Imagine being able to calculate a person's potential value. Fascinating, isn't it? This episode, we're offering incredible insights into deciphering an individual's potential value across several aspects of their life, including intelligence and dynamic. Quentin's unique perspective on this LRH concept provides a roadmap to understanding people in our lives in a more profound way, ultimately enhancing our personal and professional relationships.
As we unravel the concept of potential value, we delve into the significance of persistence and intelligence. These twin pillars of success are vital in any endeavor, and we discuss how auditing can nurture these traits. Drawing from the wisdom of Thomas Edison, we highlight the need to persist in any course of action without making snap judgments. The conversation takes a deeper turn as we consider the concept of 'negative potential value' and how it affects our ability to achieve our goals.
In the final part of our engaging discussion, we emphasize the need for increasing potential value and the role of auditing in this process. We integrate the themes of persistence and intelligence, underlining their importance in achievement. Quentin and I encourage you to reflect on your potential value and those around you. Challenge yourself to see beyond the obvious, and you'll be amazed at the value you'll find. So, sit back, tune in, and prepare to change the way you perceive potential value in a being forever.
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Imagine being able to calculate a person's potential value. Fascinating, isn't it? This episode, we're offering incredible insights into deciphering an individual's potential value across several aspects of their life, including intelligence and dynamic. Quentin's unique perspective on this LRH concept provides a roadmap to understanding people in our lives in a more profound way, ultimately enhancing our personal and professional relationships.
As we unravel the concept of potential value, we delve into the significance of persistence and intelligence. These twin pillars of success are vital in any endeavor, and we discuss how auditing can nurture these traits. Drawing from the wisdom of Thomas Edison, we highlight the need to persist in any course of action without making snap judgments. The conversation takes a deeper turn as we consider the concept of 'negative potential value' and how it affects our ability to achieve our goals.
In the final part of our engaging discussion, we emphasize the need for increasing potential value and the role of auditing in this process. We integrate the themes of persistence and intelligence, underlining their importance in achievement. Quentin and I encourage you to reflect on your potential value and those around you. Challenge yourself to see beyond the obvious, and you'll be amazed at the value you'll find. So, sit back, tune in, and prepare to change the way you perceive potential value in a being forever.
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Speaker 2:Hi and welcome to another AOGP Outside of the Church podcast. This is season seven, episode four. I'm here with Quentin Stroud and today we're going to talk about the concept of potential value in a being, and this is something Quentin wanted to talk about, so I'm going to let him take the lead on this and we will get the ball rolling. Quentin's really good with these types of things and I'm just going to chime in. I have something to add to it because he's great with us. So over to you, sir.
Speaker 3:Well, I tell you what this is a good topic and when I first saw this reference in the book Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Health, just as a background, I've been a 22-year, 23-year Scientologist and have a peer of completion now going up the bridge and doing my thing up the bridge and super excited about just continuing to increase my personal value, right, increase my personal value, and in my life and in the people that I connect with, it's always been important for me to connect with people who I think are high value individuals and, of course, the modern version of that means money. Of course, people talk about money and how much money one has, but, more than anything, people understanding that value, or LRH value is definable. I'll even say one can even calculate the value of people. Okay, so, whether it be your banker, whether it be your boss, whether it be a potential employee or somebody you're trying to hire, whether it be a potential maid or somebody in your life or a partner, no matter who it is, you can actually take a look and you can see what is the potential value of this person. Now, when we look and see how this is calculated I'm going to say that in a second but when you look at this, what areas of your life are really most impacted by this?
Speaker 3:Clearly, you've heard the saying I can do bad all by myself. Right, I can do bad all by myself. I'll need nobody else for that. If you ain't going to bring no value to the table, if you ain't going to bring no benefit to the table what we do, it right.
Speaker 3:So clearly, if it's just you, and it's just you functioning in your own universe, you can do whatever you want to do. You can live however you want to live. You can be whatever you want to be, right. But when you start mixing other people, other universes we talked about this in the factors when you start mixing other universes in, when you start mixing all these other things into it, you now have to not just live for yourself but you also have to live for other universes. So LRH had to help us kind of get an awareness about wait a minute, how do you see who might be a potential value or of potential value to you? It's further detailed in the book the Science of Survival and you can really go through that book and really see, like where a person falls on the chart of human evaluation Exactly, you can see where a person falls, all in that.
Speaker 3:But let's go. Let's start with Dianetics. So in the book Dianetics, in the axioms of Dianetics, right before you get to the logics, he says this he says that the potential value of an individual or group may be expressed by the equation PV, which is the potential value, equals ID to the exponent, to the X power. So I is intelligence and D is dynamic. So he says here that the worth of an individual is computed in terms of the alignment on any dynamic of his potential value, with optimum survival along that dynamic, paul's. So with optimum survival along the dynamic. So you can look at any dynamic on a person. Let's just start with the first dynamic. So a person might be very intelligent, right? Oh, super smart. Oh, my God, you're so articulate that it all these wonderful things.
Speaker 3:But if you look at their first dynamic and it ain't popping right, you know what I'm talking about. The first dynamic is not, it's not flowing quite right, something is off, something ain't looking right, something ain't right about their body, something ain't right about their breath, something about their teeth. You can look in their eyes and don't see the life in their eyes. You know what I'm talking about. You don't see the life in there anymore. Whatever's going on with this person, you can tell something's off a bit. Hear me. So the intelligence might be there. We're going to talk about the intelligence in a minute. The intelligence might be there, but if just on the first dynamic, to the degree for what he says here. He says that it says that the worth of an individual is computed in terms of the alignment on any dynamic of his potential value, with optimum survival along that dynamic. So if the first dynamic is dwindling you can go ahead and say the potential value might be kind of going out a little bit right.
Speaker 3:And you can look at a person's mess, you can look at their six dynamic, you can look at how they live and how their home is, how their car is, how their situation is, what can they have? Is what they have in good repair, that kind of thing. And you can tell just by looking at that dynamic. Right, it says, along that dynamic, if the optimum survival ain't hidden, the potential value might be going down right. And I think this was such a good thing for LRH to kind of give us, because it's important to kind of know who these people are, that's coming in and out of your life and how you can kind of move in and through it, how you can kind of experience that person and realize whether this is a potential value or not. So much Does that make sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, and it's important to note that where it's mentioned in the asiams, when he's talking about dynamic, he's not just talking about their eight dynamics, he's talking about how dynamic they are.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:That's, that's, that's the key. How dynamic are they? You've got somebody that's sitting watching TV with a remote, you know, and is a couch potato. They're not. They're not really terribly dynamic. And if they're out working in the soup kitchen and they're, they're going to the gym and you know they're running three businesses and they're taking care of all of these things and and you know, I guess an old term would be Joie de Vieve you know they're really into that and they're really making changes in the physical universe and getting things done.
Speaker 2:That would be dynamic. Yeah, you know, if you have dynamic audio it sounds really good. If it's non dynamic it sounds like lo fi.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:As an example. Well, let's look at that in life and how dynamic are they? How can they make changes? How can they get things done? Are they getting things done? Are they improving things across all of the dynamics or just the first dynamic?
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, and that brings us, then, to take a look at the other version of the part of that right, which is intelligence. And per axiom six, l R H says that intelligence is the ability of an individual group or race to resolve problems related to survival. Intelligence is the ability to perceive, pose and resolve problems. Okay. So when can they say, oh, he's smart. Okay, smart ain't necessarily intelligent. Does that make sense to you? Just because somebody is smart, don't mean they intelligent.
Speaker 3:Intelligence is the ability to perceive the right problem, pose a solution and then resolve that problem. Resolve, re-solve, re-solve. I tell you, all the time you, when you get into an argument with somebody or whatever, it's not resolved until it's re hyphen, solve, old. What does that mean? Re-means again and again and again. That means, if this problem comes up again, we already got a resolution. If this problem comes up again, it's already resolved. Is this problem comes up again? We already got it. We already know what to do. We already know what to do, we already know what to do. So you, so a intelligent person, hear me, can perceive, pose and resolve problems as as they present themselves, if a person is in your life, or a person is, is operating with you or whatever, whatever, and they can't see the problem. Where's what's the value? Why are you here? You don't even know what the issue is. You don't know. We do them with mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Right, right. So you're looking at, you're looking at potential Value and you're also looking at Value. Now, can you explain the difference between those?
Speaker 3:Well, well, obviously, when we're talking about potential value, we're talking about Looking at what this person can be, what this person can become, what this person can do right, has the ability to right, and that's why ID to the exponent, to the X power, is so important, because we're looking at what where's, what is your ability to do these things? I'm gonna look at your intelligence and I'm gonna look at your dynamic, that dynamic thrust, a dynamic flow, that dynamic that you call. That's your adivis, that way of approaching life, in a way that says I want to be around this person, I want this person to, to, to be a part of my flow. You know what I mean. That's the kind of people you want to surround yourself with right now.
Speaker 2:It's important to note also in a mathematics sense, that I next to D means I times D to that power, right. So to the degree that you're intelligent and to the degree that you are dynamic, then you get your your 10th to the 10th power, the hundredth power or whatever, and it it could also be said that you know, with auditing a person can increase their intelligence, can increase their dynamics. Yes, example like with L11, which is due because when a person is dynamic, there's a lot of doing this involved their dynamic, but there's also being this and having this as well. To bring up B Do have again too, that's right, that's super important. But With auditing you get much more of a dynamic going where they can do more and they can Really get things done.
Speaker 3:That's that's my take well what LRH says here. He says that both the dynamic and Intelligence are necessary to persist and Accomplish, and neither is constant quantity of it from an individual to individual, group to group. So both dynamic that that? That go get that. I'm gonna do something about this problem, I'm gonna do something about this situation, right, that go get it. Ness and the intelligence to perceive, pose and resolve the problem. Both of them are necessary to persist and Accomplish anything, right? This is why potential value so important. Let me tell you something, and it's not I want to get this across truly One thing I love about being a Scientologist, and especially in understanding the, the spirit in which LRH gave of these materials it wasn't to be judgmental, it wasn't to be a prick, it wasn't to be a jerk, it wasn't to be whatever, whatever.
Speaker 3:I'm just looking at the potential value, I'm looking at the data, I'm looking at what's, what's, what's being observed, right? Judgment, hear me guys, judgment, this whole idea of, of, of, like looking at somebody and looking down on them and whatever, whatever, that whole thing is something totally separate. He talks a lot about responsibility versus blame, right, mm-hmm? And how responsibilities of more high tone, blame is more low tone, right? The same thing with observation and judgment. There's one thing to be up to, be observing of something I listen, I've observed that this is the case, right. It's another thing to be judgmental about it. And so just because you observe something doesn't mean you're judgmental about it.
Speaker 3:And I'm saying that because when we're talking about a person's potential value, that sounds kind of you know Area, that sounds kind of like what do you mean? How do you know there's personal potential value, looking at their intelligence, versus the listen I'm observing and I can look at a situation clear enough, with enough Enough clarity of mind to say this is not working for me, right, this is not the value or the potential value that I desire to have. In my experience, and once you're able to do that Clearly, it takes out judgment and it puts in clarity, it puts, it puts in certainty. So so when it already says both dynamic, that power, that, that that thrust in you, dynamic and intelligence are both necessary to resolve, I'm sorry to persist and accomplish. These are the things that you want to look for when you're looking for the potential value of an individual in your life. I love this stuff.
Speaker 2:Well and dynamic can also be said to be like you were saying. As far as persistence, persistence on a given course you know, yeah, do they do. They do. They easily give up. And that goes back into the intelligence thing Okay, washrooms repeat. Okay, that didn't work. Okay, let's try this. That didn't work, okay, let's try this.
Speaker 2:So on and so forth right then that's, that is the Dynamic, or do they? Do they give up on things, that they start and then Not finish them and then go off in another direction? And they were going that way and then they're ending up going that way because it's, it's a dine. That's the dynamic persistence on a given course. And you, what was? What was it you were saying about, right, when you were talking about your, your, your dad, earlier, before we got on the podcast?
Speaker 3:so. So I mentioned this before in another cast, but my father was murdered when I was 13 years old and it's a lot of auditing, a lot of stuff. To kind of get me into a better place with it, I just some assistant in the whole bit go back and watch the one on assists very good podcast. But um, when I was young I was 13, as all I had was what I could come up with of my own to kind of get myself through it, I came up with this little Anecdote. It says the thing to do when a thing is dead is be sure you're right, then move ahead. The thing to do when a thing is dead is be sure you're right, take the time, figure it out, make sure you. What do we do when a person clear, clear with you three, four, five, ten times, whatever case it be, until the doctor finally has to call it Right and he calls it Okay, okay, time of death. 303 pm. Whatever the thing is right, the thing to do when the thing is dead is be sure you're right, then move ahead. And we go through a whole different process. You know, it's interesting because when you were just talking about Persistence and about going on a given course, and we were talking about intelligence as it relates to that as well.
Speaker 3:Thomas Edison said it this way and if you guys remember Thomas Edison, the Discovered, you know, the light bulb and all this other stuff or whatever. He says, I have not failed, I've just found ten thousand ways that it didn't work Right. So he kept going, kept trying, kept trying, kept trying. I have not failed. I just found ten thousand ways that didn't work for us, that didn't work to make this thing happen right. Another thing he said is our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is to always try just one more time. Mm-hmm, god, if you get this, always try just one more time. And this is coming from a very intelligent individual that was able to find out Some amazing inventions and discover some amazing visions or patent them, because he discovered all alone, but or patents of amazing inventions. So you know, these are some things that we can take in with a grain of salt at least, to kind of move ourselves into a place of being more persistent and finding that dynamic um towards a higher level of survival.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3:Do you have something you want to say?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, the the persistence on a given course thing is is very, very important in being dynamic, because you, you know, if, if you don't first succeed, try, try again. You know, and keep trying, and eventually you'll get it, and that takes that intelligence to figure out. You know, though, the why opens the door to a handling type of a thing, and and that's that's, that's persistence is dynamic. What what you know did? Did they let the physical unit for an universe knock them around, or do they try and figure out a better solution? That type of a thing and and you know, this is how you can pick your people is, you know, just watch. Did they give up on something or did they?
Speaker 2:they try, mm hmm, or they not, or you know. Like Yoda says, there is no try, only do Right.
Speaker 3:And you keep going into your accomplishment and and, in fact, if God, since you're a reference, yoda, now I gotta go there Because remember, when Luke was trying to lift the ship up and then Yoda, he couldn't do it, so Yoda did it and he goes. Oh my God, I can't believe it. He said I can't believe it, right.
Speaker 2:And. Yoda said that's why you fail Right, right and and you know, just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't mean it's useless, it's just you're not quite there yet. You're not quite there yet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So this is some good stuff. Now I want to share this with you because we're talking about the Dianetics axioms, and there's many of them, but in talking about the Dianetics axioms, I want to share this with you. Axiom number 103.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3:LRH says that intelligence depends on the ability to select aligned. Aligned, which means it's already laid out for you, or misaligned, which means I got to piece it all together. I got to figure it out, I got to pull it all together. Right, so to select aligned or misaligned data from an area of randomity. I want to make sure we get that word Randomity randomness random stuff.
Speaker 2:Super important point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mm, hmm. So intelligence depends upon the ability to select aligned or misaligned data from an area of randomity, and so discover a solution to reduce all randomity in that area. Mm, hmm. So when you're talking about somebody and you know, we quick to say, oh, she's so smart, he's so smart, oh, it made me so smart, my son is so smart, it's wonderful. The intelligence depends upon one's ability to select from aligned or misaligned data from an area of randomity Mm, hmm. And then you put it all together so to discover a solution. Now catch this. He then says what the solution must do. The solution must then reduce all randomity in that area. That means I know exactly how it's going to respond. I know exactly what's going to happen. I know exactly how to do this. I know exactly how to make it work. I know exactly how to do. You understand what I'm saying, like there's no right. I'm not confused anymore. There's no randomity. I know what the schedule is, I know what the course is, I know what the way is.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3:And if you can figure that out right, if you can become that person, that intelligent, dynamic, productive being, that's some high potential value man.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm, yeah, and you know, like the condition of confusion, you're selecting out a particle and you're selecting out another particle until there's no longer any confusion or any randomity. That's what intelligence is.
Speaker 3:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:Is the ability to take all these things and their value of importance and go, okay, this is what it's supposed to be, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And if you get it reversed, you keep figuring out until you've got these orders of magnitude on the whole thing to make sure that it can in fact be survival and be successful. And you have to look at well, if it's not working. What do I not know? Okay, what do I do know, what do I not know? What do I do know? And you start to know more and you start to know more and you start to not have less, you just keep getting more.
Speaker 2:And this, if you look at this like from LRH's standpoint, he was the best I've ever seen of anybody in my life that could take information and distill it down and go, okay, this is important, this is not important, this is important. And you see all of these things become the body of information in Scientology. You know, study tech wasn't a Scientology discovery. There was a married couple came up with this stuff and he was like, wait a minute, there's some value. Somebody came to him with this and he said, okay, let's check this out on the meter. And, sure enough, misunderstood words read, and then he already knew what he knew about over at some withholds. You know, there were people that brought things to him and he said, okay, this and this, all of his travels in East Asia, his travels with American Indians, all this stuff it is Scientology is a collective of the greatest hits, right, that people, because of their I'm going to be maybe a little crude here their lack of intelligence, it was right in front of them, they didn't see it, and because he was so good with the English language he could present it in a way that everybody could easily understand and go.
Speaker 2:That's, that's just common knowledge. But I never looked at it that way before type of a thing. Well, he made the unobvious obvious. It was not so common common knowledge that was then is then turned into giving people more of a more, of a better intelligence to then be more dynamic. Right, but you have to see the value of something. That's what intelligence is. What is the value of that thing or that person? And if you can't see the value of that thing or that person, then you're not not so intelligent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well so. So I wanted to reference this for a second, because we obviously talking about this resin dianetics and kind of Building up on that and the dianetic axioms, um, but in the, the CIO special briefing course, uh, and the free being lecture, uh, july 9, 1963, l R H Says well, all battles are won by a combination of two elements, and these are force and intelligence. The long-term win is achieved by a balance between force and intelligence. Right now, intelligent alone, intelligence alone is active in active action, is not enough. So you can't just be intelligent, you have to have some, some kind of activity behind it, right? Uh, there was an imbalance of intelligence and force and these two things were out of gear. And he just goes on to talk about how this, this perfect marriage between intelligence and doing this, okay, intelligence and activity, intelligence and force, and how those two things lined up gets you in Intelligence. He said now what it all amounts to. What is it all amount to? The intelligence, the intelligent use of intelligence.
Speaker 1:And force.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you've got to have force and you've got to have intelligence. If you don't have these two things, you haven't got anything. I'm giving you this for a reason Because we're talking about the potential value of a being when you're in some kind of situation, when you're when, when you're down to the wire, when, when stuff is Stuff has hit the fan and you got to figure out your way through some stuff. Right, you want to be in that trench with somebody who is ready to win. You want to be in that trench with somebody who is ready to fight. You want to be in that trench with somebody who is capable of using intelligence and force in order to come up with what he calls a long term win God, this is good a long term win, and somebody who's gonna jockey that and figure out that balance.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you might be too my mommy's always saying you too smart for your own good Right. So sometimes you might be too smart, but you don't have enough force. And sometimes you might be too forceful and you're not figuring it out, right, you're not. You're not looking at the right problem, opposing the right solutions. You understand what I'm saying so? So you got to balance those two things out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and that's that's a really important. It's really an important thing to note that when you get into those types of situations and you're looking at intelligence and dynamic, it's, it should suffice to say that you should not necessarily be thinking this thinking. Thinking and action Are two different things right what an OT does, is an OT perceives and just does, just goes.
Speaker 1:Yes they don't sit there and.
Speaker 2:No, you just and off you go, type of the thing, and that's that's where people's lives get saved. That's, you know these, these guys that are first responders and things like that. They A lot of that. Baby, you don't have any time to think you. You see that all the time in these newsrooms. I didn't have any time to think. I just went and did this and that was a very brave thing to do. My bravery had nothing to do with it. He just said that's the problem. I got to go fix it, kept his coat of honor in my. You know, my integrity is more important than than my immediate life. Bam and solved. That's dynamic.
Speaker 2:Yes no no thinky, Just do we.
Speaker 3:Thinky right, right, no, thinky. Well, and this is also where witty Inventions come up. Yeah, you know, stuff just kind of comes up out. I, oh my god, that's, that's an idea. Yes, brilliant, absolutely, it is because you went thinking, thinking.
Speaker 2:Right you're.
Speaker 3:You figured it out and you made it work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a. There's a super Super. There's two different series by a fellow, with the last, my last name, called james burke, from the 80s and the the late 70s and in the 80s, and what he did is these these shows were about connections, how we got from chicken feces to the nuclear bomb and what all the connections were. And they have these dramatizations where they reenact what this person, this inventor, was trying to solve, what kind of a problem they were trying to solve, and a lot of times the things that happened were sheer Accidents where they just did something and they found it out. More often than not they didn't plan it, they just did it and that led from chicken feces to the, the atomic bomb, and how we have all these different inventions and how everything is connected in one degree of separation is just, nobody knew all these things.
Speaker 2:It's super smart guy and shows you where these people got their necessity up and more dynamic to get something done, because there had to be a solution to it, otherwise people were going to die In most cases. Necessity is the mother of invention. That too is dynamic, but it that intelligence thing there is is. There's something to this and this is what we were talking about earlier, about the randomity, as they saw that and they said that's really interesting, because what do they use? Chicken feces in firecrackers and that's, and then you go to methane, and then you go to this and this. Then I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's the Chinese, that in China that one of the main components in gunpowder is chicken feces. I just, I mean, you know, this is, this is pv right here, potential value. And you look at this in the human race and you go, wow, uh, you know, that's. That's really incredible. There's another, another interesting line in this is screenplay, but it was for a movie, was the movie star man with Jeff Bridges and and towards the end of it, the, the lead scientist that's trying to protect him and and he's trying to get away Because the government wants to. You know, see what makes him tick this, this lead scientist. He says why, why are you interested in us here on earth? What, what, what, why, what would you want with us? And he says, when things are at their worst, you are at their very best.
Speaker 2:I love that and I was like, wow, that is really something, and see, that's, that's potential value. Yeah, when the chips are down, you people rise to the occasion and they solve these problems through necessity, because they're intelligent and they are dynamic.
Speaker 3:So so then, okay, that's wonderful, and and we get it right, like y'all, y'all, we on the same page, right? Potential value is is this, this, this equation of intelligence, times or multiplied times, dynamic, that, that, that fire, that thrust, that that go, get it, this in you, and it lines across the dynamics and you can look at any one dynamic and see how this is going to work out right. So that then, means the antithesis of this. The opposite of this Would be Somebody who is not Not of potential value or less. How would, how would we say it less valuable.
Speaker 2:Well, negative potential value. I mean it's.
Speaker 3:That's right. You're absolutely right. I'm sorry. Let me give you the reference, guys. It says here, in the same reference, in dynamics, axioms of dynamics, he says a high PV may, by reversed vector which means the opposite way result in a negative worth, as in some severely aberrated persons. A high PV on any dynamic assures a high worth only in the un-aberrated person. This is why getting auditing, this is why getting going clear, this is why getting yourself off the bridge, this is why these things are so important, because we understand that in grams right, it's factoring false data and properly created data into the analyzer. This is the dynamics Intelligence is inhibited by in grams, which feed false or improperly created data into the analyzer. So you think you're thinking right. You think you're saying the right stuff, you think you're talking right. Who am I talking to? You think you're talking right, but you might have some false data. You might have some improperly created information and you factored it into your analyzer. And you think you're talking right, but you're doing them to show your negative worth.
Speaker 2:Right, and that is the collateral of the n-grams that are making you look at one thing when it's really another, and so you're operating off of held down fives, as he says in the technical dictionary, is that every time you add up the answer it's going to be different, because the five key is sticking.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that gives you a negative potential value and that's where the higher tone selectively gives. On the tone scale type of a thing, because you're dealing with a below 2.0, you're dealing with a negative potential value. On the tone scale, which is the different tones are just levels of ARC with harmonics of all the others in the middle. So the higher toned you are, the more in ARC you are with your dynamic and your eight dynamics at the same time and you can properly analyze things or you cannot properly analyze things because there is something held down there that is giving you a wrong answer that disallows you to be dynamic or survive.
Speaker 3:Wait. So I want you to say that again. The higher tone selectively gives. Help me with that, because I never heard that before and that's good.
Speaker 2:Okay, what it means is if you've got two people and one person is, let's say, that person is at 3.5 on the tone scale 3.5. And the other person is at 2.1. In order for the person that is higher toned to be in ARC with the person who is lower toned, the higher toned person is going to drop down in order to be at parity with the person who is lower toned. And it's extremely difficult for a higher toned person to be with a significantly lower toned person. It's not as bad, but the wider the gap, the harder it is, because a higher toned person has to drop in ARC with their surroundings in order to be in communication with the person. You've got one person who's like I love children, I love to communicate. People's belongings are people's belongings, they're not my belongings and I take care of other people's things. And the other person is like what do you mean? I mean it's just stuff, my stuff is their stuff and I will use your toothbrush if I want to use your toothbrush.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it gets to be a problem there when the higher toned selectively gives. So you've got two choices not be around them or bring them up tone. So what you're dealing with is you're dealing with a person who has a higher PV and a person who has a lower or a negative PV if they're below 2.0 on the tone scale, and the person with the negative PV is going to drag the other person down in their potential value, and then you get PTSD and all this stuff when you get over it, some withholds involved in it and everything. So you have to selectively give. Now, this isn't just with people, this is with information, things you read, things you watch. If you're watching true crime and you're high toned, it's going to bring you down tone. If you're low toned and you're watching a comedy that makes you laugh, it's going to bring you up tone, at least for a little while. And you know this goes along with what LRH said about you know I can pop somebody out of their head, but the thing is is it's just going to cave back in in the short period of time, because life is going to cave them back in and then they're insane again. So it isn't something. It isn't something that is going to just stay there, because you have to improve their intelligence, you have to improve their dynamic through training, processing to get them to be aware.
Speaker 2:Remove the ingrams, remove the secondaries, remove the locks, key them out with Scientology auditing as well, not just just Dianetics, in order to pull up their PV and their intelligence and their dynamic. And then auditing exponentially increases that rapidly with a velocity of processing. A lot of times it's faster than the person realizes that things have changed because they have yet to catch up to what's just happened to them. I see it every day and there's a physical universe ComLag of six weeks in change. When you audit somebody that it might take six weeks or it might happen instantaneously.
Speaker 2:The L's, for example, bypass that ComLag and it's just boom, because what you're doing with grades auditing is you're randomly finding something for that person that's real to them because it's real to them right now. What's really bothering them isn't real to them because it's below their awareness. When you do like listening and knowing, you're getting that thing, the thing that is holding them back, and you get that answer. You give it to them. It's not keyed out, it's baloon. That increases the person's ability to think and their ability to do rapidly, like on an L11 type of a situation. You get on knots, for example, and everything. It's the same thing. You're just blowing this stuff so quickly that it's almost frightening to the person when they get out of session. They're just like my life is completely different and I never knew it was this way before. That's why he has this in the book in the beginning, but it holds true all the way out to present time in Scientology and Dynetics from an independent Scientology.
Speaker 3:Yeah, wow, this is something really really good, and I'm so glad that we had a chance to really dive into it, because the truth of the matter is this no matter where you are on planet Earth, or wherever you are in this universe, or your own universe, or what you're working with, you want to be around those that are of high potential value. Lra says that high worth people. They're worth something. My grandma used to say there ain't a piece of nothing, it's a piece of nothing, not even a whole something. It's a piece of nothing.
Speaker 3:Right, it has no value it has no value, right, and so you want to be around those that are operating with some high worth, high value. And so take a moment, ask the right questions. Yes, ask the right questions. Yeah, absolutely, I cast a reality on L11, definitely, ask the right questions. Figure out what this person is working with. Where is their push through? Where is that dynamic thrust? How are you going to make this work? Are we going to make this work? Are we going to fix this? Are we going to make this car go? Are we going to make this thing happen? If we do, then I could say it was worth it. It was worth the tenacity, it was worth the sweat, it was worth the travail. It was worth it because now we're on the road and we're getting going and we're making stuff happen and we're good.
Speaker 3:Right, and if you can't, I can say you ain't worth it.
Speaker 2:Right, and it's important to note in the last couple of minutes that we have here is intelligence, and postulates are incredibly important.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 2:I used to forget to postulate. I'm not kidding you. I used to forget to postulate. I love it. I realized that and was like, okay, I need to decide, I make decisions and everything like that, and I just go, type of thing, and I get things done and I don't sit there and think about it. But you have to postulate and making and this is my point, making intelligent postulates is the beginning of the dynamic. You have to go. Okay, this is how this should be, this is the way it's going to be done, because with the postulate and the intelligence that plugs into the dynamic, making it exponential to the degree that you've made the right postulate Right. Making the right postulates is important and it's done through having the ability to analyze information. And that's where, like the data evaluators course, comes in the axioms of dynetics and Scientology, the logics, the cues, going over this stuff. Maybe read the book three times in a year and you're going to go over it. Every time you go over it. You're going to go.
Speaker 2:That wasn't in there before and when that happens, you know one thing your intelligence and your awareness has increased significantly, because now you're seeing things in a different way than the last time you read it. And that's something you can do on your own. You don't have to have anybody else with you. Because as your awareness increases and you go up the grade chart, you're going to see things from a totally different vista than you would otherwise, which gives you a higher PV. That's when you know you've gotten change.
Speaker 3:Yes, this is so fantastic. Listen, guys, I hope you guys enjoyed this. If you got to go back and listen to this again, go back and listen to it again, because you'll get it and when you really understand this on a deeper level, you'll understand why it's so important and why we felt the need to spend this time with you and going over it. So I'm super excited. I'm so glad that you're here. I'm so glad that you're interested in going on course, I'm so glad that you're interested in getting auditing so that you can increase your potential value. God, it's a lot just for that right there, just to increase your potential value. That's what this is all about. So I'm super excited to be here. Listen, I love you guys. I really really do. This has been a wonderful conversation. I can't wait to share it out.
Speaker 2:Well, folks, that brings us to the end of our podcast. We hope you enjoyed it and we will see you on Monday for another podcast. Sorry this one was late, but well, life is what happens to you while you're making plans. So we'll see you Monday, namaste, and we love you. Bye, bye.
Speaker 3:Peace.