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Sourdough or Death: The Pandemic Game Show!
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This week on The Top Guys Podcast, we take a trip back to one of the weirdest times in recent memory… and turn it into a full-blown game show.
Welcome to “Sourdough or Death: The Pandemic Game Show!”
Devon steps in as host and puts Omar and Chris to the test with questions pulled straight from peak pandemic culture—where the rules are loose, the scoring is questionable, and the answers are… debatable at best.
We get into:
- Sourdough starters, Tiger King, and the strangest viral moments
- The chaos of lockdown life and the stuff we all somehow experienced together
- Confusion over the rules (and whether there are rules)
- Competitive energy that may or may not be real
- And one of the most unserious “game shows” ever created
It’s part trivia, part nostalgia, and part complete nonsense.
If you lived through it, you’ll remember.
If you didn’t… honestly, this might be more accurate than anything else.
Sourdough… or death. Choose wisely.
We are the top guys! This should be entertaining.
SPEAKER_02We in there.
SPEAKER_04We're in there. We're recording. We're live. We are alive. Um we are live. So it was it's pretty great to be uh under President Biden's uh last time we came here.
SPEAKER_02Last time we bought it, yeah. That's that's legit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We could kind of do something like that. You know what? Let's roll it back and do something. Whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready.
SPEAKER_03It still has student loans.
SPEAKER_02There it is.
SPEAKER_04Alright, so you know the last time we actually did this, we had a whole nother president.
SPEAKER_02We did we did.
SPEAKER_04We did. We did. So it's been a minute. Um but welcome back. It's like we never left.
SPEAKER_02It is like we never left.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So, uh why don't we reintroduce ourselves?
SPEAKER_02Please. Please, sir.
SPEAKER_04Uh I am Devon. I am kinda the showrunner of this thing, I guess.
SPEAKER_01Promotion.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I I just I just I I I just come up with things.
SPEAKER_02You pay for everything.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm the quartermaster here. Um. Yeah. Uh I don't know what I'm trying to say. I'm Devon. Okay. Why don't you two introduce yourselves?
SPEAKER_02Please, Chris, please, sir.
SPEAKER_03Uh, I'm Chris, and I'm the one that single-handedly dragged both these divas back from the is mouth. And if they don't chuck the ring in this time, I will just throw both of them in the lava. I will. I will do it, and we will just have a Chris podcast. How about that?
SPEAKER_02Listen, that that is I respect all of that. He is. He's absolutely right. I I respect all of that.
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah. Uh, we don't need like season three of Omar Devon's drag race.
SPEAKER_02Wait, hey, wait. Let's be hasty now. That that might, you know.
SPEAKER_03I want to know which one of you is Alyssa Edwards and which one is Coco Montreat.
SPEAKER_04I'm Coco. I like the name Coco. I don't know. See, see, C C hater, right?
SPEAKER_02I can't why can't I be Coco? Go ahead, be Coco. I don't know. I'm gonna be Coco. And I would like to thank the X-Men 97 for allowing me to be Coco. Oh, yeah. Thank you. In fact, that's how I'm introduced. You know what?
SPEAKER_04I'm not doing that anymore. I've moved. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna continue to do it. I've moved on. I'm on X-Men 98 right now. Let the ace of bass flow through you.
SPEAKER_03Living in a happy night.
SPEAKER_04And then everybody's dead. Chris introduced himself?
SPEAKER_02I believe so as well.
SPEAKER_04Okay, then we all know who we are.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know what? Omar didn't introduce himself.
SPEAKER_02No, no, I said I was I said I was Coco. That's all right. Yeah, my gun, I'm Omar. In fact, let me say, you know, my name is uh Omar Mills. Oh, yeah. It's a pleasure to meet you all.
SPEAKER_01Come on, deep boys.
SPEAKER_02I need to know if it's then sure. All right. What are we doing today, sir?
SPEAKER_04What are we doing today? So, you know what? I had an idea, but then I didn't want to do that idea. So So no Avengers stuff. No Avengers Doomsday reactions. None of that's gonna happen. So I you know it it times have been kind of rough for some people, and I want to take you back to a Halcyon time called the pandemic. Okay when things were bad, but it was good for me because it was a time when y'all were federally mandated to leave me the hell alone. So let's run with that.
SPEAKER_00So what we're gonna do is we're gonna have a pandemic game show.
SPEAKER_04Some of the greater moments of the pandemic. Now, here are the rules. I'm gonna give you a moment, and you will have four choices. And whoever guesses the right one gets a point. The person with the most points, and there are seven questions. All right, actually, there's eight in case there's a tiebreaker, but you can't really do a tiebreaker with seven, but we'll figure it out. So that's what it is. Whoever and also the style points will be awarded.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02Well, listen, we're gonna do style points. The fact that Chris's screen name is Luke Cage's TR, which I'm just noticing. I think that he is in, you know, that should be worth a point right there. I feel like that's a good one.
SPEAKER_03I mean, it's also my lovely cardigan.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah? Yeah, you are. You are. It is lovely.
SPEAKER_04Black on, black on black.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_04All right. So are we ready for the first question? Please, sir. Pandemic question. I think. Okay. Number one. What food collectively became a go-to thing to make during the pandemic? Hold on. Here are your choices. A soups. B crystal meth. C sourdough. Or D pandemic pierogies.
SPEAKER_03One of these things is not like the other.
SPEAKER_04You need me to repeat this. I A two. B crystal meth. C sourdough. D pandemic pierogies. What food collectively became a go-to thing to make during the pandemic?
SPEAKER_02You coming on here?
SPEAKER_03I have so many questions.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I have I have questions. This is gonna dovetail on time.
SPEAKER_04I don't give a damn about your questions. I'm trying to get an answer. You see a shower or a villain. Question. Okay, I'll give I'll give you another clue. I'll give you another clue. If you had YouTube, you probably saw people doing this, and it was like, please stop. Listen, that could also be crystal meth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah, but this ain't breaking bad. So which one was it? A soups, b meth, c sourdough, D, pandemic pierogies. I just need someone to answer. That's okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, please.
SPEAKER_03I'm I I made soup one time for a very special person, so I'm gonna go A. Okay.
SPEAKER_02My feeling is sourdough, because you kind of eliminated. I was gonna go with Crystal Math just because I I wanted to.
SPEAKER_04But the sourdough is sourdough.
SPEAKER_02Okay, but but the sourdough I'm thinking is it's legal.
SPEAKER_04The answer is that C. Sourdough.
SPEAKER_02Sourdough, okay. Yeah. So we're tired at one then, because again, Chris was already up one nothing with Luke Cage's TR. Yeah. Fair cardigan.
SPEAKER_04White women's TikTok was on fire during the pandemic. Oh. All right. So that gives Omar one. Chris nothing. Okay. Okay. All right. Number two. 2020 experienced experienced a moment where we may have witnessed the world's worst parents in the world. This was a Netflix documentary. One man was allowed to plow through 80% of a family, including a father. So who? And this was an infamous quote, infamous quote. He needed relief. Alright. Was the answer? Was the answer A? A was the answer B. B. Was the answer C for C, and these are initials. Or was the answer D? Who needed relief? A, B, C, or D.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna need a little bit more than that.
SPEAKER_03You gave me letters on letters.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_03This is how he's obviously a firefest guy.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so there was a Netflix documentary where this guy let this this other guy into his family, and the guy literally seduced the guy's wife, the guy's daughter, and when he said when the guy and the other guy were taking a drive together, the guy who was driving said, I need some relief. And what Ro kind of helped him out, we'll say. I don't know what you were doing. You sure it was Netflix. This was on Netflix. You sure it wasn't on Netflix. I promise you. This sounds like Saltburn. We watched this thing, and when he said what had happened, I literally had to leave the room. And the guy's initials were either A, B, C, or D. And this isn't Saltburn. No. Sounds very much like Saltburn, but it's it sounds very much like Saltburn. You know, before that guy cheated on Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, I'm I'm just trying to get y'all to the to an answer.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say B.
SPEAKER_02Okay. It said B. I'm gonna say A. I'm totally guessing.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_02Chris wins.
unknownHey!
SPEAKER_02B I believe. What was what was B? What's what is the name?
SPEAKER_04I they never said his name, but he went by B. And what is the name of the show where the guy said, Well, B needed some relief. What show is this? Oh my god. I'm gonna have to look this up because I don't have order.
SPEAKER_03What is this game, Master Nantu?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, hey. You you you own one of the nights, or this is Top Guys Nights. Is this what is this what this is?
SPEAKER_03Return episode of Top Guys. Devon's House of Horrors.
SPEAKER_04You know what? It doesn't matter. I'll figure it out. And to me, it was one of those three the names of this thing. It was a 2017 true crime documentary that went to Netflix and got big. It had been on other platforms before, but it blew up on Netflix during the pandemic. It was called Abducted in Plain Sight, aka Forever B. Alright. Okay.
SPEAKER_03One to one, Omar. Congratulations. My worst opponent. Yes. In the Laugh Olympics, whatever the hell's going on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly what it is. Please, sir. All right.
SPEAKER_04So, number three. Also, during the pandemic, there was another viral Netflix show. I can't tell you what the name of it is. But it was about a very flamboyant person. And one of his lines in this thing was, I will never financially recover from this. Who will never financially recover from this? Is this not Tiger King?
SPEAKER_02That's what I was thinking. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, I if you would have let me say ABC. We're throwing that out then. Because obviously, they don't they don't recognize format. These guys have no kings, no masters. They're just doing what they want to do.
SPEAKER_02Hey, so since Chris said it first, man, I'd point to him.
SPEAKER_04All right. I don't think you both deserve anything for that. But I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. Chris is up.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah, Omar. It's the chaos forever.
SPEAKER_04All right. Okay. We will.
SPEAKER_03Okay, Omar, look at me. Look at me. We're gonna wait for all the answers to be given. No matter, no matter if we know the answer. Agreed?
SPEAKER_02Agreed, sir.
SPEAKER_03Okay. All right. All right. Let's go, mom.
SPEAKER_04All right. On an August 3rd, 2021 edition of Versus. It was one of the first to actually have a crowd post-pandemic. This rapper was outside. Was it A, Jadakus? Bow Wow. C Slender Man. Or D DMX. On the August 20, excuse me, August 3rd, 2021 edition of Versus. This man proudly proclaimed that we outside. You need me to re- Oh, Chris, I see your hand. I see your hand. That would be a Jada kiss. Jada kiss.
SPEAKER_00We outside.
SPEAKER_04I can't lie, I didn't expect you to know that.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna go with DMX, but then I had thought about it. I was like, wait, was he still alive?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, I wasn't sure. Yeah, I was like, is he trick question?
SPEAKER_04Slender Man, though. What? Slender Man. There's probably a rapper out there named Slender Man. I don't know. I know the cryptid. But I had to throw something in there. All right.
unknownAll right.
SPEAKER_04Flying through these. Alright. So Chris is up. Three to one. Three to one. Yeah. There's still a chance to tie this sucker, Omar.
SPEAKER_02Okay. All right. All right.
SPEAKER_03Cue the Batista music.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. If uh there's a tie, the winner gets one of these bottles of Oxycondon that I don't know what to do with. I need I need that.
SPEAKER_03Now, Devon, I'm going to need you to clarify why exactly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, bottles.
SPEAKER_03You have to mention your double Seth Rollins surgery.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. I've had two meniscus surgeries with it in 2025.
SPEAKER_03And that means Andaria WrestleMania match.
SPEAKER_04I've never been nominated for a slammy either. Nor did I get to kiss AJ Lee or Beckman. And yeah, uh so just bad knees all around for your boy. So when you leave the hospital, you get a gift basket full of multiple medications. Some of them are like just in case there's nausea, aspirin, and because hospitals love to prescribe stuff, they just send you off with a bunch of oxycontin. I am not touching that stuff because I have seen too many horror stories. I don't want to dump it down the the toilet because I don't need anybody tripping on my watch. So I literally just have two bottles of OxyContin just staring at me.
SPEAKER_02Hey man, you know my address.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna tell your mama.
SPEAKER_02Oh, come on, man. I know.
SPEAKER_04No, I got a phone number.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you do.
SPEAKER_04You do.
SPEAKER_02You do. Alright, I never said anything. Okay. You know we recorded it.
SPEAKER_03The lack of operational security.
SPEAKER_04Alright, next one. Also, let me remind everyone. Chris is up. Three to Omar's one. Who went viral through the misuse of adhesives as hair care products? Alright. The answers are A Edge and Booker T. B. Tyler Perry. C Pace Pot Pete. Or D Gorilla Glue Girl.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna say Gorilla Glue Girl just because that seems like it's on brand there.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yep. C the trapster. Deep cut. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02That's nice. Well, that's well done.
SPEAKER_04The weakest member of the Fatal Four. Yeah. Like literally just a guy with uh I got blue guns.
SPEAKER_03Fear me, Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and you used to fight the human torch on the regular. Like, just yeah. I mean, people just believe in yourself. You can if it make it if it does square off with me, and I got the power of the sun, and he's like, I'm pace pot Pete. I'm just gonna supernova. I'm gonna weld him to the street. Fire Lord versus Pace Pot Pete. Man, I'd pay for that.
SPEAKER_02I would also. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So please don't leave us in suspense. Who won that round? Who said? I can't remember. Who said it? Well, I said Trapster.
SPEAKER_02And I said gorilla glue girl.
SPEAKER_04Okay, you said gorilla glue girl. Yes, Omar won that round.
SPEAKER_02I survived.
SPEAKER_04I survive. So we chicanery. All right. Three to two. Chris is in the lead. Alright. Yeah. Two more to go. During the pandemic, the hood went crazy going doing a viral challenge. What was the hood climbing? A ladders. B mountains. C big girls. E. Crates.
SPEAKER_02I want to say big girls so badly.
SPEAKER_04I want this to be interesting. So I'm not gonna answer. Omar, you gotta you gotta say the right answer.
SPEAKER_02Alright, I believe it's crates that seems to ring a bell.
SPEAKER_04Yes, the hood with crates.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm like, I I vaguely remember that.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Dear listener, please ignore the fact that I'm throwing the contest.
SPEAKER_04This is for your listening entertainment. You're welcome. All right. I thank you. All right. Yeah, we are three to three.
SPEAKER_02Look at look at Chris selling for your boy. I know. You see that? I know. You see that? He didn't go into business for himself. He is the soul for me.
SPEAKER_04Here to show the world. It should have been him. It should have been him.
SPEAKER_03They must have forgot I'm him.
SPEAKER_04All right. Final question. What celebrity decided the best way to make the world feel better during the pandemic was to have a bunch of other celebrities sing John Lennon's Imagine on an effing Zoom call.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna stop you right there. Can I just take this one? Please take that. Oh, you don't even need it.
SPEAKER_02Good, please, sir.
SPEAKER_03Kalano. Right. It was like overnight the veil was lifted, and none of us liked her at all. Wonder Woman's terrible. No.
SPEAKER_04And oh the champagne in the Nile.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Like she's so she's so uniquely unqualified for the position that she has that you, you normal person, cannot do as bad of an impression to be accurate. There is a lady skill.
SPEAKER_04There is a lady on Instagram who does a killer Galgadot impersonation. Like it is so good. And she does like all these different scenes where she does them as Galgadot.
SPEAKER_02Uh please send me that. Okay, I will send it to you.
SPEAKER_01Max Lord, you are in grave danger. Give me the stone.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, I have a dry cough. Uh yeah, this is what we waited 18 months for. We're sorry, but we're also very glad to be back.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, indeed.
SPEAKER_04So yeah. So the winner with four. Chris Scott.
SPEAKER_02Chris Scott.
SPEAKER_04Hey now. That's right. He wins my admiration for knowing so much pandemic nonsense.
SPEAKER_02Listen, I'm impressed by the list of questions.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm impressed that we were able to discern some manner of method to this madness because you just started saying letters.
SPEAKER_02You did. You did just start saying letters. What? During the B? A, B, C, B, C, A, B, and I told you.
SPEAKER_04It was initials. Have you not heard of initials?
SPEAKER_02We have, but you know, there was there was no context. None of this card. Yeah, zero. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay. But we made it though. Are you calling number seven? Go to hell. So yeah. So long story short, if I would have been like, hey, did you see that movie seven? You two would be like, no, I didn't see one, two, three, four, or six, five. Maybe I saw that one. I don't know. Don't act like you didn't leave out critical information about the content. I'm saying this guy, his name was a initial. And I went A B.
SPEAKER_03Beyond the initial question. You said soups. You did say soups. Like how are we to discern a method to this?
SPEAKER_02Just I wish they could see your face. You notice that Devon has this, you know, how dare you question me.
SPEAKER_03Don't question dude.
SPEAKER_02Hello.
SPEAKER_03You're going in the basement.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. No, I like looked over here at like these like little smurf figurines over here, like they were gonna answer back. Like I was totally disassociating just now. I can't believe I'm having to go through this.
SPEAKER_02It is unfair.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, very unfair. All right, him, Devon. Do it. You waited 18 months for that. Was it everything you wanted? Are you satisfied? We know what love is.
SPEAKER_02Oh god.
SPEAKER_04Is there any business that we need to take care of before we go on? Yes.
SPEAKER_02Please, sir. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Omar, this is directed to you.
SPEAKER_02Yes, please.
SPEAKER_03A very special thing happened yesterday. A trailer was revealed. And I want to know what you think of it. Immediately.
SPEAKER_02Sir. I I I wept.
SPEAKER_04Damn right you did.
SPEAKER_02I legit cried my own tears. To quote Ric Flair with a tear in my Devon sent me that. I I had seen the teaser before the day before, and I was losing it on the teaser because I don't know if y'all caught this. The guy they had, whoever they had voice act the narrate the teaser, they put the echo on his voice. The same way they did for whoever voiced He-Man back in the day. And I was like, oh man, they got the echo. And then Devon sent me the trailer the next day, and he literally said in all caps, we back up with exclamation points. I clicked on that thing. And Chris, I quoted you on Facebook. I said, we have biblically accurate He-Man. And I mean I legit wept. I wept.
SPEAKER_03I'm so happy for you, man. That not only are you getting a He-Man movie, you Travis Knight is the one in charge of it. Now, would it have been better if there had been no involvement from Jared Leto? Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_03But but hey, they didn't lead with Jared Leto's in our movie, so we don't need to talk about it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You want to know a fun fact about Jared Leto? Is it fun? Yeah, could apparently at one point in time, Omar and I were in the same high school as Jared Leto. Oh. He went to Wilson? Yeah, he went to Wilson. Wait a minute. He did not finish. He he left in our junior year. Wait a minute. We were there with him. We were in the same building as Jarrett Leto. At the same time. At the same time. But he wasn't Jared Leto then.
SPEAKER_03Am I underestimating how old Jared Leto is?
SPEAKER_02I would not have guessed Jarrett Leto was. I thought he was significantly younger than us.
SPEAKER_04No, he's actually older than us. I don't know. I mean, what? I don't know what he's doing.
SPEAKER_02Man, that's some sorcery right there. I know.
SPEAKER_04That man is 54. Damn.
SPEAKER_02Damn. He is Skeletor.
SPEAKER_04Yep.
SPEAKER_02It's good casting. Yeah. Dude, you could have spotted me a hundred guesses. I would have never got that. That should have been like the eighth question. Yeah. On the pandemic.
SPEAKER_04Who went to school with your letters? Glad it ain't me.
SPEAKER_02Did I would have never known that.
SPEAKER_04Yep. Wow. You look at the our junior year yearbook. He is in there.
SPEAKER_03He's in there. Which is currently in the African American Smithsonian Museum right now. Their yearbook. You can find those on the happy floors.
SPEAKER_04It is there.
SPEAKER_02It is there. Oh my god. He's not wrong. Yeah. He's not wrong. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Please donate to your local Smithsonian.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Please, please.
SPEAKER_04Honestly, dude.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It helps us.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04No. We're sorry.
SPEAKER_03We're sorry to the one Jared Leto fan for making fun of how old he is.
unknownAlright.
SPEAKER_04I think it's cool that his face actually kind of looks like what Jared Leto's face would look like as a skull with the flesh mounted off. I think that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02Chris coming in hot, boy.
SPEAKER_04Alright.
SPEAKER_02Hot.
SPEAKER_04Uh like. No, you don't like, because this isn't YouTube. Um. Yeah, just like you. Yeah, what are we doing? Are they like share and subscribe? Like, share, and subscribe. Tell your mother, tell your tell your father, tell your cat, tell your dog. Watch it on whatever podcast medium you can that doesn't necessarily directly support terrorism. Um. Which a small list, I know, but you know, we appreciate what we appreciate.
SPEAKER_02Chris, do you want to do like an intro or something? Because we kind of just came in with stuff. Or are you good with how we just came in?
SPEAKER_03I mean, if the does Devon have a Rubik's Cube that he can like click clack around while he introduces the twists and turns out.
SPEAKER_02I might be able to fly those in if I can find the uh I can find the the sound effect. I can probably do that. Yeah, I can probably do that in post.
SPEAKER_04Let me see. Uh there's gotta be somebody on YouTube playing with yeah, we can figure it out.
SPEAKER_02We can get that in there.
SPEAKER_04And and Devon can do like a Jeff Goldblum and Ragnarok kind of thing.
SPEAKER_05Look at the terrors and turns that await these unwitting competitors. Sourdough or death.
SPEAKER_02That might be the name of this episode. Yeah. Oh, that actually is pretty good. That's that's that's fire. I like that. That's fire.
SPEAKER_05So death sourdough this top guys return episode extravaganza. Cake or doom.