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Scientology Outside of the Church Podcast
SE10EP16 - Overcoming Obstacles with Independent Scientology
Discover how to transform life's challenges into opportunities for growth and empowerment with our special guest, Quenton Stroud. Explore the fascinating principles of Independent Scientology and learn how to view life as a captivating game played by spiritual beings. Gain insights into how the obstacles we encounter, often self-created, can drive us toward personal development and self-discovery. Quenton and I discuss the art of embracing uncertainty and how this mindset can propel you toward new and ambitious pursuits, backed by references to Scientology and Dianetic axioms.
Unlock the power of language and self-made postulates as we dissect how our beliefs and repetitive thought patterns shape our realities. Through engaging discussions, we delve into the transformative process of auditing and uncover the potential for breaking free from self-imposed limitations. By 'as-is-ing' these ingrained beliefs, you can foster personal growth and create a more empowering mindset. Listen in as we emphasize the importance of mindset and confidence, likening it to a journey rather than a trial-and-error process, and explore how a shift in perspective can lead to profound personal success.
Join us as we highlight the influence of our surroundings and the importance of breaking agreements with limiting beliefs. Discover how aligning with higher tone individuals can help you overcome resistance and achieve personal growth, even when going it alone seems daunting. We discuss the power of maintaining a positive outlook, the necessity of patience and persistence, and the role of auditing in accelerating your progress. Through engaging metaphors and anecdotes, we reassure you that change is within reach, offering encouragement to stay committed to your path with determination and certainty.
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Hi everybody and welcome to another Scientology Outside of the Church podcast brought to you by AO-GPorg and the College of Independent Scientologycom, our online course room. I'm here with Quentin Stroud and we are going to do podcast season 10, episode 16, overcoming Obstacles Using Independent Scientology. This one will go all over the place, I think, quentin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is going to be definitely just really my idea with this is to really approach this from a holistic perspective, to let people know like the things that have been keeping us stuck, feeling stuck, keeping us feeling like we're not advancing or moving forward in our goals or our pursuits what those barriers consist of and how this actually eradicates those. So I think this is going to be really good.
Speaker 1:So, to start out, at the foundation of overcoming obstacles, we'd have to look at the Scientology and Dianetic axioms, the building blocks of auditing, and one of those axioms states that a being or a thetan, you, the spirit, not your body have to have games. You have to play games. And I have this conversation gosh, I bet you, I have this conversation three or four times a week with people that life is a game and you're playing it. Now, have you ever played chess or checkers or some other game, tic-tac-toe even? Have you ever played a game with yourself? How it was easy to win and there was no game, because you knew what you were going to do?
Speaker 1:Well, this is part of the problem of why you have obstacles. These obstacles are something that is created. How are they created? Well, that's in the axioms as well. In order to play a game, you have to become and agree to be aberrated, otherwise there's no game. So you have to go into a not know. You don't know how to do something, and this is the dwindling spiral that we find ourselves on in this universe. We're not part of this universe, we are not matter energy, space and time. We are spiritual beings and we consist of energy production. That's what we do. So if you're not producing energy in the direction of positive, you're producing energy in the negative. So, not know, creating a game for yourself is part of that energy. I can't, I can't do this, I can't do that. You're putting it there because if you knew everything, you wouldn't have a game. So that's the problem, right there. So wait a minute. You conceive you create.
Speaker 2:So we literally make ourselves a little stupid. That's the right word.
Speaker 1:We make ourselves not know something Right.
Speaker 2:We make ourselves not know something in order to play the game with ourselves to find out how to know it or how to overcome it.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's right, that's right. Interesting. So if you look at let's, let's look at an analogy, would you watch a movie if you knew the plot?
Speaker 2:um, I mean, I like movies but I will, I would watch it, but I would be like I'll be watching it with a level of knowing. It's like okay, I know what's going to happen, so it'll be less fun, I guess, if you will.
Speaker 1:Right, because a mystery is one of the most interesting things to a being is how do I, or what happens if? Now, an interesting phenomena that occurs when you get auditing in Scientology and you go into the upper levels, the OT levels, and you solo audit and all of that? Ellerate says and this is a curious point because this gives you an idea of the next echelon above, when you're on OT5, which is a neurodynamics for OTs, to new OT7. He says that what you'll find is the physical universe tends to get a bit flimsy and thin. It's sort of like being on a movie stage. You know you're walking through this old Western town and you look around the corner and it's just a facade. And the other thing is is that he says it ruins movies for you, because you've already got it figured out. You know like you watch these TV series and what's going to happen to Superman? Is Superman going to die? Is Lex Luthor going to kill him off? And when you're on on ned for ot's, you immediately think, without any communication lag at all. Well, of course he's not, because he's the main character of the series, right, see?
Speaker 1:So when you look at this from the viewpoint of games, now you're creating. You're going to have to create much bigger games, and that's what OT is all about, is you're playing bigger games. You have bigger, bigger mysteries, not just we're not talking mass but you go from I want to go to school to be a whatever, and you pull that off, but the next thing is is you go. Okay, I've mastered that. We have a client who's a Harvard graduate and I know he's listening and he's done, been there, done that and all of that and the the allure of that is is gone. He's seen, been there, done that, and now he's playing even bigger games that are totally different, spent all this time been a a master student, been a master producer. Nothing got in his way, despite all obstacles, and then he decided I'm going to play a new game. So in playing a new game, it consists of freedoms, boundaries and purposes, so go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, I was going to say. That's exactly what I wanted to kind of touch on, because so, if we're playing these, or that, we're playing these games with ourselves, really, and these obstacles are showing up as a part of those barriers, as a part of those things that we have to quote, unquote, overcome, which we're talking about overcoming obstacles. So the obstacles, the problems, aren't a bad thing, right? They're actually there to give you some randomity, to give you some interest, to give you some things to conquer. The problems are actually there to experience yourself as a bigger being. Is that what I'm hearing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And the interesting thing is is early on, I mean, you know, everybody gets into a religion or independent Scientology because they want a solution to their problems. But the thing is is that once you go clear, you start getting on the path of, instead of the games playing you that you don't have any control of, you really do. You just don't know it and you're not aware of it. Now you start to play games you want to play and you stop playing games that are playing you that you didn't know were of your own creation.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, so, so, okay. So, just in my own experience as a Scientologist, just my own journey, like I've seen that to be true, because the truth of the matter is is that prior to, I was playing these games with myself and in my own life, I was playing these games with myself and in my own life I was playing these games with myself where, particularly around relationships and around money and credit, and you know, it was just like I could. It was palpable, the problems that I was dealing with, like I could feel the heaviness of them, the solidity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And so as I continue to, you know journey and advance, and you know you help me with the grades, you help me go clear all these things like anxiety, or you know they neurotic about something, or worried about something or whatever, like I know that there's a way to you, for you to get to a place where that does not happen and it absolutely does not have to happen. You don't have to feel that level of anxiety where I was talking to my sister after the whole election and everything or whatever, and she was really, really feeling some kind of way about the election results, whatever it is. She was feeling some kind of way about it, and so much so that she ended up going to her psychiatrist and just because of the election, they had to adjust her meds, put her on meds, and just because of the election results. And so when I called her back, I said you know, hey, how you doing. And she was like, oh, I'm so much better now, so much better now.
Speaker 2:I said, oh, good, she said, yeah, I went to my therapist and they actually ended up just in my meds and no, I'm so much better now. Okay, got it. You know, like, it's like, wow, like because that felt so heavy to her, so bleak to her. It was almost as if, like she could not function, you know. And so I say, all that to say is that I know that there's another side of this thing where, if you can just get to the other side, if you can get into auditing the grades, let me tell you something the grades changed my life. The grades changed my life because if you can get through these communication barriers and the problems that you face in life and all these, if you can just get through these things, you don't feel the same way. Yeah, and that's the truth.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, like the axioms say as well, considerations are senior to the physical universe. We talked about this several times on the podcast. Is that what you consider? You know, if you sit there and you, you look at yourself in the mirror and you go I'm such a dumbass. That's your consideration and it's going to reflect back into what you can do and what you can't do, and it all has to do with agreement. You're agreeing with this game of your own creation and auditing reverses. That gets you exterior to it and gives you a different viewpoint. You look at, why am I thinking this way? I don't have to think this way and it typically comes from you've gone into earlier agreement with other people's evaluation, the physical universe, rubbing your nose in the dirt, and you go. Well, obviously I can't do this, but the thing is is the only reason you can't is because you've decided that you can't, and I'm not trying to get all woo-woo, but it is the case. That which you decide is your reality. Reality is a relative. So what are?
Speaker 2:you agreeing?
Speaker 1:with.
Speaker 2:Exactly Even scripture, the Bible, actually says that a man would decree a thing and it shall be established unto him. So you will decree a thing, you'll say something, and it shall be established unto you. So when you call somebody else stupid, or when you call somebody else ugly, you decreeing the thing establishes it for you. And so you want to be very, very mindful of what you're postulating, what you're putting out there, what you're making your own truth. You become what do you say? You become the effect of your own cause. Right? And yet another way to play a game, right? Yet another way to play a game with yourself, where you actually become the effect of your own causes.
Speaker 1:It's crazy man the effect of your own causes. It's crazy, man. Yeah. Well, it becomes a labyrinth or a miasma of all of these. Okay, I took a left turn and I took another left turn, and I took another left turn and I ended back up right where I started. How many people listening to this podcast go? Yep, been there.
Speaker 1:And you get caught in this loop because of your own considerations, of the game that you are playing, and that game is influenced. Ultimately, at the end of the day and this is hard to accept if you haven't gotten on, it is because of your own postulates, your own decisions that were made. And we're going to look at this just for the moment from a dianetic standpoint. The bottom of every dianetic chain of engrams, secondaries or locks or a combination of all of those things, which ultimately the engram is at the bottom of locks and secondaries, is a postulate. Did you make a postulate at the time of that incident? And that is the case every time. I can't do this. Men are like that. I shouldn't drive, I'm afraid of this, that type of thing, these decisions you put there, planted a flag, and now you have to make a right or left or up or down turn because of those decisions and you're not even aware of it. It's just, you've been put into a situation of your own making and you've decided okay, I'm going to make this decision because of this situation, and that's a motivator.
Speaker 1:An engram is something that you have perceptibly received. You think you've received this, but honestly, what's happening is you cause this to happen. We've talked about this in other podcasts, but you cause this thing to happen to you, and that's what the reactive mind does. So if you can get that under control and say, okay, I'm not going to have these things happen to me, that I did to myself, your life would be drastically different to where you could say, okay, I'm going to learn how to play bridge or canasta as a game, so to speak. Well, what do you have to do? How do you play bridge or canasta? Well, there's rules. But see, these are agreements. Rules are agreements. The physical universe perceptively punishes you to teach you the rules. That's the way that it seems. That's the way that it seems, but it's really you going into agreement with these assumed assumptions that these are the rules. You were going to say something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so this is good because when we go into auditing and we're going over our case and we're looking at these incidents, these engrams, these things that happen to us, we go in over our case and we're looking at these incidents, these engrams, these things that happen to us, we go in over our case and let's say, like you said, we have this cognition and we come across this postulate that we made on whatever the thing is, you can't be broken, rich or whatever, or you can't be spiritual and rich or happy and rich. You know how people don't think, can't be spiritual and rich or happy and rich. You know how people don't think. And so this posture comes up here and it's.
Speaker 2:It's interesting because the the to me, one of the benefits of auditing is that by going in, looking at the situation, looking at the ingram um, look at the ingram, looking at the postulate that you made it as is, it's like you, you can like when you fully see it and how ridiculous this is and how it has nothing to do with any objective truth. It's just this whole, this consideration that you made in your, in your own mind or whatever, like, you can go in and you can, as is, or vanish or vanquish or disappear that thought and replace it with a more constructive, a more healthy way of thinking. Right and so by, but. But what ends up happening is you know we can cause, you know it's the beginning of the year, you know you write down your affirmations and you write down your resolutions, and you can write down these affirmations and resolutions all day long. You can have your vision board up on the wall and those things might have some kind of benefits.
Speaker 2:But the truth of the matter is, until you, as is that postulate that is keeping you in that condition, whatever it is, until you, as is that postulate, and you really see it for what it is and where it came from and how I came to this conclusion, and what is what you really? If you don't get to that, it's just like throwing a. Somebody showed me it's like throwing a multivitamin on a lump of crap. It's like it's crap and you just throw a multivitamin.
Speaker 1:Why didn't it fix it?
Speaker 2:That ain't gonna make it better, right? I got all this crap in here, and so, by going in and as-is-ing those postulates that are actually keeping you in this condition, that's where the, in my opinion, that's where the start of the betterment begins. I got to get rid of this old way of thinking in order to create and decide, conclude for myself a new way, a new consideration.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a good analogy would be if you've ever used a spreadsheet and you have a formula that you put in the spreadsheet to figure something out. If that formula is incorrect, you're going to get the wrong answer and that wrong answer is going to cause a domino effect to where you come up with a negative bank account. Or, let's say, these algorithms that social media platforms use and everything like that. These algorithms that social media platforms use and everything like that. These formulas are used to get you to do certain things, see certain things, think certain things, decide certain things. And you've got planet Earth. So you're being manipulated by incorrect formulas as to what is important and what is not important. Oh, so-and-so, got a new bag and these influencers, and they're influencing people, and all this and this stuff comes up on your feed and now you're off on this train of thought. So it's an incorrect formula that has been created in the reactive mind because you've been knocked down and said well, I won't do that again.
Speaker 2:Bing.
Speaker 1:There you are. Why can't I do this anymore? But it's also important to note that there is some validity into being positive, picturing what it is that you want LRH talks about this on the Route to Infinity back in 1952, that you have to get at a lower level, you have to get a mental image picture and you have to put it there. And we've talked about this in other podcasts as well. Talked about this in other podcasts as well that if you want to buy a house, well, you have to be a house owner in order to do the things you need to do in order to have the house, and you have to start putting that into motion and put it into the physical universe. So, journaling, auditing not that different, but it does help just to write things down and get it out Start taking the actions that a house owner would do, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No finish. I was agreeing.
Speaker 1:It's that real, because if you believe it, you can have it, you can do it, you can be it, but you have to decide. But if you have these things that are holding you down with these wrong equations, guess what? It isn't going to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I teach with my clients and stuff. I say listen anything you believe you become and live. Believe Anything you believe you become and live. Be live Anything you believe you become and live. And so you become that and then you start to exemplify that or live that out in your lived experience and some of those beliefs are deeply inculcated. Some of those beliefs are deeply entrenched in your consciousness and the way you are, the way you're thinking, and those beliefs have to be in your consciousness, in the way you are, the way you're thinking and those beliefs have to be.
Speaker 2:And this is why I love Scientology as a spiritual practice, because you and I have often compared this. When we did back in the day when we were talking about parascientology, we talked about shadow work and how you go in and you got to go into the deep, dark, shadow side of self. You got to go into that stuff that you don't want to look at about yourself, the things that you did. That really was lumped up you know what I mean and you take a look at it and you really expose all of you so that you can really see where you've come from, what you've come through, who you were in past lives or whatever. You see all of this stuff, and then you come to a fullness of realizing wait a minute, that's not really me, who I really am is, and you get to fill in the blank I am that I am.
Speaker 2:I think this is really, really poignant, because these deeply entrenched beliefs we call them postulates in Scientology that these things that you have come to believe you will become and you will live them. And that's not just what you, that's what you think about the world around you. This is why Scientology says that the attainment of brotherhood with the universe, like this, is not. It's not a separate, you're not an island until yourself. You are part of this ongoing cosmos, this cosmic unfoldment of things. You are part of all of this and what you're feeling about yourself and about the world around you that is going to play out in your life over and over and over again, until you take a serious, hard look at it, deal with it and reframe it and repostulate what it is that you want for yourself. And so this is why I think that, why it's worked for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what you you're you know what you're doing with with the lower levels of auditing is you're getting the preclear, the person receiving the auditing, to change their mind about things, and all of these things are one big spider web. One thing's connected to another. You've got valence as well. It's a solution to a problem. I need to act like mama. I need to act like papa, I need to act like my big brother, because my big brother survived better than anybody else, whatever, whoever. But you've bought into this and said, okay, I have to do these things in order to survive. So you're using.
Speaker 1:It's sort of like you taking on these different plates of armor and putting them on and everything, when you don't really need to have those plates of armor, because if you really are a big being, you don't have to worry about it, because you're not putting anything there to stand in your way at all. It's that simple. But, like you say, you have to take a good hard look, and it's very difficult for anybody in the lower levels to take a good hard look without somebody standing next to them and saying okay, you got this, take a look. I don't see anything. Take a look, take a look. Yeah, that's really I understand. Take a look, look at that, and that's basically what you're doing with auditing is you're being a guide to your own case. We're not telling you what to think, we're just doing the process that gets you to look at it on your own, because the most important factor is self-determinism. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:You know the way you just flowed that out and thank you for doing that. The way you just flowed that out, it actually, in my opinion, it shows you how loving this work really is.
Speaker 1:It's incredible how that makes a person feel, how that makes a person feel there's all this talk about safe space and all this stuff. A safe space is someplace where you don't need to worry about evaluation, you don't need to worry about invalidation.
Speaker 2:Judgment.
Speaker 1:Judgment, because it's all around us. Turn the TV on, listen to the radio, read something on your phone, because all of this source material that you're reading consists of this and it's pushing you in certain directions, and everything In auditing you've got none of that. It's basically a zero attitude, and so you can look at things and you can go okay, this is what's true. For me, it's very aberrated. Gosh, I can't believe I ever took that on and swallowed it and metabolized it and acted on it. But you've got thousands of these things going on, and then, on top of that, you've got other influences that are influencing you to do that in the first place, that you don't even know are there yet. Think about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like Schrodinger's cat. It's like, you know, in a dark closet. What is it? You locked in a dark closet with a black cat, trying to find a black cat and realizing there was no cat there in the first place, or something like that. It's a whole physics terminology. But my point is is that it's like it's like you're in this dark closet of your own consciousness, your own mind, and you're trying to figure out. Is there something? What's wrong with me? Why do I think like this? Why do I feel this way? You're searching for this black cat in the dark closet and it's like wait, I'm the one in the closet, I'm the one in there.
Speaker 1:It's just me and.
Speaker 2:I'm really looking for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the thing. And you can get into this thing where the way you feel about something, you say well, that place makes me feel a certain way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That place makes you feel a certain way. Do you get what I'm saying? You're feeling a certain way because you're making yourself feel that way. There isn't anything making you feel that way. You're making yourself feel that way. Love is how you make yourself feel that way. Love is how you make yourself feel that way. You better stop on this phone.
Speaker 2:You better stop right now, Because let me tell you something. This is what I have been teaching for years. It's how you make yourself feel. The person, don't make you feel nothing.
Speaker 2:That person is just being whatever lump. They be in right, they be in over there doing what they do, and that's wonderful, don't get me wrong. I'm not invalidating their contribution, right, but you get to choose how you feel in these moments. You get to go through this experience and say this is how I want to experience this thing, and no ifs ands buts about it. And once you know who you are in this, your whole experience changes in what you're experiencing concerning it. That's right.
Speaker 2:When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change, and so all I'm saying is is that you know, whether you decide to start with just doing some general book one auditing and getting on with some of our book one auditors, whether you decide to go even higher and do a life repair, you want to start your bridge and Ernst, whatever it is that you're doing, this is a process that is already laid out for you. Okay, it's not hit or miss, it's not trial and error. It is something that is laid out for you and it's a way to do it that you see the gains every single session. You see you don't have to go to therapy for 16 months and two years and, oh, I think I'm feeling better now. I think I'm still getting over my X. No, you can remedy this stuff quick boy. That's been my experience with it.
Speaker 1:It's sort of like when how do I describe this? So it's sort of like when how do I describe this? It's sort of like if you've never done something before this lifetime and you managed to pull it off. How did you feel before? Like, and then you do it. And then you go I got this, I've done this before, I know how I felt, I can see that I can do this again. And you get more certainty on it because you've been able to pull it off and present to yourself that you could pull it off. But you get to a point to where you think, yeah, I can do anything, anything I want to. Because now you've gotten yourself to a point to where you've presented to yourself I can win this game of chess, I can win any game of chess.
Speaker 1:Does that make sense? You have to convince yourself. By convincing yourself. You don't even have to do that, you don't even have to do that. It's sort of like saying I can have a gallon of milk because I've gotten milk before. Well, at one point you'd never bought a gallon of milk. Well, who got you to buy a gallon of milk? You did, so. You were able to do it in the first place anyway, Whether it's a gallon of milk or buying your first, whatever that sizable house car, you name it, the thing is is you were always, always, capable of doing that. The only thing that was holding you back was your consideration that you couldn't do it. Wow, I know that seems almost reductio ad absurdum, but it's true. And you don't have to. You don't have to convince yourself. It's just a matter of saying I got this and staying on that. That's what LRH calls tone 40. You're just putting it there and you don't sit there and teach it without animation.
Speaker 1:The force is one. I am with the force. The force is one, I am with the force. The force is one, I am with the force. You know. I mean it's literally in a star Wars movie that these guys were doing this, these jedi that have these these powers and everything, and it was. It was a little silly that they, they took it that far. But I mean that's down scale, because you don't have to do that. That's high tone to top of the tone scale is serenity of beingness. That's total. No, that's yoda. That's why it's called tone 40, 40.0. It's yoda. You know, luke skywalker says you know, I'm trying. There is no try, only do right. And he pulls the x-wing out of the swamp and problem solved. It was a mcguffin for the whole story.
Speaker 2:So and luke said and luke says oh my god, I don't believe it. He says that's just why you fail. That's right, that is why you fail and that's great you know, you know this is.
Speaker 2:This is some really, really good stuff, and I think that, more than anything, for and I go back to what I said earlier about the loving aspect of this, and I don't know why this is on me to talk about it, but it is is such a loving act on behalf of the auditor and it's such a loving act on behalf of yourself, right, like you can love yourself into greatness, you can love yourself into rightness, you can love yourself into survival and better survival. You can love yourself into this thing. And the way you start doing it, I think, is to having a conversation with yourself. One thing about an auditor, an auditor's job is to listen and compute. That's what an auditor does just listens and computes, helps you compute these things. And so you're really having this conversation with yourself, but you're doing it with the facilitation and the and the guidance of an auditor to help you to, like you say it and do it again when you said it Okay, take a look at it. Okay, do it again.
Speaker 1:Take a look. Will you take a look? Yeah, take a look, take a look. And so you start looking at it from the different sides of a clock 12, three o'clock, six o'clock, 12, 3 o'clock, 6 o'clock, 9 o'clock, 12 o'clock and then you go oh, that was a weird consideration that I had, right? Yeah, so that's. The deal is, you've got yourself wrapped up in a bunch of little filaments of linen that you can pull yourself out of, but you've got yourself snookered into a point to where you think that you can't do these things because you've made all these decisions that are holding you back, and that's all there is to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I never looked at it that way, because you're really looking at this thing from a truly multidimensional viewpoint, right, like this is what the axioms come in is about viewpoints, but you're looking at viewpoints and dimension points. You're looking at this thing from a multidimensional viewpoint, like I can see this thing from many different dimensional shifts. Okay, I can look at it this way there's a movie, um, there's a movie. There's a movie called vantage.
Speaker 1:It's called vantage and in the movie.
Speaker 2:It's a great movie, yeah, from all the different perspectives yeah, at first I didn't like it because I'm like I'm just seeing the same thing over and over again. It's okay, I know that, but when, um, but when I went back and watched it a second time, I was like this is a really interesting movie because you're seeing the same situation, the same incident, from multiple different vantage points or vantages, and this multidimensional viewpoint on what is happening or what happened in your lived experience, and you get to be like, oh my God, and it's like, and like you said about watching a movie, when you're watching this movie the viewer watches it and be like I wouldn't go in that room if I were. You Like, oh my God, girl, step, step, back, run. The viewer is saying this, but from the vantage point of the person in the movie, she don't see the killer behind the couch. You know what I mean, or whatever.
Speaker 2:And so it's just so interesting that how this technology works and how this really really helps a person to really especially with grade one see problems we talk about overcoming obstacles see these problems from these different viewpoints where you actually can solve them. This is not something about coping, this is not just to cope you through it and we're gonna help you breathe in exercises and we're gonna help you. Listen, I don't want no breathing exercise, I want this thing gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and one of the auditing processes that really works is the problems of comparable magnitude. It's very, very therapeutic. So, you know, I can't seem to get into the college that I want to get into. Okay, think of a problem that's bigger than this. Okay, think of another problem that's bigger than this. Okay, think of another problem that's bigger than this. Think of another problem that's bigger than this. And so you get to the point to where you're like, well, this is, this is nothing you know, it's, it's, it's that sort of that, that viewpoint of what do I have to be thankful for I can overcome this, because it could be a lot worse. You could be dying, yeah, I could, whatever. But when you start to look, at that.
Speaker 1:But the other thing is that, to the degree that you agree with those around you and their tone level and the way that they see things, that's as much of an obstacle to you achieving what it is that you want to achieve. What are you buying into, based off of the people that are around you, the company you keep? In other words, because in order to be an ARC with someone, you have to drop in tone level. In order to be an ARC, the higher tone selectively gives. So if you're around a bunch of people who are underachievers, you're going to be an underachiever because you've bought into that narrative. You need to be around higher tone individuals. That's why he says OTs work better in numbers and sometimes it's impossible to find people that are higher tone and you have to just go it alone. And when you get away from that and you do these things yourself, you find that all of a sudden, a lot of the resistance that you were running into the headwinds are no longer there, because their influence is not your influence. And that is something you have to look at as well, because your parents are saying, ah, you'll never make it as a musician, you don't have what it takes, you got no talent, kid, give it up. Okay, now you're done for, because these are the people that you're looking at as opinion leaders.
Speaker 1:The only opinion that matters is yours. That's a postulate itself, or reverse it, everybody else's opinion. They say that I can't do this. They say that I can't do that. Everybody, everybody, runs into this. Don't believe it. Don't believe it. You're only seeing the world through their failures because they believe it themselves. That's it. That's all there is to it. But these are parts of engrams, and these engrams have postulates and you're like, yeah, they know what they're talking about. Dad's always been right.
Speaker 2:um, no good, can't do anything yeah, and you and you start, and you start to actually uh, um, covertly, like kind of prove them right. You'll sabotage yourself if you're not careful. You'll sabotage yourself to prove them right, like, oh, my mom always told me that he was going to break my heart Right, he was going to cheat on me, he was going to break my heart, this was going to happen.
Speaker 2:They always say you can't trust, you start to go into agreement with them to prove them right. And it's such a weird phenomenon because it's like you don't want that to be your, your lived experience, and yet you, you find the way, or find a way, to prove them right about who you are, about what you're experiencing in the universe.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of messed up actually, yeah, it's all about agreement and that agreement, agreement, is a powerful thing. You have to learn to disagree. You have to disagree, have to disagree with what it is that you're getting that is preventing you from doing things A lot of times. You know, I mean, you have lots of arbitraries and it's important to mention arbitraries, lots of arbitraries, and it's important to mention arbitraries, lots of arbitraries in the way, well, I have to do this and I have to do that, and there's this license that needs to be done, and I have to get this tax number and I have to. And then you just look at it and you get overwhelmed and you give up.
Speaker 1:But you're agreeing with these things and elliott says you have to get a bright idea, okay, and that. That that's a little. Now we're starting to get into the territory of fake it till you make it. But see, fake it till you make it is you disagreeing with all of these things and you're just saying, okay, I can do this because I mean, you know you're not going to go in and be a brain surgeon. Faking it till you make it, okay, let's just be honest, honest. But the thing is you've got to start somewhere and you have to disagree and once you get one leg over the fence, you can get another leg over the fence as a being and go.
Speaker 2:Okay, I did that, I can do this so so is it easier this is just a question, I don't know if there's any data on it, but is it easier to disagree or to agree first, like should we like find those things that we don't want in our experience, and like I disagree with that. Like my spiritual teacher used to say, I would never be broken another day in my life, and he would say he would kind of make that be you know, I would never be broken another day in my life. I would never be broken another day in my life, and he would say he would kind of make that be you know, I would never be broken another day in my life. I would never be broken another day in my life, and that would be his way of kind of like disagreeing with poverty or whatever, or mediocrity or something like that and that goes along with.
Speaker 1:I mean, a really simple place to get started is the code of honor in independent Scientology. I get that is the code of honor, because that that is the bare bones thing that you can use and go. Okay, I don't need anybody's approval for shit.
Speaker 1:My, my considerations are senior to everybody else's and once, once you get a win for me, right, there is just yeah once you get a win, okay, fine, but right, there is yeah, once you get a win, okay fine, but the thing is you've got to start somewhere.
Speaker 1:It's innately with you and then the best thing that you can do is get yourself educated on the laws of the universe. Grab a copy of Scientology 0 to 8 and read the Scientology axioms, read the Dianetic axioms, understand the cues and the logics and really demo those out. And now you're looking at it from a clean slate and go okay, I don't have to agree with any of this stuff. I don't have to agree that it's going to take forever to get up the ridge. I don't have to agree that I'm going to have to better, have a better job in order to to live a happy life. No, because again we go back to. You know, the love you feel is the love you create, for example, and if you can do that, which pretty much everybody, everybody does you can make yourself say that again, the love you feel is the love you create.
Speaker 1:I love that how you feel about somebody or something. That's how you feel when you go back and you look at a particular point in your life where you were feeling really great, really great about something and you go yeah, man, I haven't felt that in a long time. Well, what's stopping you, kid? What's stopping you? Mm-hmm, there's nothing stopping you?
Speaker 2:What's stopping you from feeling that again, right, right.
Speaker 1:Mock that shit up, yeah, you know. Because what are you doing if you're not feeling that way? You're mocking that shit up. You're mocking up the not feeling of it, right, right, right. So just flip it, flip the script and go okay, you know, I can pull all this stuff off. Like LRA says, you know, smile and you'll soon start feeling like you have something to smile about. It's that simple. It's that simple. It's just all of these other influences that you have in your life. Put that goddamn phone down, stay away from the TV, stay away from the newspapers, go out and take a walk in nature, do a location and start making yourself feel that way and all of a sudden, guess what?
Speaker 1:The phone starts ringing. You start outflowing, Phone starts ringing more. And what I mean by the phone starts ringing, you know you're getting info, Opportunities yeah.
Speaker 1:That which you outflow, that emotion that you outflow, that certainty of emotion that you outflow, is what you're going to receive If you're a victim. You're going to pull inflows that create you to be a victim to validate that which you're mocking up. That's it, and it sounds so simple, because it is. It's just that you've got yourself convinced that you'd much rather mock up one thing than another. So you know a feeling and emotion. What is emotion? Lra says emotion is used to get a desired result. Think about that for a moment. What is the desired result you're getting when you feel like you're not capable of doing anything? You're validating your own decision that you're not capable of doing anything. That's a consideration, that's a postulate. Change it, change it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's that simple. It doesn't matter what's in the reactive mind. You can overcome that by deciding. I have and am overcoming that. What do I need to do? Take a step. Take another step. Now do something else. Take a step. Take another step. Start putting these things in. Get in good shape, exercise, go for a walk, run, go to the gym, go bike riding. Be creative. You start creating. You're going to start creating positive things. It's that simple. You just have to get some momentum. The physical universe has a calm lag of about six weeks at the bottom of the bridge. The physical universe has no calm lag at the top of the bridge.
Speaker 2:Interesting Wait that. Oh, my God, you're dropping these pearls. So so the physical universe has a calm lag of about six weeks at the bottom of the bridge. So when a person is feeling low tone and they try to change this, it like it might take a minute to for the, for the lived experience to catch up. So don't, so don't, start doing these. I'm gonna decide right now I'm a millionaire or whatever. You're doing all this stuff, and then two weeks later you'll be like I can't even get a job, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, you can't do it that way yeah, don't, don't, don't take a loss, don't take a loss.
Speaker 1:You need to understand yeah you know the the the best way to to describe it is you got to wait for the letter to get there, because the letter isn't going to do any good unless it gets to the terminal, and the terminal is you've got this quicksand and you're trying to walk out of the quicksand and you blow out and then you start getting into the swamp and you find there's less resistance and then it's just water and then you're on land. Don't give yourself a loss. Don't give yourself a loss. It isn't going to happen overnight. If anybody, anybody, doesn't have patience with themselves, knock it off. It's.
Speaker 1:And I'm going to make this indication. It's not you. You are a Satan in the physical universe. This universe is very solid. It's going to take some time. Don't let it get you down.
Speaker 1:My superpower is persistence on a given course, and I know I will get there. And I mean no, you can do this too, and you just have to acknowledge it and admire it and go ah, this is taking a long time, but I'm going to get there. Keep going, keep going. Put your pants one leg at a time, get out of bed. Three days, four days. You keep doing this. You're gonna start seeing results and the flows are gonna start coming in, but you just have to be patient with it. Get some auditing. You'll find things speed up and they speed up and it's not taking as long you see. So that's the whole thing is.
Speaker 1:The only thing stopping you is your own impatience with your own ability to postulate and get it to manifest, and we've had a podcast about this and this is important. Okay, you have this confirmation bias. That's your headwind. That's your headwind. Well, I don't see any change yet. Fuck this. Right, that is your own confirmation bias. Knock that shit off. Okay, that's going to change. When you get up the bridge, you'll make postulates so fast you scare yourself. They're just bam, right there, right there, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Speaker 1:But you've got to get all this other crap out of the way, and the only way to do that is be patient with yourself. Admire the system the way that it is, and I know that's hard, but you just go. What a beautiful contraption this physical universe is in this reactive mind. Get in session, get in session and we have a release that's coming out real soon, real soon. That's going to allow you to get in session cheaper than you ever imagined and get book one Dianetics Cheaper, more reliable, anytime you want, as long as you're sessionable, well-fed, well-rested, no drugs, no alcohol.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you everything is going to change very, very soon. There will be nothing stopping you, okay, and we got your back. There will be nothing stopping you. Okay, and we got your back. We want you to succeed and we know you will succeed. It's not. Can you will Decide it, disagree with it? Admire all of this crazy slowness and this physical universe. Calm, like time doesn't mean anything. Distance doesn't mean anything. You got this, we've got this. Yeah, we've got you. So we hope this has been inspiring and we're a little over an hour here. So we're going to let you go for today and, if you have any questions, comment below on YouTube. We'd love to see your comments and get a dialogue going. Otherwise, we'll see you Wednesday. Arthur will be back with us and we will be here for another podcast. So for Quentin Stroud and myself, namaste, and we love you, bye-bye.
Speaker 2:Peace, thank you, thank you, thanks for watching.