Veronica and Erika finally get to the part of the story where God dwells with His people. They approach the chapters on the Tabernacle differently and show the lessons we learn from the specific details given.
Questions to Consider:
What was the first thing God gave Moses instructions on building versus what the people built first?
What event came between instructions given and the actual construction?
What lessons did Erika and Veronica give that we learn from the Tabernacle?
What lessons did you come up with that we learn from the Tabernacle?
You can join us on our Facebook page called "The Context and Color of the Bible" as well as Erika's website erikavanhaitsma.com.
In order to prepare for this study we used the following books or articles:
Exploring Exodus by Nahum Saran
Exodus: God, Slavery, and Freedom by Dennis Prager
The JPS Commentary on Exodus by The Jewish Publication Society
Messiah - Issue 24
Exodus: Brazos Theological Commentary on the Bible by Thomas Joseph White, OP
Exodus: A Mentor Commentary by John L. Mackay
Shadows of the Messiah by First Fruits of Zion, book 2
Miqra Journal - Winter 2003
Music: Tabuk by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4453-tabukLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Veronica and Erika finally get to the part of the story where God dwells with His people. They approach the chapters on the Tabernacle differently and show the lessons we learn from the specific details given.
Questions to Consider:
What was the first thing God gave Moses instructions on building versus what the people built first?
What event came between instructions given and the actual construction?
What lessons did Erika and Veronica give that we learn from the Tabernacle?
What lessons did you come up with that we learn from the Tabernacle?
You can join us on our Facebook page called "The Context and Color of the Bible" as well as Erika's website erikavanhaitsma.com.
In order to prepare for this study we used the following books or articles:
Exploring Exodus by Nahum Saran
Exodus: God, Slavery, and Freedom by Dennis Prager
The JPS Commentary on Exodus by The Jewish Publication Society
Messiah - Issue 24
Exodus: Brazos Theological Commentary on the Bible by Thomas Joseph White, OP
Exodus: A Mentor Commentary by John L. Mackay
Shadows of the Messiah by First Fruits of Zion, book 2
Miqra Journal - Winter 2003
Music: Tabuk by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4453-tabukLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Erika: Do you ever want to dig deeper into the Bible but you just don’t know where to begin? Or struggle to feel like you even have the time? When you read the Bible, do you get frustrated because you know there must be so much more in there, you just have no clue how to get it out? Or maybe you want to know the Bible better and you’re looking for any resource to help. Then this is the podcast for you. Welcome to the Context and Color of the Bible podcast. We are two sisters who love the Bible and we love to help others understand it better. We have found when it comes to our own study of Scripture, that bringing context it adds so much to our understanding. It actually adds color to the black and white pages of the text. Welcome to the book of Exodus.
Erika: Hello Veronica.
Veronica: Hello Erika, are you ready?
Erika: I am. This is episode sixteen and we are chasing wisdom through the book of Exodus.
Veronica: Yes, and if you’re still hanging with us, you deserve a pat on the back, a high five.
Erika: Bravo, brava. If we could, we’d send you a candy bar or chocolate or sit down and have a coffee with you and just chat to see what you learned and what you think.
Veronica: When we started Exodus, we thought it would be…
Erika: Fifteen weeks…
Veronica: at the most
Erika: That’s right. That’s all right.
Veronica: We allowed ourselves some wiggle room and we decided we’re going longer. But, we have this episode and next week will be the finale for Exodus. Because at some point, we do need to end. We could go forever, which is the beauty of Scripture. And maybe in five years we’ll come back and re-hit Exodus.
Erika: Yeah, there you go. With all the new stuff we’ve learned.
Veronica: But we left off last week Erika with the end of chapter thirty-three, beginning of chapter thirty-four. And just as a summary of chapter thirty-four, cause we’re not going to dig into it.
Erika: Right. We kind of hit it last week.
Veronica: We hit it enough last week, but the idea that Moses goes back up the mountain, God gives Moses two more tablets and then God reiterates, “Here’s the covenant. Here's what you’re agreeing to. Here's what the people are agreeing to.” So He restates it…
Erika: Fun fact I just learned the actual old covenant is when the people said we will obey. That was the covenant and then the Torah, these commands, are just the terms of it, but they aren’t it (the covenant).
Veronica: Ok. Just saying…
Erika: Roll that out there.
Veronica: She’s randomly just throwing that out.
Erika: Right, that might become important.
Veronica: But the idea of this is nothing new. So we’re not going to take the time to go over it. As we’ve moved through the book of Exodus, we started with God redeems. God redeemed His people out of Egypt.
Erika: He brought them out and paid a price.
Veronica: Then they spent some time getting to know God as He used that memory and that knowing Him to remind them, “here’s who I’ve been and here’s who I will be.” And so He gave them time to experience His faithfulness, His love, His care. And then He brought them to Mount Sinai, where He covenants with the people. And that’s where we’ve just been the last couple of weeks. We’ve slowed down and now we’re really speeding up. We’ve got to the best part of the book, in a way - of God dwelling with His people.
Erika: Right. Because this is what it’s all about. This is the reason God redeemed and covenants in the first place is so that God can dwell. This is the highlight.
Veronica: Yeah and we’re taking it and chopping it into two episodes.
Erika: But we are still going to give you some great stuff in those two episodes.
Veronica: But in that, I also think, this is where we are today. And this is where the people have been. God wants to dwell. It’s actually an ongoing story and this is the part of the story that will never end. God dwelling with His people. And so we have, we’re going to skip back now to Exodus twenty-five because, actually we’re not even going to be at twenty-five. But I just want to point out , Exodus twenty-five, twenty-six, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, thirty, thirty-one are all God speaking to Moses and giving him the instructions of how to build the Tabernacle. And then, you could almost lay chapters thirty-five, thirty-six, thirty-seven, thirty-eight, and thirty-nine next to it and see almost word for word God said it and they did it.
Erika: You know, it’s fascinating though, and we won’t get into it, I’ll just throw this out there as a teaser and see if anybody answers it when this podcast airs, but notice the first thing God tells the people to build versus the first thing the people actually build and what happens between those two to change that. There’s a reason….
Veronica: Yeah, because we’re not even getting into that.
Erika: We’re not going to go into that, but it’s a fascinating thing to look at and go, oh, they didn’t start with what God said, they started with something else. And what did they start with and why? So if any of our listeners would love to answer that…
Veronica: Jump on our Facebook page, the Context and Color of the Bible.
Erika: We’d love to hear from you if you figure it out.
Veronica: I’ll give you a hint. Look at the headings, if your Bible has headings. That helps.
Erika: And what’s the big thing that happens between those two.
Veronica: But, God takes twelve chapters, Erika, twelve chapters! There is nothing else in all of Scripture that takes twelve chapters - not one storyline, not one event- that God takes twelve chapters to describe.
Erika: This matters to God. This Tabernacle is so important, it is huge. So God is very detail specific. How you’re going to make it, and what exactly, I mean, down to like the number of rings on the poles. He’s very specific.
Veronica: I mean, even the life of Jesus…yes you could argue there’s four books…but that covers three years-ish. And those are duplicating, reiterating what the other one said. But if you took a single event, a single thing that happens to Jesus, there is not one thing that matches the depth, the pages, the words, the ink of Scripture that God uses. So we thought, because honestly, I struggled with this. I kept coming to Erika saying, “ohhhh. Twelve chapters, what are we going to do with it?”
Erika: Right. We’re not going to go word for word, verse by verse. We’re going to pull out principles. Truths that you can glean from these chapters that as you guys are reading through it, then you can go back and say, “ohhh, here’s where they got it from.” And we’ll see what else you guys can come up with.
Veronica: And we have to say, cause we’re trying not to steal people’s ideas and thoughts, I heavily used Dennis Prager.
Erika: Yep. I’ve used others.
Veronica: I have too, but we always have in our show notes our resources. You can go read those for yourselves, all the different people we are taking ideas from but we are giving them credit. But the idea that repetition is important, but I want to start, before we get into talking about the Tabernacle. We have to go back to the whole idea of God dwelling. God dwelled. And God was dwelling in the garden with Adam and Eve. He walked among the garden with them. There were no boundaries, there were no barriers. Pre-sin. Pre-the fall. And so then, and so that’s what God wants, and that’s where He started and that’s where we’re going to end up one day again. But in the meantime, sin came and there was an automatic, because of God’s character, because of who God is, there was an automatic barrier that was put up because of sin.
Erika: Right. To protect us.
Veronica: Right.
Erika: Because if we were to enter God’s presence, we would die.
Veronica: We would burn. But, God so desperately wants to be with His people, so wants to be dwelling among them, that He came to Moses and said, I have the solution to how I can dwell again, how you can come into my presence safely. And so, I find it interesting that God, but yet He knows we need those boundaries. So those boundaries are for protection.
Erika: They’re like guardrails when you’re going around those mountain roads or you’re up on a high cliff and they have handrails or you know, you’re up somewhere high. They are boundaries to protect us.
Veronica: Right, that’s why we give our children boundaries. Here’s how close you can get to the road. All of these are God saying, “I want you to be with me, but you have to do it safely.” And so, all of this has been God saying, “let’s be together, let us dwell together.” I’m going to keep hitting that word dwell, because we want you to get it. So He’s very specific in what He says to Moses. Because ultimately, this is what’s going to carry God and His people forever, is being together. But what I love is God doesn’t just say, “hey Moses, build me a building. Just, you go figure it out, I’ll leave it up to you guys. Get a group together, make a plan and figure out where I’ll dwell and I’ll come dwell there”. There’s a few things we can glean from that. Do you remember the first thing you said to me?
Erika: Well for my home, I had opinions. When we were buying a house a few years ago, I had an opinion about what I wanted in my house. We have five children. I wanted bedrooms for the kids. And, they’re sharing rooms, but we didn’t want to stick them all in one room. So we had opinions about what we were looking for. And I think God is similar, He has opinions.
Veronica: I built my house that my husband and I lived in for fifteen years before we moved, and I had opinions. I had the joy and the pleasure and the frustration sometimes, of building from the ground up and thinking, oh, there’s so many things.
Erika: So many options.
Veronica: But it was exactly what I wanted. I mean, I had everything in that house that I hand picked. My husband helped. But you think about, God’s having His house built…
Erika: He has an opinion.
Veronica: He does, but it’s not just here’s what I like. He was actually replicating His dwelling place.
Erika: Right. The sages say that, because God says to Moses, build it like I showed you on the mountain. So the sages say that there actually is a temple in heaven where the angels ministered and that Moses was either shown a vision or transported there and he saw the temple in heaven and that was the picture he was given to take to earth to say “okay, here’s what the Tabernacle needs to look like.” So God is making a replica on earth of what He has in heaven.
Veronica: Which Erika, I think is just so good to know, this wasn’t just God saying, “ehh, throw it together.”
Erika: I like blue, I like purple.
Veronica: Maybe this. I mean, there were a couple things when we were building that I was like, I don’t care anymore. Just whatever. Whatever’s cheap, whatever’s on sale.
Erika: That was not God’s opinion.
Veronica: No. God was replicating His actual dwelling place and saying, “you need to see this.” But then also, there was another point that God made sure they had specific instructions because He didn’t want them to copy what they had already been seeing.
Erika: In Egypt or other pagan cultures. He did not want a temple that just looked like every other god’s temple. Because He was not like every other god.
Veronica: So there’s differences God sets up. Where were we, in Egypt, they would have worshiped the cows. So God says slaughter the cows and use them as a sacrifice.
Erika: Right, they often would use the liver, the entrails of the animal to do fortune telling. Well God says, “no, burn those up. Don’t even be tempted to use those.” Men and women were both often priests in many pagan temples, but then you had a lot of sexual misconduct going on, and was often part of the worship service, and so God says, “no way, just men, we’re not even going to go there. We are going to protect marriage, sex and women and we’re going to keep them outside of this so that sex isn’t even a part of my worship.”
Veronica: So as you read through those chapters, if you struggle with what might that be, sometimes you need to look and ask, what would be the opposite. Because maybe God’s saying I want it to look opposite, I want it to be set apart, different from the false gods.
Erika: God is a God of life and everything in the Tabernacle and His Scriptures, it is all about life and a lot of what God does is to encourage life. So, like a priest could not touch a dead body, especially a high priest, because they were not priests of the dead, they were priests for living people, for the living God. So some of this is the separation between life and death and you have to, as a priest now of the living God, you can’t be around death in that way.
Veronica: So, that would be kind of the intro I’m going to say. Now we’re going to get into why God? What are the lessons we can pull from looking at the Tabernacle?
Erika: I loved this quote, Veronica from Rabbi Hirsch, “to the Greeks, the beautiful was holy, but to the Jews, the holy was beautiful”
I thought that was such a great quote. You know, to a Greek thinker, if it’s beautiful it must be special, but to the Jewish people, if it’s special, it’s beautiful. It’s a different emphasis. To them, holiness was beautiful. We talked about this earlier, you’ll see both sanctuary and Tabernacle in Scripture. Sanctuary, the Hebrew word, means holy place. Tabernacle creates a portable holy space. Tabernacle means the dwelling place. So they are both talking about the same thing, but depending on which word is used, it might be focusing on, is this a holy space to worship God or is this a dwelling place where our God can be with us? They both are the same space, but it depends on what you are emphasizing.
Veronica: So is it more of the perspective?
Erika: Yeah. You know versus calling God Elohim versus Adonai versus…depends on what emphasis they want to put on it. But one thing, when Veronica and I were studying this that really hit me hard was that, to the Jewish people, for years, let me think of how to say this. The majority of Israelites would not be allowed to see inside the Tabernacle. Or inside the temple when that was built. And now we’ve had centuries where we don’t even have a Tabernacle or a temple.
Veronica: Because only the priests and the high priests were allowed to enter beyond those veils.
Erika: Right. And so what the Bible does is it gives us a detailed picture of what is happening inside the sanctuary. So when the priest takes your sacrifice, you would help slaughter it, and they would take it up on the altar.
Veronica: So you would be in the courtyard.
Erika: You would be in the courtyard, helping to slaughter it. Now things changed when they got the Temple and things changed with the second Temple a little bit. But I believe in the beginning you would be in the courtyard helping to slaughter the animal and then the priest would take it and burn it and sometimes they’d go into the sanctuary, sometimes they’d just stay out in the courtyard, but whatever they were doing, the Bible gives us so much detail, you can picture it. You know exactly what’s happening and there’s no secrecy. There’s no mystery. It’s not shrouded in this darkness, this special mystic aura, I don’t know what they’re doing in there, it’s special. You know exactly what’s going on because God wants to be known. He did not want His worship shrouded in mystery, He doesn’t want the Tabernacle shrouded in mystery. God wants to be known and He created us to be rational creatures. So an understanding of how He’s worshiped and what He’s like, because a God who’s shrouded in mystery, you can’t really know. You can’t really have a relationship with him.
Veronica: Because you’re always guessing.
Erika: You’re always guessing. But a God who says, here’s exactly what the high priest is doing on the Day of Atonement, so you know what’s happening in that inner room, in the Holy of Holies. You know. So that helps you to know that God, what’s going on. There’s no mystery. It’s a known God because He wants to be known and worshiped.
Veronica: But there’s a safeguard too with that, that the priest can’t then change it and pollute it. Because I know what you’re supposed to be doing, you know? It’s safe and pleasant and good for everybody.
Erika: We all know what needs to happen so they can’t take it and change it. Well, I think this year God wants it done this way. No, we all know God wants it done that way, so do it that way. But I thought that was such a big, God wants to be known and so He creates a Tabernacle where we can see inside even without being able to go inside.
Veronica: Well and we talked about that before Erika, when we talked about the laws and the commands God gives in Exodus and in Deuteronomy and in Leviticus. He doesn’t leave them guessing. He says, you don’t know me, so I’m going to tell you exactly what I like, exactly how I want it to go. Because so often those pagan religions, those false gods, it was always uh, maybe, I don’t know, I hope I did the right thing but I don’t know. There was always that uncertainty. God wants us to know with one hundred percent certainty, here’s how to worship Me, here’s who I am, here’s how I will respond.
Erika: So there’s no guessing. I can know what pleases Him and I can do it. And when I screw up, I can know how to fix it and how to make it right-what repentance looks like and what needs to happen.
Veronica: Erika, I loved what you said earlier, the idea of the Tabernacle was like the Garden of Eden. Do you want to expound on that?
Erika: A lot of the decorations, pomegranates, a lot of the flowers, the poles especially in the temple I think were created to look like trees, in Solomon’s temple. The colors, there’s lights, there’s life, there’s jewels. A lot of this is recalling the Garden of Eden.
Veronica: There’s nature.
Erika: There’s nature woven into the natural…
Veronica: Into the veils, into the curtains. You’re using color. I read earlier as I was studying again today, the blue reminds you of creation.
Erika: Yeah, the sky, the firmament that God created along with the purple being royalty. But yeah, there’s a lot of life in the Garden of Eden. In fact the Rabbis even talk about how, it’s almost like there’s seven levels to the Tabernacle and each level represents a different day of creation as they are building it. They see a lot of connections to creation.
Veronica: Well and even in the material list, you can break it down into seven groups. And then you have the idea too, that God tells the people, work for six days and then rest on the seventh. Do not build.
Erika: Which sets up the holiness of time more than the holiness of a place. So that, which I think is a gracious gift of God, it makes God’s worship universal, that it’s yes, this space is specifically holy to God, but time is even holier to God, so therefore, a set apart time is more important so that even when I’m not on that specific place, I can still worship God at this specific time and I think God’s looking forward to a time where the Tabernacle and the Temples would be destroyed. Israel still has time. They still have a sacred time to meet with their God since they no longer have the sacred space, it is gone at the present. They still have their sacred time.
Veronica: And with that too we’re all commanded to reflect God. We’re His ambassadors. We’re supposed to be His representatives. Well if you’re being His representative, then when He was creating a creation, He worked for six days and He rested on the seventh. So therefore you’re my representative, you’re me, work for six days and then rest.
Erika: Worship Me on the seventh day, be with Me. We can get so caught up in doing things that we forget it’s about. We are very much called to do. But we are also called to be with our God and enjoy His presence. And so there is a time when pastors, when missionaries, when moms and dads, you need to take a break and say “ok, I’m done doing at the moment Lord, and I’m just going to be with You.” That is vital to a relationship with God.
Veronica: But also the idea of creation, you can see that in creation God had order. He had a plan. And you see that order, that plan, that symmetry in the Tabernacle.
Erika: Yes, it’s not haphazard. It’s very symmetrical. There’s a lot of sevens used. Or what, threes and fours and tens. There are numbers that are used over and over again.
Veronica: I just know there’s fifty gold rings. That one keeps sticking in my head for some reason. And it’s like a hundred and fifty feet…by seventy-five. I think that’s what, when I looked it up. And the Holy of Holies is a perfect square. So you just, you can learn who God is, even in how He builds and designs His house.
Erika: He’s not a God of chaos or disorder. Look at the world, He’s a God of order, of symmetry, of balance. I don’t know if moderation is a good word. Balance. He likes it to be well placed, not just haphazard thrown about.
Veronica: But with that, I even think, you know, visually pleasing. Aesthetically pleasing. He could have made us so we only saw black and white. He could have made us only have two colors, three colors. But instead, He created the world with color, with beauty. What God has made, around the world, is beautiful. But each place is different. Those who love the mountains can enjoy that. Those who love the beaches and the oceans. That's a different beauty and God just has filled so much variety in the world and you see that then represented in the Tabernacle in the colors He uses. For the longest time, it feels bad to say, “oh I want things to look nice.” I want things to look pretty, to me it matters if it’s aesthetically pleasing. I will go crazy on just finding the right font when I’m writing or putting things together, I like that. And it was kind of nice to read about the Tabernacle and see, oh, God likes that too. I think you can swing it too far and go too much, but God…
Erika: Because there’s nothing wrong with doing that either…
Veronica: No, I just remember one time my husband and I and the kids were driving to church and we lived in Alaska and it was a gray, cloudy, the snow was coming day and against the pristine whites-it had just snowed the night before. So there was just snow everywhere and the green spruce trees, just the gray with the white with the blue sky that was just starting to come up, it was just breathtaking. Gorgeous. And I told my husband, God’s colors never clash. I would have never thought to put those colors together, but you just stop and say, God is a God of beauty and therefore the Tabernacle was to be beautiful. His dwelling is beautiful. Just like if you walk into anyone’s house, it often represents their likes and dislikes. More their likes, you shouldn’t really put your dislikes up. But if you can walk into someone’s house, you can sometimes say, oh, I see you like…
Erika: Right. I can get a feel for who you are and what you are based on your house, your space.
Veronica: Maybe you don’t have a whole house, maybe you just have a room. But our rooms, our places where we dwell often take on…
Erika: Our office spaces, sometimes, our classrooms…
Veronica: Take on our characteristics. And so you have God doing that here and you just go, ok, if we just spent twelve weeks just studying these chapters, what could we learn that God likes?
Erika: He likes order, symmetry.
Veronica: Nature.
Erika: Yes, what He created. You know, it’s interesting Veronica, that’s something I hadn’t even thought of, but the Israelites were living in a tent and so their God is living in a tent, but when they look at His tent, that’s a tent fit for a king. They’re not putting their king on this pile of rags. But they’re putting their king in this beautiful, amazing tent, dwelling place.
Veronica: Way better than any of theirs.
Erika: Right. So you could look at it and say, that’s my king’s tent. That’s a tent to be proud of. Because if His tent is so beautiful, how much more beautiful must my God be? Do you remember that song we used to listen to growing up? He must be beautiful to make this beautiful place? I think it’s an old Psalty song.
Veronica: It’s probably you and Jenna who listened to that one.
Erika: Yes, Jenna, do you remember?
Veronica: Feel free to chime in, Jenna or mom. I often think I had a different childhood than those two. Anyways, but the idea too of, we’re coming down the last couple minutes…that beauty then would also be represented to the world.
Erika: Right, so the world is going to look at this and say, wow, your God must be beautiful. Your king must be amazing. Because what would it mean to put your king on a tent with coals?
Veronica: A pile of rags.
Erika: Yes. Like, what are you saying about your king? Is he worthy of respect, is he beautiful, do you respect your king? Well, no. So if I don’t respect my king, why should I expect the world to respect him?
Veronica: Or why would the world even want my king? If that’s what your king…
Erika: If that’s all He’s worthy of, I mean, we have to remember, He’s God. So He’s not necessarily concerned with, ahh, I don’t need the gold and the silver because there are other people out there who can use it more than me. No, He’s God. He is extremely aware of who He is and what He is and what He deserves. And He has no problem telling you to bring the best of the best, I’m God. I want the gold and the silver because I’m God. I deserve those nice jewels because I’m God. And so, we need to remember that He’s God. And it’s okay to give Him the best. And what He deserves.
Veronica: And because He’s God, and yet, what’s He doing? He’s dwelling with His people. He looks, He’s a God who just by His power, by His character, by who He is, we all fall flat on our face before Him. So it would make sense that His dwelling would be worthy of those riches. That it would look worthy of a king who we all fall flat on our face before.
Erika: I had this quote from one commentary, “the Tabernacle recapitulates creation and symbolized why God created it in the first place, that He might dwell with man. The Tabernacle represents both the Lord of hosts in heaven and the Lord present on earth. It is a meeting point or bridge between God and man. Between the eternal dwelling of God and the temporal dwelling of man.” And it needs to represent both God and man in that sense. So you have this amazingly beautiful structure with order, with symmetry, that is fit for a king. But then you also have this space where man can come. Sinful man can come safely and enter this king’s presence safely. And I think often Veronica, we forget that God’s presence in the Tabernacle and in the temples later existed. It was really there.
Veronica: It was really there. It was God’s presence.
Erika: In a way He’s not on earth today, anymore. Yes, His presence is in His people, but not like He’s in the Tabernacle. You know, when God’s presence filled the Tabernacle, nobody could enter it in the beginning. When God’s presence filled the temple, people fell on their faces and it was a moment of awe. Nobody feels awe when I walk in a room because of the presence of God, you know? Like, yes, God’s presence is in us, but not like it was in the Tabernacle and in the temples. God’s presence was there in a very real powerful potent way. And therefore, you wanted something that fit, that He would be pleased to dwell in. And the Rabbis, the Jewish people, actually looked at the Tabernacle as kind of like, and I’m going to use the word magical but maybe the word mystical would be better as a portal to heaven. That there was a connection at the Tabernacle between earth and heaven that didn’t exist anywhere else on earth, because God’s presence was there, because you could pray there and your prayers would go up to heaven because of the sacrifices and the incense rising up to heaven. So you know, in Daniel, when he prays, he prays towards Jerusalem, because that’s where my prayers go up to heaven. So that’s the, in the Diaspora, they would always pray that way because the temple later in Jerusalem, that is the focal point between heaven and earth. There’s a bridge, a connection there that doesn’t exist anywhere else.
Veronica: So, with that, I’m going to say, we have so much more to say, you need to come back next week. Because honestly, I think we’ve given a lot of food for thought.
Erika: We probably have.
Veronica: We probably have. So we probably need to, besides the time, let people stop and think and ponder and chew on this. But we’re not done talking about the Tabernacle.
Erika: And next week might be longer.
Veronica: It might be.
Erika: Because we said we could go longer…
Veronica: Because we said we’re going to finish it next week. But, this is the Context and Color of the Bible podcast. We have our Facebook page like I said, the Context and Color of the Bible. We have Erika’s website, ErikaVanHaitsma.com. But we would ask that you would, wherever you listen to podcasts, rate, share, subscribe, review, just help push our podcast up so other people can hear and learn because I’m sure there’s other people out there going, why are there twelve chapters on the Tabernacle?
Erika: What can I gain from this?
Veronica: What can I learn? And we think there’s a lot to learn.
Erika: If you learned something, let us know and share it with a friend.
Veronica: Share it with a friend.
Erika: Tell then what you learned.
Veronica: If everybody listening could just share this with one friend…
Erika: Right, what’s one thing you learned?
Veronica: Right. Thanks for listening and we’ll talk to you next week, bye!