WEBVTT 00:00:00.281 --> 00:00:04.772 Welcome back to episode 133 of Project Geekology. 00:00:04.772 --> 00:00:10.352 This is the continued discussion of our Alien franchise marathon. 00:00:10.352 --> 00:00:13.750 Basically, we're just, week after week, covering another Alien movie. 00:00:13.750 --> 00:00:29.786 We're going to be eventually covering Alien Earth as well, and we're covering Alien 3, on this third part of this series, and we're reaching back to some of the cast from Aliens 2 as we start this movie off. 00:00:29.786 --> 00:00:44.369 We have Ripley, we have Newt, we have Corporal Hicks and then we have the android Bishop all returning, for you know at least the start of this movie and we'll see where these adventures go from here. 00:00:44.369 --> 00:00:56.110 I'm one third of your hosts, dakota, and I'm joined, as always, with anthony and I thought it was alien cubed uh, is that, is that actually the wouldn't cubed be? 00:00:56.612 --> 00:01:01.222 oh, no, two is squared, so three is squared, three is cubed yeah you're right. 00:01:01.222 --> 00:01:06.682 Okay, so maybe this is just alien cubed yes I'll have to mull that one over, but what? 00:01:06.802 --> 00:01:08.486 number is alien, though. 00:01:08.486 --> 00:01:11.051 Like what number represents alien? 00:01:11.051 --> 00:01:14.141 And like how are they cubing a word? 00:01:14.823 --> 00:01:15.566 excellent question. 00:01:15.566 --> 00:01:16.567 Excellent question. 00:01:16.567 --> 00:01:17.769 We're gonna be pondering this. 00:01:17.790 --> 00:01:24.246 Yes, yes uh, and and the the the last of our hosts joining us this week is. 00:01:24.828 --> 00:01:30.656 Rich, and I think that the way you cube something, a word, is you have to use the FOIL method. 00:01:30.656 --> 00:01:34.531 I'm an English teacher, not a math teacher, but I firmly believe this. 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:38.640 Do explain the FOIL method, because I don't think I made it that far in math. 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:47.194 So it's when you have to multiply two binomials it outer, inner, lasts. 00:01:47.396 --> 00:01:59.644 That's the the order of the multiplication you have to do when you then make it into a first outer inner last okay foil very good, and does that translate at all to the alien in this film? 00:02:00.144 --> 00:02:12.877 I mean it looked a little kind of metal-like when it was dripping that juice, but I'm not sure if there's any other relation other than the steel look. 00:02:13.179 --> 00:02:13.379 All right. 00:02:13.379 --> 00:02:15.266 So let's hold on, let's back this up. 00:02:15.266 --> 00:02:18.830 The first would be the first alien from the alien movie. 00:02:18.830 --> 00:02:24.393 Then the outer might have been the queen the queen, yeah, okay. 00:02:24.393 --> 00:02:25.667 In the second movie. 00:02:25.667 --> 00:02:31.250 The inner would be probably whatever's in ripley during this movie and the l. 00:02:31.250 --> 00:02:43.626 The last is probably this alien in alien 3, or alien cubed, as anthony is so willingly testing me on there's a pop quiz next week there's a pop quiz next week for alien resurrection. 00:02:43.665 --> 00:02:45.251 Guys, be guys, be there or be square. 00:02:45.251 --> 00:02:47.306 I'm going to get this right out of the way. 00:02:47.306 --> 00:02:54.933 This movie is juicy and probably not in the way that anybody wants it to be juicy. 00:02:54.933 --> 00:03:01.186 You know, in previous Alien franchise movies we've had juicy aliens, we've had juicy androids. 00:03:01.186 --> 00:03:02.825 Now we have juicy humans. 00:03:02.825 --> 00:03:04.525 A lot of blood is shed in. 00:03:04.525 --> 00:03:06.842 This movie had juicy androids, now we have juicy humans. 00:03:06.842 --> 00:03:07.604 A lot of blood is shed in this movie. 00:03:07.604 --> 00:03:11.317 Um, and it's, it's very typical, uh, I think of early 90s and mid 90s movies that are trying to be a little edgier. 00:03:11.317 --> 00:03:14.388 You think of like the like, going all the way up to like blade. 00:03:14.388 --> 00:03:25.712 In the late 90s you have this like level of rated r, where it's like super edgy to be gory and crass and yeah, it's uh dark, you know it's it's. 00:03:25.992 --> 00:03:32.067 And it's the grunge era of films, you know it's definitely, it's definitely the grunge era of films. 00:03:32.247 --> 00:03:45.640 So, in honor of the, the, the juiciness of it all, um, I'm gonna ask you guys to give this podcast, on whatever podcast application you're listening to, a five-star review, but not just a five-star review. 00:03:45.640 --> 00:04:00.233 Make it a juicy five-star review, as, as we enjoy here, um, there's a little bit of crunch in this movie, not the good kind, uh like a bone-sawing crunch in it, and I don't really I don't think that really applies to this podcast for this episode. 00:04:00.233 --> 00:04:06.951 But guys, give us a five-star juicy review if it's, uh, the last thing you, you do on whatever day you're listening to this. 00:04:06.951 --> 00:04:10.227 If it's the last thing that you do, you better. 00:04:12.161 --> 00:04:13.265 They're on their last breath. 00:04:13.265 --> 00:04:15.487 I got to give them that five-star review. 00:04:18.300 --> 00:04:20.309 Last thing you do on the day that you listen to this. 00:04:20.309 --> 00:04:24.545 I'm not telling you it's downhill from here, it's uphill, I think. 00:04:24.545 --> 00:04:25.480 To this. 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:25.661 I'm not. 00:04:25.661 --> 00:04:27.305 I'm not telling you it's it's downhill from here, um, it's uphill, I think. 00:04:27.305 --> 00:04:27.365 So. 00:04:27.365 --> 00:04:34.966 Anyway, guys, uh, yeah, we're, we're gonna jump into our review very shortly, but before we get into any of that, I'm gonna send it over to rich. 00:04:34.966 --> 00:04:36.309 What have you been up to this past week? 00:04:36.831 --> 00:04:40.567 uh, just uh kind of in full swing with uh, cross country again. 00:04:40.567 --> 00:04:43.300 Uh, the school year is kind of getting into full swing. 00:04:43.300 --> 00:04:48.800 I had to go to my son's open house, which whenever I go to like an open house or a parent teacher conference. 00:04:48.800 --> 00:05:03.987 I know as a parent I'm supposed to do it to be a good person, but I feel like I'm crossing the picket line, like I'm a scab, like I'm a teacher and I'm going and making another teacher's day longer by by being there and and I feel I feel kind of wrong about that. 00:05:03.987 --> 00:05:08.214 But outside of that I've just really been still. 00:05:08.214 --> 00:05:10.026 I mean, the season is winding down in MLB. 00:05:10.026 --> 00:05:12.427 I have one more player to get. 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:27.613 I think I'm almost there, guys, mlb the show right I will finally, yes, be able to buy the Aaron Judge regular card, which will give me the entirety of all mlb 26, all all the franchises. 00:05:27.613 --> 00:05:34.230 I will finally get that top carlos beltran card that I've been eyeing since april. 00:05:34.230 --> 00:05:36.213 So we're almost here. 00:05:36.213 --> 00:05:37.382 We're almost here. 00:05:37.382 --> 00:05:41.973 It's hard to do, though, because I'm grinding a lot and the mets are terrible. 00:05:42.072 --> 00:05:43.425 Can I ask you actually? 00:05:43.425 --> 00:05:45.374 Yeah, mlb, the show does. 00:05:45.374 --> 00:05:51.333 It does like the season ends when the mlb season ends, or it's just it'll go a little further. 00:05:51.533 --> 00:05:57.870 Like they'll they'll include because, like they have, like they have mini seasons or whatever seasons they call them. 00:05:57.870 --> 00:06:07.891 So like we're on season seven right now, so they'll probably have another season that'll be the playoffs they'll release special cards and then they'll have like one that ends. 00:06:07.891 --> 00:06:09.759 It'll be after the world series. 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:18.105 Like they'll release some kind of cool world series car edition for the players that are left in the playoffs and then it'll finally end. 00:06:18.105 --> 00:06:23.524 I think like officially, they stopped, like uploading a lot of new stuff, like middle november. 00:06:23.584 --> 00:06:26.130 I want to say okay, all right, very good. 00:06:26.130 --> 00:06:37.982 Um, I want to pivot, uh, what you've been up to this past week, because you've been doing something for the past couple weeks, pretty much ever since we started the smallville oh uh podcast um, and you're almost done. 00:06:37.982 --> 00:06:40.048 You, you've been on a marathon stint. 00:06:40.048 --> 00:06:44.562 Uh and uh, how far, how far are you in smallville at this point? 00:06:44.562 --> 00:06:45.865 Uh, you don't have much left. 00:06:46.086 --> 00:06:46.728 I don't even know. 00:06:46.728 --> 00:06:51.026 Three, four weeks ago we watched one season of Smallville and now I'm on season 10. 00:06:51.026 --> 00:06:53.648 It's been a journey. 00:06:53.648 --> 00:06:59.625 I mean, I'm at work and when nobody's around and I'm just grading papers, I just throw Smallville back on. 00:06:59.625 --> 00:07:05.269 I'll watch like 15 to 20 minutes of it and then just have to pause it and come back to it. 00:07:05.269 --> 00:07:07.709 But with Hulu it's really convenient. 00:07:07.709 --> 00:07:10.369 So I'm just watching it wherever I want to watch it. 00:07:10.369 --> 00:07:17.994 If I'm in the car waiting for my son outside of Taekwondo before I pick him up, hey, that's another 10 minutes of Smallville, I can get in there. 00:07:17.994 --> 00:07:19.586 So it's crazy. 00:07:19.586 --> 00:07:21.545 I forgot what happens. 00:07:21.545 --> 00:07:22.750 It's nuts. 00:07:22.750 --> 00:07:27.870 Lana Lang is still a villain, I can happily say in season 10, I still firmly believe. 00:07:27.870 --> 00:07:31.446 Especially, do you think she knows that she's a villain? 00:07:31.446 --> 00:07:34.846 Oh yeah, she gets like a villain haircut. 00:07:34.846 --> 00:07:40.821 When she comes back she's like look at me, I'm Lana, the villain haircut Like she's I don't know man, she's bad news bears. 00:07:40.821 --> 00:07:41.540 She's terrible. 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:41.802 Fair enough. 00:07:41.802 --> 00:07:42.382 So she's bad news bears. 00:07:42.382 --> 00:07:42.781 She's terrible. 00:07:43.081 --> 00:07:43.302 Fair enough. 00:07:43.302 --> 00:07:44.242 So you're on season. 00:07:44.242 --> 00:07:44.762 What now? 00:07:44.762 --> 00:07:45.863 Last season, season 10. 00:07:45.863 --> 00:07:50.326 I just started episode two right before we got together today. 00:07:50.326 --> 00:07:53.447 Fantastic, I'll probably be done with season 10. 00:07:53.447 --> 00:07:56.168 It's 22 episodes, so I would put it at. 00:07:56.168 --> 00:07:59.230 Today is Wednesday, probably Saturday. 00:07:59.230 --> 00:08:02.112 I'll be texting you guys about this. 00:08:02.432 --> 00:08:03.312 Very fair, very fair. 00:08:03.312 --> 00:08:05.134 I'm going to send it over to Anthony. 00:08:05.134 --> 00:08:06.514 What the heck have you been up, guy? 00:08:06.913 --> 00:08:13.658 Hey, just to let you know, rich and you did this to yourself after we're done with the Alien Marathon, we are doing Season 2. 00:08:13.658 --> 00:08:15.904 Oh no, so get ready to go back. 00:08:16.427 --> 00:08:19.562 Oh no, I have so many thoughts. 00:08:19.562 --> 00:08:25.726 Oh no, I'm going to be like a certain character when another character inhabited that character and overloaded them. 00:08:26.127 --> 00:08:27.387 You played yourself, man. 00:08:27.387 --> 00:08:31.492 But so what have I been up to man? 00:08:31.492 --> 00:08:35.375 A whole lot of nothing but working, that's not fun. 00:08:35.815 --> 00:08:37.157 A whole lot of nothing but work man. 00:08:37.157 --> 00:08:37.876 Yeah, that sucks. 00:08:46.899 --> 00:08:52.114 No well, no, not like I've been working like all the time, but like I feel like really just like in the last time that that we've recorded like I've been working like all the time, but like I feel like really just like in the last time that that we've recorded like I've. 00:08:52.114 --> 00:08:59.607 You know, it's just been like normal day to day, like I'm working and then then like I'll go to the gym and then I go play some some video games you haven't had time to yourself to like. 00:08:59.649 --> 00:09:00.291 enjoy something. 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:07.462 Well, I mean I have had time to enjoy myself, like you know, gaming and stuff, but you know it's just like. 00:09:07.462 --> 00:09:10.070 You know just like it's been routine stuff that I've. 00:09:10.070 --> 00:09:21.687 That I've been up to, like I'm not saying that work has been insane, but I mean I've just been like you know, just it's been just work, gym, you know, gaming a bit at night and then going to sleep. 00:09:21.687 --> 00:09:23.049 But I do have. 00:09:23.049 --> 00:09:32.614 I do have like a little mini convention that I'm going to close by on saturday, so that'll be fun oh, that's cool. 00:09:32.693 --> 00:09:38.548 What, what a little when I say mini convention, like it's going to be in a high school gym nice. 00:09:38.849 --> 00:09:40.351 Oh, I've been to one of those is the best. 00:09:40.371 --> 00:09:58.475 Yeah, I don't know if they're the best but they exist well, I mean, uh, I mean they're, they're, they're actually really fun and the reason why, like I I say that is because the larger ones can be sensory overload and sometimes you can get some like really like. 00:09:58.475 --> 00:10:01.102 These small conventions are almost like you. 00:10:01.102 --> 00:10:16.721 You get the, the, you do get some artists that come in and people that come in with their stuff, but it's almost like a garage sale also and you can find some like really good finds like the last mini one that I went to, I found pokemon silver for like a really, really good price. 00:10:17.423 --> 00:10:24.994 Where we're in a world where and and I like was able to like verify that it was a legit one, but in a world where, like pokemon silver is like selling upwards to like verify that it was a legit one. 00:10:24.994 --> 00:10:29.528 But in a world where, like Pokemon Silver is like selling upwards to like a hundred dollars, I got it for like 40. 00:10:30.009 --> 00:10:45.332 Those places I used to go to the Knights of Columbus, uh around here with my dad and man, like for card shows, and they were like cringe and kind of sad, but at the same time you got some great deals so it was kind of worth going to yes, sir, but yeah, no. 00:10:45.373 --> 00:10:47.422 So that that's what I have going on. 00:10:47.422 --> 00:11:02.461 And well, I mean, I don't think I had said like last last week, but I did end up going to see earlier last week I did go to see, uh, freakier friday I think you did mention it, but did I mention? 00:11:02.520 --> 00:11:04.883 I don't remember if you mentioned whether or not you liked it or not. 00:11:05.663 --> 00:11:07.184 Yeah, no, it was fun, I liked it. 00:11:07.184 --> 00:11:09.647 It was a solid movie. 00:11:09.647 --> 00:11:21.636 I think that it lived up pretty well to like the first movie Awesome, yeah, you know, the first one being a Lindsay Lohan classic, like that was just like the Lindsay Lohan era back then. 00:11:21.636 --> 00:11:26.104 So, yeah, it was fun to see her come back around. 00:11:26.104 --> 00:11:27.990 But, yeah, what have you been up to Dakota? 00:11:29.201 --> 00:11:35.429 Not a whole lot of pop culture stuff like we would normally discuss in the podcast. 00:11:35.429 --> 00:11:42.888 I went down to Miami literally like the morning after we recorded last week's episode, because my great-grandmother was in the hospital. 00:11:44.621 --> 00:11:45.746 Oh, okay, that that's. 00:11:45.746 --> 00:11:51.761 That's which one I was actually going to ask you which which grandmother, which, uh, grandmother yeah yeah, it's the. 00:11:52.001 --> 00:11:54.586 It's the centenarian, the. 00:11:54.586 --> 00:11:55.567 She's 100 years old. 00:11:55.567 --> 00:12:06.014 She fell and broke eight ribs, but somehow is still kicking and is being discharged. 00:12:06.014 --> 00:12:11.654 I think she was discharged yesterday from the hospital, so they're going to finally require her to use a. 00:12:12.340 --> 00:12:13.926 Was it like downstairs or? 00:12:14.500 --> 00:12:15.384 It just fell in her room. 00:12:15.725 --> 00:12:18.605 Yeah, oh okay, At a certain point you get too weak. 00:12:19.220 --> 00:12:23.924 But yeah, surprisingly she's still kicking, thankfully, but it's kind of like a weird thing because how do you survive that at 100 years old? 00:12:23.924 --> 00:12:24.150 It's crazy. 00:12:24.150 --> 00:12:27.984 I don't know, surprisingly she's still kicking, thankfully, but it's kind of like a weird thing because, like, how do you survive that at 100 years old? 00:12:28.404 --> 00:12:29.768 it's crazy I don't know. 00:12:29.768 --> 00:12:40.725 Hey, man, she, she's like you're not gonna, you're not gonna take me down at 100 years old yeah, I know I, I guess she's uh, it's been for 101, but anyway, uh yeah. 00:12:40.745 --> 00:12:42.230 So I was down there, visited family. 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:44.466 It was in the nursing home for like most of it, honestly, it was like four or five hours. 00:12:44.466 --> 00:12:46.519 Family it was in the nursing home for, like most of it, honestly, it was like four or five hours a day. 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:47.846 I was in the nursing home just sitting there. 00:12:48.559 --> 00:13:00.751 Otherwise I listened to the aliens plural aliens sequel uh, novelization, um, not too much new stuff there, but they do. 00:13:00.751 --> 00:13:12.755 It's kind of like the special edition of aliensens where they do incorporate the deleted scenes that are in the special edition cut of the second movie. 00:13:12.755 --> 00:13:16.559 So that was kind of cool because I hadn't seen those in forever. 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:25.679 And I'm probably going to go back and rewatch the Alien special edition sometime either tomorrow or Friday, from um, from my, from my own like timeline notes or whatever. 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:45.211 And uh, yeah, I watched alien 3 or alien cubed today and I downloaded the novelization for that and I'm gonna I'm gonna supplement my, my watch of that uh with that audiobook and then I'm gonna go into alien resurrectionurrection after I finish the audiobook. 00:13:45.211 --> 00:13:46.783 So that's my game plan. 00:13:46.802 --> 00:14:00.886 With the Alien movie slash novelizations, I get a little bit of a brief respite with Prometheus, because there's no novelization for that one, but there's a prequel novel and a novelization of Alien Covenant. 00:14:00.886 --> 00:14:06.780 So by the time we get to that, I have a lot of alien covenant. 00:14:06.780 --> 00:14:08.525 So by the time we get to that, I have a lot of like listening to do uh, for for that. 00:14:08.525 --> 00:14:27.587 But I'm excited about that because that's, a the only alien movie I've never seen and b the only alien movie that gets a prequel novelization or prequel novel officially so, oh, oh, you didn't see prometheus, I saw prometheus, I didn't see Covenant oh, okay, yeah, I saw Covenant what's next? 00:14:29.650 --> 00:14:46.480 so Alien 3, then there's Alien Resurrection and then it goes into the prequels Prometheus, alien Covenant, and then there's Romulus, which technically takes place between 1 and 2, and they're all basically different stories, which is just. 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.668 It's such a bizarre franchise. 00:14:48.668 --> 00:14:58.150 They they go through so many different, like twists and turns, and alien cubed, as anthony is want to call it, is no, is no different. 00:14:58.150 --> 00:15:01.022 This is the probably the most bizarre one to me. 00:15:01.022 --> 00:15:03.726 Actually, it's probably not the most bizarre one, but it's. 00:15:03.726 --> 00:15:08.615 It's up there in like the top two most bizarre choices for the alien franchise. 00:15:08.615 --> 00:15:09.496 You know what? 00:15:09.798 --> 00:15:32.966 I'm I'm actually still a little surprised that this was like the one series that passed rich, like, like like when I think of um, because I, I know you watched the predator series and I did too but like alien is like, kind of like when it's like when you've watched predator you've also watched alien well, kind of you know, like they're two sides of this of like the same coin. 00:15:32.985 --> 00:15:36.059 But then again, I've never watched the predator, but you're also, I've never. 00:15:36.100 --> 00:15:39.989 That's crazy man am I the only one that's seen both? 00:15:39.989 --> 00:15:42.442 I think you are, in this case you have to understand also. 00:15:42.482 --> 00:15:54.296 The thing is, though, that when, like when, when I'm in florida and that predator movie comes on on the movie channel, I see arnold, who I love all right, like I already seen some arnold stuff, whatever I don't know. 00:15:54.296 --> 00:15:59.448 His voice is hilarious, and but also, the other draw was jesse the body ventura. 00:15:59.448 --> 00:16:20.325 He was a big wrestling guy, so I was like, oh, it's that, it's that wrestling guy, right, so I was more drawn to that, like if you didn't have, you know, sigordney weaver, and it was like hulk hogan, I guess you know like, oh, no, bro, the aliens aren't gonna get me, brother, you know, like, what you're gonna do aliens. 00:16:20.345 --> 00:16:23.928 You know, like I'd be, watching that in was in Gremlins 2. 00:16:24.970 --> 00:16:30.716 I will say, though, that the acting between the two is different. 00:16:30.716 --> 00:16:38.404 The earlier Predators are a little corny, and I think it is yeah, no, yeah, yeah, it's corny. 00:16:39.655 --> 00:16:42.102 Well, I think they've got you pushing too many pencils. 00:16:42.102 --> 00:16:43.986 Okay, anthony, I think that's the problem. 00:16:43.986 --> 00:16:45.099 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:46.283 Exactly. 00:16:46.674 --> 00:16:49.162 That high five is the greatest high five of all time. 00:16:49.162 --> 00:16:49.763 We're not getting. 00:16:51.254 --> 00:16:52.298 I have seen that actually. 00:16:52.298 --> 00:16:53.783 Yeah, no, what happened? 00:16:53.962 --> 00:16:57.698 I've seen the high five, but anyway we're digressing. 00:16:57.698 --> 00:16:58.919 But anyway, we're digressing. 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:04.307 We'll have to get to Predator at some point, I thought we were ingressing because they're in the same universe. 00:17:04.307 --> 00:17:05.549 Potentially. 00:17:05.549 --> 00:17:07.938 It's not been like really confirmed. 00:17:07.938 --> 00:17:08.599 Hey look, we have Alien vs. 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:09.080 Predator. 00:17:09.080 --> 00:17:10.104 Are they canonical? 00:17:10.104 --> 00:17:12.501 No, but they exist somewhere, you know. 00:17:12.541 --> 00:17:16.383 Yeah, and Rich, you're welcome to skip ahead. 00:17:16.383 --> 00:17:23.941 Only to Alien vs versus predator and alien versus predator requiem, because it's the ones that we're not covering for the show. 00:17:23.941 --> 00:17:27.435 Um, good, and it's yeah, so you can watch those. 00:17:27.455 --> 00:17:28.198 I'm gonna watch them. 00:17:28.198 --> 00:17:39.102 I'm gonna bring faulty information to our next coverage because I will, as I always do reference other things that don't aren't the one that we're talking about that's fine by me with In this case. 00:17:39.844 --> 00:17:43.443 Shall we jump over to our discussion of Alien 3? 00:17:43.443 --> 00:17:43.604 , are you? 00:17:43.624 --> 00:17:44.326 sure you're ready for that. 00:17:44.326 --> 00:17:46.119 I'm not sure if you're ready for that. 00:17:46.976 --> 00:17:48.281 I'd like to start by saying something. 00:17:49.037 --> 00:17:50.522 I know nothing about this franchise. 00:17:50.522 --> 00:17:52.200 I have trusted you guys. 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:58.596 I have done no extra reading, no extra anything, no extra rewatches, no watching forward, no watching backwards. 00:17:58.596 --> 00:17:59.436 I like. 00:17:59.436 --> 00:18:00.217 Aliens 2. 00:18:00.217 --> 00:18:03.199 I'm told Rich hang on. 00:18:03.199 --> 00:18:10.743 You get to see everybody in the third one and I'm like continuity, I love you. 00:18:10.743 --> 00:18:12.305 I don't want to have to learn new characters. 00:18:12.305 --> 00:18:14.686 I can just kind of learn a couple new people. 00:18:14.686 --> 00:18:16.567 But it's going to be about Bishop. 00:18:16.567 --> 00:18:20.770 It's going to have Newt right Lies, all lies. 00:18:20.891 --> 00:18:21.791 There's going to have new right Lies, All lies. 00:18:21.791 --> 00:18:23.952 There's continuity by technicality. 00:18:23.952 --> 00:18:26.875 All lies and, and, and, and. 00:18:26.875 --> 00:18:30.726 We do have a brief appearance of a Bishop, you know. 00:18:31.135 --> 00:18:32.140 And he's so sad. 00:18:32.140 --> 00:18:36.086 He's so sad to be in there that he's like, please just end me. 00:18:36.086 --> 00:18:38.518 But yeah, he was done. 00:18:38.558 --> 00:18:46.028 Yeah, but yeah he was done, yeah, but then we have the invasion of a Lannister in this one. 00:18:47.300 --> 00:18:48.207 I was saying it before. 00:18:48.207 --> 00:18:51.181 That's the saving grace, the only thing that calmed me down. 00:18:51.181 --> 00:18:58.788 I was like, oh it's Tywin Lannister and I just kind of imagined him cutting a deer apart and Wally haranguing his sons. 00:18:58.788 --> 00:19:01.784 So that did warm the cockles in my heart. 00:19:01.934 --> 00:19:19.118 but I, uh this, I I was having my, I was having a good laugh last week when I said you know we're gonna have the continuing adventures of newt hicks, rick ripley and bishop uh, as they make their way back to earth or whatever, whatever. 00:19:19.118 --> 00:19:21.684 I said um, and I saw. 00:19:21.684 --> 00:19:31.669 I saw the light in your eye like twinkle and I was just like oh is that the the anger that you had to let out? 00:19:31.710 --> 00:19:33.116 yes, that was the anger I had. 00:19:33.116 --> 00:19:34.699 I was so pissed off. 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:36.642 I was like what's gonna happen with Newt? 00:19:36.642 --> 00:19:37.643 Maybe it's in. 00:19:37.643 --> 00:19:46.640 I had all these questions and then I was just Look, I know that I don't think this is the case, but you ever have a? 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:58.919 I've heard some franchises where they just randomly grabbed a script and made it the third or fourth in that franchise, even though it doesn't super relate Like the Hills have Eyes or something like that. 00:19:58.919 --> 00:20:07.882 I think read one of the sequels is like just a completely different thing that they slapped over the franchise on cloverfield, cloverfield 3 yes, is that? 00:20:07.922 --> 00:20:15.423 yes, you know so what in the way like why didn't we continue the story of those like of newt over? 00:20:15.423 --> 00:20:15.984 Like what? 00:20:15.984 --> 00:20:20.913 Why the crash landing on this prison like an all-male, like religious prison? 00:20:20.913 --> 00:20:23.700 I'm very I was like what is this australia? 00:20:23.700 --> 00:20:26.404 Like I don't understand what is happening. 00:20:26.404 --> 00:20:32.385 I was so I was like I'm back to square one, like back to not knowing what the hell's going on over here. 00:20:32.385 --> 00:20:37.441 Guys, you know, and I don't, I don't know, I'm gonna. 00:20:37.461 --> 00:20:43.150 But you know, we're finally kind of tapping into the name of Xenomorph. 00:20:43.150 --> 00:20:43.410 Right. 00:20:43.410 --> 00:20:46.545 We have a different one in this movie. 00:20:46.545 --> 00:20:55.355 We have finally gotten a non-humanoid Xenomorph in this one and it's kind of this one's kind of crazy. 00:20:55.355 --> 00:21:00.846 Like they go back to the solo X, solo xenomorph in this one, the. 00:21:00.846 --> 00:21:11.303 The second one had, uh, you know, a whole bunch of them and then now this one it's like just one and we're back to just that one xenomorph being able to just rip through everybody. 00:21:11.303 --> 00:21:20.929 You know, and you know there's a little, there's a little secret that's, you know, weighing on ripley's mind that she finds out later in the film. 00:21:21.596 --> 00:21:22.117 She does. 00:21:22.117 --> 00:21:24.682 Yes, there's a lot to unpack with this one. 00:21:24.682 --> 00:21:32.266 There's a lot of really good ideas in this movie and then there's a lot of really poorly executed. 00:21:32.266 --> 00:21:35.063 Most of it is poorly executed. 00:21:35.063 --> 00:21:39.275 By the end of the movie, I would argue that most of the film is poorly executed. 00:21:39.275 --> 00:21:41.442 I really enjoyed the first half. 00:21:41.442 --> 00:21:42.505 I enjoyed the first half. 00:21:42.505 --> 00:21:49.265 The pacing was interesting, I liked the characters and then when the aliens started killing everyone off, I just checked out. 00:21:49.265 --> 00:21:50.601 I was just like okay. 00:21:52.297 --> 00:21:55.585 I felt like I laughed a lot during this movie. 00:21:55.585 --> 00:21:56.626 There was a lot. 00:21:56.626 --> 00:22:17.178 There was a lot because because, like you said, this one where it's incorporating a lot of those aspects of action that we were getting in the in the 90s and you know, the blood was part of it and some of the acting I guess I don't know just the way that people were acting in the 90s was like kind of similar. 00:22:17.178 --> 00:22:24.320 Like like I was getting there's a lot of kind of corniness that was happening in this movie, but I mean it was. 00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:25.202 It was a fun watch. 00:22:25.202 --> 00:22:33.105 Like I don't do I think that it's like the best in the the series, no, but do I think it's still fun to watch? 00:22:33.105 --> 00:22:34.974 Yes, like it, you know it was. 00:22:34.974 --> 00:22:44.683 It was definitely fun to watch and I think it was even better to like that to see you know rich just completely have his heart broken. 00:22:44.683 --> 00:22:47.401 You know, I thought he wanted new to be dead. 00:22:47.401 --> 00:22:51.643 He like he, like he was so dead set on like why, is this child alive in this movie. 00:22:51.976 --> 00:22:53.821 He wanted new to die, you know right. 00:22:53.821 --> 00:23:02.920 I didn't, and that's what happens but not in that way like just like, just like. 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:04.022 Well, how did she die? 00:23:04.022 --> 00:23:05.126 She drowned in like the freezing fluid. 00:23:05.146 --> 00:23:05.848 There was like a rip in the line. 00:23:05.868 --> 00:23:07.755 Yeah, yeah, like what drowning in space. 00:23:07.934 --> 00:23:09.419 Come on, man, like a little. 00:23:09.419 --> 00:23:17.509 Like, if you're gonna give me a death, like then she should have had like the alien implanted in her, like it should have been a little bit. 00:23:17.509 --> 00:23:19.316 I just feel like you wasted dude. 00:23:19.316 --> 00:23:25.954 You put like I know it's a different director, but you stuck like you gave her plot armor and then you kill her off camera. 00:23:25.954 --> 00:23:27.380 I don't understand. 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:32.397 Give her five minutes on screen so I I think that that was like actually so. 00:23:32.397 --> 00:23:40.846 So the the way that you're, you're angry, that that's actually like one of the bigger complaints about this movie is that there are, you know, they. 00:23:40.846 --> 00:23:45.422 They survived at the end of that movie, just to die off screen. 00:23:46.063 --> 00:23:57.383 I do and I I did like I did say last week that she had plot armor you agreed with me, so I was like I am golden she did. 00:23:57.883 --> 00:24:01.626 She did have plot armor for a film for a film. 00:24:01.807 --> 00:24:05.672 Yeah, yeah, but but I I did so. 00:24:05.672 --> 00:24:08.481 I do agree with you like the earlier in the in the movie. 00:24:08.481 --> 00:24:14.676 I do like the, the idea of you know, ripley like wanting to. 00:24:14.676 --> 00:24:23.670 She's like you know, we got to burn these bodies because, you know, and she was holding off withholding like the reason why, like she was saying it was cholera. 00:24:23.670 --> 00:24:37.905 Yeah, it was a cholera xenomorphia maybe, but yeah, like I thought that that was like a cool idea and then at the end of the day, it was her that was the one that had a xenomorph implanted in her. 00:24:38.275 --> 00:24:45.762 You mentioned that it's a secret that she keeps, but she doesn't know it until I don't even think she like realizes that it's a possibility. 00:24:45.762 --> 00:25:04.188 Until after that that new xenomorph like goes up to her and basically like sniffs her or, like you know, communicates with her a little bit and then leaves right you know, and I think at that point she realized oh, I have plot armor again, for real this time. 00:25:04.307 --> 00:25:05.269 Let me go check this out. 00:25:05.269 --> 00:25:07.638 Literal plot armor Well. 00:25:07.638 --> 00:25:12.557 Well, she also keeps the reason why she wanted like these bodies burned and or checked. 00:25:12.557 --> 00:25:16.467 You know she called it cholera instead of like yeah, there's a parasite in it. 00:25:16.467 --> 00:25:19.641 You know there's an alien parasite that could be in these bodies. 00:25:19.901 --> 00:25:28.366 But there's a lot of new stuff that this movie introduces and I think it's worth discussing because I like where they were headed. 00:25:28.366 --> 00:25:33.788 There's a lot of like cool just lore stuff that they, you know, added into the franchise. 00:25:33.788 --> 00:25:51.497 Now we know that the gestation period for Queens is much longer than the average alien, because she was on that base for several days, where we normally see a like an alien xenomorph develop and pop out of a body within. 00:25:51.497 --> 00:25:56.708 I think I think the novelization called it 12 hours for yeah, it was some. 00:25:56.847 --> 00:26:20.800 It was definitely like a short period of time yeah, so this is all happening, uh, rather slowly for her and it's giving her I don't know how she knew it was the queen, though she just kind of assumed, but because she says it aloud it becomes lore, you know, like that's, that's right so I don't know how she determines that, just from go ahead. 00:26:21.040 --> 00:26:37.615 I think she determined, possibly like after that interaction with the alien, that there might have been, like you said, there might have been some sort of communication or the way that it kind of reacted to her Like it didn't. 00:26:37.615 --> 00:26:42.076 You know, we don't really see how the xenomorphs interact with each other. 00:26:42.076 --> 00:26:49.721 You know, outside of, like you know, you just see them rushing whoever they're trying to kill, but like you don't see them interacting amongst each other, right? 00:26:49.721 --> 00:27:08.303 So I think that, like you know, when she had the idea like oh, let me get myself checked, you know, one like that it was taking, that she was starting to feel whatever she was feeling and that it was taking a while, that you know usually that the xenomorphs are just popping out like really quick. 00:27:08.784 --> 00:27:21.063 And two like yeah, like that interaction, maybe she was like okay, well, it, it sensed that the the xenomorph inside of me, but the interaction was kind of odd, you know, like some sort of fealty or whatever. 00:27:21.063 --> 00:27:22.998 You know, I don't know, yeah, it's. 00:27:22.998 --> 00:27:25.423 You know, maybe that's what she was. 00:27:25.423 --> 00:27:28.519 You know, maybe that that's how she came up with with the idea. 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.909 But you know, at this point it's speculation. 00:27:30.909 --> 00:27:33.978 It's never really like shown, maybe I mean, did it? 00:27:34.198 --> 00:27:40.147 no, it looked the same as any other, I think uh rich, what are your thoughts so far on our discussion? 00:27:40.147 --> 00:27:42.136 You've been quiet for a bit. 00:27:42.136 --> 00:27:43.220 Well all right. 00:27:43.259 --> 00:27:55.944 So I, I do, I do, I like, I like the introduction of, like the idea of the possibility, like the, the queen's gestation period is longer and that's why because I before you said 12 hours from the novelization, I haven't read that. 00:27:55.944 --> 00:27:59.497 I felt that, like, my guess was about 12 hours from it. 00:27:59.497 --> 00:27:59.917 It was quick. 00:27:59.917 --> 00:28:10.005 You know from the first what's his name I can't remember his name now, but the first guy who got face-hugged, and then Kane, kane, and then he had the alien come out, you know. 00:28:10.005 --> 00:28:15.363 So I liked, I really liked the new kind of xenomorph. 00:28:15.363 --> 00:28:21.416 I wish I'm a little greedy, but I almost wish, I wish that we had seen like other animals as well. 00:28:21.517 --> 00:28:33.457 You know, I felt obviously tragically terrible for the pooch who, uh, who sacrificed for this, you know, and uh, but I, I like you, I think, like you said earlier, dakota, I really liked the beginning. 00:28:33.457 --> 00:28:57.122 Like I was like oh, oh, oh, all right, you know, and then it almost feels like all these cool things are happening and then, once you figure out that she's got that, she's got, you know, the queen inside of her gestating or whatever, I feel that's when the movie just kind of like grinds to a halt a little bit and it almost takes too long, because once I know the queen's inside of her, I'm like, okay, look, she's got to die right. 00:28:57.122 --> 00:29:01.598 I'm like, okay, look, she's gotta die right, like that's I. 00:29:01.598 --> 00:29:12.876 I don't know what happens next, I don't know if she's gonna come back or anything, but I firmly knew that she was going to die because I had seen, like I think I guess I had seen an image somewhere of the little kind of like alien popping out of her. 00:29:12.876 --> 00:29:32.424 You know, and those aren't really that scary like if those aliens try to bite an apple, I bet you they wouldn't even be able to bite an apple like they, like the first bite would be like unsuccessful, you know, like it's not really, I don't know they would just like straight up that that, like other mouth that they have, they would just like penetrate through the thing and just obliterate it fair, fair, that makes sense. 00:29:32.484 --> 00:29:41.998 I just, uh, you know those, those that can't like bite apples, they don't intimidate I, I don't know, I I did, I'm not gonna lie to you, I think my parents wait, wait, back up, back up. 00:29:42.278 --> 00:29:44.243 Is this, is this a personal attack? 00:29:44.243 --> 00:29:45.646 Is this a personal attack? 00:29:45.646 --> 00:29:47.541 Has my wife been saying something at work? 00:29:49.778 --> 00:29:51.041 my teeth my teeth. 00:29:51.221 --> 00:29:56.051 My teeth face inward, basically, so I have a hard time biting an apple. 00:29:56.051 --> 00:30:05.382 I basically, when I bite into a chunk of apple, it's not a full chunk, it's two small chunks where my teeth are able to like grasp it. 00:30:05.382 --> 00:30:12.821 Okay, I have a weird jaw, I know so uh dude I did not dude, I didn't. 00:30:12.842 --> 00:30:20.887 My heart might pick up, my heart might be giving out jen gives me this information, he goes is there a way that you can incorporate it into the show? 00:30:20.887 --> 00:30:25.526 I'm like, what if I talk about how the little alien mouth can't bite the apple? 00:30:25.526 --> 00:30:26.227 And she's? 00:30:26.227 --> 00:30:28.039 And she's like is he gonna pick up on it? 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:33.923 I'm like I'm gonna go real heavy-handed on this and anthony's probably gonna be like what are you all talking about? 00:30:33.923 --> 00:30:38.981 I was like, but I'm gonna keep going until dac gets, and it was in just on cue. 00:30:39.303 --> 00:30:46.465 I was like, yeah, no, that thing would just obliterate oh, let's continue so uh, my second bite. 00:30:46.526 --> 00:30:48.489 My second bite of the apple is totally fine. 00:30:48.489 --> 00:30:51.082 It's just a really unpleasant and difficult first bite. 00:30:51.162 --> 00:30:54.813 Okay so all jokes aside, so so what? 00:30:54.853 --> 00:30:55.734 we were saying so. 00:30:55.734 --> 00:30:58.419 So what you're saying is that you need one of those small. 00:30:58.439 --> 00:31:04.367 Yeah, you need a chameleon, perhaps I uh, I won't lie though that scene I was waiting for it. 00:31:04.367 --> 00:31:08.942 I was dying to see how she was gonna die and I'm going. 00:31:08.942 --> 00:31:14.738 I'm not gonna lie to you the fact that she went like full golem, uh, also like hey, 90s movies. 00:31:14.738 --> 00:31:18.426 Uh, why does everything have to go into like lava, whatever terminator 2? 00:31:18.426 --> 00:31:18.806 But like I I do. 00:31:18.806 --> 00:31:19.672 And then when she was falling in I was like wait, are we really not gonna get it? 00:31:19.672 --> 00:31:20.376 Why does everything have to go into like lava, whatever Terminator 2. 00:31:20.376 --> 00:31:20.376 ? 00:31:20.376 --> 00:31:20.351 But like I do. 00:31:20.351 --> 00:31:24.665 And then when she was falling in I was like wait, are we really not going to get it? 00:31:24.665 --> 00:31:26.421 Are we not going to get it? 00:31:26.421 --> 00:31:35.023 And then it happened and as corny as it kind of and cheesy as it was, I'm not going to lie to you that I love that Like she's falling. 00:31:35.064 --> 00:31:40.611 Yeah, as I saw that, I was like oh man, the 90s cheese. 00:31:40.611 --> 00:31:43.279 And then she like hugs onto it as she like falls in. 00:31:43.339 --> 00:31:51.824 Yeah, let's discuss that a little bit, because it almost, in a weird twisted way, looked motherly, you know, like holding the baby down to your chest. 00:31:51.824 --> 00:31:59.064 Obviously, that's the visual that's being shown or showcased, but is that what she's trying to accomplish? 00:31:59.064 --> 00:32:02.321 Or she just doesn't want it to jump off of her, or what are we thinking here? 00:32:02.984 --> 00:32:10.703 oh, I assume she was just trying to make sure it died with her, but wow, what a twist if she, like, had some sort of. 00:32:10.703 --> 00:32:31.618 I mean, in some weird ways, ripley is probably more connected to the aliens than any living thing in existence at this point, because they blew newt out of the water, you know so yeah that, that that'll definitely roll into the next one dun dun dun, I'm not even no spoilers he has no idea. 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:32.842 Yeah, I don't trust you guys. 00:32:32.903 --> 00:32:33.284 I was gonna. 00:32:33.284 --> 00:32:34.205 I'm gonna leave it there. 00:32:34.205 --> 00:32:35.396 But there's no faith in you. 00:32:35.396 --> 00:32:36.779 But you know at least. 00:32:37.141 --> 00:32:57.419 But it's kind of sad that ripley's dead and we we kind of lose, like sigourney weaver, as like the primary actress in the series you know I don't believe anything you people say I will report back to the I will report back to the listeners next week, uh but I mean she died, I think. 00:32:57.439 --> 00:32:58.101 Hold on wait. 00:32:58.101 --> 00:33:01.567 How do you come back from like being fully enveloped in lava? 00:33:01.607 --> 00:33:04.383 when, when the terminator went into lava. 00:33:04.383 --> 00:33:05.144 That was it. 00:33:05.144 --> 00:33:06.087 We never saw. 00:33:06.107 --> 00:33:10.101 We never saw him again yeah, listen, I don't trust the company. 00:33:10.101 --> 00:33:11.989 Paul reiser worked for the company. 00:33:11.989 --> 00:33:12.972 I don't trust them. 00:33:12.972 --> 00:33:15.897 All right, the company can do tons of stuff. 00:33:15.897 --> 00:33:16.338 Apparently. 00:33:16.338 --> 00:33:17.901 The company rules everything. 00:33:17.901 --> 00:33:20.683 It's like just the government basically. 00:33:20.804 --> 00:33:52.979 So you know, it's probably call up lex luther, lana lang or something and she'll show up and be a villain, I bet you it'll actually be really interesting once we get to alien earth, because I did watch the first episode of alien earth and they do discuss the like, the geopolitical landscape of like how companies rule everything and it's it's actually it's going to be really like an interesting discussion after we've seen everything that the company has done and you know all all the machinations that occur over the years so like outer worlds kind of like. 00:33:52.999 --> 00:33:54.903 I don't know if you ever played the outer worlds games. 00:33:54.903 --> 00:33:58.703 Uh, I haven't no okay, it's a very, it's very company. 00:33:58.703 --> 00:34:08.905