Ep 234 - Old Grandad 7 BIB and Saz 125 Proof

Brandon and I in the den reviewing some whiskey.  We may or may not go off the rails a couple times on random topics.  But we review Old Gran Dad 7 BIB and Saz 125 in the process.

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SPEAKER_01 1:02

Welcome to the Bourbon Boys. We're back. And I'm here with my co-host Brandon again. What's going on, Bourbon Boys with the Z. In the mythical Bourbon Boys Den. We're back in the den. We have a little bit of an issue with uh water in the walls.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

We're all clear though. We're all dried out. We're we are operating, functional.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

I'm hoping uh I I got the gutters cleaned out. That was one of the things they said.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

When you start getting water in your basement, you check your grading, get your gutters cleaned out. Get the water away from the house.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Get the water away from the house.

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Got the gutters cleaned out, and the guy messaged me pictures of them, and he's like, You had an incredible amount of rocks and toys in your gutters. I was like, Yep, that stands a reason since the neighbors and my children throw rocks and toys on my roof.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

We're gonna have to cut that, cut down on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

I told I told the boys if they throw another rock or toy on my roof, they were paying $120 to get the gutters cleaned next time.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

So you're going financial.

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If they allow their friends to do it, then their friends aren't gonna be allowed in the backyard.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Well, the fan do the the friends don't have to pay. Oh, no, the friends, they we we can't make them pay. But do the boys have do the boys have to pay on behalf of their son?

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Yes, they gotta pay on behalf of their friends.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Gotcha.

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Or they're gonna have to work a lot.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

They're gonna pick a lot of dog shit up. Choose your friends wisely.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Yes. Choose your friends wisely.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Happens to the best of us. It happens. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

I guess all seven-year-olds are somewhat knuckleheads. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Alright, so what do we what are we drinking?

SPEAKER_00 2:29

I'm excited because uh new to the market, that old granddad uh seven-year bonded. I don't think it's even available in Wisconsin. I haven't seen it yet here uh on the shelf. We do we have had the bonded, but not the seven-year.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

I may have poured a little too heavy.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Yeah, that is a big boy pour right there. I like where your head's at. Uh I did uh tell Chad that I one of my favorite uh old granddad stats is that it is the official bourbon of my favorite Christmas movie, uh Bad Santa. He drinks it throughout the movie, obviously not a seven-year uh bonded product, um, that kind of thing. But just a low shelf. So I always, whenever I see the orange label, I think of my grandfather and um Billy Bob Thornton.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

And Billy Bob, man, that guy's found him a fountain of youth. Uh amazing. This movie, this show. It's a great show, but goodness gracious, he was obscure. He just keeps going. And he looks like he looks like somebody named Billy Bob. 100%. Especially in that show, always wearing dirty jeans. He definitely smoked Smarbros. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Yes. And drinks Old Grandad.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Drinks Old Grandad. Yes. Smokes Cowboy Killers. Correct. Yep. And is on a uh oil field. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

I gotta fly in here before I let the back door open to the dog. I mean, he was married to Angelina Jolie at one point. Like, I mean, he the man has had a great run. Had a vial of her blood around his neck or was her his blood around her neck?

SPEAKER_01 3:57

It was one or the other.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yeah, something. I think somebody gave some blood on her neck. Yeah. His blood was probably easier to get. Because she doesn't have blood? I don't know. I'm just saying, he he seems to be like, yeah, I'll give you some blood. Like she's like, no, absolutely not. Yeah, correct. Absolutely not. You're not touching me with a needle and having my blood. Oh, where he's like, here, just get it off the coffee table.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

I'm glad you added the having my blood thing because I was about to feel a lot of different ways. Correct. We already went that way once.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Angelina Jolie. Uh-oh. Now, still very hot.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

But back in the day, fire, smoke show.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yeah. Going in 60 seconds. Crazy. Yeah, she had a great run. She had a great run.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

She was so hot. You could tell she was just, that was like the chick that was a bad thing. Yeah, she doesn't take anything. Yeah, she don't take no. She was a bad influence on you. She was what gets you in trouble. Like stealing cars and stuff. Like she would get you to steal cars. Yeah. I would steal a car for Angelina Jolie and go in 60 seconds. You would take 60 seconds. Not now I wouldn't steal a car for it. I steal a pack of gum or something. Okay. I mean, I'd put it out there.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Car's a little much, so that's grand theft. Well, what kind of car? That's the question. Like, do you take ripping a minivan or like if she wants a high end and then you're out.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

But like she's like, can you get me a Toyota minivan? I'd be like, I know where there is one. Correct. Exactly. That's not grand theft at that point. That's just theft. Okay. I don't think. I don't know. I think it's like $3,000 for Toyota Sienna. Yeah, so we should be 20 2012, I think. Giving them away. Yeah. Giving them away. Yeah, they should. So we're doing what is the proof on this one? What is the do we know what the mash bill is? Do we know the mash bill?

SPEAKER_00 5:40

It's a beam. So bottle and bonds, and we got um just a hundred proof. Just a hundred proof. So it's coming down um distilled spring 2018 bottled 2025. Spring 25. Uh I don't really see anything on the air about mash bill. But uh the caramel comes, like it's to me, it's like classic bourbon. Right? Like it's it's not gonna wow you. I know you said you were drinking it as a mixer, and like that's a good probably good spot for it. I think retail is what, around 40? A little more. I think it was 35. 35, a little less, even. But you grabbed yours in Kentucky, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

I've taken them in Illinois and around 40, 45, so that's about I mean this was at Liquor Barn, so they sell everything for as well as they can, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

Yeah, just get it out of the barn, right? Just keep it moving. Just straight out of the barn. Just keep it moving.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

I had tons of buzzball displays in that store.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Business is booming.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Yeah, they're they're doing well. They're that close to Frankfurt though. They gotta keep Sazrak and Trace happy.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

Yeah, but I could I could see that. So what are your notes? Man, I to me it's like that over caramel and then almost like a slight vanilla on the back end.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

There's no alcohol on the nose. Correct. Like it's zero alcohol. There's no, it might not, it might be because it's been open so long. Sure. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

I mean, obviously, it is a lowerproof, too.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

If it's sitting in my garage, it is lowerproof.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

They're really selling it here. Let's pull it out. Is this the grill mixer? Yeah, is this a grill mixer? Like when I make I'm grilling up some brats, this is what I pull out, which would not be a bad time for it. You know, low proof. It's on the sweeter side. Summer's coming up. This is something I drink on the back patio, no problem. I wish Mother Nature would make her damn mind up over here. Welcome to Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

It was like 85 degrees. Shorts Thursday.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Little t-shirt outside.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Fry a little t-shirt. Yeah, I had my midi on. Yeah. And my midruff. Nice. I was just showing off the belly buttons. Yeah. I took my piercing out though. It was getting too tight. Well, you gotta clean it once in a while. Yeah, you gotta clean that lint out. Yeah. Um, to me, it's like you said, it's got a real nice flavor. And it's got decent legs for 100 proof. Seven-year-old bond old bond.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

For them 40 bucks, like that's you know. And I I I do like beam in general.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Like um, I'm trying to start a new thing for the for the reviews. Yeah. We gotta figure out a different way to say b bottle, bar, or bust, or pass.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

So buy?

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Yeah, buy, bottle, bust, whatever. The most of the podcasts use the same nomenclature. Okay. I was thinking smash or pass. Or eh.

unknown 8:42

No?

SPEAKER_00 8:42

You don't like that? Eh. What is your eh? Is that it's like okay. That's bar. Okay, what is like Smash is by and pass. You don't want anything to do with it? Nothing. What is like between eh and pass? There isn't.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

There's only three. Okay. You're breaking it down into like.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

There's you can't do four.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Russian judge. Russian judge. All right.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

No, there ain't no eight-minute abs. Uh seven minute abs.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

What do we do with the extra minute? Uh this is a this is a smash for me. Smash. Smash all day. Uh when you take everything into account, price point, availability. Uh this is a buy for me.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Do you like that name though? Do you like Smash Pass or eh? Or do you think something else?

SPEAKER_00 9:27

I think I've used those terms uh elsewhere, but not for bourbons. So like I can it go right to it, I guess. You know?

SPEAKER_01 9:33

All right, we can get it's a work in progress. Right. We'll use it for this and maybe come up with some better.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Yeah, no, no. I just have to remind myself the room that I'm in and what we're discussing at the time. And then so, yes, this would be a smash for me.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Okay. Call it Nikes or Keds. Nike's kids or Reeboks.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

But when I right? Like I that I could do all day. Right? Well, if if your mom gave you a Christmas gift of kids, you would be not happy.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Yeah, you were throwing those out the window.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Right, I'm not happy.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Or what was the one with the kangaroos on them? Kangaroos. Ruse.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Yeah, ruse. This ruse, yeah. Uh it's Walter Payton's shoe. What was it? Walter Payton, running back for the Bears.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

I used to sell a lot of Sauconese when I worked for uh Saucane's.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

They're coming back.

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Finish line.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Yeah, they're coming back. Uh Leisha and I were just in Michigan and she grabbed a pair from uh sneaker store called uh uh Premiere. They did a collaboration with Saucony.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Nice. I wish I had my uh Chutney Jordan. Yes, 13, the low.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

Yeah, with the little with like the like the plastic jump man, and he was like enameled. Like that was.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

People were fighting each other to get him finished line.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Just the black and chutney. Yeah, real simple.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

I think I traded in a pair of uh Air Forces for him. Mmm. Something. I traded in something. He used to trade shoes back in and get new ones all the time. Upper management job, yeah. I found them. You can't do those things. You remember when uh Patrick Ewing had the shoe with the gel in the heels?

SPEAKER_00 11:04

Yes. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

I found those and they were my size, and they were in the clearance section. They weren't on the shelf nowhere. They were like $13 by the time I got them.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Because they'd been there so long. And they're gone now, though. Oh yeah, those didn't last long. I played ball in those and jacked them up quick. Did you play like Pat Ewing when you wore them? Uh that was not my game.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

No. I was more of a uh You couldn't play like you were seven foot one.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Pick and pass guy.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Okay. He was not a pick and pop guy. No. No, he's uh he's back to the basket.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

There was no pop for me back then. It was just pass.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Like what's your range? Like 12 feet and then, 10 feet and then?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

When I was younger, that's what it was. I was shooting inside the big man.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Both hands? Left hand, right hand?

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Uh no, right hand.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Just right hand baby hooks? Yes. Baby hooks?

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Yeah, okay. Yep. Then I got older and I started shooting from outside and I was a dead eye. How good was your shot fake, though? It was pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Your shot fake was really good.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

You could probably really pivot too. Yep. Yep. Because you got to find ways to get to get it done. Yep. That old man basketball. There's no judgment. That's just like a You had to figure it out. I was not fast. A lot of guys in the league right now make a lot of money on their ability to pivot. Yep. Just be able to create space. I was never known for my quickness.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Did have good feet though.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Okay. No football, though. Yeah, I'll say no football. Yeah, you should have. Feet and hands. Yeah, like good feet, good hands, over six foot. Anything near three, play a little football.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Yep. I had some small college offers. Yeah. Yeah. Very small college. The Cumberlands. That's okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

I was like, no, I don't think I'm gonna beat my body up anymore. Right. I think that that's really what it comes down to. Is how much do I want to keep inflicting onto my body?

SPEAKER_01 12:50

How much is this college worth? So instead I went to junior college for about 10 years and then went to the house. Did you play any hoops? Any junior college hoops and then no. I didn't have that kind of uh athleticism to play junior college hoops.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Well, depending on where you are in the country, that may like you could be either really good or not real good. Our community college didn't have a hoops team. Got it. In Wisconsin they had a junior college league and then a couple of the schools have done away with it. So we'll see what happens. It wasn't worth their wasn't worth their money. Well, you know, uh some of those junior colleges like three, four hours away. Like, you know, so to play those games and all of a sudden they were playing on Saturdays and like four or five junior colleges would meet to play their games. This became too much. But uh interesting pickup. What's that?

SPEAKER_01 13:41

I was more of a pickup player.

SPEAKER_00 13:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

I'm still five. When's the last time you played? Uh did I not tell you this before? I played, I tried to play again like a year ago.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

A year ago, okay.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Maybe less than that. Maybe it was eight months ago. Okay. I played four or five times. I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. It's it's gonna get back into it. And my uh reaction time was terrible. So I was sober slow, I was and my knees hurt. So I was like, yeah, I think I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

I think you're done.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Yeah. I mean, who knows if I lose another 60 pounds.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

I was gonna say you're down some weight, so like it might make a difference.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

That's when I started doing it. Yep. So I mean, it I could do it, I just couldn't do it and feel good about what I was doing.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

So I think you're just transitioning to the next phase in your career when you get to that point where you're just saying, I'm out here for the cardio. You don't have to pass me the ball, I'll set you some screens. That's 100% what I was doing. Correct. I did not shoot, I play defense. The key is you got to find nine other guys that are on the same thing. Right? Because the problem is you get eight guys that want to do that, and then you get two guys playing like the NBA finals, right? And somebody gets hurt, right? Because I'm not diving on the floor, I'm not no, not doing it. Not today.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

Well, the the team the place I was playing, the the guy who emails the invite out calls it old man basketball. Perfect. Um, so there was a lot of old older gentlemen that were there. They weren't they weren't playing at the top level. Perfect. So it was a good place to play if my knees just get up and down a little bit. If my knees could remember that they're just mix it up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Just mix it up a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Yeah. So it's like I'll stick to the cardio machine at the gym.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

You can't get a bucket out of that thing, though. You can't get an assist.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Like that's why I quit playing football, is because I couldn't. I mean, I never get to touch the ball. Why am I playing this? I'm blocking for these people. They're getting all the glory.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Yeah, beat the hell up. I mean, I played with some great offensive linemen and know some great offensive linemen. They're usually great dudes. Yeah. They're usually great dudes, right? Well, they gotta be super smart. You gotta be smart and you gotta you gotta care about other people because you don't pick that job. No. Right? That's not the glamorous running back, quarterback. Correct. So I've always had a respect for those guys because you gotta you gotta swallow your pride a little bit. Uh you don't see a lot of people rocking offensive linemen jerseys. No. Once in a while, but not often. Chubby Chasers. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

See, that speaking of offensive linemen, the Packers uh drafted a offensive lineman from Kentucky.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Oh no. No, I'm kidding. What uh what give me some give me some intel? Like we're a big Packer fan, so what do you got for me? Uh what is he inside guy?

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Outside guy? Is he he played center hard? He played center as last year.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Uh because he had to.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

He's probably not huge.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

He's 6'5, 6'4, 6'3, somewhere in that range. Okay. He's a big dude, but he played guard, so he's he's not tackle hot size.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

But he, I mean, that's why he got drafted though, because he has versatility.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

He can play center. Yeah, yeah. If you can play center and and then ship the guard, like it's real hard to go from guard to center, but center to guard you can usually pull off. I played guard a lot. Okay. In the right in the mix of it. Yeah. Throwing punches. Yes. And you got all your teeth, so you must have been pretty good. That's what they make masks for. They didn't want me on the bottom of a whole lot of piles. You played in Kentucky. I don't, I don't know, man. I don't. We did play Kentucky. We've heard a lot of things. About maskless footballs. A little shot of bourbon. Alright, kids, here we go. Just rub it on your gums before you go out.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Numbs you a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

You want to win or not? Alright, so what are we getting into here next?

SPEAKER_01 17:32

So this one is we're we're taking it up a notch. We're moving over to the new Sazrak Rye 125 proof.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Which is all the buzz right now.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

All the cool kids. And if I watch one more uh video comparing uh Sazerac Foolproof to Thomas Handy, like I get it. It's a rye, it's Sazerac. Like, yep, get it. It's cast strength. Right, it's cash strength. Well, yeah, yada. But all that. But we get so I think people get caught up in all of that and like comparing things and rankings and numbering. Like to me, it's like just drink it, enjoy it. Like if you like Sazerac, you're gonna like this. If you like a little more pepper on it, you're gonna like it. I think Sazerak, regular Sazerac, rye 90 proof.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Is that 90 proof?

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Uh there's a 90 and a hundred. They do both.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Yeah, I knew the 100 was new, but their original was 90 proof.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

90.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

To me, that's always been very eh.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Yeah, right. Like, but I'm I want it in a cocktail.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Yeah, it's fine in a cocktail, right? You're not drinking it. There's no flavor to it. Correct. It's often tastes pretty young, especially for a rye whiskey.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Because most uh most as what six years?

SPEAKER_01 18:39

Yeah. Around six years. Yeah, the branch is around six.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

So I I think like it's smarter than them. Like it takes a little little effort to put this out from them. They're already barreling barreling it already, so might as well just turn it up because we already, as we've talked about numerous times, there's some people that are so proof-driven that like now that it's a 125, is it cooler to the to the masses? Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

It's definitely cooler to the masses, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:04

But all the social media stuff I see is like it's a handy killer and all that. I don't know about all that because I actually do enjoy Thomas Handy. It's not my favorite and all that, but like it's it's good.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

I think Thomas Handy's a little sweeter than this.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

I see that I think that's I think you're accurate. I think that it is a little more caramel with the rye as opposed to the Sazerac, which I get more rye straightforward.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Definitely spicier.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Correct. I get a little more pepper on it, which I do like, and I think blindly, I think I would honestly pick the Sazerac foolproof because of that peppiness to it.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Yeah. It makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

What do you think? The rye is nice on it, you know, and then once again, that bottle is what, 40 bucks? You know what I mean? 45 or 50? 45.50. I don't think anything under 50, that's a win.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

I mean, this I don't think this is available yet in Wisconsin. I can't I keep getting asked by my stores. Like, I haven't seen that it's gonna be available in Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Once again, Illinois. Illinois gets all the good shit. Well, we're closer to we're close enough, uh Milwaukee's close enough to to northern Illinois, to that Chicagoland market. Right? Because you get down to Southern Illinois, it's a little different story. But Chicago area gets just so much stuff. And then you look at like places like Benny's and and then the mom and pop shops, like it they got it rolling. Yep. You think do you think that's the most uh on your routes right now? Is that what you get asked about most? Is Sazerek foolproof?

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Oh, other than standard B tag. Yeah, the I Right. Yeah, that's probably it the most readily available thing is that I think people are starting to see Buffalo Trace more readily available on the shelf, uh, which is good for most people.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

What are your thoughts? Like, so on top of that, like we'd look at Sazerac trying like a barrel strength foolproof that like we're drinking right now, and then you see like uh Taylor Small Batch and Weller Special Reserve. Uh, we were just even in Illinois, um, they rolled out like a couple cases and just set out of those offerings. What do you think that means for the market? And like Goldneagle, it was gold eagle. Uh, there was actually some a couple bottles of special reserve and small batch. I was surprised. And they had put them up online at two o'clock and then by like two thirty I think they were gone.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Oh, okay. Let's see half hour, man.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

That's so I passed I passed on all of them. Like it just because we have them and have enough open that I don't need to be buying those bottles.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Yeah, special reserve would be a mixer for me if I was to get it.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Right. Right.

unknown 21:41

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

I'm not drinking that straight. Uh I think all that stuff's gonna become more readily available 'cause they're they have the juice to do it, and that's why everybody keeps I mean, revisiting the Bubble Bus podcast and closing down I mean MGP just closed down Lux Rose production.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

What do you think of that? Like it's a it's a sad day.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

I don't I don't think they bought Lux Row for their production of whiskey anyway. Okay. I think they were using it as their bottling and as their distribution center more than they were. Because they've I mean Lux Row wasn't putting shit out anyway. They were sourced, most of their good stuff was sourced.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Yeah, I was gonna say I thought they were sourcing, so that's so even to know they were just shutting that down. Um so what like uh with Buffalo Trace and SAS putting all that stuff out, how do you think that affects MGP? And we've talked about a little bit, like their sourcing and like they're shutting down Lux Row. Like what's their what do you think would ideally be their path, in your opinion?

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Ideally for them?

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Yeah. Like what are they thinking or what should be like what do you think they like because I know you're an MGP guy and I'm like just getting into that world, so like where do you think it goes?

SPEAKER_01 22:47

I think they're struggling. I know they've gone down quite a bit because they don't have the sourcing business they used to have. Yeah. Uh nobody's buying four-year-old MGP anymore. Got it. Because you can get a barrel of 12-year-old for what you used to pay for a four-year-old.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

That's so that's something else I want to ask you about too, is like with MGP and and I feel like I'm hearing about more contract distillers. Like you hear Wilderness Trails doing a lot of the northern um NDPs and stuff. I hear I hear more and more about that. So like that has to be cutting in on MGP's pie. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Plus, you get the you get the the shine of having Kentucky distilled on it versus the Indiana. Yeah. Indiana whiskey, so people like that aspect of it.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Because even Barstown's like sourcing, you know what I mean? Like all that's going on. So it'll be interesting what they this this foolproof is really good to me. Yeah. Like this like if I come over to your house and you offer me this, knowing what the price of the bottle is, I'm not mad at you.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

Right?

SPEAKER_01 23:48

So it's sometimes yes, smash for sure. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

Sometimes when people you go to the house, they they pull out a $40 bottle and you know it's a $40 bottle. Right, you know what I mean? Like this, I would be, oh, okay, this is nice.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

So what about you? Smash Pass. Definitely Smash. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

I mean, I love this bottle. Uh next time I go down to Kentucky and go to I mean, maybe we go next weekend. They're not open on the weekend, that's a problem. I have to go during the week. Oh, uh what's uh the what's that? The employee bottles. The employee bottles. Yeah, they don't have employee purchasing on the weekends. Gotta get it. Gotta get it.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Uh we're gonna be in town uh what, May 9th?

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Is that the weekend? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah, yeah, May 9th. The weekend we're gonna be in Kentucky is May 9th.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

Yeah, we're gonna be doing a podcast, the rival rival.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Revival? What time is that gonna be? Where's it gonna be?

SPEAKER_01 24:33

We're actually doing two podcasts. Well, we need people to show up. Show out. Uh, we're gonna be doing one in the bar. Uh that'll be focused on dusty's. Perfect. And then we're gonna be doing one in the gift shop, which is gonna be focused on their picks.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Are you bringing any dusties with you?

SPEAKER_01 24:49

I don't have any dusties to bring.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

I may have some. I'm gonna have to look.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

That Rock Hill's as dusty as I get.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

That to me, a nine-year-old Rock Hill, like that counts.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

I mean, I do have those beam decanters, but nobody really wants that. I think those are fun. They're alright.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Plus, I gotta put it in a mason jar after I get it out, or it's gonna turn into poo water after five days. Makes sense. That one I pulled out at the for my birthday party looks so dark now. You're excited. You're gonna you gotta shoot it. I'm just gonna pour it out. Down your throat? No. Pour it down your throat. I ain't drinking that. Man, it tastes like dirt water.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Interesting. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

I hear my children yelling at each other upstairs.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

I love it. We got the we got the puppy upstairs. The boys are running and gunning.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

And they all of a sudden just show up 20 minutes before Brandon gets here.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Yeah, I mean, I th they heard they heard it was showtime. We gotta get the dad's ASAP. Like it's going down.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Can we go to the dog park? I was like, no.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Daddy's got work to do.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

Yeah, I've I've already got somebody coming over to do a podcast. I'm not texting anybody. And they're like, what is that? We're already two weeks behind.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

You know, like it I've I've raised a boy, and sometimes they don't really listen. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Not sometimes sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

I feel like sometimes my son looks at me like the only time you should ask me someone is if I what should I have to eat for dinner.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

My brother's comment from being around them last weekend is like, you got some work to do on their listening skills.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

My response a lot of times is I'm working on my own listening skills. I'm working on my own listening skills.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

I'm gonna say that mine are far above better than theirs at this point.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

But you're further on your journey. They're just beginning. It's true. They're just beginning their listening journey.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

This dude cupping his shoulders? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Cupping the backs and the cupping the bags, gotta loosen those lats.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Looks like he's got a couple of hickeys on his shoulder. That's a wide-mouth bitch.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

That's a real sucker right there. That's that thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Sucker right there.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Yep. But San Antonio on the road, up 15, five to go in the fourth.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Wemby's 25, so we're gonna keep it.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

We gotta keep it under 27.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

Yeah. So we're gonna say, uh, you got anything to say in closing?

SPEAKER_00 27:06

No, I just appreciate you. Like always be open to trying those new things and get out and explore, right? There's always something new out there. And I I appreciate you guys.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

Appreciate it. Uh, it's the same thing, I always say, enjoy your pours and enjoy your family.