Ready to crack the cryptic enigma of Halloween? Join us alongside our distinguished guest Quentin Stroud as he lifts the veil on the origins of this ancient festival, taking us back to the Gaelic and Celtic celebrations of life's cyclical end. Forget the fear, and step into a realm where a candle in the window is not a sign of eerie happenings but a warm welcome to the ancestors.
Fascinated by the role of fear in our society? Unearth the paradoxical nature of fear, its exploitation as a marketing tool, and discover strategies to control its overwhelming flow. Hold your breath as we dissect the impact of seemingly simple terminology shifts like "Trunk or Treat" in shaping our perceptions. Navigate through an environment burdened with unknown threats, and grasp how tools like guns or locationals offer a semblance of control.
Ever thought about how you can leverage fear? Brace yourself for an exploration of the roots of fear, its historical deployment as a control tool, and the empowering art of confronting it. Under Quentin’s guidance, decode the power of communication in confronting fear, and the magic of the ARC triangle in finding your reality point. Finally, learn how confronting complexity, rather than running from it, can be the key to freeing ourselves from the shackles of fear. Get ready to embark on an enlightening journey that promises to leave you with a fresh understanding of fear and how to navigate it.
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Ready to crack the cryptic enigma of Halloween? Join us alongside our distinguished guest Quentin Stroud as he lifts the veil on the origins of this ancient festival, taking us back to the Gaelic and Celtic celebrations of life's cyclical end. Forget the fear, and step into a realm where a candle in the window is not a sign of eerie happenings but a warm welcome to the ancestors.
Fascinated by the role of fear in our society? Unearth the paradoxical nature of fear, its exploitation as a marketing tool, and discover strategies to control its overwhelming flow. Hold your breath as we dissect the impact of seemingly simple terminology shifts like "Trunk or Treat" in shaping our perceptions. Navigate through an environment burdened with unknown threats, and grasp how tools like guns or locationals offer a semblance of control.
Ever thought about how you can leverage fear? Brace yourself for an exploration of the roots of fear, its historical deployment as a control tool, and the empowering art of confronting it. Under Quentin’s guidance, decode the power of communication in confronting fear, and the magic of the ARC triangle in finding your reality point. Finally, learn how confronting complexity, rather than running from it, can be the key to freeing ourselves from the shackles of fear. Get ready to embark on an enlightening journey that promises to leave you with a fresh understanding of fear and how to navigate it.
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Speaker 2:Hi everybody. It's another exciting podcast from AOGP, the advanced org of the Great Plains. This is episode 18 of season 6, heart 6 of Parasyntology our final installment of the Parasyntology series. I'm here with Quentin Stroud, and this one is going to be about fear. Everybody's around. Where does he come from? Yep, that's what's going to be about. This is going to be an interesting one, for sure. Lots of directions that we're going to go on this. But first let's talk about a brief history of Halloween. This is Quentin's forte, so I'm going to let him take this, and then we'll run from there over to you.
Speaker 3:Well, absolutely, I'm glad we talked about Happy Halloween, by the way, everybody. And if you enjoy, you know I was at the mall and saw the kids running around the mall and their costumes and stuff like that. It was a lot of fun to see. So, definitely, if you enjoy, happy Halloween to you so real quickly.
Speaker 3:Halloween, believe it or not, is actually a really robust celebration. It's a recognition of the end of the cycle of life and how, traditionally, we would not have this fear of death, we would not have this fear of dropping bodies and going on to another plane of existence. In the ancient Gaelic or Celtic festival of Sauen, it would be a time of celebration, it would be a time of harvest or the end of harvest. It would be a time of lighting bonfires and wearing costumes in order to, you know, make your, the other world, the other spirits, appeased or happy or feel comfortable. It's interesting because, if you look at the calendar, at that time, the new year actually started November 1st. So November 1st is what they call the witch's new year, right? So from November 1st to October 30th is a full year, right? Well, then there was this time outside of time is what they called it. October 31st was considered the time outside of time. It was a time where they didn't really know what to do with this time, and so this was a time for the day at the Rome. This was a time for those who were on the other side, beyond the veil, to show up and be a part of family, be a part of whatever experiences they need to be a part of, and so it wasn't something that was that would produce a fear factor. It was something that was actually welcomed because it was something so normal the time outside of time. So you would typically leave a plate or something out for your ancestor. If you were eating dinner that night, you would have a plate. You would have a plate at the table for your ancestors. That way, you would do something that would make them feel comfortable. Oftentimes you would leave a candle in the window or a candle at the front door for your ancestors to find home. Right, you'll put their name on it or whatever in the ancestor to find home, like their address. So this was all a part of the celebration of Sawa and the celebration of what we call Halloween.
Speaker 3:The dressing up was actually a fun part because it was there to actually make us, take us outside of our trapped human expression and put us into a more, you know, celebratory, more expansive perception of hey, I could be anything I want. I could be a ghost, I could be a witch, I could be, you know, whatever, and you could have fun in that. But it was also because the veil was so thin. You didn't want to spook out folks on the other side of the veil. You didn't want to spook them out, so you would dress up in these ways. So, anyway, just a brief history of Halloween. Of course, when it got taken over by the Christian church and they couldn't do anything with it like they could change Christmas or Saturnalia, which we'll talk about that during Christmas time they would change that into Christmas.
Speaker 3:Instead of the worship of the sun, god, saturn, it was worship of the son of god, jesus. They would take that. Well then they couldn't do really anything with Halloween or with Sawa, and they couldn't really do anything with it. So they had to change it to all souls day, that's when all souls would be recognized. All souls would be celebrated and prayed for or whatever. So anyway, halloween is not supposed to be a fearful thing. It's supposed to be a celebration for all of those who celebrate Halloween. Happy Halloween, and that's that on that.
Speaker 2:And it's interesting to note, in the opposite hemisphere that I believe in Mexico you have the day of the dead yeah, the dead as muertos, and how uptoned that is, how colorful it is and it's a happy day. It's not a fearful day, which you know. It borders on a parasyne and the anthology type of thing, because typically, without some accent making it into fear or some religious body turning it into a fearful thing, people were aware of people on the other side of the veil, those on the other side of the veil, and they were respectful to them especially. Well, I mean, you see how respectful they are in Southeast Asia to them. You know, with the office and all that stuff, and you know you were telling me the other day that the houses that they provide, but in fact yeah for the dead.
Speaker 3:So give this for those of you Exactly For those of you who have never been to like a person who is from Southeast Asia, from Asian countries.
Speaker 3:If you go to their home, in the backyard or somewhere around their premises, they will have this thing called a ghost house and that's the. That's what I've been told is called. I don't know the colloquial name for it, but it's called a ghost house, and a ghost house is where you don't want spirits to roam around your inside your house. So you give them, like a little, a ghost house and that's their house outside of your house and you make it nice. You want a nice ghost house. It's like a think about like a dollhouse, right, and you have your Barbie inside the dollhouse and she has her own room, she has her own bed, she has all sinkin dishes and everything, and so you have a little ghost house out back and you bring them food and you put so if everybody's in barbecue, you don't leave me on them out, you know you bring me on them some barbecue. And so the ghost house was a way to keep them out of your house and they have their own space is really interesting.
Speaker 2:And they said look at that backsplash, Isn't that lovely. It was like this is nice.
Speaker 3:This is a nice house.
Speaker 2:That open floor plan. So, yes, yeah, so you're respecting the dead, you're being homage to them. Now the where this crosses over into fear. So what do we got on why the Catholic Church decided to make this dark? What was, what was? What do you think the purpose was?
Speaker 3:on that, Well, well, totally. They couldn't do anything with it, right? Because it didn't jive with their Christology, it didn't fit in with their theme, but it was something that the pagans really enjoy celebrating. You can, you can separate them from it, so you had to co-opt it or take it over to say, oh well, we need to make this a little bit more to fit our narratives, right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly, so you had to change it into something that so the all souls day, all saints day sometimes. Sometimes we'll call it all saints day, but all souls day was a time, for it still fit into their narrative. We can still pray for our dead, daily departed. We can pray for them, or whatever. If you go down to you mentioned Mexico if you go to Mexico, they still have a Santa Muerte.
Speaker 3:Santa Muerte is the saint of death. Right, there's a saint of death. So all the other saints, which is usually men. There's some female saints as well, but mostly males. Santa Muerte is the female Right and she is dead, but she's not a dead human being, she is a saint of the dead itself and she really usually is associated with protection, with healing, with finances. Like she was big because, like all the money that you would ever accumulate in your lifetime, she actually already had it for you. So if you needed money now, you would go to Santa Muerte and you would say my son, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta get some money, we need to handle this bill, we need to take it as well. She said, oh, no problem, you got, you got inheritance, you got riches, and she would send you money.
Speaker 2:You got money on account.
Speaker 3:So Santa Muerte is somebody. They say, yeah, it's already there for you, so anyway. But the Catholic Church had to try to co-opt it to make it so that it fits into their narrative. But so they actually tried to pacify it to make it a little bit more acceptable to Christians. But they also tried to demonize it, to make it those who are pagans to steer away from that, because that's the demons and the devils come out and then you're covering the Jesus.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's important to note that the education level of the broad general public at the time was extremely low, so they would believe pretty much anything you told them, especially if it came from altitude from the prevailing church in town or Well, such and such Right. Right. So that brings us to why fear.
Speaker 3:What is that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. What is fear, would you tell us?
Speaker 3:Well, so I want to start off this conversation by, first of all, what are you so afraid of, right? What are you so afraid of when you think about life and our immortality as spiritual beings, when you think about the grand cosmos of all, that is, when you think about the expansion of the universe and the fullness of time, if you work with that, when you think about these things, what are you so afraid of? Well, lrh says that fear is the condition of alertness, that for counter efforts. So you alert about counter efforts. What's going to stop me? What's going to stop me? What's going to stop me? What's going to hurt me? What's going to come with it? Counter efforts that threaten survival. So fear is a condition of alertness for counter efforts that threaten survival. So, when you look around your life, those things that we are afraid of or have fear concerning, on some level, we consider that a counter effort to our life, our experience, our existence, and it threatens our survival. Financial threats, personal body threats, you know that kind of thing. Fear is that kind of condition.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's interesting. It just popped in my head because I've been going over the axioms with new PCs lately, about the axiom on sweeping or fixed attention. Now it's interesting to me that fear is a dispersal because you're looking around, there are bear coming out of there. What was that noise? You know ghosts and campfires and things like that and you know was that was that. Did you hear that type of a thing? And it's a dispersal, but it's, it's fixed on. Your attention is fixed on unknown threats, unknown dangers.
Speaker 2:And this is something that we see in our modern day society almost in its entirety, and you know that's how they sell you products, that's how they sell you on everything. Bad news fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear. You know, we see it in our podcast titles we were talking about. I was talking about that.
Speaker 2:The other day podcast titles that are negative, negative, negative, negative are the ones that get the most listens. Because what Fear I need to know about this? Scientology girls biggest, biggest viewed video is the one on how to spot a Scientologist. What's that Fear I want to know? When somebody's looking me in the eye, are they a Scientologist? Look at them. They look like a robot Because they have a good TR zero and it's interesting how this is. This is the dichotomy of this is that fear is annoying to confront, thank you, but when somebody's confronting them, it's yes, it creates them, to make them feel fearful.
Speaker 2:How is?
Speaker 3:that Well, because this is so good, so, so get this. So let me, let me give you the fullness of this, because fear per LRH, fear is fast and uncontrolled flow. It is a dispersal. So he just said this right, anything can come out of nowhere. Anything can come and get you, anything could be, or whatever, whatever. So it's fast and uncontrolled flow. This is how you get startled. We might say so, you startled me. You know it's fast and uncontrolled, or whatever. And so so I get it that something coming at you fast, something that you don't seemingly control, is something that can produce fear in you. I totally get that.
Speaker 3:I think what ends up happening is is that if we don't think we know what's going to happen, we don't know what this is about, or know how Scientologists behave, or you know whatever, whatever. Then that creates this uncontrollable, right. Is this this uncontrollable factor in my existence? There's a, there's a person who is a previous offender, you know, in my neighborhood, or there's a person who is people who are breaking into houses around here, or whatever. And so this, there's this whole idea that if I cannot control this flow, it puts me in fear. So my thought is what can I control, right. My thought is like what can I control and you know when, when people buy guns or when people do certain things that particular? I was in South Africa, I was in Johannesburg, and Johannesburg is some. That's a crazy space.
Speaker 1:You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's an uncontrolled flow of you. Will people just come out of nowhere and just do stuff to you? Anyway, my point is is that I was there and I did. I could feel the fear in the air. It was palpable. It was palpable when you walk down the street and VGC, or whatever, whatever the business district, and you can feel people, men and women, when just women, men and women would be so, would be so, you know, gripped with this thing, this uncontrolled flow. So all I say is this when you're in those situations where there's a fast and uncontrolled flow, when there's a dispersal of energy, of everything going on, or whatever, whatever, everything which you can control and put yourself in a state of a knowingness about that, in my case I can control me, I can control my emotions, I can control my breathing, I can control, you know, my eyesight. What am I looking at, what am I seeing? And that makes me less fearful. What about?
Speaker 2:you. Well, you know that's what a locational is is for us to bring a person into present time. And if, in traveling for the better part of three decades, I would always look at a map and I'd try and find out where the all of the anchor points were, whether it was a mall, because I was looking for busy traffic intersections, that sort of thing. Here, for example, I have to keep my head on a swivel because, like you said, you know it can come out of nowhere. I mean you back your car into your garage in case they they bum rush you while you're going into your garage so you can pull out and run them over in case they're coming in to take your car and your house and your life and all of that stuff. So you know it's. It's a dangerous environment thing and dependent upon how much control you have of that environment or awareness.
Speaker 3:He says there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he says the state of imperception and an unwillingness to confront. So if you're confront higher, you're not so much or at all in fear. But you have to be in present time in order to do that sort of thing and know what the risks are. But throughout history, for example, you know the connotation is well, you see these churches in the U S it's not trick or treat for Halloween anymore, it's, it's a. What is it? I think it's not trick, but it's something else. They took the. They took the trick.
Speaker 3:Really yeah, they changed the name of trick, or?
Speaker 2:treat. Change it from trick or treat to something else. I forget what it is, but it's it's. It's really funny. They were trying to take the negative connotation out of trick or treat and turn it into trunk or treat. That's what it was, and I don't understand what that means, but I saw that a lot.
Speaker 3:What does that mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know. So you know it's. It's really a matter of what your confront is on things, but when you're controlling the information, that's when you can create fear. It's the unnotice of it, of it, that that makes people fear, and for anything to persist, there's a lie behind it. That's what makes people stay in fear. You know, like with COVID, for example is is it persist, persist, persist, persist, persist and people start to believe it and they start to be in fear of it. And when they're not getting sick as an example, they'll still believe it, even with all the red flags that were going on.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that's, that's my take on you as far as the fear part goes is is it's only fear? It's only fearful if they keep you in the dark on it. And and to go back to the Scientology thing, why do people fear Scientologists? That is a is a really good question. Maybe because of the negative that's in the news about them?
Speaker 3:Well, well, let me, can I say something about that please? Because I'm so tired, I'm so stupid. So, first of all, first of all, the only negative thing, the only negative thing that they're really saying, is that mind control, that's like the biggest thing, right, and I know you've talked about this at Nauseum Throughout your Podcast. Go back and listen to the podcast, guys. If you're not on the YouTube channel, go onto the YouTube channel, subscribe, become a subscriber. We're trying to get the numbers up there, like comment and share on the videos. That really helps out the viewership. But let me say this because the only issue, the biggest issue that I've heard, is mind control. Right, I don't really get it, but I guess I do. When you want somebody that has a mind under control, like when you want that to be a thing, versus somebody who is uncontrollable, because somebody who's who don't get and then see and then perceive and not aware of what am I missing? I'm sorry, I mean.
Speaker 2:Scientology is knowing how to know, and I was thinking earlier when you were talking about this. As far as what? What is a miswithhold? A miswithhold is you have a fear that somebody knows something about what you've done. Now reverse that. What is somebody? Somebody knows more than you do. You're going to be afraid of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that that's part of it?
Speaker 3:No, I think it is. I think I think. Well, even LRA says here fear is is when you're avoiding communication with and wanting to be elsewhere. So if you're avoiding communication with Scientologists, if you're avoiding communication with independent sides you can call me anytime, okay. If you're avoiding communication with, then that's going to create some kind of unknown, some kind of fear factor, right? And it creates this thing that I don't want to be with them, I don't want to be there, I don't want to deal with them, I'm not comfortable around these people.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, and so.
Speaker 3:I just I just think that, yeah, you want to distance yourself from that. I think that communicating and opening up that calm line with Scientologists, with understanding, and talking to somebody who knows at least what they're talking about on some level, versus just media, media, media I think it's a good thing. But I guess I was making my point, you know, kind of tongue in cheek, but I was saying it from the perspective of this. Like if I had to talk to somebody who has done extensive work in their on their mind and understanding the mind and understanding the way the mind works, and understanding knowing what to know and knowing thoughts, and you know, whatever, whatever, I will be okay with having that conversation with that person.
Speaker 3:Now, I believe, when they start talking about OT abilities and Receptics and being able to be aware of certain things or whatever, whatever, I think that's the scary part, because these people got powers, these people know what they, these people know how to manifest, these people know how to do certain things. And that can be scary because what are they manifesting, especially when you can't trust somebody, right? What are they? What are they manifesting? What are they bringing about? What kind of societal changes are they trying to institute here?
Speaker 3:You know, that whole thing. People are so funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and a good example of that is you know the the witch hunts that occurred in the 15s and 1600s. You know it's arguable to say whether whether speaking of Halloween speaking of Halloween is because, well, I mean a lot of, a lot of the, the women that were that this was put upon. Were they they?
Speaker 2:they had financial assets that others wanted, or they they had the ability to communicate and they knew how to have people's minds who were far less educated and they were, they were afraid of them and what they could do and and shake their, their power base. We still see that. We still see that today, and that's, I think, part of the reason why people are afraid of quote, unquote, the state of OT, because somebody has the ability to perceive and know about what's going on, and that's why I think Scientology was taken out in the first place.
Speaker 2:Is it gave people abilities, either you know, for for lesser or for greater, that threatened the establishment and this is something that's been palpable all along the whole track is that if those that in power felt like they were threatened, well, all they needed to do is put fear in the hearts of the people about the person who had power that they wanted but didn't control.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. The reason why the witches were such a threat to the church is because, number one, they were defiant. Even the Bible literally says the, the, the sin of witchcraft is rebellion. This is really says that the sin of which graph is a rebellion. That's the only sin of which graph that they're rebellious. They don't agree or they don't conform to our standards. That's the really the sin of which crap. And so you know, if you're a billion spirit, you might be a witch, Like you know. So this is this whole idea that if you don't conform with our standard of being, of living, of experience of life, then you cannot be here and we will do things to try to take you out. And so so, when fear creeps in to our spirit and to our hearts and to our minds, how, how might we? We talked about communication, right, how do you get in communication with that which you fear? You said a location was one way.
Speaker 2:Well, the others the ARC triangle is have enough confront to have a dialogue with people that that you are afraid of and confront them and and and you know as a kid, you see, you see old folks and their faces are, you know, rigged golden and you know you're afraid of them. But when you get to talk to them as a kid and everything, you find out that there's some of the nicest people you would ever meet. But you've got to get in communication with them first.
Speaker 3:Right or the meanest or the meanest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's 5050. But you know, there are some, some curmudgens, for sure, but it's one of those.
Speaker 3:Those things is crap tree.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, you know they're. They're unhappy, so everybody else has to be unhappy, but you know that yeah that's a.
Speaker 2:That's the thing is that you have to get in communication with the person or the environment that that dark cave. Go in and explore that dark cave safely and find out that it's not nearly as bad. Because people tend to create drama, ties fear to a point to where it is unconfrontable. I don't want to go in. You go in. No, you go in. No, I don't. I'm not going to. You go in. That's what you run into is fear blocks, knowing this, but it's a self-created thing based off of earlier incidents that a person has where something bad happened and it's going to happen again. A equals A equals A. That prevents them from getting in communication. But you have to put a line out there and then go from there. That's the only way that you can do that.
Speaker 3:I like the idea of the ARC Triangle II from the point of the R factor, the reality point, arc reality, because I think that sometimes that which we fear the most I think scripture says that what you fear the most has come upon you. The thing that we fear the most is actually from us, it's a part of us. My mama used to always say I'm from Alabama, y'all so y'all got to forgive me my little colloquial terms and phrases. My mama used to always say a hurt dog a holla, a hurt dog, a holla. So if somebody says something about you, if somebody you know say a bad word about you or tries to bully you or whatever, if you cry, it's because it's somewhere in you, somewhere they hit true. They say it's something about you that really stung right, because a hurt dog, a holla. And so if there's something that you're afraid of, find a way to find your R factor, your reality point, with it. What of this thing is like me, what of this thing is a part of me, what of this thing is there, you know, am I one with it? And what ends up happening is you realize that wait a minute that's not as fearful as I thought it was, or it's fearful because of what's going on in me.
Speaker 3:There's an African proverb that says the enemy the enemy with. There's no enemy without, only the enemy within. There's only the enemy within Right. And so the enemy is within you. Well, why is that? The inner me, the enemy is the inner me. Is that, is that part of me, that let that lower part of myself that is so I'm afraid to confront, I'm afraid to deal with that inner child they call it you know, yeah, that you're afraid to deal with confusion and stable data.
Speaker 2:Instead of grabbing that, that, that particle and using it as a stable data, and grabbing another particle and another and another, you tend to tend to shy away and stay in confusion and not confront, and so it drives you, and you know where this comes into, a parasyntology type of thing. Is it is fear. Is you know somebody? If I said, okay, do a clay demo of fear, okay, without using bodies as a subjective thing, fear, fear is entire. When I say, you know, get, get the concept of fear, it's very, very palpable, but you can't point to any one thing and say fear that is fear, because it's a subjective thing.
Speaker 3:Wow, that brought to mind, if you remember, in Harry Potter, my Potter files in the room. But if you remember Harry Potter and one of the first classes in the, the physicals, the dark arts, one of the first lessons they learned to confront a boggart which would, when it came out at you, it would present to you as your worst fear, a boggart, and then you would have to say ridiculous and you would turn into something funny. You know, yeah, but fear. Every person had a different fear.
Speaker 2:It was a spider.
Speaker 3:It was this, it was a that. It was that, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and you see it. You see it in literature and you see it in film a lot. George Lucas brought that up with the force and the dark side is the dark side of the force.
Speaker 2:Fear is your, your enemy, and that's that's what you know draws you towards the dark side is to lash out and use anger in order to conquer fear, instead of no and a solution will present itself, type of a thing. So it's everywhere in literature and in film that there are different ways to lighten it up and analogories in order to understand fear, because you can't point at anything and say fear because fear is just the unknown.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, wow, this is good, so come. So confronting would definitely be the solution. We've often said in the past to bullies that you, you got to face your fears, you got to confront that bully, you know, or whatever the case may be, and so confronting would definitely be the way to overcome your fears. But what if a person can't confront right it says an unwillingness to confront right. What if a person is not there yet, like I can't. I just can't confront it right, like I. We can also talk about reaching withdrawal right. Reaching withdrawal where you, where you reach for something and you withdraw from it. You reach for something, withdraw from it, and that lessens each time you do it. It lessens your fear of it.
Speaker 2:Right. Well, I mean you could do a process because all auditing processes are are reached and withdraw, which is also confusion, and stable datum as well. Tell me something you can't confront. Tell me something you can confront. Tell me something that you can't confront and you do that back and forth and you get the person to do that a few dozen times. Their confront comes up.
Speaker 2:That's with that as a as a simple, you know, repetitive process, because it is fear is the only thing stopping anybody from doing anything. And that and what that comes down to, is where he, where he says these, these little lines of lint are holding you down, and that is your own considerations, and considerations and fear are the same thing that what you consider is because considerations are seen into the physical universe, and this is how, quote unquote, they get you, because it's like reading a book. When you're reading a book, you, whatever the author is, is telling you and is, is illustrating for you in words. You're illustrating in your own mind's eye, and that's why the book, the movie, is never as good as the book, because you can create something far better than in your mind In your mind than anything can in Hollywood.
Speaker 2:You know, and, and, and the best, the best horror stories never, ever really show you the monster, because you create the monster far better, far better than you ever could on the screen. It's the unspeakable.
Speaker 3:I used to hate that I used to hate. Why don't they show the monster? What is it?
Speaker 2:Right Because.
Speaker 3:I guess I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the monster is your own case.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's it. That's why I love horror movies. I'm going to tell you this right now I love horror movies and I never get rarely get interpolated by them. Not never, but rarely do I get interpolated by them. Now there's some stuff that I know and I've experienced that that be like oh yeah, that's shit real.
Speaker 2:But yeah. Well and this is an interesting point to make. Is that anything, anything that you can conceive in your mind's eye, has existed on the whole track? That's it. That's why movies like Alien scare the bejesus out of people so much that there is, there is an entity, a being out there that is such a cold, methodical killer. There were some things that they will eat you you know, and it's just on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, personifies that sort of a thing. So right, that brings it back to you. May not really know it, but it's there, it's there and you've experienced it and you've seen it, and there's some pretty darn scary things on the whole track. Like LA, it says, earth is plastic compared to other things on the whole track, or what's really out there in some places. So we're on an island in the Pacific with palm trees and coconuts in comparison.
Speaker 3:That's amazing. So I want to. I want to end off with this. We have about five minutes. I want to end off with this because when we talk about being able to experience anything, which is one of the one of the rules of happiness, right, the two rules of happiness be able to experience anything, that takes a lot of confront, that takes a huge level of confront, to be able to experience anything in nuclear bomb. Anything yeah, I can, I can experience that. You know. Whatever, whatever, right, be able to experience anything.
Speaker 3:So, as I was looking at the gray chart, the bridge, right, as I was looking at the bridge, and if you look in the middle there, at those characteristics of awareness, right, you look at the middle of, like, what does a person have to go through and get up to right Need of change is at the very bottom, or at the very bottom. But where you get into the bridge need of change and then you get into demand for improvement, you get going to hope, help, recognition, then around grade zero. This is so good when you start your grades. Grade zero is when you get into recognition and then into communication. Well, what is fear? Avoiding communication with right.
Speaker 3:Fear causes one to avoid communication with an unwillingness or not wanting to be there. So at grade zero is when you handle communication Well then you get from a communication right A blow. That at three is perception. Well, what is fear? It says the state of imperception and unwillingness to confront. So is it true that around grade zero grade one, you complete grade one or whatever, whatever a lot of those fears melt away. Is that a thing?
Speaker 2:It is because on grade one you're looking at help and in most people's minds, help becomes betrayal because you've been betrayed. When somebody said I want to help you, yeah, that's one of people. Somebody's, almost anybody's fear is why are you helping me? Right, you know? Because people don't come along wanting to help people unless they want something. And that's one of the biggest fears and that's one of the problems with our society is fear of betrayal.
Speaker 2:Fear of betrayal, because you know why would somebody want to help you, right? I think that's one of the biggest fears that people have is betrayal. And you know, betrayal LRH says is is as huge of a button as it is because of the OT3 band.
Speaker 3:That is a whole different conversation, absolutely. But it's so funny. My granny, my granny, I tell you she's really, she was really into this whole thing or whatever, and she used to always say she would never say let me help you. She was like baby let me help you, I'm trying to help you, she would say hope. She wouldn't say help, I'm trying to help you, let me help you, and hope is just before. Let me get you up to hope at least, because where you at work and you need to, you need some improvement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's haveable.
Speaker 3:Right, let me help you. Come here, baby, let me help you. And then oh my God, that's so interesting you say that, listen, this has been good, because if you can put some of these things is what we say working with confronting TR0. Complexity and confronted yeah, mm, hmm, tr0, working with confronting, complexing, confronting working with locationals, doing some of the assist, working with reach and withdraw, working with ARC triangle.
Speaker 3:And just getting and just getting auditing, getting in auditing to get some of those things off of you that have thrown you into dramatization, throwing you into your own stuff. Just by getting that stuff off, you really, really can help Absolutely. There were some of our fears.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Plexity and confronting that which is complex. There's something there you're not willing to confront. Figure out what it is you're not willing to confront and then you can confront it, because it is the area of complexity. So, folks, I hope you've enjoyed this. The whole point of this is there really isn't a whole heck of a lot of fear, except what you're putting there yourself, and that is the sum of a person's case. Auditing TRs can help. That Objectives so many tools that we have in independent Scientology to help you with this area of fear. And this will be closing out our six-part Parasyntology podcast and we'd like you to comment, share and engage with us on YouTube, listen to the podcast. We're going to start doing video podcasts here, hopefully tomorrow, with the beginning of November, we can get the whole thing together and we'll have video podcasts on YouTube and then the audio on all of our regular podcast channels For Quentin and myself. We hope you've enjoyed this, namaste, and we love you Peace.