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Speaker 1: Welcome back to
Project Geekology, the show

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where we can't hear if you
scream.

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Basically, if you're screaming
on the other side of this, I

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genuinely, literally cannot hear
you, similar to how the poster

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for this movie that we're going
to be covering today is in space

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Nobody can hear you scream.

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I was actually listening to the
audiobook like novelization of

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Alien 1979 at work this week and
I kept thinking at work, no one

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can hear if I scream.

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But that's not actually true.

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There are other people there
and if I did scream while I was

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listening to that audio book, it
would have been a bad time.

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It would have been very
confusing for others.

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But anyway, all that preamble
out of the way.

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My name is Dakota.

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I am joined as always with and
joining us, as always is rich

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was it?

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Speaker 2: well, welcome back.

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You know, we uh, last week it
was just rich and I, we, we

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covered the last of us, season
one and the first video game.

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We kind of did a little bit of
a you know, comparison and a

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contrast.

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So you know, now we're, now we
got you back here to talk about

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the tall blue people the tall
blue people, or am I talking

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about the?

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Wrong.

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Sigourney weaver movie I mean,
there are aliens in that one and

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sigourney weaver is in it, so
so technically I am right, it is

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alien but and j and James
Cameron has touched this

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franchise.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, we're
talking Avatar people, Not Alien

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We've switched it up on Rich.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't seen Avatar
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Speaker 1: No, we're talking
Alien.

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Yeah, I'm really excited to
talk about Alien because this is

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a movie series that was I don't
know if it was big in my

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household growing up, but it was
one of those series.

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That's revered series, the
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the first two are the ones that
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about or we used lines from the
movies in our dialogue.

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Like I can remember, it's game
over man, which is from the

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second movie.

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Rich has no idea what I'm
talking about, but we will get

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there because, friends, we have
a very special plan for the next

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couple weeks.

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Actually, it's a little more
than a couple weeks.

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We're going to be covering each
of the Alien movies and the TV

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series that's currently airing,
in the order that they came out.

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So Alien, aliens, alien 3, and
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covenant, romulus, and then
Alien Earth.

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So we're not doing the AVP
movies as they are not canon.

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Only really the first one is
any good, I think.

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But anyway, before we jump into
our discussion of Alien, I want

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to hear a little bit about how
it went for you guys.

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Last week you said that you had
that mini, or not a mini, so

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you had a full podcast to
compare and contrast of the last

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of us, the first season, versus
the first game.

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How did that go without me?

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I haven't listened to the
episode yet.

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Speaker 2: I think we're pretty
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I mean, you know, I've I've had
a, I've had a couple episodes

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that were full episodes that I
did without you with some other

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friends.

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So you know that that's.

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It's been a while now.

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Like you know, we've been back
at it regularly.

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How did it feel, rich, without
Dakota there?

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I mean, you know, you kind of
came into the fold via Dakota

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and then you your first, you
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and not Dakota.

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Speaker 3: I had a great time.

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I mean, you know, obviously,
dac, we missed you, uh, but I,

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you know, I I had been doing I
think I mentioned earlier but I

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used to do, uh a podcast with a
buddy of mine about wrestling.

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So I'm just I've kind of I
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one of the first times or that
I consistently did a

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three-person podcast.

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I found, you know, I kind of
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the two-on-two and I will say I
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not really mention the second
game or season which is, as

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listeners know, here I do have
to share.

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I have been.

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There are sanctions placed upon
me by my podcast brethren.

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Here, where I normally will,
they'll say, hey, watch this,

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and then I watch all of it.

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But I've been told for the next
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control myself and only watch
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I think that it'll be nice for
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nobody will be like, hey, why is
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one again?

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Uh, because I'll actually be
focused on what we watch.

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Speaker 2: I'll just watch them
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no, like when we talked about
the last of us.

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You know, we just said that.

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next, the next game, or like the
next, uh, the, the next season,

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or two, but yeah, no, we, um,
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straight in the, the first game
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So, yeah, man, not not bad, but
yes, we have put sanctions and

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embargoes on rich, you know
we're just paying tariffs on it

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for for every, for every mistake
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Speaker 1: Uh, so, guys, uh,
what have you been up to this

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this past week, anthony?

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Speaker 2: we'll start with you
well, yeah, man, while, while

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you're gone, we, you know, just
like we spoke, we, we made the

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episode.

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You know, if you guys are fans
of the the last of us, go and

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give that a listen.

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Yeah, man, like I've been, I've
been playing overwatch again.

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I got the the new season just
dropped.

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You know, so, so happy we got
the beautiful you just dropped.

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You know, so, so happy we got
the beautiful.

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You know, persona 5
collaboration that's coming out.

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You know, I had to let Dakota
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You know, we, actually, I
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last podcast.

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I was like, you know, I had to
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yeah, I said, and then we also
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we're going to bring you into
the fold, even though I don't

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know, has rich played?

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Have you played any of the
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Speaker 3: I've only.

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I only know about it because
like I searched up the image,

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like I wrote the thing after
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea
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days y'all are going to join the
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And then just hopping kind of
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I'm trying to get myself one of
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you can get in retail.

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I've been saving my money, so
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So there's like public, like
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solo, like you get your house,
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just kind of randoms.

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guilds or like friends can get
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houses like kind of next to
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I want to like play with some
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Speaker 1: How's the school
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Speaker 2: Non-existent.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: Just how I like them.

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Speaker 1: Let's throw it over
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What have you been up to this
past week?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's see, the
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so we had to start go back.

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Speaker 1: You're starting up,
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Speaker 3: So we started Monday.

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We're recording on thursday.

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So I I'm the head coach of the
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which is um absurd, because I
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I don't really run, unless I'm
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So, uh, this is new for me, uh,
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time, other than getting up at
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Speaker 1: And, hypothetically,
if you were in the Nostromo,

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would you be running from the
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, I
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I mean, I'm actually going to
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couple of months and my my
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hey, well, I got to get both.

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I got to get both my acls
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Oh, man that stinks, so you
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just had knee surgery like two
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So yeah, it's I mean it's crazy
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outpatient procedure, so I'll be
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that day, uh, and then I'll just
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Would not great for a track
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But this is really what made me
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we'll move on from negative
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I said to myself if a zombie
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your acl strong enough to not
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from some of those fast fast
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And I realized my knee is in no
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there is a zombie apocalypse.

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So I need to get these.

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Uh, I need to get fixed up like
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then I will be.

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I don't know if that reference
is too old for everybody, but

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I'll be good we got it we got it
, we're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not mental
invalids um and how did uh?

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Speaker 3: but I think you had a
I mean my debbie downer week.

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I don't think I can compare to
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we like we
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compared to you.

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Yeah, we're bearing the lead.

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Speaker 1: You're the lead here
I, I, uh, I went abroad.

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I was in iceland, the land of
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Maybe you've heard of it.

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Uh, they've filmed some stuff
there, um, batman Begins, game

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of Thrones, the Secret Life of
Walter Mitty, and the list goes

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Sorry, I was just trying to
figure out a couple of things

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that were just like were
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Yeah, it's a beautiful country.

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It's a place I've been before I
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So this was me going back.

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Speaker 2: Dude, you've gone so,
so many times, I feel like I

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feel like you've gone at least
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Speaker 1: No, this is I
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Speaker 2: I feel like you went
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years later and then maybe like
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gone I've gone to europe a
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I remember you going to iceland
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I do remember 2019.

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You've got.

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I mean, how many times would
you say like it's been at least?

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Speaker 1: it's definitely been
at least three times I promise

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you, I've only been to iceland
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Speaker 2: It's a trip that I
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went when, when you were
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You know what happens.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember?

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You don't remember this era of
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This is when he was given the
red kryptonite.

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Oh, okay, so he can't remember,
so he can't remember, yeah.

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Speaker 1: You guys are
gaslighting me into, like

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vacations I never took, and now
I'm depressed because I don't

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got those memories.

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Did you hook?

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And now I'm depressed because I
don't got those memories.

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Did you go to the lava?

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You just forgot them.

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I did not do the lava show.

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I thought about it and I I kind
of wanted to.

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It did look kind of cool.

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I knew it wasn't like real lava
, like they.

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It wasn't like lava like from
the volcano, it's like just

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heated rock.

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So I was just like I will skip
it for now, but I did do the

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Blue Lagoon.

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I did.

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We saw a lot of waterfalls.

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We did like a like an iceberg
boat tour where, like we, we saw

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like the big glacier and it
like as it slowly melts,

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basically it breaks up into huge
icebergs that eventually like

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melt down into pocket-sized
little handheld ice cubes, uh,

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or not.

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Well, they can be handheld,
yeah, but like some of them are,

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um, you know, like man-sized,
some of them are like just torso

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size.

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We, uh, we ended up grabbing,
like me and my family, we found

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a really perfect piece of ice
that had a little like crevice

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in the center.

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So we took like icelandic vodka
and we were taking shots off of

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it.

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We were like holding the ice up
so like ancient ancient ice,

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potentially thousands of years
old, uh distilling our um you uh

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yeah, that was cool, you were
chasing your alcohol with

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ancient water.

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Speaker 3: I drove onto the
glacier and we got a bottle of

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water when I was there, but you
just trumped me there.

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You're like, I'm using it to
cool the vodka.

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I'm like, man, that's a better
trip than mine.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, we
weren't using it to cool the

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vodka.

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It was like a perfect little
channel.

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So we were pouring shots onto
the ice and just bringing yeah,

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it was an ice luge.

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Yeah, and it was.

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It was, uh, it was for the.

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Everyone had a good time,
except for me, with that, um,

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because I I ended up getting a
lot of like sand in my mouth,

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because this is it.

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These are ice, like ice chunks
that wash up on the beach.

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So oh my gosh, that sounds
terrible yeah, so I was, I was

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gagging, I was like why?

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Speaker 2: why do I feel like
it's it only happens to you?

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Like everybody else just gets
it clear, like clear and free,

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but you're like the one that
gets the mouthful of, I feel,

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like stuff like it happens to me
a lot too, like whenever, like

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whenever I was with you and your
family doing anything like

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everybody's always having a good
time having something and I'm

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like the one that's just getting
just the ridiculous things

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happening to me.

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Um but, yeah that, that uh did
everybody go.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it was, it was
just me, me, jen, uh uh, and my

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parents and my aunt and her
husband okay, that's cool,

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that's cool man so we're seeing
fernando over there.

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Yeah, it was a good time.

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Uh, we spent a lot of time in
reykjavik such a beautiful city,

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awesome people like.

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It's just so fun staying out
late in in a city like that

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because it literally doesn't
sleep.

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It's the weirdest thing.

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Like um, you see, you're like
walking the streets during the

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day and it's really cool.

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Lots of, lots of cool shops.

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Obviously it's it's touristy,
but it's touristy with like a

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really cool vibe, because you
don't get touristy like that

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anywhere else in the world.

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But as soon as it's like after
like 11 pm, um, the streets are

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somehow even more busy, but
they're not tourists anymore.

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It's just like the actual
iceland people and they're the

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nicest people to to hang out
with.

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It's.

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It's a really, really fun place
that's cool.

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That's cool man I have yet to go
recommend it I have yet to go.

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Speaker 2: It is on my list,
along with new zealand uh, it's

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expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.

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That's the one thing that I
want to.

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Uh, caution people listening.

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It is such an awesome trip.

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I cannot wait to go back.

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Um, I do think it's like one of
the coolest places I've ever

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been.

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Uh, just because of the
extremes, like the extreme

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jagged rocks, the, the low
valleys, the black sand on the

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beach, the fact that there's
glaciers, icebergs, volcanoes

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that are regularly erupting it's
the most extreme environment

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that I've ever been to or ever
heard of.

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But it's expensive.

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Like.

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I spent way more than I
expected to.

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Like, even just like random
stuff is just there.

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Our dollar does not go far at
all.

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It's really, it's really bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they said that
everything gets in.

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I mean, basically everything
has to be imported the land, is

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not very agriable, right, so
everything gets imported and the

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prices shoot up.

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It's a little.

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Yeah, I remember when I was
there, one of the things I was

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trying to go to sleep so I put
the Met game on.

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Obviously it was like the time
difference, right, so it's like

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one, two in the morning.

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But when it's one two in the
morning and it's dark outside

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and you're watching the Met game
, you're like, okay, stop being

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a degenerate and go to sleep.

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But when it's light outside,
you're like, well, this is

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allowed, because I was, you know
, like my body.

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My body couldn't shut down
because it wasn't dark.

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Speaker 1: Oh, what time of year
did you go?

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Speaker 3: I went in August,
okay, so yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, anthony,
that was another weird thing

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Sunsets, at least when I was
there around 9.30 pm, but

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because of the arc of like,
where the sun has to go, it

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never gets fully dark, like it
doesn't get like true

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astronomical dark, so you barely
see the stars in the sky.

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It's fully dark Like it doesn't
get like true astronomical dark

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, so we don't, you don't.

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You barely see the stars in the
sky, and we were.

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I was fortunate enough that I
did catch, like a week, aurora

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Borealis.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, we didn't
catch that one.

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Speaker 1: It was hard to see.

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Like at first we thought, oh,
it's just clouds in the sky.

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But then you like look up at
the clouds and they're like,

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wait, where did the clouds go?

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And then they're over there,
and then they're over there and

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it's just like that's not how
clouds work.

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We're looking at the aurora
borealis, but it's it was so

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light out that we couldn't see
the true colors flashing,

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basically like it needs to be
really dark for that.

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But we get, like, if you I have
uh like pictures, uh that you

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know, on the phone it it picks
up the colors a little bit

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better because it takes a longer
exposure.

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So it's green on my phone but
it's white and wispy to the

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naked eye.

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Speaker 3: But I can talk about
Iceland forever.

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That's cool, yeah, but let's
jump into Alien.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, no no, no,
yeah, let's hop into it.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's
talk a little bit about our

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experience with alien.

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I spoke a little bit about what
um it was like in my household.

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Like we had the alien
quadrility quadrilogy box set,

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the dvd box set that came out I
think in the early 2000s or

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something.

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Um, it has the first alien,
first four Alien movies and I

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remember watching them a couple
times.

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I think I only saw the third
and fourth maybe once in my life

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.

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The first two I've seen a bunch
of times.

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I think the second one is just
a little bit more fun.

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It's a little bit more of like
a classic science fiction movie

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in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second one
is classified as an action movie

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, the first one is a horror
movie yeah, so it's it.

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Speaker 1: The the series bends
genres quite often, um, and it

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kind of bounces around, uh, so
that's something that should be

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exciting for you rich, um,
because I think in the past

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you've mentioned that you're
you're into horror.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually I'm
glad to hear you say that

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because I've agreed to embark on
the journey no matter what.

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But I'm not really a horror guy
.

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So as I started to watch this,
you know I was like, because you

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know you're building and
building right, so you're an

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hour in and you're like whoa,
what?

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Like you know there's no, I
want to say it's like an hour 45

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minutes before you really get
what the threat is going to be.

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Yeah, it's a slow burn.

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You know, my my just kind of
stay on that topic of like your

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first experience, I never saw
any of the movies before I

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watched this one.

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I know I know of them, right,
I've seen like clips of stuff.

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I've seen like I had seen like
the alien, like like drooling

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over somebody type stuff.

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I think I may have seen like
scenes of part two or of aliens,

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but not the first one.

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And I think my first exposure
was actually this is a throwback

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mad magazine.

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I loved mad magazine and I
think one of the first issues I

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bought was like an alien parody,
so I learned about alien

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through that.

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And then my second exposure was
space balls oh, naturally yeah

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because at the end of space
balls, so like there's the

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chestburster scene, yeah, I, I
don't.

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I I assume that most people go
into this movie maybe not

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knowing that scene, right.

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So I, I I was like, oh no, oh
no, I know it's gonna.

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I saw space balls.

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I'm like don't, don't get near
him.

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Uh, so those were my, those
were like actually my only

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interaction.

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I mean, I knew sigurd niviver
was in it, right, like that much

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, and I did expect it to be more
action.

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I was kind of surprised, so
like that's what happened, like

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48 minutes in whatever I'm going
, hey, uh, there's not a lot of

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action here.

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This is a horror movie.

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Speaker 1: I'm like this is a
slow introduction of the villain

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, you know, or of the monster
and even even like the first

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five minutes is just shots of
like within the ship and

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nobody's woken up yet but it's
just it's.

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It's ridley scott literally
aura farming as he turns on the

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lights in the ship.

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You know, it's just like, yeah,
this is a cool shot, film it.

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Yeah, this is a cool shot film
it and it's five minutes of that

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and I get.

447
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I gotta give it to him because
a lot of the shots are like

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gorgeous.

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You know, like the I I would
never think to show a computer

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screen from the reflection of an
unused helmet or like an unworn

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helmet, like it's it.

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That's like one of the first
shots we see and I'm just like

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that's, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't, I
would have never thought to do

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that you know, like I like that
you say that because I mean you

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think that this movie was was
made in 1979.

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You know it came out in 1979.

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Like, what they were able to
accomplish, you know, with shots

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like that and with the, the
effects, just it blows my mind

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was what they were able to
accomplish.

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Like you know, this was what a
couple of years after Star Wars,

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and I still, and I feel like
there were a lot more impressive

463
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visuals with this one than,
like you know, maybe Star Wars

464
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Right, but this one is this,
it's a, it's a different movie,

465
00:20:59,765 --> 00:21:04,123
so they're trying to accomplish
something else, but they do a

466
00:21:04,163 --> 00:21:07,988
really good job at like putting
you into outer space and

467
00:21:08,608 --> 00:21:10,652
somewhere that's away from Earth
.

468
00:21:10,652 --> 00:21:12,214
It's believable.

469
00:21:12,615 --> 00:21:18,111
Speaker 1: Yeah, anthony, what
is your first memories of the

470
00:21:18,172 --> 00:21:18,833
Alien franchise?

471
00:21:19,339 --> 00:21:22,711
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember
seeing it years ago.

472
00:21:22,711 --> 00:21:26,147
I don't remember it being one
of those.

473
00:21:26,147 --> 00:21:30,184
It wasn't like a household
thing for me, but it was

474
00:21:30,204 --> 00:21:34,480
definitely one of those movies
that my dad grew up with and so,

475
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,547
like a lot of these movies that
he grew up with, you know, star

476
00:21:37,547 --> 00:21:42,644
wars, alien, uh, you know just
indiana jones, all that stuff.

477
00:21:42,644 --> 00:21:46,800
You know I, he, like you know I
watched it and yeah, I remember

478
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,784
watching alien.

479
00:21:47,784 --> 00:21:51,457
I remember it being, you know I
, yeah, I remember, like you

480
00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:54,204
know, as a kid, you know it's a,
the first one's a little bit

481
00:21:54,645 --> 00:21:57,460
more boring because there's a
lot of talking, but then, like,

482
00:21:57,539 --> 00:22:02,548
once you get to that towards the
end, where the, where the, the

483
00:22:03,328 --> 00:22:07,234
is is like being shown a little
bit more than than that's where,

484
00:22:07,234 --> 00:22:10,048
like you know the edge, you
know like you're on the edge of

485
00:22:10,088 --> 00:22:10,651
your seat.

486
00:22:11,173 --> 00:22:14,743
It's, you know, I remember, yeah
, that memory kind of being a

487
00:22:14,824 --> 00:22:19,292
little bit um, a little bit of
afraid because it looks so weird

488
00:22:19,292 --> 00:22:19,292
.

489
00:22:19,292 --> 00:22:21,182
You know, like you don't see
any eyes.

490
00:22:21,182 --> 00:22:24,807
I specifically remember the
mouth within the mouth.

491
00:22:24,807 --> 00:22:28,631
That's always a visual that
I'll remember, you know, of the

492
00:22:28,770 --> 00:22:31,714
alien, you know, like, when it
opens its mouth, there's like

493
00:22:31,775 --> 00:22:33,076
another mouth on the inside.

494
00:22:33,076 --> 00:22:36,182
I'll never forget that and I
remember that as a kid, that

495
00:22:36,263 --> 00:22:40,711
visual of like the mouth, like
just shooting into, you know,

496
00:22:40,751 --> 00:22:41,532
buddy's face.

497
00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know
buddy's face.

498
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,984
Yeah, with alien, uh, I've kind
of gone like back and forth and

499
00:22:48,984 --> 00:22:50,647
back and forth as far as, like,
do I even like this movie?

500
00:22:50,647 --> 00:22:53,413
Not that I don't respect it, I
I do, I definitely do.

501
00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:57,595
And I remember like being kind
of scared of it when I was a kid

502
00:22:57,595 --> 00:23:01,364
, but it wasn't like a
terrifying movie, um, but as an

503
00:23:01,403 --> 00:23:06,952
adult I think I experienced the
existential dread more than I

504
00:23:07,193 --> 00:23:08,015
did when I was a kid.

505
00:23:08,381 --> 00:23:13,104
The monster itself was scary,
yes, but the impending doom that

506
00:23:13,104 --> 00:23:18,314
you're feeling throughout the
entire film is really impressive

507
00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:18,314
.

508
00:23:18,380 --> 00:23:19,967
It's almost like Lovecraftian.

509
00:23:19,967 --> 00:23:30,544
You know, like, uh, there's a
certain ominous uh tone that, um

510
00:23:30,544 --> 00:23:32,068
, as soon as they basically land
on that planet, or like when

511
00:23:32,108 --> 00:23:34,255
they get the distress call, or
when they, um, enter that alien

512
00:23:34,335 --> 00:23:39,189
ship, and it's just a vast
cavern of like bones on the wall

513
00:23:39,189 --> 00:23:41,760
and it's just, it's the most
bizarre thing you've ever seen.

514
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,886
Which, by the way, coolest sets
ever.

515
00:23:43,886 --> 00:23:45,490
I don't know how they did that.

516
00:23:45,490 --> 00:23:50,069
Those are sets, you know, like
some of it is matte paintings

517
00:23:50,109 --> 00:23:50,491
and everything.

518
00:23:50,491 --> 00:23:55,031
But like there are like crazy,
crazy sets that they built for

519
00:23:55,051 --> 00:23:58,089
this and I'm just like, how did
they even think of this?

520
00:23:58,089 --> 00:24:04,670
But yeah, that that cosmic
horror, like, almost like a

521
00:24:04,769 --> 00:24:07,295
mental, like your mind's trying
to wrap its head around

522
00:24:07,335 --> 00:24:11,181
something that's much bigger
than you can imagine, and that's

523
00:24:11,181 --> 00:24:15,048
the kind of like Lovecraftian
thing that Ridley Scott was

524
00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:15,588
trying to.

525
00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:18,733
I'm assuming that Ridley Scott
was trying to like latch onto,

526
00:24:18,794 --> 00:24:23,001
because, yeah, you feel so
helpless watching it yeah, I

527
00:24:23,041 --> 00:24:25,446
agree, I know I said the respect
.

528
00:24:25,907 --> 00:24:27,893
Speaker 3: You're not sure if
you like it, but you respect it.

529
00:24:27,893 --> 00:24:34,589
Like I can see the craft, the
craft and acknowledge the level

530
00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:39,465
of difficulty and the the I mean
ridley scott here is the best

531
00:24:39,486 --> 00:24:40,028
of his craft.

532
00:24:40,028 --> 00:24:43,900
Like he right, like at the time
period with lack of cgi and

533
00:24:43,921 --> 00:24:49,231
everything, like he did a great
job of creating he world build.

534
00:24:49,231 --> 00:24:52,144
Like he spent a lot of time
world building before we got to

535
00:24:52,204 --> 00:24:55,821
see anything you know, and that
doom builds, so the pacing is

536
00:24:55,922 --> 00:24:56,343
great.

537
00:24:56,343 --> 00:24:58,768
You know, like he does a really
great job with that.

538
00:24:58,768 --> 00:25:02,702
The shots are inventive, um,
but I don't know if I love it,

539
00:25:03,003 --> 00:25:03,423
but I can.

540
00:25:03,463 --> 00:25:07,031
Yeah but I do like I hate the
characters in great gatsby, I

541
00:25:07,051 --> 00:25:09,545
teach it every year almost well,
I used to teach it every year.

542
00:25:09,545 --> 00:25:15,060
I I hate read it almost, but
it's meticulously crafted and I

543
00:25:15,101 --> 00:25:19,410
can acknowledge how good, how
well it's done while you can

544
00:25:19,549 --> 00:25:20,030
explain.

545
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:23,103
Speaker 1: You can understand
that this is actually an amazing

546
00:25:23,103 --> 00:25:28,151
story or an amazing uh work of
art, while also hating the

547
00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:33,007
insides of it um yeah, no, I, I
totally get that, and so what I

548
00:25:33,047 --> 00:25:36,618
what I was trying to say earlier
is I've had this like wow, I

549
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,421
really love this movie.

550
00:25:37,721 --> 00:25:41,770
Wow, it's not actually as good,
or it's overblown, you know, or

551
00:25:41,810 --> 00:25:43,161
it's not actually that scary.

552
00:25:43,161 --> 00:25:47,090
But coming at it as a, you know
, early 30s person who hasn't

553
00:25:47,111 --> 00:25:51,170
seen it in a long time, I
appreciate it so much more

554
00:25:51,230 --> 00:25:53,959
because I'm just I'm I'm just
here trying to understand the

555
00:25:54,019 --> 00:25:57,887
artistic intent of like what is
being uh shown to me, and I

556
00:25:58,008 --> 00:26:01,181
think I, you know, I'm in a
position where I can see that

557
00:26:01,221 --> 00:26:04,205
now I can pick up, uh, what
release god is putting down.

558
00:26:04,205 --> 00:26:08,773
And he's putting down a lot of
like uh, just existential dread

559
00:26:08,854 --> 00:26:12,228
and and I, I love how they, how
he handled that.

560
00:26:12,228 --> 00:26:17,621
And you mentioned, rich, that
there are like 45 minutes before

561
00:26:17,621 --> 00:26:22,670
we even like get to see the
like the face hugger, you know,

562
00:26:23,431 --> 00:26:27,426
and that's our first like real
uh glimpse of the alien.

563
00:26:27,426 --> 00:26:29,963
Then there's the chest bursar
scene and the actual like

564
00:26:30,164 --> 00:26:33,231
xenomorph that's actually they
never call it a xenomorph in

565
00:26:33,251 --> 00:26:36,266
this movie do you guys have an
understanding of the life cycle

566
00:26:36,487 --> 00:26:38,711
of this species from this movie?

567
00:26:39,173 --> 00:26:40,903
Speaker 3: I was trying to
understand that personally,

568
00:26:40,943 --> 00:26:45,032
because the latcher right you go
like we get the latcher, who

569
00:26:45,421 --> 00:26:50,040
presumably now like implants a
seed right, but like when the

570
00:26:50,281 --> 00:26:53,490
burster comes out, I would think
the burster would go to latch

571
00:26:53,549 --> 00:26:54,392
mode and it doesn't.

572
00:26:54,940 --> 00:27:00,329
Speaker 1: Right, I don't have a
solid answer, but the way that

573
00:27:00,470 --> 00:27:19,319
I understand it is if the face
hugger, If the facehugger like

574
00:27:19,339 --> 00:27:20,580
the latcher that you said, if
that latched onto, say, a

575
00:27:20,601 --> 00:27:22,021
primate, a gorilla, the
chestburster and eventual alien

576
00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:23,462
would look different, because
it's taking our DNA Xenomorph.

577
00:27:23,462 --> 00:27:23,923
Okay, it's in the name.

578
00:27:23,923 --> 00:27:24,763
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, okay,
yeah, yeah.

579
00:27:24,763 --> 00:27:26,566
So we do see variations.

580
00:27:26,566 --> 00:27:30,228
I don't want to like spoil too
much, but we do see variations

581
00:27:30,548 --> 00:27:33,109
of the Xenomorph in future films
.

582
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:37,673
Speaker 3: Would you compare
this to the brood almost from

583
00:27:37,794 --> 00:27:41,957
X-Men then when, like the, I'm
sorry, maybe I'm going too deep

584
00:27:42,017 --> 00:27:43,017
in X-Men comic book stuff.

585
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,702
Speaker 1: But the brood,
basically, were like the

586
00:27:53,722 --> 00:27:55,147
Xenomorphs and when they took
over the X x-men, like it,

587
00:27:55,188 --> 00:27:56,211
looked like wolverine, but a
xenomorph.

588
00:27:56,211 --> 00:27:56,491
You know?

589
00:27:56,491 --> 00:27:57,314
Yeah, no, I know what you're
talking about.

590
00:27:57,314 --> 00:27:58,778
Um, yeah, I guess that would be
the comic book comparison.

591
00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,021
Okay, anthony, we haven't heard
from you in a while.

592
00:28:00,021 --> 00:28:01,385
What's what's going through
your mind right now?

593
00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:04,122
Speaker 2: yeah, so I was kind
of dancing around the name

594
00:28:04,162 --> 00:28:07,826
because they they actually't say
Xenomorph in this one, but yeah

595
00:28:07,826 --> 00:28:07,826
.

596
00:28:07,866 --> 00:28:11,813
Speaker 1: Yes, do they ever
mention it in future films?

597
00:28:12,012 --> 00:28:15,465
Speaker 2: Yes, they must Second
one, they must Second movie

598
00:28:15,486 --> 00:28:22,424
yeah, so yeah, no, I agree, it's
also like coming into this

599
00:28:22,484 --> 00:28:25,730
movie knowing that you're
watching it to discuss.

600
00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:29,560
It also changes the lens of how
you watch it too.

601
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,830
And so, yeah, like you do
notice a little bit more of like

602
00:28:34,830 --> 00:28:36,334
the minor details, like you.

603
00:28:36,334 --> 00:28:37,461
You talked about the sets.

604
00:28:37,461 --> 00:28:40,810
The sets were very impressive,
even.

605
00:28:40,810 --> 00:28:45,663
Even I was even impressed with
what they were able to do with

606
00:28:45,683 --> 00:28:49,001
the xenomorph and I was actually
analyzing it because you know

607
00:28:49,202 --> 00:28:52,451
it has like spines out of the
back and like I kind of look at

608
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:55,546
it and be like you know, what
did they use to to make that

609
00:28:55,645 --> 00:28:55,886
right?

610
00:28:56,347 --> 00:29:00,163
You know, I try to analyze to
see if I can notice any, any

611
00:29:00,222 --> 00:29:03,029
like you know, maybe household
item that they might have used

612
00:29:03,109 --> 00:29:05,943
right, like some tubing from,
from a vacuum cleaner or

613
00:29:05,983 --> 00:29:08,840
whatever, but it's, it all looks
impressive.

614
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,903
It doesn't look cheap.

615
00:29:09,903 --> 00:29:16,114
You know they really do put a
lot of money into this, but you

616
00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:18,926
know, kind of you know, and
we've been talking about you

617
00:29:18,946 --> 00:29:21,500
know really like what they've
accomplished in a little bit of

618
00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:22,501
like the future stuff.

619
00:29:22,501 --> 00:29:27,851
But you know, this film has a
pretty like solid group of like

620
00:29:28,592 --> 00:29:30,233
like a casting, you know.

621
00:29:30,233 --> 00:29:34,729
I mean you know it's helmed by
sigourney weaver, which you know

622
00:29:34,729 --> 00:29:36,833
she was 29 years old in that
movie.

623
00:29:36,833 --> 00:29:40,166
Isn't that crazy like thinking
that, like she was 29 years old

624
00:29:40,247 --> 00:29:40,888
in this movie.

625
00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:44,584
Speaker 1: Um yeah, and like she
looks it she actually looks

626
00:29:44,743 --> 00:29:45,365
young like.

627
00:29:45,405 --> 00:29:48,463
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll I'll
like look back at old films and

628
00:29:48,503 --> 00:29:51,497
I'll look to see how old they
were and they'll they'll be like

629
00:29:51,497 --> 00:29:53,683
, yeah, there were, there were
25 in this movie, but they look

630
00:29:53,703 --> 00:29:55,347
like they were almost 40, you
know.

631
00:29:55,347 --> 00:29:56,632
But she actually looked young.

632
00:29:56,779 --> 00:29:59,729
Speaker 1: You know, I was
actually surprised it's crazy

633
00:29:59,789 --> 00:30:03,801
how young john hurt looked in
this yes, yeah, because most of

634
00:30:03,862 --> 00:30:07,897
the john hurt performances that
I've seen have been a much older

635
00:30:07,897 --> 00:30:11,728
john hurt right but yeah, he,
there's a number of really,

636
00:30:11,907 --> 00:30:13,551
really incredible actors in this
movie.

637
00:30:14,012 --> 00:30:17,186
Speaker 2: Um, I'd say, ian home
looked maybe a little younger

638
00:30:17,267 --> 00:30:22,461
than he did in fellowship, like
maybe a lot a lot younger yeah,

639
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,146
I know no but he still looked
older, though, though.

640
00:30:25,227 --> 00:30:25,868
Speaker 1: No, he definitely was
older.

641
00:30:28,019 --> 00:30:30,690
Speaker 2: You could tell he was
maybe touching 50.

642
00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:32,906
He was definitely middle-aged,
so yeah.

643
00:30:32,906 --> 00:30:36,588
I mean you could tell he was
definitely older.

644
00:30:36,588 --> 00:30:45,132
I mean obviously he didn't look
as old as Fellowship, but he

645
00:30:45,152 --> 00:30:45,794
was getting there.

646
00:30:45,794 --> 00:30:49,261
You could tell he was getting
up there in age john hurt.

647
00:30:49,301 --> 00:30:53,150
Speaker 3: I mean oh yeah, john
hurt, actually surprised me and

648
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:56,403
I know him best as the voice of
the dragon in merlin.

649
00:30:56,403 --> 00:31:00,109
So I I was like, wait, is that
the merlin guy?

650
00:31:00,109 --> 00:31:02,273
Uh, that was exciting.

651
00:31:02,273 --> 00:31:05,686
And then, um, I don't know the
actor's name, I forget the

652
00:31:05,707 --> 00:31:06,147
character.

653
00:31:06,147 --> 00:31:09,181
Uh, so it's the other dark
haired gentleman.

654
00:31:09,181 --> 00:31:10,564
He was in the show big love.

655
00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:15,000
He played like a very sleazy,
basically like the head of the

656
00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:17,766
mormons uh out there in uh utah.

657
00:31:17,786 --> 00:31:18,907
Speaker 1: He plays the
character brett.

658
00:31:18,907 --> 00:31:19,809
Yes, um.

659
00:31:20,151 --> 00:31:23,222
Speaker 3: So I he's, I don't
know his name, yeah he's kind of

660
00:31:23,222 --> 00:31:27,613
not a great guy, you know, in
the movie and yeah, I could buy

661
00:31:27,653 --> 00:31:30,964
it like it's just like he, he's
like a character actor, I think,

662
00:31:30,964 --> 00:31:34,653
who like just plays like kind
of a a not great guy all the

663
00:31:34,692 --> 00:31:36,345
time and he does it well.

664
00:31:36,345 --> 00:31:38,251
So I was excited by the casting
.

665
00:31:38,251 --> 00:31:41,161
I I honestly, when they all
were on screen I was like, hey,

666
00:31:41,561 --> 00:31:44,867
I know almost all these actors
you know, so that was actually a

667
00:31:44,867 --> 00:31:48,580
really cool thing to see and
see, uh, one of their earlier

668
00:31:48,641 --> 00:31:51,951
works yeah, um, everyone did
fantastically.

669
00:31:52,553 --> 00:31:54,778
Speaker 1: Jen even commented
like I don't understand.

670
00:31:54,778 --> 00:31:56,483
People don't look like this
anymore.

671
00:31:56,483 --> 00:32:01,058
Like you're looking at some of
the cast and uh, so the other

672
00:32:01,118 --> 00:32:04,385
female lambert she was
specifically talking about her

673
00:32:04,646 --> 00:32:08,173
and she's just like I've never
seen anyone who looks like that

674
00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:11,205
and, it's true, like they just
look like they're from the

675
00:32:11,246 --> 00:32:11,586
seventies.

676
00:32:11,586 --> 00:32:12,328
You know it's it's a.

677
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:16,924
It's a really bizarre thing that
, uh, I think everyone just has,

678
00:32:16,924 --> 00:32:21,575
I um, like iPhone faces now,
where everyone's used to looking

679
00:32:21,575 --> 00:32:23,426
at a screen, so our faces are
just a little bit different.

680
00:32:23,426 --> 00:32:29,221
It's the blue light morphing us
, the blue light, yeah, oh, what

681
00:32:29,221 --> 00:32:29,262
I?

682
00:32:29,262 --> 00:32:29,403
What I?

683
00:32:29,403 --> 00:32:31,346
I understand what I was trying
to say earlier.

684
00:32:31,346 --> 00:32:36,942
Basically, it's the, the, the
use of the actual villain takes

685
00:32:36,982 --> 00:32:43,233
a while and they do that to kind
of put you at a state of unease

686
00:32:43,233 --> 00:32:46,644
, because if they show you their
hands at the beginning, the

687
00:32:46,684 --> 00:32:48,407
villain is no longer scary by
the end.

688
00:32:48,407 --> 00:32:51,673
You know they want that
build-up, they want you to

689
00:32:51,752 --> 00:32:55,470
emotionally feel uneasy when
you're going into.

690
00:32:55,470 --> 00:32:57,818
You know when you're finally
seeing the face on it, when

691
00:32:57,838 --> 00:33:00,925
you're finally seeing the, the
chest burster and then finally

692
00:33:00,986 --> 00:33:01,086
it's.

693
00:33:01,086 --> 00:33:05,382
You know final form, um, and
they knew their limitations.

694
00:33:05,382 --> 00:33:09,192
You know, like, this is a guy
in a rubber suit, but they

695
00:33:09,211 --> 00:33:12,406
didn't want it to look like
doctor who you know, like they,

696
00:33:12,487 --> 00:33:14,731
they wanted it to or god.

697
00:33:14,751 --> 00:33:16,182
Speaker 2: They wanted it to
look like a.

698
00:33:16,722 --> 00:33:19,829
Speaker 1: They didn't want it
to look like godzilla, so they

699
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:23,423
they kept the creature in
shadows and only showed very

700
00:33:23,605 --> 00:33:27,993
sparse glimpses at it, just
enough to freak you the heck out

701
00:33:27,993 --> 00:33:27,993
.

702
00:33:27,993 --> 00:33:34,189
And they do a pretty good job
of it for a 1979 film yeah, yeah

703
00:33:34,189 --> 00:33:39,323
, I like the, the utilization of
darkness, it it definitely it.

704
00:33:39,423 --> 00:33:42,209
Speaker 2: it definitely works
well with this type of movie and

705
00:33:42,209 --> 00:33:46,364
I mean honestly that they have
a game called alien isolation

706
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:50,569
and it kind of uses like the
similar you know you've got the

707
00:33:50,651 --> 00:33:54,883
xenomorph, you're trying to
avoid it and it's, you know

708
00:33:55,104 --> 00:33:58,332
it'll pop up on you at any time
pretty much like this one.

709
00:33:58,332 --> 00:34:02,769
You know you're not guns
blazing, you know, like some of

710
00:34:02,809 --> 00:34:06,970
the later ones, but yeah, this
one is this one.

711
00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:11,844
They did well because, I mean,
you're right, you said that they

712
00:34:11,844 --> 00:34:15,452
knew their limitations and they
slotted well into that.

713
00:34:15,452 --> 00:34:19,648
You know, and even though they
did show, like you know, a full

714
00:34:19,708 --> 00:34:24,242
body xenomorph, it with the
camera work, it didn't look

715
00:34:24,503 --> 00:34:28,536
corny no, it doesn't, and and
they're only showing.

716
00:34:29,077 --> 00:34:30,722
Speaker 1: I love the extreme
close-ups too.

717
00:34:30,722 --> 00:34:32,891
There's a lot of extreme
close-ups on people's faces in

718
00:34:32,913 --> 00:34:36,503
this movie, um, to show either
fear or just to like, give you a

719
00:34:36,503 --> 00:34:38,768
unique glimpse at the person or
character.

720
00:34:39,650 --> 00:34:43,487
And uh, they do a lot of extreme
close-ups of like the, the

721
00:34:43,588 --> 00:34:48,802
sleek shine, of like the dome on
the xenomorph's head, or just

722
00:34:48,842 --> 00:34:52,083
like it's slowly opening its
mouth and like strobe lighting

723
00:34:53,027 --> 00:34:56,407
to like, because strobe lighting
is uneasy to look at.

724
00:34:56,407 --> 00:34:57,824
You know like it's hard to.

725
00:34:57,824 --> 00:34:59,268
You know see movement.

726
00:34:59,268 --> 00:35:05,644
And when you eliminate movement
with a strobe light, that also

727
00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:08,159
helps heighten, like the, the
unease of everything.

728
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,509
Speaker 3: So the only thing I
thought and and this is probably

729
00:35:12,509 --> 00:35:17,425
my space balls, this is my, my
space balls like background when

730
00:35:17,425 --> 00:35:20,652
the z, when the chestburster
comes out, I just the way it

731
00:35:20,672 --> 00:35:24,385
kind of like skitters off screen
it it just reminded me of in

732
00:35:24,405 --> 00:35:28,612
Spaceballs when the chestburster
jumps into song and dance on

733
00:35:28,652 --> 00:35:29,514
the diner top.

734
00:35:29,514 --> 00:35:35,027
So I giggled when I saw him
skitter because I was like I

735
00:35:35,047 --> 00:35:38,639
just in my head heard like hello
my baby, hello my darling, you

736
00:35:38,659 --> 00:35:41,188
know, like that same exact scene
from Spaceballs.

737
00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:44,547
Speaker 2: So that's the only
time that I felt like the

738
00:35:44,606 --> 00:35:48,485
xenomorph took me out of it,
like just that little skittering

739
00:35:48,485 --> 00:35:52,847
you know, thinking back like to
the 1970s and like kind of what

740
00:35:52,847 --> 00:35:56,842
they did with like horror films
back then, you know it was

741
00:35:56,882 --> 00:36:00,829
really hard to make like a
serious one that didn't look

742
00:36:00,889 --> 00:36:04,704
corny, you know, and like the
acting wasn't like over the top,

743
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:06,849
like you know, like, know, like
oh you know, like.

744
00:36:07,251 --> 00:36:11,489
It didn't look corny Like, but
this movie they didn't show fear

745
00:36:11,489 --> 00:36:14,045
in a way that looked corny, it
looked genuine.

746
00:36:14,045 --> 00:36:17,844
And so like I really have to
like put it up to like the

747
00:36:18,025 --> 00:36:23,893
actors for really like acting
very well and making, making a

748
00:36:23,952 --> 00:36:27,518
film that just set off this
whole series, that we're still

749
00:36:27,577 --> 00:36:31,306
getting stuff today yeah, yeah,
um, and it's, it's kind of

750
00:36:31,327 --> 00:36:34,878
bigger than ever right now
because, uh, we just had a very

751
00:36:34,918 --> 00:36:37,925
successful alien movie in
theaters, um, and it was a very

752
00:36:37,965 --> 00:36:38,827
good one like I was.

753
00:36:39,429 --> 00:36:44,829
Speaker 1: I'm blown away by how
well um romulus was and I've

754
00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:46,735
heard very good things about the
first.

755
00:36:46,735 --> 00:36:49,884
I think there's four episodes
now of alien earth, so I'm

756
00:36:49,923 --> 00:36:54,878
excited to to dive into that
soon and I'm hoping to to start

757
00:36:54,898 --> 00:36:57,704
making like timeline content
with you know, I want to make

758
00:36:57,764 --> 00:37:02,313
individual short uh video
content for the alien series.

759
00:37:02,313 --> 00:37:04,865
Um, slowly working my way up to
something a little bit bigger,

760
00:37:05,126 --> 00:37:10,903
but yeah, so you mentioned
anthony that uh, you were like

761
00:37:11,726 --> 00:37:13,811
were you specifically talking
about the chestburster scene

762
00:37:13,911 --> 00:37:16,206
that everyone was like super,
you could tell like the fear was

763
00:37:16,206 --> 00:37:19,458
like real or not, not
specifically the the

764
00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:24,106
chestburster scene, but like
there's that, and then the build

765
00:37:24,106 --> 00:37:28,934
up to when the xenomorph um
this scene right here yes, so

766
00:37:28,954 --> 00:37:30,199
behind anthony, uh it's.

767
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,405
Speaker 2: It's a scene where,
uh, lambert the, the other

768
00:37:33,445 --> 00:37:38,141
female, is confronted by the
xenomorph and she's unable to

769
00:37:38,181 --> 00:37:41,855
get around it or do anything and
she and she's crying, but like,

770
00:37:41,855 --> 00:37:45,543
like it looks genuine, like it
doesn't look fake, like I don't

771
00:37:45,563 --> 00:37:50,170
know, know, like I've seen some
of, like you know, older horror

772
00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:54,523
movies that are from around the
same era and a lot of them are,

773
00:37:54,543 --> 00:37:59,027
like, really corny, but like
this one, I felt like it broke

774
00:37:59,527 --> 00:38:02,072
through like some stereotypes
when it came to horror.

775
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:06,806
I mean it was also partly a
sci-fi movie but I mean, like, I

776
00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:09,400
mean the main element of it is
horror.

777
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,824
You know, they're building up,
like you said, there's that

778
00:38:11,925 --> 00:38:16,273
existential dread that builds up
throughout the film until you

779
00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:17,315
get to the climax.

780
00:38:17,315 --> 00:38:20,103
And yeah, man, dude, it's.

781
00:38:20,103 --> 00:38:24,833
It might not be the one that
most people talk about.

782
00:38:24,833 --> 00:38:27,007
A lot of people talk about the
second one.

783
00:38:27,007 --> 00:38:30,846
That's the one that, like you
probably saw most clips of rich

784
00:38:31,306 --> 00:38:35,481
was the second one, but I like,
like dakota said you, you have

785
00:38:35,501 --> 00:38:39,009
to respect it, you have to
appreciate what this film did

786
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:40,452
can dakota?

787
00:38:40,472 --> 00:38:41,213
Speaker 3: you're a timeline guy
.

788
00:38:41,213 --> 00:38:44,748
When did aliens come out, like
year wise?

789
00:38:44,748 --> 00:38:47,092
Yeah, because I'm trying to
figure out like I remember

790
00:38:47,132 --> 00:38:48,543
seeing the toys so like.

791
00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:50,932
That's essentially why I
thought this was an action

792
00:38:51,172 --> 00:38:54,463
franchise, because I remember
like the action figures of like

793
00:38:54,523 --> 00:38:57,612
riley and like the xenomorphs
and stuff were a big deal in toy

794
00:38:57,612 --> 00:39:02,570
stores when I was younger so it
um, it took a quite a quite a

795
00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:04,594
while for a sequel to come out.

796
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,568
Speaker 1: It came out in 1986,
this one came out in 79.

797
00:39:07,668 --> 00:39:11,324
Speaker 3: So uh like so maybe
seven, eight, eight years later,

798
00:39:11,324 --> 00:39:14,052
so maybe it was three, three
when three came out.

799
00:39:14,052 --> 00:39:15,342
I think that's when I saw that.

800
00:39:15,342 --> 00:39:17,708
I remember seeing the toys in
stores that would make sense.

801
00:39:17,909 --> 00:39:20,782
Speaker 1: Yeah, the three, I
think was 91 that makes more

802
00:39:20,802 --> 00:39:20,961
sense.

803
00:39:21,021 --> 00:39:21,782
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I would
have been.

804
00:39:21,782 --> 00:39:23,405
I would have been nine okay.

805
00:39:23,806 --> 00:39:27,612
Speaker 1: So I want to go back
to the chestburster scene, uh,

806
00:39:27,652 --> 00:39:34,788
because that has, uh, a pretty
iconic piece of like filming

807
00:39:34,887 --> 00:39:35,929
lore behind it.

808
00:39:35,929 --> 00:39:38,780
Basically, the cast knew
something was going to happen,

809
00:39:39,382 --> 00:39:40,704
but they did not know what.

810
00:39:40,704 --> 00:39:46,114
And they they understood that,
like, basically they were told

811
00:39:46,721 --> 00:39:48,985
all right, just just eat your
food, have a good time.

812
00:39:48,985 --> 00:39:52,813
And something's going to happen
to John Hurt's character.

813
00:39:52,813 --> 00:39:55,507
John Hurt obviously knew what
needed to happen.

814
00:39:55,507 --> 00:39:58,159
You know, he acted his heart
out with that.

815
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,507
It was a disgusting performance
of him, like just coughing up

816
00:40:01,568 --> 00:40:03,913
his food and shoving food in his
face.

817
00:40:03,913 --> 00:40:09,237
But everyone else had no idea
that there was going to be an

818
00:40:09,398 --> 00:40:12,829
alien that bursts out of John
Hurt's chest, that's so cool

819
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:17,172
which is such an insane thing to
commit to doing.

820
00:40:17,192 --> 00:40:20,909
That's amazing and also to put
onto your cast.

821
00:40:20,909 --> 00:40:25,827
But they all, it was perfect,
they kept in character.

822
00:40:25,827 --> 00:40:29,882
Because I'm trying to think
like if I was present, obviously

823
00:40:29,882 --> 00:40:32,728
I would know that this is a
film and that we're doing

824
00:40:32,769 --> 00:40:36,889
special effects, but I would be
like wait what.

825
00:40:38,963 --> 00:40:42,871
Like because you could see the
moment there's like blood

826
00:40:42,931 --> 00:40:46,398
spurting out of his chest before
the chestburster even pops up.

827
00:40:46,398 --> 00:40:48,463
You see Sigourney weaver just
like kind of like take a step

828
00:40:48,503 --> 00:40:52,351
back, like what you know, like
she didn't realize that there

829
00:40:52,391 --> 00:40:55,286
was something underneath his,
you know, underneath his shirt

830
00:40:55,327 --> 00:40:55,728
or whatever.

831
00:40:56,188 --> 00:41:00,306
So I think that that's such a
cool uh bit of uh like

832
00:41:00,347 --> 00:41:04,177
filmmaking lore, because I like
it when you do that it colors

833
00:41:04,257 --> 00:41:07,630
the whole, the whole filmmaking
behind it and, like the, it

834
00:41:07,751 --> 00:41:11,425
makes it actually really scary,
because these are people

835
00:41:11,786 --> 00:41:15,239
actually terrified because they
have no idea what's coming yeah,

836
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,112
yeah, I, I love it when they do
stuff like that, when they

837
00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:23,003
withhold like certain pieces of
information from from.

838
00:41:23,164 --> 00:41:26,210
Speaker 2: Like you know, you're
trying to get like a good scene

839
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:32,744
and I feel, I feel like that
scene was perfect for nobody

840
00:41:32,945 --> 00:41:35,931
else to know what's going to
happen, except for you know the

841
00:41:35,971 --> 00:41:38,061
subject, that that happened.

842
00:41:38,061 --> 00:41:39,384
You know john hurt.

843
00:41:39,384 --> 00:41:42,929
So, yeah, yeah, I remember that
.

844
00:41:42,929 --> 00:41:45,293
Actually I didn't it.

845
00:41:45,293 --> 00:41:47,043
That's been a piece of
information.

846
00:41:47,043 --> 00:41:50,043
I sat in the back of my mind
until when, until you actually

847
00:41:50,103 --> 00:41:53,391
brought it up, I was like, oh my
gosh, I remember that dude.

848
00:41:53,391 --> 00:41:57,106
Yeah, that's awesome yeah yeah,
I completely, I man.

849
00:41:57,166 --> 00:41:59,351
Speaker 1: Now I kind of want to
go back and watch that scene,

850
00:41:59,731 --> 00:42:03,367
like now that I remember this
yeah, because if you, if you

851
00:42:03,407 --> 00:42:06,280
watch it now, that you know that
these people didn't know what

852
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,331
was happening, you could tell,
tell genuine surprise is on

853
00:42:11,371 --> 00:42:11,791
their face.

854
00:42:11,791 --> 00:42:17,088
It's really cool Going into
Spaceballs a couple years later.

855
00:42:17,088 --> 00:42:18,592
When was Spaceballs?

856
00:42:18,592 --> 00:42:22,208
I think it was the same year or
the year after Return of the

857
00:42:22,228 --> 00:42:22,750
Jedi.

858
00:42:23,271 --> 00:42:24,032
Speaker 3: I think it's 83.

859
00:42:24,581 --> 00:42:26,820
Speaker 1: Okay, so the same
year as Return of the Jedi.

860
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:28,094
And there's this scene at the
end where I think it's 83.

861
00:42:28,094 --> 00:42:28,804
Okay, so same year as return of
the jedi.

862
00:42:28,804 --> 00:42:31,514
And there's the scene at the
end where I think it's john hurt

863
00:42:31,514 --> 00:42:35,556
in a diner yes and, and he's
just, you know, he's having a

864
00:42:35,597 --> 00:42:38,186
good time, they're having a
laugh and all of a sudden, he,

865
00:42:38,405 --> 00:42:40,371
he's doing the same exact thing
again.

866
00:42:40,371 --> 00:42:43,143
He's, and he's actually saying
not again, not again.

867
00:42:43,204 --> 00:42:43,625
Speaker 3: It's it.

868
00:42:43,625 --> 00:42:44,507
You know what.

869
00:42:44,507 --> 00:42:47,914
I'm so glad you said it was
john hurt, because when I see it

870
00:42:47,914 --> 00:42:49,222
happening right, I'm going.

871
00:42:49,222 --> 00:42:54,432
Man, like this is not just like
kind of familiar, like it looks

872
00:42:54,432 --> 00:42:58,632
like the same guy and I now I
just love mel brooks, by the way

873
00:42:58,632 --> 00:42:58,632
.

874
00:42:58,632 --> 00:42:59,114
I'll.

875
00:42:59,114 --> 00:43:01,000
I'll correct before our
audience does.

876
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,543
Space balls was actually 87 87.

877
00:43:03,603 --> 00:43:05,628
Speaker 1: Okay, very good,
thank you for checking that.

878
00:43:05,628 --> 00:43:11,762
What did we think of ian home
as the android like and and like

879
00:43:11,762 --> 00:43:12,121
his?

880
00:43:12,121 --> 00:43:16,990
Because you can argue that he's
actually the villain of the

881
00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:19,193
movie, because it's.

882
00:43:19,193 --> 00:43:25,407
It becomes apparent that this
wasn't a random stop that they

883
00:43:25,449 --> 00:43:26,489
made on their trip.

884
00:43:26,489 --> 00:43:31,702
You know, someone programmed
them to go here, uh, and he very

885
00:43:31,702 --> 00:43:36,333
, very much, you know, nurtured
the aliens growth throughout the

886
00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:40,244
entire film until, you know, to
a point where, like, obviously,

887
00:43:40,244 --> 00:43:43,811
like he was trying to keep the
alien alive, like he was trying

888
00:43:43,871 --> 00:43:45,465
to, you know, bring it back to
earth.

889
00:43:45,465 --> 00:43:46,170
What?

890
00:43:46,170 --> 00:43:49,905
At what point, rich, did you
realize that ian holm was the

891
00:43:49,925 --> 00:43:51,509
bad guy or a bad guy?

892
00:43:51,528 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he is
the bad guy, but yeah well, it's

893
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,771
funny because so when he, when
he breaks the protocol to, you

894
00:43:58,791 --> 00:43:59,753
know, let the guy come on.

895
00:43:59,753 --> 00:44:02,925
I think probably, you know,
obviously probably a little

896
00:44:02,965 --> 00:44:04,967
problematic for me is that going
into it.

897
00:44:04,967 --> 00:44:08,375
I knew that, like, the aliens
are bad, right.

898
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:11,769
Speaker 1: So when I see like oh
, let's get it Not fun aliens

899
00:44:11,809 --> 00:44:12,050
yeah.

900
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:13,385
Speaker 3: You know, let's get
him on the ship.

901
00:44:13,385 --> 00:44:16,226
I'm thinking like, what are you
doing?

902
00:44:16,226 --> 00:44:18,719
Like I forget protocol, like
how about survival?

903
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,612
Like you guys don't really seem
to be a cohesive team, right,

904
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,125
they don't like seem to have
real, true, like love and care

905
00:44:31,144 --> 00:44:31,505
for each other.

906
00:44:31,505 --> 00:44:32,268
So, no, I'm like what are you
doing?

907
00:44:32,268 --> 00:44:33,916
Like scientifically, like as a
you know why would you do that?

908
00:44:33,916 --> 00:44:37,965
So I didn't figure it out, I
didn't get it until sigourney

909
00:44:38,005 --> 00:44:40,469
weaver gets it that he's bad,
right.

910
00:44:40,929 --> 00:44:45,545
And then, yeah, the, the what
I'll call is the milk teardrop,

911
00:44:45,744 --> 00:44:48,880
right, is like forming and I'm
looking and I'm going that's a

912
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,143
really weird effect.

913
00:44:50,143 --> 00:44:51,487
I'm like, why is it white?

914
00:44:51,487 --> 00:44:54,621
And I thought that it just was
me, like I, it's such a maze,

915
00:44:54,701 --> 00:44:58,628
it's such an amazing scene,
because I ignored it away until,

916
00:44:58,628 --> 00:45:02,481
like he splits open and I think
, like my dog had come into the

917
00:45:02,501 --> 00:45:03,242
room or something.

918
00:45:03,242 --> 00:45:04,284
So I'm like, wait, what?

919
00:45:04,284 --> 00:45:06,447
And I had to like rewind and I
was like, what?

920
00:45:06,447 --> 00:45:07,947
He's a robot.

921
00:45:07,947 --> 00:45:09,829
Uh, that blew my mind.

922
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:14,215
Uh, I won't lie, like I had no
idea, didn't see it coming at

923
00:45:14,436 --> 00:45:14,576
all.

924
00:45:14,996 --> 00:45:17,929
Speaker 2: And then I was like,
oh, so that's why he's the worst

925
00:45:17,929 --> 00:45:21,643
, you know, that's why he's so
cold and calculating and you

926
00:45:21,682 --> 00:45:24,769
know like there's just something
nasty about like that milky

927
00:45:24,849 --> 00:45:28,043
substance that was like pulling
out, like I feel like if it was

928
00:45:28,083 --> 00:45:31,711
like like oily, like if it was
black, it wouldn't, it would

929
00:45:31,731 --> 00:45:35,226
have been like whatever, but
like that white substance just

930
00:45:35,286 --> 00:45:36,431
made it look worse.

931
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,246
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's
something inherently I think

932
00:45:39,507 --> 00:45:42,505
kind of off putting about that
and I was thinking about it.

933
00:45:42,505 --> 00:45:45,389
I was like, if he's a robot,
why isn't it oil or grease?

934
00:45:45,389 --> 00:45:47,420
You know why isn't it dark
about it?

935
00:45:47,420 --> 00:45:48,706
I was like, if he's a robot,
why isn't it oil or grease?

936
00:45:48,706 --> 00:45:49,369
You know why isn't it dark?

937
00:45:49,369 --> 00:45:50,876
And I and now that you say that
, I think I would have been like

938
00:45:50,876 --> 00:45:52,742
it would have been a clue that
I would have picked up on too

939
00:45:52,782 --> 00:45:53,123
quickly.

940
00:45:53,123 --> 00:45:57,532
But because it was that milky,
you know substance, you're like

941
00:45:57,572 --> 00:45:58,460
what is that?

942
00:45:58,460 --> 00:46:02,427
And it's that's enough to hold
you off for a couple more

943
00:46:02,467 --> 00:46:04,451
minutes, like that's brilliant
to me.

944
00:46:04,451 --> 00:46:05,393
That was brilliant.

945
00:46:05,393 --> 00:46:09,018
His hair gel's dripping oh no,
he's he.

946
00:46:09,018 --> 00:46:13,367
He accidentally booked a uh uh
speech at the wrong place and

947
00:46:13,407 --> 00:46:17,753
now he's oh, man, oh, but yeah,
it was.

948
00:46:17,994 --> 00:46:21,005
It was really very well done.

949
00:46:21,005 --> 00:46:25,672
I yeah kudos to like I didn't
see it coming and then when you

950
00:46:25,713 --> 00:46:28,849
go back, I think the best types
of surprises.

951
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:32,248
The foreshadowing was right
there, but you miss it, you know

952
00:46:32,248 --> 00:46:35,621
, and he, it was so good did you
get an opportunity to watch

953
00:46:35,641 --> 00:46:37,547
this like a second time, or you
just?

954
00:46:37,568 --> 00:46:38,110
Speaker 1: it was just the one?

955
00:46:38,130 --> 00:46:41,023
Speaker 3: time, I watched it
twice okay the second time.

956
00:46:41,784 --> 00:46:45,349
Speaker 1: Did you see all of
the instances where he was

957
00:46:45,449 --> 00:46:49,556
purposely yes, um like, instead
of keeping them outside for

958
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:50,021
quarantine?

959
00:46:50,061 --> 00:46:53,449
Speaker 3: he's just like nope,
it's like yeah it was like, oh

960
00:46:53,509 --> 00:47:00,222
my, like it was that it feels
rewarding, almost, to watch it

961
00:47:00,342 --> 00:47:05,009
and see it again and see how
well it's done and and you could

962
00:47:05,009 --> 00:47:10,081
see, like you know, yeah, like
on that that second watch, like

963
00:47:10,242 --> 00:47:14,936
every instance that he was like
going against the grain of the

964
00:47:14,976 --> 00:47:15,336
crew.

965
00:47:15,737 --> 00:47:18,423
Speaker 2: You know, at that
point you're like hmm, like why?

966
00:47:18,423 --> 00:47:18,864
Like what?

967
00:47:18,864 --> 00:47:19,126
What?

968
00:47:19,126 --> 00:47:21,010
What's this guy like why?

969
00:47:21,010 --> 00:47:21,931
Why does he care?

970
00:47:21,931 --> 00:47:26,068
You know, and then you you see
that you know he, he got those

971
00:47:26,248 --> 00:47:30,427
orders from the company he kept
saying we haven't finished

972
00:47:30,467 --> 00:47:34,528
collating, and I'm just like,
yeah, that's a very normal thing

973
00:47:34,528 --> 00:47:35,371
for a person to say.

974
00:47:37,942 --> 00:47:40,811
Like nobody on that ship would
say anything like that but him.

975
00:47:40,811 --> 00:47:45,045
But yeah, no, and you know it
is.

976
00:47:45,045 --> 00:47:51,362
I think it was such a smart
move Because you go into the

977
00:47:51,382 --> 00:47:54,601
movie and I'm pretty sure, like
this was rich, you go into the

978
00:47:54,641 --> 00:47:57,849
movie knowing that there's going
to be this alien creature right

979
00:47:57,849 --> 00:48:01,023
in there, but you're not
expecting there to be like a

980
00:48:01,103 --> 00:48:05,172
secondary antagonist, right Did
not see that coming.

981
00:48:05,693 --> 00:48:09,742
You know, yeah, like he, pretty
much yeah, and Dakota Dakota's

982
00:48:09,822 --> 00:48:13,463
right in a way, like you could
say that he is the villain of

983
00:48:13,563 --> 00:48:18,731
the story because he made it so
this creature was able to fully

984
00:48:18,811 --> 00:48:21,215
form and almost kill everybody.

985
00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:24,728
Speaker 1: So, rich, you
mentioned earlier that nobody

986
00:48:24,768 --> 00:48:27,887
had any love for each other, and
that's, that's on purpose.

987
00:48:27,887 --> 00:48:30,548
You know, these are just people
doing a job.

988
00:48:30,548 --> 00:48:36,471
They're, they're tasked to ship
or from one planet to another.

989
00:48:36,471 --> 00:48:38,101
You know they're going back to
earth at this point.

990
00:48:38,521 --> 00:48:42,250
But the actual ship name,
nostromo, has some actual

991
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:46,105
meaning, um, and when you take
that into consideration, the

992
00:48:46,144 --> 00:48:47,588
whole plot makes a lot more
sense.

993
00:48:47,588 --> 00:48:52,666
So the the nostromo is named
after, uh, there's a book by

994
00:48:52,706 --> 00:48:59,340
joseph conrad from like the
early 19th century or sorry, the

995
00:48:59,340 --> 00:49:02,487
early 20th century, it was
early 1900s where it's the name

996
00:49:02,706 --> 00:49:09,686
of the ship and that ship in
that book, or yeah, in that book

997
00:49:09,686 --> 00:49:14,268
, it basically signifies like
it's a story of exploitation of

998
00:49:14,307 --> 00:49:14,829
labor force.

999
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:18,682
And that's exactly what the
company because they don't

1000
00:49:18,702 --> 00:49:21,416
really call it wayland yutani in
this movie, they, they just

1001
00:49:21,436 --> 00:49:22,079
call it the company.

1002
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:28,851
They are exploiting the, the
labor force, for whatever reason

1003
00:49:28,851 --> 00:49:33,302
to, so that they can gain
access to the secrets of this

1004
00:49:33,422 --> 00:49:33,704
alien.

1005
00:49:33,704 --> 00:49:38,753
So that's that's whyley Scott
names their ship the Nostromo,

1006
00:49:40,081 --> 00:49:46,260
because it puts the emphasis on
corporate capitalist greed and

1007
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:52,199
each of the crew members has
moments of thinking for

1008
00:49:52,219 --> 00:49:55,288
themselves, not necessarily in
the movie, in the original

1009
00:49:55,327 --> 00:49:59,724
drafts of this movie and the
novelization, which fleshes out

1010
00:49:59,744 --> 00:50:00,688
the characters quite a bit more.

1011
00:50:02,081 --> 00:50:05,545
You see a lot of the selfishness
of each of the cast.

1012
00:50:05,545 --> 00:50:09,742
You see a little bit of it when
Parker's like we should get a

1013
00:50:09,784 --> 00:50:12,106
bonus, we need a full share.

1014
00:50:12,106 --> 00:50:18,248
But there's a lot more of that
in the novel, or the

1015
00:50:18,288 --> 00:50:20,672
novelization of it, from pretty
much everyone.

1016
00:50:20,672 --> 00:50:21,179
I don't.

1017
00:50:21,179 --> 00:50:24,722
I think Ripley isn't really
included in that, she's the only

1018
00:50:24,722 --> 00:50:28,242
one just trying to do her job,
but I just think that's kind of

1019
00:50:28,282 --> 00:50:29,585
like a cool little background.

1020
00:50:29,585 --> 00:50:35,375
Detail is the Nostromo is named
after a Joseph Conrad book from

1021
00:50:35,375 --> 00:50:40,005
like the early 1900s and it
means corporate greed basically,

1022
00:50:40,005 --> 00:50:42,135
and that's what we we see
happening throughout this whole

1023
00:50:42,155 --> 00:50:42,396
movie.

1024
00:50:42,396 --> 00:50:44,663
This whole, this whole
adventure is stemmed by

1025
00:50:44,702 --> 00:50:45,364
corporate greed.

1026
00:50:45,364 --> 00:50:46,748
It's really that's.

1027
00:50:47,289 --> 00:50:49,402
Speaker 3: That's a really like
nice easter egg there that I

1028
00:50:49,442 --> 00:50:52,869
didn't um pick up on, but, um,
you got me, you got me searching

1029
00:50:52,869 --> 00:50:56,121
it now and I'm just, uh, I'm
gonna have to go read some more

1030
00:50:56,141 --> 00:50:57,005
joseph conrad.

1031
00:50:57,005 --> 00:50:59,456
I mean, I thought heart of
darkness was it, but I think, uh

1032
00:50:59,456 --> 00:51:02,764
, they wouldn't have to dive in
here heart of darkness is not

1033
00:51:02,786 --> 00:51:03,967
where joseph conrad ends.

1034
00:51:03,987 --> 00:51:06,260
Speaker 1: My friend, I love
this movie.

1035
00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:11,327
I, I think, coming back to it
now with fresh eyes and just

1036
00:51:11,447 --> 00:51:16,074
eager to you know, experience
the whole series instead of just

1037
00:51:16,074 --> 00:51:19,262
bite-sized portions of it,
because each of the films is

1038
00:51:20,083 --> 00:51:26,454
fairly separate in uh, in tone
and story, because you have the,

1039
00:51:26,454 --> 00:51:29,326
the original four, with
Sigourney Weaver in it, but then

1040
00:51:29,326 --> 00:51:29,786
the.

1041
00:51:29,786 --> 00:51:33,262
There's two prequels that don't
have Sigourney Weaver in it at

1042
00:51:33,382 --> 00:51:35,108
all, and they're more.

1043
00:51:35,108 --> 00:51:37,121
I don't even know how to
describe it.

1044
00:51:37,121 --> 00:51:42,896
It's more like an explanation
of, like, the origins of uh,

1045
00:51:43,056 --> 00:51:46,105
faith and the universe and
everything, and it's like uh,

1046
00:51:46,144 --> 00:51:47,126
have you seen Prometheus Anthony
?

1047
00:51:47,588 --> 00:51:51,123
long time ago yeah, I mean I'm
excited to get to that one,

1048
00:51:51,182 --> 00:51:55,851
because I think a lot of people
wrote it off as being like, uh,

1049
00:51:55,931 --> 00:51:59,347
trying way too hard, but I think
it's probably the smartest film

1050
00:51:59,347 --> 00:51:59,949
in the series.

1051
00:51:59,949 --> 00:52:01,737
Um, I think it's just.

1052
00:52:01,737 --> 00:52:05,264
I think it's really good we're
coming up on an hour.

1053
00:52:05,264 --> 00:52:09,233
We can keep going for a little
bit more yeah, yeah, we can.

1054
00:52:09,253 --> 00:52:11,601
Speaker 2: We can, uh, go back
to the good old days.

1055
00:52:12,704 --> 00:52:15,889
Speaker 1: You know, hit a
two-hour podcast, two and a half

1056
00:52:15,889 --> 00:52:22,684
so another thing that I thought
was interesting is, um, the.

1057
00:52:22,684 --> 00:52:25,751
The film is very vague on a
bunch of stuff and it's

1058
00:52:25,811 --> 00:52:27,382
purposely vague on a bunch of
stuff.

1059
00:52:27,382 --> 00:52:31,115
Uh, we mentioned they didn't
give a name to the, the alien

1060
00:52:31,315 --> 00:52:32,300
species in this movie.

1061
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,590
That's something that comes
later in the series.

1062
00:52:35,590 --> 00:52:37,967
They didn't even give Ripley.

1063
00:52:37,967 --> 00:52:41,389
They didn't give Sigourney
Weaver a first name in this

1064
00:52:41,429 --> 00:52:41,650
movie.

1065
00:52:41,650 --> 00:52:43,005
She's just Ripley.

1066
00:52:44,181 --> 00:52:48,402
Everyone in this movie only has
a last name Kane, parker,

1067
00:52:48,463 --> 00:52:51,630
lambert, brett, dallas, ripley.

1068
00:52:51,630 --> 00:52:56,311
They all have only a last name
and a designation on the ship.

1069
00:52:56,311 --> 00:52:59,088
So it's basically like
everything is stripped down to

1070
00:52:59,148 --> 00:53:04,744
its base stuff that you need to
know basically what they do on

1071
00:53:04,764 --> 00:53:08,947
this ship, why they're here and
what they're going to call each

1072
00:53:09,007 --> 00:53:09,128
other.

1073
00:53:09,128 --> 00:53:11,402
So I think that's pretty cool.

1074
00:53:11,402 --> 00:53:15,730
We don't learn that her name is
Ellen Ripley until later.

1075
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:18,108
But yeah, and the same with the
company.

1076
00:53:18,961 --> 00:53:22,960
They don't name the company by
verbiage in this movie.

1077
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,989
It's on some background, easter
.

1078
00:53:25,989 --> 00:53:28,068
There's some Easter eggs of the
name of the company,

1079
00:53:28,862 --> 00:53:31,690
weyland-yutani in the background
.

1080
00:53:31,690 --> 00:53:34,065
So there's a lot of it.

1081
00:53:34,065 --> 00:53:37,021
You don't even know what time
period, uh, this film takes

1082
00:53:37,061 --> 00:53:38,103
place and it doesn't give you a
date.

1083
00:53:38,103 --> 00:53:41,721
You only learn like when this
movie takes place in future

1084
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,304
movies because they can backdate
it.

1085
00:53:43,304 --> 00:53:49,201
It's, it's the whole idea of
give them as little as possible

1086
00:53:49,983 --> 00:53:53,748
but just enough so that they
understand, uh, their setting.

1087
00:53:53,748 --> 00:53:57,702
Basically, and it just, it,
just it's meant to disorient you

1088
00:53:57,702 --> 00:54:01,731
and I think they did a good job
because I'm I haven't been

1089
00:54:01,771 --> 00:54:01,952
right.

1090
00:54:01,992 --> 00:54:04,625
Speaker 2: Ever since I watched
this, I've been disoriented

1091
00:54:05,166 --> 00:54:08,733
because I was like I need to
continue so that I can get on

1092
00:54:08,773 --> 00:54:09,481
the timeline.

1093
00:54:09,481 --> 00:54:13,929
We know, we know that you're
timeline obsessed and so this

1094
00:54:13,989 --> 00:54:17,760
movie, with a lack of its time,
is just throwing you through a

1095
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,505
loop man it really?

1096
00:54:19,644 --> 00:54:21,047
Speaker 1: yeah, no, but it's,
it's.

1097
00:54:21,047 --> 00:54:23,581
I think it's an easy ish
timeline once they start like

1098
00:54:23,621 --> 00:54:24,382
actually giving you dates.

1099
00:54:24,382 --> 00:54:26,288
It's just no dates in this one.

1100
00:54:26,288 --> 00:54:32,300
But, um, guys, I think we shall
call it here, let's.

1101
00:54:32,300 --> 00:54:38,128
Let's give some last thoughts
on Alien and get all riled up

1102
00:54:38,228 --> 00:54:38,929
for Aliens.

1103
00:54:38,929 --> 00:54:40,652
Right, riley Next week.

1104
00:54:40,851 --> 00:54:43,594
Speaker 3: Riley, ripley, ripley
, sorry.

1105
00:54:44,016 --> 00:54:45,161
Speaker 1: That's OK, Rich.

1106
00:54:45,161 --> 00:54:45,682
What did you?

1107
00:54:45,682 --> 00:54:48,110
What are your final thoughts on
this first Alien film?

1108
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,387
Speaker 3: So I think I went in
with expectations of Alien 3 and

1109
00:54:54,387 --> 00:54:56,130
got a very different experience
.

1110
00:54:56,130 --> 00:55:00,764
I as usual my first watch I was
, like you know, this is a

1111
00:55:00,784 --> 00:55:01,405
horror movie.

1112
00:55:01,405 --> 00:55:04,760
The end of the movie is what I
really liked, as it started to

1113
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,295
ramp up, probably from from
chest bursting on, like I was, I

1114
00:55:10,295 --> 00:55:10,936
was invested.

1115
00:55:10,936 --> 00:55:16,371
I'm really excited to explore
the rest of the franchise and if

1116
00:55:16,371 --> 00:55:22,168
this is a building block that I
needed to digest in order to

1117
00:55:22,849 --> 00:55:27,099
enjoy the franchise as it
evolves, then I'm happy I

1118
00:55:27,139 --> 00:55:27,699
engaged in it.

1119
00:55:28,322 --> 00:55:32,188
If this was a standalone movie,
just this and nothing else was

1120
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:33,952
after it, I'd say it was good.

1121
00:55:33,952 --> 00:55:35,014
It was really well done.

1122
00:55:35,014 --> 00:55:39,347
I can acknowledge the craft,
but it's not my type of movie.

1123
00:55:39,347 --> 00:55:43,782
So I'm you know, I'm a little
like I know about the alien

1124
00:55:43,822 --> 00:55:47,432
versus predator movies and, like
man, I love predator, like that

1125
00:55:47,432 --> 00:55:47,934
guy.

1126
00:55:47,934 --> 00:55:52,967
So I was expecting kind of like
predator-ish stuff with

1127
00:55:52,987 --> 00:55:54,751
sigourney weaver and that's not
what I got here.

1128
00:55:54,751 --> 00:55:56,320
But that's my own fault.

1129
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,989
So definitely recommended to
watch something that was

1130
00:56:02,030 --> 00:56:06,384
exceptionally well done in a
time with limited resources um,

1131
00:56:06,824 --> 00:56:08,248
before I hand it over to Anthony
.

1132
00:56:08,648 --> 00:56:10,813
Speaker 1: Uh, I, I like what
you said there.

1133
00:56:10,813 --> 00:56:14,853
Specifically, this is a
building block to what comes

1134
00:56:14,932 --> 00:56:15,193
next.

1135
00:56:15,193 --> 00:56:19,724
I think you need this movie to
feel any sort of weight for the

1136
00:56:19,764 --> 00:56:25,804
character of ripley um and a
fear of the alien, you know so.

1137
00:56:25,804 --> 00:56:29,173
So keep that moving forward,
because it is an important film,

1138
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:33,063
not just for like film history,
but in this franchise, like

1139
00:56:33,143 --> 00:56:34,547
it's, it is the.

1140
00:56:34,547 --> 00:56:36,811
It is a new hope for this
series.

1141
00:56:36,811 --> 00:56:39,804
Um, anthony, go ahead yeah, man
it.

1142
00:56:40,344 --> 00:56:42,568
Speaker 2: It'd been a long time
since I had seen this movie.

1143
00:56:42,568 --> 00:56:47,402
I would say that I've seen
aliens more than I've seen the

1144
00:56:47,664 --> 00:56:52,269
original alien, but I have seen
the first two more than I've

1145
00:56:52,329 --> 00:56:57,315
seen, uh, three and four, so it
was nice to go back to this.

1146
00:56:57,315 --> 00:57:02,090
I always like it when, when we
pick something, that kind of has

1147
00:57:02,090 --> 00:57:05,003
me go back to it because I
don't know if I would have gone

1148
00:57:05,043 --> 00:57:06,567
back to this movie anytime soon.

1149
00:57:06,567 --> 00:57:10,402
Not because I hate it, just
because you know, just like I

1150
00:57:10,663 --> 00:57:10,862
really.

1151
00:57:10,862 --> 00:57:14,893
You know it hasn't been on my
radar, you know, to watch the

1152
00:57:14,954 --> 00:57:20,664
first alien movie, but I'm glad
that we did and I really do feel

1153
00:57:20,664 --> 00:57:22,188
like coming into this.

1154
00:57:22,188 --> 00:57:28,744
I I did notice a bit more and I
did feel a lot more of an

1155
00:57:28,784 --> 00:57:32,632
appreciation for it, for the
time period that it came out and

1156
00:57:32,632 --> 00:57:33,644
for what they were able to
accomplish.

1157
00:57:33,644 --> 00:57:34,873
And, yeah, that the fact that
this is it came out and for what

1158
00:57:34,873 --> 00:57:36,782
they were able to accomplish,
and, yeah, that the the fact

1159
00:57:36,822 --> 00:57:40,530
that this is one of the
foundations for what we have

1160
00:57:40,590 --> 00:57:40,931
today.

1161
00:57:41,632 --> 00:57:42,885
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked
this movie.

1162
00:57:42,885 --> 00:57:46,740
I I'm happy that we like like
Anthony said, revisited it

1163
00:57:46,802 --> 00:57:51,452
because I'm able to appreciate
it with a new eyes and a new

1164
00:57:51,539 --> 00:57:53,909
like perspective on art and
everything and filmmaking.

1165
00:57:53,909 --> 00:57:57,965
So that's awesome and I'm
excited to jump into future

1166
00:57:58,005 --> 00:57:59,007
films in this franchise.

1167
00:57:59,007 --> 00:58:02,998
Uh, next week yes, next week.

1168
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:08,405
Aliens sounds good episode 132
aliens with an s at the end.

1169
00:58:08,405 --> 00:58:11,909
Uh guys, thank you so much for
listening to us here for our

1170
00:58:12,050 --> 00:58:15,775
131st episode of Project
Geekology.

1171
00:58:15,775 --> 00:58:22,583
We appreciate all the screams
that we couldn't hear, but we

1172
00:58:22,643 --> 00:58:27,333
know it was scary at times
listening to three white men.

1173
00:58:27,333 --> 00:58:32,548
But I'm going to end this now,
I'm just going to ramble.

1174
00:58:32,548 --> 00:58:35,101
Guys, if you want to check out
any of our socials, be sure to

1175
00:58:35,121 --> 00:58:39,650
click into our show notes down
below and click something.

1176
00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:41,554
You'll find something new.

1177
00:58:41,554 --> 00:58:42,898
Have a good one.

1178
00:58:43,858 --> 00:58:48,610
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and don't
forget to give us Dakota.

1179
00:58:48,610 --> 00:58:49,492
It's your turn.

1180
00:58:49,492 --> 00:58:55,112
There's something that we
require of our listeners.

1181
00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:02,465
Speaker 1: Not require, but we
ask of, we ask, uh, we ask with

1182
00:59:02,485 --> 00:59:06,972
the flamethrower to the back of
you, um now, uh, yeah, so

1183
00:59:07,594 --> 00:59:11,045
there's something that we we
usually like uh receiving here

1184
00:59:11,347 --> 00:59:13,572
on this podcast, a, a favor of
sorts.

1185
00:59:13,572 --> 00:59:15,878
It's kind of like a it's a
five-star juicy review,

1186
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:21,331
specifically, I didn't know
where the favor was going.

1187
00:59:21,351 --> 00:59:25,184
Speaker 3: I was like whoa it's
just a review.

1188
00:59:25,786 --> 00:59:28,550
Speaker 1: Five stars make it
juicy like ian holmes.

1189
00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:33,744
Uh like milky, milky innards
yeah, I was looking at that same

1190
00:59:33,744 --> 00:59:40,001
exact thing, or perfect, you
know crunchy or or crunchy, like

1191
00:59:40,001 --> 00:59:45,351
, like the, the shell of the
alien and the chestburster, you

1192
00:59:45,411 --> 00:59:47,724
know, the exoskeleton,
everything it's.

1193
00:59:47,724 --> 00:59:48,206
It's a.

1194
00:59:48,206 --> 00:59:50,742
It's one of those movies you
get, you get a little juice, you

1195
00:59:50,742 --> 00:59:51,284
get a little crunch.

1196
00:59:51,284 --> 00:59:53,059
Give us a five star review,
people.

1197
00:59:53,059 --> 00:59:55,389
That's, that's what we're
trying to beg for you.