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Highly Sensitive Humans Podcast
The Value of Transpersonal Coaching & Open Awareness for Highly Sensitive People
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In this episode, I speak with Jevon Dangeli - Transpersonal Coach and Hypnotherapy Practitioner who combines the holistic aspects of NLP with mindfulness and Transpersonal Psychology. It is Jevon's training and courses which led me to become certified as a Transpersonal Coach. His work has been a huge inspiration to me over the years and I integrate many of his techniques into the coaching and workshops I now offer for Highly Sensitive People.
We speak about the benefits of applied open awareness and the practice of Jumi, which are techniques to help people move from 'tunnel awareness' to the more receptive and resourceful state of 'open awareness'. These tools are an invaluable resource for highly sensitive people dealing with anxiety and the stress of other overwhelming emotions.
During the episode, Jevon shares a short practice of OA with us so we can experience the effects of this powerful practice directly!
About Jevon...
Jevon Dangeli has a Master’s degree in Transpersonal Psychology. He is also is a certified NLP Trainer, Transpersonal Coach and Hypnotherapy Practitioner who has provided training in these areas since 2004. He has written 9 training manuals and recorded over 30 audio-programmes, as well as a comprehensive video series where he teaches psychological methods for personal and professional development. He is the creator of the Authentic Self-Empowerment approach that combines the holistic aspects of NLP with mindfulness and transpersonal psychology. He has been developing the Jumi (judo mind) practice since 2001. Jumi is a way to help people of all ages to establish open awareness and core strength while regulating emotions and energy flow.
Resources Mentioned...
Visit Jevon's Website and The Open Awareness Resource Hub for free resources, training, and more on Open Awareness/Jumi.
Book mentioned: 'Aware' by Daniel Siegel.
More about your host, Jules De Vitto...
Jules De Vitto is an ASE Advanced Facilitator & Transpersonal Coach who is experienced at helping Highly Sensitive People overcome anxiety, stress and burnout.
Jules is Highly Sensitive herself and is also passionate about helping Highly Sensitive People to step into their authentic power and align with their true purpose in life. She lived in Asia for eleven years before moving to London and integrates Eastern practices and modern-day mindfulness into her work.
She has a degree in Psychology, an MA in Education and an MSc in Transpersonal Psychology, Consciousness and Spirituality. She’s a Meditation teacher on Insight Timer and a published author through Changemaker Books and John Hunt Publishers. She wrote Resilience: Navigating Loss in a Time of Crisis to help people through the Covid-19 Pandemic available here.
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About the Host: Jules De Vitto is a transpersonal coach, trainer and experienced educator for Highly Sensitive People. She helps those who identify with the traits of high sensitivity to navigate emotional overwhelm, step into their authentic power and align with their true purpose in life. She is a published author and wrote one of a series of books on Resilience, Navigating Loss in a time of Crisis. Her research has also been published in the Transpersonal Coaching Psychology Journal and Journal of Consciousness, Spirituality, and Transpersonal Psychology.
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So welcome everyone, and I'm really excited today to be talking with Javon, who is one of my teachers, mentors, and inspirations over the years. So it is Javon's trainings that have enabled me to become a transpersonal coach and offer the work that I do today. So Javon has a master's degree in transpersonal psychology, the same as myself, and he is also certified as an NLP trainer, transpersonal coach, and hypnotherapy practitioner. And he's been providing training in these areas since 2004. He's written nine training manuals and recorded over 30 audio programs, as well as a comprehensive video series where he teaches psychological methods for personal and professional development. He is the creator of the authentic self-empowerment approach, which is something I'm also trained in, and he combines the holistic aspects of NLP with mindfulness and transpersonal psychology. And he's been developing the JUMI, which is judo mind practice since 2001. So JUMI is a way to help people of all ages to establish open awareness and core strength while regulating emotions and energy flow. So we're going to be talking more about open awareness, transpersonal coaching, transpersonal psychology, and exploring how these approaches can be really helpful to highly sensitive people. So welcome, Javan, and thank you so much for being on the podcast today.
SPEAKER_00Thanks, Jules. It's good to be here with you.
SPEAKER_01So as you know, this podcast is about highly sensitive people. So the first thing I want to ask you is do you consider yourself to be highly sensitive? And if so, what would you say your story is in relation to being highly sensitive, or in which areas of your life do these traits tend to show up for you?
SPEAKER_00Okay. Well, it would be a long story, so I'll keep it short. But yes, I do consider myself to be a highly sensitive person in some respects. I've been in an empath all my life, sensing the states that other people experience for as long as I can remember. And I've always felt compassion toward those who suffer and the need to help them in whatever way I can. I've done that since I was a child. It was in my school reports already. So this is why I took an interest in adulthood to study psychology, healing modalities, engaging in contemplative practices and spending a lot of time in nature. And it's taken me around the world to explore people and places and to really tune into what I might consider to be the deeper side of life or human experience, and to to understand myself, to understand others, to understand how life works in this great scheme of things. It's been an exciting adventure so far.
SPEAKER_01Brilliant. Thank you for sharing. And I'm wondering how this also relates to the work that you do. So we've both studied our masters in transpersonal psychology, consciousness and spirituality at Aleph Trust. And I know that you now teach the postgraduate course in transpersonal coaching psychology. And I've also attended your in-person trainings in authentic self-empowerment in London. I think it was back in 2018. And this is where you teach the ASE techniques and open awareness. And this is also how I came to work as a transpersonal coach. So could you share a bit more about the work that you do?
SPEAKER_00With pleasure. So, although it goes by many definitions, and many have struggled to define this because it really is the exploration of the ineffable, that which cannot be described in words, which simply put could be considered spiritual phenomena. And in transpersonal psychology, we're exploring the outer reaches of what psychology itself has explored over the decades, to look at where does psychology and spirituality intersect, as you well know. And in transpersonal coaching, we use that intersection of broad perspectives explored through a psychological lens to support clients' transformation, growth, and development. And we will employ transpersonal methods to help them establish expansive states of consciousness. And then in those expanded states, seek out the resources from these broader perspectives that might not ordinarily occur to them in their regular states of consciousness. We'll then draw resources into conscious awareness and then through the coaching conversation establish ways for the client to integrate those insights and ideas into the relevant areas of their life. So that's a quick introduction to transpersonal coaching. Authentic self-empowerment ASE is something I've been developing over the past, well, nearly 20 years. And it is a combination of transpersonal coaching with applied open awareness and mindfulness, as well as the holistic aspects of NLP Neurolinguistic Programming. I have found that these three modalities can sit really well together and form one working model that extends beyond the realm of coaching or even transpersonal coaching to support clients when their issues maybe stem from traumatic memories in the past, through to a variety of issues that clients might bring to coaching or to therapy. And as ASE facilitators, we can hold space for most things that trouble people and support them through the ASE methods, similar to what I described before. And lastly, with that is open awareness, which is what I'd like to perhaps explain a bit further on if there's an opportunity in the interview today. Applied open awareness is right at the core of our ASE method and our transpersonal coaching approach. It's the very means through which coaches or facilitators hold the liminal space or transformative space in which the client can explore things in that state of liminality between where they are and where they want to be, in that portal of open opportunities and open frames of reference in which the client can explore what is present and what is possible and how to take from that awareness whatever is relevant and meaningful and apply it in life.
SPEAKER_01Thank you so much for that fantastic answer. And I'm really curious in terms of the open awareness or the expanded states of consciousness you spoke about. How do you feel these the practice of open awareness in particular can be of benefit or might help, let's say, highly sensitive people or the listeners?
SPEAKER_00Well, applied open awareness helps people to be more aware of the interrelatedness between their inner experience and what's going on in the world around them. This promotes a self-understanding and self-compassion as well as an enhanced awareness of our interconnectedness with everything in life. And this in turn can enable us to respond to situations more mindfully and resourcefully. So, with regard to highly sensitive people, what I have found is that the state of open awareness helps us to be more consciously aware of the factors or triggers that we become, let's say, affected by as sensitive people. And with that heightened awareness, we're more able to respond the way we would like to respond in a balanced way to these situations. As opposed to open awareness, we can refer to tunnel awareness when one's mode of perception is narrowly fixated on the trigger, on the person, on the situation that has evoked some emotion within us, an intense feeling, perhaps, maybe even leading to some degree of overwhelm. And in tunnel awareness, we're very limited in terms of how we can respond. Usually we respond in a kind of knee-jerk reaction way. And that's because our frame of reference is contrived, it's kind of shrunken. We're in that tunnel. And when we recognize that and know about the open awareness skills, we can then open the aperture of awareness, go beyond that tunnel, and find within that broader spectrum of consciousness, new fresh perspectives that we can draw from and then more consciously engage with those people or situations and achieve more fulfilling results.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, brilliant. And I know that that is something which highly sensitive people struggle with the most. So that sense of overwhelm or getting caught in their emotions or becoming often consumed by these really, really strong emotions. So I think this idea of being able to gain perspective and approach that emotional experience from a more expanded state. So I also understand that as going beyond the ego, not being completely consumed by the ego identity, but coming from a place that is beyond that. Would you say that is the case?
SPEAKER_00Yes, definitely. You know, I think there are different types of sensitivity that people might experience, and perhaps listeners might experience their sensitive moments or states differently to others. And some might be sensitive in certain contexts or situations and less sensitive in others, whilst others of us will be sensitive in these situations, which other people are not. So I think it it's important to identify the contexts in which we are most sensitive, and then to consider which resource states or modes of perception can be of most use to us. And in in my research over the years, I have found that in each situation, when we, regardless of the type of sensitivity we might be experiencing, when we are triggered emotionally and we might tend to feel overwhelmed or anxious or react negatively, every single time that occurs, we're in tunnel awareness. This is what I've been exploring over the years. And all of my clients, when we identify what has triggered them, that object, person, or situation is what their attention is narrowly fixated on. And as a consequence of that, they react negatively. Then when they learn how to apply open awareness in that situation, they find a new range of positive resources and ideas and perceptions become available to them, and with that they respond completely differently. Sensitivity is then sort of both a blessing and a curse, you could say, because it's wonderful to be able to be receptive in situations and to respond accordingly. But sensitivity sometimes is not such a wonderful resource state, because we, if it's out of balance when we're in the tunnel, then we we have a more negative reaction in those situations. I hope that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, definitely. That does make sense, and I think that's why what you're sharing, this idea of entering into that state of open awareness, is so valuable because a lot of the work that I share is trying to educate highly sensitive people in terms of being able to access their gifts, gifts, and their authenticity. So it's as you said, it's about you know holding space for that sensitivity without becoming consumed by those overwhelming emotions. So I think the technique of open awareness will be really, really valuable to those people who are highly sensitive.
SPEAKER_00Yes, indeed. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Could you share a bit more about what inspires you or drives you to do the work that you do? So you already mentioned that you feel obviously really passionate about this work. So, what inspires you to do this work?
SPEAKER_00Well, this work is my vocation. I love seeing the lights coming in others when they experience transformation and healing and growth. But I guess more importantly, it's it's when clients and students start to have a positive impact in the world around them through the insights that they've gained by going through this process or experiencing open awareness, for example. Then the broader benefits of this work become noticeable. And I can't think of more rewarding work than that. Um, yeah, you know, just to pick up on one other thing you said before, uh, it's about holding space for the experience that you're having. And I know in our line of work the idea or concept of holding space is quite a common one, yet most practitioners think about it and apply holding space quite differently. And for me and what I teach is that holding space is not some abstract concept, it's a very simple skill that can be learned and transferred. Holding space for oneself or others is nothing but applied open awareness, having that broader experience of self and others in a shared space, applying the skill which I'm very happy to give a little example of if there's an opportunity today, and then to kind of cultivate a sense of self-expansiveness in which you are aware of your body, you're aware of mental content, emotional feelings, you're aware of the other person and the space that connects you to the others. And just expanding awareness into these different dimensions of experience promotes that holding. And in that kind of holding, we're not judging our experience, we're not judging ourselves, we're not judging others. There's no space for that judgment, there's just this awareness and this allowing of what is present to unfold. And although that just seems like quite a mundane thing to do, I guess, um, the outcome of it is that we we find new ways of approaching situations that don't ordinarily occur to us. And and it tends to be a very resourceful response rather than a knee-jerk reaction. Um, so when we can be that quality of presence for ourselves and for others, then we're using our sensitivity wisely, I think. We're being sensitive to all aspects of experience and turning that into a resourceful response.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely, yeah, and it does sound very simple in a way, but extremely powerful in what you're describing. So, would you be able to give us an example? You mentioned possibly having an example or giving us a taste of what that would be like.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, with pleasure. And um, you know, there are so many ways. I've I've written two editions of the Open Awareness Handbook, and it's a free download that I'd love to make available to your listeners. And in that book, I share many skills and techniques, and there are a big variety of them, including one particular set of techniques or approaches to establishing open awareness, which I refer to as JUMI, and JUMI is the judo mind practice that I've been developing since 2001. And in Jumi, there are most probably the most simple of all of these exercises that help to anchor open awareness in those situations where one might experience unresourceful states like anxiety, stress, or overwhelm. And while some of the Jumi exercises involve quite elaborate movement sequences that resemble a combination of yoga and qigong, there are also some very simple ones that are just conscious breathing exercises. So I'd like to share with you one of these simple conscious breathing exercises from our Jumi skill set. Because I think it's versatile and it's adaptable to any kind of situation. It helps one to be present and at the same time receptive to what's present in the space around us and in our life as a whole, and just to bring all of that awareness back into consciousness and then to decide what to do in that moment with that awareness that's available to us. So, how about a little um short breathing exercise to establish that?
SPEAKER_01Fantastic.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so here's the way in which I'm I might share this with somebody who's never come across this before. I'd say let's start to breathe by inhaling through the nose and allowing soft, gentle exhalations out from the mouth. So we can go ahead now and allow in breaths through the nose, and then slow, soft, and steady exhalations out from the mouth. Just a few of those breaths, and then you can start to become aware of the entire volume of space that your body fills, inhaling through the nose out from the mouth, and shifting awareness into the volume of space that your body fills. You're starting to become aware of your body as a whole, this body that is breathing in and out, sensing your whole physical self from head to toe, left to right, back to front. And as we continue breathing in this way, sensing the body, we can now expand that volume of space beyond the body. And you can continue breathing in this way, and as you exhale out, let the awareness buffer out and become aware of the entire room in which you are. Become aware of the entire space around where you are at this moment. In which your body is, and allow your awareness to extend out in all directions to become aware of the entire room where you are. Really scanning as such, more gently exhaling awareness out of these outright. And sending awareness into all the corners of the room. Sensing the whole space in which you are and filling the space with your presence. Whilst sensing those inhalations through the nose and exhalations from the mouth. And we're taking this just one step further. Allow your awareness to go beyond the room or space where you are. Continue sensing the breath, but allow awareness to go all the way out. Start to let awareness extend into all conceivable directions. And that includes across time, into your past, into your future, above you, below you, behind you, in front of you, to your left and to your right. Just kind of buffer out awareness with those outrights. Across time and space. Kind of allowing awareness to zoom out into the cosmos so you can look upon the entire space of your life. Beyond the space of this room, now into the entire frame of your life. And that might be a particular experience or just a soft one. One more hour breath for that broader experience of self in which this life unfolds. Coming back to the sensation of the breath now and pulling awareness with your next breath back into the room where you are, sensing the space around you. And then with your next inhalation, pulling awareness back into the body, sensing the volume of space that your body occupies. And pull with that any ideas that you want to bring out of this process into the foreground of awareness so that they're clear and can be expressed or noted in whichever way is meaningful to you. One last breath in for the nose, out from the mouth. Allow your eyes to be open if they had closed at some stage, so that you can look forward and feel ready for whatever the next moment of life has in store for you. And there you are. That's a quick breathing and imaginal exercise from our Jumi skill set. So, how did you find that, Jules?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, thank you so much for sharing that short practice. And obviously, that's not the first time I have experienced it. Um, it's also what I share now in at the start of my workshop so when I um do my one-to-one coaching as well. And I will say from my personal experience, I definitely feel that greater sense of perspective and connection and interdependence. Those are the words that come to me in terms of how I experience entering open awareness. And I'm curious as well, something I want to ask you, because I think some people might have the idea that open awareness is obviously it's about going beyond the body, and it's about going beyond, like I said earlier, the ego or the mind or the self. But you mentioned the word anchor in terms of the Jumi. And in the work I share, I often talk about this sense of being grounded and being very embodied as well. And obviously, during that exercise, the first thing you asked people to do was to um sense the space that your whole body occupies. So I was wondering, could you just clarify this idea in terms of how much this is an embodied practice as well as going beyond the body, if that makes sense?
SPEAKER_00Yes, it does make sense to me. It's a great question. So, you know, if if you were to go to the Jume website, Jumey. There are numerous free training videos in which I demonstrate these sequences of movements. It's very much an embodied practice. You're engaging the body in these transformative movements with the breath. So the body and the breath are the center point of the practice. We can, as we did in the short practice, transcend the personal experience of self into something that's more transpersonal, that's that more cosmological perspective, looking upon your life as a whole and the interrelatedness of phenomena. And then we bring that back down to anchor those perspectives in the body. And I feel that that is so important because unless we can establish embodied open awareness, then it remains conceptual and abstract and therefore less available to us to apply in our lives. And that's the reason why, and this is really what drove me to establish these practices a lot. Having spent a lot of time in meditation retreats and at retreat centers, I met many people who would be considered spiritual or to have spiritual interests. And many of them had meditated for many years, but experienced a lot of personal problems in their own lives. It was as if the meditation retreat was the place they needed to go to kind of find themselves again, and they struggled to integrate the insights gained through meditation in their own lives. And it has occurred to me over the years that we've got to find a way to embody or anchor these insights and then to draw from them whatever's meaningful and relevant so it can be applied in the different areas of life. And if we look at the kinds of turmoil and crises we're facing in the world today, we need embody practices more than ever. Otherwise, they remain out there and we can only access them while we're meditating. Um, and they have little use in our own lives or in the world. So if we're going to be conscious co-creators of a better present and future, we've got to have an embodiment practice to anchor in these perspectives and resources. Does that answer your question?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. And I really love that answer. And the word that came to mind for me was uh spiritual bypassing, the idea of many people. And I've been there myself in terms of, as you mentioned, going on meditation retreats, having these really blissful experiences, or the transpersonal experience, and then not knowing how to integrate that into my day-to-day life. So, again, that's why I love this practice so much as well, because it is so embodied, and as you said, it is so important that we're able to take those insights and that perspective and and live it, like live it on a daily basis. It's not just about having that experience for five minutes or 10 minutes and then that's it, but it's about um living it and integrating it into our lives on a daily basis.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So, with that being said, because we are talking about the transpersonal and about the spiritual, do you think there's a connection or there might be a connection between highly sensitive people and an interest in spirituality? Because I have noticed that a lot of sensitive people do seem to be drawn towards spiritual practices or, let's say, the transpersonal domain.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I think that is most likely the case. I think there are many people who might classify themselves as highly sensitive people and who are more receptive and interested in spiritual experiences and the spiritual dimension of life. There's certainly a capacity for a heightened receptivity to transportal phenomena about among the highly sensitive people, I think. However, I think there are also highly sensitive people who have not yet developed the receptivity to these subtle types of experiences. And their sensitivity might be more emotional or occur unconsciously, and often it results then in negative reactions, including undesirable behaviors and consequences regarding health. And uh a number of my clients have been sensitive people who are not yet able to utilize their sensitivity to become more receptive of these subtle phenomena. Yet the potential for it is there. If they're emotionally sensitive, they're easily triggered by people in situations, that sensitivity is there. It just needs to be utilized in a way that, well, once again, I have found the open awareness practice to be really useful for.
SPEAKER_01Brilliant.
SPEAKER_00Does that resume?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it does. And as you were talking, another question popped up for me because I also know that there's a lot of sensitive people and empaths who feel very in tune with other people's energies or the energies of their environment. And there can be a fear of being overwhelmed by those energies? Um, so let's say, for example, because I'm also a Reiki practitioner, um, when I'm working with or teaching other people to become Reiki practitioners as well, I often get the question of, oh, how do I, you know, learn to protect myself from these energies? And I was wondering, do you think that this state of open awareness leaves people vulnerable to being even more sensitive to those energies, or would you say it's the opposite?
SPEAKER_00Well, thanks for that question. I've been asked this question.
SPEAKER_01I imagine, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I too am a Reiki practitioner and have studied various energy healing modalities. And so, in my experience, it's the opposite. So, open awareness does not make you more vulnerable, it does not make you a sponge or a magnet to other people's energies that do not belong to you or which you do not want to be experiencing. On the contrary, it helps you to identify what is yours and what is theirs, what you want to process through your direct experience and ground, or what you want to leave away, because you're more receptive in the periphery of awareness. So whilst we sense a deeper interconnectedness and interdependence with others through being in open awareness, we're also more discerning, more able to maneuver energies and cultivate energies and ground energies in this way, but also to set safe and appropriate boundaries. I think many people nervously set inappropriate boundaries. They kind of cut themselves off and thereby become less receptive to energies, they become less open to guidance, they kind of chop off their own intuition sometimes, clumsily, through inappropriate boundary setting. And open awareness enables you to have that quality of awareness that informs you about where and how to set these appropriate ecological, safe boundaries that are beneficial but in no way impairing to a healing process.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, brilliant. That's that's really helpful, and I think the idea of having discernment is so important so we're able to discern and choose how we set our boundaries in a healthy way. Yeah. So do you have a favorite book or quote you'd like to share for the listeners today? And that could be about what we've been speaking about transpersonal coaching, open awareness, or something completely different.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, well, I I do. Um I'm going to offer the open awareness handbook to your listeners because I think it is it covers everything we've been discussing today and shares the practical skills. And I think that's what we need. We need practical skills we can use in our lives and in the world today. Things that are not necessarily quick fixes. I don't think any quick fix or anything that tries to be a quick fix is a good one, but nonetheless, simple skills that we can use on the fly that are versatile in different situations and so on. And although I've been inspired by many other authors and teachers that have led to the development of open awareness over the years, there aren't any other publications that I'm aware of that are exclusively about applied open awareness. Um, one that talks about open awareness quite extensively is Daniel Siegel, the psychiatrist's book called Aware, The Science and Practice of Presence. That's a 2018 publication, great book. And the open awareness handbook, which I'm offering the link to, is directly about open awareness in the applied domain, so how you can use it in your life and to hold space for others. So if you visit my website, javon dangley.com, you'll find the open awareness handbook is one of the hundreds of free resources that I make available on that site, including articles, podcasts, training videos. So you'll find it there in the free resources section of the site.
SPEAKER_01Fantastic. And I will put the link to the handbook and the resources you've mentioned in the show notes so people can access those really easily. So is there anything else you'd like to share about the topic today? Because we're coming close to the end of the interview now.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, I think lastly, then sensitivity is a gift, the way I see it. The world can use more of it. Some of the most pervasive and heroic issues we're seeing in the world today, including the current crisis, as well as other health and safety and environmental issues and social problems, are largely the result of an insufficient amount of sensitivity. We need to be more sensitive to our own needs and to the needs of others and to the needs of our environment. Sensitivity is a gift to be used by people who have it, and it's also a valuable quality to do to be developed by those that don't yet have it, I would say. And I would love to see our political leaders being more sensitive. So, wouldn't we all? Um, I think a world with more sensitivity in the ways in which we've been talking about it here today would would ease things up and would definitely be part of the solution that we'd all like to see. So I think it's important that we're not just talking about some elusive thing that we might you know consider when we have time one day. I think we're talking about an essential quality that uh we can all identify within ourselves and develop more fully.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I definitely agree with that, and I think that's a great place to end because um, yeah, it's such a good reminder, and I think for highly sensitive people to know that they are able to step forward and be the leaders, the leaders of today in the future, because actually, highly sensitive people are natural leaders, and it's really about them learning to step into their power and know that they are capable of doing that and making the change in the world. So, thank you for sharing that point. And I think you've already mentioned, but is there any specific website or place that the listeners can go to? You mentioned your website. Can you just share that again with us?
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's it's my full first and surname, javondanially.com, j e v o n d A N G E L I dot com. And that website is referred to as the Open Awareness Hub. If you land on that homepage, you'll see that it's the Open Awareness Hub and it's dedicated to sharing these open awareness resources. You can find the link to the handbook there. You can subscribe for my monthly open awareness tips. And um, you can also gain access to the list of licensed open awareness facilitators and the services that they provide. So if you're seeking help from an open awareness professional, either as an ASE facilitator, transpersonal approach, or somebody who's just trained in open awareness, we've got them all listed there. So uh one-to-one help is is also available in this way.
SPEAKER_01Fantastic. Thank you so much for being on the podcast today. It's been a pleasure talking.
SPEAKER_00Jules, an absolute pleasure to talk about this important topic with you. Thank you for the opportunity.
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