1 00:00:00,700 --> 00:00:02,584 Speaker 1: Stop your grinning and drop your linen. 2 00:00:02,584 --> 00:00:07,014 Welcome back to Project Geekology, episode 132. 3 00:00:07,014 --> 00:00:11,090 We're covering aliens Plural, multiple aliens. 4 00:00:11,090 --> 00:00:13,105 I started this with a line from the film. 5 00:00:13,105 --> 00:00:16,353 I know it's a little crass, but I felt it was in good fun. 6 00:00:16,353 --> 00:00:21,271 Guys, I'm really excited to dive back into the world of 7 00:00:21,591 --> 00:00:21,893 Alien. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,009 Speaker 2: My name is Dakota and I am joined as always with 9 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:32,524 Anthony, it's game over, man, it's game over and we are joined 10 00:00:32,524 --> 00:00:34,551 , as always, with Rich. 11 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:38,429 Speaker 3: I am just so excited to talk about a bad guy, Paul 12 00:00:38,469 --> 00:00:38,810 Reiser. 13 00:00:38,810 --> 00:00:41,284 Just shocking, shocking information, guys. 14 00:00:41,966 --> 00:00:44,552 Speaker 1: It had to happen, had to happen eventually, yeah. 15 00:00:44,552 --> 00:00:47,762 So this is a very different movie from the last one. 16 00:00:47,762 --> 00:00:50,710 Last time the three of us were together we were discussing the 17 00:00:51,481 --> 00:00:55,929 almost lovecraftian horror, the fear of the unknown, which is 18 00:00:55,948 --> 00:00:58,232 ridley scott's first alien movie . 19 00:00:58,232 --> 00:01:01,784 And this is a very different movie by a very different 20 00:01:01,804 --> 00:01:06,194 director, but a director that kind of gels well within this 21 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:08,123 universe that Ridley Scott helped create. 22 00:01:08,123 --> 00:01:10,750 This one is helmed by James Cameron. 23 00:01:10,750 --> 00:01:13,804 I'm a big fan of James Cameron's, this very, very 24 00:01:13,843 --> 00:01:16,671 different director, and you know he has his strengths and he has 25 00:01:16,671 --> 00:01:18,885 his weaknesses, and I think both of them are on display in 26 00:01:18,906 --> 00:01:19,287 this movie. 27 00:01:19,287 --> 00:01:22,180 But at the end of the day, I think it's safe to say that 28 00:01:22,221 --> 00:01:26,548 James Cameron knows how to show you a good time, no matter what. 29 00:01:26,548 --> 00:01:30,272 You're going to be incredibly engrossed in what's happening on 30 00:01:30,272 --> 00:01:30,634 screen. 31 00:01:31,174 --> 00:01:31,715 Speaker 2: Hey everyone. 32 00:01:31,715 --> 00:01:35,465 This is Future Anthony, and if you want to skip the what we've 33 00:01:35,484 --> 00:01:38,992 been up to discussion, head on over to eight minutes and four 34 00:01:39,052 --> 00:01:43,242 seconds, and that is when the main discussion begins, rich 35 00:01:44,087 --> 00:01:45,313 what the heck have you been up to lately? 36 00:01:45,756 --> 00:01:48,706 Speaker 3: well, uh, I would say that last week I kind of uh hit 37 00:01:48,706 --> 00:01:54,439 the ground running because I started coaching cross-country 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,748 track last week and we started school this week, so kind of 39 00:01:58,789 --> 00:02:02,885 been taking up a lot of my time, but of course, uh as as we 40 00:02:02,926 --> 00:02:05,615 spoke about off-air I'm still continuing my pursuit of 41 00:02:05,697 --> 00:02:08,242 finishing smallville as quickly as possible. 42 00:02:08,242 --> 00:02:09,444 So I'm in season eight. 43 00:02:09,444 --> 00:02:14,722 I will uh just just tell loyal listeners, guys, I still feel 44 00:02:14,741 --> 00:02:17,953 that lana's the villain, so one day we'll circle back to this, 45 00:02:18,054 --> 00:02:21,723 but lana lang, one day is the villain of smallville. 46 00:02:21,723 --> 00:02:24,409 But what have, uh, you been up to this week? 47 00:02:25,231 --> 00:02:28,763 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just, you know, rebuff that just a little 48 00:02:28,802 --> 00:02:32,227 bit, because I think Rich is the only person in existence who 49 00:02:32,268 --> 00:02:35,325 has this particular outlook on Smallville. 50 00:02:35,325 --> 00:02:37,104 But you know, it's a fresh one. 51 00:02:37,104 --> 00:02:41,960 There's no such thing as bad opinions, but there are wrong 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,526 ones in my book. 53 00:02:43,526 --> 00:02:44,950 Anyway, anthony, what are you what? 54 00:02:44,971 --> 00:02:47,022 Speaker 2: do you think that's the other way around dakota? 55 00:02:48,044 --> 00:02:50,669 Speaker 3: they're definitely bad opinions listen when you, 56 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:52,294 when you guys get to season eight. 57 00:02:52,294 --> 00:02:56,027 All right, come back to me tell me that you don't come back, 58 00:02:56,048 --> 00:02:57,852 she's the look, look. 59 00:02:57,931 --> 00:02:59,801 Speaker 2: I was at season eight at one point in my life. 60 00:02:59,801 --> 00:03:03,968 Okay, and season nine and season 10, all right all right, 61 00:03:04,049 --> 00:03:08,022 all right enough with the the pissing contest anthony, what 62 00:03:08,043 --> 00:03:08,705 have you been up to? 63 00:03:09,567 --> 00:03:11,292 I have been up to. 64 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:13,016 What have I been up to? 65 00:03:13,016 --> 00:03:17,646 Well, actually, I've kind of been doing some professional 66 00:03:17,806 --> 00:03:18,086 stuff. 67 00:03:18,086 --> 00:03:22,801 So this week my job is kind of doing a test run, of trying to 68 00:03:22,822 --> 00:03:25,330 like prove to our higher ups that we need to like keep some 69 00:03:25,409 --> 00:03:31,211 of our contractors on like full time, because if we don't have 70 00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:32,813 them then the queue will be gone . 71 00:03:32,813 --> 00:03:36,414 So they took five of us out of the queue for this week just to 72 00:03:36,474 --> 00:03:40,086 like test that theory and I would say so far, like it's kind 73 00:03:40,086 --> 00:03:42,192 of proven them right that we do need them. 74 00:03:42,192 --> 00:03:45,560 You know, because if they go, like in january, we'll kind of 75 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:48,907 get, like you know, swamped, particularly, you know, like on 76 00:03:49,169 --> 00:03:52,423 like earlier in the weeks, like monday or tuesdays, if we were 77 00:03:52,543 --> 00:03:53,806 off for a holiday. 78 00:03:53,885 --> 00:03:57,653 But but yeah, so I've been kind of taking this opportunity to 79 00:03:58,401 --> 00:04:00,544 kind of work on some certifications that I've been 80 00:04:00,585 --> 00:04:01,186 wanting to do. 81 00:04:01,186 --> 00:04:05,455 Right now I'm working on one called the AZ-900. 82 00:04:05,455 --> 00:04:08,068 It's just like the Azure fundamentals. 83 00:04:08,068 --> 00:04:13,606 Azure is a cloud system that businesses use for various 84 00:04:13,627 --> 00:04:17,682 different things, for whatever it is that they need, and I know 85 00:04:17,682 --> 00:04:23,750 that my job, the bank, we use Azure for various different 86 00:04:23,771 --> 00:04:25,723 things profiles and whatnot. 87 00:04:25,803 --> 00:04:29,764 But so I've been trying to kind of like work on getting 88 00:04:29,805 --> 00:04:33,372 certifications, kind of build up my knowledge base and, you know 89 00:04:33,372 --> 00:04:37,750 , kind of bolster up what I know and you know I'm getting the 90 00:04:37,810 --> 00:04:38,411 experience. 91 00:04:38,411 --> 00:04:40,062 So now I want to get the certifications. 92 00:04:40,062 --> 00:04:41,528 I kind of backed that up and you know you can start to 93 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:42,872 command a bit more money when you start getting that stuff in. 94 00:04:42,872 --> 00:04:44,798 I mean you know you can start to command a bit more money when 95 00:04:44,798 --> 00:04:46,024 you start getting that stuff in . 96 00:04:46,024 --> 00:04:49,077 I mean you would know, dakota, like you had worked on something 97 00:04:49,077 --> 00:04:53,692 recently, kind of not really in a similar vein, but like you 98 00:04:53,732 --> 00:04:58,285 know, just kind of like trying to get to the next level and I 99 00:04:58,345 --> 00:05:01,754 know that that that helps out with pay the journeyman right 100 00:05:01,795 --> 00:05:03,319 yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 101 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:03,762 Speaker 1: Yeah. 102 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:05,307 I was dragging my head like what did I do? 103 00:05:05,307 --> 00:05:11,170 Did you ever hear back from that you never like told us oh, 104 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:14,701 I, I passed, I passed, okay, yeah, yeah, I know you said you 105 00:05:14,762 --> 00:05:18,690 felt like you did I passed, yeah , um, and I'm pretty sure I got 106 00:05:18,730 --> 00:05:23,288 the score that I thought I got, which I'm happy about sweet so 107 00:05:23,327 --> 00:05:24,088 yeah, I've been. 108 00:05:24,269 --> 00:05:26,434 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like mapping out what I want to do 109 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:30,495 and you know I'm working towards that and my supervisors they 110 00:05:30,536 --> 00:05:33,384 said that, like you know, like hey, look, if the director kind 111 00:05:33,403 --> 00:05:37,612 of sees that you're working on these different certifications 112 00:05:37,793 --> 00:05:39,985 and they see that you're trying to improve yourself, they may 113 00:05:40,144 --> 00:05:43,863 actually offer to pay for you to take these certification tests. 114 00:05:43,863 --> 00:05:47,125 Because, like you know, some of these tests I don't know if the 115 00:05:47,125 --> 00:05:49,711 I'm pretty sure the one that you took probably cost money, 116 00:05:50,521 --> 00:05:55,290 but some of these certifications they cost anywhere from you 117 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:59,086 know like a hundred dollars to you know a few or so hundred 118 00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:01,555 dollars, a couple hundred dollars, yeah, certifications 119 00:06:02,117 --> 00:06:03,401 yeah, so it's no joke. 120 00:06:03,802 --> 00:06:05,747 So, yeah, no, I'm, I'm working on that. 121 00:06:05,747 --> 00:06:08,706 Obviously, before I actually take the test I'm gonna do 122 00:06:08,927 --> 00:06:13,180 example tests and whatnot to kind of feel better about taking 123 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:15,324 the actual test before I spend the money. 124 00:06:15,324 --> 00:06:19,973 But it'll be cool if I do get kind of backed by my job to 125 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:21,963 cover, you know, some of the certifications. 126 00:06:21,963 --> 00:06:23,045 That'd be awesome. 127 00:06:23,045 --> 00:06:26,990 But really that's mostly what I've been working on, aside from 128 00:06:26,990 --> 00:06:28,954 just watching aliens. 129 00:06:28,954 --> 00:06:32,901 And you know, just on my one piece trek I had taken a couple 130 00:06:32,980 --> 00:06:36,329 weeks off of of one piece but I've been hopping back on it 131 00:06:36,348 --> 00:06:38,413 again rich is shaking his head. 132 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:40,764 Speaker 1: He can't believe anyone would take a break from a 133 00:06:40,764 --> 00:06:43,672 tv show right, yeah, yeah. 134 00:06:43,672 --> 00:06:47,180 Well, you know, that's why you can't start one piece, otherwise 135 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:48,642 he, he's, uh, you know. 136 00:06:48,682 --> 00:06:52,872 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm sorry I can't hold on to something 137 00:06:52,911 --> 00:06:53,271 like that. 138 00:06:53,271 --> 00:06:54,160 I like to go out my. 139 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,502 I like to save her. 140 00:06:55,502 --> 00:06:58,629 I'm not racing like for what you know. 141 00:06:58,629 --> 00:07:01,983 So flash baby, that's my thing, man he's like the flash man. 142 00:07:02,343 --> 00:07:05,692 Speaker 1: That's awesome bro, but yeah um, this isn't a bad 143 00:07:05,752 --> 00:07:05,952 thing. 144 00:07:05,952 --> 00:07:07,845 It happens regularly on my job. 145 00:07:07,845 --> 00:07:13,098 But I got laid off so I am a free agent for a little while, 146 00:07:13,139 --> 00:07:14,283 so I have a little time off of work. 147 00:07:14,283 --> 00:07:16,911 As an electrician especially a union electrician this isn't 148 00:07:16,939 --> 00:07:17,622 really a big deal. 149 00:07:17,622 --> 00:07:19,853 Eventually I'll get picked up by another company. 150 00:07:19,853 --> 00:07:23,302 Sometimes it's a longer wait than other times, but, uh, it's 151 00:07:23,322 --> 00:07:25,547 a good opportunity for me to catch up on some of my work 152 00:07:26,108 --> 00:07:28,951 online, which I've kind of put on the back burner a little bit 153 00:07:28,992 --> 00:07:29,733 while I've been at work. 154 00:07:29,733 --> 00:07:30,675 So that's a good thing. 155 00:07:30,675 --> 00:07:38,391 But because I am off, I am doing an impromptu trip tomorrow 156 00:07:38,391 --> 00:07:41,634 morning to Miami, florida, because my grandmother's in the 157 00:07:41,675 --> 00:07:41,975 hospital. 158 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:43,482 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. 159 00:07:43,482 --> 00:07:44,771 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that man. 160 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:45,132 Speaker 1: Thank you. 161 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:47,987 Yeah, I'm going to be down there for a couple days. 162 00:07:47,987 --> 00:07:50,982 It's not going to be like a fun trip, it's just going to be 163 00:07:51,182 --> 00:07:51,805 family and stuff. 164 00:07:51,805 --> 00:07:54,879 So, anthony, if I have some free time I will hit you up, but 165 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:55,920 if not, please don't feel bad. 166 00:07:56,721 --> 00:07:59,122 Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, man . 167 00:07:59,122 --> 00:08:02,685 Well, you know, you know, I know how you feel. 168 00:08:02,685 --> 00:08:05,908 Absolutely yeah, man, it is Family. 169 00:08:06,749 --> 00:08:07,329 Speaker 1: It is what it is. 170 00:08:07,329 --> 00:08:12,112 But, guys, I think enough time has passed and we better get 171 00:08:12,151 --> 00:08:15,995 back, because it'll be dark soon and they mostly come out at 172 00:08:16,035 --> 00:08:16,235 night. 173 00:08:16,235 --> 00:08:19,016 Mostly we need to talk about aliens. 174 00:08:19,016 --> 00:08:22,492 I don't know if you guys caught that, it's one of my favorite 175 00:08:22,632 --> 00:08:24,540 quotes from Aliens Newt. 176 00:08:24,540 --> 00:08:27,742 Scamander, alien the newt skimander, yep, newt skimander. 177 00:08:28,605 --> 00:08:31,891 Speaker 2: what are our thoughts on aliens, folks, anthony, 178 00:08:31,911 --> 00:08:36,062 let's start with you well, this, this movie, I mean, like you 179 00:08:36,081 --> 00:08:40,571 said, it's a lot different you go from we went from a horror 180 00:08:40,591 --> 00:08:44,868 movie to an action movie and it's a complete 180. 181 00:08:44,888 --> 00:08:45,870 Yeah, right, right, yeah, it's. 182 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:46,981 It's completely different. 183 00:08:46,981 --> 00:08:51,571 You go from the, the slow, gradual build-up, to the reveal 184 00:08:51,932 --> 00:08:57,908 an alien to, you know, space marines kind of you know just 185 00:08:57,990 --> 00:09:01,100 shooting a bunch of these xenomorphs see, and then so this 186 00:09:01,100 --> 00:09:04,365 one, that this is where you get the name xenomorph yeah, they 187 00:09:04,426 --> 00:09:07,490 actually say they didn't really explain why they called it a 188 00:09:07,571 --> 00:09:08,152 xenomorph. 189 00:09:08,373 --> 00:09:11,083 Speaker 1: I'm reading the novelization now so that I can 190 00:09:11,586 --> 00:09:13,855 try to make sense out of how they came up with the name, 191 00:09:13,936 --> 00:09:16,322 because it's such a strange name to just start calling this 192 00:09:16,383 --> 00:09:20,331 species that nobody except ripley, at least in this like 193 00:09:20,371 --> 00:09:21,741 sphere, has seen. 194 00:09:21,741 --> 00:09:25,591 You know like I'm very confused about it, so I'm right to see 195 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:27,081 what's what. 196 00:09:27,121 --> 00:09:29,947 Speaker 2: What well it would make sense down the line when 197 00:09:29,988 --> 00:09:33,341 you actually get to the part where you see them. 198 00:09:33,341 --> 00:09:36,995 You know, like in other movies where I mean you kind of talked 199 00:09:37,015 --> 00:09:40,764 a little bit about it, where you start to see different types of 200 00:09:40,764 --> 00:09:41,365 xenomorphs. 201 00:09:41,365 --> 00:09:45,514 So that's where it makes sense, you know, because the xeno kind 202 00:09:45,514 --> 00:09:49,009 of being like alien, and then the morph, you know, for obvious 203 00:09:49,009 --> 00:09:52,201 reasons yeah but yeah, I get what you're coming from. 204 00:09:52,741 --> 00:09:57,529 I guess maybe they're saying it because of how they, you know, 205 00:09:58,071 --> 00:10:03,245 how they kind of like come from the face hugger to impregnate 206 00:10:03,265 --> 00:10:07,994 into a person and I guess they kind of morph into a humanoid 207 00:10:08,053 --> 00:10:12,769 type of creature, unless there's knowledge that isn't explained 208 00:10:13,049 --> 00:10:16,443 like meta or outside knowledge that is not explained in this 209 00:10:16,484 --> 00:10:16,784 movie. 210 00:10:16,784 --> 00:10:18,008 But it's interesting. 211 00:10:18,008 --> 00:10:23,043 When I was watching this movie I was like, yeah, the movie 212 00:10:23,063 --> 00:10:25,750 starship troopers definitely got inspiration from this movie, 213 00:10:26,779 --> 00:10:28,648 definitely got inspiration from this movie. 214 00:10:29,041 --> 00:10:30,606 Speaker 3: The Marines were like the same. 215 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:33,466 Speaker 2: You know I was like OK, like I was like man. 216 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:37,284 Why does this feel so like familiar and like that's what. 217 00:10:37,284 --> 00:10:38,349 That's where I got it? 218 00:10:38,349 --> 00:10:41,389 I was like OK, so they pulled a bit from this. 219 00:10:41,389 --> 00:10:43,504 So it was interesting. 220 00:10:43,504 --> 00:10:49,312 Man Ripley is just like she's's a badass in all these movies. 221 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:51,466 Speaker 1: In pretty much all respects yeah. 222 00:10:51,466 --> 00:10:54,249 Rich you were going to say something about the Xenomorph. 223 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:55,543 Speaker 3: Didn't, ripley. 224 00:10:55,543 --> 00:10:59,914 So I know it was in that dream and I don't believe this was 225 00:10:59,995 --> 00:11:00,480 revisited. 226 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,953 But when she was in the dream before the xenomorph pops out of 227 00:11:05,953 --> 00:11:10,804 her stomach, she's talking to the paul reiser guy and he says 228 00:11:10,825 --> 00:11:15,961 that well, you've been asleep for 57 years yeah right, and I 229 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,491 know that she snapped out of the dream sequence, but I took it 230 00:11:19,572 --> 00:11:22,701 to be that she's been asleep for 57 years. 231 00:11:22,761 --> 00:11:27,663 so we do find out that he knows about this alien and wanted to 232 00:11:27,702 --> 00:11:29,850 bring it back, essentially for the company again. 233 00:11:29,850 --> 00:11:33,720 So I think that they would have developed a name for it, like 234 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:36,048 at least the company has a name for it. 235 00:11:36,509 --> 00:11:40,350 Speaker 1: Right, I guess the in-film logic I'm trying to 236 00:11:40,429 --> 00:11:40,931 understand. 237 00:11:40,931 --> 00:11:45,929 By the way, 57 years thing is the canonical time jump between 238 00:11:45,950 --> 00:11:46,270 film. 239 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:47,653 Yeah, so it is. 240 00:11:47,653 --> 00:11:50,164 That is to be taken as factual. 241 00:11:50,164 --> 00:11:53,452 They explore that more in the in the novel and I believe that 242 00:11:53,613 --> 00:11:56,765 they explore it more in the special edition which adds, like 243 00:11:56,765 --> 00:12:00,393 I think, 15 to 20 minutes oh uh , footage. 244 00:12:00,393 --> 00:12:04,231 So I'll watch that and get back to you guys when we cover 245 00:12:04,352 --> 00:12:05,275 aliens 3 next. 246 00:12:05,275 --> 00:12:08,323 But the in-film logic behind the name xenomorph. 247 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:12,393 She does explain herself a couple times to, or like plenty 248 00:12:12,413 --> 00:12:15,206 of times to that tribunal that they have basically 249 00:12:15,246 --> 00:12:17,301 incriminating her for the destruction of the stroma. 250 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:18,745 And they don't believe her. 251 00:12:18,745 --> 00:12:20,448 They don't, but that's the thing. 252 00:12:20,448 --> 00:12:22,179 They don't believe her about the alien. 253 00:12:22,179 --> 00:12:24,605 There's no evidence of this existing so. 254 00:12:24,605 --> 00:12:28,812 So in the novelization they claim that someone tampered with 255 00:12:28,812 --> 00:12:31,317 the files or, like Ripley believes someone tampered with 256 00:12:31,337 --> 00:12:33,566 the files because there should be plenty of documentation of 257 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:35,311 this thing on board, which there was. 258 00:12:35,311 --> 00:12:38,349 But whatever, they don't really show that in the movie. 259 00:12:38,349 --> 00:12:39,303 Anyhow. 260 00:12:39,303 --> 00:12:41,783 That's why I'm a little bit confused about why they suddenly 261 00:12:41,783 --> 00:12:44,149 have a name for it, because if they didn't believe her, but 262 00:12:44,190 --> 00:12:46,557 then they, I guess they had to have believed her when they went 263 00:12:46,557 --> 00:12:47,240 back to the planet. 264 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,006 You know, it's just interesting . 265 00:12:49,006 --> 00:12:50,625 Yeah, I want to, I want an explanation. 266 00:12:50,625 --> 00:12:53,384 I don't currently, I don't know , that's what's eating me away. 267 00:12:53,485 --> 00:12:54,528 Speaker 3: Good, I wouldn't. 268 00:12:54,528 --> 00:12:56,600 I guess you know what it is. 269 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,927 I think that I watch so many movies like this that I will for 270 00:13:01,927 --> 00:13:05,592 some reason explain away something pretty quickly. 271 00:13:05,592 --> 00:13:08,682 I'm like, oh all right, cool, just with these action movies. 272 00:13:08,682 --> 00:13:11,249 Like, if you just give me a little nugget, I'll kind of like 273 00:13:11,249 --> 00:13:16,326 , because in my head, like paul reiser's character is like part 274 00:13:16,366 --> 00:13:22,004 of like the you know r and d or whatever, like he's on a mission 275 00:13:22,004 --> 00:13:25,774 from like that not everybody knows about, so I could see how 276 00:13:25,794 --> 00:13:26,821 the tribunal would be. 277 00:13:26,821 --> 00:13:29,874 Like we don't know what you're talking about, but you know he 278 00:13:29,933 --> 00:13:30,235 does. 279 00:13:30,235 --> 00:13:34,229 Like they've been doing secret testing or something in the span 280 00:13:34,229 --> 00:13:35,232 could be 57 years. 281 00:13:35,253 --> 00:13:35,894 Speaker 1: Very much could be. 282 00:13:35,894 --> 00:13:37,318 Yeah, anthony. 283 00:13:37,359 --> 00:13:39,702 Speaker 2: Final thoughts on the xenomorph discussion we're 284 00:13:39,722 --> 00:13:42,166 gonna see a lot of them in this movie. 285 00:13:42,986 --> 00:13:48,274 Speaker 1: Yes, we will and a giant queen one yeah, we get a 286 00:13:48,333 --> 00:13:49,355 new one, rich. 287 00:13:49,355 --> 00:13:51,650 What are your thoughts on this movie overall? 288 00:13:51,650 --> 00:13:53,681 I know you talked a little bit about it before we started the 289 00:13:53,701 --> 00:13:56,572 show, but what are your thoughts going into this movie as 290 00:13:56,631 --> 00:13:58,017 opposed to the last film? 291 00:13:58,017 --> 00:13:59,201 I just think that. 292 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,344 Speaker 3: So ridley scott, did you know? 293 00:14:01,344 --> 00:14:07,774 Spoke about how I admired the craft, but it wasn't really my 294 00:14:07,874 --> 00:14:08,634 type of movie. 295 00:14:08,634 --> 00:14:10,927 This was my type of movie. 296 00:14:10,927 --> 00:14:12,202 This was definitely. 297 00:14:12,202 --> 00:14:13,869 I'm an 80s action guy. 298 00:14:13,869 --> 00:14:17,860 This followed all the beats of my 80s action Like. 299 00:14:18,041 --> 00:14:21,030 One of my favorite parts about this movie is so ridiculous. 300 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:25,147 So she becomes like a dock loader right and she starts 301 00:14:25,207 --> 00:14:29,350 working those machines right and I and and when she gets on the 302 00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:31,839 ship and she's like I can help out, I can do something, and 303 00:14:31,859 --> 00:14:33,022 they're like can you? 304 00:14:33,022 --> 00:14:36,090 And she goes and she starts working the lift machine right 305 00:14:36,129 --> 00:14:39,004 which they those look like these cartoons that I used to watch, 306 00:14:39,024 --> 00:14:40,828 these mecha warriors or something. 307 00:14:40,828 --> 00:14:43,062 And it was in space and these guys would like get into these 308 00:14:43,102 --> 00:14:45,327 suits and like fight in very exos exosuits or something. 309 00:14:45,327 --> 00:14:46,630 And it was in space and these guys would like get into these 310 00:14:46,650 --> 00:14:48,254 suits and like fight in very exos exosuits or something like 311 00:14:48,274 --> 00:14:48,355 that. 312 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:48,956 It was called gundam. 313 00:14:48,956 --> 00:14:51,783 No, it was an americanized version of it on channel 11 when 314 00:14:51,783 --> 00:14:52,424 I was growing up. 315 00:14:53,287 --> 00:14:56,102 I'll have to, I'll have to dig a little deeper, but I was so 316 00:14:56,143 --> 00:15:00,096 excited when she got into it and I said in my head, if this is 317 00:15:00,136 --> 00:15:01,780 the type of action movie that I love. 318 00:15:01,780 --> 00:15:07,505 She's gonna do some bad A stuff With those robots, that 319 00:15:07,566 --> 00:15:09,467 mechanism and man. 320 00:15:09,467 --> 00:15:13,110 As it's going along I'm like maybe it's not going to happen 321 00:15:13,331 --> 00:15:15,692 and then she finally gets to use it. 322 00:15:15,692 --> 00:15:20,076 Oh man, that to me wraps up the movie perfectly. 323 00:15:20,076 --> 00:15:21,932 That's how I feel about it. 324 00:15:21,932 --> 00:15:22,259 I was so happy. 325 00:15:22,259 --> 00:15:24,246 There's stuff that annoy me. 326 00:15:24,246 --> 00:15:29,629 Why is Newt the only human in the history of interaction with 327 00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:33,365 these aliens that doesn't get implanted like just, you know, 328 00:15:33,404 --> 00:15:36,993 yeah, we're just gonna store later, you know like like I 329 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,683 think she just stayed away from them. 330 00:15:39,744 --> 00:15:42,489 Speaker 1: She kind of realized what the people who survived a 331 00:15:42,528 --> 00:15:45,855 quiet place realized shut up, oh no, I mean stay quiet. 332 00:15:45,875 --> 00:15:50,072 Speaker 3: I mean when she gets taken by the, oh, like when she 333 00:15:50,091 --> 00:15:50,974 gets taken back to the nest. 334 00:15:50,974 --> 00:15:54,225 Whatever I'm like, come on I think it's timing. 335 00:15:54,566 --> 00:15:56,350 Speaker 1: You know, like I think she literally just got 336 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:59,586 placed there and one of those facehugger things hadn't been 337 00:15:59,787 --> 00:16:02,176 birthed yet that's, that's my understanding. 338 00:16:02,235 --> 00:16:03,620 Speaker 3: Okay, accepted, I'm fine with that. 339 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:05,288 Now I really like this one. 340 00:16:05,327 --> 00:16:08,186 Speaker 2: I know we're only two in, but this is my favorite 341 00:16:08,225 --> 00:16:12,441 installment by far okay yeah, no , I think dakota's right, it's 342 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,386 not like hours went by, I think there's like minutes, you know, 343 00:16:15,969 --> 00:16:18,033 so yeah, because it was. 344 00:16:18,212 --> 00:16:22,547 Speaker 1: It was something like she had, uh, 19 minutes by the 345 00:16:22,586 --> 00:16:24,870 time that you know she realized. 346 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:27,780 Oh, I still have time to go grab this girl, you know, yeah, 347 00:16:27,801 --> 00:16:31,168 so it was something like that, yeah yeah, man, this movie 348 00:16:31,307 --> 00:16:32,070 definitely. 349 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:36,105 Speaker 2: They tried to put some of the creepy vibes in it, 350 00:16:36,405 --> 00:16:41,077 you know, especially when the and you know, obviously in in 351 00:16:41,097 --> 00:16:42,761 true project ecology form. 352 00:16:42,761 --> 00:16:45,205 You know we're gonna be bouncing, bouncing around a lot, 353 00:16:45,205 --> 00:16:49,812 but the part where the aliens were in the roof and the motion 354 00:16:49,831 --> 00:16:55,046 tracker was tracking a bunch of them, so that was the moment 355 00:16:55,125 --> 00:16:57,672 where they were trying to add that creepy. 356 00:16:57,672 --> 00:17:00,864 They're like, okay, this is alien, we have to have something 357 00:17:00,864 --> 00:17:01,606 creepy in here. 358 00:17:01,606 --> 00:17:04,949 So I think that was like the attempt for it. 359 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:07,423 And I mean, you know, like it was crazy. 360 00:17:07,423 --> 00:17:11,131 When he like opens up the panel up on the roof and you just see 361 00:17:11,131 --> 00:17:14,766 all those xenomorphs up there, I'm like, yeah, it's time to go. 362 00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:17,584 Speaker 1: And they're creepy man, they are just inherently. 363 00:17:17,584 --> 00:17:28,859 You know, they're always somehow super juicy, juicy. 364 00:17:28,859 --> 00:17:29,844 Speaking of which I'm gonna pause the podcast. 365 00:17:29,844 --> 00:17:31,028 You, listener, have not rated our podcast a five-star juicy 366 00:17:31,067 --> 00:17:33,296 review, yet you need to give us a five-star juicy review, 367 00:17:33,901 --> 00:17:42,506 otherwise we're just gonna stop talking think xenomorph they 368 00:17:42,566 --> 00:17:43,887 really are always like. 369 00:17:43,887 --> 00:17:45,871 They're always so moist. 370 00:17:45,871 --> 00:17:47,032 What's up with this? 371 00:17:47,574 --> 00:17:50,384 Speaker 2: every surface I was re-watching. 372 00:17:50,384 --> 00:17:53,771 It's funny because sometimes it's like running water dude, 373 00:17:53,811 --> 00:17:54,713 like what is crazy? 374 00:17:54,713 --> 00:17:56,005 Where's it coming from? 375 00:17:56,184 --> 00:17:59,115 Speaker 1: yeah, I was watching alien one today and there's this 376 00:17:59,115 --> 00:18:02,122 scene where she enters the shuttle at the end of the movie 377 00:18:02,682 --> 00:18:04,984 and you know, you know, there's just that alien tucked away 378 00:18:05,085 --> 00:18:08,888 napping in a corner and there's a slow shot of its hands, like 379 00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:12,834 lifting up from the computer terminal, and it's just like 380 00:18:13,173 --> 00:18:18,726 this guy was whoever the actor was literally dipped his hand in 381 00:18:18,726 --> 00:18:20,039 Vaseline or something and just like smeared it everywhere. 382 00:18:20,039 --> 00:18:24,230 It was the craziest amount of fluid I've ever seen for a hand. 383 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:27,450 So anyway, these guys are juicy . 384 00:18:27,450 --> 00:18:30,347 They are the juiciest things we've ever encountered. 385 00:18:30,347 --> 00:18:31,651 On Project Ecology. 386 00:18:32,140 --> 00:18:34,567 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not the good kind of juicy though 387 00:18:34,808 --> 00:18:35,309 it's not. 388 00:18:36,201 --> 00:18:39,790 Speaker 1: But it could be if you give us a five-star juicy 389 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:40,071 review. 390 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:41,845 Speaker 2: Yes, give us the non-acidic. 391 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:44,601 Speaker 1: The non-acidic. 392 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:50,292 The non-acidic version yeah, so I have yet to properly like, 393 00:18:50,313 --> 00:18:51,704 give my my take on this movie. 394 00:18:51,704 --> 00:18:52,448 I really enjoy it. 395 00:18:52,448 --> 00:18:55,500 This is the one that I think is kind of the quintessential 396 00:18:56,923 --> 00:18:59,971 alien movie in a way, even though you need the first movie 397 00:19:00,653 --> 00:19:01,516 to watch this one. 398 00:19:01,516 --> 00:19:02,819 This is the adventure. 399 00:19:02,819 --> 00:19:06,763 This is where the hobbits finally go to Mordor, this is 400 00:19:07,365 --> 00:19:11,086 where it all goes down and it's a totally different vibe. 401 00:19:11,688 --> 00:19:14,540 But coming at it which is weird that I'm saying this because 402 00:19:15,304 --> 00:19:18,383 Aliens was always my favorite one but I'm going to have to 403 00:19:18,483 --> 00:19:22,895 actually say coming at it, as an adult that has been critiquing 404 00:19:22,915 --> 00:19:24,253 movies for about a decade now, I have to edge out for the 405 00:19:24,221 --> 00:19:24,644 original Alien by Rid at it. 406 00:19:24,644 --> 00:19:25,363 As you know, like an adult that has been critiquing movies for 407 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:25,772 about a decade now I have to. 408 00:19:25,772 --> 00:19:30,155 I have to edge out for the original alien by really scott I 409 00:19:30,155 --> 00:19:30,155 . 410 00:19:30,155 --> 00:19:34,763 I do believe this has the more exciting story, this has the 411 00:19:34,804 --> 00:19:35,724 more engagement. 412 00:19:35,724 --> 00:19:40,902 But pound for pound I'm when I watch alien I'm like, oh wow, 413 00:19:40,942 --> 00:19:41,824 that's an incredible shot. 414 00:19:41,824 --> 00:19:44,249 Oh wow, that was such a cool effect. 415 00:19:44,249 --> 00:19:46,053 Oh wow, how did they do that? 416 00:19:47,161 --> 00:19:50,222 When I'm watching Aliens I'm thinking, all right, let's get 417 00:19:50,262 --> 00:19:53,204 the job done, let's go to the next scene, let's go here, let's 418 00:19:53,204 --> 00:19:53,506 go there. 419 00:19:53,506 --> 00:19:57,383 It's a totally different vibe and I feel like, yeah, I do 420 00:19:57,423 --> 00:20:00,599 think Ridley Scott is the better visual director and that's 421 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:03,383 actually kind of why I like the new film that came out recently, 422 00:20:03,383 --> 00:20:07,969 alien Romulus, is because it has the adventure aspects of 423 00:20:08,128 --> 00:20:12,374 aliens, but it also has the horror and the dread that you 424 00:20:12,433 --> 00:20:14,615 get from Alien 1. 425 00:20:14,615 --> 00:20:18,107 And Fade Alvarez, the director of that one, did such a 426 00:20:18,148 --> 00:20:19,211 tremendous job in my opinion. 427 00:20:19,211 --> 00:20:22,364 I can't wait till we cover that one and, yeah, I'll talk about 428 00:20:22,403 --> 00:20:26,460 that more when we get there, but yeah, that's my thoughts that 429 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,923 one and yeah, I'll talk about that more when we get there. 430 00:20:27,942 --> 00:20:28,825 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's my thoughts. 431 00:20:28,825 --> 00:20:30,107 Yeah, I kind of agree with you because I feel like alien does 432 00:20:30,127 --> 00:20:33,742 need that creep factor right and you don't really get that much 433 00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:39,212 in this one, not the way that you do in the first one, and a 434 00:20:39,272 --> 00:20:42,164 lot of that has to do with the shots right. 435 00:20:42,164 --> 00:20:46,073 You get the close-ups, the utilization of darkness. 436 00:20:46,073 --> 00:20:50,747 You know there's darkness in this one, but this one is pretty 437 00:20:50,747 --> 00:20:52,531 much a pure action movie. 438 00:20:52,531 --> 00:20:56,741 Yes, it is the movie that's a bit more fun to watch because 439 00:20:56,781 --> 00:20:57,967 there is a lot going on. 440 00:20:57,967 --> 00:21:03,656 And when you think about the Alien series, I think about this 441 00:21:03,656 --> 00:21:09,609 one and the third one and there's a couple of shots that 442 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:11,515 always make me think of the series. 443 00:21:11,515 --> 00:21:18,407 And the second one it's ripley and that exoskeleton yeah I 444 00:21:18,488 --> 00:21:19,148 always think of that. 445 00:21:19,288 --> 00:21:24,585 And then the third one is ridley looking away with the xenomorph 446 00:21:24,585 --> 00:21:28,366 , like right up on her it's, yeah, there's yeah, yeah, and 447 00:21:28,386 --> 00:21:31,641 we'll talk more about that next week, but you know that's what 448 00:21:31,681 --> 00:21:32,061 I'm saying. 449 00:21:32,102 --> 00:21:35,436 Like you know, when I think of the alien series, I think mostly 450 00:21:35,436 --> 00:21:39,785 of aliens and an alien 3 because of some of these shots. 451 00:21:39,785 --> 00:21:45,800 But it was nice going back to see that first one and, from 452 00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:50,468 what it seems, is like the the director of romulus wanted the 453 00:21:50,548 --> 00:21:55,540 best of both worlds when it came to alien and aliens. 454 00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:59,769 Because you don't want an almost two hour slog fest, you 455 00:21:59,808 --> 00:22:02,278 know you gotta have some sort of like adrenaline, especially 456 00:22:02,358 --> 00:22:04,682 nowadays, right, and you do have to. 457 00:22:04,682 --> 00:22:09,028 Even with all the shots and stuff, you do go a very long 458 00:22:09,088 --> 00:22:13,241 time in the first one with like, mostly dialogue. 459 00:22:13,301 --> 00:22:16,387 It's a, it's like dialogue, dialogue, dialogue, yeah yeah, 460 00:22:16,448 --> 00:22:19,780 yeah, you know, and and you know so it can be a little bit of a 461 00:22:19,861 --> 00:22:21,463 slog in that first one. 462 00:22:21,463 --> 00:22:27,080 But once that buildup happens and the stuff starts to happen, 463 00:22:27,541 --> 00:22:30,127 that's where the genius really happens in the film. 464 00:22:30,734 --> 00:22:32,258 Speaker 1: And I think Aliens. 465 00:22:32,258 --> 00:22:36,185 The second one I hate the titling structure of these 466 00:22:36,207 --> 00:22:36,487 movies. 467 00:22:36,487 --> 00:22:37,209 I've always hated them. 468 00:22:37,209 --> 00:22:39,059 I feel like it's hard to just. 469 00:22:39,059 --> 00:22:43,151 You know, it's so easy to just say Alien or Aliens and 470 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:44,634 miscommunicate which one you're talking about. 471 00:22:44,634 --> 00:22:48,521 I'm talking about the sequel, the squeakquel Aliens plural. 472 00:22:50,175 --> 00:22:52,801 Speaker 3: Is that a reference to the Chipmunks movies? 473 00:22:52,801 --> 00:22:54,185 Perhaps? 474 00:22:54,787 --> 00:22:57,714 Speaker 1: Perhaps Deep cut, deep cut. 475 00:22:57,714 --> 00:22:59,682 It's a movie I've never even seen before. 476 00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:00,637 I just like the term squeakquel . 477 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:02,203 Speaker 3: Oh, I have, I have, sir. 478 00:23:03,277 --> 00:23:04,298 Speaker 1: I bet you have Rich. 479 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:07,104 Speaker 2: That is going to be the movie we are covering next 480 00:23:07,144 --> 00:23:08,185 week, that would be amazing. 481 00:23:08,185 --> 00:23:09,949 You thought we were covering Alien 3? 482 00:23:09,949 --> 00:23:13,991 No, it is going to be Alvin and the Chipmunks, the first movie 483 00:23:14,011 --> 00:23:16,560 no, no the squeakquel, we just jump right in. 484 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,983 So we're just going to completely jump over the first 485 00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:20,535 one we're just going to go straight to the squeakquel. 486 00:23:21,195 --> 00:23:21,717 Speaker 1: I don't need to. 487 00:23:21,957 --> 00:23:24,642 It's not like Aliens where I need the first movie to 488 00:23:24,701 --> 00:23:27,326 understand that these talking chipmunks are going to get into 489 00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:28,288 some trouble or something. 490 00:23:28,288 --> 00:23:30,115 I don't even know what that's about, guys. 491 00:23:30,115 --> 00:23:31,361 So what I was saying is Aliens. 492 00:23:31,361 --> 00:23:35,856 The second one it requires sorry, it doesn't require it's 493 00:23:36,258 --> 00:23:39,926 kind of the movie that the rest of the series kind of anchors on 494 00:23:39,926 --> 00:23:39,926 . 495 00:23:39,926 --> 00:23:43,736 It helps explain what happens in the first movie and it 496 00:23:43,836 --> 00:23:47,045 definitely moves the plot forward towards the third and 497 00:23:47,065 --> 00:23:50,877 fourth movies and it definitely moves the plot forward towards 498 00:23:50,897 --> 00:23:52,221 the third and fourth movies and I think that that is, you know, 499 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,423 a huge role that this movie plays. 500 00:23:53,604 --> 00:23:56,316 It gives us a lot of information , tells us what the xenomorphs 501 00:23:56,396 --> 00:24:00,125 are, tells us how they, their breeding cycle works, because in 502 00:24:00,125 --> 00:24:02,798 the first movie we didn't know that there was another step 503 00:24:03,038 --> 00:24:04,039 before the eggs. 504 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:08,468 You know, we just kind of assumed that somehow eggs 505 00:24:08,548 --> 00:24:09,169 disappeared. 506 00:24:09,169 --> 00:24:14,569 Or, you know, it was like a, like a mono sex species where, 507 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:17,959 like it, was neither male nor female, it just reproduced by 508 00:24:17,999 --> 00:24:18,319 itself. 509 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:20,265 We didn't know, we didn't have any answers. 510 00:24:20,265 --> 00:24:21,327 Now we have some answers. 511 00:24:21,327 --> 00:24:25,761 So I do give James Cameron some serious props. 512 00:24:25,761 --> 00:24:30,430 He did expand on the universe quite a bit. 513 00:24:30,430 --> 00:24:33,744 We didn't have a name for the planet that they were on. 514 00:24:33,744 --> 00:24:36,255 Now it's LV-426. 515 00:24:36,255 --> 00:24:38,080 And what else? 516 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,044 Speaker 3: Did I miss this? 517 00:24:39,044 --> 00:24:46,585 So we're supposed to believe that the alien they got to LV in 518 00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:50,990 the original got to lv two, two , four two, six yeah they, they 519 00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:51,471 land. 520 00:24:51,471 --> 00:24:56,125 The alien is actually on a ship , not on the planet itself. 521 00:24:56,125 --> 00:25:00,715 Ripley believes that all of them are killed and that's what 522 00:25:00,756 --> 00:25:01,616 we see at the end. 523 00:25:01,616 --> 00:25:06,545 She wakes up and they've had a colony there and they haven't 524 00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:10,596 had any prior incidents to like right after she happens to wake 525 00:25:10,696 --> 00:25:12,099 up is so? 526 00:25:12,661 --> 00:25:15,626 Speaker 1: they don't explain it super well in the film and I 527 00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,319 don't think they explain it very well so far in the book that 528 00:25:18,339 --> 00:25:18,760 I'm reading. 529 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:25,621 But we do know that there were other eggs on the alien ship, 530 00:25:25,661 --> 00:25:26,942 the derelict shipped in the. 531 00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:28,365 In the first movie we saw that. 532 00:25:28,365 --> 00:25:33,037 You know, kane only goes up to one of the eggs and that's the 533 00:25:33,176 --> 00:25:36,105 one that has the facehugger pop out and, you know, give him a 534 00:25:36,125 --> 00:25:36,286 kiss. 535 00:25:36,286 --> 00:25:39,022 We don't know that there are thousands. 536 00:25:39,115 --> 00:25:42,304 She claims that there are thousands on this planet in that 537 00:25:42,304 --> 00:25:47,045 derelict ship but we only see maybe a dozen from the first 538 00:25:47,085 --> 00:25:47,346 movie. 539 00:25:47,346 --> 00:25:49,557 But we know that there are others because we only saw the 540 00:25:49,596 --> 00:25:52,583 single alien on their ship, the nostromo. 541 00:25:52,583 --> 00:25:56,460 So she's worried that you know like these aliens are still out 542 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,087 there, they need to bomb the hell out of that place. 543 00:25:58,087 --> 00:26:00,136 Whatever they don't believe her . 544 00:26:00,136 --> 00:26:04,125 They've already sent a team of people to explore the planet. 545 00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:08,002 We don't know how close they are on the planet to the 546 00:26:08,042 --> 00:26:13,383 derelict ship, so it's possible they don't ever really encounter 547 00:26:13,383 --> 00:26:13,522 it. 548 00:26:13,522 --> 00:26:18,915 We don't know how the aliens broke out of that cycle and 549 00:26:19,016 --> 00:26:23,526 found like fresh meat you know, like meats back on the menu at 550 00:26:23,566 --> 00:26:24,047 this place. 551 00:26:24,047 --> 00:26:27,603 But we don't know how that happens, anthony I was waiting. 552 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: I was waiting for that reference to come up. 553 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,324 It was either gonna be dakota or rich. 554 00:26:33,384 --> 00:26:36,777 Speaker 3: I love it so much how do they even know what a menu? 555 00:26:36,998 --> 00:26:40,263 Speaker 1: is these aliens are well fed. 556 00:26:40,263 --> 00:26:41,346 I'll just put it. 557 00:26:41,346 --> 00:26:45,940 They go to the finest uh restaurants this side of lv426 558 00:26:46,862 --> 00:26:50,469 that, yeah, that queen is well fed how did she get that big? 559 00:26:51,156 --> 00:26:52,080 how'd she get that belly? 560 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,085 Don't know? 561 00:26:53,085 --> 00:26:53,887 Oh, it was. 562 00:26:53,887 --> 00:26:54,871 Let's talk about the queen. 563 00:26:54,871 --> 00:26:57,440 We've danced around the topic of the queen a little bit. 564 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,144 What are crazy concepts? 565 00:26:59,144 --> 00:27:04,559 I love the scene where ripley has just saved newt. 566 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,423 She's looking around. 567 00:27:06,423 --> 00:27:11,298 Actually, your background is that scene where Ripley is in 568 00:27:11,338 --> 00:27:16,528 the midst of all of those eggs and she holds all the firepower 569 00:27:16,587 --> 00:27:17,148 in her hands. 570 00:27:17,148 --> 00:27:21,268 The Queen basically tells all of her grunts to leave because, 571 00:27:21,327 --> 00:27:25,480 like she doesn't want Ripley to do anything stupid, ripley goes 572 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,886 and could have just made an easy escape. 573 00:27:27,886 --> 00:27:32,467 You know, there was some like mutual appreciation of what her 574 00:27:32,527 --> 00:27:34,152 firepower was capable of. 575 00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:38,022 And then Ripley turns around and just like you know what, nah 576 00:27:38,022 --> 00:27:40,250 and just flame blasts. 577 00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:43,838 Everything Starts blowing chunks out of the queen to the 578 00:27:43,878 --> 00:27:47,346 point where the queen just rips her own abdomen off and starts 579 00:27:47,426 --> 00:27:48,429 chasing her up the ship. 580 00:27:48,756 --> 00:27:52,688 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's wild yeah, this, yeah, this movie is 581 00:27:52,688 --> 00:27:53,209 crazy. 582 00:27:53,209 --> 00:27:54,432 Yeah, that's why I picked. 583 00:27:54,432 --> 00:27:57,603 I picked that, because that scene it was funny, because, 584 00:27:57,623 --> 00:28:01,355 yeah, like she ripley gave like essentially like a warning shot, 585 00:28:01,355 --> 00:28:03,199 like you know, look, I have this. 586 00:28:03,199 --> 00:28:06,244 Like you know, she sprayed the flamethrower like kind of in the 587 00:28:06,244 --> 00:28:10,357 air and the queen kind of yeah, made like that shriek and then 588 00:28:10,858 --> 00:28:15,229 waved off the other like xenomorph grunts and, yeah, man, 589 00:28:15,229 --> 00:28:18,502 when she she just like turned around, torched it, I was like, 590 00:28:18,984 --> 00:28:19,866 yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 591 00:28:19,866 --> 00:28:21,940 I was like man, she could have probably gotten out of there, 592 00:28:22,059 --> 00:28:25,056 but then again, after she left, you know, the queen would have 593 00:28:25,076 --> 00:28:26,279 just sent them right after her. 594 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:28,997 So so she was like, yeah, you know what I'm just going to take 595 00:28:28,997 --> 00:28:30,141 some down with me, you know. 596 00:28:30,763 --> 00:28:31,395 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rich. 597 00:28:31,395 --> 00:28:32,320 What are your thoughts on the Queen? 598 00:28:34,555 --> 00:28:38,765 Speaker 3: It's just so great because it feels like you know, 599 00:28:39,346 --> 00:28:43,161 this is only my second one, it's only you know, I've watched now 600 00:28:43,161 --> 00:28:45,567 twice for the first one and twice for the second one. 601 00:28:45,567 --> 00:28:50,618 You really get the feeling like , oh, it's over, right, like she 602 00:28:50,618 --> 00:28:55,048 did it day's over, and then it's like nope, and I just I 603 00:28:55,107 --> 00:28:57,901 kind of love that feeling, because it was the same when I 604 00:28:57,941 --> 00:28:58,983 was watching the first one. 605 00:28:58,983 --> 00:29:03,122 When she gets into the shuttle and I'm I'm so bad about this, I 606 00:29:03,122 --> 00:29:06,409 really wish I had better self-control, but I do like to 607 00:29:06,474 --> 00:29:09,244 compulsively like check how much time is left in something. 608 00:29:09,244 --> 00:29:12,641 I'm not sure if this is because Game of Thrones broke me so 609 00:29:12,701 --> 00:29:17,214 much, where I was like you're jibbing us of more content, but 610 00:29:17,996 --> 00:29:20,699 I tend, especially if we're going to review something, 611 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,083 sometimes I think I, or if I'm going to teach something, I 612 00:29:24,182 --> 00:29:25,765 really want to know how much time is left, because I'm trying 613 00:29:25,765 --> 00:29:28,268 to figure out what story beats they could possibly do. 614 00:29:28,268 --> 00:29:30,351 Next, right, and, and the first one, since I didn't know 615 00:29:30,411 --> 00:29:30,770 anything. 616 00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:33,580 Sure, she gets in the shuttle and I'm like tapping the screen. 617 00:29:33,580 --> 00:29:35,345 I'm just like that's weird. 618 00:29:35,345 --> 00:29:37,778 I mean, what exactly is gonna? 619 00:29:37,778 --> 00:29:42,126 Oh, so I was waiting after she got nude, right, I was like that 620 00:29:42,126 --> 00:29:43,189 was a little too easy. 621 00:29:43,189 --> 00:29:47,585 I'm like something's gotta happen and I just I was so happy 622 00:29:47,585 --> 00:29:50,698 when I saw the queen and when she rips herself off like in 623 00:29:50,738 --> 00:29:56,489 half and runs, it's just insane and I was creeped out by her, 624 00:29:57,457 --> 00:29:58,117 although I wasn't. 625 00:29:58,117 --> 00:30:01,085 They remind me of like these cave dwellers in the skyrim 626 00:30:01,105 --> 00:30:05,662 series, these uh chitlin or something like kind of these uh 627 00:30:05,862 --> 00:30:09,148 underground scorpions that attack you and it was kind of 628 00:30:09,355 --> 00:30:10,680 very reminiscent of that. 629 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,429 And man, I've played enough video games. 630 00:30:13,429 --> 00:30:17,019 Like I knew riley was gonna turn around, you gotta torch the 631 00:30:17,019 --> 00:30:17,779 eggs, like that's. 632 00:30:17,779 --> 00:30:22,455 That's like heroing 101, you know, if you see a batch of bad 633 00:30:22,476 --> 00:30:23,698 guy eggs, you gotta burn them. 634 00:30:23,698 --> 00:30:29,627 So yeah, it's not exactly the artistic level of the last one, 635 00:30:29,667 --> 00:30:31,737 but man, it's just a rip-roaring good time. 636 00:30:31,836 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: I oh, it's a fun movie. 637 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,301 It is. 638 00:30:34,301 --> 00:30:39,577 That is something james cameron is so good at, especially when 639 00:30:39,597 --> 00:30:42,806 it comes to, you know, like as soon as there's something to 640 00:30:42,846 --> 00:30:47,903 protect, oh, he protects it with his life, you know when paul 641 00:30:47,983 --> 00:30:53,140 riser like ends up locking the doors as he's running away, oh, 642 00:30:53,380 --> 00:30:55,865 I was like he better get his just desserts. 643 00:30:56,445 --> 00:30:58,355 Speaker 3: And then, like he gets cornered, I'm like that's 644 00:30:58,395 --> 00:30:59,117 what you get. 645 00:30:59,117 --> 00:31:02,486 Paul riser, I thought you were a good guy who took care of a 646 00:31:02,547 --> 00:31:05,759 girl with another guy, but no it was crazy. 647 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,546 Speaker 1: He totally turned against everything that he 648 00:31:08,605 --> 00:31:09,007 promised. 649 00:31:09,007 --> 00:31:11,859 She, in the beginning of the movie, was just like all right, 650 00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:14,497 only if you promise that we're gonna blow these things to hell, 651 00:31:14,497 --> 00:31:16,782 or something along those lines I don't remember the exact 652 00:31:16,803 --> 00:31:19,218 phrase and he's just like you have my word. 653 00:31:19,218 --> 00:31:23,371 And then, like midway through the movie, the uh, bishop, the 654 00:31:23,411 --> 00:31:27,782 synth or the android, he goes wait a minute, but burke told me 655 00:31:27,782 --> 00:31:29,027 to do the exact opposite. 656 00:31:29,027 --> 00:31:32,400 He wants to bring us one of the specimens home and she just 657 00:31:32,461 --> 00:31:38,877 looks at him like you mfr uh yeah, it, definitely it. 658 00:31:39,179 --> 00:31:42,951 It is a really funny betrayal and it's just corporate greed. 659 00:31:42,951 --> 00:31:47,644 It's just literal corporate greed to to it's like, to its 660 00:31:47,703 --> 00:31:49,028 like late stage capitalism. 661 00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:50,380 This is what happens. 662 00:31:50,674 --> 00:31:52,721 Speaker 3: And I don't want to pigeonhole actors, but did you 663 00:31:52,801 --> 00:31:53,704 like Anthony? 664 00:31:53,704 --> 00:31:54,636 Have you seen? 665 00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:56,661 I don't know about you, but anything else? 666 00:31:56,661 --> 00:31:58,625 I've seen this actor in Paul Reiser. 667 00:31:58,625 --> 00:31:59,688 He's a good guy, right. 668 00:31:59,688 --> 00:32:04,444 So I actually bought into his charisma and shtick. 669 00:32:04,444 --> 00:32:05,387 I was like he's a good guy. 670 00:32:05,387 --> 00:32:08,378 Am I the only one who didn't see this coming? 671 00:32:09,401 --> 00:32:11,964 Speaker 1: let's look up some movies that we might have seen 672 00:32:12,045 --> 00:32:16,101 him in, because and it's- like it's like you know, here, here 673 00:32:16,141 --> 00:32:16,803 we go again. 674 00:32:16,903 --> 00:32:18,911 Speaker 2: You know we got ian home all over again. 675 00:32:18,911 --> 00:32:21,939 Like these people want to bring this freaking creature back 676 00:32:21,979 --> 00:32:22,661 home, man. 677 00:32:22,661 --> 00:32:25,968 But it's tough because I mean but. 678 00:32:25,968 --> 00:32:28,298 But like, honestly, after everything that they've gone 679 00:32:28,338 --> 00:32:31,926 through you, you know it's like at that point I'd be like man, 680 00:32:31,946 --> 00:32:32,607 forget this. 681 00:32:32,607 --> 00:32:36,286 I don't give a dang what the company says. 682 00:32:36,286 --> 00:32:37,922 Like these things are insane. 683 00:32:37,922 --> 00:32:39,800 Like why would I bring this back? 684 00:32:40,415 --> 00:32:47,875 You know, but like still no, oh oh, duty is duty, duty is duty. 685 00:32:47,875 --> 00:32:49,038 Honestly, to tell you the truth , bro, I'm the kind of person 686 00:32:49,058 --> 00:32:50,202 that, like if I saw something that was like insanely like, 687 00:32:50,222 --> 00:32:52,790 insanely crazy, that was gonna get me killed, I don't care if I 688 00:32:52,790 --> 00:32:54,919 get fired, I'm gone, I'm out of there. 689 00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:58,685 Speaker 1: I'm blowing these things up yeah, yeah, it's 690 00:32:58,766 --> 00:33:01,779 pretty crazy and I think that's just a running theme throughout 691 00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:06,397 all of alien it's just like dude , there's gonna be guys who they 692 00:33:06,397 --> 00:33:07,058 want the money. 693 00:33:07,058 --> 00:33:09,886 They for some they need it for this weapons program man. 694 00:33:10,996 --> 00:33:12,903 Speaker 2: I mean, what's that money going to do if you're dead 695 00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:12,903 ? 696 00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:14,461 And that's what happens. 697 00:33:15,015 --> 00:33:17,251 Speaker 1: Anthony, you brought something up that I find really 698 00:33:17,332 --> 00:33:17,694 interesting. 699 00:33:17,694 --> 00:33:25,910 Just on a lore and almost like a theological or thematic level, 700 00:33:25,910 --> 00:33:27,421 you called it the company. 701 00:33:27,421 --> 00:33:29,300 Because they call it the company. 702 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:33,806 You know everyone is owned by this company. 703 00:33:33,806 --> 00:33:38,840 They never say the name aloud in the movie, but we do see that 704 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:38,840 . 705 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,817 You know it's again so like they have Weyland-Yutani all 706 00:33:42,877 --> 00:33:44,544 over the first movie and now they have Weyland. 707 00:33:45,176 --> 00:33:46,983 They've added a D for some reason in this movie, 708 00:33:47,115 --> 00:33:51,328 Weyland-Yutani's all over the the background of that movie and 709 00:33:51,328 --> 00:33:54,076 they've got a new logo and everything and that's the logo. 710 00:33:54,076 --> 00:33:56,080 That is continued throughout the rest of the series. 711 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,440 But they don't ever name the company wayland yutani out loud 712 00:34:01,579 --> 00:34:05,929 and it's it's just almost like a reverent the company capital c. 713 00:34:05,929 --> 00:34:09,664 You know like they're all beholden to the company. 714 00:34:09,664 --> 00:34:13,121 You know everything that they do is for the company or, you 715 00:34:13,161 --> 00:34:17,257 know, against the company and ripley's case, um, and another 716 00:34:17,297 --> 00:34:22,527 thing that they still don't do is in the theatrical cut. 717 00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:25,481 I don't believe they ever call her ellen ripley. 718 00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:29,135 I think she's still ripley throughout the entire movie, 719 00:34:29,175 --> 00:34:29,836 even the credits. 720 00:34:30,137 --> 00:34:32,985 Speaker 3: Actually I looked, I I wanted to pay attention to 721 00:34:33,025 --> 00:34:37,403 that and the credits others have two names. 722 00:34:37,403 --> 00:34:40,271 She's still just ripley she's still just ripley. 723 00:34:40,452 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: It's the most bizarre , like it's this one. 724 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,766 I actually don't really understand, because in the 725 00:34:45,826 --> 00:34:48,219 novelization and the special edition they do call, call her 726 00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:52,041 Ellen a couple times, but for some reason they kept that out 727 00:34:52,141 --> 00:34:55,599 of the theatrical cut and maybe that's just an homage to how 728 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,206 she's like, utilized in the first movie or you know the role 729 00:34:59,206 --> 00:35:00,829 that she plays, the character that she plays. 730 00:35:00,829 --> 00:35:03,902 Another thing that I didn't even touch in this movie is that 731 00:35:03,902 --> 00:35:09,342 Ellen Ripley had a daughter on Earth and that was a big plot of 732 00:35:09,342 --> 00:35:10,545 the special edition. 733 00:35:10,545 --> 00:35:14,092 She was really hurt that she missed out on the entire life of 734 00:35:14,092 --> 00:35:16,956 her daughter because she was in cryosleep for Wait, does her 735 00:35:16,996 --> 00:35:19,664 daughter die while she's in cryosleep? 736 00:35:20,755 --> 00:35:21,036 Speaker 3: Just? 737 00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,204 Shortly before she wakes up. 738 00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:24,681 That's really bad luck. 739 00:35:25,721 --> 00:35:27,873 Speaker 1: I know it's almost as if it's hitting that way. 740 00:35:28,414 --> 00:35:30,804 Speaker 2: Well, maybe because Ripley just sounds cooler. 741 00:35:31,675 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: Ripley does sound. 742 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,916 I mean, yeah, Ripley's really cool, ripley. 743 00:35:33,976 --> 00:35:37,016 Speaker 2: I mean like and that's exactly what she does she 744 00:35:37,016 --> 00:35:39,463 Ripleys them a new one, you know. 745 00:35:40,615 --> 00:35:42,362 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, she Ripleys. 746 00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:44,159 Speaker 3: I was waiting. 747 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:45,942 I was waiting for the next pause. 748 00:35:47,563 --> 00:35:48,824 Speaker 1: Sorry, I was waiting. 749 00:35:48,824 --> 00:35:50,927 I was waiting for the next pause. 750 00:35:50,927 --> 00:35:51,327 Sorry, oh my gosh. 751 00:35:51,327 --> 00:35:52,628 Sorry, I'm taking all the good quotes today. 752 00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:54,110 Guys, I'll hold back from now on. 753 00:35:54,110 --> 00:36:02,036 Yeah, let's talk about the Marines, because there's a lot 754 00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:02,958 of fun that is to be had with the Marines. 755 00:36:02,958 --> 00:36:05,628 I think the actor who clearly had the most fun was Bill Paxton 756 00:36:05,628 --> 00:36:05,628 . 757 00:36:05,628 --> 00:36:07,152 It's game over man. 758 00:36:07,152 --> 00:36:07,634 It's game over this. 759 00:36:07,634 --> 00:36:11,010 It's game over this guy was throwing a fit the entire movie 760 00:36:11,175 --> 00:36:14,922 as soon as anything happened for the next hour and a half, this 761 00:36:14,961 --> 00:36:18,469 guy was sweating bullets, crapping his pants. 762 00:36:18,469 --> 00:36:20,342 He was jumping all over the place. 763 00:36:20,342 --> 00:36:24,619 He was the most fun person to watch and you hate him because 764 00:36:24,661 --> 00:36:25,422 he's such a loser. 765 00:36:25,422 --> 00:36:28,523 He's all talk, no walk, basically. 766 00:36:28,523 --> 00:36:30,460 See, I held him up as a. 767 00:36:31,956 --> 00:36:35,284 Speaker 3: I was like, if I had signed up to be a Marine, sure 768 00:36:35,324 --> 00:36:35,565 Okay. 769 00:36:35,565 --> 00:36:39,425 And then that happens Uh-uh, uh-uh. 770 00:36:39,425 --> 00:36:42,922 I'm here to fight people, you know, space cannons, whatever 771 00:36:43,795 --> 00:36:44,621 this was. 772 00:36:44,621 --> 00:36:47,717 I mean, oh, I don't play. 773 00:36:47,717 --> 00:36:48,880 I love the actor. 774 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:52,507 Speaker 1: He's I know I love he's great in weird science. 775 00:36:52,547 --> 00:36:52,969 Speaker 3: I love him. 776 00:36:52,969 --> 00:36:55,961 I think he's yeah he brings the levity to it. 777 00:36:55,961 --> 00:36:58,496 You know, he's like the only guy who could have, I'm sorry, 778 00:36:58,516 --> 00:37:03,490 the, not proximity, but the, the tracker, whatever that they had 779 00:37:03,490 --> 00:37:06,619 , the motion detector, you know I kind of like that he was in 780 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,664 control, like he was in control of that. 781 00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:09,606 That was his role. 782 00:37:09,606 --> 00:37:13,998 I like, when you kind of need an analog for the audience and a 783 00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:17,166 little bit of safety valve, I agree, you know, and he's like 784 00:37:17,206 --> 00:37:21,286 the because in the first one I mean, yeah, they, you know, 785 00:37:21,367 --> 00:37:23,996 obviously you have the issue with mr robot over there 786 00:37:24,295 --> 00:37:26,340 sneaking everything on and he's kind of pulling the strings 787 00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:26,782 behind. 788 00:37:26,782 --> 00:37:31,760 But this is more of obviously a trained military unit. 789 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,516 You know that they signed up for this. 790 00:37:33,516 --> 00:37:37,443 But I still feel like when there's something completely out 791 00:37:37,443 --> 00:37:41,257 of the ordinary, you know, like if a cop gets called to an 792 00:37:41,358 --> 00:37:44,346 accident and shows up and there's a dragon there, like I 793 00:37:44,385 --> 00:37:46,876 don't blame him if he pieces out , and it's like I'm not doing 794 00:37:46,896 --> 00:37:48,858 this, like I signed up to be a cop. 795 00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't deal with dragons, that's fair. 796 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,626 There's a line that I love by Newt where Ripley tries to 797 00:37:57,686 --> 00:38:02,449 comfort her and say it's okay, we have trained Marines now and 798 00:38:02,489 --> 00:38:04,652 she goes that's not going to make any difference. 799 00:38:04,652 --> 00:38:08,143 And it's true, it doesn't make any difference. 800 00:38:08,143 --> 00:38:12,847 They were no better off than the crew members of the Nostromo 801 00:38:12,847 --> 00:38:12,847 . 802 00:38:12,847 --> 00:38:14,599 What are your thoughts on that? 803 00:38:14,974 --> 00:38:19,163 Speaker 2: I would say that, like you know they weren't, it 804 00:38:19,182 --> 00:38:23,077 didn't make any difference due to, like, sheer volume, but they 805 00:38:23,077 --> 00:38:24,561 did kill quite a few. 806 00:38:24,561 --> 00:38:30,467 True, they were like I would say that they were trained well. 807 00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:33,777 But, like, how do you train to fight against something you've 808 00:38:33,838 --> 00:38:34,840 never fought before? 809 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,804 You know it's, it's different. 810 00:38:36,804 --> 00:38:41,342 And then you know they kill a few, and then it's like you also 811 00:38:41,342 --> 00:38:43,648 don't win when you kill one because, like, if you get 812 00:38:44,335 --> 00:38:47,041 sprayed by their juices, you start to burn. 813 00:38:47,141 --> 00:38:50,088 Speaker 1: you know it's I think half of all the injuries in 814 00:38:50,108 --> 00:38:54,556 this movie were burns yeah, self-inflicted burns from, you 815 00:38:54,577 --> 00:38:57,282 know like, being too close to them when you popped one? 816 00:38:57,282 --> 00:38:58,865 Yeah, no, it's. 817 00:38:58,865 --> 00:39:03,503 It's also like we're not really sure if they kill the aliens 818 00:39:03,682 --> 00:39:03,923 even. 819 00:39:03,923 --> 00:39:06,695 You know, like we assume that headshots are headshots and 820 00:39:06,735 --> 00:39:11,746 that's gonna down them, but we don't actually ever see the 821 00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:13,048 bodies after the fact. 822 00:39:13,048 --> 00:39:15,963 So it's entirely possible that these are just getting back up. 823 00:39:15,983 --> 00:39:18,802 Speaker 3: They're juicy man, like they just turn into juice. 824 00:39:18,802 --> 00:39:21,362 It's like if you shoot a watermelon, you know. 825 00:39:21,983 --> 00:39:22,666 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 826 00:39:24,358 --> 00:39:27,396 Speaker 2: You know, what they do is that they melt down and 827 00:39:27,416 --> 00:39:30,777 then they become a part of other xenomorphs and then just make 828 00:39:30,818 --> 00:39:31,541 them juicier. 829 00:39:32,496 --> 00:39:33,701 Speaker 1: Is that what happened with the queen? 830 00:39:34,422 --> 00:39:34,664 Speaker 2: Yes. 831 00:39:35,315 --> 00:39:38,043 Speaker 1: I just see Anthony excitedly lean into his mic. 832 00:39:38,304 --> 00:39:43,465 Speaker 3: Yes and I thought the original commander of the unit. 833 00:39:43,465 --> 00:39:47,385 He's just so deliciously ridiculous and caricature-like. 834 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,923 All right, we're going to move out. 835 00:39:49,923 --> 00:39:55,097 No wasting time, ladies, I just love that drill sergeant-y 836 00:39:55,137 --> 00:39:59,686 thing and, uh, I think his second in command isn't that 837 00:39:59,987 --> 00:40:02,942 like john connor's dad from terminator, like they, like they 838 00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:04,226 just had a great cast here. 839 00:40:04,226 --> 00:40:07,157 Second in command yes actually you know. 840 00:40:07,217 --> 00:40:09,286 So I was like whoa guys, I couldn't. 841 00:40:09,286 --> 00:40:10,891 I couldn't figure out vasquez. 842 00:40:10,891 --> 00:40:13,800 I know she looked she's been like a tough chick in another 843 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,664 movie, but I couldn't figure out which one. 844 00:40:16,005 --> 00:40:17,597 Speaker 1: But the casting I thought was really good, that 845 00:40:17,697 --> 00:40:19,485 might be terminator as well. 846 00:40:19,485 --> 00:40:20,307 Wait a minute. 847 00:40:20,347 --> 00:40:24,498 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, vasquez aliens oh, wait a minute 848 00:40:24,498 --> 00:40:26,623 , is she in terminator? 849 00:40:26,643 --> 00:40:29,447 Speaker 1: she might be the mom who gets taken over, like the, 850 00:40:29,547 --> 00:40:33,936 with the, like the trailer park mom oh my god, don't tell me 851 00:40:33,976 --> 00:40:39,445 hold up, hold up, hold up the world is incredible wait, I 852 00:40:39,485 --> 00:40:41,128 can't find it, maybe I'm wrong. 853 00:40:41,128 --> 00:40:43,181 Oh no, terminator 2, judgment day. 854 00:40:43,181 --> 00:40:45,588 Yeah, no, you're dude. 855 00:40:45,588 --> 00:40:46,853 So that's that's the. 856 00:40:46,853 --> 00:40:48,677 That's the great thing about, uh, james cameron. 857 00:40:48,677 --> 00:40:51,565 He's one of of those directors that when he finds people he 858 00:40:51,626 --> 00:40:54,342 likes, he's going to bring them on for the next project, and 859 00:40:54,483 --> 00:40:54,965 that's what he did. 860 00:40:54,965 --> 00:40:58,123 He brought the parents of John Connor right into Aliens. 861 00:40:58,304 --> 00:40:58,885 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 862 00:40:59,516 --> 00:41:01,804 Speaker 1: And they play entirely different characters. 863 00:41:01,804 --> 00:41:03,360 Vasquez is so crazy. 864 00:41:03,621 --> 00:41:03,922 Speaker 3: Insane. 865 00:41:05,436 --> 00:41:08,726 Speaker 1: She's such a powerhouse for no reason. 866 00:41:08,726 --> 00:41:14,936 She's the juggernaut a powerhouse? 867 00:41:14,936 --> 00:41:15,217 For no reason. 868 00:41:15,217 --> 00:41:15,759 She's the juggernaut. 869 00:41:15,759 --> 00:41:16,983 She's literally like in the front of the line with a machine 870 00:41:16,983 --> 00:41:17,885 gun, basically, and she's towing the line. 871 00:41:17,965 --> 00:41:19,996 Speaker 2: It's crazy I feel like the only thing that was 872 00:41:20,056 --> 00:41:23,925 missing was like her carrying two of them, two of the machine 873 00:41:23,965 --> 00:41:27,639 guns, just like mowing them down , like she does at some point. 874 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,407 Speaker 1: She carries the big gun and the uh, the like pulse 875 00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:36,797 rifle yeah, no, she's she has the motion tractor in. 876 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,226 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and so it looks like she's you know double 877 00:41:40,226 --> 00:41:44,460 fisting weapons, but like it's crazy, yeah, dude it really is 878 00:41:44,541 --> 00:41:47,788 like you know when you watch this movie and it really is a 879 00:41:47,894 --> 00:41:50,063 classic 80s like action movie. 880 00:41:50,585 --> 00:41:53,474 I mean just that over the top like action. 881 00:41:53,474 --> 00:41:58,043 It fits so well for the time period that it came out in, you 882 00:41:58,083 --> 00:41:59,606 know, and it's just it. 883 00:41:59,606 --> 00:42:00,748 It's a fun watch. 884 00:42:00,748 --> 00:42:05,003 Man like you just see them, just over the top, just you know 885 00:42:05,003 --> 00:42:05,003 . 886 00:42:05,003 --> 00:42:07,958 Just saying all these lines that you would, you know, you 887 00:42:07,978 --> 00:42:09,541 would never really hear in a movie. 888 00:42:09,541 --> 00:42:12,619 Nowadays, I think the only thing that I think that's a 889 00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:13,561 james cameron thing. 890 00:42:13,762 --> 00:42:16,514 Speaker 1: I think those corny lines are staples of james 891 00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:19,521 cameron because even even up to the avatar, the way of water, 892 00:42:20,003 --> 00:42:22,637 like that's the one thing that people like really had to gripe 893 00:42:22,677 --> 00:42:27,407 about was james cameron still has those corny one-liners but 894 00:42:27,427 --> 00:42:29,719 like that's, that's what make movies movies, man. 895 00:42:30,201 --> 00:42:32,958 Speaker 2: You know, what's funny is that there's a game and 896 00:42:32,958 --> 00:42:35,670 I know it's just a digression, but it kind of like it fits in 897 00:42:35,730 --> 00:42:36,132 with this. 898 00:42:36,132 --> 00:42:40,945 There's a game called hell divers 2 and the characters in 899 00:42:40,965 --> 00:42:43,630 the game they say nothing but corny. 900 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:47,344 One liners all the time, like one of one of the the lines that 901 00:42:47,344 --> 00:42:50,577 they'll say and it always makes me laugh because how corny it 902 00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,599 sounds but, like you know, say you're shooting down some of 903 00:42:53,619 --> 00:42:56,577 these, like you know aliens or like you know whatever's robots, 904 00:42:56,577 --> 00:43:00,568 and they'll say like how about a cup of liberty? 905 00:43:00,568 --> 00:43:03,936 Isn't that a james cameron like line that you would hear? 906 00:43:04,536 --> 00:43:07,679 Speaker 1: yeah, yeah, yeah, oh man, yeah. 907 00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,882 So another j, another James Cameron thing that I'd be remiss 908 00:43:10,882 --> 00:43:16,606 to leave out is the fact that he loves putting like military 909 00:43:16,666 --> 00:43:21,130 types in his movies, whether it be the Abyss, the Terminator 910 00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:34,056 movies, avatar, definitely like fronting the, the workforce of 911 00:43:34,077 --> 00:43:34,217 the rda. 912 00:43:34,217 --> 00:43:35,239 These are company marines paid for by the company. 913 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,166 So he loves this visual energy of a military workforce and he 914 00:43:39,286 --> 00:43:43,079 uses them very often and I think that's part of what makes his 915 00:43:43,139 --> 00:43:45,643 movies stand out as his movies. 916 00:43:45,643 --> 00:43:50,222 It's just part of his visual storytelling and I love that I 917 00:43:50,302 --> 00:43:51,505 love 80s action movies. 918 00:43:51,766 --> 00:43:53,501 Speaker 3: Sometimes what I love about them is like the little 919 00:43:53,541 --> 00:43:55,632 thing that I told you guys earlier with the exoskeleton, 920 00:43:55,693 --> 00:43:58,585 right, they do tend to have those moments that do pay off. 921 00:43:58,585 --> 00:44:02,179 There's like a reward for you paying attention and wanting to 922 00:44:02,219 --> 00:44:05,351 see what's going to happen with that and they do those little 923 00:44:05,391 --> 00:44:06,135 kind of easter eggs. 924 00:44:06,135 --> 00:44:08,559 I, I just the the one-liners. 925 00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:09,342 I love this. 926 00:44:09,342 --> 00:44:11,045 Just this just was really great . 927 00:44:11,226 --> 00:44:12,728 I like Jim Cameron movies. 928 00:44:12,728 --> 00:44:18,063 I mean Terminator 2 is one of my fondest memories as a young 929 00:44:18,083 --> 00:44:18,523 child. 930 00:44:18,523 --> 00:44:22,250 I think was like I remember being amped for when that came 931 00:44:22,349 --> 00:44:24,422 out, like so amped. 932 00:44:24,422 --> 00:44:28,603 And that epic, you know rhythm is even translated to wrestling 933 00:44:28,663 --> 00:44:31,835 where there was a group that they used to set up this big 934 00:44:31,916 --> 00:44:35,043 move where they do double dives on the outside and they would 935 00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:36,586 like both like four. 936 00:44:36,586 --> 00:44:38,702 You know two guys are banging on the ring and they're just 937 00:44:38,722 --> 00:44:40,190 like boom, boom, boom, boom. 938 00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:44,563 There's something timeless, I think about those movies with 939 00:44:44,603 --> 00:44:47,552 those one-liners that it's entertainment, it's fun, it's 940 00:44:47,612 --> 00:44:50,262 not supposed to be completely real life and people don't need 941 00:44:50,302 --> 00:44:51,996 to sound like they do in real life. 942 00:44:51,996 --> 00:44:54,041 It's okay if they say corny stuff. 943 00:44:54,442 --> 00:44:57,487 Speaker 2: That's why david caruso has a career I think a 944 00:44:57,554 --> 00:44:59,920 lot of people have careers because well, you could, you 945 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:03,657 could sum up the 80s with pretty much the 80s cinema, with 946 00:45:03,998 --> 00:45:08,208 movies like this, like the action movies and, uh, like john 947 00:45:08,208 --> 00:45:13,463 hughes movies and you know just a couple other things that like 948 00:45:13,463 --> 00:45:15,818 really like kind of age it, this movie. 949 00:45:15,818 --> 00:45:19,184 You know you could tell that it's an 80s movie just because 950 00:45:20,005 --> 00:45:23,583 of the feel of it, but you know, and, and that's not like you 951 00:45:23,603 --> 00:45:26,894 know a wise crack on it, it's just, you know it's a product of 952 00:45:26,894 --> 00:45:29,360 its time and it's still. 953 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,635 It's still like it amazes me, the xenomorphs still look really 954 00:45:33,635 --> 00:45:38,646 good in this movie like you know, I love the practicality of 955 00:45:38,646 --> 00:45:40,349 it, man, the practical effects. 956 00:45:41,317 --> 00:45:45,985 I understand why people want more of it and I understand that 957 00:45:45,985 --> 00:45:47,876 it's tough because it costs more money. 958 00:45:47,876 --> 00:45:53,527 You know you actually have to have a physical thing and, 959 00:45:54,047 --> 00:45:57,219 depending on the size of it, the bigger it gets, the more it 960 00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:58,061 costs, right? 961 00:45:58,061 --> 00:46:02,768 So I understand why cgi has taken over. 962 00:46:02,768 --> 00:46:07,242 But just seeing the giant alien queen, yeah, and it looked 963 00:46:07,342 --> 00:46:07,764 really cool. 964 00:46:07,764 --> 00:46:11,701 Oh, did you see, like some of the scenes and I laughed when I 965 00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:12,362 noticed it? 966 00:46:12,362 --> 00:46:17,166 There was a lot of scenes where that airship was coming down. 967 00:46:17,166 --> 00:46:19,769 You could tell that they were running away from a screen. 968 00:46:20,373 --> 00:46:22,302 Yeah, you could see that there was like a screen in the 969 00:46:22,342 --> 00:46:25,704 background and they were running away from that screen. 970 00:46:25,704 --> 00:46:30,117 But I just think it's so smart man, they use what they have and 971 00:46:30,117 --> 00:46:33,480 also, I guess you know, because they did create like an 972 00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,563 explosion like that, but that's like you know, to keep the 973 00:46:35,682 --> 00:46:36,903 actors safe and whatnot. 974 00:46:36,903 --> 00:46:39,867 You know, you don't want to have like a explosion with your 975 00:46:40,367 --> 00:46:41,708 actual actors right there. 976 00:46:41,708 --> 00:46:44,152 I just thought it was funny when I noticed the screens. 977 00:46:46,335 --> 00:46:47,536 Speaker 1: I didn't notice the screen, to be honest. 978 00:46:47,536 --> 00:46:49,038 I'm going to have to check that out on rewatch. 979 00:46:49,038 --> 00:46:52,101 But yeah, no, like you said, I love the practical effects. 980 00:46:52,101 --> 00:46:56,286 I think a big issue with practical is that you have to 981 00:46:56,507 --> 00:46:58,650 account for so much error. 982 00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:02,490 You know like there's you're going to have strings. 983 00:47:02,911 --> 00:47:06,853 You know, like I saw a couple aliens that were like being held 984 00:47:06,853 --> 00:47:07,974 up on strings and stuff. 985 00:47:07,974 --> 00:47:11,282 They were like one second shots , if that, you know, it's just 986 00:47:11,342 --> 00:47:14,940 like the strings are there but they do the best with what they 987 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,985 can in a pre-CGI world. 988 00:47:16,985 --> 00:47:23,737 And one of my favorite shots in all of the Alien movies is when 989 00:47:23,737 --> 00:47:26,878 the alien comes out of the water behind Newt and it just 990 00:47:26,998 --> 00:47:30,315 looks so sinister, you know, and the tail comes up first. 991 00:47:30,315 --> 00:47:33,425 But you can tell the tail is being pulled up by a string. 992 00:47:33,425 --> 00:47:37,436 You know it's a gorgeous scene, it's a gorgeous shot, but you 993 00:47:37,456 --> 00:47:40,766 could tell, like, put your thinking cap on for a second. 994 00:47:40,766 --> 00:47:44,195 You can understand how this is being done on screen and I think 995 00:47:44,195 --> 00:47:45,438 that is a good thing. 996 00:47:45,438 --> 00:47:49,585 And a bad thing when it comes to practical is that, like it's 997 00:47:49,664 --> 00:47:54,344 harder to hide your mistakes, whereas CGI you can engineer 998 00:47:54,403 --> 00:47:55,489 exactly what you want. 999 00:47:55,648 --> 00:47:57,599 Speaker 2: Basically, Right, right, and I think that's the 1000 00:47:57,639 --> 00:47:58,141 big draw. 1001 00:47:58,141 --> 00:48:03,655 I feel like nowadays, with the technology that is available, I 1002 00:48:03,695 --> 00:48:05,061 think it would be easy. 1003 00:48:05,061 --> 00:48:08,664 We've come a long way, especially with practical 1004 00:48:08,704 --> 00:48:09,065 effects. 1005 00:48:09,235 --> 00:48:14,217 I do think that we could get away like it wouldn't look corny 1006 00:48:14,217 --> 00:48:18,668 nowadays, like we would make it look really good and we yeah 1007 00:48:18,708 --> 00:48:23,442 yeah, and wires, because there are instances where wire and 1008 00:48:23,501 --> 00:48:27,835 harnesses are used but there's a way that they do it to where 1009 00:48:27,855 --> 00:48:31,927 it's edited out or they're using something that's green so that 1010 00:48:31,954 --> 00:48:35,201 they can just make it disappear in the background or whatever. 1011 00:48:35,201 --> 00:48:39,248 But I do believe that practical effects. 1012 00:48:39,248 --> 00:48:44,324 I think it boils down to not so much the error but the cost, 1013 00:48:44,423 --> 00:48:49,237 maybe back in the day, but it's hard now, like the way that you 1014 00:48:49,257 --> 00:48:51,601 know people are professionals now mean. 1015 00:48:51,601 --> 00:48:55,025 Not that they weren't back then , but you know, it's just we've 1016 00:48:55,065 --> 00:48:57,730 gotten better at the craft since back in the day. 1017 00:48:59,456 --> 00:49:03,105 And when we do see practical effects on the screen nowadays, 1018 00:49:03,184 --> 00:49:04,708 it usually looks really good. 1019 00:49:05,518 --> 00:49:07,677 Speaker 1: I don't disagree Really quick. 1020 00:49:07,677 --> 00:49:10,226 I was looking up that actress that played Vasquez. 1021 00:49:10,226 --> 00:49:11,994 Her name is Jeananette goldstein. 1022 00:49:11,994 --> 00:49:18,063 She's not latina, oh uh, she's not. 1023 00:49:18,364 --> 00:49:21,849 Speaker 2: She is jewish her man , she, she could have like 1024 00:49:21,909 --> 00:49:25,481 fooled, like she had like that, like new york there's one line 1025 00:49:25,521 --> 00:49:28,157 where she says a spanish word and I'm like she said that kind 1026 00:49:28,197 --> 00:49:29,440 of weird it was. 1027 00:49:29,561 --> 00:49:32,615 Speaker 1: It was vamonos, yeah, but like she said it a little 1028 00:49:32,675 --> 00:49:36,068 bit anglicized and it was, it was a weird moment for me. 1029 00:49:36,068 --> 00:49:39,018 I was just like she looks so spanish but she said that weird. 1030 00:49:39,018 --> 00:49:43,594 She said vamonos or something like that and yeah, now, now I 1031 00:49:43,634 --> 00:49:43,855 understand. 1032 00:49:43,855 --> 00:49:47,563 So she, she does have the ethnic look to her because her 1033 00:49:47,603 --> 00:49:50,682 family is from brazil and morocco, but but yeah, she's 1034 00:49:50,702 --> 00:49:51,628 jewish, she's not latina. 1035 00:49:51,628 --> 00:49:54,661 I've been fooled same fool me once. 1036 00:49:54,882 --> 00:49:57,025 Speaker 2: Shame on you we'll give it to her with the. 1037 00:49:57,025 --> 00:50:00,099 I mean, you said brazil, you know that's south america, you 1038 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:03,507 know that's that's close yeah, I mean, I know they speak. 1039 00:50:03,507 --> 00:50:06,920 You know portuguese down there, but yeah, it's close enough, 1040 00:50:07,842 --> 00:50:08,141 guys. 1041 00:50:09,264 --> 00:50:10,907 Speaker 1: Final thoughts on aliens. 1042 00:50:10,907 --> 00:50:13,657 Unless you have something else you want to talk about, anthony 1043 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,461 yeah, man, this was. 1044 00:50:15,802 --> 00:50:18,630 Speaker 2: I was excited to come back to this movie because I 1045 00:50:18,670 --> 00:50:22,262 remember it being pretty fun and that's exactly what it is. 1046 00:50:22,262 --> 00:50:25,755 I remember it just being crazy, action-packed, like. 1047 00:50:25,755 --> 00:50:29,425 I didn't remember every single scene, but I just remember a lot 1048 00:50:29,425 --> 00:50:31,190 of like shooting and explosions . 1049 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:35,400 And that's exactly what it was a lot of shooting and explosions 1050 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,864 and, yeah, no, it was a fun time. 1051 00:50:37,864 --> 00:50:42,420 So, yeah, I'm glad that we're doing this series because it's 1052 00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:45,994 giving me a chance to kind of go back and watch some of these 1053 00:50:46,054 --> 00:50:47,659 movies that I haven't seen in a long time. 1054 00:50:47,659 --> 00:50:51,668 Like I said, I've seen two and three more than I've seen the 1055 00:50:51,735 --> 00:50:52,315 first one. 1056 00:50:52,315 --> 00:50:56,545 So going back to see the first one it was, it was definitely a 1057 00:50:56,605 --> 00:50:56,925 treat. 1058 00:50:56,925 --> 00:50:58,536 But, yeah, it's a fun movie. 1059 00:50:58,536 --> 00:51:00,501 If you haven't seen it, go and see it. 1060 00:51:00,501 --> 00:51:01,041 I would. 1061 00:51:01,041 --> 00:51:03,476 I would suggest watching the first one just so that you have 1062 00:51:03,516 --> 00:51:06,181 like the foundation and then come to this. 1063 00:51:06,181 --> 00:51:08,005 But yeah, no, it's, it's fun. 1064 00:51:08,005 --> 00:51:10,478 I, I enjoyed it rich throwing it over to you. 1065 00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:12,706 Speaker 3: You know I going to say something crazy and maybe 1066 00:51:12,746 --> 00:51:15,641 offensive, but I almost think that you could jump into Aliens 1067 00:51:15,981 --> 00:51:19,570 without seeing the first one and almost just kind of ride with 1068 00:51:19,650 --> 00:51:20,215 it and be okay. 1069 00:51:20,215 --> 00:51:25,856 I think that they give you enough of Ripley saying like hey 1070 00:51:25,856 --> 00:51:27,059 , this is a terrible idea. 1071 00:51:27,059 --> 00:51:33,057 You know we shouldn't do it and that's very much a kind of 80s 1072 00:51:33,077 --> 00:51:33,619 action movie tropey thing. 1073 00:51:33,619 --> 00:51:34,742 You know, even like predator, like yeah, I don't know, it 1074 00:51:34,762 --> 00:51:35,766 sounds like a bad idea. 1075 00:51:35,766 --> 00:51:38,802 You know, like so many of these movies start with like people 1076 00:51:38,882 --> 00:51:42,456 going into that that I think that you could be okay. 1077 00:51:42,556 --> 00:51:44,300 Speaker 2: Obviously you're better served watching the first 1078 00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:47,597 one, uh, but I love this one well, there is definitely be 1079 00:51:47,637 --> 00:51:51,025 some holes for you there, like why is she being tried? 1080 00:51:51,025 --> 00:51:53,400 You go into this movie like why is she in trouble? 1081 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,090 Why was she in crowd sleep for 50 years? 1082 00:51:56,652 --> 00:51:57,315 Speaker 1: you know what was that? 1083 00:51:57,315 --> 00:51:57,958 What happened? 1084 00:51:57,958 --> 00:52:00,891 Nightmare that she had, yeah, what is that nightmare that she 1085 00:52:00,931 --> 00:52:01,112 has? 1086 00:52:01,112 --> 00:52:01,755 Why is she having? 1087 00:52:02,076 --> 00:52:02,356 Speaker 2: yeah. 1088 00:52:02,356 --> 00:52:05,443 So yeah you, I would say, go watch this movie. 1089 00:52:05,443 --> 00:52:08,436 If you haven't seen the aliens movies at all, definitely go 1090 00:52:08,476 --> 00:52:10,902 watch that first one, because if you go into the second one you 1091 00:52:10,922 --> 00:52:14,929 might be a little confused you know why she's so reluctant to. 1092 00:52:14,929 --> 00:52:17,135 You know, go to these creatures . 1093 00:52:17,135 --> 00:52:17,998 You know like that. 1094 00:52:17,998 --> 00:52:20,990 You know like you definitely want to have that foundation. 1095 00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:23,983 You know dakota says that it is like the foundation for the 1096 00:52:24,043 --> 00:52:24,987 entire series. 1097 00:52:24,987 --> 00:52:27,858 But this movie is the foundation or kind of like the 1098 00:52:27,898 --> 00:52:33,715 template for the rest yeah yeah no, I really enjoy this movie. 1099 00:52:33,934 --> 00:52:35,717 Speaker 1: It's a top five mcu movie for me. 1100 00:52:35,717 --> 00:52:43,170 Um, I think I'm gonna side more on anthony's perspective with 1101 00:52:43,195 --> 00:52:47,324 this one in terms of I don't think this is one where you can 1102 00:52:47,364 --> 00:52:48,786 just listen. 1103 00:52:48,786 --> 00:52:50,838 You can pick up and watch whatever movie you want and you 1104 00:52:50,878 --> 00:52:51,440 can. 1105 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,817 You'll a little lost and you'll find your way and I think this 1106 00:52:53,876 --> 00:52:55,945 is one of those movies where you will find your way. 1107 00:52:55,945 --> 00:52:58,925 It's not the most mind-bending movie you'll ever watch. 1108 00:52:58,925 --> 00:53:00,039 You can figure it out. 1109 00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:05,766 But you are going to miss out on much of Ripley's arc, which I 1110 00:53:05,766 --> 00:53:08,699 think is important, because her character from the start of the 1111 00:53:08,699 --> 00:53:11,423 first movie to the end of this movie is an entirely different 1112 00:53:11,463 --> 00:53:13,027 beast, and I am it's. 1113 00:53:13,027 --> 00:53:17,273 I think ripley as a character is just such a fun person to 1114 00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:23,204 follow because she was never meant to be an action hero but 1115 00:53:24,246 --> 00:53:28,978 action hero was thrust upon her and you know she acquiesced uh, 1116 00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:31,543 especially with the exoskeleton scene. 1117 00:53:31,563 --> 00:53:35,097 Man like that like you can't say that that was an action 1118 00:53:35,137 --> 00:53:38,987 hero-esque when she threw down on the alien queen with that 1119 00:53:39,027 --> 00:53:41,764 thing I thought she was gonna rip it in half for a second. 1120 00:53:41,764 --> 00:53:45,501 You know, for the exoskeleton was super cool, like I don't 1121 00:53:45,521 --> 00:53:46,909 know why we don't have those in real life. 1122 00:53:46,909 --> 00:53:51,463 That looked like a functional, like power lifting suit, like am 1123 00:53:51,463 --> 00:53:55,639 , I am I wrong, it looked real yeah, yeah, no, it did look real 1124 00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:55,639 . 1125 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,324 Speaker 2: I think that it yeah like. 1126 00:53:58,324 --> 00:54:00,568 Why does that not like exist? 1127 00:54:00,568 --> 00:54:04,282 Because that definitely would help with heavy lifting with 1128 00:54:04,923 --> 00:54:05,545 different things. 1129 00:54:05,545 --> 00:54:08,036 Like you could, and it seemed like you could. 1130 00:54:08,036 --> 00:54:10,280 Um, you know, like you could make it. 1131 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,505 You don't have to always use like the big pinchers as like 1132 00:54:13,525 --> 00:54:14,708 kind of like the smaller ones. 1133 00:54:14,708 --> 00:54:16,552 On the inside it looks practical. 1134 00:54:17,534 --> 00:54:18,315 Speaker 1: It looked practical. 1135 00:54:18,896 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 3: By the way I looked it up it's, if anybody is 1136 00:54:22,539 --> 00:54:25,286 interested, you guys can like search up some images. 1137 00:54:25,286 --> 00:54:29,940 It's called Exo Squad and that was a cartoon show with a line 1138 00:54:29,981 --> 00:54:34,735 of toys where basically I mean I look the timing of it, I want 1139 00:54:34,757 --> 00:54:38,568 to say, is it's got to be right after, because it's so similar, 1140 00:54:39,431 --> 00:54:42,702 like these exoskeletons are super so wait, when did? 1141 00:54:42,922 --> 00:54:44,288 Speaker 1: when did exo squad come out? 1142 00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:47,318 Speaker 3: because this came out in 86 all right, so exo squad 1143 00:54:47,358 --> 00:54:52,349 comes out in 1993 okay, so this is totally the like you know 1144 00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:56,621 coded into exo squad interesting I don't think I've, maybe I 1145 00:54:56,661 --> 00:54:57,503 have. 1146 00:54:57,503 --> 00:55:02,536 The toys are particularly of interest to anybody interested. 1147 00:55:02,536 --> 00:55:05,226 They are just so sweet. 1148 00:55:05,226 --> 00:55:08,438 You have a figure that goes inside the suit, obviously, and 1149 00:55:08,478 --> 00:55:11,355 then everyone has a different kind of suit, different color, 1150 00:55:11,655 --> 00:55:14,201 different functions, beautiful. 1151 00:55:14,201 --> 00:55:16,967 You know great stuff for your dog to chew up when you shoot on 1152 00:55:16,967 --> 00:55:18,277 the floor perfect. 1153 00:55:18,557 --> 00:55:21,844 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I need is plastic chunks that I 1154 00:55:21,905 --> 00:55:26,358 can cut into my foot when I walk out of the room guys throw some 1155 00:55:26,358 --> 00:55:27,719 legos down it'll be cheaper. 1156 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,804 I know right, she'll probably chew that too. 1157 00:55:30,804 --> 00:55:33,367 Guys, thank you so much for listening to us here for our 1158 00:55:33,547 --> 00:55:36,010 132nd episode. 1159 00:55:36,010 --> 00:55:40,166 Next week we got another fun show Alien 3. 1160 00:55:40,166 --> 00:55:44,764 They're finally doing a proper titling structure for this 1161 00:55:44,784 --> 00:55:45,887 series Alien 3. 1162 00:55:45,887 --> 00:55:49,782 But it's actually stylized it's Alien to the Third Power. 1163 00:55:49,782 --> 00:55:54,278 I don't even know how to type that, so let's just call it 1164 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:54,902 Alien 3. 1165 00:55:55,356 --> 00:55:57,903 Speaker 2: They should have put the 3 where the E is. 1166 00:55:57,903 --> 00:56:00,563 Oh, Alien 3N. 1167 00:56:02,460 --> 00:56:04,835 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been really really smart, but 1168 00:56:04,855 --> 00:56:06,822 anyway, we're covering Alien 3. 1169 00:56:07,315 --> 00:56:11,987 We're going to see what becomes of the remnants of the Sulaco. 1170 00:56:11,987 --> 00:56:18,039 We have Ripley, we have Newt, we have Corporal Hicks and who 1171 00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:18,201 else? 1172 00:56:18,201 --> 00:56:22,603 We got half of Bishop that's who survived on this week's 1173 00:56:23,076 --> 00:56:25,954 Project Ecology, and I'm sure they have a lot of adventures. 1174 00:56:25,954 --> 00:56:27,963 All four of them come next week . 1175 00:56:27,963 --> 00:56:32,503 Guys, if you want to check out any more of our socials or find 1176 00:56:32,543 --> 00:56:35,016 out anything else that we're cooking up, please be sure to 1177 00:56:35,317 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