{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":0.76,"endTime":3.87,"body":"Welcome back to the FOcus B show."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":3.982,"endTime":8.598,"body":"This is Katie Stoddart here, aka the Focus B."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":8.726,"endTime":14.838,"body":"And on this show, I interview high performers"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":8.726,"endTime":14.838,"body":"and leaders around the world to discover their"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":14.886,"endTime":20.83,"body":"secrets on peak performance, productivity,"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":14.886,"endTime":20.83,"body":"mindfulness and leadership."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":20.942,"endTime":26.662,"body":"So if you want to take your performance and"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":20.942,"endTime":26.662,"body":"your leadership to the next level, then you're"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":26.718,"endTime":28.43,"body":"in the right 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me."},{"speaker":"Marco","startTime":2495.342,"endTime":2495.734,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Marco","startTime":2495.774,"endTime":2496.794,"body":"Thank you, Kathy."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2501.214,"endTime":2505.718,"body":"Thank you so much for tuning in today"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2501.214,"endTime":2505.718,"body":"to the Focusbee show."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2505.886,"endTime":2509.374,"body":"I would absolutely love to hear your feedback."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2509.454,"endTime":2512.374,"body":"So let me know in an Apple review or YouTube"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2512.414,"endTime":2515.842,"body":"comment what was was most valuable for you."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2515.978,"endTime":2518.61,"body":"And feel free to share this episode with a"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2518.642,"endTime":2520.794,"body":"friend or a family member."},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2520.954,"endTime":2524.514,"body":"Wishing you a wonderful, magical, and focused"},{"speaker":"Katie","startTime":2524.554,"endTime":2525.034,"body":"day ahead."}]}