:16,494 surfing gorgeous, not only were they surfing that, they were 1403 01:06:16,534 --> 01:06:20,804 surfing through like uh warped, like warp speed. 1404 01:06:20,804 --> 01:06:21,853 You know that are they were. 1405 01:06:21,853 --> 01:06:24,231 They were going ftl they're faster than light. 1406 01:06:24,231 --> 01:06:28,760 Um, and she was surfing those waves behind dude, I was no, 1407 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:29,661 yeah, yeah. 1408 01:06:29,842 --> 01:06:33,536 Speaker 1: That was such a crazy scene, like you know that, like 1409 01:06:33,536 --> 01:06:37,364 you had all that going on and then you had sue richards who 1410 01:06:37,403 --> 01:06:40,996 was going through birth, and like there's just so much going 1411 01:06:41,097 --> 01:06:45,893 on in that moment, and it was just like nuts yeah, it was nuts 1412 01:06:45,893 --> 01:06:45,893 . 1413 01:06:46,213 --> 01:06:48,798 Uh, I, I thought that was actually really cool too. 1414 01:06:48,798 --> 01:06:49,199 Is that? 1415 01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:53,936 You know that this, this, the, the uh setting of this movie is 1416 01:06:53,956 --> 01:06:57,811 like a futuristic 60s and they have interplanetary travel. 1417 01:06:57,811 --> 01:06:59,476 You know, they can actually go. 1418 01:06:59,476 --> 01:07:03,786 They went over to, they went over to to galactus, which, like 1419 01:07:03,786 --> 01:07:06,737 that scene was really crazy too , like when you saw him like get 1420 01:07:06,737 --> 01:07:09,130 up or like no, he didn't even get up like. 1421 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:11,516 Speaker 2: He just like kind of sat there but he was massive 1422 01:07:11,536 --> 01:07:14,652 dude, that was like my mom, but then when he did actually stand 1423 01:07:14,793 --> 01:07:19,626 up in uh, when he got to earth yeah, this is a movie that the 1424 01:07:19,907 --> 01:07:23,641 imax definitely, yeah, added added to the viewing experience 1425 01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:24,431 I liked. 1426 01:07:25,092 --> 01:07:27,516 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting their initial plan 1427 01:07:27,556 --> 01:07:31,324 of like what they were going to do with Galactus heading over to 1428 01:07:31,324 --> 01:07:34,655 them that they had gotten the entire world to like. 1429 01:07:34,655 --> 01:07:36,398 They sold the world on. 1430 01:07:36,398 --> 01:07:40,284 Like this plan to move Earth to some other like solar system 1431 01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:44,311 and you almost got it made you think, oh, they're gonna bring 1432 01:07:44,331 --> 01:07:46,777 them to the mcu dude, I thought something like that was gonna 1433 01:07:46,797 --> 01:07:49,932 happen too man, it makes you think that you know what, though 1434 01:07:49,932 --> 01:07:51,277 they pull the, they pull the rug out. 1435 01:07:51,297 --> 01:07:53,777 You know what, though that might be the way that they get there, 1436 01:07:53,777 --> 01:07:55,626 though that might be the way it's possible. 1437 01:07:55,666 --> 01:07:59,278 Speaker 3: It's possible was the ultimate. 1438 01:07:59,278 --> 01:08:02,086 Now, if I recall correctly in the comics, the way they got rid 1439 01:08:02,086 --> 01:08:05,416 of galactus the first time was the ultimate nullifier. 1440 01:08:05,416 --> 01:08:07,342 Am I misremembering? 1441 01:08:07,342 --> 01:08:11,572 Because that's like such a like , such a ridiculous device uh, 1442 01:08:11,612 --> 01:08:16,082 that this is, this is beyond my knowledge oh, okay, so you're on 1443 01:08:16,082 --> 01:08:18,073 your own here, rich, you explain it to us all right. 1444 01:08:18,154 --> 01:08:22,105 So basically the ultimate nullifier let me just pull it up 1445 01:08:22,105 --> 01:08:25,215 is a powerful cosmic artifact in the marvel universe known for 1446 01:08:25,215 --> 01:08:28,712 its ability to erase anything the wielder chooses, even entire 1447 01:08:28,712 --> 01:08:30,136 timelines or concepts. 1448 01:08:30,136 --> 01:08:33,422 So it was something that was actually found aboard his ship 1449 01:08:34,292 --> 01:08:37,518 and then, uh, it was kind of used to kind of keep him. 1450 01:08:37,538 --> 01:08:39,603 Speaker 2: Do they use that in secret wars as well? 1451 01:08:39,904 --> 01:08:41,051 Speaker 3: to get rid of, I believe so. 1452 01:08:41,051 --> 01:08:45,582 So the nullifier, it's weird to me that, I don't know. 1453 01:08:45,582 --> 01:08:48,672 I just thought it might show up in the movie and I felt like 1454 01:08:48,693 --> 01:08:53,131 they went with this kind of overly convoluted I mean it was. 1455 01:08:53,131 --> 01:08:56,199 You know, look, I liked the idea that obviously this is a 1456 01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:59,912 different world and everybody's pitching in and that was kind of 1457 01:08:59,912 --> 01:09:00,354 cool. 1458 01:09:00,354 --> 01:09:04,219 Oh, before I forget, the surfer is surfing. 1459 01:09:04,219 --> 01:09:09,319 I I don't know if you guys read the don slot run, uh, so in it 1460 01:09:09,461 --> 01:09:10,783 his board actually has a name. 1461 01:09:10,783 --> 01:09:15,827 So like one day he's hanging out with this uh earth lady and 1462 01:09:15,867 --> 01:09:18,193 he ends up taking her out like the whole series, the whole run 1463 01:09:18,252 --> 01:09:21,981 is like him traveling the stars with her and she's like what's 1464 01:09:22,002 --> 01:09:22,722 your board's name? 1465 01:09:22,722 --> 01:09:27,279 And like when, when she had heard him say, uh to me, my 1466 01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:27,619 board. 1467 01:09:27,619 --> 01:09:29,583 So she's like is his name to me ? 1468 01:09:30,393 --> 01:09:33,863 and that just ends up being his name is to me, uh, because like 1469 01:09:33,884 --> 01:09:37,993 she overheard him say to me my board and I, I I just thought it 1470 01:09:37,993 --> 01:09:41,720 was such a nice because they end up anthropomorphizing the 1471 01:09:41,761 --> 01:09:42,081 board. 1472 01:09:42,081 --> 01:09:46,538 The board becomes kind of like a character. 1473 01:09:46,538 --> 01:09:49,286 He's kind of got like a little bit of a personality. 1474 01:09:49,568 --> 01:09:50,751 Speaker 2: Right, they actually. 1475 01:09:50,751 --> 01:09:55,198 Johnny has this like inner monologue throughout a portion 1476 01:09:55,217 --> 01:09:58,181 of the movie that he's only speaking to himself, where he's 1477 01:09:58,221 --> 01:10:00,626 trying to figure out if the board is part of her body or not 1478 01:10:00,626 --> 01:10:03,398 , and he, like, finally gets the aha moment. 1479 01:10:03,398 --> 01:10:04,100 They're separate. 1480 01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:06,854 So I kind of want to. 1481 01:10:07,095 --> 01:10:09,041 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they didn't have the time for 1482 01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:11,056 that there, but I thought that was great. 1483 01:10:11,056 --> 01:10:12,695 I thought the Galacta stuff was great. 1484 01:10:12,695 --> 01:10:17,538 When he rose, as I was saying before, it reminded me of 1485 01:10:17,559 --> 01:10:20,391 walking in past curfew and the lights were off and my mom was 1486 01:10:20,412 --> 01:10:22,438 like do you know what? 1487 01:10:22,478 --> 01:10:24,576 time and you're like oh my goodness, I didn't even know you 1488 01:10:24,576 --> 01:10:25,078 were there. 1489 01:10:25,078 --> 01:10:29,271 Uh, you know so that, uh, I've been here the whole time you 1490 01:10:29,332 --> 01:10:34,081 know I love that, uh, so, yeah, no, I I think that the like the 1491 01:10:34,161 --> 01:10:36,992 villain side or whatever, they did a really good job. 1492 01:10:36,992 --> 01:10:38,493 You know, I think there needs to. 1493 01:10:38,493 --> 01:10:41,738 There does need to be more exploration, like, silver Surfer 1494 01:10:41,738 --> 01:10:44,202 is a guy or a character for me. 1495 01:10:44,202 --> 01:10:46,805 That, that's the. 1496 01:10:46,805 --> 01:10:50,519 That's a guy or a character who should have like a mini series, 1497 01:10:50,519 --> 01:10:51,180 you know. 1498 01:10:51,201 --> 01:10:53,435 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's such an interesting story I don't need 1499 01:10:53,475 --> 01:10:56,354 a movie I'm not, I'm not going to go to the movies, just to go 1500 01:10:56,375 --> 01:11:03,150 see Silver Surfer or a special, yeah, like a, like an hour-long 1501 01:11:03,171 --> 01:11:04,734 special, like they, I think that would be perfect, like they did 1502 01:11:04,734 --> 01:11:06,099 with the guardians of holiday special that's or I think 1503 01:11:06,118 --> 01:11:10,011 they're doing that for uh, or like they did um werewolf by 1504 01:11:10,091 --> 01:11:10,412 night. 1505 01:11:10,592 --> 01:11:13,761 That would be another one of those um like special. 1506 01:11:13,761 --> 01:11:15,675 I think they're doing a punisher special as well, if I 1507 01:11:15,956 --> 01:11:16,557 remember correctly. 1508 01:11:16,557 --> 01:11:18,344 Yeah, let's, uh. 1509 01:11:18,344 --> 01:11:21,497 Let's round this out by talking about the post-credit scene, 1510 01:11:21,518 --> 01:11:22,805 because I think it is a, or a mid-credit scene, because I 1511 01:11:22,824 --> 01:11:23,649 think it is a mid-credit scene. 1512 01:11:23,649 --> 01:11:27,636 I think it's a pretty notable setup for what we're going to be 1513 01:11:27,636 --> 01:11:31,943 experiencing in the two-part Doomsday slash Secret Wars event 1514 01:11:31,943 --> 01:11:34,311 that Marvel is leading up to, and it actually did get me 1515 01:11:34,351 --> 01:11:37,478 excited because it started getting the juices flowing in my 1516 01:11:37,478 --> 01:11:40,024 head like, oh, so that's what they're doing. 1517 01:11:42,001 --> 01:11:42,587 Speaker 3: What were your thoughts? 1518 01:11:42,587 --> 01:11:42,990 Go ahead you. 1519 01:11:42,990 --> 01:11:45,739 I just want to ask you, this is such a minor quibble. 1520 01:11:45,739 --> 01:11:48,449 The the mid scene got you excited, right. 1521 01:11:48,449 --> 01:11:52,479 So now, when you waited to the last one, were you slightly 1522 01:11:52,599 --> 01:11:53,119 irritated? 1523 01:11:53,119 --> 01:11:55,672 Because I feel like if they would have flipped them and 1524 01:11:55,733 --> 01:11:58,900 given us the cartoon as the mid scene, I've been like, oh, 1525 01:11:58,921 --> 01:11:59,481 that's cool. 1526 01:11:59,481 --> 01:12:02,295 And then I would have seen the last one and be like oh snap. 1527 01:12:02,295 --> 01:12:05,721 Instead I was like oh snap, and then I was like I waited around 1528 01:12:05,721 --> 01:12:08,131 another six minutes for this all right. 1529 01:12:08,252 --> 01:12:12,701 Speaker 2: So for more like to marvel's credit pretty much 1530 01:12:12,921 --> 01:12:14,002 pretty much ever since. 1531 01:12:14,023 --> 01:12:14,684 Speaker 1: That was me. 1532 01:12:15,851 --> 01:12:20,841 Speaker 2: Thank you pretty much ever since uh avengers in 2012, 1533 01:12:20,841 --> 01:12:24,789 they've been doing the dumb scenes at the very end like that 1534 01:12:24,789 --> 01:12:25,030 that's. 1535 01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:27,585 That's when they entered, like the the shawarma shop and 1536 01:12:27,604 --> 01:12:30,256 they're all just like eating shawarma around a table and it's 1537 01:12:30,256 --> 01:12:30,457 such. 1538 01:12:30,457 --> 01:12:34,208 I love that scene, but it's stupid, you know, like you're 1539 01:12:34,269 --> 01:12:35,533 waiting around for like what else? 1540 01:12:35,533 --> 01:12:36,215 What else are they? 1541 01:12:36,215 --> 01:12:38,461 What they got planned and it's just them eating food. 1542 01:12:40,095 --> 01:12:43,886 Speaker 1: So they mention it in the movie, though they mention 1543 01:12:43,987 --> 01:12:44,087 it. 1544 01:12:44,207 --> 01:12:46,753 Speaker 3: They do yeah so it was kind of relevant, you know. 1545 01:12:46,753 --> 01:12:48,618 But no, this one. 1546 01:12:49,078 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1547 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,913 I I don't know if you could stack this one too. 1548 01:12:51,913 --> 01:12:55,206 I mean, it was a cute little cartoony thing, but I do feel 1549 01:12:55,225 --> 01:12:57,592 like the placement would have been better if it was swapped. 1550 01:12:57,773 --> 01:12:59,555 Speaker 2: I I agree with I gotta, I gotta look up, got to 1551 01:12:59,595 --> 01:13:00,918 look up, I got to look up. 1552 01:13:00,918 --> 01:13:03,844 So, no, I actually disagree with both of you. 1553 01:13:03,844 --> 01:13:10,880 I do think that they need the bigger reveal shortly after the 1554 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,746 credits, like after the mid portion of the credits. 1555 01:13:14,746 --> 01:13:18,298 And the reason they do that is because you're still in the 1556 01:13:18,340 --> 01:13:20,677 movie, vibe, you know, you're still feeling the energy of the 1557 01:13:20,698 --> 01:13:20,899 movie. 1558 01:13:20,899 --> 01:13:22,387 If they cut you with a cartoon, the energy of the movie, um, if 1559 01:13:22,387 --> 01:13:26,059 they they cut you with uh, you know, a cartoon, a lot of people 1560 01:13:26,059 --> 01:13:26,479 are going to leave. 1561 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,993 They're not going to see what you want them to see. 1562 01:13:28,993 --> 01:13:31,279 That's just a little flavor text at the end. 1563 01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:33,153 You know, like and they've been doing it for a while, it's, 1564 01:13:33,252 --> 01:13:35,860 it's not the shawarma scene, isn't, uh, the only time that 1565 01:13:35,890 --> 01:13:36,310 they've done that. 1566 01:13:36,371 --> 01:13:39,675 They've done that a couple times now well, I would say, I would 1567 01:13:39,715 --> 01:13:41,978 say howard the duck, howard, the duck at the end of like 1568 01:13:41,997 --> 01:13:46,122 guardians, uh like useless, but it's so funny like it's well, I 1569 01:13:46,162 --> 01:13:48,810 would say like you, maybe, you know, change up the formula a 1570 01:13:48,831 --> 01:13:49,431 little bit. 1571 01:13:49,493 --> 01:13:51,939 Speaker 1: I mean, they are floundering, you know, you know 1572 01:13:52,038 --> 01:13:55,875 okay, all right, all right, all right whatever to to make things 1573 01:13:55,875 --> 01:13:57,457 go, but um what? 1574 01:13:57,537 --> 01:13:58,520 Speaker 2: what did you guys think of? 1575 01:13:59,121 --> 01:14:01,431 Speaker 3: uh, what they showed, because some people are 1576 01:14:01,452 --> 01:14:05,418 theorizing that that's actually a scene from avengers doomsday I 1577 01:14:05,418 --> 01:14:09,391 mean it could be because you know, yeah, uh, if doom has in 1578 01:14:09,412 --> 01:14:11,936 the comics I'm pretty sure doom basically kind of either 1579 01:14:11,997 --> 01:14:16,032 invented the same form of travel that reed did, the platform, 1580 01:14:16,752 --> 01:14:21,801 the time platform thing, so if that's what he's using, uh, it 1581 01:14:21,841 --> 01:14:24,831 makes you know you can play with it in any which way you want 1582 01:14:25,452 --> 01:14:29,259 okay right, because because it it would. 1583 01:14:29,619 --> 01:14:32,951 I mean, obviously, doom has magic as well, but you, he just 1584 01:14:33,051 --> 01:14:34,193 appears there. 1585 01:14:34,193 --> 01:14:38,757 There's no sign of, of, you know, forced entry. 1586 01:14:38,757 --> 01:14:44,444 Uh, there was no loud crash, it was a very quiet invasion, if 1587 01:14:44,465 --> 01:14:45,286 you want to call it that. 1588 01:14:45,286 --> 01:14:52,323 So, almost like a secretive invasion, um so, um, so it 1589 01:14:52,385 --> 01:14:53,006 actually what? 1590 01:14:53,046 --> 01:14:56,494 Speaker 2: I just looked it up, that was robert downey jr in in 1591 01:14:56,534 --> 01:14:57,117 that costume. 1592 01:14:57,117 --> 01:15:00,488 So I have to assume that they wouldn't have, you know, paid 1593 01:15:00,528 --> 01:15:03,496 him millions upon millions to, you know, film a scene for this 1594 01:15:03,556 --> 01:15:05,462 movie and that it is a scene from another movie. 1595 01:15:05,462 --> 01:15:09,597 I think it is probably filmed for Doomsday and they used it in 1596 01:15:09,597 --> 01:15:12,043 this movie just because it totally works. 1597 01:15:12,043 --> 01:15:17,377 But I think the scene is very important, like extremely 1598 01:15:17,436 --> 01:15:20,661 important for the future of marvel studios because if you 1599 01:15:20,702 --> 01:15:23,831 think about, or if you, you know , if you know, uh, franklin 1600 01:15:23,871 --> 01:15:27,759 richards, and you know his power side, franklin richards creates 1601 01:15:27,759 --> 01:15:32,335 universes like he, he's able to create universes and, in some 1602 01:15:32,375 --> 01:15:35,770 cases, multiverses like he, just he, he's literally, he makes 1603 01:15:35,850 --> 01:15:39,797 little pocket dimensions that can be blown up into actual 1604 01:15:40,018 --> 01:15:40,760 worlds Like he's. 1605 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,175 Like If he was equated to a mutant, he would be above omega 1606 01:15:45,215 --> 01:15:49,658 level mutant, it's just there's nothing quite like it in Marvel 1607 01:15:50,931 --> 01:15:51,997 In terms of reality warming. 1608 01:15:52,090 --> 01:15:59,738 So I think that this is how they create Battle world In Secret 1609 01:15:59,778 --> 01:16:01,716 Wars, when they eventually get there. 1610 01:16:01,716 --> 01:16:06,215 So battle world For those of you who don't know is basically 1611 01:16:06,274 --> 01:16:10,882 doom, uh, and it's not always doom uh, but they, they, they 1612 01:16:11,122 --> 01:16:12,350 have doom in these comics. 1613 01:16:12,350 --> 01:16:14,457 But I and I think that they're going to use doom as, like, the 1614 01:16:14,717 --> 01:16:18,179 main antagonist here but um, he isn't the main antagonist in 1615 01:16:18,238 --> 01:16:21,449 those comics, but basically, like they create this battle 1616 01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:23,974 world scenario where they bring different, different characters 1617 01:16:24,014 --> 01:16:26,240 from different worlds to bat, to duke it out, and then they 1618 01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:29,304 realize, oh wait, we're mostly all on the same side and they 1619 01:16:29,344 --> 01:16:31,430 find a way to get out of this battle world scenario. 1620 01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:38,238 Um, and I think doom is going to use, uh, franklin richards to 1621 01:16:38,238 --> 01:16:44,463 uh, not only traverse the multiverse but to create battle 1622 01:16:44,503 --> 01:16:47,972 world and and basically bring all of these disparate heroes 1623 01:16:48,052 --> 01:16:51,801 from the x-men universe, from 828, from 616, I think he's 1624 01:16:51,981 --> 01:16:55,576 they're all just going to come um, using the power of this 1625 01:16:55,636 --> 01:16:59,189 four-year-old kid, uh, so I think that could be a really 1626 01:16:59,270 --> 01:17:01,376 cool connective tissue thing that they're doing. 1627 01:17:01,555 --> 01:17:02,939 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they use the molecule. 1628 01:17:02,939 --> 01:17:07,881 I think Doom steals the powers of the Beyonders. 1629 01:17:07,881 --> 01:17:10,860 Yeah, it's the Beyonders, that's correct. 1630 01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:15,136 And then using Molecule man right, he's an important part of 1631 01:17:15,136 --> 01:17:17,296 it because I think he's in every universe or something. 1632 01:17:17,296 --> 01:17:19,436 So that'll definitely be a workaround here. 1633 01:17:19,436 --> 01:17:20,612 I hope it. 1634 01:17:20,612 --> 01:17:23,957 Did you guys play Lego Marvel Super Heroes 2? 1635 01:17:23,957 --> 01:17:25,039 No, no. 1636 01:17:25,791 --> 01:17:28,555 So they kind of do the battle world, but here what they do is 1637 01:17:28,574 --> 01:17:33,295 like it's a slice of every reality, right as like as the 1638 01:17:33,354 --> 01:17:33,576 map. 1639 01:17:33,576 --> 01:17:38,853 So like you fly from like Suter to, you know, to the Kree home 1640 01:17:38,894 --> 01:17:41,631 planet, whatever, like you're you kind of, yeah, it contains 1641 01:17:41,692 --> 01:17:42,493 all of them in that. 1642 01:17:42,493 --> 01:17:47,180 I hope that in some way we get to see like some sort of 1643 01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:52,073 amalgamed battle world that has like elements, not just the 1644 01:17:52,132 --> 01:17:55,921 people, but like elements of their world, uh, in it. 1645 01:17:55,921 --> 01:17:58,453 I don't know, it's just a crazy idea, but I remember like they 1646 01:17:58,474 --> 01:17:59,577 had the noir world. 1647 01:17:59,577 --> 01:18:02,582 So when you went into that area , like everybody was black, you 1648 01:18:02,603 --> 01:18:03,328 turned black and white. 1649 01:18:05,036 --> 01:18:08,880 I hope they really lean into the differences, because he can 1650 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,210 create anything. 1651 01:18:10,210 --> 01:18:14,337 He's a child, he's going to be imaginative. 1652 01:18:14,337 --> 01:18:17,851 Who knows if he's misinterpreting where he's 1653 01:18:17,891 --> 01:18:18,796 taking people from? 1654 01:18:18,796 --> 01:18:22,282 I think it's going to be really awesome and I'm actually really 1655 01:18:22,282 --> 01:18:22,492 happy. 1656 01:18:22,492 --> 01:18:24,101 Think it's going to be really awesome and I'm actually really 1657 01:18:24,141 --> 01:18:27,668 happy that doom is going to be iron man, because I think it's 1658 01:18:28,009 --> 01:18:31,957 there's going to be a lot of layering there to why? 1659 01:18:31,957 --> 01:18:34,722 Because you know, in the original comics they're they're 1660 01:18:34,743 --> 01:18:36,171 like college roommates, aren't they? 1661 01:18:36,292 --> 01:18:40,797 reed richards and and dr doom like a lot of what makes doom 1662 01:18:40,877 --> 01:18:47,145 doom right is his like desire almost to it's two things he 1663 01:18:47,250 --> 01:18:50,381 wants to be better than reed richards and he wants to save 1664 01:18:50,442 --> 01:18:54,094 his mom's soul from mephisto right yes, that's, correct so 1665 01:18:54,173 --> 01:18:57,322 I'm also interested to see if we're going to see mephisto come 1666 01:18:57,322 --> 01:19:02,340 into play um, because he was uh , he was in iron heart. 1667 01:19:02,359 --> 01:19:04,103 Speaker 2: So they're definitely they're bringing all these 1668 01:19:04,329 --> 01:19:05,752 these plot threads together. 1669 01:19:05,752 --> 01:19:07,055 Uh, so it'll be interesting. 1670 01:19:07,055 --> 01:19:12,256 Um, I think we should bring our podcast to a close, even though 1671 01:19:12,256 --> 01:19:15,248 , like I, I feel like we could keep talking about the minutiae 1672 01:19:15,269 --> 01:19:15,930 about this movie. 1673 01:19:15,930 --> 01:19:17,154 But uh final thoughts. 1674 01:19:17,154 --> 01:19:19,702 Anthony, what are your thoughts on fantastic four, now that 1675 01:19:19,742 --> 01:19:22,738 we've regurgitated our opinions for an hour? 1676 01:19:23,570 --> 01:19:24,815 Speaker 1: It's Fantastic Four. 1677 01:19:24,815 --> 01:19:25,698 It's a solid movie. 1678 01:19:25,698 --> 01:19:31,219 If you are attentive about watching it, just know that I 1679 01:19:31,298 --> 01:19:33,884 say that it is worth a watch. 1680 01:19:33,884 --> 01:19:37,529 At least the visuals are really cool. 1681 01:19:37,529 --> 01:19:41,868 So it is one of those movies that is good to see on a large 1682 01:19:41,908 --> 01:19:42,250 screen. 1683 01:19:42,250 --> 01:19:43,613 But I had a good time. 1684 01:19:44,537 --> 01:19:46,792 Speaker 3: I concur, I don't normally. 1685 01:19:46,792 --> 01:19:50,841 You know, sometimes Jack Sparrow brings me some things 1686 01:19:50,881 --> 01:19:51,622 that I get to watch. 1687 01:19:51,622 --> 01:19:55,738 But aside from that, like this is one of those times where I 1688 01:19:55,759 --> 01:20:00,076 got to agree here, you got to go to the movies for this, go to 1689 01:20:00,095 --> 01:20:02,466 your Wednesday matinee, that's, you know know, five bucks or 1690 01:20:02,506 --> 01:20:02,750 something. 1691 01:20:02,750 --> 01:20:07,237 But I, I look it's summertime, it's hot outside. 1692 01:20:07,237 --> 01:20:11,664 I mean, I, if, if you like popcorn and you like not 1693 01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:16,000 sweating and you like fun movies , I I don't see how you can miss 1694 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:16,461 with this one. 1695 01:20:16,461 --> 01:20:20,555 I don't, I can't picture anyone going to this unless you know 1696 01:20:20,676 --> 01:20:23,622 nothing about the Fantastic Four at all. 1697 01:20:23,622 --> 01:20:27,596 And honestly, my wife knows, other than the fact that they're 1698 01:20:27,596 --> 01:20:32,492 a family, she knows very little of it and she enjoyed it, you 1699 01:20:32,853 --> 01:20:33,173 know. 1700 01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:35,119 I think anyone can really go and enjoy this movie. 1701 01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:37,774 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's very little baggage when it 1702 01:20:37,814 --> 01:20:41,742 comes to the MCU, when it comes to movie, because it takes place 1703 01:20:41,742 --> 01:20:42,783 in an entirely different world. 1704 01:20:42,783 --> 01:20:45,251 There's no other heroes that we know of on this world that 1705 01:20:45,332 --> 01:20:46,095 we've seen before. 1706 01:20:46,095 --> 01:20:49,694 Entirely new villains, entirely new concepts and, I would say, 1707 01:20:49,734 --> 01:20:54,338 an entirely new story, like the idea of the child being the 1708 01:20:54,378 --> 01:20:56,280 thing that they're trying to protect, but they're also trying 1709 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:56,829 to protect the world. 1710 01:20:56,829 --> 01:21:01,002 It's a really fascinating take on the Incredibles. 1711 01:21:01,002 --> 01:21:04,149 It's basically the incredibles, if you like. 1712 01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:05,432 The incredibles it's. 1713 01:21:05,432 --> 01:21:09,682 It's exactly the same formula, you know, like to a t, and I 1714 01:21:09,722 --> 01:21:13,238 know incredibles was based off of fantastic four, uh, but even 1715 01:21:13,278 --> 01:21:17,434 like the montage, the use of mole man as a character, uh, 1716 01:21:17,634 --> 01:21:20,199 instead of what do they call them in incredibles? 1717 01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:22,304 At the end, the Undertaker or something. 1718 01:21:23,229 --> 01:21:28,792 Yeah, jack-jack being a foil for Franklin Richards like being 1719 01:21:28,813 --> 01:21:34,996 the most powerful of the five family members, it's funny. 1720 01:21:34,996 --> 01:21:35,916 It's a nice comparison. 1721 01:21:35,916 --> 01:21:39,637 So, if you like stuff like Incredibles, which actually has 1722 01:21:39,717 --> 01:21:42,699 a very similar visual feel as well, because it's almost, you 1723 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:47,902 know, that mid-century modern look that we get all over 1724 01:21:48,202 --> 01:21:51,804 Fantastic Four, but without yeah , I'm going crazy here, but 1725 01:21:52,064 --> 01:21:53,524 let's dial it back. 1726 01:21:53,524 --> 01:21:55,086 Fantastic Four good movie. 1727 01:21:55,086 --> 01:21:56,546 Top five MCU movie. 1728 01:21:56,546 --> 01:21:58,846 I feel like I've been saying top five MCU movie for a while. 1729 01:21:58,846 --> 01:22:08,430 It's almost as if I don't actually mean it, but I really 1730 01:22:08,451 --> 01:22:09,815 did enjoy this one and, yeah, guys, definitely give it a watch 1731 01:22:09,815 --> 01:22:09,815 . 1732 01:22:09,836 --> 01:22:11,703 Thank you so much for listening to us here for our 128th episode 1733 01:22:11,703 --> 01:22:12,164 of Project Geekology. 1734 01:22:12,164 --> 01:22:13,671 If you want to check out any of our socials, be sure to check 1735 01:22:13,992 --> 01:22:14,895 down into the show notes. 1736 01:22:14,895 --> 01:22:17,988 For all of that and more, I made a recent video on YouTube, 1737 01:22:18,009 --> 01:22:22,841 guys, about the timeline of the latest Superman movie. 1738 01:22:22,841 --> 01:22:24,936 Some people liked the video. 1739 01:22:24,936 --> 01:22:27,498 It's gotten some decent numbers . 1740 01:22:27,498 --> 01:22:32,112 I find a really cool Easter egg in it and I hope you check it 1741 01:22:32,152 --> 01:22:32,231 out. 1742 01:22:32,231 --> 01:22:33,717 We'll leave that in the show notes also. 1743 01:22:33,717 --> 01:22:39,141 And for now, toodaloo guys, somebody save me. 1744 01:22:39,710 --> 01:22:42,375 Speaker 1: Tune in to next week or no? 1745 01:22:42,375 --> 01:22:44,127 Oh yeah, tune in to next week or no. 1746 01:22:44,127 --> 01:22:47,556 Oh yeah, tune in to next week for our episode on Little Town. 1747 01:22:50,271 --> 01:22:51,237 Speaker 2: Rich is dying laughing. 1748 01:22:51,237 --> 01:22:52,805 I said save somebody, save me. 1749 01:22:52,805 --> 01:22:54,895 I've been holding that the entire episode. 1750 01:22:54,989 --> 01:22:56,275 Speaker 3: I'm so angry at you. 1751 01:22:56,275 --> 01:23:01,574 An hour and a half I was like I can't wait to just I had that 1752 01:23:01,614 --> 01:23:01,895 on my phone. 1753 01:23:01,916 --> 01:23:02,618 Speaker 1: Now finish him. 1754 01:23:03,231 --> 01:23:05,257 Speaker 2: I blast that driving down the highway. 1755 01:23:05,257 --> 01:23:06,240 I'm so sorry. 1756 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,050 You know you get to say it at the end. 1757 01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:10,533 Alright, guys, have a good one. 1758 01:23:10,533 --> 01:23:13,520 Bye bye oh god, save me.