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As"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2248.2,"endTime":2252.34,"body":"you said, we know that we have"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2252.34,"endTime":2258.82,"body":"more to do and I want to be part"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2252.34,"endTime":2258.82,"body":"of that continued effort to"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2259.24,"endTime":2262.63,"body":"ensure that we are among the"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2259.24,"endTime":2262.63,"body":"best in our peer group on"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2262.63,"endTime":2267.67,"body":"corporate responsibility and on"},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2262.63,"endTime":2267.67,"body":"ESG. 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From the passion"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2280.57,"endTime":2284.53,"body":"for all things international,"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2280.57,"endTime":2284.53,"body":"here you are really impacting"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2284.53,"endTime":2289.6,"body":"the globe. Thank you, Marcia, or"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2284.53,"endTime":2289.6,"body":"should I say Dr. Marcia, unique"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2289.6,"endTime":2291.37,"body":"contribution, Balisciano."},{"speaker":"Marcia Balisciano","startTime":2292.76,"endTime":2293.84,"body":"Thank you YS."},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2294.35,"endTime":2297.14,"body":"Thank you also to our"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2294.35,"endTime":2297.14,"body":"listeners for tuning in. Don't"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2297.14,"endTime":2300.8,"body":"forget to hit subscribe on your"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2297.14,"endTime":2300.8,"body":"podcast app to get new episodes"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2300.8,"endTime":2303.77,"body":"as soon as they're released. And"},{"speaker":"YS Chi","startTime":2300.8,"endTime":2303.77,"body":"thank you for listening."}]}