Bourbon Boyz
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Ep 238 - Jack 14 Batch 2 and Summer Jobs (Stories from Summerfest)
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Brandon and I review the newest batch of Jack 14. We talk about some summer jobs we use to have when we were younger. Other random silliness.
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Hey, welcome to the Bourbon Boys. We're back in the uh Bourbon, the Mythical Den. Showtime's back. What's up, Showtime?
SPEAKER_01What's going on? What's good with you? How you doing?
SPEAKER_00Uh, not too bad. I'd be better if my air conditioner wasn't fucked up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that would be nice. That would be nice. You walk in and Chad's got stuff frozen outside, and it's like 100 degrees out. So I'd explain that.
SPEAKER_00I got a block of ice on my uh outside. Um where is that?
SPEAKER_01Oh, sorry, that's Indian Indianapolis.
SPEAKER_00That's Butler, yeah. Um that's where Butler plays. Yeah. Uh my kids decided to turn my AC unit down to 56 degrees at some point in the past two days. Uh, and I realized it, and when I did, I turned it back down. When I turned it down, it now wouldn't go any, wouldn't cool any lower than 75 degrees.
SPEAKER_01And for those that don't know, we've had a pretty pretty decent heat wave here the last week. So it's a not good timing. Uh-uh. So the boys got hot, turned it down.
SPEAKER_00I think they're fitted to be dicks.
SPEAKER_01Those are your words, not mine. That's all right. I can't I'm not I can't speak on their behalf, but I I would imagine they were hot at the time that it went down.
SPEAKER_00I don't think those children get hot very often. Luckily, I have my ex-uncle-in-law who was married to my cousin, or cut my ex-cousin-in-law, married to my cousin back in Kentucky, who's a heating and air conditioning guy. So I called him and he gave me some tips to try to fix it.
SPEAKER_01It's always good when you got a guy. Yeah. It's always good.
SPEAKER_00Well, he used to do everything. When I was in Kentucky, he'd do everything for free. He's like, I can't really help you if you need fixes. Like, you don't you don't want to drive nine hours to fix my shit for free?
SPEAKER_01Come on, brother. Come on. Come on, dude.
SPEAKER_00He's like, Well, I would, but I don't think it'd be very enjoyable for me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The fact that he's thinking about it, whether or not it's enjoyable, is enough stuff.
SPEAKER_00Oh, Rick's he's typical Kentucky cream of the I mean, he's the best cream.
SPEAKER_01I'll say he's either a real good dude or he's a real sucker. Like it's either one way or the other. And both of the things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he can't run a business as long as he has and be a sucker.
SPEAKER_01There you go. So he's doing well. I mean, obviously you're calling him, so you must know what he's doing.
SPEAKER_00He's always fixed. I worked with him one summer for like two days.
SPEAKER_01He couldn't, yeah, he couldn't keep it. This ain't for me. Yep. I uh I stacked uh bird seed one summer during college, and I was uh that that's when I learned manual labor's not for me.
SPEAKER_00I lost my job with Wrigley and uh it was one summer and I'd just gotten married to Abby and I worked with my buddy who was uh uh carpet, he did car carpet cleaning. That was not a job I worked with. That's not no at least it was inside.
SPEAKER_01That was you're gonna see some stuff doing that job.
SPEAKER_00Huh?
SPEAKER_01I said you're gonna see some stuff.
SPEAKER_00I saw a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely disgusting.
SPEAKER_00All right, well, well, let's get to the actual whiskey instead of for now.
SPEAKER_01It's a big one for me. So we'll get back to some other stuff. Right. I always get always got a good story, but uh Jack 14 in the glass today. Uh batch two. Uh for me, I'm a huge Jack guy. Um, and I probably favor the the age state statement bottles over like the Coy Hill. I'm not saying they're better, I'm just saying the bottles that I gravitate towards tend to be those bottles. Um, so the 14's way up in second year for the bat for the 14 year and batch one was phenomenal. This year they took the proof down. It's at 117. So it'll be interesting. What do you what do you what do you think here?
SPEAKER_00Well, we already have put a little bit of a hurt on the bottle.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I see.
SPEAKER_00When did you when did you start loving Jack Bangles so much?
SPEAKER_01Well, so I think part of it for me with the age statement is like I when I started drinking, it was old number seven, right? So I think that flavor profile has always been uh, but I would say early 20s, my early 20s in college, uh, you know, of legal age. We'll go there with that. But Jack sure black labeled Jack has always been a on my shelf. Uh, you know, Jack and Coke kind of came up in college with that.
SPEAKER_00So I'm relatively new to the Jack experience, probably in the last five years.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Uh I started getting into the the uh single barrels when I realized how good they were. Yes. And the barrel strength single barrels, and I picked up a ton of them. I had a ton for a while, and then I just drank through them.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00And then I went down there to do a barrel pick with almond.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we picked uh that was before they were doing barrel strength rise. They were doing the 90 proof. Was it 90 proof rise? Yep. And that 90 proof just fucked it all up. Just didn't hit nothing.
SPEAKER_01Didn't hit the same.
SPEAKER_00But the two, we picked two bourbons too. They were one of them was I thought hands down, Dan and I both were like, this is amazing. Yeah. And then they showed us the proofs, and of course, the proof or West had to have the higher proof one. Like, this one's good. We don't need to take a higher proof just to have a higher proof.
SPEAKER_01But that's a whole nother story.
SPEAKER_00Some people like what they like.
SPEAKER_01They like what they like. So what do you on the nose, what do you what are you whiffing here? It doesn't hit you hard.
SPEAKER_00Hits my right nostril harder than my left.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I think my right might be my dominant nostril.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I get a lot of it's not what you typically expect out of a Jack Daniels. More like a caramel.
SPEAKER_01I think you do get more of that caramel that wood smell to it. Definitely oak. The oak comes through a lot more, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_00You'd have to add that. I do.
SPEAKER_01I like to say, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_00They figured out it wasn't your opinion since you weren't talking about it.
SPEAKER_01Alright, well, I don't want to give other people's opinion. So to me, it's a sweet oak caramel on the nose. I love the color of it.
SPEAKER_00Splish splash.
SPEAKER_01Love the color of it. It has great legs.
SPEAKER_00It does. That's what I was just looking at. It's kind of hard in this glass.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00It's got decent legs.
SPEAKER_01Right?
SPEAKER_00I've seen better.
SPEAKER_01Oh. Okay.
SPEAKER_00They break pretty easily. That's still good. I mean they have nice legs.
SPEAKER_01Correct. Chat is available, ladies, just in case you were wondering.
SPEAKER_00I like a nice set of legs.
SPEAKER_01There you go. So on the mouth, what do you get?
SPEAKER_00Are we still talking about legs?
SPEAKER_01Maybe.
SPEAKER_00Oak. I'm hit with oak about that.
SPEAKER_01A lot of oak. A lot of oak, and that faint caramel comes in the back. But you still get kind of like uh just a slight touch of like doughy breadiness that's very subtle.
SPEAKER_00There's almost a charcoal y finish to it. It's making my mouth water.
SPEAKER_01Mmm. So my question for you is like 10, 12, 14, what tends to be your favorite?
SPEAKER_00Because there's I haven't had any of the other ones.
SPEAKER_01Oh, really? Okay. Well, we're gonna fix that. We're gonna fix that one.
SPEAKER_00Maybe one that I can remember.
SPEAKER_01So I obviously go back and forth um with the 12. Like batch three Jack 12 is way up there for me. The two and three were actually better than the one, in my opinion. But uh the Jack 14 is has been my favorite, and I think it's so much to do with that Oak Forward Jack. It just hits my palate perfect. The viscosity on my tongue is nice, like it right, your mouth's watering.
SPEAKER_00I don't know that I've ever had a whiskey make my mouth water that much on a first. Well, it is my first drink of the day.
SPEAKER_01It's not like I've been poking the bear, waking up now.
SPEAKER_00Uh I did not awaken the palate tonight.
SPEAKER_01Little Jack 14 and NBA Summer League, like it doesn't get any better.
SPEAKER_00You know, on a broken AC unit.
SPEAKER_01Broken AC unit.
SPEAKER_00Well, frozen AC unit, hopefully soon to be unfrozen. So what is sleeping in the basement tonight?
SPEAKER_01There you go. So what so uh if we look at secondary stuff, batch one like exploded last fall. Prices went from like 400 to like six, seven hundred. So what's interesting to me right now about the batch two is that it's selling like 375-ish. Right? And like does it take a big jump up once it gets out and people taste it more often, or is that because I'm all for prices coming down.
SPEAKER_00Since I haven't had the first one, I can't tell if the first one's better. You said it is. I'd probably tend to believe you because this one doesn't. It's good at what I paid for it, which was mar was $150.
SPEAKER_01Retail retail, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Retail, I'm fine with paying it. Yeah, yeah, for yeah, but I wouldn't pay any more than that.
SPEAKER_01It's a legacy brand, it's one of their premier pro you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_00So I oak is just killing me.
SPEAKER_01Nice to me, it doesn't get any better.
SPEAKER_00So these are around $350.
SPEAKER_01Ballpark, yeah. Which you can't touch a bag a batch one right now for under $650.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Speaking of secondary, all the um releases from uh Buffalo Trace.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Isn't it wild how all those the four the four grains came out like the first day you got people taking pictures from the parking lot?
SPEAKER_01And selling them from the lot.
SPEAKER_00But was it like 600 bucks when they first came out?
SPEAKER_01Uh what's funny too, well, because they did the original release.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Right? And those were going for $700, $800.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So the hope is like that it brings the price down, but then I I mean we got we need people to sell whiskey on secondary, but like the price sometimes just gets enough.
SPEAKER_00Whoever puts it, that's why when we use I get furious when I see people posting pictures from the parking lot. Yeah. Because I'm like, at least get it home and then put it up. Don't take pictures from the place where you're buying it, basically flaunting the fact that you're taking advantage of them. Right. It is Buffalo Trace, so hopefully my boss isn't listening. But it is Buffalo Trace, so I mean, are you really upset about taking? But it's it's more of a look thing for me.
SPEAKER_01I agree, it's not a good look.
SPEAKER_00No. It's not that's why people do it though, because they get such crazy money when it first comes out. Yes. Because you got people with stupid money that's willing to pay for it just so they don't have to wait in line because they're gonna pay five times what it costs.
SPEAKER_01So I before I uh before we started recording here, I was looking at Unicorn Auctions and of the cured oak, I think there were 65 bottles up. You know what I mean? Like that's just I don't kind of work in the wrong one. Yeah, the new one.
SPEAKER_00I would like to try that one. That's the only EH Taylor I've really liked.
SPEAKER_01I had it at a bottle share and it was delicious.
SPEAKER_00I think I had I did have it at uh the new one, I mean.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I hadn't had their old okay they just had it.
SPEAKER_00That was when we were there for the soccer game. I liked it. I thought it was really good and I would pay retail for it. Absolutely. Maybe two times.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00What's it 150 bucks? Ballpark, I think you're I'll go 150 at it. Yeah. That's about all I'm not going any higher than that.
SPEAKER_01It uh yeah, it's one of those things like it in Wisconsin, that's gonna be a tough thing to come across on the shelf. Right? Uh so if you really want it here, you're probably gonna have to pay for it.
SPEAKER_00I'm sure.
SPEAKER_01You know, but that is what you know, it is what it is. But they they keep telling us the whiskey market is dead. You know.
SPEAKER_00Well, Buffalo Trace is doing a good job of shooting itself in the foot by selling all the shit from the gift shop.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And not sending it out to stores.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I guess they're not shooting themselves in the foot, they're making the money.
SPEAKER_01They're making their money. They they cut out, you know, they eliminate the little guy, and you know, their profit's probably a t a touch bigger than.
SPEAKER_00Then you got all the people getting on there. It's always hilarious to me the next day when you see people complaining about how they run the lines, and they let people do this and that. I was like, you know, they got 6,000 people there.
SPEAKER_01Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00What are they supposed to do?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you really police it.
SPEAKER_00You can't. Not with that many people. You couldn't when I used to actually sit in lines, you couldn't police it then. It was impossible. We had I first time I ever set line for whiskey was in Corbin, Kentucky, which you uh probably remember that's southern Kentucky, like right before the Tennessee line.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I found out they were getting pappies. Okay. So I go at it was probably 11 o'clock PM the day before.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00And I sat out there all night long. First, I think I was second in line.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And oh no. This lady comes like 20 minutes for the thing, and tries to stand up front by the door.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we're like, lady, there's a line here. Oh no, I'm going in right here doing this. I'm like, no, bitch. You're not.
SPEAKER_01Right. No, not.
SPEAKER_00And then she tried to squeeze in and there was a almost a riot. Of course. My buddy Todd Harris, uh, okay, he was there too. So we were all like, Todd Harris was ready to cut a bitch.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, it's so he it's it's really is the principle, right? Like to me, because it's like it's not the end of the world if I miss a bottle of booze.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Not the end of the world. But if I sit there all night and then you try to cut me, now I got a problem. It's not about the the bottle.
SPEAKER_00She was buying it for her boss who owned a law firm. Which was even worse.
SPEAKER_01Well, she probably had two options. Either buy a bottle. Or do some or do something else? Do something else. I remember how what she looked like. It's more about what does the boss look like? Because she's that's how bad she needed this bottle.
SPEAKER_00I didn't think about that.
SPEAKER_01The fact that she was willing to fight you tells you.
SPEAKER_00Well, she wasn't willing to fight, she was willing to yell. Well, passionate. She didn't want to throw fisticuffs.
SPEAKER_01That's fair.
SPEAKER_00That was me 12, 13 years younger. I would have Muhammad Ali her ass around, Bob and weaved.
SPEAKER_01What happens?
SPEAKER_00I ended up getting a Pappy 15.
SPEAKER_01It's a good day. Did they have a 20 or 23?
SPEAKER_00They had a 20, but the guy in front of me took it. Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um and I sold it to somebody that I knew would buy it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Did sell it before I left the parking lot. But no pictures.
SPEAKER_01No pictures for taking it.
SPEAKER_00I just direct messaging them like, would you give me this?
SPEAKER_01I think it was like now. 600. Nope. Five.
SPEAKER_00Nope.
SPEAKER_01Higher?
SPEAKER_00Lower.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was a 350.
SPEAKER_00I think it was five or six. Maybe it was five, I think. Yeah. 450. I can't remember. But you know how much that shit's worth now.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_00And if I still had that bottle, how much that would be a 10-year-old, 10-year ago 2015.
SPEAKER_01Correct.
SPEAKER_00Anyway.
SPEAKER_01Damn it. I digress.
SPEAKER_00I did get in line and get a uh uh uh Old Forrester birthday bourbon.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I am not above waiting in the line.
SPEAKER_00I'm not either if it's something worth waiting in now. A lot of times these stores are putting up lists and stuff, they're like, I'm not waiting in the line for uh something I can find on a shelf most of the time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's always wild to me. It's like you've seen some of these allocated raffle lists, and it's just like I I can go buy half the list right now.
SPEAKER_00You're inflating your numbers of what people can win falsely by having this crap that nobody really wants.
SPEAKER_01Correct. Well, then it's that weird thing like you win something and then are you you feel obligated to buy it. Yep. You know.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna adjust my mic. Hopefully, you've been hearing me.
SPEAKER_01So Jack 14's a winner.
SPEAKER_00I mean, it's good. Right does it blow knock my socks off? No, it doesn't.
SPEAKER_01I think it gets a passing grade. Right? Like it's pretty, it's about what you expect from it.
SPEAKER_00Give it like an 80.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair.
SPEAKER_00Is that a B?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, low B, yeah.
SPEAKER_00B minus.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, still respectable.
SPEAKER_00You know, I'd have been happy to get all B's in high school.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We get a pencil, we just erase that minus, and now we got a regular B.
SPEAKER_00Or you could just put a another. B plus on it, B plus. Yeah, now we're really shifting.
SPEAKER_01Now we're really adding points.
SPEAKER_00Alright, well, we got a new segment in the podcast for at least a few weeks. It's gonna be Brandon worked uh Summerfest. Summerfest fucked up our uh our recording schedule.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I was working like uh 12-hour days Thursday through Saturday night and wrapping up around 1-130. Um so I saw a lot of stuff, and uh one of the wildest things I I felt was wild was uh obviously Well, hold on a second.
SPEAKER_00New segment is brand to tell stories from Summerfest. Just to just to give it a little lead in. Now you can tell the story.
SPEAKER_01So I'm I'm patrolling the grounds, patrolling, checking things out, right? Like everybody's in good spirits, and usually the like it's pretty clear that like around eight o'clock is when you know the drinking kind of picks up and the the concerts get louder, and the music kind of changes, right? It's gonna like in the afternoons, it's pretty chill, right? A lot of acoustic stuff. And uh for those that don't know, Summerfest is the largest music festival in the world, it goes for nine days, and bands from all over the world, and talent from all genres of music come. But it also is uh a spot for teenagers to hang out, and I was walking um just checking things out, and there was a group of uh maybe about 10 to 12 high school girls. Oh they were passing around uh one fireball shooter. Okay, so I had to uh excuse me, ladies, grab the fireball, like half of them start crying, like they think they're going to the police, like all this. So I dumped it out and was just like, let's keep it moving. But like the panic, and you you would think that I that those young ladies thought that I knew everything about their life. Like, are you gonna call my dad? I don't know who your dad is. Like just stop it and move on. But I thought that was like so 99 cent shooter for 12 high school girls.
SPEAKER_00They're passing around a 50 millimiliter, yeah.
SPEAKER_01The little guy. So just take yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00So it's barely wet in their lips.
SPEAKER_01Part of me wanted to watch it. Like, uh, how much like who's the one that takes the most? Is it an issue? Right? Uh, but no, I go up, take it, correct that. Uh, but that that was pretty lighthearted. But uh it's just wild. Like you see those kids, and and now I look at you, you get you're you got three uh coming up the ranks, and you know, I got my son's in high school, and you just keep tabs on them, is what I you know what they're doing.
SPEAKER_00Know what they're fortunately have failed at that a lot, right?
SPEAKER_01I I mean it nobody's perfect, but uh you know the you see kids getting dropped off at summer fest at like four o'clock and then getting picked up at like midnight.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy. Like, what are we doing?
SPEAKER_01Like 16, 15. Like what they're gonna get in trouble.
SPEAKER_00Like, what are you getting like but it's wild back in the day you could do that, there was no cameras.
SPEAKER_01Correct.
SPEAKER_00So you got away with the shit as long as you didn't hurt somebody or you didn't get hurt, you were fine, or piss anybody off, you know. Like now there's cameras everywhere, you can do anything that's how I tell them all the time.
SPEAKER_01Uh there's camera on you. There's a camera on you, there's a camera on you.
SPEAKER_00You can't fight?
SPEAKER_01Nope. Nope. Nope. Screw nope. No, and crazy thing is like when you look at some of those bigger parks, they can pinpoint where you are quickly. Like the because there's probably 150 cameras around the grounds, and then they can tell you exactly where something's happening, when it's happening, you know, who needs to go, all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00Were you involved in that big fight the last day?
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. You were I was right in the middle of it. Were you really? I was right in the middle of it.
SPEAKER_00I saw some video of that. I guess I was shit.
SPEAKER_01I was probably in there. If you watch it, I'm probably in there because I um a lot of it was just getting it uh uh people out the gate. Right? Because you know, maybe too much to drink. It happened right by the gate. Right by the gate, yep. So then I so at that point it's just like have a good night, go home.
SPEAKER_00What started it?
SPEAKER_01Um there it well, it's always like when something bigger happens, it's usually two or three things occurring at the same time. So there are multiple fights happening or arguments that spill over and to one big to one big because somebody bumps somebody else, somebody steps on somebody's shoe, somebody you know acts. Scuffed to J. Scuff to J. We gotta we gotta get down. We gotta get down.
SPEAKER_00That looked like a that was a quite a brawl.
SPEAKER_01That and a half, that and a half, but it you know, and uh I always struggle with looking at you know our young people and you know, maybe it's just me and Milwaukee, but I think we need to do a better job of uh you know allocating resources and and giving young people something to do that's positive. Um that's not the same thing that we've been doing, but that's just the ideal idealistic teacher in me.
SPEAKER_00Well, what do you what do you do? What do you give them to do if they don't want to do it?
SPEAKER_01Right? That's the that's the thing. I think the solution honestly is from someone who's much smarter than me, but I think a lot of it is getting those young guys involved and having conversations with them. What do you want to do? Like, what do you want to you know? A lot of parks took I mean they take the rims off the backboards for crying out loud. Like really, yeah, because they don't want people playing late at night, so that you know that seems like a lot of work to take the rims off of a basketball going. Well then you don't have to worry about basketball, you don't have to put nets up, you know, right? People aren't coming to that park. It seems ironic to me that we're deterring people from coming to the park because of we're worried that something might happen. So you're taking opportunities away from people that want to do the right thing and want to do it. Frustrating. That is a real beard. Onsai Saleh, the general manager of the Atlanta Hawks, he's been pretty busy this summer. A couple guys on Wisconsin from Wisconsin on the Hawks roster.
SPEAKER_00Alright, well, I guess we're gonna close it out with that.
SPEAKER_01Perfect.
SPEAKER_00Um, got anything to say in closing?
SPEAKER_01No, I'm just glad to be back. Appreciate you all so much, and the support's been outstanding.
SPEAKER_00Um should hopefully have more uh consistency.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely, yeah. I'm I'm I'm glad to get back to a regular sleep schedule.
SPEAKER_00I bet you are. All right, till next time, enjoy your pours and enjoy your family.