Bourbon Boyz

Ep 238 - Jack 14 Batch 2 and Summer Jobs (Stories from Summerfest)

Chad Huffman

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Brandon and I review the newest batch of Jack 14.  We talk about some summer jobs we use to have when we were younger.  Other random silliness.  

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SPEAKER_00

Hey, welcome to the Bourbon Boys. We're back in the uh Bourbon, the Mythical Den. Showtime's back. What's up, Showtime?

SPEAKER_01

What's going on? What's good with you? How you doing?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, not too bad. I'd be better if my air conditioner wasn't fucked up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that would be nice. That would be nice. You walk in and Chad's got stuff frozen outside, and it's like 100 degrees out. So I'd explain that.

SPEAKER_00

I got a block of ice on my uh outside. Um where is that?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, sorry, that's Indian Indianapolis.

SPEAKER_00

That's Butler, yeah. Um that's where Butler plays. Yeah. Uh my kids decided to turn my AC unit down to 56 degrees at some point in the past two days. Uh, and I realized it, and when I did, I turned it back down. When I turned it down, it now wouldn't go any, wouldn't cool any lower than 75 degrees.

SPEAKER_01

And for those that don't know, we've had a pretty pretty decent heat wave here the last week. So it's a not good timing. Uh-uh. So the boys got hot, turned it down.

SPEAKER_00

I think they're fitted to be dicks.

SPEAKER_01

Those are your words, not mine. That's all right. I can't I'm not I can't speak on their behalf, but I I would imagine they were hot at the time that it went down.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think those children get hot very often. Luckily, I have my ex-uncle-in-law who was married to my cousin, or cut my ex-cousin-in-law, married to my cousin back in Kentucky, who's a heating and air conditioning guy. So I called him and he gave me some tips to try to fix it.

SPEAKER_01

It's always good when you got a guy. Yeah. It's always good.

SPEAKER_00

Well, he used to do everything. When I was in Kentucky, he'd do everything for free. He's like, I can't really help you if you need fixes. Like, you don't you don't want to drive nine hours to fix my shit for free?

SPEAKER_01

Come on, brother. Come on. Come on, dude.

SPEAKER_00

He's like, Well, I would, but I don't think it'd be very enjoyable for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The fact that he's thinking about it, whether or not it's enjoyable, is enough stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, Rick's he's typical Kentucky cream of the I mean, he's the best cream.

SPEAKER_01

I'll say he's either a real good dude or he's a real sucker. Like it's either one way or the other. And both of the things.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he can't run a business as long as he has and be a sucker.

SPEAKER_01

There you go. So he's doing well. I mean, obviously you're calling him, so you must know what he's doing.

SPEAKER_00

He's always fixed. I worked with him one summer for like two days.

SPEAKER_01

He couldn't, yeah, he couldn't keep it. This ain't for me. Yep. I uh I stacked uh bird seed one summer during college, and I was uh that that's when I learned manual labor's not for me.

SPEAKER_00

I lost my job with Wrigley and uh it was one summer and I'd just gotten married to Abby and I worked with my buddy who was uh uh carpet, he did car carpet cleaning. That was not a job I worked with. That's not no at least it was inside.

SPEAKER_01

That was you're gonna see some stuff doing that job.

SPEAKER_00

Huh?

SPEAKER_01

I said you're gonna see some stuff.

SPEAKER_00

I saw a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely disgusting.

SPEAKER_00

All right, well, well, let's get to the actual whiskey instead of for now.

SPEAKER_01

It's a big one for me. So we'll get back to some other stuff. Right. I always get always got a good story, but uh Jack 14 in the glass today. Uh batch two. Uh for me, I'm a huge Jack guy. Um, and I probably favor the the age state statement bottles over like the Coy Hill. I'm not saying they're better, I'm just saying the bottles that I gravitate towards tend to be those bottles. Um, so the 14's way up in second year for the bat for the 14 year and batch one was phenomenal. This year they took the proof down. It's at 117. So it'll be interesting. What do you what do you what do you think here?

SPEAKER_00

Well, we already have put a little bit of a hurt on the bottle.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_00

When did you when did you start loving Jack Bangles so much?

SPEAKER_01

Well, so I think part of it for me with the age statement is like I when I started drinking, it was old number seven, right? So I think that flavor profile has always been uh, but I would say early 20s, my early 20s in college, uh, you know, of legal age. We'll go there with that. But Jack sure black labeled Jack has always been a on my shelf. Uh, you know, Jack and Coke kind of came up in college with that.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm relatively new to the Jack experience, probably in the last five years.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I started getting into the the uh single barrels when I realized how good they were. Yes. And the barrel strength single barrels, and I picked up a ton of them. I had a ton for a while, and then I just drank through them.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And then I went down there to do a barrel pick with almond.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we picked uh that was before they were doing barrel strength rise. They were doing the 90 proof. Was it 90 proof rise? Yep. And that 90 proof just fucked it all up. Just didn't hit nothing.

SPEAKER_01

Didn't hit the same.

SPEAKER_00

But the two, we picked two bourbons too. They were one of them was I thought hands down, Dan and I both were like, this is amazing. Yeah. And then they showed us the proofs, and of course, the proof or West had to have the higher proof one. Like, this one's good. We don't need to take a higher proof just to have a higher proof.

SPEAKER_01

But that's a whole nother story.

SPEAKER_00

Some people like what they like.

SPEAKER_01

They like what they like. So what do you on the nose, what do you what are you whiffing here? It doesn't hit you hard.

SPEAKER_00

Hits my right nostril harder than my left.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I think my right might be my dominant nostril.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I get a lot of it's not what you typically expect out of a Jack Daniels. More like a caramel.

SPEAKER_01

I think you do get more of that caramel that wood smell to it. Definitely oak. The oak comes through a lot more, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00

You'd have to add that. I do.

SPEAKER_01

I like to say, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00

They figured out it wasn't your opinion since you weren't talking about it.

SPEAKER_01

Alright, well, I don't want to give other people's opinion. So to me, it's a sweet oak caramel on the nose. I love the color of it.

SPEAKER_00

Splish splash.

SPEAKER_01

Love the color of it. It has great legs.

SPEAKER_00

It does. That's what I was just looking at. It's kind of hard in this glass.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

It's got decent legs.

SPEAKER_01

Right?

SPEAKER_00

I've seen better.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

They break pretty easily. That's still good. I mean they have nice legs.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Chat is available, ladies, just in case you were wondering.

SPEAKER_00

I like a nice set of legs.

SPEAKER_01

There you go. So on the mouth, what do you get?

SPEAKER_00

Are we still talking about legs?

SPEAKER_01

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00

Oak. I'm hit with oak about that.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of oak. A lot of oak, and that faint caramel comes in the back. But you still get kind of like uh just a slight touch of like doughy breadiness that's very subtle.

SPEAKER_00

There's almost a charcoal y finish to it. It's making my mouth water.

SPEAKER_01

Mmm. So my question for you is like 10, 12, 14, what tends to be your favorite?

SPEAKER_00

Because there's I haven't had any of the other ones.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, really? Okay. Well, we're gonna fix that. We're gonna fix that one.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe one that I can remember.

SPEAKER_01

So I obviously go back and forth um with the 12. Like batch three Jack 12 is way up there for me. The two and three were actually better than the one, in my opinion. But uh the Jack 14 is has been my favorite, and I think it's so much to do with that Oak Forward Jack. It just hits my palate perfect. The viscosity on my tongue is nice, like it right, your mouth's watering.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know that I've ever had a whiskey make my mouth water that much on a first. Well, it is my first drink of the day.

SPEAKER_01

It's not like I've been poking the bear, waking up now.

SPEAKER_00

Uh I did not awaken the palate tonight.

SPEAKER_01

Little Jack 14 and NBA Summer League, like it doesn't get any better.

SPEAKER_00

You know, on a broken AC unit.

SPEAKER_01

Broken AC unit.

SPEAKER_00

Well, frozen AC unit, hopefully soon to be unfrozen. So what is sleeping in the basement tonight?

SPEAKER_01

There you go. So what so uh if we look at secondary stuff, batch one like exploded last fall. Prices went from like 400 to like six, seven hundred. So what's interesting to me right now about the batch two is that it's selling like 375-ish. Right? And like does it take a big jump up once it gets out and people taste it more often, or is that because I'm all for prices coming down.

SPEAKER_00

Since I haven't had the first one, I can't tell if the first one's better. You said it is. I'd probably tend to believe you because this one doesn't. It's good at what I paid for it, which was mar was $150.

SPEAKER_01

Retail retail, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Retail, I'm fine with paying it. Yeah, yeah, for yeah, but I wouldn't pay any more than that.

SPEAKER_01

It's a legacy brand, it's one of their premier pro you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00

So I oak is just killing me.

SPEAKER_01

Nice to me, it doesn't get any better.

SPEAKER_00

So these are around $350.

SPEAKER_01

Ballpark, yeah. Which you can't touch a bag a batch one right now for under $650.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Speaking of secondary, all the um releases from uh Buffalo Trace.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Isn't it wild how all those the four the four grains came out like the first day you got people taking pictures from the parking lot?

SPEAKER_01

And selling them from the lot.

SPEAKER_00

But was it like 600 bucks when they first came out?

SPEAKER_01

Uh what's funny too, well, because they did the original release.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right? And those were going for $700, $800.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So the hope is like that it brings the price down, but then I I mean we got we need people to sell whiskey on secondary, but like the price sometimes just gets enough.

SPEAKER_00

Whoever puts it, that's why when we use I get furious when I see people posting pictures from the parking lot. Yeah. Because I'm like, at least get it home and then put it up. Don't take pictures from the place where you're buying it, basically flaunting the fact that you're taking advantage of them. Right. It is Buffalo Trace, so hopefully my boss isn't listening. But it is Buffalo Trace, so I mean, are you really upset about taking? But it's it's more of a look thing for me.

SPEAKER_01

I agree, it's not a good look.

SPEAKER_00

No. It's not that's why people do it though, because they get such crazy money when it first comes out. Yes. Because you got people with stupid money that's willing to pay for it just so they don't have to wait in line because they're gonna pay five times what it costs.

SPEAKER_01

So I before I uh before we started recording here, I was looking at Unicorn Auctions and of the cured oak, I think there were 65 bottles up. You know what I mean? Like that's just I don't kind of work in the wrong one. Yeah, the new one.

SPEAKER_00

I would like to try that one. That's the only EH Taylor I've really liked.

SPEAKER_01

I had it at a bottle share and it was delicious.

SPEAKER_00

I think I had I did have it at uh the new one, I mean.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I hadn't had their old okay they just had it.

SPEAKER_00

That was when we were there for the soccer game. I liked it. I thought it was really good and I would pay retail for it. Absolutely. Maybe two times.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

What's it 150 bucks? Ballpark, I think you're I'll go 150 at it. Yeah. That's about all I'm not going any higher than that.

SPEAKER_01

It uh yeah, it's one of those things like it in Wisconsin, that's gonna be a tough thing to come across on the shelf. Right? Uh so if you really want it here, you're probably gonna have to pay for it.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01

You know, but that is what you know, it is what it is. But they they keep telling us the whiskey market is dead. You know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, Buffalo Trace is doing a good job of shooting itself in the foot by selling all the shit from the gift shop.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And not sending it out to stores.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I guess they're not shooting themselves in the foot, they're making the money.

SPEAKER_01

They're making their money. They they cut out, you know, they eliminate the little guy, and you know, their profit's probably a t a touch bigger than.

SPEAKER_00

Then you got all the people getting on there. It's always hilarious to me the next day when you see people complaining about how they run the lines, and they let people do this and that. I was like, you know, they got 6,000 people there.

SPEAKER_01

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

What are they supposed to do?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you really police it.

SPEAKER_00

You can't. Not with that many people. You couldn't when I used to actually sit in lines, you couldn't police it then. It was impossible. We had I first time I ever set line for whiskey was in Corbin, Kentucky, which you uh probably remember that's southern Kentucky, like right before the Tennessee line.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I found out they were getting pappies. Okay. So I go at it was probably 11 o'clock PM the day before.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And I sat out there all night long. First, I think I was second in line.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And oh no. This lady comes like 20 minutes for the thing, and tries to stand up front by the door.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we're like, lady, there's a line here. Oh no, I'm going in right here doing this. I'm like, no, bitch. You're not.

SPEAKER_01

Right. No, not.

SPEAKER_00

And then she tried to squeeze in and there was a almost a riot. Of course. My buddy Todd Harris, uh, okay, he was there too. So we were all like, Todd Harris was ready to cut a bitch.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, it's so he it's it's really is the principle, right? Like to me, because it's like it's not the end of the world if I miss a bottle of booze.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Not the end of the world. But if I sit there all night and then you try to cut me, now I got a problem. It's not about the the bottle.

SPEAKER_00

She was buying it for her boss who owned a law firm. Which was even worse.

SPEAKER_01

Well, she probably had two options. Either buy a bottle. Or do some or do something else? Do something else. I remember how what she looked like. It's more about what does the boss look like? Because she's that's how bad she needed this bottle.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_01

The fact that she was willing to fight you tells you.

SPEAKER_00

Well, she wasn't willing to fight, she was willing to yell. Well, passionate. She didn't want to throw fisticuffs.

SPEAKER_01

That's fair.

SPEAKER_00

That was me 12, 13 years younger. I would have Muhammad Ali her ass around, Bob and weaved.

SPEAKER_01

What happens?

SPEAKER_00

I ended up getting a Pappy 15.

SPEAKER_01

It's a good day. Did they have a 20 or 23?

SPEAKER_00

They had a 20, but the guy in front of me took it. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um and I sold it to somebody that I knew would buy it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Did sell it before I left the parking lot. But no pictures.

SPEAKER_01

No pictures for taking it.

SPEAKER_00

I just direct messaging them like, would you give me this?

SPEAKER_01

I think it was like now. 600. Nope. Five.

SPEAKER_00

Nope.

SPEAKER_01

Higher?

SPEAKER_00

Lower.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was a 350.

SPEAKER_00

I think it was five or six. Maybe it was five, I think. Yeah. 450. I can't remember. But you know how much that shit's worth now.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_00

And if I still had that bottle, how much that would be a 10-year-old, 10-year ago 2015.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Damn it. I digress.

SPEAKER_00

I did get in line and get a uh uh uh Old Forrester birthday bourbon.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I am not above waiting in the line.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not either if it's something worth waiting in now. A lot of times these stores are putting up lists and stuff, they're like, I'm not waiting in the line for uh something I can find on a shelf most of the time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's always wild to me. It's like you've seen some of these allocated raffle lists, and it's just like I I can go buy half the list right now.

SPEAKER_00

You're inflating your numbers of what people can win falsely by having this crap that nobody really wants.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Well, then it's that weird thing like you win something and then are you you feel obligated to buy it. Yep. You know.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna adjust my mic. Hopefully, you've been hearing me.

SPEAKER_01

So Jack 14's a winner.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it's good. Right does it blow knock my socks off? No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_01

I think it gets a passing grade. Right? Like it's pretty, it's about what you expect from it.

SPEAKER_00

Give it like an 80.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_00

Is that a B?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, low B, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

B minus.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, still respectable.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I'd have been happy to get all B's in high school.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. We get a pencil, we just erase that minus, and now we got a regular B.

SPEAKER_00

Or you could just put a another. B plus on it, B plus. Yeah, now we're really shifting.

SPEAKER_01

Now we're really adding points.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, well, we got a new segment in the podcast for at least a few weeks. It's gonna be Brandon worked uh Summerfest. Summerfest fucked up our uh our recording schedule.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I was working like uh 12-hour days Thursday through Saturday night and wrapping up around 1-130. Um so I saw a lot of stuff, and uh one of the wildest things I I felt was wild was uh obviously Well, hold on a second.

SPEAKER_00

New segment is brand to tell stories from Summerfest. Just to just to give it a little lead in. Now you can tell the story.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm I'm patrolling the grounds, patrolling, checking things out, right? Like everybody's in good spirits, and usually the like it's pretty clear that like around eight o'clock is when you know the drinking kind of picks up and the the concerts get louder, and the music kind of changes, right? It's gonna like in the afternoons, it's pretty chill, right? A lot of acoustic stuff. And uh for those that don't know, Summerfest is the largest music festival in the world, it goes for nine days, and bands from all over the world, and talent from all genres of music come. But it also is uh a spot for teenagers to hang out, and I was walking um just checking things out, and there was a group of uh maybe about 10 to 12 high school girls. Oh they were passing around uh one fireball shooter. Okay, so I had to uh excuse me, ladies, grab the fireball, like half of them start crying, like they think they're going to the police, like all this. So I dumped it out and was just like, let's keep it moving. But like the panic, and you you would think that I that those young ladies thought that I knew everything about their life. Like, are you gonna call my dad? I don't know who your dad is. Like just stop it and move on. But I thought that was like so 99 cent shooter for 12 high school girls.

SPEAKER_00

They're passing around a 50 millimiliter, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The little guy. So just take yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So it's barely wet in their lips.

SPEAKER_01

Part of me wanted to watch it. Like, uh, how much like who's the one that takes the most? Is it an issue? Right? Uh, but no, I go up, take it, correct that. Uh, but that that was pretty lighthearted. But uh it's just wild. Like you see those kids, and and now I look at you, you get you're you got three uh coming up the ranks, and you know, I got my son's in high school, and you just keep tabs on them, is what I you know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00

Know what they're fortunately have failed at that a lot, right?

SPEAKER_01

I I mean it nobody's perfect, but uh you know the you see kids getting dropped off at summer fest at like four o'clock and then getting picked up at like midnight.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy. Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_01

Like 16, 15. Like what they're gonna get in trouble.

SPEAKER_00

Like, what are you getting like but it's wild back in the day you could do that, there was no cameras.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

So you got away with the shit as long as you didn't hurt somebody or you didn't get hurt, you were fine, or piss anybody off, you know. Like now there's cameras everywhere, you can do anything that's how I tell them all the time.

SPEAKER_01

Uh there's camera on you. There's a camera on you, there's a camera on you.

SPEAKER_00

You can't fight?

SPEAKER_01

Nope. Nope. Nope. Screw nope. No, and crazy thing is like when you look at some of those bigger parks, they can pinpoint where you are quickly. Like the because there's probably 150 cameras around the grounds, and then they can tell you exactly where something's happening, when it's happening, you know, who needs to go, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Were you involved in that big fight the last day?

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. You were I was right in the middle of it. Were you really? I was right in the middle of it.

SPEAKER_00

I saw some video of that. I guess I was shit.

SPEAKER_01

I was probably in there. If you watch it, I'm probably in there because I um a lot of it was just getting it uh uh people out the gate. Right? Because you know, maybe too much to drink. It happened right by the gate. Right by the gate, yep. So then I so at that point it's just like have a good night, go home.

SPEAKER_00

What started it?

SPEAKER_01

Um there it well, it's always like when something bigger happens, it's usually two or three things occurring at the same time. So there are multiple fights happening or arguments that spill over and to one big to one big because somebody bumps somebody else, somebody steps on somebody's shoe, somebody you know acts. Scuffed to J. Scuff to J. We gotta we gotta get down. We gotta get down.

SPEAKER_00

That looked like a that was a quite a brawl.

SPEAKER_01

That and a half, that and a half, but it you know, and uh I always struggle with looking at you know our young people and you know, maybe it's just me and Milwaukee, but I think we need to do a better job of uh you know allocating resources and and giving young people something to do that's positive. Um that's not the same thing that we've been doing, but that's just the ideal idealistic teacher in me.

SPEAKER_00

Well, what do you what do you do? What do you give them to do if they don't want to do it?

SPEAKER_01

Right? That's the that's the thing. I think the solution honestly is from someone who's much smarter than me, but I think a lot of it is getting those young guys involved and having conversations with them. What do you want to do? Like, what do you want to you know? A lot of parks took I mean they take the rims off the backboards for crying out loud. Like really, yeah, because they don't want people playing late at night, so that you know that seems like a lot of work to take the rims off of a basketball going. Well then you don't have to worry about basketball, you don't have to put nets up, you know, right? People aren't coming to that park. It seems ironic to me that we're deterring people from coming to the park because of we're worried that something might happen. So you're taking opportunities away from people that want to do the right thing and want to do it. Frustrating. That is a real beard. Onsai Saleh, the general manager of the Atlanta Hawks, he's been pretty busy this summer. A couple guys on Wisconsin from Wisconsin on the Hawks roster.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, well, I guess we're gonna close it out with that.

SPEAKER_01

Perfect.

SPEAKER_00

Um, got anything to say in closing?

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm just glad to be back. Appreciate you all so much, and the support's been outstanding.

SPEAKER_00

Um should hopefully have more uh consistency.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, yeah. I'm I'm I'm glad to get back to a regular sleep schedule.

SPEAKER_00

I bet you are. All right, till next time, enjoy your pours and enjoy your family.