Episode 129 | John Rusciano | ET's Among Us

In the next episode of the Infinite Star Connections podcast, Jeff and Viviane welcome John Rusciano. We will explore his incredible life journey, intuitive gifts, projects, and galactic experiences. 

Have you heard of the original series, ETs Among Us?  John Rusciano is the visionary behind this amazing Symposium. Viviane had the pleasure of filming an episode on Universal Realignment and the Galactic Connection, available on Gnostic TV and the Arcturian Network.

John Rusciano is an author, self-mastery mentor, and compassionate guide devoted to helping others unlock their highest potential through the integration of consciousness, energy, and embodied intelligence. Drawing from quantum physics, heart-centered awareness, and the deeper mechanics of reality, John explores how transformation begins from within. Through his teachings, healing work, and mentorship, he empowers others to remember their multidimensional nature and live as conscious co-creators within the architecture of existence. 

Watch Viviane's episode in "ETs Among Us" on Gnostic TV and the Arcturian Network. 

Gnostic TV: https://gnostictv.com/programs/viviane-chauvet-ets-among-us
Arcturian Network: https://arcturiannetwork.com/

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:03

Welcome everyone to the Infinite Star Connection podcast with your host, Jeff Demesse, Ambassador and Representative for the Ponty Intergalactic Group. I'm Viviane Chauvet, Octuran Ambassador, directly representing the Octurian nations, and on behalf of the Galactic Life Forces, we are thrilled to welcome someone new to the podcast, never explored before, quite excited to explore John's uh today journey. But before we take a deep dive, let's allow me just to introduce John a little bit further. He's an author, a self-mastery mentor, and compassion guide devoted to helping others unlock their highest potential through the integration of consciousness, energy, and embodied intelligence, drawing from quantum physics, heart-centered awareness, and a deeper mechanics of reality. John explores how transformation begins from within, which is very true. It really begins from within. So John offers all kinds of teaching, teeting work, mentorship, empowerment technique, multidimensional aspect. We are really excited to welcome you today, John.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Thank you, Vivian. Thank you for having me on. Thank you, Jeff. It's a pleasure to be here with you both today.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Well, it's a pleasure. It's ours, right, John? Hello, John. Jeff. I'm gonna make a lapsus, John. Jeff, it's gonna be very close for me today, just so you know. Well, let's this is a joy. Jeff and I have a philosophy. Whoever we welcome to our podcast, it's about our guests. So we want to know your journey. Want to share some pictures later on about some of your encounter and experience with the Star Nations. We want to know what who are you and and what has your journey look like for you, John? Let's take a deep dive.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Well, it has been a very interesting journey. I've I've always mentioned to the people that have been closest to me that my life always had that element of high strangeness. And when I go back to my earliest childhood memory, the very first one was standing in my bedroom, having this conversation with myself. What am I doing here? And from the adult perspective, I would think that would be a little confusing looking back as a child asking that question. I felt very connected to the stars. I thought that there was some mix-up, and I was accidentally dropped off on the wrong planet or something. And my my favorite time was nighttime. I used to love to go out to my yard and look up into the stars at night and ponder about other life. And so that's how it started. It was that, and I was also very empathic as a child. I felt everything so strongly from others. I was able to see people's gifts and abilities, what was holding people back, the stories they were telling. And the third thing that came in that moment was all I want to do is be loved. And I reflected on that later in life, and I realized that feeling had come from that place of not wanting to forget where I came from. I knew that I came here to help, but I didn't really have the answers as that little boy standing in my bedroom, what that actually meant. That didn't come till later on in my life.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

And that was just share right there, John. Many people, many starsees fell that energy to cultivating to even as a young child to realize was I dropped on this rock by mistake? Was I left behind? What am I doing here? So from that profound discussion with yourself, even as a child, whether it led you to, did you move to a self-realization? Was it the motivation for a breakthrough or an awakening, perhaps?

SPEAKER_00 4:28

That that was just the process. I I would have to say is that the real CAD list, that that was just the beginning, but the real CAD list, when I was about 11, going on 12, my grandfather, who was really meant the world to me, and he was really sick with lung cancer, and I knew he was really ill, and I thought he was going to be okay. And my parents thought it would be best for my younger brother and I not to really explain to us how ill he was. But one evening while I was asleep, my grandfather came to me while I was asleep, and he and he said three things to me. The first one is he wanted to tell me how loved I was. The second thing that he said to me is that he was going to be with loved ones on the other side, and he was extremely happy about that. He had such a big smile on his face. And the third thing he said to me, he said, Don't worry, we're going to be together again soon. And then he departed. But what's really fascinating about that is that the imagery and the vividness of that vision was more vivid than our physical reality that we call our life. This is what seemed almost not real in comparison to that interaction that I had in that moment with my grandfather. My alarm went off. I went to school with my younger brother. I didn't mention anything to anyone, I kept it to myself. And after returning home, it was maybe 15 minutes or so. The extended family started coming through the door, and there wasn't a dry eye. And it was in that moment that I realized that my grandfather had passed. And it made me start questioning reality. What is reality? Why are we here? Where do we come from? Where do we go after we pass away from this physical body? There's got to be more to life. And it became a burning desire and a burning passion within me to find out those answers. And that is what really started to become the catalyst. And there were so many more events, uh, spiritual awakening events and things that came after that. But that was to me what felt like the key that unlocked the door to a deeper exploration of why we're here and who we are.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Incredible. I can feel the energy on the heart level when you shared with all of us this moment of what your grandfather mentioned to you. And he was unlocking another door for you. And I know it's very obvious, but allow me to ask you this, John. Have you been in communication with your grandfather ever since?

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Yes, he he's around. He's around quite a bit. And um, I know he acts as a guide guide for me and a cheerleader for me. And uh he says that he's very, very proud. And so it's it's nice to be able to still feel him.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

It's it's incredible because you know, such at a such young age, it allows you to understand right away what this physical reality versus the true nature of who we are as infinite being, being of light. We are pure consciousness, pure energy. And I love what you established that right at the beginning and for the gift that your grandfather um, you know, gave you and that key of unlocking something further, it's it's incredible. I had a joy with a joy in that sense to share something similar. But for me, it was my grandmother when she passed away when I was nine, and I was so mad at her for leaving me that I demanded of her to show me where she was. So I wanted to learn on the other side what it looked like. So I can complotely relate to your experience, John.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

It was um it was a life-changing experience, and I still miss them in the physical, of course, but it it it definitely opened up something within me to to realize to really make the best out of this life, to live this life to the fullest. And um so many things came after that.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

Oh do you want to share with us?

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Yeah, uh when I moved out on my own, I I was experiencing negative synchronicity, and I I knew that something was quite amiss, and I really couldn't put my finger on what was the cause of that. And then one day I was getting off of work and I was going up the on-ramp of the freeway when I felt the accelerator of my car pull out from underneath my foot. And the accelerator is now all the way on the floor, and I'm at top speed in my car racing down the freeway, weaving in and out of traffic. And I wasn't feeling that it was going to end well when I heard this gentle voice in my head that said, Turn the ignition off. So I turned the ignition off to the accessory position so that I still had control of the car and the steering wheel, that it wasn't locked out. And I was able to get my vehicle safely pulled over to the side of the road. And as you can imagine, my adrenaline was pumping. And I was asking those questions, like, what is going on? Something's seriously amiss. Uh, spirit must be trying to show me something or give me a message, and I'm not hearing what it is. So I started paying attention and I started noticing the inner dialogue that was going on in my consciousness. I was only like 21, 22 years old at that time. And um I noticed the negative comments or the self-criticism that I had going on towards myself, and that gentle voice came back again and it said, change the pattern, change the story. So I started feeling into what those situations were showing me, and I started asking myself, well, how can I look at this through a different lens, a different way, a different perspective? And so I started doing that. But it wasn't just changing things around. It's like, okay, I'm gonna be that person now. I'm gonna act like that person, I'm gonna talk like that person. And at the same time, I was wanting to change jobs, change careers, but I knew I was gonna have to go back to school. I wanted to go into telecommunications, I knew I was gonna have to go back to college. But I wanted to sort through all this that was going on, and day one didn't look any different, day two didn't look any different, and then all of a sudden, around day 25, a breakthrough happened as I kept doing this. A woman walked up to where I was working and said, You look like the perfect person for this job. But what caught my attention was the hours because it fit perfectly with being able to go back to school for telecommunications. I went for the interview, found out I was overqualified, they weren't gonna hire me. So I had nothing to lose at that point, and I said, Well, I'm the right person for this job. Give me 30 days. If you're not happy with my performance, just simply let me go. So I got the job. Worked there two weeks, and a manager stopped me in the hallway and said, We noticed that you're a hard worker, and a lot of people have taken notice to you. Have you ever thought of a job working in telecommunications? And of course, my jaw dropped. Like, how can this be? And so I've already talked to your supervisor. If you're interested, come down. And so I went down to their office after my shift and I got the job. They hired me into the telecommunications department, spent probably over fifty thousand dollars worth of their money to train me on their time and gave me a three thousand dollar Christmas bonus to boot. And that was back in the middle eighties. So, you know, that was a lot more money back then. And it was in that moment that I noticed reality started changing. It almost seemed not real, very plastic-like. It reminded me a little bit of Disneyland. If you ever went on the Haunted Mansion, they have the pirates and but the holographic projections, and you you can tell that they're not real. Reality started kind of looking like that. It just didn't quite seem like it wasn't fully rendered. And so I started having those experiences, and that's when I started realizing that we create our reality. I started noticing too, Vivian, that the correspondence of the thoughts that I was having, how it was showing up in my life, not just with the physical manifestations, but even with the periphery, people walking down the sidewalks. I was able to start seeing how everything fit in the place. It was a very odd but beautiful experience.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

I absolutely love how you are depicting the correlation between the manifestation of our thought forms and how it has the authority, the power to shape or influence our reality. And back then, that realization you were you were 25 when that happened, correct?

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Uh I was about 22, 22 years old.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Okay. That is absolutely life-changing and at such a young age to start to realize that the manifestation of your thoughts and how changing your mindset and everything, you were reshaping your reality. So, what happened beyond that after this telecommunication job, the realization of the mind thoughts projection, manifestation? What happened after that?

SPEAKER_00 15:01

I I really didn't understand the mechanics that was going on behind that. I knew it had to do with the positivity, I knew it had to do with reframing my reality. I literally had gained 100% control of every single thought that was going through my conscious mind, which is no small task. But the reason I think that happened for me is because I felt like my life depended on it after the car incident. There's something that I'm not seeing, and it was so important and so up front and center that I was literally not letting anything go through my conscious mind that wasn't positively oriented in the direction that I chose to move in. Then I went through some more challenges, but I wanted to understand the mechanics. And I think when people are on a spiritual path, at least from my own experiences, that we we encounter more challenges as we go up in vibration. At least that's been my personal experience. I'm not going to sit here and say that has been an easy road because it has not. I've definitely had my share of challenges. And I was faced with a relationship issue that I was going through. It was very difficult. And I had a choice. Do you choose love or do you choose fear? Even when the other person's not choosing love. So it becomes one of those things. You can have the eye for an eye or take the higher road, or as Yeshua said, love thy enemies, right? Don't return for evil for evil, for it will never leave your home. Meaning he was speaking of vibration. If we're vibrating in the lower frequency, that's going to be our point of attraction. So I took a lot of those messages to heart that Yeshua taught. And I said, What would he do? And I chose to take the higher road. And as I took that higher road, I noticed that the way that I was able to respond to situations that were going in my life was from compassion. I was able to step back and almost put myself in the other person's shoes. And like, whoa, what would they have to believe in order to really be feeling the way that they're feeling? And I was suffering with a little bronchitis at the time, and my doctor was putting me in all these antibiotics, they weren't working. And I just felt the nudge to try something different. So back then it was the old-fashioned yellow pages. So I looked through there and I said, maybe some Chinese herbs. Maybe that will help. And I saw they had certified professionals there to help. And so I got in my car and I drove over there. And it's the first time I ever had walked into a metaphysical store. I didn't even know what metaphysics was. And I saw these beautiful crystals in the store. And I I just felt this call or this pull towards this one particular crystal. It was just a small clear piece of quartz. And I went over and I and I picked it up. And when I picked it up, I felt these little electric pinpricks, little charges of electricity discharging into the palm of my hand. Within a few minutes, I started feeling energy tactile. I started feeling an energy field build around my body. It's never left me. I still still feel energy in a tactile way from that experience. But when I went home and I was sitting in my recliner, out of the corner of my eye, I started seeing light coming out of the side of my leg and the bottom of my foot. This is beautiful white light. I look and it would disappear. And I'm thinking, in my my lips in my mind, what is going on? And then I focus on what I was focusing on. And then out of the corner of my eye, the light starts appearing. And then I start seeing what looks like people moving in my living room. And then I look over and there's nobody there. When I went to work the next day, I was a telecommunications technician at the time. And I would go from company to company. And I had a lot of friends in this different places. And it was as if the universe was playing a joke on me this next day. And it said, if you're sick, tell me about it. Everyone just started expressing that they had illnesses or they were diagnosed with something. And I said, Well, I could say a little prayer for you. And I put my hand on their shoulder. And as I would begin to pray, it felt like Hoover Dam flowing down through my arm of electricity into these people's bodies, and they started healing. Then those people started telling their friends and their friends and their friends, and then it started spreading. And next thing I know, I had more people that I knew what to do with. And it opened up uh the spiritual journey or the spiritual aspect of my life, realizing that I came here to do a lot of healing work. So that was just the beginning of that opening of that journey. Then the ETs came later, and that was something else that showed up. They started showing up as well.

SPEAKER_02 20:35

Incredible. Go ahead, Chef, my friend.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

I can relate to the ET showing up later.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Yeah, that was quite a surprise. And uh that uh I mean I could share that with you. I didn't know if you had any questions about what I shared, or I can keep going.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

I I like to hear more about the ET stuff myself, um, compared to what I have here.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Well, what happened is it was when I met this woman, and we we were just good friends at the time, and somebody broke into her her apartment with a knife, and she managed to get away, and the police told her it wasn't safe for her to go home. And so they asked her if there's any place that you can go stay. And so she rang me up and said, Is it okay if I come stay with you for a little bit? And till the police kind of get a handle on you know what's actually going on. So she came over to stay with me, and you know, I offered up my sofa and I set her all up, and I woke up in the middle of the night to use the restroom, and I just happened to walk out to check on her, and she was gone. And the sofa was made all made. Up the blankets were gone, the pillows were gone, and I'm thinking to myself, Well, where did she go? And the lock was thrown from the inside. You have to lock it with a key from outside. And she didn't have a key because it was her first night there. And I'm thinking, Well, where did she go? She's got to be inside somewhere. And it so happened that my son was visiting his mom that weekend. So I just automatically assumed maybe she went and crawled into his bed. So I walked by the door and I saw these lumps under the blanket, and I assumed it was her, and I went back to bed. Then when I woke up in the morning, she was back on the sofa. And I'm like, What are you doing back out here again? And she says, Well, I've been here all night. And I said, No, I came out in the middle of the night, and you you weren't here. And she thought I had, you know, a screw loose or something. It's like, no, I've been here all night. She don't, she didn't remember being gone. And then within the same week, uh, I was home alone. My son had two little kittens and they were racing around the house at night, and I was laying on the sofa. It was probably just past midnight. And I remember telling them, you guys, settle down. And the one jumped off the sofa. And as it jumped off the sofa, it was like time slowed down. It was like like frames of a film. Click, click, click, click. And I'm watching the one cat suspended in the air, just frame by frame by frame, and then it went out a closed window. And it and my mind's like, I know what I saw, but that's not possible. But I know what I saw, that's not possible. And then the next following weeks, that's when we started having sightings. Uh one was going to a friend's event that had opened up a metaphysical center. We were on the way home. My son's asleep in the back seat. My girlfriend's driving my car. I got my seat reclined back. And she just very calmly says, Oh, look at the UFO up there. And I thought she was kidding because it was just so calm. So I pull my seat up and I see something, but you know, I'm trying to think about this from a logical standpoint. Okay, it's something tied to a building or you know, one of these big balloons, and we get closer, and it was a it was a round disk, maybe 40 feet in diameter, roughly. Uh, it was less than 50 feet off the ground, and it was down in between two buildings in a field off the side of the freeway, and it had these rotating uh ring of blue lights on the bottom. It was slightly tilted, and it was just moving really slowly. And I asked her to pull over, she wasn't able to get over, so she got off at the next exit, and we came around and it was gone. And then two weeks later, I don't remember which year it was, I know it was in June because both of our birthdays were in June, and she wanted to go to um Carlsbad down there in California, and so we went down there, and it was evening time, the fog rolled in, and we pulled up to a light. There was only one other car going the opposite direction. Their light turned green, but as we're pulling up to the light, there was this bright white strobe light, a little over 100 feet off the ground, just above this fog that had rolled in this marine layer. And she had asked me, Well, do you feel are you getting thoughts in your head? And I go, No. She goes, What is that light? My dad was a radio amateur, so I automatically assumed it was somebody had a tower in their backyard because it was over somebody's home. And I thought it was just a beacon on somebody's home. But after that car went and our light turned green, this is where our stories are different. My recollection of what happened and her recollection are completely different. She remembers seeing a craft come all the way down to the hood of the car and before it shot up, and I don't remember any of that. It the beacon was gone, and but I have no recollection of that at all. But then the other things started happening, and I started getting visitations at night and and things like that. They asked me to build a pyramid, which I built, but that's the whole nother story. But they they asked me to build some build some things. I wasn't really sure why they were having me build these things.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

But happen to get a name.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 26:40

You happen to get a name from them?

SPEAKER_00 26:42

No, I did not.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Okay, so let's just stop here for a moment because this is super interesting. I want to go back to your friend sleeping on the couch to disappear with a blanket, mind you, and a pillow. And to her perspective, she was there on the couch sleeping all night. Obviously, you know, because you got up and saw. Was there any follow-up? Whether it's the follow-up night, whether it's some maybe it's resurfacing dreams or subconscious memory coming back, whether it's the next day, three days later, a week later. Was there any other follow-up after that in that experience of your friend disappearing the middle of the night?

SPEAKER_00 27:27

Um well, with her, it was actually two years later. Oh, okay. Yeah, it took about two years for her. And what they shared is that she was up on the ship with her children. With hybrid children.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

And so she was visiting and supposedly also teaching.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

The hybrid children?

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

And but there was something about our coming together that acted as the catalyst for these experiences to start happening. So I started having more and more and more of these experiences. A lot of them in dream time is how a lot of them first started. And that's when they asked me to it went on for almost a year, Vivi. They asked me to build a pyramid. It was like, Well, I don't know anything about pyramids, I wouldn't even know. They wouldn't leave me alone. I said, You gotta build this pyramid. And finally, out of fear uh pure frustration, I just said, Okay, okay, okay, I'll I'll build this pyramid. And um, they had me build two of them. And the first one they were explaining that it had to do with uh chakra alignment, but the second one they said that was important was it was somehow supposed to help prevent a geological disaster, earthquake here in California. Somehow they said it was stabilizing the tectonic plates, and that one got buried into the earth.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

What did you build a pyramid out of?

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Um I ended up using uh double terminated Tibetan crystals inside of it, along with a very fine um extruded aluminum that I got uh a machining plant to donate. So it had layers, layers of this very fine aluminum particles with layers of these uh double terminated Tibetan crystals that were laid out in the directions north, south, east, and west as a as well as aligned vertically within the pyramid in layers of resin.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

So it's aluminum with resin? Is that what the pyramid is made of?

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Um had a very thin um, I don't know what you want to call it, uh like a fabricated board as the outside frame that built the frame of the pyramid. And then the inside was the extruded uh aluminum philings along with the the crystals and that were layered in uh boat resin, epoxy resin.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

Again, let's go back a little bit when you said it's been going it it was going on for one year. They insisted. So allow us to understand a little bit more. You went from your friend to the driving and then the experience, and then they asking you whose day who are who are you referring to?

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Well, they were they were some form of Grays that were showing up.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Okay, Grays.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

And the this friend ended up being a significant partner later, and she was uh a medium as well, as a profession. And the one night I woke up and and they wanted me to look out my window, it was in a two-story townhome, and I was gonna go open the blinds, and she was a little scared. It's like, no, they're here, don't go open the blinds. But they just kept coming and coming and coming. And they said it's really important for you to build this pyramid. But they the thing is they wouldn't tell me how to build it. That that was the frustrating part. They just told me you have to build it, but they gave me no instructions on how to build it. Okay, they said they had to build it. The instructions didn't start coming until I actually started taking action and I started going to look up, okay, how do I build a pyramid? Then once I started to build it, then they started to give me a little bit of information, okay, do this, do this, or they would lead me in the direction. But up until the time that I started taking action on it, they would not they would not give me anything other than you have to do it, right? They just said it was important.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

So did they again a group of grays, they're the ones who came to your window for over a year and insisting of giving you instructions of building these aluminum-based pyramids, correct?

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Okay. Because the audience wants to know, we're interested, so the vagueness of they want me to do that was not. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Yeah, so so they were they were coming in my dreams when I was sleeping at night. And so it was great for me awake at night, and I was I was just waking up exhausted because I was having these conversations with them while I was sleeping. It's like you have to build this, and my resistance was is I don't know anything about pyramids, you have the wrong guy for this, right? I didn't feel like I was the right person for this. And and it's like, surely there's got to be someone else that knows a lot more about this stuff than I do because I didn't know anything. And they just went and leave it alone. The next night it would be the same thing, and the next night until they actually came to my window. And that that had scared my girlfriend at the time, and she didn't want me to open the window, she was terrified. She had the blank blankets over her head. It's like, no, don't look, don't look, don't look, you know, don't open it.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

So could you see these beings?

SPEAKER_00 33:22

I didn't open the blinds on the second floor, but I did what I did is I went down to the second floor, and the I had a sliding glass door that went out to the backyard, and I looked out there and I didn't see anything. There was just a big blanket of fog. Just imagine if if you just somebody took a white sheet and just you know, everyone's holding a corner, and it's just this flat sheet. It was like this flat fog, and it was low the ground, and so I was below the fog, but my upper window was above the fog. And so when I went up and I wanted to open the blinds and stuff, the the person I was with was too scared, and they they just begged me, he said, please don't open it up. I'm scared, and so I didn't. I now I regret it. I wish I would have. Um, I wish I would have opened it because they um they disappeared for about two years. They stopped visiting after that for a while. In other words, I what didn't have any interactions with them for a while, and I have a feeling that it had to do with um a fear component.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

When you said deal with these uh um grays, did you smell anything?

SPEAKER_00 34:33

No, no. Okay, okay, nothing. It was it was just the feeling and intuitively and sensing and knowing they were there. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

Very good. Well, there's a few questions in the audience for you, John. Would you mind if I read them one by one for you?

SPEAKER_00 34:50

Yeah, I would love that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

Yeah, thank you. So, Whiteheart, a warm welcome to you as well, is asking how lar how large were the pyramids?

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Um, well, the small, well, I don't have it near me, I'd show you, but I don't have it near me. The one I still have, um I don't know if you could see, maybe seven inches to the apex. The other one was quite large. Um probably about maybe a foot and a half. And uh it it it was heavy, maybe maybe close to two feet. I don't remember the exact dimensions, but it weighed pretty close to a hundred pounds when I was done with it. I had to put it on a cart and wheel it around. It wasn't something you could carry under your arm. It it was big. It was it was big, it was really heavy, had a lot of crystals and things in there.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Where'd you get the stones from?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Um, I went out to um Arizona, I'm trying to think, uh court site. Oh, yes, and I saw some double term terminated crystals out there, and a lady that actually owned that particular place came and talked to me and asked me if I was finding everything that I needed. And I told her I was embarking on this project and I needed a lot of these crystals. She literally grabbed me by the hand and took me to a this uh warehouse where they had flats, you know, flats of these. And she was really kind. She told me, So you can mix and match, just take out any size that you want, you can you know move them around and you know, I'll sell you the whole flat. So I bought a whole flat of them there.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

Well, very good.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

That's that's the best way quartz of good good reference, absolutely. The next question. Um uh someone is asking, what does the word the gray mean? Did they say who they were, who they were, or they what they were from? So in other words, they're asking you what what what's out the grays? What is that?

SPEAKER_00 37:04

Well, I think there's a lot of misconceptions around the grays because there's so many different species of grays, at least from my perspective. There is, and and I think there's so many different agendas that that different groups have. But this particular group basically said that they were here to help me not forget who I am and the the reason why I came here, and so I I felt like they were uh very beneficial to me on my path. They did not explain where they were from or anything like that, but that they were acting as as guides to help me stay centered on my path so that I didn't forget who I am. They explained to me that when I incarnated into this life, I came in a little bit differently. That the way it was put is that I came in as a bridge. That's kind of a way that he looked at it. Is I have one foot in this reality and one foot in the higher dimension that if I would have come fully anchored in, that there was probably a high probability that I wouldn't have awoken into this life and why I came here and what I came here to do. So it wasn't really so much about you know what where they're from and what they do, it was more focused around why I came here and to help me stay centered on my mission and not forget that purpose that I came to teach, I came to share. And really their knowledge is that we're divine beings, divine sovereign beings, and stepping back into our own sovereignty, stepping back into the heart, embracing love, most of all love for ourselves. And that the relationship that we're really looking for is the relationship with the self, and that when we can fall in love with the self, then we can really step in and love others and emanate that frequency of unconditional love, which then gives other people the opportunity to choose and um to match that vibration and step in and receive their own gifts and their own abilities and be able to propagate and ripple those frequencies out and help the collective awaken.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

Absolutely. Um, this is very beautiful messages, John. Thank you so much. It's funny because as you were talking about, you know, the group of grace, because you are right, they are many different groups, different species, they're not all the same one size fits all. And what I was getting is that that particular group who was insisting to connect with you, I'm getting that at the at the higher level, you're almost like you're a part of them. You are uh an aspect of them. And they want to make sure that supporting you in your sacred earth life journey, you're still purpose here.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

Yeah, I feel that too. You too.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Yeah, yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

I I I do have a a couple uh couple kids, Octarian kids, too. Uh they're twins, actually. We had spoken about that another time, twin boys. They're they're actually scientists uh exploring how life forms in different galaxies and so forth.

SPEAKER_02 40:06

So uh Octurian uh star seed, you mean?

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 40:11

Oh, beautiful. Yes, that's there's a few of us who come and we once in a while we we get brave and we you know get into the physical aspect of another species to how it puts on the ground that's it's not easy for an Octurian. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

I I I've mentioned to those close to me that this this journey is not for the faint of heart. This is uh this is uh a school of mastery.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

Thankless job.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

Well, I I like to think that uh that there are people thanking us on the on the higher levels because you know what it's been explained to me, it's not we're not just doing this for our own planet, but for our own universe. We're evolving life all throughout our universe. And ultimately, I always kind of come back to the science of the obvious that ultimately everything is one thing: source energy, prime creator, the prime radiant, whatever term that we like to use, all experiencing itself from a different point of view, a different perspective, uh, different angle of reflection. So ultimately we're interacting with ourselves. So the the more love that we put into the world, the more that we're actually helping also the other aspects become more whole as well.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

Absolutely. We're all intertwined, and that's source of infinite energy. So, and thank you for reminding all of us that it's so very true. This is the foundation of all. Um, so building these pyramids in one this beautiful group of great beings coming to you as part of your let's call your star group or your soul over soul connection. I can feel that there was this pyramid was part of your purpose in life to bring them above. What would you say they were so insisting for you to build this pyramid? Some people want to know in the in the audience. Why were you chosen to build those pyramids?

SPEAKER_00 42:11

I wish I had a good answer for that. Um, you know, I I've asked myself the same question, and I believe if if I had to come up with an answer, I would say that I was probably the most open at the time because of exploring, wanting to know more, where I came from, what's my purpose, really aligning to that path. It it really kind of steps back a little bit because I was trying to move my life in a specific direction. And when I focused on a specific thing, I could be a little stubborn on achieving it. And so what happened is every time I'd start moving in in what I thought was the right direction, an obstacle was laid down in front of me. I would just simply say, No problem, I'll just go around it. And then another one would come. And then I go around it, and then another one, and another one. And at some point I had to recognize like, okay, surely this is not a direction I'm supposed to be moving in. And that's when I I quite literally, Vivian, I threw my hands up in the air and I said, out loud in the room. If somebody saw me, they would think I was a crazy person. It's like, okay, I give up. I give up, I give up, I surrender, I surrender. And I said, Whatever, I'm talking to the creator, and I said, whatever your purpose is for my life, use me however you will for the highest good, for the highest purpose, for the highest love. Whatever that is, I will be of service. And then these other doors just started showing up. And so I believe that is probably why. Um, the first pyramid, I don't really understand. Maybe that was just. Just to get my feet weight, uh feet wet in a sense. Because I I took it to a healing fair and I was curious. And there was a gentleman there, an older retired electronics engineer, had one of these aura machines. And I thought it'd be interesting to go see what the effect was. And I told myself, I I think this actually aligns your chakras, is what I what I've been told. But I like to give it a try. And and he he wasn't really too thrilled about even looking at it. And I said, just humor me. It's not gonna hurt anything. And so we did it without the pyramid. And I looked at my chakras and they weren't really in alignment. And then I set the pyramid down and put one hand on the pyramid and one hand on the on the plate, took a reading, and then switched it, put the pyramid on the other hand, and it brought my chakras almost into perfect alignment. Not quite, but pretty, pretty darn close. And that caught his attention. Right. And it's like, hmm, interesting. But that's when they came and they said, We want you to build the second one. And that's when I thought it was over. But that one, it was really explained. That had something to do with geological activity or tectonic plate activity. So I don't I don't know any more than that. And but it ended up getting buried. I don't know if they share any information with you, but that's what was communicated to me is that it had something to do with preventing a larger um earthquake disaster in the state of California. How I can do that, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Oh, well, it's easy. We understand the engineering behind it. Um, think of it this way. The second, because you built two pyramids, which is answer somebody's question here. The second pyramid had a planetary purpose, where the first one was for you know, for people, for yourself, for chakra, aligning ourselves. So it's a self-alignment and then a planetary alignment. And both, of course, were serving each other because they're all interconnected. So think about the timeline, it was also protecting the timeline where we are in right now, because if they were a major or a major catastrophe at that level, it would affect it, the planetary grids and the timelines. And you know, interdimensional beings like the advanced intelligence grades are part of them, and others, like the Octurnians, the Andromedans, and many, many others. We understand the impact of the timeline and how it can affect the planet or the planet affecting the timelines. So that's all I'm gonna say about that, but it makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

It was definitely a project of love. I mean, I had fun doing it, I just had no idea what I was building and the purpose. But they they they were very insistent. That's why they would just come every night in my dreams and like you have to build this, you have to build. I figured if I didn't build it, they were just gonna just keep coming until I did it.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

Yeah, no, no, they'll keep coming, trust me. Yeah, you know, one when once you agree to do something, you're relentless. That was my experience, yeah, Jeff.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Yeah, they just they they they were relentless, they they definitely were in a loving way. It wasn't anything bad, but they were they were just insistent that I was the right person for the job. And I was thinking, I don't know anything about these pyramids. You you have me mixed up with somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

So no, they know you are. That's what's beautiful today. Uh Jeff, my friend and John, you have this common point with us. You may not know that about Jeff, but Jeff also, let's just say, live daily with his star family group, and it can be very insisting and loud and touchy and all kinds of experience things. Is that is that right, Jeff?

SPEAKER_01 48:08

Yeah, and they eat things, they steal shit, all types of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

I haven't had them steal anything from me, but I I did have them the the one year, the one year for a whole summer. They they would be in the sky, several of them. Sometimes it'd be a couple, sometimes it'd be four, sometimes five. I'd walk out of the apartment where I was living in in Laguna Nigella, California, and they would just be there in the sky. They'd be up high. I mean, they look like um reflective mirrors reflecting in the in the middle of the afternoon in the sky, and they they'd be there for several hours and then they'd disappear, and the next day they'd be back. I went on all summer, all summer long.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Yeah, my guys would phase in and out. You could barely see them. You could see them, but you could see through them. But but they would come in and out, you know, like they own the place. You know, they ate my damn pickle. They're still having forgotten for that.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

I I've had that too. Not with steel and stuff, but I've I've only had uh two physical encounter uh incidences where I've seen them physically um in my waking time. Uh one was walking my dog. I was doing doing an exercise, actually, a walking meditation exercise. I'm a I'm a blade of grass here, a blade of grass there, a leaf here, a leaf there, a butterfly here, a butterfly there, never the same thing twice, changing, shifting, doing this walking meditation. And I was walking my girlfriend's dog, and it was a blue bean. Uh they were weren't totally phased into this reality, but I can I can see the all their form, the bipedal form, the hands, the feet, and everything. And the dog just went flat on the sidewalk, just refused to move.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

And we just I got I got pictures of them, and people don't believe me until they see that. They go, Oh, oh, no, you know, they don't they don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

Yeah, I I I have a lot of pictures, but they show up as orbs. They they show up as orbs. I have many pictures on my phone. They're flying around my room. And it's like, stay still for a minute so I can get a picture because they just move around so fast.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Yeah, so many orbs. I had cameras in the house. It looked like it was snowing in the house. Yeah, I ain't got that kind of mugs in the house. I mean, come on. You know, they're everywhere, they're moving around like you know. Guys, get your own place, you know? Get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 50:37

No, Jeff, why don't you understand that you're part of them? Just like John is a part of his group, it's implied and it's part of the soul agreement, it's part of the connection.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Well, the one thing has I found is that they don't they don't they don't share the same boundaries that we have because uh the the bathroom seems to be a place that they like to come through a lot, especially when you're in the shower.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

And that's the water, that's why the water and the frequency of the water, yeah, how many water.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

I had a little portal. There it was like a week, maybe a week and a half period where I I had this little portal open up. It was just like this black void space, and you couldn't see through it, but these blue orbs started like coming through this little portal into my bathroom, and I I realized it was part of my Syrian star family. And one thing I realized that we have a lot of these different star connections, not just to one nation, but but the Syrian beans started coming through, mainly my children, my Syrian children. And um but yeah, they would come through that that portal, and that that's when I saw the other blue bean. I was I was watching a show actually on ET stuff on uh Guy M TV, and I felt a presence. And when I um looked over, I saw this blue female bean standing there, and I think she was a little shocked that I saw her.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

And uh all right, let's just stop here because you just move in a new direction again. So let's come back. No, it's just that we were in a beautiful flow, and then you introduced a branch we we want to explore. What about the Syrian hybrid children? What what is this about? Can you tell us about what is that connection, how this this happened?

SPEAKER_00 52:39

Well, I I took a channeling class, and then we were to partner up, and I had partnered up um with this one particular woman who reached out wanted to practice channeling, and it just so happened that we started connecting to our uh Syrian star roots, and that's when a lot of my kids started showing up, and that's when the communication started coming through from some of my Syrian children, and that's when a lot of the visitations and stuff from them started as well. I would feel them in my room at night at the bottom of my bed. They started coming through this little portal in my bathroom. Um, a lot of times when I was in the shower, I I've had many incidences with them, but it started through through that channeling.

SPEAKER_02 53:31

So I can appreciate this class or this so-called training simply reawaken those natural abilities in you, and you start to understand that you have Syrian children. What makes them hybrid? Or is it because they were already Syrian from a lifetime, or is it in this lifetime that you conceive them with a Syrians? So, what's the connection within the word hybrid and their Syrian children here?

SPEAKER_00 54:00

Well, I know that they shared my with my Syrian kids, I know that they share genetic material, genetic. Yes, I believe so.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

You believe so?

SPEAKER_00 54:10

I don't fully fully um understand how that actually is. They just refer to themselves as my kids.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

Okay, your children.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Okay, but I know I know that there was genetic exchange that actually happened with those children.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

Okay, beautiful. Do you have any memory of that share of gene pool or genetic material?

SPEAKER_00 54:37

I I do not. Okay, I do not. Um I I did have a I did have an interesting uh experience with one of my Syrian children, though. Uh his name is Anulie. Uh, he's he's a teen. And um I had went to the store, I was repairing a microphone, and I needed uh needed some parts, so I ran down the electronic store and I was on my way back home pulling up one of the side streets where I lived, and I noticed that there was a bright light low on the horizon that caught my attention. And it's like, what the heck is that? Because it was the light was so bright, it was almost blinding to look at, even though that it was off in the distance. And the moment that I said, What the heck is that? In a blink of an eye, it was along the driver's side of my car. There was an electric substation on on the left side of the street, and the craft was just above those electrical lines. I'd speed up, it's speed up, I'd slow down, it's it'd slow down. And so I got out, I got a little footage of it. I can send it to you later. It's not the greatest, but I have a little footage of it. I was able to videotape it. And um anyway, I noticed that when it accelerated and took off, it hovered on the other side of the I5 freeway here in California, and then it descended, and it looked like it landed. And I was like, that's really weird. It looks like it landed. So I went on Google Earth. I wanted to see what was on the other side of the highway, and it was just mountains. And later I ended up just discovering is that Anulli was on the ship with his uh girlfriend, and evidently, I guess the children on their planet are very much like ours. You know, they still kind of get in their mischief. And the flora and fauna, the way that was made for me to understand, is a little different uh on their planet. And she wanted to get out and explore the flora and fauna on our planet, so he broke protocol. They weren't supposed to land the ship. He broke protocol, landed the ship, let her get out. And uh later on, um, you know, during the channeling session, I asked us, so why did why did they land the ship? And it was like dead silent, dead silence. Oh, well, we didn't realize they did that. We're gonna have to talk to him about that. And so when I connected again, you know, he got in a little trouble, not trouble like you know, we would think of trouble. And a little later on, uh an individual I was dating was teaching a channeling class and asked if I would come in and ask questions of their advanced students. And Anoulie came through. And I was asked the question, Do you do you have children? You have a son? I said, Yes, I'm but off-world. And they go, Yes. And um well, he said, he's saying, 'Well, thanks a lot, dad, for getting me in trouble.' She goes, 'I don't understand, I don't understand the message.' So, but he's just coming in to say hello. So, but they they do show up quite a bit. I do feel them around me a lot.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

So incredible. It it must enrich your life so much, you know, having them around in such a conscious way and interactive way as well.

SPEAKER_00 58:04

They're they're a big part of my life. They're a big part of my life, and uh I'm looking forward to, you know, that time that we have open contact where you know, where I can actually be physically present with them um in a more physical way. I mean, yes, we do spend time up on the ships and things like that, but I'm looking more for the open contact when our brothers and sisters can walk openly amongst us in in love.

SPEAKER_02 58:37

Well, contact is already unfolding. First, we have to recognize all the star seeds, the hybrids, and those of us who already boots on the ground with you. So let's just recognize that first and recognizing everyone without any fear of barriers or filters or mental manipulation about your natural galactic origins, human beings, galactic origins. And then the aspect of what you call physical contact will simply be very, very natural, just like the aboriginal tribe or the indigenous tribe from their oral traditions talks about the grandfather and the grandmothers welcoming the star beings. So it's always been a reality already implemented. I think that we need to redefine or reframing, like you said earlier, the reality of how we perceive physicality.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

I I would agree. I I was just uh I just came back off the mountain Friday. Uh I'm up in Washington here now. I was up at Mount Adams, and it's a very active area.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:46

So yeah, that there was a lot of craft up there on Friday. Well, they just come right out of the earth there.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

Yeah, some some yeah, some are from the inner earth or the oceans, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

Yeah, I got video of some just coming right out of the earth, right out of the forest.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:07

Speaking of which, I know you shared two photographs of some of the craft that you encounter. I'll show the first one, and then if you want to share a little bit about this, when and how this was taken.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

That was at uh a homecoming game at my son's high school in Dana Point. You can see in the top of the building it says home of the dolphins. Dolphins are their mascot. And I I was there with my friend, a female friend, whose son was best friends with my son. And so we would do a lot of things together. And she brought along a friend with her that day, Lisa. And Lynn knew I was having a lot of contact experiences and sightings, and she had just nonchalantly said something to Lisa, and Lisa started asking me questions, and I had shared that experience with Anoulli when they followed me in the ship down the street, and I said, I just never know when they're gonna show up. Well, within 15 minutes of having that conversation, here they are. But there was it was sold out, both sides of the bleachers were sold out for this game. I did not physically see this craft, no one did. But they were shooting off fireworks, I just happened to be taking pictures. It wasn't until about a week later I was watching a program and I literally got a telepathic message in my head to go back and look at your pictures. So I went back and I knew there was something in there. I went back and looked at my pictures that I had taken, and that's when I saw the craft in the pictures. For some reason they were cloaked, they weren't visible to the eye, but they were to the camera. So I contacted the school and I said, I had taken some pictures at the homecoming game, and I had recorded a couple unusual objects. Uh, I didn't say what I thought they were. And uh I asked if anybody had reported anything, and they said no, and they started to inquire more deeply about it. They said, Well, it has to do with the safety of the children, these things concern us. Is there any way you can bring in the photos? So I went in and I showed them the photos. They knew nothing about it, no one had reported anything, but they did show up in my photo after explaining to Lisa. I just never know when they're gonna show up. And I just feel like it was kind of their little joke that we're always here to let me know that they're here. I think that's why they presented themselves that way. I think they were quilt so that not to create a reaction or fear, maybe from people that might have seen them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:55

True. A very good point. So are we looking at is it the kind of the gold spot or the big bright?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:04

It almost looks like a teacup with a big round white light underneath it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

Yeah, I see for me, it looks like a bell.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:11

Yeah, I don't know if there's any way to enlarge it, but yeah, if you look, it's just uh it's it's an interesting, interesting shape. I've never seen anything like it. I've seen a lot of different craft, but nothing like that before.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Interesting, that's incredible. And then there was another instance. Can you share another picture? Let me show that. What about this one? When that was taken.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:34

That was within the same time, but just you know, probably moments later, but now there's two in the photo.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:40

Okay. Two different craft.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

I just sent you those two, but I had taken other snapshots and they're in different places. Uh, that the one up top, the one that kind of looks a little greenish color uh with the light underneath. It it appeared in different spots. It was above the fireworks, below the building. I just sent you just those the those two photos just uh for reference.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

That one is particularly incredible because in the first one it seems to be only cr one craft, and in this one, there's two distant crafts.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:11

Yeah. So that I mean, to me, that was just their way of letting me know. I mean, I've I've just had so many experiences um with them. Uh, I used to go with my son in my backyard. I had military gen three night vision, and I would just sit in my backyard and and at first it would just be one here, one there. But then when I started doing and initiating, you know, CE5 protocols and open contact, they just started coming on a nightly basis. They they knew before I even stepped out of my home what I was gonna do, and they would just show up. And so what we did is we had purchased two uh two pieces of mill uh night vision equipment, one monocular where we were able to attach video equipment to it to film as well. But it just that's it just started building when I when I set the desire to have contact with my star brothers and sisters.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

Beautiful. Yeah, it's all about consciousness, connecting to another consciousness, not the craft, but the consciousness of it, and I and it's very much that part of connection, making contact. Jeff, feedback, comments about the picture we just saw or anything?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

Um actually, you know, that's um when you see those crafts on an angle, that's quite common. Uh that that's probably a real craft. You know, they're they they don't they're they're not level, they're always around an angle.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:46

You mean let's bring it again. You mean the two here? The top one?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

Yeah.

unknown 1:05:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:54

So it's not perfectly right, it's on an angle.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:57

They're always around even the ones that I've seen physically. Shoot up like that and move around quickly, they always have to be tilted. Um, it's probably something to do with magnetism or gravity or something. But uh they always have to be tilted.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:14

What surprised me about these, Jeff, is because I've taken a lot of photos, and there always seems to be, at least with the photos I've taken, there always seems to be some kind of field around them.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:27

Well, I'm sure if we had take that through a couple of filters, we can we can we can dig it out. We can see the there's always some sort of an ion around it, you know, ion field.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

And these didn't, but the thing is, what was interesting about these, they were not visible to the naked eye. No one saw them, including myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

I just you know to the shutter speed of the camera, they were there.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

This was actually taken from my iPhone.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

Yeah, same difference.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:00

Yeah. Well, I didn't have no elaborate cameras, but I was getting at just a plain iPhone, nothing fancy.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:09

Well, oftentimes when they when our star families or star groups really want to make a connection with you, like in that particular moment of a you know, a game, a sport game, where people are more like focused, their energy, they're feeling the game. They're not feeling what's happening around them. And it's often just with even cell phone devices that if they really want to show up, they will. And that's why that moment you took that picture, it didn't seem like much at first, and it shows up later on on photograph. It usually works that way. It's it's incredible.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:49

I love it. I I absolutely love it. Just it to me, it's just a reminder of the infinite connection to all that is that we are.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:02

Most definitely, most definitely. And thank you for sharing those photographs with us today, John.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

You're very, very welcome.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:10

You know, I was monitoring in the chat room, and it's so much energy, and some of some time the questions people have is you know, even though we understand we're multidimensional beings, and you know, there's the galactics and earth changes, people have done experienced low frequencies or feeling down or feeling emotionally reclused or, you know, uh shut down, and then they experienced expansion based on your experience, even as a healer, working with people, connecting with the star people. What would you share or in terms of practices or maybe tools to help people maybe to stabilize their frequencies, to feel like they don't have to go so high and so low? You know, what what would be a way to bring about you know more stability stability?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:02

The ability to allow yourself to feel what I experience in my life, and I've seen with so many others, we've been taught not to feel, to push the feelings away. And it's okay to have a good cry or even lay on the ground and pound your fist or scream or whatever you need to do. But allow yourself to feel the emotion that you're feeling, not don't try to repress it because if we repress it, whatever that is that we're feeling, it will just circle around again. That's why I call circular time. It's gonna come around again at a different point in time on that spiral with maybe somebody else or a different situation. And just allow yourself to feel it, not necessarily to relive the experience, but to feel the energy of what was experienced. And that energy basically wants to have its day, is the way I look at it. And so if we can allow ourselves to feel that energy, it will move because change is the only constant. But if if we're pushing against it, like a spring against a wall, we're just creating more resistance, more resistance, and it gets stronger and stronger and stronger. So if we can allow ourselves to feel it, is the big thing. And then what really worked for me, even when I went through some really challenging times, and I still have them. I don't want to create this big illusion that I don't have challenges. I I still face challenges like everyone else does, but it's how I walk through them, is different. And I would say to myself, and but not just say, but feel it, is like I may not understand what's going on, but I understand that everything is happening for my highest good. And I I surrender into the knowing that everything is for my own divine perfection and is moving me into a more centered space. And I allow this energy, whatever it is, to show me whatever it is that I need to see that's going to allow me to take the next step forward that I that I need to take. But this energy is here because it's showing me something that I need to see that's going to allow me to even go forward. So, what sometimes feels like stepping back is actually the fuel that you need to release something that that is out of alignment with our true nature, which is that feeling of love, excitement, joy, passion, and take a look at that and integrate it and move forward as that new person. And then when it comes back, if it does come back and we get an echo of that, simply step back and remember, no, this is what I choose. I choose this. No, thank you. I appreciate the opportunity, but I am now choosing to to walk in a different path. But thank you for what you've shown me. So I think love and appreciation and gratitude for the things that we're going through is uh really important because if we realize that everything is just being reflected back to us, the more that we can play with things and give things uh uh a joyful or a playful meaning, then it will come back to us more in a playful way instead of like, oh, not this thing again. Here we go again.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:25

Here we go again, exactly. Exactly. And the more we would you say, John, the more we release ourselves from you know heavy belief systems, grief, anger, stress, anxiety, and anything that comes from the lower instinctual mind, it really allowed to remove, so to speak, to dissipate the veil around ourselves and to be able to see that in reality we're always interconnected. It's just it prevents that connections to unfold clearly.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:01

Absolutely, Vivian, because I look at it as everything is already here right now. We're not adding anything to existence or creation, it everything already exists, but it's existing in its own frequency domain. So even when we talk about manifestation, it can be like this play on words a little bit, right? Because somebody can think or we can think that we're creating something out of nothing. But what we're doing, we're just aligning with the frequency of what already exists. And then when we stabilize the frequency and of that potential, then it's able to crystallize into physical form and become part of our experience. So that's why I go back to what I was saying that the relationship that's most important is the relationship with ourself, the unconditional love for the self, which aligns us with our our true core signature vibration, which then allows those higher frequencies to um be dominant in our life, the things that we prefer to experience. But it's a process, it's not gonna happen over and overnight. It could, because that's just a belief. It could, yes. But but also, you know, we're here to experience process. That's part of the you know, experience that we chose to experience the process of the unfolding unfolding in a linear fashion, even though it's all existing. We're just choosing slices of the infinite now to lock on to.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:33

Apparently so, yes, not for the pain of heart, like I said, still. Oh my goodness, absolutely. Thank you so much for this one. It was beautiful, absolutely beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:43

Welcome, Jeff.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:44

You're most welcome. You are very welcome. I mean, Jeff, any questions, follow-up? Are we about about 15 minutes less left already going back so quickly? So, Jeff, I want to give you a chance to maybe ask questions, comments, or yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:00

Um, you're um um quantum healing that that you do. Um, can you describe that real real quick in a couple sentences?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:12

Yes. Because of my empathic abilities and understanding that everything is all connected and nothing is separate, because I can feel at the level that I can feel when I set the intention to connect with another, I feel that person as if I was them, and then I go and I clear that energy within me and it's clearing them. If that makes sense. Connecting in the field.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:39

Okay, well, um, another question that leads from that is um I don't know if you know about superpositioning with the quantum field.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:48

If if you were to do a healing on me, would that affect the other me elsewhere?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:55

It it it affects everything. And the way I look at superposition is I look I look at everything as fields. So when we talk about an electron field, it's a whole field, right? This is why you know it we can affect this supposed this electron halfway across the universe in here. It's because it's one universal field, so everything is ultimately interconnected. So any change is a total change everywhere and every win. So as soon as we change anything, it changes the reconfiguration everywhere and every when.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:29

So I can help my my other self by getting a quantum healing here, basically.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:34

Absolutely. We're doing it all the time because all these lives they're interconnected with each other. So just as you're sending information to your other parallel aspects, they're also sending information to you. So it'd be like, for instance, let's just say that you're going through uh a big challenging uh situation and you don't know how you're going to resolve it. And then all of a sudden you have this piece that overcomes you, and you were struggling with this, and all of a sudden you it's like you just know everything's gonna be okay. Well, where did it come from? It could have come from another parallel aspect that already found the solution to that, and it's being downloaded into your subconscious mind and is eventually making its way into the conscious mind, but not fully integrated. And so this goes all different ways. You to them, them to you. As you're as you're increasing your light, they're also having experiences, even if you want to consider them to see be very past, say, 1800s, where they don't have technology, but they feel like there's some angelic source that's intervening on their behalf, but that's you.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:39

So you would consider that as an aha moment.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:42

Yes, yeah, absolutely. You can label that as an aha, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:47

Interesting, very well.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:49

Very, very good points and question, Jeff, which leads to a wonderful question in the audience for you, John. Um, do impats take on the burdens of others without even realizing it? And if so, are they healing them?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:07

That that is a big resounding yes. And it's a challenge, that is a big challenge for impasse. And what I would say it's also not our responsibility to take on others' energy. That is that has been my own discernment, right? That doesn't mean that we can't help, but it's learning to have clear boundaries within self that we're not here to fix something. In other words, in a sense, we can say that nothing is broken, right? But we can be assistants, uh, and but it does take having clear boundaries with ourselves, and it does take some navigating to to be able to do that. It's it's been a huge challenge in my life. So it's it's probably been my biggest challenge that I've had since I was a little kid. I didn't have anybody to teach me, and I've I've always been super empathic. And so you can go to a supermarket, and because you want to help everyone, you can easily take on other people's energy unknowingly to you. So it's really important, I think, as an empath to clear your energy daily.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:18

Really good point to clear, monitor your energy daily. We always say, where are you right now? Connect, feel, read. Now, I want to touch up on something that you and I collaborated recently. You are the creator of a wonderful series called ETs Among Us. Can you tell us a little bit more about it?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:41

Yes, it's a symposium series uh that I felt really excited to create, and that's about our brothers and sisters. I know we use the word ET, you know, it makes makes uh seem a little distance, but basically they're all our brothers and sisters. And it's really about putting out a positive message, the positive messages that aren't being told about our heritage and returning back into the greater family that we are, and walking alongside each other, because when we come together, from my my personal point of view, is then we can even have greater creations and greater collaborations. And so it's really about getting this message out that we're family and there's nothing really here to be uh fearful about. And I want to deliver more of a pop positive perspective on what this means for humanity with uh ET contact, you know, on our doorstep right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:47

Absolutely one wonderfully said. I mean, ET contact has been unfolding for eons, it's been millennia of contact because you understanding just the genetic pool, the markers in the DNA human template, it's filled with these markers. Well, I love how you bring in for me that powerful two words, two frequency orders, greater collaboration. And I think that of a part of your symposium series, bring that energy of that greater collaboration. And I love that what you bring in. This is this is what we're moving into. This is part of our future unfolding in the now, right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:32

It's very exciting, very exciting because we all have gifts, and I know often from the human perspective there's can be this tendency, like, well, what am I to offer? Or we look at them as gods, or they're gonna come down and save us. But the thing is, we have our own unique perspective, we have our own unique things to share with them as well, so it's not just a one-way thing, it's it's this beautiful collaboration where we actually become more together and we can create more beautiful things, different creations, explore things that wouldn't have been possible if we were to try to do it on our own, or if they tried to do it on their own. It just opens us up for so much more. And I just see our future as just being so bright as we move out into the cosmos with our brothers and sisters side by side. It's I I didn't wasn't sure I was gonna see this in my lifetime, but it's been my dream my entire life. And now I see that it's right here, right now, and I realize that I'm gonna get to see it in my lifetime before I leave this planet.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:44

Exactly. Before your your journey is complete on this planet and you return into you know higher state or other state. It's so absolutely true. It's unfolding right now. It's thanks to all of us. As a kind reminder, everyone, all the details of today's episode is in the description, including links. You can always look back to the description. Everything is there. Jeff, as we're wrapping up today, incredible journey together. You have any uh last word, last questions, comments, feedback for our incredible guests today.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

Oh man, we can go on and on, but no, I think I'm okay right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:26

Good observation. We could go on and on. We today, right? We're just beyond time and space. We went like completely out in the universe and and beyond. Um, it's been absolutely incredible just to listen to your journey, even from a child perspective, the questioning you had, the relationship with your grandfather. Um, one thing that one last thing, if I may, John, and it came from the audience. When you talk about the relationship you've been cultivating with your grandfather as a guide who has returned to the realm of light a long time ago, wouldn't you say that our loved ones who passed on are still part of that multidimensional aspect or part of that universal aspect of themselves as they are with us? Somebody was asking about this.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:22

Absolutely. Absolutely. They they remain, think of them as a frequency, right? So even though that the physical body is no longer here, they're still existing in that frequency. It is a higher frequency. The the way I liken it too is if we think of the physical vessel and trying to pack Hoover Dam into the physical vessel, and like a trash compactor, and we're trying to you know fit in there, and then all of a sudden we release the physical vehicle and then we expand into more of our true essence, our our divine, our divine self. And so we have a much larger perspective and we're operating on a higher frequency. So we don't necessarily see those departed loved ones, but they're still there. So when we think of them or we have a memory of them, that is a very good indication that they're around you, they're with you. And the more that you can realize that energy cannot be created or destroyed, that it does change form, that because we exist, we'll always exist. And you can tap into that and know that those loved ones are there. And you call upon them, they will come. They will come. Think of it like a muscle. You go to the gym and you want to be a bodybuilder. You don't become this bodybuilder overnight. It takes a little practice to build those muscles. Same thing with this. I considered myself the person that couldn't meditate. And people ask me, What do you see? I don't see anything. So I had to practice, I had to practice a lot. And then I started seeing things, and then more and more and more start to come. So it's like a muscle. So if you really have that inspiration to connect, and you just make it part of your practice, even if it's five, 10, 15 minutes a day, you set a little time aside and you practice and set the intention, pay attention. You'll see sign symbols. It might may not come in the moment, it might come through a radio program or a billboard sign or a fortune cookie or some message somebody gets you, but it'll be something that maybe that loved one would have said to you that would have been just very personal to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:28

Yeah, now the Ponty always told me that we're just a thought away.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:33

Yeah, it was very true from my experience. Yeah, I I would definitely agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:39

Yeah, incredible. It's so true. It's just a beautiful reminder of how much we are all interconnected with our and we exist at different density, and our here feels everything feels so dense and grounded and it engaged you in your senses, but it's just a matter of different density, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:00

Yeah, it's a very real, like feeling holographic projection. And yes, when we step out in front of a bus, we're gonna get ran over and this life will expire, you know. But it's just a dream that we're dreaming of ourselves from from the soul-level reality. So dream the dream the way that you want to dream the dream, awaken in the dream.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:24

It's so true. Oh my goodness. On behalf of Jeff and I and everyone and the infinite instar connections, thank you so much, John, for being an incredible person, a human being, connectors. Thank you for your gifts, what you brought us just today during this incredible episode. So I'm gonna invite everyone to go back to the replay and listen again, feel, extract the nuggets of wisdom, reminder, reassurance, guidance that you need to receive. And the presence of John and so many of us together. And for those of you who've been tuning in throughout the entire program of episode, I mean, thank you so much for bringing your love, your questions, your curiosity. That's what makes this podcast so unique and interactive and very much experiential. John, a big thank you for your time and your wisdom today.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:22

Thank you, Vivian and Jeff. Thank you for your unconditional love. It was my absolute pleasure to be with you here and your beautiful listening audience today. And uh just wishing everyone a blessed day and just know that you are this divine light and just follow your heart. It will never lead you astray.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:45

And so it is. As a reminder, all the description, all everything, all the links are in today's episode description. You can look, click on the links, explore, and follow your heart, like John just mentioned. Much love, everyone. Stay in your light. We'll be back for the next episode with an incredible lady, uh, a book author. She's been to the most deep crystal cave in the world, places to where physically it would be almost impossible to sustain. And she has discovered incredible form of information experience. We're going to take a deep dive in her world next time. So, in the meantime, John, thank you again. Jeff, my friend, as always, and all of you around the world, listen to your heart and stay in your light. We'll see you next time.