WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.000 Welcome back to Project Geekology. 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:04.400 This is episode 134. 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:08.000 It's a continuation of our Alien Marathon. 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:10.400 And we are a week late. 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:14.880 We took a little bit of time off, and for once, it's not my fault. 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:17.120 And I'm proud about that. 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.120 But we'll talk more about that in a bit. 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:25.679 We're covering the fourth film in the alien franchise in release order, not chronological order. 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:31.679 And because if we did cover this chronologically, this would be the very last of all the things that we cover. 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.520 And I don't think this is a good thing to end our alien discussion on. 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:37.439 But we'll talk more about that as we go. 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:41.280 But Alien Resurrection is the topic of today's podcast. 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:50.399 Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but if you, the listener, have not seen Alien Resurrection, I would not pause this to go and watch it. 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.640 Or at least I wouldn't rush to pause it and watch it. 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:54.159 You can watch it after the podcast. 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.719 But it's one of those where like it's a movie, you know, we're and we're gonna cover it. 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:00.399 I am one-third of your hosts. 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:01.359 My name is Dakota. 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:08.000 I am joined as always with Anthony, and the late episode is actually my fault this time. 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:16.400 I was sick last week, and I just would not have been able to go over a podcast without sounding like the Walking Dead. 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:21.840 And joining us as always is No, it's uh Rich. 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.920 Sorry, you said Walking Dead and you triggered me. 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.439 I'm very, very excited to be back with you guys, Anthony. 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:34.640 Glad you're back to uh podcasting health, so we can talk about the fourth film of the series, which is I'm not sure if you guys mentioned this. 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.560 It's subtitled Believe It or Not Ripley's Back. 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:43.200 And this continues from our last episode, dear listener. 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:59.840 I'm not sure if you remember, where I was convinced by my fellow podcasters here that, in fact, Sigordney Weaver, aka Ripley, aka as I like to call her Riley, because I can't remember her name, it does come back. 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:04.799 And actually, it's called Resurrection, I'm pretty sure because she's back. 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.800 So, Anthony Dakota, answer for yourselves. 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:11.039 I feel like you guys knew you knew this was coming. 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:13.120 They could have resurrected new. 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.159 Honestly, it's been a very long time since I've seen this movie. 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.960 And you know, going back to it now, it's it was for a good reason that it's been so long. 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:25.439 But yeah, I have absolved myself of any wrongdoing here. 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:35.120 I don't know about Anthony, but look, if if it's a if it's a way to get you to watch these with fresh eyes, with open ears, I'm willing to lie just a little bit. 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:42.080 Well, you know, the funny thing is, I'm realizing by uh the release, I've seen this movie. 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.800 I don't know I don't know why. 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.479 And everything started clicking for me. 00:02:48.719 --> 00:03:00.879 I can't remember the character's name, but the guy with the dreadlocks, i his action sequences stuck out in my brain, and then when Ripley does the basketball behind Ron Perlman's head, right? 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:06.639 Unless that is from unless that's from something else, then I have seen that. 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:13.439 Like I I was it everything kind of flooded back into my head, but I don't know this must have been a random one-off. 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:24.479 Like my friends were like, hey, let's go to the movies because we have nothing to do on a Friday, and we saw whatever was playing, because there's no other reason why I didn't see any other one in the franchise. 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.240 Like I just showed up and said, Let's go see four. 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:28.879 Love it. 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.479 And and and you ended up like saying the worst one. 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:37.439 I I mean it's safe to say that this is the worst one. 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:39.840 There is some stuff here. 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:41.280 There is some stuff. 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:44.159 I mean, that lab is interesting. 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:45.680 It's like an island of Dr. 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:46.240 Moreau. 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:53.199 Uh, this one seems like it I'm surprised Sigordney Weaver decided to do this. 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:55.120 Yeah, we'll get to all that. 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.039 Yeah, we'll definitely get to our our discussion of alien resurrection. 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:00.000 We have a lot to say. 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.560 I'm sure some of us have positive things to say. 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:08.000 I'm I'm looking at my co-hosts, hoping for some positivity here uh in these dark times. 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:09.759 Anthony's giving me the thumbs down. 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.680 We're gonna jump right into you know everybody's favorite segments. 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.160 What the hell have we been up to these past couple of weeks? 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:17.519 Uh Anthony, we'll start with you. 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:28.639 Future Anthony here, and if you would like to skip the segment of what we have been up to, head on over to 23 minutes, and that is when the main discussion begins. 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:29.920 See y'all. 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:40.240 I so the week before the the week that I got sick, I actually went to go see uh Kometsu no Yaiba in theaters. 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:42.399 It was uh really good, man. 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:47.360 You're gonna have to speak a little bit of English because my uh my ears are bleeding. 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.120 The Demon Slayer movie. 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:50.160 No, I know, I know. 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:50.639 Yeah, man. 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:52.079 Yeah, it was good. 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:52.720 It was good. 00:04:52.879 --> 00:05:05.920 I I will say that I feel like they could have benefited from maybe another season because man, they had a lot of backstory going on, a little bit too much for a movie, but it was still pretty good. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:06.560 I liked it. 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:07.680 Alright, I have a question. 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:13.920 I know both of you went to go see this movie, but I know only one of you actually like watched it. 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:20.800 Anthony as a Demon Slayer fan, how many seasons are there? 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:25.600 Why did they decide to break up the finale into movies? 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.319 So there's only four actual seasons. 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.079 It's a short manga series. 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.560 I think there's like 24 volumes. 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:39.920 And so, like, I mean, like in in terms of like manga, that's pretty short, right? 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.279 That's a pretty short run. 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:47.040 I'm not entirely sure why they decided to go the movie route for the last bit. 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:49.920 I I'm not opposed to it. 00:05:50.079 --> 00:06:06.560 If they did one more season, like a 13-episode run that covered the rest of these fights, and then maybe the last bit of it would be a movie where they fight the the like last upper moon and then moves on, then then that would have been cool. 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:20.160 But like I mean they they really had there was a lot of like backstory, especially for the upper three, like his past, and man, that that they literally went through like his whole backstory, so that thing was long, dude. 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:22.639 But other than that, it was a pretty good movie. 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:25.199 It it felt like an uncut season. 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:39.759 Like they ran each episode out, and they took the intro and outro out, and it was just like one continuous episode, or like one continuous season with um the episodes like together. 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:44.240 Well, uh, for whatever reason, they decided to go this route. 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:49.519 It did pay off because it was a massive, massive success worldwide. 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:58.160 I think it's up there in the top ten highest-grossing films for the year right now, and that's incredible for an anime spin-off. 00:06:58.560 --> 00:06:59.040 Absolutely. 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:08.000 I mean, I've gone to the theater to see anime movies, but I've never seen it a theater packed out the way that this one was. 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:28.800 Like, I mean, it was packed out, and you you know you can expect the same for the next two movies, which I think they announced that yes, the next part's gonna be next year, and then I'm I'm assuming that they'll cap it off in 2026 or 2027, so and then yeah, that'll be it. 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.800 But yeah, no, it was a really good movie. 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:38.560 I mean, those of our listeners that have seen it, I mean, we have a lot of listeners that listen to that Demon Slayer episode. 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.399 Dude, every day, every day there's downloads. 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:41.680 Yeah, yeah, every day. 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:54.959 So we do have a lot of fans, and trust me, there will be a second part to that episode, especially to kind of cap off the last season, which there's not much to talk about, and then the movies that follow it. 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:08.879 So I'm really just waiting for those to finish up, and then I'll do a part two to that Demon Slayer episode, and hopefully that one gets an equal amount of downloads because it's like our best episode. 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:10.959 Day in, day out, yeah, for sure. 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:13.120 But yeah, Rich, how how did you like it? 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.040 Guys, I tried. 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:15.600 All right. 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:19.199 I had one of my first track meets that morning. 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.079 I think I woke up at like 5 30 to go. 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:32.000 Then I left the track meet, came home, unpacked my car, went to City Field, and uh Oh yeah, we we I I saw you at City Field that day. 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.759 You showed up, and then you were like, we've got to leave early because we have a movie to catch. 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:38.960 Turns out the movie was Demon Slayer. 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.399 So I get to Demon Slayer at about 8 p.m. 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:48.399 and I the feature I love most about this theater is the it's right about baseball. 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.559 Oh, City Fields, Anthony, is the Mets stadium. 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:50.799 Yeah. 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:52.799 So he went to a baseball game before going to see this. 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:54.720 So what were you doing over there, Dakota? 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:56.320 I was eating hot dogs. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:04.480 So I I go to the theater and my my it's it's it's real local, it's five minutes away. 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:08.879 I'm very excited. 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.919 I mean the Mets have lost, so I'm in a pretty sour mood. 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:22.720 But we get to the theater and I settle in, and the person in front of me, they're the only two people in the entire theater who did not recline their chairs. 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.559 And it happened to be the two people that were sitting in front of me and to my right. 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.320 So what this created was a real problem. 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:40.799 I had to decide because them not being reclined blocked the subtitles, and my son insisted on seeing it in Japanese with subtitles. 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:46.960 So I was watching the first 15 minutes, 20 minutes, and I was a little mad respect for your son, by the way. 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:47.679 Just just throwing it. 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:48.559 Oh, he always does this. 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:50.720 Yeah, he uh shout out to Charlie. 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.799 I mean, he really does keep it real. 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:53.759 Charlie's a real one. 00:09:54.080 --> 00:10:03.200 He wants to be a mangaka and he's doing the Duolingo and trying to he wants to he doesn't want to just write, you know, create you know, manga in the United States. 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.919 He wants to be somebody who learns how to do it in Japan. 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:07.120 So that's awesome. 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:07.919 Kudos to him. 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:16.159 That's a cool yeah, it's a cool uh but not cool, not so cool when your father is old and he can't see the subtitles if he reclines in his chair. 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:19.440 Because after 20 minutes, I was a little overwhelmed. 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.039 I didn't know really what was going on. 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.279 I've not seen one thing about Demon Slayer. 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:24.720 This was all for him. 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:28.480 And once I reclined, all I heard was Japanese guys, and I'm sorry. 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.320 I think I dealt with eight minutes. 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:39.279 Apparently, I snored so loudly that my wife had to wake me up because I startled two teenage boys that were sitting to the left of me. 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:50.000 I remember waking up thinking that they were rude because they were talking and looking at me, but now I pieced everything together, and it was that I was an old man snoring in the middle of the theater. 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:53.519 So that is that is a fantastic show. 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:55.200 I have I have no review of the movie. 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:56.799 I'm gonna have to go back and watch it. 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:57.679 I'm gonna watch it. 00:10:58.559 --> 00:10:59.200 Yeah, eventually. 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.759 You gotta watch a couple seasons of that show first. 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:11.600 It would probably make more sense, but uh I I guess tangentially related to that, I will mention that the family has solidified their costumes for Comic-Con this year. 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.159 I am going as Vegeta. 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:18.080 My son is going as help me out, Dakota. 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:18.799 Trunks. 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:19.440 Trunks. 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:20.639 Chunks. 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:21.919 And trunks, yeah. 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.799 Trunks, and my wife is going as Boma. 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:26.480 Is that correct? 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:33.759 Yeah, so uh listeners, in the past couple weeks we we uh tricked Rich into believing that he was gonna be Boma. 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:35.519 I'm very confused. 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:40.080 Uh yeah, we were just like, oh, so that that naturally means you're gonna be Boma, right? 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:44.799 And that I brought that back up to you in at City Fields, and your your son left. 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.559 They kept trying to it was fun. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:47.919 They kept doing no jokes on me. 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:49.440 They were like, oh, you're gonna be Reiki. 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.320 And I'm like, who's I'm like, okay, I'll be whatever. 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.879 You know, like I'm not I'm not trying to be a problem here. 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:56.720 I I don't know Well who are you gonna be? 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.639 So I'm gonna be Vegeta. 00:11:59.039 --> 00:11:59.679 Oh, okay. 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:01.440 Although I have no I'm very upset. 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:03.679 I thought you were saying you're gonna be Roshi. 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:04.960 No, no, no. 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.919 Oh, they thought about it, apparently. 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:09.679 Yeah, that was one of the options. 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:11.200 Not Master Roshi. 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:14.000 Anthony, um sorry, we cut you off. 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:15.919 Is that all you've been up to the past couple weeks? 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:16.960 Yeah, man. 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:25.120 Because last week I I was recovering from sickness, so no gym, just straight resting. 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:28.159 So you gotta rest occasionally. 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.360 And then, you know, Rich has been prepping for his uh, you know, Boma cosplay. 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.840 Uh Rich, what what have you been up to other than that? 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.279 Uh just uh I mean work's picking up a lot. 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.480 I'm uh coaching, so that's just taking up a lot of my time. 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:50.399 I'm uh ordering weird patches to make my own merch because I'm too cheap to buy the school's merch. 00:12:50.559 --> 00:13:05.440 So I just actually got a very sweet Dia de los Muertos Calavera, but it's Rams themed with Ram logos in its eyes and blue and gold accents all over. 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:23.039 I've already affixed it to one of my low-cost Amazon sleeveless hoodies that I wear for coaching, so I have a very uniquely themed Hispanic Heritage Month Rams coach gear that I'm very excited to unveil this Saturday. 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:34.399 I'm also excited because I ordered Mario Odyssey after weeks and weeks of back and forth and debate with my son and myself, even though Mario Wonder is newer. 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:45.440 I think my favorite Mario, despite playing all of them, like you know, in six whatever, like as they came out, my favorite Mario Brothers game had to be Mario 64. 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:47.039 It just changed the game. 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:53.279 Really quick, I'm gonna throw it over to Anthony, because how would you pronounce that game franchise? 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:54.480 Oh boy. 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.919 No, I'm just I'm just curious, like you know, it's funny. 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:07.840 It's funny that you said that because literally I was thinking in my mind, like, oh, that's an interesting way of uh pronouncing Mario. 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.919 Everybody in New York does this, everybody says Mario in New York Blue. 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:13.200 They say Mario. 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:17.679 Did you see did you see the Super Mario Brothers movie? 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:19.600 Did you hear John Liguzamo? 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.120 Um I saw the Super Mario Brothers movie. 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:23.679 Really? 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.200 Go listen to Dennis Haskins and listen to John Liguzamo. 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:28.320 And I'm fairly considered. 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.240 Listen, I don't trust I don't trust movies. 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.679 Ever since the last airbender came out and they called him Ung. 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:40.399 Yeah. 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:44.000 No, I don't trust the pronunciations of any movie. 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:45.440 Oh, snap. 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:49.039 Alright, I'm starting some beef between Miami and New York right now. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:50.879 Uh listen to it. 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:52.240 Hey, am I wrong, Dakota? 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.799 Like when as soon as I heard the words Ung uttered, I was just like Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.440 I mean, it's it they they messed it up. 00:14:59.519 --> 00:14:59.919 Yeah. 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.480 I too have always said Mario. 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:07.679 I had never actually met a Mario until I moved to New York. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:13.120 Uh like I actually met like a like people named Mario, but like in Florida, everyone would call them Mario. 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:14.240 It's really it's interesting. 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:18.480 Yeah, yeah, like we like we have a restaurant down here, it's Mario's. 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:21.360 But like See, like uh that's what we said. 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:22.399 My wife is married. 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:23.919 Let's wheel it back in. 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.360 Like his my son's godfather is Mario. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:28.240 Okay. 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.039 Yeah, so it's just it's just a cultural difference, really. 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:31.919 Like it's it's literally. 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.720 So I'm pretty sure that's like the official pronunciation. 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.279 Isn't that just South New York? 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:43.600 I will say, here's the thing. 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:56.240 There's a lot of Italian-American pronunciations that are just blatantly wrong, like Muzzarel and Proschute, and all of those, like all of those pronunciation are wrong. 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:02.720 Like you go to Italy or you you speak Italian, that's not actually how you would pronounce those things. 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:10.320 So I do think that American like Italian-American accents change the way that certain things are pronounced. 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.159 Are you saying that you don't like gabagul? 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:13.600 I love gabagul. 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:20.879 I love the taste of it, I love the idea of it, I love the meme of it, but um I don't think that that is the correct pronunciation of Capacola. 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:26.080 Rich, who is uh Ezio's uncle in uh Assassin's Creed? 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:28.720 Oh, oh god. 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:37.759 I love and it was a blatant, like, just super super Mario Brothers ripoff where he's like, it's a me, Mario. 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:39.519 Don't even recall that. 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.320 Yes, that was my favorite one. 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:44.480 That's my favorite Assassin's Creed game. 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:45.519 It's just fantastic. 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:47.039 Yeah, I don't know, that was solid. 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:51.440 But yeah, Dakota, I don't know if uh Rich has anything else left. 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.080 But uh we gotta hear what Dakota's up to. 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.120 Dakota dropped uh a video, Alien Video. 00:16:57.360 --> 00:16:59.440 Yeah, actually, I was about to forget about that. 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:01.919 Yeah, I totally I I dropped a video yesterday. 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:09.039 It's hopefully the first in a series of alien timeline slash lore breakdown videos. 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.319 So far the first one has been decently well received. 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:38.960 It didn't get a whole bunch of views or anything, but I'm hoping that over time, if I continue this project, it'll become kind of like a time capsule of what each film brought to the table, which is kind of it's been inspired, or that video was inspired by this podcast, because that's what we're doing right now, where we're kind of going film by film and reviewing it, but we're not necessarily talking about the nitty-gritty of like uh the minutiae of the lore and everything. 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.720 So I I wanted to do something a little bit extra on my channel. 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:49.519 Near the end of the video, I actually do give a pretty big shout out to Project Ecology, and yeah, I'm gonna keep doing that. 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.880 Hopefully, it brings a couple more people to the pub. 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:54.240 Sweet. 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.119 Yeah, I mean, we've we've been Oh, sorry, go ahead. 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:02.160 I would say our our our daily our our daily uptick has been pretty decent. 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:10.880 We're like on track to have over to like our monthly downloads have been like steadily going up, so thank you all. 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.240 Yeah, thank you. 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:26.480 And you know, while we're talking about like the meta aspect of our podcast, I think it's a good time to ask for a review if you haven't already reviewed this podcast and you enjoy the content that we produce. 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.119 Please be sure to give it a what do you call it? 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.200 Five star, but like there's a word that we use well, Anthony, do you remember? 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:38.319 Yeah, you know, and I'm always reminded of the word when I watch aliens. 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:46.880 You know, like whenever I see a xenomorph, I'm like, man, that is the kind of juicy review that I want on this podcast. 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:54.640 There are literal aliens swimming around in water, but they're somehow even more wet when they're out of water. 00:18:54.799 --> 00:19:06.319 They are juiced up, oozed up, and yeah, that's how we need your review to land on whatever podcast application you're listening to this to, uh, because that helps bring more viewers to whatever it is we're babbling about. 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:12.640 Before we jump into Alien Resurrection, I did start replaying Kingdom Hearts 2. 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.240 So, Kingdom Hearts has always been my favorite game. 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:18.160 Pretty much ever since I was a kid. 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.519 It has just been like the bee's knees for me. 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.119 It blew me away as a kid. 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:41.279 And when I think of nostalgia, that is the thing that because it's a game built on nostalgia, you know, like it's a game built into worlds that have existed within the Disney canon for 50 plus years, some of them, at the time of those games coming out. 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:53.200 So going back to those, it's like I'm nostalgic for the nostalgia, and it's it's a bizarre cyclical thing, but it's it's something that's spoken to me and plenty of other millennials throughout the years. 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:59.200 And yeah, so I'm but what I always end up doing is restarting Kingdom Hearts 1. 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.720 So I've played Kingdom Hearts 1 probably about a hundred times. 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.480 Not through completely, but I've at least started it a hundred times. 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:08.160 I'm positive I've hit that mark. 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.440 But I never really get to Kingdom Hearts 2. 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:17.039 So that's the game that I've played much less, and I probably haven't played it in over 15 years. 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:24.240 So I'm really excited to just, you know, I just skipped Kingdom Hearts 1 because I know it so well, and I just went straight into Kingdom Hearts 2. 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:30.400 And I started this because uh Kingdom Hearts 1 hit an anniversary recently, I think it was last week. 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.319 It was it hit 23 years since it's been released, so I decided, why not? 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:41.200 You know, and it's it's kind of like all over my social media right now, so I'm just I'm diving back in. 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:42.240 So I'm excited about it. 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.920 I literally just started today, so I'm still in Twilight Town. 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:51.200 Yeah, so Actually, that's crazy because I started playing Birth by Sleep. 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:52.160 Again? 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:53.599 Or just for the first time? 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:54.720 No, no, no, no. 00:20:54.880 --> 00:21:00.079 Like I I've played Birth by Sleep before too, but it's been a very, very long time. 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:01.599 How are you playing it? 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:07.279 Do you have the physical copy of the game or do you have like the 1.5, 2.5 collection? 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:09.680 So I actually have both. 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.319 But I'm playing it on PSP. 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:13.119 Old school. 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:14.400 Old school, yeah. 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:15.359 I like it. 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:15.680 Yeah. 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:17.279 Retro gaming. 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:23.200 Is rich is uh Winnie the Pooh, that franchise is owned by Disney, correct? 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:25.920 Well, I mean it's no, sorry. 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:34.400 Winnie the Pooh is a character that's in the public domain, but that version of the character that you see in the movies is owned by Disney. 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:58.559 So theoretically, when Disney releases the baseball cards, the collaboration uh with MLB, where Disney characters will be wearing MLB uniforms, is it most probable that the Mets will be represented by Eeyore because we are just long-suffering and depressed fans? 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.440 I have no idea. 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:06.240 So, for those of you listening that don't know, uh it was just announced today as I'm recording this. 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:25.519 And today is the 24th of September, uh, Wednesday, that Disney was teaming up with Topps and MLB to create a line of trading cards that are like baseball inspired, but with Disney characters in some of the baseball outfits that MLB players play with. 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:33.759 So I think we only saw some of the normal characters, the Nikki's, the Minis, the Goofies, in that little teaser that they relayed. 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.839 So I don't know, I don't know exactly what is the scope of that. 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:43.920 I don't know if it's gonna be like Lorcana, where they have like all of the Disney films doing stuff like that. 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.079 But I have to believe that this is inspired by the success of Lorcana. 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.079 Like that that game blew up. 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:57.599 I would if I were you, I would I would I would put aside all the money you can right now, Dakota, and save up to buy all of this stuff. 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.720 I think this should be your next endeavor, really. 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:02.160 Like Lorcana. 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:14.000 You should just pull out all of your money and savings and credit and crypto, whatever you got, pull out all your stocks, put it into MLB trading cards that are paired up with Disney. 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:17.359 Guys, let's jump into Alien Resurrection. 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:20.160 I have a couple things to say starting this episode off. 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:21.279 Is it an apology? 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:23.039 Because I mentioned Is it an apology? 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.240 It is an apology. 00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.279 Yeah, actually, no, I do actually have to apologize. 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:33.759 Because last week I said that this film was directed by who did I say it was directed by? 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:34.480 I can't remember. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.079 I don't I always forget this guy's name. 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.119 Joss Whedon. 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:38.640 Very oh, really? 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:44.720 So I claim that this movie last week was directed by Joss Whedon. 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:45.759 That's wrong. 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:53.839 He is attached to this movie, but he is not the director, and that's a mistake that I've somehow lived with in my mind for a very long time. 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:58.240 So the actual director is Jean-Pierre Genet. 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:04.880 And the connection with Joss Whedon is that he wrote it. 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:18.400 And I do think that his filmmaking style and writing style, even though this isn't a good movie, does feel very Joss Whedon at times. 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:31.279 And if anyone has watched Firefly, you will definitely feel strong Firefly vibes by some of the characters in this particular movie. 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:38.400 He even writes Ripley kind of like he writes the character of River in Firefly. 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:44.640 You know, early, early Ripley in this movie where she is almost like non-verbal and kind of just like really weird. 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:45.680 Yeah, he's very strong. 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.319 You don't even think about that, dude, now that you point it out, like I see it. 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:51.519 That's wild. 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:56.319 So I apologize for leading anyone on last episode. 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:58.079 It's not a John Sweden film. 00:24:58.240 --> 00:24:59.519 It's a Junet film. 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:04.000 So yeah, I don't know if that's the apology you were looking for, Rich, but I sorry. 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:11.759 I think the apology would probably be that both of you made me think that Riley was gone. 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.160 Uh Ripley, Ripley, why can't I get that? 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:15.920 Ripley was gone forever. 00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:20.000 I was so and I'm not gonna lie, I did not cheat. 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:24.319 I legitimately thought, I was like, this can't be it, right? 00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:29.519 And the minute the podcast ends, like I this is just some behind the scenes for you listeners. 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:39.119 The podcast ends, and often if my wife is busy doing something, I will almost immediately start watching the next assignment. 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.519 Even if it's just to get a taste of it, right? 00:25:41.759 --> 00:26:22.880 So I go to my Hulu, and of course the next movie is recommended on the banner, and I see Sigordney Weaver's face, and I'm like, these liars! So uh yeah, and and then you know, I as as I mentioned earlier, it just was weird when I started to realize that I I had seen it before, and it it was kind of a weird experience because I had no recollection of seeing them of seeing this movie, and I don't know why I would have seen the fourth in the series, but it it was a movie, it had um a plot, i you know. 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:24.400 There were some scenes in it. 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:29.440 Yeah, there were some cool scenes, there was a lot of juice from the aliens. 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.759 I I will admit that. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:32.880 The Island of Dr. 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.160 Moreau lab scenes was memorable, I suppose. 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:49.200 The you guys don't have the background of Ripley's baby alien being sucked outside into space, which was a fairly haunting image. 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:51.279 Uh I don't know what happened here. 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.319 They took a turn, and it is not a surprise that there's a bit of a a break after this movie. 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:56.960 Yeah. 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.920 There there is definitely a break after this movie. 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:05.920 The next one doesn't come out until 2012, but at least Ripley's back. 00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:11.519 You know, like she's back in the franchise, so going forward you have a little bit more Ripley to look forward to. 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.440 I I think that's a lie. 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:26.079 I'm I don't think that I don't think that's I think Sigurdney Weaver is all doing Freaky Friday, and I don't think we're gonna see her again in the franchise, but it's I don't think that's that's definitely not Sigourney Weaver. 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.720 Um I think I think you're confusing actresses here now. 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:32.160 Oh, it's Jimmy Lee Curtis. 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.000 Whatever, whatever, whatever. 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:34.799 Yeah, man. 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.559 This is one of those movies that it's very easy to check out of. 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:43.440 Yeah, it's easy to start like scrolling on your phone and like what else is there to do. 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.559 And then I'm like, oh wait, I'm watching this for a podcast. 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:47.759 Yeah, yeah. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:54.079 And then your mind starts to wonder, like, you know, hey, did I did I do that one thing that I was supposed to do? 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.240 Oh crap, wait, I'm watching a movie. 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:01.680 There there's some I think there are some interesting concepts in this movie. 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.480 And I don't want to like write it off entirely. 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.319 But there's a lot that I don't like. 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:17.440 First and foremost, I don't like that they've kind of like written off Wayland Utani as like the big bad threat in the galaxy. 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:26.240 Even though it's never really been the big bad threat, I do think Wayland Utani is the source of all of Ripley's trauma. 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:32.880 You know, like they were the ones who pulled her out of hypersleep to go check on that derelict alien spacecraft in the first movie. 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:46.400 They were the ones who sent her back to that planet in aliens, they were the ones who, you know, tried to get the the anyway, i Whaley Newtani's been like this threat in the background for such a long time. 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:55.359 And now they have basically gone defunct in the past 200 plus years that Ripley has been dead. 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:56.960 We don't know anything about it. 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:17.440 I don't think there's much in terms of you know, tie-in comics or novelizations or novels rather, that you know, expand on like what happened to potentially the the m biggest corporation it that's ever been, but uh apparently it no longer exists 200 years after Alien 3. 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.599 Or Alien Cubed, as Anthony is about to tell me. 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:33.200 So that that's like for me I know there's much worse things, you know, like creatively that happens in this movie, but that that kind of bothers me a little bit. 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:49.440 But I don't hate the idea of them trying to resurrect Ripley through, you know, just trying to find DNA fragments uh hidden in like the molten ore uh from that planet. 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.519 I don't I strongly disagree. 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:59.920 Look, I've watched Jurassic Park, I've watched a lot of movies where things are recognized. 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:01.119 Created from DNA. 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:18.160 How do you recreate Riley and the xenomorph as two separate but the same like you can't if you cloned a woman who was pregnant, you wouldn't get a woman who was pregnant, you would get that woman, right? 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.559 You wouldn't get the small child inside gestating. 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:31.039 Unless they also have DNA of the baby mixed in with the molten lava, which they technically do. 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:35.519 So like you're saying that they cloned them separately and then implanted the alien. 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:40.720 I think they cloned them together, which is why there were so many failed attempts prior to it. 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:46.880 That's how I understood the like the genetic tampering that led to the first seven mishaps. 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:50.640 Um I don't even know how it's possible that you could uh it could be successful. 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:58.799 It doesn't even make like if it's not separate, I'm sorry, I don't know why Margaret and Science of such a honestly just mess of a movie. 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:18.400 But I don't know why this point bothered me so much, but it's the one thing that I was like, I don't and then like the DNA's not separate, like now it's in Riley's human half as well, like that uh right because then later Riley consents Anthony. 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:19.359 Am I off base here? 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.839 Like what what is what are you what are your thoughts, man? 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:28.640 Yeah, what do what are your thoughts on the the resurrection and like all of the genetic uh the only thing that you're off base is with the name. 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.079 Did I say Riley again? 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.599 Oh you keep saying you keep saying Riley's believe it or not. 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:44.799 Riley Riley honestly, like for me, I didn't even really like question the science because like my mind was like not a hundred percent in this movie. 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:52.559 Like I just like I there was some like good action scenes, but like largely story-wise, it just was not a good movie. 00:31:52.880 --> 00:32:03.359 So it's hard to like find a solid foundation on something when there's really no solid foundation to to really like set it on, you know? 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:08.319 So I guess like for me, I just I let it just be. 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:22.480 I let it be what it's try whatever it was trying to be, because like I mean, there's just that alien baby was just like I don't know what was going on, but I was disturbed. 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:30.160 Dakota has a an image of um I guess Ripley's baby? 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.640 Like, I mean like dude, what what is that? 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:40.400 Tech so technically Ripley's baby is the xenomorph queen. 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:49.680 That's the queen xenomorph that you know is the one populating this space station little face hugger eggs. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.559 But they they they skirt around a lot in this movie, first and foremost. 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.880 So so they're like her grandchildren. 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:56.000 Yes. 00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:08.079 So the big ugly monster thing at the end, which is a human xenomorph hybrid, but more human than xenomorph, is technically her grandkid, I guess. 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:18.720 And it's terrifying, but it's cool looking, you know, like it is like a grotesque abomination that they brought to life, and it looks realistic. 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:24.240 It's a very, very terrifying puppet costume, I don't know what you want to call it. 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:25.200 Muppet. 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.359 It's a very terrifying Muppet. 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:42.640 And yeah, so what I don't understand, and that that what I'm what I was trying to get at earlier, is they they make a lot of leaps in judgment, and there's a certain point where they find the queen and she's having a hard time. 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.559 We don't really understand what's going on, but what's his name? 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.119 Wormtongue uh Wormtongue from Is it Wormtongue or Wormtail? 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:51.920 I was confused with it. 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:52.880 Worm tongue, yeah. 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.119 Wormtail is uh Peter Pettigory. 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.200 Harry Potter, yes, yes, yes, yes, sorry. 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.079 Brad Doriff, who plays Dr. 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.559 Jonathan, what's his name? 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.640 I can't actually see what his character's name is. 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:05.440 Wormtongue. 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:06.319 Wormtongue. 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:06.880 Dr. 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:07.680 Jonathan Wormtongue. 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:08.239 It's Dr. 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:09.119 Jonathan Wormtongue. 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.079 That'd be amazing. 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:30.320 He's basically being cocooned for eventual implantation of one of the face auger eggs, and he's, you know, giving all the exposition, like he suddenly knows so much about what is about to happen, you know, he's basically like She has too much human DNA or too much of your DNA or something. 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:40.239 And that's when she like gives like act that the queen gives actual birth to this monstrosity that seemingly loves Ripley. 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:52.320 And it's actually like there there is a moment in this movie where you almost feel bad for this thing, as it's like it's clearly enamored to be in the presence of Ripley. 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:59.199 I've you know, there's clear longing there, and then Ripley blows it out of a hole in a ship. 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.079 That was such a weird scene to me, dude. 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:09.039 Like Ripley is just like caressing the face of this creature, and I'm like, man, what are we doing? 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:10.960 Like, how did we get here? 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:12.400 I'm just looking at Rich. 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:26.480 He's like he's sitting back on his couch, just I saw I all I can see in my head is that scene where she just like dives into all the aliens and is like like she's just like enveloped by them, you know. 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.280 It's just Oh yeah, that was weird, right? 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.000 Like just leave leave me with my weird like when she fell down that thing. 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:35.039 Yes, like what is she? 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:36.480 And then she's just kind of like laying there. 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.159 I'm like, what is happening right now? 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:39.840 Why like why why are we here? 00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.800 How did how much money did it like? 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:51.840 I need to know how much the Gordney Weaver paid because at some point she had to be like, you guys have to be joking me, right? 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.760 Like you're gonna make me do what? 00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:04.000 I I just and then like okay, why does I'm not gonna call it Ripley, why does Riley have have humanity? 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.039 Where did Riley learn this humanity from? 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.119 Is it imprinted in the DNA? 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:14.320 Is that why there's any level of like wanting to help the humans? 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.199 I I don't maybe genetic memory. 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.679 I don't think they use the term in this, but you know, it's just a common sci-fi trope. 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.159 You have it's been brought up in a bunch of different things. 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.599 Recently I watched a Smallville episode where genetic memory is brought up. 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:45.920 Is it a Smallville episode where perhaps in some ways I I'm I know what episode you're talking about, I'm being a jerk, but is it an episode of Smallville where one person starts acting wildly different because they're either inhabited by something or impacted by something in the environment? 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.079 That's most Smallville episodes. 00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:49.360 Like, let's be fair. 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.800 Um you're not narrowing it down much. 00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.599 Yeah, you're talking about the 1950s episode. 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.119 Yes, that technically in 1961, according to one of the fans. 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:00.320 Oh, you're good in the background. 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:01.039 You're good. 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:02.719 I'm I have dude, I have my notes. 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:08.719 Just in case there is ever an option for me to make a small villa timeline, I'm writing notes. 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.000 Oh my goodness. 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:10.639 It's a long shot. 00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:15.280 Dakota is preparing for the episode that we're doing after we finish the Alien series. 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:16.159 Perhaps. 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:17.440 Let's roll it back. 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:20.559 We get a lot of a lot of stuff happens in this movie. 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.320 There's there's alright. 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:29.360 So we have the evolving lineage of Ash from the first movie. 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:38.800 Ash being the robot that Weylon Utani put on board the Nostromo to basically hijack their operation to bring it to the thing. 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.760 Anyway, in the second movie, we are introduced to a future model of a future Cyberdyne model. 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:55.360 No, hype-hyperdyne, Cyberdyne is Terminator, Hyperdyne model named Bishop, who also goes into the third movie a little bit. 00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:02.880 Now in this fourth movie, we have the next maybe not the next generation, but several generations after that. 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:14.159 Instead of calling them robots or synthetics, these are autons who are autonomously built by other synthetic beings. 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:18.239 And Winona Ryder plays an autun. 00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:23.920 And there's there's a scene where she gets shot, the white milk that comes out of the stomach or whatever. 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:24.800 She has that. 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.960 She is synthetic or an auton as as they they describe it. 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:36.719 What are our thoughts on Winona Ryder's character and the evolution of this race of being? 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:37.679 I will say. 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.000 You quickly glossed over the fact. 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:49.840 I'm not sure, faithful listeners, if you remember, the promise that the team would stick together after Aliens when we got to Aliens Cubed. 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:56.400 And these two charlatans were like, Yeah, it's great that the team's gonna be together. 00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:02.880 And this man just recapped it quickly by saying, and yeah, Bishop kind of was in the third movie. 00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:03.599 Alright? 00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:12.320 That's a recall to the time that these men convinced me that this team was sticking together and Newton Bishop were gone within five minutes. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.760 But uh no, you look I I don't I don't have anything. 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:17.280 I think Anthony's our milk expert. 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:18.239 I don't have anything to add to that. 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:20.480 I think Anthony's our milk expert. 00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:24.000 So I I actually want to hear his thoughts before anything. 00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.920 Like, what did you think of Winona Writer's uh milk sitch? 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:28.639 Honestly, yeah. 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:29.519 Out of context. 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.880 Out of context, that's such a strange sentence, by the way. 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.840 You gotta listen to the whole show or you won't get it. 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:37.840 I hope nobody takes this out of context. 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.800 Don't randomly scrub to this moment. 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:49.920 I think honestly, like when you get to these movies, it's kind of fun to figure out which one is going to be the robot, you know? 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:54.480 It's like, okay, which one of these people are going to be the robot in this one, you know? 00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.320 Like, because that that becomes like a re recurring thing that like one of them is not a real person. 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.800 I prefer the term artificial person. 00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:04.239 Data would be very upset with that. 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:18.159 I thought it was interesting that like she had like that whole scene where she had like jack into the like very like matrix-y, like where she had to like jack into the the computer, even though that was what a couple years before the matrix? 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:19.519 Was it ninety-eight, ninety nine? 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.199 Yeah, that was two years before the matrix. 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:31.519 But uh so she has she jacked in and made father do you know, uh like she started messing around with the enemy of the movie. 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:38.880 Oh so there that is a another interesting thing that they you know there's there's a change in this one. 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:47.119 You know, there's still the theme of motherhood that's begun in the first movie, you know, like on the the onboard ship in the first movie was mother. 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:54.159 Then, you know, Ripley kind of takes Newton as her daughter in the second movie. 00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:02.320 In the third movie, there's the scene where like Ripley cradles the chessburser as she like dies in the lake of fire. 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:08.079 And in this one, she is very clearly a mother figure to this abomination. 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.599 But you mentioned that the interface in this one is called father. 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.360 That's kinda interesting. 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.599 I haven't thought about it enough to like really make any like theme at- again. 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:29.199 This movie is really hard to pay attention to, so I really have to I'm gonna eventually get around to it in my timeline lore breakdown and like actually make some sense out of it, hopefully. 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:34.880 But for the time being, I I am curious about that switch from mother to father. 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:45.679 And in that same breath, there's some very clear religious symbology, not very like good religious symbology, but it's there, you know. 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:56.239 Like Ripley comments on the fact that Winona Ryder's character, the Autan, is religious or has faith, which is an interesting concept. 00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:01.920 I don't know what they would have faith in or why, but I'm deeply curious about that. 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.920 I think that that's a fascinating topic. 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:14.800 Do you think that the father bit has anything to do with that religious symbology, or is that just kind of a play on the mother in the first movie? 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.599 I think it's just a playoff of it, really. 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:36.079 I don't take anything that this movie does as deeply entran I okay, obviously this is canon because it's part of the franchise, but I feel like they were a little loosey-goosey here and didn't care what they were doing here and what that might mean for the future. 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:45.840 Yeah, it's a weird this is a weird time for franchise filmmaking where they clearly wanted to continue the story. 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:51.199 They clearly did not have the original team to continue writing those stories. 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.039 Each film had a very different group of creators behind it. 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:06.320 And it's not until like the the the next film in the series where Ridley Scott actually comes back to do something new with the franchise for the first time in who knows how many years. 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:12.639 But uh, like you said, I don't know that there's anything extremely uh intelligent in this one. 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:17.599 You know, there's there's a lot of really good ideas in the first three films. 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:22.239 And I'm sure there's some good ideas in this one too, but they're just hidden behind so much. 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:38.800 But Anthony, it was a good thing that you mentioned Matrix, because I was getting Matrix vibes with and I almost wonder if this kind of inspired the Matrix in certain ways, you know, like there are certain characters that feel like they belong in maybe Matrix 2, you know? 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:50.079 And some of the action choices and camera movements that they played around with definitely felt like they belonged in the Matrix. 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:51.440 So I thought that was interesting. 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:58.159 I like I mean I like Yeah, this one was a th this one was definitely a a tougher movie to get through. 00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:03.760 Now I kind of like remember why I just never care to go back to it. 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.599 When I watched it, I I I really there was maybe very little that I remembered. 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.519 Mo it felt like almost like a fresh viewing. 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.039 It's one of the movies that I've seen the least. 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:17.679 Okay. 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:23.599 Yeah, I've definitely only seen this once before this time, and Rich, you said that you saw it in theaters. 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:31.920 So at this is the one that we have all seen, and it's probably one of the first films in a long time that all three of us have seen at some point. 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.960 Congratulations to us and to you, listeners. 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.519 Guys, is there anything else that we want to talk about in this particular movie? 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.760 I think the most positive thing was that I got to watch both Alien vs. 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:50.800 Predator movies, uh, because uh you guys told me I was allowed to uh to go off because these were not they're not canon. 00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:55.119 And you know, they uh I'll say this to the viewers don't watch Resurrection. 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:56.800 Go watch the uh Alien vs. 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:57.679 Predator movies. 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.719 They're uh they're silly, they're not canon, but uh they're kind of fun. 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:04.719 And yeah, I think you'll enjoy those. 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:17.119 Uh but this one is just if you're going through all of them, this is the one that you put on when you have to do the laundry and fold and maybe leave the room to take the recycling out and then come back. 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.079 Like you you're not i it's okay. 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.440 You're not gonna miss a terrible amount. 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:24.719 I don't know what happens. 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:34.880 Oh, there's there's a really sorry, there's I I just I just remember this and I can't not say it because it's something that I really, really, really deeply wanted to bring up on this podcast. 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:36.239 They get to Earth. 00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:43.760 You know, like this is the first time Ripley's been back to Earth in 250 years, 260 almost. 00:45:44.079 --> 00:46:03.519 And yeah, there's a really bizarre scene where the ship that they were on crashes into Africa and blows up most of the cont or it doesn't blow up the continent, but like there's like a nuclear bomb-level threat that expands and mushrooms out over southern Africa. 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:11.599 And then Ripley looks at Winona Ryder and goes, You did it, you saved Earth. 00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:13.519 And I'm like, what? 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:20.079 All those people, all those people are dead! That's millions, maybe billions, I don't know. 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:29.039 Look, look, they saved Earth from the aliens, but without without a cost, okay? 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:34.320 There was some mysterious cost, and she was so happy that it was it was done. 00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:39.039 Oh my god, I could not believe I replayed that like three times. 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.760 I went online to look up like what happened. 00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.840 I downloaded the movie in 4K so that I could scrub through that scene. 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.000 I was like, what the heck just happened here? 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.079 And I I compared it to maps on the earth. 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:53.280 This is definitely Africa. 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.280 You see Madagascar on the right. 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.760 Dude, incredible. 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.960 I don't understand the choices made in this at all. 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.840 It's like you save the world except for Africa. 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.320 Except for southern Africa. 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.119 Those people are dead. 00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.360 Meanwhile, meanwhile, and aliens, the second one. 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:25.039 Ripley, you know, she's going on and on like to Burke about like how many people have died on this like colony. 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.480 And she keeps saying like 157 people or something like that. 00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:32.079 I think it's 100 151 or 171, whatever. 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.119 It's it's like in the 200s range. 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:39.280 There's no way that did not kill less than 200 people. 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.440 Like that that was a that was Ripley. 00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:46.159 No, that that probably killed like 200,000 people, like probably more. 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.760 At least that's not Ripley who's making that call. 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:50.960 That's Riley, alright? 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:52.559 That's a different being. 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:53.920 Oh, it's okay. 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:55.760 So the resurrected Ripley is actually. 00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:57.199 I see what you're saying. 00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:58.159 Okay, this is new. 00:47:58.400 --> 00:47:58.800 Yeah, Riley. 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.800 Hey, but Riley's like, hey, at least they did it. 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.719 That's the cost of taking care of the aliens. 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:03.760 Look, Dakota. 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.719 At least they saved 200 people. 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:12.239 Oh god. 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:12.719 Okay. 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.199 I did not get around to watching AVP. 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:21.599 Uh, I know Rich, you watched both AVP and AVP Requiem, and I think it had to be watched the you watched both of them? 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:22.239 I watched both. 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:23.840 I think Requiem is the juicy. 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.199 There is a scene in Requiem where literally, I think it was shot for us. 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:41.199 It's just the xenomorph standing over somebody, and the juice, I'm fairly certain, just drips off of the xenomorph into the next victim's mouth. 00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.480 Like that, like do you do you remember, Anthony? 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:48.320 Like it's over a ledge, and it was just like there was so much juice, man. 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:49.199 Yeah, yeah. 00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:50.880 No, that no, it was gross. 00:48:50.960 --> 00:49:00.559 I I will say that there was a in the second one, there was a pretty interesting concept where it was a xenomorph predator hybrid. 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.360 Like I thought that was actually a cool idea. 00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:07.440 So that's one thing that I do really love about this series as a whole. 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.400 And I even will throw in resurrection in this case. 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:14.000 I like the idea that these are not stagnant creatures. 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:21.519 You know, like every film has added something to their lore and makeup or biology that changes what we know of them. 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:21.840 You know? 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:22.159 Right. 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:23.039 Right. 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:23.440 Yeah. 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.760 Second one added the hive, the queen. 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:28.400 The third one added the like the dog. 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:33.039 The fact that they can take on characteristics of their host, like it's different. 00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:33.599 Right. 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:43.840 And this one show and in uh resurrection, it showed that they can take on even more human characteristics. 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:44.559 Right. 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:51.199 There could be more genetic mutations that blend them even closer to humanity. 00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:55.039 You know, I mean, I don't know if you can really call that humanity or living or anything. 00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.119 Suck that thing out of an airlock, am I right? 00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.480 But at least it's possible, and we know that now. 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.320 So that's pretty cool about Requiem. 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:04.079 I saw AVP a lot. 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.480 I liked that movie a lot when it came out. 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:15.039 I did not like Requiem, I only saw it the one time, but I do remember liking that they were able to incorporate, you know, some of the dreadlocks on a xenomorph. 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.000 I thought that was a cool design. 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:17.039 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:24.880 No, I think that that's like because like the it's like a combination of like some like two crazy killing machines. 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:33.840 You know, at least in this world we have an intact Africa, but we do have xenomorphs attacking a small town. 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:42.880 And like essentially like the predators are kind of like anti-heroes, like in these movies. 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:52.559 Because they kind of help the um in the first one the the hero the predator teams up with the girl on the ends and they fight the aliens. 00:50:52.960 --> 00:51:02.800 Whereas like the the in Requiem, the predator in that one is essentially like Batman taking out all all the the xenomorphs. 00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:16.800 I I couldn't the only problem I had was when he's teaming up with the female warrior, whatever, and then he takes the acid from the xenomorph's blood and goes and puts the same kind of marking or scar. 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:23.119 I mean, he literally melts her skin to give her this matching scar, and she just stands there, you know. 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.159 I'm sorry, man. 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:24.800 I don't know. 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:25.760 That that's rough. 00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:27.599 I don't I don't know if I can do that. 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.480 It was it it was essentially a brand. 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:30.960 Yeah. 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:32.400 Like a that's a brand, right there. 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:33.199 With acid. 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.639 Yeah, like yeah, that like like that was an open wound. 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:37.440 I don't know. 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:38.239 That seems dangerous. 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.800 Like I think you need some max tracen, some hydrogen peroxide, something. 00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:44.880 Yeah, no, no, that was crazy. 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.119 But it those movies felt so much so like a product of their time. 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:54.480 Like if they felt like the early 2000s, like the Freddie versus Jason. 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.679 Exactly, though those types of movies. 00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:58.719 Yeah. 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:10.719 Where it's you can't really take it seriously with the franchise as a whole, but in its own little time capsule, it works as just a fun rom. 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:12.079 Right, right. 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:22.639 I mean, and they do kind of work well as two sides of the same coin because they pretty much came out around the same time, you know. 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:32.480 You had Predator that came out in the eighties, and then a lot of the aliens that came out in the eighties, very similar like kind of action movies, you know. 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:43.679 So for what I've gathered, and I guess we can like kind of like table our discussion of resurrection a little bit, you know, as we continue talking about Alien and Predator as a you know collected franchise. 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:51.360 The first crossover potentiality with the alien universe came in one of the Predator movies. 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:56.960 I think it was the second one, where one of the Predator's trophies was a xenomorph head. 00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.599 And I think that's where this whole thing stemmed from. 00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.400 Like fans are just like, oh, I want to see that, you know. 00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.519 And I think that's what brought Alien vs. 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.599 Predator together originally. 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:20.000 Now it seems like they are actively trying to do something similar again with the Predator and Alien movies. 00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:22.960 So I don't know if you've seen the trailer. 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:35.360 Like, I don't remember if anything's come out recently, but I remember seeing one back in like 2018. 00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:38.639 There was a recent one, I think last year or the year before was the first one. 00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:39.440 Prey Prey. 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:40.639 Prey, yeah, you're right. 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:41.519 That did really well. 00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:41.760 Yeah. 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:46.960 Um people it was like a straight to streaming one, but everyone was blown away by it. 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:47.440 Yeah. 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.039 But anyway, so so yeah, they both stay, they've been saying relevant. 00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:55.280 I feel like in the right hands, we could actually get a good Alien vs. 00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:56.719 Predator movie. 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:03.360 Have you seen the trailer for the new Predator move Predator movie that's coming out, Badlands? 00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:03.920 No. 00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:05.280 Oh, wait. 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.920 That has somebody like I feel like I I have. 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:11.039 Yes. 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:17.360 So I remember being in the theater because I didn't even know this movie existed, and I was like, wait, what? 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:31.840 So, like, in the Predator Badlands trailer, the Predator is on some world, and it's trying to survive alongside a basically a synthetic. 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:40.559 And we know that it's connected to the Alien franchise because you see the Weyland Utani logo in her eyeball, like before she like boots up. 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:44.239 So it's like a very clear connection. 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.880 And it's El Fanning playing playing the the Android in this one. 00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:49.760 It looks really good. 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.400 So I'm excited to see what they cook up with that. 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:53.199 Yeah, man. 00:54:53.519 --> 00:55:01.840 So the director the director said there's no xenomorphs or anything in that, but that crossover potential is open, which is pretty cool. 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:03.440 We we're building up to it, man. 00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.639 They're like, you know, building up to their endgame. 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:13.199 Like Rich and I, like, you know, we're saying it was that there was uh some really good ideas in those movies in Alien vs. 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:14.079 Predator. 00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:20.880 Like they for me, I would say like largely like they're not the worst movies that you're ever gonna see. 00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:27.679 But I I feel like there is a potential that you could make a really, really good Alien versus Predator. 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:31.360 I mean, the action was actually pretty solid in those movies. 00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.280 I liked seeing predators throwing down on xenomorphs. 00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:55.280 I mean, like one side not being overpowered, like the aliens have their tails, their claws, the blood, and then all the tools and weapons and fighting sense that the predators have, you know, because they're sentient, they think more like a human than like a xenomorph would. 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:57.519 But xenomorphs are not dumb, though. 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.159 Which show did you guys like? 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.639 Or sorry, which team were you guys rooting for? 00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:04.079 Xenomorph or Predator? 00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:04.400 Oh. 00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:06.480 It's always gonna be predator for me. 00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:23.199 I just uh I mean I I think partly also because of what Anthony just said, you know, they're more sentient beings, you know, they seem more they see they're more human than the xenomorphs are, where the xenomorphs are more like you know, a bug-like menace that you want to get rid of. 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:27.280 Where the predators are just uh they're like they hunt for sport. 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:28.000 Yeah, honestly. 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:28.719 They're just aliens. 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:30.480 Yeah, predators hunt for sport. 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:31.760 They're like craven the hunter. 00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:33.519 They're just on rumspring, huh? 00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.960 You know, like trying to like prove themselves into their manhood. 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:37.840 Uh, you know what? 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:38.639 I get it. 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.800 They have to like their survival means that they are like a proven warrior, you know. 00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:58.000 Which is pretty crazy because it's like if that's the threshold for you to become a warrior, then like that goes to show you like how insane like facing a xenomorph is, even for a predator. 00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:04.639 I mean, only one like actually not even, like, none of them survived from the first one. 00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:05.840 No, that's right. 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:11.599 Yeah, no, they ended up uh that whole uh we won't spoil it completely, but yeah, no, it was pretty crazy. 00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:15.519 Were there other movies like Alien vs Predator or Freddie vs. 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:17.360 Jason in that time period? 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:18.719 I'm trying to remember. 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:22.480 I know we have stuff like you know, like there's older stuff like Dracula vs. 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.440 Frankenstein and King Kong versus Kraken. 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:36.239 I mean that was uh the Lycanthrobes versus I mean, what is that the same time that Underworld was out, or am I off base on the Yeah, I think Underworld No, yeah, yeah. 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.880 That was that yes, that's exact yes. 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:47.519 Although I didn't feel like uh Underworld gave off the same sort of camp that those types of movies came out. 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:48.559 Those are serious, yeah. 00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:59.760 That was a period of time where you know, you got those just kind of odd horror type movies, like I mean, you had Jeepers Creepers coming out at that time. 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:09.360 Um, you know, just really weird movies that like you know, just kind of slasher movies that would come out at that time. 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:21.039 And yeah, like if you go back and you see those, like they very much feel they're not timeless, they feel exactly like a 2000s movie, just like Alien vs. 00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:21.760 Predator. 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.679 Like you know that it came out at this time. 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:24.719 So Alien vs. 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.119 Predator, it even like Freddie vs. 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:28.880 Jason or King Kong vs. 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.239 Godzilla, it feels like that show Deadliest Warrior. 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:48.159 I don't know if you remember it, where they would pit two warriors from like different time periods and different, you know, like cultures against each other, and they would use all of their strengths and weaknesses against each other to pit them to like the you know, like what would actually happen. 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:58.880 And I think that that's the strength of specifically alien versus predator, like you guys were mentioning, they use all of you know their pros and cons against each other. 00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:00.880 So I thought that was cool. 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:01.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:10.639 Definitely like the xenomorphs, they were using their tails, their claws, the little, you know, mini mouth thing that they had. 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:18.800 The predators were yeah, they're using their cloaks, their like all their weapons, man, like the shoulder cannons that they had. 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:31.519 Yeah, man, it yeah, like I said, I think that there was a lot of like cool ideas from those movies that you know it would be cool, maybe can be pulled in for the future, you know? 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.320 Like the ideas, not the execution. 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:34.719 Sure. 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.159 Although the execution wasn't the worst, you know. 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.400 Yes, I think uh the execution of Resurrection was probably the worst. 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:43.599 No, it definitely was. 00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.079 Yeah, that that's definitely the worst film in the series. 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:48.159 So, Rich, everything's up from here. 00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:49.519 Well, I'm glad to hear it. 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.199 So, what what is on tap for next? 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.840 I don't even know the name of the next movie. 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:59.920 Well, at least Ripley this won't be the worst movie that Ripley will be in in the future. 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:02.400 Riley's believe it or not. 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:08.559 Yeah, so at least she's back, you know, in the picture. 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:09.840 I don't know. 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:11.840 I don't know. 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:12.559 What's the name? 01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:14.800 What's the what's the name of the next one? 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.960 Is it called Alien No Ripley? 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:18.960 No, no, no, no. 01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:19.679 It's not. 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:21.920 It's it's Alien continuation. 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:23.039 Continuation. 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:24.239 No, it's come on. 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.840 Terrible name for a movie. 01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:36.079 The next next movie that we're going to be covering, guys, is Prometheus. 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:40.079 It's the only alien film that does not have Alien in the title. 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.320 And there's probably a good reason for that. 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.840 But uh we will discuss that next week. 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:49.199 And and yeah, uh, last thoughts on Alien Resurrection. 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.519 I will send it over to you, Anthony. 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.840 Yeah, this was not the best alien movie. 01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:04.400 I mean, there was maybe some cool ideas that were overshadowed by like a bunch of like what the heck is going on. 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:05.920 But yeah, no. 01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:15.360 Um, you know, like Dakota said, if you listen to this without watching Resurrection, we actually saved you time. 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.519 You know, we saved you the time. 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.400 Don't you don't have to worry about watching it unless you're curious uh of how bad it was. 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:23.840 Rich, go ahead. 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:38.079 I mean, like I said, put it on while you're doing the laundry or your grading school work, and your students' work is so terrible that when you look up at the screen, you go, hey, this is better than that. 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:38.559 Alright? 01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:39.920 That's that's what you can do here. 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:40.480 Alright. 01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:44.400 I mean, but it's the homework was better than the movie. 01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:45.280 Yes, exactly. 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.800 You know, then you go, okay, you know what, maybe this kid's work isn't so bad. 01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:50.320 I'll give them an 85. 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:55.760 That that's basically it's yeah, if you haven't gone out of your way to watch it, don't. 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.360 If you're a completionist like I am, go ahead and do it. 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:06.719 But you don't uh don't rack your brain trying to make heads or tails of too much, just kind of have a little bit of fun. 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:15.760 It's definitely a film that kind of encapsulates the grunge coming to its peak in the 90s. 01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:17.199 It's very edgy. 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:26.800 There's a lot of characters that you're purposely not supposed to like and who make a lot of, you know, off-colored comments that you wouldn't see in movies these days. 01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.320 And honestly, there there are some interesting scenes. 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:47.679 Like, I, you know, thinking back on the movie now, I do like the scene where they have three xenomorphs in like a prison cell to be studied, and they kind of get smart like raptors in Jurassic Park, and they decide, you know what, you have acid blood. 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:52.400 Why don't we like two of them like kill the one in the middle so that the others can escape? 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:53.119 Genius. 01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:58.559 That's actually a really cool use of intellect and showing the survivability of this species. 01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:02.800 You know, they understand that if we sacrifice one, two more can live. 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:18.079 But with good scenes like that, you have other scenes, like you know, there's the scene that Wormtongue, the character who plays Wormtongue in Lord of the Rings, decides to make out with a xenomorph on the other side of a glass pane, and it's a really bizarre scene. 01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:20.320 I I'm I'm I got a little confused. 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:23.599 But anyway, I would say it's in my top five MCU movies. 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.480 I recommend it, but yeah, that's all I can say. 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.199 Is it above or below Quantum Mania? 01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.480 It's just above Quantumania for me. 01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:43.760 That's a yeah, yeah, Quantumania, uh Incredible Hulk, and maybe like Iron Man 2 are up there in my top five alongside Alien Resurrection. 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:48.000 And yeah, that's that's uh that's a wrap, boys. 01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:53.599 We've covered the original quadrilogy of alien movies, and we're gonna cover the prequels next. 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:58.239 Guys, thank you so much for listening to us here for our 134th episode. 01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:05.920 If you want to check out any of our socials, be sure to click down into our so show notes, and you can find out more about what we're we're doing. 01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:12.480 Follow us on Instagram, follow us on Twitter, and again be sure to give us a juicy five star review. 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.440 Thanks, guys. 01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:14.320 Have a good one. 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:15.119 Bye y'all. 01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:16.960 I'm still collating.