WEBVTT 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:05.291 Welcome back to Project Geekology, the show where we can't hear if you scream. 00:00:05.291 --> 00:00:16.121 Basically, if you're screaming on the other side of this, I genuinely, literally cannot hear you, similar to how the poster for this movie that we're going to be covering today is in space. 00:00:16.121 --> 00:00:17.347 Nobody can hear you scream. 00:00:17.347 --> 00:00:29.452 I was actually listening to the audiobook like novelization of Alien 1979 at work this week and I kept thinking at work, no one can hear if I scream. 00:00:29.452 --> 00:00:31.004 But that's not actually true. 00:00:31.004 --> 00:00:36.045 There are other people there and if I did scream while I was listening to that audio book, it would have been a bad time. 00:00:36.045 --> 00:00:37.966 It would have been very confusing for others. 00:00:37.966 --> 00:00:40.548 But anyway, all that preamble out of the way. 00:00:40.548 --> 00:00:41.331 My name is Dakota. 00:00:41.331 --> 00:00:49.924 I am joined as always with and joining us, as always is rich was it? 00:00:49.966 --> 00:00:50.988 well, welcome back. 00:00:50.988 --> 00:00:59.207 You know, we uh, last week it was just rich and I, we, we covered the last of us, season one and the first video game. 00:00:59.207 --> 00:01:04.043 We kind of did a little bit of a you know, comparison and a contrast. 00:01:04.043 --> 00:01:11.932 So you know, now we're, now we got you back here to talk about the tall blue people the tall blue people, or am I talking about the? 00:01:11.932 --> 00:01:12.233 Wrong. 00:01:12.340 --> 00:01:25.146 Sigourney weaver movie I mean, there are aliens in that one and sigourney weaver is in it, so so technically I am right, it is alien but and j and James Cameron has touched this franchise. 00:01:25.846 --> 00:01:30.371 So, yeah, we're talking Avatar people, Not Alien. 00:01:30.371 --> 00:01:31.653 We've switched it up on Rich. 00:01:31.733 --> 00:01:34.135 He hasn't seen Avatar either. 00:01:34.195 --> 00:01:34.936 No, we're talking Alien. 00:01:34.936 --> 00:01:44.405 Yeah, I'm really excited to talk about Alien because this is a movie series that was I don't know if it was big in my household growing up, but it was one of those series. 00:01:44.405 --> 00:02:01.593 That's revered series, the original quadrilogy, but really the first two are the ones that were at least regularly spoken about or we used lines from the movies in our dialogue. 00:02:01.593 --> 00:02:05.450 Like I can remember, it's game over man, which is from the second movie. 00:02:05.450 --> 00:02:13.270 Rich has no idea what I'm talking about, but we will get there because, friends, we have a very special plan for the next couple weeks. 00:02:13.270 --> 00:02:15.026 Actually, it's a little more than a couple weeks. 00:02:15.281 --> 00:02:21.778 We're going to be covering each of the Alien movies and the TV series that's currently airing, in the order that they came out. 00:02:21.778 --> 00:02:29.311 So Alien, aliens, alien 3, and so on Resurrection, prometheus, covenant, romulus, and then Alien Earth. 00:02:29.311 --> 00:02:34.551 So we're not doing the AVP movies as they are not canon. 00:02:34.551 --> 00:02:37.168 Only really the first one is any good, I think. 00:02:37.168 --> 00:02:43.706 But anyway, before we jump into our discussion of Alien, I want to hear a little bit about how it went for you guys. 00:02:43.706 --> 00:02:53.463 Last week you said that you had that mini, or not a mini, so you had a full podcast to compare and contrast of the last of us, the first season, versus the first game. 00:02:53.463 --> 00:02:55.088 How did that go without me? 00:02:55.088 --> 00:02:56.681 I haven't listened to the episode yet. 00:02:56.983 --> 00:02:57.885 I think we're pretty good. 00:02:57.885 --> 00:03:06.219 I mean, you know, I've I've had a, I've had a couple episodes that were full episodes that I did without you with some other friends. 00:03:06.219 --> 00:03:07.664 So you know that that's. 00:03:07.664 --> 00:03:09.449 It's been a while now. 00:03:09.449 --> 00:03:11.347 Like you know, we've been back at it regularly. 00:03:11.347 --> 00:03:14.568 How did it feel, rich, without Dakota there? 00:03:14.568 --> 00:03:23.832 I mean, you know, you kind of came into the fold via Dakota and then you your first, you know, duo episode was with me and not Dakota. 00:03:24.540 --> 00:03:25.269 I had a great time. 00:03:25.269 --> 00:03:34.604 I mean, you know, obviously, dac, we missed you, uh, but I, you know, I I had been doing I think I mentioned earlier but I used to do, uh a podcast with a buddy of mine about wrestling. 00:03:34.604 --> 00:03:42.471 So I'm just I've kind of I think actually with you guys was one of the first times or that I consistently did a three-person podcast. 00:03:42.471 --> 00:03:57.544 I found, you know, I kind of fell back into the old habits of the two-on-two and I will say I proudly think that I managed to not really mention the second game or season which is, as listeners know, here I do have to share. 00:03:57.544 --> 00:03:59.042 I have been. 00:03:59.302 --> 00:04:03.326 There are sanctions placed upon me by my podcast brethren. 00:04:03.326 --> 00:04:08.066 Here, where I normally will, they'll say, hey, watch this, and then I watch all of it. 00:04:08.066 --> 00:04:16.291 But I've been told for the next couple of weeks I have to control myself and only watch one thing at a time. 00:04:16.291 --> 00:04:17.154 So it should be. 00:04:17.154 --> 00:04:22.651 I think that it'll be nice for the next couple weeks that nobody will be like, hey, why is this guy talking about the next one again? 00:04:22.651 --> 00:04:25.923 Uh, because I'll actually be focused on what we watch. 00:04:25.963 --> 00:04:30.961 I'll just watch them like five times yeah, yeah, no, no, like when we talked about the last of us. 00:04:30.961 --> 00:04:32.586 You know, we just said that. 00:04:32.586 --> 00:04:48.523 You know that there's stuff that was set up for like the next, the next game, or like the next, uh, the, the next season, or two, but yeah, no, we, um, we, we, we pretty much kept it straight in the, the first game in the first season. 00:04:48.523 --> 00:05:02.512 So, yeah, man, not not bad, but yes, we have put sanctions and embargoes on rich, you know we're just paying tariffs on it for for every, for every mistake. 00:05:03.353 --> 00:05:06.939 Uh, so, guys, uh, what have you been up to this this past week, anthony? 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:12.524 we'll start with you well, yeah, man, while, while you're gone, we, you know, just like we spoke, we, we made the episode. 00:05:12.524 --> 00:05:16.459 You know, if you guys are fans of the the last of us, go and give that a listen. 00:05:16.459 --> 00:05:20.709 Yeah, man, like I've been, I've been playing overwatch again. 00:05:20.709 --> 00:05:22.963 I got the the new season just dropped. 00:05:22.963 --> 00:05:24.596 You know, so, so happy we got the beautiful you just dropped. 00:05:24.596 --> 00:05:26.745 You know, so, so happy we got the beautiful. 00:05:26.745 --> 00:05:30.108 You know, persona 5 collaboration that's coming out. 00:05:30.108 --> 00:05:32.908 You know, I had to let Dakota know that. 00:05:32.908 --> 00:05:37.218 You know, we, actually, I actually mentioned that in the last podcast. 00:05:37.218 --> 00:05:48.185 I was like, you know, I had to mess with Dakota on that, but yeah, I said, and then we also said that one of these days we're going to bring you into the fold, even though I don't know, has rich played? 00:05:48.185 --> 00:05:49.288 Have you played any of the games? 00:05:49.769 --> 00:05:50.391 I've only. 00:05:50.391 --> 00:05:56.012 I only know about it because like I searched up the image, like I wrote the thing after there. 00:05:56.072 --> 00:06:02.221 Yeah, I have no idea one of these days one of these days y'all are going to join the fold, but yes, but yeah, I know that. 00:06:02.221 --> 00:06:06.850 And then just hopping kind of into world of warcraft, I want to. 00:06:06.850 --> 00:06:12.771 I'm trying to get myself one of those uh, in-game houses that you can get in retail. 00:06:12.771 --> 00:06:13.721 Now I'm trying to. 00:06:13.721 --> 00:06:17.492 I've been saving my money, so oh yeah, what is up with that? 00:06:17.834 --> 00:06:18.437 yeah, yeah. 00:06:18.437 --> 00:06:20.841 Yeah, there's like in-game housing you can get like. 00:06:20.841 --> 00:06:28.375 So there's like public, like neighborhoods where it's like a solo, like you get your house, and then there's like you know just kind of randoms. 00:06:28.375 --> 00:06:37.134 And then you could do private neighborhoods where it's like guilds or like friends can get them together and like have like houses like kind of next to each other. 00:06:37.134 --> 00:06:38.444 It's pretty cool. 00:06:38.444 --> 00:06:43.071 I want to like play with some friends so that we can do like a private neighborhood. 00:06:43.071 --> 00:06:43.872 That'd be awesome. 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.129 How's the school zones in your neighborhood? 00:06:47.660 --> 00:06:48.524 Non-existent. 00:06:48.805 --> 00:06:49.166 Perfect. 00:06:50.420 --> 00:06:51.324 Just how I like them. 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:53.466 Let's throw it over to you. 00:06:53.466 --> 00:06:54.985 What have you been up to this past week? 00:06:55.185 --> 00:07:00.932 Well, let's see, the school is in almost full swing, so we had to start go back. 00:07:01.180 --> 00:07:02.024 You're starting up, yeah. 00:07:02.721 --> 00:07:03.904 So we started Monday. 00:07:03.904 --> 00:07:06.000 We're recording on thursday. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:15.266 So I I'm the head coach of the cross-country uh track team, which is um absurd, because I don't like to run for distance. 00:07:15.266 --> 00:07:19.302 I don't really run, unless I'm running to the mets game because I'm running late. 00:07:19.302 --> 00:07:25.266 So, uh, this is new for me, uh, but I'm having a really good time, other than getting up at eight in the morning and doing that. 00:07:26.380 --> 00:07:30.531 And, hypothetically, if you were in the Nostromo, would you be running from the alien? 00:07:30.860 --> 00:07:33.141 Oh yeah, no, no, I mean, that's different, like I'll. 00:07:33.141 --> 00:07:43.391 I mean, I'm actually going to get knee surgery in the next couple of months and my my doctor essentially said to me hey, well, I got to get both. 00:07:43.391 --> 00:07:45.869 I got to get both my acls reconstructed. 00:07:45.869 --> 00:07:52.473 Oh, man that stinks, so you know that stinks, but my mom just had knee surgery like two days ago. 00:07:52.901 --> 00:08:00.728 So yeah, it's I mean it's crazy because they did say it's an outpatient procedure, so I'll be like going in and coming home that day, uh, and then I'll just have a couple weeks off. 00:08:00.728 --> 00:08:03.605 Would not great for a track coach to uh be hobbled. 00:08:03.605 --> 00:08:08.612 But this is really what made me get the surgery, guys, and we'll move on from negative things. 00:08:08.612 --> 00:08:18.644 I said to myself if a zombie apocalypse happens right now, is your acl strong enough to not buckle when you need to get away from some of those fast fast walkers? 00:08:18.644 --> 00:08:25.146 And I realized my knee is in no shape to protect my family if there is a zombie apocalypse. 00:08:25.146 --> 00:08:26.841 So I need to get these. 00:08:26.841 --> 00:08:30.951 Uh, I need to get fixed up like six million dollar man, and then I will be. 00:08:30.951 --> 00:08:35.270 I don't know if that reference is too old for everybody, but I'll be good we got it we got it, we're not. 00:08:37.163 --> 00:08:41.730 We're not mental invalids um and how did uh? 00:08:41.770 --> 00:08:45.197 but I think you had a I mean my debbie downer week. 00:08:45.197 --> 00:08:47.221 I don't think I can compare to your week. 00:08:47.501 --> 00:08:50.590 Yeah, man, we like we essentially did nothing compared to you. 00:08:50.590 --> 00:08:52.160 Yeah, we're bearing the lead. 00:08:52.221 --> 00:08:54.748 You're the lead here I, I, uh, I went abroad. 00:08:54.748 --> 00:08:58.097 I was in iceland, the land of fire and ice. 00:08:58.097 --> 00:08:59.380 Maybe you've heard of it. 00:08:59.380 --> 00:09:08.965 Uh, they've filmed some stuff there, um, batman Begins, game of Thrones, the Secret Life of Walter Mitty, and the list goes on. 00:09:08.965 --> 00:09:16.365 Sorry, I was just trying to figure out a couple of things that were just like were actually filmed in Iceland, but completely separate. 00:09:16.365 --> 00:09:18.407 Yeah, it's a beautiful country. 00:09:18.407 --> 00:09:22.851 It's a place I've been before I went in 2019. 00:09:22.851 --> 00:09:24.566 So this was me going back. 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:33.240 Dude, you've gone so, so many times, I feel like I feel like you've gone at least like five times in your life to iceland. 00:09:33.381 --> 00:09:35.668 No, this is I remember you went when you were younger. 00:09:36.331 --> 00:09:46.701 I feel like you went like maybe set like several years later and then maybe like 2019 and I I feel like you've gone I've gone to europe a couple times. 00:09:46.701 --> 00:09:49.049 I remember you going to iceland like a few times. 00:09:49.049 --> 00:09:50.596 I do remember 2019. 00:09:50.596 --> 00:09:51.278 You've got. 00:09:51.278 --> 00:09:54.347 I mean, how many times would you say like it's been at least? 00:09:54.929 --> 00:10:00.427 it's definitely been at least three times I promise you, I've only been to iceland twice like I. 00:10:00.427 --> 00:10:00.870 That's a. 00:10:00.950 --> 00:10:05.205 It's a trip that I would not forget I feel like you went when, when you were younger. 00:10:05.205 --> 00:10:06.389 You know what happens. 00:10:06.528 --> 00:10:07.110 Do you remember? 00:10:07.110 --> 00:10:09.849 You don't remember this era of his life, Anthony. 00:10:09.849 --> 00:10:13.408 This is when he was given the red kryptonite. 00:10:13.408 --> 00:10:16.169 Oh, okay, so he can't remember, so he can't remember, yeah. 00:10:16.441 --> 00:10:22.148 You guys are gaslighting me into, like vacations I never took, and now I'm depressed because I don't got those memories. 00:10:22.148 --> 00:10:29.181 Did you hook? 00:10:29.181 --> 00:10:30.325 And now I'm depressed because I don't got those memories. 00:10:30.325 --> 00:10:30.785 Did you go to the lava? 00:10:30.785 --> 00:10:31.207 You just forgot them. 00:10:31.227 --> 00:10:31.750 I did not do the lava show. 00:10:31.750 --> 00:10:32.653 I thought about it and I I kind of wanted to. 00:10:32.653 --> 00:10:33.153 It did look kind of cool. 00:10:33.153 --> 00:10:33.996 I knew it wasn't like real lava, like they. 00:10:33.996 --> 00:10:36.361 It wasn't like lava like from the volcano, it's like just heated rock. 00:10:36.361 --> 00:10:41.971 So I was just like I will skip it for now, but I did do the Blue Lagoon. 00:10:41.971 --> 00:10:43.452 I did. 00:10:43.452 --> 00:10:45.034 We saw a lot of waterfalls. 00:10:45.034 --> 00:11:08.596 We did like a like an iceberg boat tour where, like we, we saw like the big glacier and it like as it slowly melts, basically it breaks up into huge icebergs that eventually like melt down into pocket-sized little handheld ice cubes, uh, or not. 00:11:08.596 --> 00:11:15.383 Well, they can be handheld, yeah, but like some of them are, um, you know, like man-sized, some of them are like just torso size. 00:11:15.383 --> 00:11:25.488 We, uh, we ended up grabbing, like me and my family, we found a really perfect piece of ice that had a little like crevice in the center. 00:11:25.488 --> 00:11:28.884 So we took like icelandic vodka and we were taking shots off of it. 00:11:28.903 --> 00:11:45.230 We were like holding the ice up so like ancient ancient ice, potentially thousands of years old, uh distilling our um you uh yeah, that was cool, you were chasing your alcohol with ancient water. 00:11:46.461 --> 00:11:53.208 I drove onto the glacier and we got a bottle of water when I was there, but you just trumped me there. 00:11:53.208 --> 00:11:55.607 You're like, I'm using it to cool the vodka. 00:11:55.607 --> 00:11:57.267 I'm like, man, that's a better trip than mine. 00:12:00.105 --> 00:12:02.010 To be fair, we weren't using it to cool the vodka. 00:12:02.010 --> 00:12:04.207 It was like a perfect little channel. 00:12:04.207 --> 00:12:09.950 So we were pouring shots onto the ice and just bringing yeah, it was an ice luge. 00:12:09.950 --> 00:12:11.592 Yeah, and it was. 00:12:11.592 --> 00:12:13.601 It was, uh, it was for the. 00:12:13.601 --> 00:12:20.424 Everyone had a good time, except for me, with that, um, because I I ended up getting a lot of like sand in my mouth, because this is it. 00:12:20.424 --> 00:12:23.370 These are ice, like ice chunks that wash up on the beach. 00:12:24.072 --> 00:12:32.323 So oh my gosh, that sounds terrible yeah, so I was, I was gagging, I was like why? 00:12:32.725 --> 00:12:35.470 why do I feel like it's it only happens to you? 00:12:35.470 --> 00:12:55.792 Like everybody else just gets it clear, like clear and free, but you're like the one that gets the mouthful of, I feel, like stuff like it happens to me a lot too, like whenever, like whenever I was with you and your family doing anything like everybody's always having a good time having something and I'm like the one that's just getting just the ridiculous things happening to me. 00:12:55.792 --> 00:13:00.130 Um but, yeah that, that uh did everybody go. 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:13.466 Uh, it was, it was just me, me, jen, uh uh, and my parents and my aunt and her husband okay, that's cool, that's cool man so we're seeing fernando over there. 00:13:13.868 --> 00:13:14.429 Yeah, it was a good time. 00:13:14.429 --> 00:13:19.246 Uh, we spent a lot of time in reykjavik such a beautiful city, awesome people like. 00:13:19.246 --> 00:13:26.029 It's just so fun staying out late in in a city like that because it literally doesn't sleep. 00:13:26.029 --> 00:13:27.321 It's the weirdest thing. 00:13:27.321 --> 00:13:32.113 Like um, you see, you're like walking the streets during the day and it's really cool. 00:13:32.113 --> 00:13:33.725 Lots of, lots of cool shops. 00:13:33.725 --> 00:13:41.648 Obviously it's it's touristy, but it's touristy with like a really cool vibe, because you don't get touristy like that anywhere else in the world. 00:13:41.648 --> 00:13:49.354 But as soon as it's like after like 11 pm, um, the streets are somehow even more busy, but they're not tourists anymore. 00:13:49.354 --> 00:13:54.149 It's just like the actual iceland people and they're the nicest people to to hang out with. 00:13:54.149 --> 00:13:54.409 It's. 00:13:54.409 --> 00:13:56.884 It's a really, really fun place that's cool. 00:13:57.164 --> 00:14:00.355 That's cool man I have yet to go recommend it I have yet to go. 00:14:00.496 --> 00:14:04.374 It is on my list, along with new zealand uh, it's expensive. 00:14:04.474 --> 00:14:04.895 Yeah, that's. 00:14:04.895 --> 00:14:06.782 That's the one thing that I want to. 00:14:06.782 --> 00:14:09.528 Uh, caution people listening. 00:14:09.528 --> 00:14:11.230 It is such an awesome trip. 00:14:11.230 --> 00:14:12.514 I cannot wait to go back. 00:14:12.514 --> 00:14:16.274 Um, I do think it's like one of the coolest places I've ever been. 00:14:16.274 --> 00:14:34.772 Uh, just because of the extremes, like the extreme jagged rocks, the, the low valleys, the black sand on the beach, the fact that there's glaciers, icebergs, volcanoes that are regularly erupting it's the most extreme environment that I've ever been to or ever heard of. 00:14:34.772 --> 00:14:36.225 But it's expensive. 00:14:36.225 --> 00:14:37.000 Like. 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:39.850 I spent way more than I expected to. 00:14:39.850 --> 00:14:42.710 Like, even just like random stuff is just there. 00:14:42.710 --> 00:14:44.447 Our dollar does not go far at all. 00:14:44.447 --> 00:14:47.448 It's really, it's really bad. 00:14:47.779 --> 00:14:49.527 Yeah, they said that everything gets in. 00:14:49.527 --> 00:14:58.729 I mean, basically everything has to be imported the land, is not very agriable, right, so everything gets imported and the prices shoot up. 00:14:59.129 --> 00:14:59.591 It's a little. 00:14:59.591 --> 00:15:04.240 Yeah, I remember when I was there, one of the things I was trying to go to sleep so I put the Met game on. 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.586 Obviously it was like the time difference, right, so it's like one, two in the morning. 00:15:07.586 --> 00:15:13.654 But when it's one two in the morning and it's dark outside and you're watching the Met game, you're like, okay, stop being a degenerate and go to sleep. 00:15:13.654 --> 00:15:20.104 But when it's light outside, you're like, well, this is allowed, because I was, you know, like my body. 00:15:20.104 --> 00:15:23.708 My body couldn't shut down because it wasn't dark. 00:15:24.149 --> 00:15:25.692 Oh, what time of year did you go? 00:15:26.033 --> 00:15:27.774 I went in August, okay, so yeah. 00:15:28.139 --> 00:15:44.667 Yeah, so, anthony, that was another weird thing Sunsets, at least when I was there around 9.30 pm, but because of the arc of like, where the sun has to go, it never gets fully dark, like it doesn't get like true astronomical dark, so you barely see the stars in the sky. 00:15:44.667 --> 00:15:46.419 It's fully dark Like it doesn't get like true astronomical dark, so we don't, you don't. 00:15:46.419 --> 00:15:49.022 You barely see the stars in the sky, and we were. 00:15:49.022 --> 00:15:54.288 I was fortunate enough that I did catch, like a week, aurora Borealis. 00:15:54.568 --> 00:15:56.532 Oh nice, we didn't catch that one. 00:15:57.331 --> 00:15:58.133 It was hard to see. 00:15:58.133 --> 00:16:00.436 Like at first we thought, oh, it's just clouds in the sky. 00:16:00.436 --> 00:16:10.086 But then you like look up at the clouds and they're like, wait, where did the clouds go? 00:16:10.086 --> 00:16:12.212 And then they're over there, and then they're over there and it's just like that's not how clouds work. 00:16:12.232 --> 00:16:18.009 We're looking at the aurora borealis, but it's it was so light out that we couldn't see the true colors flashing, basically like it needs to be really dark for that. 00:16:18.009 --> 00:16:27.573 But we get, like, if you I have uh like pictures, uh that you know, on the phone it it picks up the colors a little bit better because it takes a longer exposure. 00:16:27.573 --> 00:16:34.472 So it's green on my phone but it's white and wispy to the naked eye. 00:16:35.503 --> 00:16:36.907 But I can talk about Iceland forever. 00:16:36.907 --> 00:16:40.967 That's cool, yeah, but let's jump into Alien. 00:16:41.128 --> 00:16:43.947 Oh sorry, no no, no, yeah, let's hop into it. 00:16:44.179 --> 00:16:47.705 All right, so let's talk a little bit about our experience with alien. 00:16:47.705 --> 00:16:52.000 I spoke a little bit about what um it was like in my household. 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:59.583 Like we had the alien quadrility quadrilogy box set, the dvd box set that came out I think in the early 2000s or something. 00:16:59.583 --> 00:17:08.299 Um, it has the first alien, first four Alien movies and I remember watching them a couple times. 00:17:08.299 --> 00:17:11.810 I think I only saw the third and fourth maybe once in my life. 00:17:11.810 --> 00:17:14.248 The first two I've seen a bunch of times. 00:17:14.248 --> 00:17:18.371 I think the second one is just a little bit more fun. 00:17:18.371 --> 00:17:23.031 It's a little bit more of like a classic science fiction movie in my opinion. 00:17:23.539 --> 00:17:29.766 Yeah, the second one is classified as an action movie, the first one is a horror movie yeah, so it's it. 00:17:29.826 --> 00:17:43.284 The the series bends genres quite often, um, and it kind of bounces around, uh, so that's something that should be exciting for you rich, um, because I think in the past you've mentioned that you're you're into horror. 00:17:44.346 --> 00:17:50.454 Yeah, I actually I'm glad to hear you say that because I've agreed to embark on the journey no matter what. 00:17:50.454 --> 00:17:52.867 But I'm not really a horror guy. 00:17:52.867 --> 00:18:02.144 So as I started to watch this, you know I was like, because you know you're building and building right, so you're an hour in and you're like whoa, what? 00:18:02.144 --> 00:18:09.775 Like you know there's no, I want to say it's like an hour 45 minutes before you really get what the threat is going to be. 00:18:09.775 --> 00:18:12.201 Yeah, it's a slow burn. 00:18:12.281 --> 00:18:22.211 You know, my my just kind of stay on that topic of like your first experience, I never saw any of the movies before I watched this one. 00:18:22.211 --> 00:18:27.587 I know I know of them, right, I've seen like clips of stuff. 00:18:27.587 --> 00:18:33.689 I've seen like I had seen like the alien, like like drooling over somebody type stuff. 00:18:33.689 --> 00:18:41.607 I think I may have seen like scenes of part two or of aliens, but not the first one. 00:18:41.607 --> 00:18:46.582 And I think my first exposure was actually this is a throwback mad magazine. 00:18:46.582 --> 00:18:58.327 I loved mad magazine and I think one of the first issues I bought was like an alien parody, so I learned about alien through that. 00:18:58.489 --> 00:19:07.628 And then my second exposure was space balls oh, naturally yeah because at the end of space balls, so like there's the chestburster scene, yeah, I, I don't. 00:19:07.628 --> 00:19:11.442 I I assume that most people go into this movie maybe not knowing that scene, right. 00:19:11.442 --> 00:19:16.090 So I, I I was like, oh no, oh no, I know it's gonna. 00:19:16.090 --> 00:19:17.253 I saw space balls. 00:19:17.253 --> 00:19:18.883 I'm like don't, don't get near him. 00:19:18.883 --> 00:19:23.534 Uh, so those were my, those were like actually my only interaction. 00:19:23.534 --> 00:19:30.009 I mean, I knew sigurd niviver was in it, right, like that much, and I did expect it to be more action. 00:19:30.009 --> 00:19:38.537 I was kind of surprised, so like that's what happened, like 48 minutes in whatever I'm going, hey, uh, there's not a lot of action here. 00:19:38.537 --> 00:19:39.861 This is a horror movie. 00:19:39.901 --> 00:19:51.480 I'm like this is a slow introduction of the villain, you know, or of the monster and even even like the first five minutes is just shots of like within the ship and nobody's woken up yet but it's just it's. 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:55.411 It's ridley scott literally aura farming as he turns on the lights in the ship. 00:19:55.411 --> 00:19:58.628 You know, it's just like, yeah, this is a cool shot, film it. 00:19:58.970 --> 00:20:03.811 Yeah, this is a cool shot film it and it's five minutes of that and I get. 00:20:03.811 --> 00:20:06.040 I gotta give it to him because a lot of the shots are like gorgeous. 00:20:06.040 --> 00:20:17.635 You know, like the I I would never think to show a computer screen from the reflection of an unused helmet or like an unworn helmet, like it's it. 00:20:17.635 --> 00:20:21.067 That's like one of the first shots we see and I'm just like that's, that's cool. 00:20:21.247 --> 00:20:31.575 Like I wouldn't, I would have never thought to do that you know, like I like that you say that because I mean you think that this movie was was made in 1979. 00:20:31.575 --> 00:20:33.563 You know it came out in 1979. 00:20:33.563 --> 00:20:45.049 Like, what they were able to accomplish, you know, with shots like that and with the, the effects, just it blows my mind was what they were able to accomplish. 00:20:45.049 --> 00:21:10.652 Like you know, this was what a couple of years after Star Wars, and I still, and I feel like there were a lot more impressive visuals with this one than, like you know, maybe Star Wars Right, but this one is this, it's a, it's a different movie, so they're trying to accomplish something else, but they do a really good job at like putting you into outer space and somewhere that's away from Earth. 00:21:10.652 --> 00:21:12.214 It's believable. 00:21:12.615 --> 00:21:18.833 Yeah, anthony, what is your first memories of the Alien franchise? 00:21:19.339 --> 00:21:22.711 Yeah, I remember seeing it years ago. 00:21:22.711 --> 00:21:26.147 I don't remember it being one of those. 00:21:26.147 --> 00:21:42.644 It wasn't like a household thing for me, but it was definitely one of those movies that my dad grew up with and so, like a lot of these movies that he grew up with, you know, star wars, alien, uh, you know just indiana jones, all that stuff. 00:21:42.644 --> 00:21:47.784 You know I, he, like you know I watched it and yeah, I remember watching alien. 00:21:47.784 --> 00:22:10.651 I remember it being, you know I, yeah, I remember, like you know, as a kid, you know it's a, the first one's a little bit more boring because there's a lot of talking, but then, like, once you get to that towards the end, where the, where the, the is is like being shown a little bit more than than that's where, like you know the edge, you know like you're on the edge of your seat. 00:22:11.173 --> 00:22:19.292 It's, you know, I remember, yeah, that memory kind of being a little bit um, a little bit of afraid because it looks so weird. 00:22:19.292 --> 00:22:21.182 You know, like you don't see any eyes. 00:22:21.182 --> 00:22:24.807 I specifically remember the mouth within the mouth. 00:22:24.807 --> 00:22:33.076 That's always a visual that I'll remember, you know, of the alien, you know, like, when it opens its mouth, there's like another mouth on the inside. 00:22:33.076 --> 00:22:41.532 I'll never forget that and I remember that as a kid, that visual of like the mouth, like just shooting into, you know, buddy's face. 00:22:42.153 --> 00:22:47.240 Yeah, you know buddy's face. 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:50.647 Yeah, with alien, uh, I've kind of gone like back and forth and back and forth as far as, like, do I even like this movie? 00:22:50.647 --> 00:22:53.413 Not that I don't respect it, I I do, I definitely do. 00:22:53.413 --> 00:23:08.015 And I remember like being kind of scared of it when I was a kid, but it wasn't like a terrifying movie, um, but as an adult I think I experienced the existential dread more than I did when I was a kid. 00:23:08.381 --> 00:23:18.314 The monster itself was scary, yes, but the impending doom that you're feeling throughout the entire film is really impressive. 00:23:18.380 --> 00:23:19.967 It's almost like Lovecraftian. 00:23:19.967 --> 00:23:41.760 You know, like, uh, there's a certain ominous uh tone that, um, as soon as they basically land on that planet, or like when they get the distress call, or when they, um, enter that alien ship, and it's just a vast cavern of like bones on the wall and it's just, it's the most bizarre thing you've ever seen. 00:23:41.760 --> 00:23:43.886 Which, by the way, coolest sets ever. 00:23:43.886 --> 00:23:45.490 I don't know how they did that. 00:23:45.490 --> 00:23:50.491 Those are sets, you know, like some of it is matte paintings and everything. 00:23:50.491 --> 00:23:58.089 But like there are like crazy, crazy sets that they built for this and I'm just like, how did they even think of this? 00:23:58.089 --> 00:24:15.588 But yeah, that that cosmic horror, like, almost like a mental, like your mind's trying to wrap its head around something that's much bigger than you can imagine, and that's the kind of like Lovecraftian thing that Ridley Scott was trying to. 00:24:15.588 --> 00:24:25.446 I'm assuming that Ridley Scott was trying to like latch onto, because, yeah, you feel so helpless watching it yeah, I agree, I know I said the respect. 00:24:25.907 --> 00:24:27.893 You're not sure if you like it, but you respect it. 00:24:27.893 --> 00:24:40.028 Like I can see the craft, the craft and acknowledge the level of difficulty and the the I mean ridley scott here is the best of his craft. 00:24:40.028 --> 00:24:49.231 Like he right, like at the time period with lack of cgi and everything, like he did a great job of creating he world build. 00:24:49.231 --> 00:24:56.343 Like he spent a lot of time world building before we got to see anything you know, and that doom builds, so the pacing is great. 00:24:56.343 --> 00:24:58.768 You know, like he does a really great job with that. 00:24:58.768 --> 00:25:03.423 The shots are inventive, um, but I don't know if I love it, but I can. 00:25:03.463 --> 00:25:09.545 Yeah but I do like I hate the characters in great gatsby, I teach it every year almost well, I used to teach it every year. 00:25:09.545 --> 00:25:20.030 I I hate read it almost, but it's meticulously crafted and I can acknowledge how good, how well it's done while you can explain. 00:25:20.070 --> 00:25:37.421 You can understand that this is actually an amazing story or an amazing uh work of art, while also hating the insides of it um yeah, no, I, I totally get that, and so what I what I was trying to say earlier is I've had this like wow, I really love this movie. 00:25:37.721 --> 00:25:43.161 Wow, it's not actually as good, or it's overblown, you know, or it's not actually that scary. 00:25:43.161 --> 00:26:04.205 But coming at it as a, you know, early 30s person who hasn't seen it in a long time, I appreciate it so much more because I'm just I'm I'm just here trying to understand the artistic intent of like what is being uh shown to me, and I think I, you know, I'm in a position where I can see that now I can pick up, uh, what release god is putting down. 00:26:04.205 --> 00:26:12.228 And he's putting down a lot of like uh, just existential dread and and I, I love how they, how he handled that. 00:26:12.228 --> 00:26:27.426 And you mentioned, rich, that there are like 45 minutes before we even like get to see the like the face hugger, you know, and that's our first like real uh glimpse of the alien. 00:26:27.426 --> 00:26:38.711 Then there's the chest bursar scene and the actual like xenomorph that's actually they never call it a xenomorph in this movie do you guys have an understanding of the life cycle of this species from this movie? 00:26:39.173 --> 00:26:54.392 I was trying to understand that personally, because the latcher right you go like we get the latcher, who presumably now like implants a seed right, but like when the burster comes out, I would think the burster would go to latch mode and it doesn't. 00:26:54.940 --> 00:27:23.462 Right, I don't have a solid answer, but the way that I understand it is if the face hugger, If the facehugger like the latcher that you said, if that latched onto, say, a primate, a gorilla, the chestburster and eventual alien would look different, because it's taking our DNA Xenomorph. 00:27:23.462 --> 00:27:23.923 Okay, it's in the name. 00:27:23.923 --> 00:27:24.763 Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. 00:27:24.763 --> 00:27:26.566 So we do see variations. 00:27:26.566 --> 00:27:33.109 I don't want to like spoil too much, but we do see variations of the Xenomorph in future films. 00:27:33.590 --> 00:27:43.017 Would you compare this to the brood almost from X-Men then when, like the, I'm sorry, maybe I'm going too deep in X-Men comic book stuff. 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.211 But the brood, basically, were like the Xenomorphs and when they took over the X x-men, like it, looked like wolverine, but a xenomorph. 00:27:56.211 --> 00:27:56.491 You know? 00:27:56.491 --> 00:27:57.314 Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about. 00:27:57.314 --> 00:27:58.778 Um, yeah, I guess that would be the comic book comparison. 00:27:58.778 --> 00:28:00.021 Okay, anthony, we haven't heard from you in a while. 00:28:00.021 --> 00:28:01.385 What's what's going through your mind right now? 00:28:01.948 --> 00:28:07.826 yeah, so I was kind of dancing around the name because they they actually't say Xenomorph in this one, but yeah. 00:28:07.866 --> 00:28:11.813 Yes, do they ever mention it in future films? 00:28:12.012 --> 00:28:25.730 Yes, they must Second one, they must Second movie yeah, so yeah, no, I agree, it's also like coming into this movie knowing that you're watching it to discuss. 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:29.560 It also changes the lens of how you watch it too. 00:28:29.560 --> 00:28:36.334 And so, yeah, like you do notice a little bit more of like the minor details, like you. 00:28:36.334 --> 00:28:37.461 You talked about the sets. 00:28:37.461 --> 00:28:40.810 The sets were very impressive, even. 00:28:40.810 --> 00:28:55.886 Even I was even impressed with what they were able to do with the xenomorph and I was actually analyzing it because you know it has like spines out of the back and like I kind of look at it and be like you know, what did they use to to make that right? 00:28:56.347 --> 00:29:08.840 You know, I try to analyze to see if I can notice any, any like you know, maybe household item that they might have used right, like some tubing from, from a vacuum cleaner or whatever, but it's, it all looks impressive. 00:29:08.840 --> 00:29:09.903 It doesn't look cheap. 00:29:09.903 --> 00:29:22.501 You know they really do put a lot of money into this, but you know, kind of you know, and we've been talking about you know really like what they've accomplished in a little bit of like the future stuff. 00:29:22.501 --> 00:29:30.233 But you know, this film has a pretty like solid group of like like a casting, you know. 00:29:30.233 --> 00:29:36.833 I mean you know it's helmed by sigourney weaver, which you know she was 29 years old in that movie. 00:29:36.833 --> 00:29:40.888 Isn't that crazy like thinking that, like she was 29 years old in this movie. 00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:45.365 Um yeah, and like she looks it she actually looks young like. 00:29:45.405 --> 00:29:55.347 Sometimes I'll I'll like look back at old films and I'll look to see how old they were and they'll they'll be like, yeah, there were, there were 25 in this movie, but they look like they were almost 40, you know. 00:29:55.347 --> 00:29:56.632 But she actually looked young. 00:29:56.779 --> 00:30:13.551 You know, I was actually surprised it's crazy how young john hurt looked in this yes, yeah, because most of the john hurt performances that I've seen have been a much older john hurt right but yeah, he, there's a number of really, really incredible actors in this movie. 00:30:14.012 --> 00:30:25.146 Um, I'd say, ian home looked maybe a little younger than he did in fellowship, like maybe a lot a lot younger yeah, I know no but he still looked older, though, though. 00:30:25.227 --> 00:30:25.868 No, he definitely was older. 00:30:28.019 --> 00:30:30.690 You could tell he was maybe touching 50. 00:30:30.690 --> 00:30:32.906 He was definitely middle-aged, so yeah. 00:30:32.906 --> 00:30:36.588 I mean you could tell he was definitely older. 00:30:36.588 --> 00:30:45.794 I mean obviously he didn't look as old as Fellowship, but he was getting there. 00:30:45.794 --> 00:30:49.261 You could tell he was getting up there in age john hurt. 00:30:49.301 --> 00:30:56.403 I mean oh yeah, john hurt, actually surprised me and I know him best as the voice of the dragon in merlin. 00:30:56.403 --> 00:31:00.109 So I I was like, wait, is that the merlin guy? 00:31:00.109 --> 00:31:02.273 Uh, that was exciting. 00:31:02.273 --> 00:31:06.147 And then, um, I don't know the actor's name, I forget the character. 00:31:06.147 --> 00:31:09.181 Uh, so it's the other dark haired gentleman. 00:31:09.181 --> 00:31:10.564 He was in the show big love. 00:31:10.564 --> 00:31:17.766 He played like a very sleazy, basically like the head of the mormons uh out there in uh utah. 00:31:17.786 --> 00:31:18.907 He plays the character brett. 00:31:18.907 --> 00:31:19.809 Yes, um. 00:31:20.151 --> 00:31:36.345 So I he's, I don't know his name, yeah he's kind of not a great guy, you know, in the movie and yeah, I could buy it like it's just like he, he's like a character actor, I think, who like just plays like kind of a a not great guy all the time and he does it well. 00:31:36.345 --> 00:31:38.251 So I was excited by the casting. 00:31:38.251 --> 00:31:51.951 I I honestly, when they all were on screen I was like, hey, I know almost all these actors you know, so that was actually a really cool thing to see and see, uh, one of their earlier works yeah, um, everyone did fantastically. 00:31:52.553 --> 00:31:54.778 Jen even commented like I don't understand. 00:31:54.778 --> 00:31:56.483 People don't look like this anymore. 00:31:56.483 --> 00:32:11.586 Like you're looking at some of the cast and uh, so the other female lambert she was specifically talking about her and she's just like I've never seen anyone who looks like that and, it's true, like they just look like they're from the seventies. 00:32:11.586 --> 00:32:12.328 You know it's it's a. 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:23.426 It's a really bizarre thing that, uh, I think everyone just has, I um, like iPhone faces now, where everyone's used to looking at a screen, so our faces are just a little bit different. 00:32:23.426 --> 00:32:29.262 It's the blue light morphing us, the blue light, yeah, oh, what I? 00:32:29.262 --> 00:32:29.403 What I? 00:32:29.403 --> 00:32:31.346 I understand what I was trying to say earlier. 00:32:31.346 --> 00:32:48.407 Basically, it's the, the, the use of the actual villain takes a while and they do that to kind of put you at a state of unease, because if they show you their hands at the beginning, the villain is no longer scary by the end. 00:32:48.407 --> 00:32:55.470 You know they want that build-up, they want you to emotionally feel uneasy when you're going into. 00:32:55.470 --> 00:33:01.086 You know when you're finally seeing the face on it, when you're finally seeing the, the chest burster and then finally it's. 00:33:01.086 --> 00:33:05.382 You know final form, um, and they knew their limitations. 00:33:05.382 --> 00:33:14.731 You know, like, this is a guy in a rubber suit, but they didn't want it to look like doctor who you know, like they, they wanted it to or god. 00:33:14.751 --> 00:33:16.182 They wanted it to look like a. 00:33:16.722 --> 00:33:27.993 They didn't want it to look like godzilla, so they they kept the creature in shadows and only showed very sparse glimpses at it, just enough to freak you the heck out. 00:33:27.993 --> 00:33:39.323 And they do a pretty good job of it for a 1979 film yeah, yeah, I like the, the utilization of darkness, it it definitely it. 00:33:39.423 --> 00:33:58.332 it definitely works well with this type of movie and I mean honestly that they have a game called alien isolation and it kind of uses like the similar you know you've got the xenomorph, you're trying to avoid it and it's, you know it'll pop up on you at any time pretty much like this one. 00:33:58.332 --> 00:34:06.970 You know you're not guns blazing, you know, like some of the later ones, but yeah, this one is this one. 00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:15.452 They did well because, I mean, you're right, you said that they knew their limitations and they slotted well into that. 00:34:15.452 --> 00:34:28.536 You know, and even though they did show, like you know, a full body xenomorph, it with the camera work, it didn't look corny no, it doesn't, and and they're only showing. 00:34:29.077 --> 00:34:30.722 I love the extreme close-ups too. 00:34:30.722 --> 00:34:38.768 There's a lot of extreme close-ups on people's faces in this movie, um, to show either fear or just to like, give you a unique glimpse at the person or character. 00:34:39.650 --> 00:34:56.407 And uh, they do a lot of extreme close-ups of like the, the sleek shine, of like the dome on the xenomorph's head, or just like it's slowly opening its mouth and like strobe lighting to like, because strobe lighting is uneasy to look at. 00:34:56.407 --> 00:34:57.824 You know like it's hard to. 00:34:57.824 --> 00:34:59.268 You know see movement. 00:34:59.268 --> 00:35:08.159 And when you eliminate movement with a strobe light, that also helps heighten, like the, the unease of everything. 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:29.514 So the only thing I thought and and this is probably my space balls, this is my, my space balls like background when the z, when the chestburster comes out, I just the way it kind of like skitters off screen it it just reminded me of in Spaceballs when the chestburster jumps into song and dance on the diner top. 00:35:29.514 --> 00:35:41.188 So I giggled when I saw him skitter because I was like I just in my head heard like hello my baby, hello my darling, you know, like that same exact scene from Spaceballs. 00:35:42.041 --> 00:36:06.849 So that's the only time that I felt like the xenomorph took me out of it, like just that little skittering you know, thinking back like to the 1970s and like kind of what they did with like horror films back then, you know it was really hard to make like a serious one that didn't look corny, you know, and like the acting wasn't like over the top, like you know, like, know, like oh you know, like. 00:36:07.251 --> 00:36:14.045 It didn't look corny Like, but this movie they didn't show fear in a way that looked corny, it looked genuine. 00:36:14.045 --> 00:36:38.827 And so like I really have to like put it up to like the actors for really like acting very well and making, making a film that just set off this whole series, that we're still getting stuff today yeah, yeah, um, and it's, it's kind of bigger than ever right now because, uh, we just had a very successful alien movie in theaters, um, and it was a very good one like I was. 00:36:39.429 --> 00:36:46.735 I'm blown away by how well um romulus was and I've heard very good things about the first. 00:36:46.735 --> 00:37:02.313 I think there's four episodes now of alien earth, so I'm excited to to dive into that soon and I'm hoping to to start making like timeline content with you know, I want to make individual short uh video content for the alien series. 00:37:02.313 --> 00:37:30.199 Um, slowly working my way up to something a little bit bigger, but yeah, so you mentioned anthony that uh, you were like were you specifically talking about the chestburster scene that everyone was like super, you could tell like the fear was like real or not, not specifically the the chestburster scene, but like there's that, and then the build up to when the xenomorph um this scene right here yes, so behind anthony, uh it's. 00:37:30.280 --> 00:38:02.072 It's a scene where, uh, lambert the, the other female, is confronted by the xenomorph and she's unable to get around it or do anything and she and she's crying, but like, like it looks genuine, like it doesn't look fake, like I don't know, know, like I've seen some of, like you know, older horror movies that are from around the same era and a lot of them are, like, really corny, but like this one, I felt like it broke through like some stereotypes when it came to horror. 00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:09.400 I mean it was also partly a sci-fi movie but I mean, like, I mean the main element of it is horror. 00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:17.315 You know, they're building up, like you said, there's that existential dread that builds up throughout the film until you get to the climax. 00:38:17.315 --> 00:38:20.103 And yeah, man, dude, it's. 00:38:20.103 --> 00:38:24.833 It might not be the one that most people talk about. 00:38:24.833 --> 00:38:27.007 A lot of people talk about the second one. 00:38:27.007 --> 00:38:40.452 That's the one that, like you probably saw most clips of rich was the second one, but I like, like dakota said you, you have to respect it, you have to appreciate what this film did can dakota? 00:38:40.472 --> 00:38:41.213 you're a timeline guy. 00:38:41.213 --> 00:38:44.748 When did aliens come out, like year wise? 00:38:44.748 --> 00:38:48.543 Yeah, because I'm trying to figure out like I remember seeing the toys so like. 00:38:48.543 --> 00:39:04.594 That's essentially why I thought this was an action franchise, because I remember like the action figures of like riley and like the xenomorphs and stuff were a big deal in toy stores when I was younger so it um, it took a quite a quite a while for a sequel to come out. 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:07.568 It came out in 1986, this one came out in 79. 00:39:07.668 --> 00:39:14.052 So uh like so maybe seven, eight, eight years later, so maybe it was three, three when three came out. 00:39:14.052 --> 00:39:15.342 I think that's when I saw that. 00:39:15.342 --> 00:39:17.708 I remember seeing the toys in stores that would make sense. 00:39:17.909 --> 00:39:20.961 Yeah, the three, I think was 91 that makes more sense. 00:39:21.021 --> 00:39:21.782 Yeah, because I would have been. 00:39:21.782 --> 00:39:23.405