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SE10EP21 - Bypassed Charge
What if the hidden forces driving your behavior could be uncovered and neutralized? This episode promises to illuminate the enigmatic concept of "bypassed charge" in Scientology, guiding you to a deeper understanding of how unaddressed emotional charges shape our daily lives. Join us, alongside Arthur Moudakis, as we unravel the intricate layers of the reactive mind and explore the transformative potential of Independent Scientology auditing like New Era Dianetics. Discover how auditing techniques address these mental blockages, akin to lightening a boat loaded with excess water, to facilitate genuine personal change.
Arthur and I navigate through the complexities of life's re-stimulations, discussing how societal pressures, marketing, and even the iconic volcano imagery on the Dianetics book cover contribute to these charges. By examining the mind's "ridges," we highlight the significance of overcoming these blockages using a selective gradient approach in auditing. Our conversation also touches on actionable solutions, such as the innovative idea of a real-time app designed to help individuals recognize and manage bypassed charge, ultimately leading to enhanced mental clarity and resilience.
With an emphasis on the importance of correct information and organization, we explore the pathway from confusion to stability through Scientology principles. Arthur shares insights on how awareness and gentle techniques like self-analysis can address the everyday stressors that contribute to bypassed charge without invasive methods. As we conclude this enlightening journey, we aim to empower both independent Scientologists and curious listeners with the knowledge to navigate life’s challenges more effectively.
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Hi and welcome to another Scientology Outside of the Church podcast brought to you by the Advanced Org of the Great Plains, ao-gporg and the College of Independent Scientologycom. I'm here with Arthur Murdochus and we are going to do a Season 10, episode 21 podcast on bypassed charge and it's probably the most prevalent thing that a person runs into in life on a moment by moment, daily basis basis, and LRH says that the sum of the case is its bypassed charge. It's that simple. There it is Okay. It was nice talking to you guys. Have a great day.
Speaker 2:Love you Bye-bye. So, john, we love these podcasts, right? So please explain to us all what bypass charge is.
Speaker 1:Well, bypass charge is something that is restimulated but not yet handled, because there is an earlier thing that is restimulated but not handled, and an earlier thing and an earlier thing so let's say, in an everyday sense, would you know, people call that a trigger.
Speaker 2:For example, someone's being triggered and then all of a sudden a reaction occurs yeah, that would be.
Speaker 1:It could be a dianetic thing, it could be a lock yep, so what's bypass charge?
Speaker 2:mainly related to a risk stimulator.
Speaker 1:That's how something gets bypassed. You, you see a baseball bat in the window and it reminds you of a time when you were a kid and you tossed your baseball bat uh, trying to run to first base when you made the hit, and the baseball bat hits you in the head not that that ever happened to me because I didn't play baseball, but you know could be anything and so you get a re-stimulator that gets you to buy or do something. And so you're living in a society that does nothing but restimulate, which is bypass charge, which is bypass charge because you're restimulating an earlier, earlier, earlier, earlier, earlier and so on thing. Now you're not going to be able to access something you know right off the bat, some quintillion years ago or squillion years ago or whatever in most cases, unless you're in good shape and you've already gotten auditing. If you've gotten auditing, then then you know you're going to be able to access something earlier. But that's the thing. When you're dealing with Scientology auditing, you're dealing with a key out. In most cases, you're not dealing with an erasure. So when you get a floating needle very good indicators, cognition. You know. Floating needle, very good indicators, cognition. You know that's sorry, I'm thinking faster than I can talk per L or H. When you're doing that, you're keying something out. Okay, that's all you're trying to do is you're trying to key out the person, key out the person, key out the person. But you're keying this stuff out in a well laid out, logical manner and it's very methodical, and it's one little victory after another. But you're just keying these things out so that you can get to the reactive mind to handle it in Dianetics New Era Dianetics and that's the important thing that you need to pay attention to is that there's a lot that needs to be keyed out. But while you're keyed out, you're still dealing with bypass charge in your day-to-day life. You know making money, relationships with family, friends a second dynamic type things, all of this stuff, and so you have this bypass charge that's developed. But what you're trying to do is you're just trying to get enough bypass charge keyed out so that you can get in there and you can get to the end of the cave and get the prize, which is the reactive mind, and you can access it. You've got enough stuff out of the way that you can look at it and you can go for broke and handle this thing called the reactive mind. And what does that do? Well, it erases a significant amount of bypass charge.
Speaker 1:Dianetics is deceptively, deceptively simple. But LRH found that the society was going down the tubes so quickly because New Era Dianetics back in 78 was at the bottom of the bridge, because it was so deceptively simple. And then what he found out was things were going to hell in a handbasket. So bad with the drug culture. I mean, you look at the way things are now versus the way they were then and it's exponentially worse. Exponentially worse both in foods and street drugs, medical drugs, psychiatric drugs. So he moved it up to above the grades.
Speaker 1:After all of the drug handling, you have to key out these drugs and the way the grade chart is set up. You handle drugs three times, three times. So you've got this. You've got this bypass charge on drugs. You handle whatever the body's re-stimulating you on which is bypass charged in the purif. You, you do your Scientology drug rundown and you're keying out whatever drugs are reading on the person. And you, you, you feel a lot cleaner, a lot more in present time. You do objectives. You're now. You're more in present time. You do objectives. Now you're really in present time. You've got all your ducks in a row and you're really here and then you start working on your recall and you're handling the bypass. And this is an interesting thing that most people don't know what you're doing with the self-analysis list in ARC Straightwire. Guess what you're doing? You're dispelling, yeah, you're removing bypass charge of locks, incidents that have lots of dianetic locks, things that are bypass charge on earlier engrams, which allows you to have a better recall.
Speaker 2:So it's this incremental handling a bypass charge that we're doing and it's interesting what you were saying around, um, the marketing side of it because, um, after you saying it and then explaining, explaining why kind of feeds itself and it's become. It's become this monster because, like, the more that we're being re-stimulated, the more they're creating on top of that. So it's almost like you know, it started with one re-stimulation, as an example, and then all of a sudden it becomes two, and then it becomes three, and then it becomes 20, and then it becomes 40, and then it becomes, you know, a hundred, a thousand and like, just looking at it from the marketing perspective, the way things are revolving, say with with just medication, um, you know, adhd, um all these, all these things that are recurring, um are re-stimulating things because there's things out there where simple life skills could handle versus a diagnosis, which is really interesting from what you just said earlier. It just compounds itself and at the moment it's compounding at such an incredible rate in just normal society, whatever that's that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we just did the podcast the other day. You know, you watching, watching, uh, you know, uh, national media or international media and things like that. And the reason why I said, you know, don't listen to it, don't believe it, part of that is because a lot of this stuff is designed to be re-stimulated on a large scale, on an exponential scale, the larger arc and you know, like incidents like 9-11, for example. I mean, that's what 23 years ago? Was it 2001? Yeah, 2001. I can't remember, but yeah, yeah, 23 years ago. And there are certain incidents on the track and things like that that re-stimulate people on things, and explosion incidents re-stimulate people on things and explosion incidents restimulate people.
Speaker 1:You look at the cover of the Dianetics book and the volcano. He put that on there for a reason, because it restimulated the person to go. This is different. Why is there a volcano on the cover? Something about this? So you know, from that standpoint, it gets the person to want to look into it. I mean, the original Dianetics book didn't have a volcano on it, it was just a green cover with the title of the book.
Speaker 1:So you know, you can restimulate more bypass charge than you can handle and that's when the tone arm goes up on the E-meter. The tone arm shows the presence. Reduction or increase always shows the presence, but it shows the change in the amount of mental mass that is going on with the pre-clear or the pre-OT at any given time. And when you overwhelm a PC with too much bypass charge, then now you're going to really have to do some handling. And what you're doing, all you're doing with auditing, is you're selectively re-stimulating one little thing and you're handling it. So you get an FNCOG, vg, cognition, very good indicators, Re-stimulate, checking a question. We're stimulating one little thing. If it doesn't read, we don't run it. You check it a few different ways and if it doesn't read, you move on. Same thing. And that's what this is. Auditing is selective gradient. One little bit of information, find it, handle it next find it, handle it next.
Speaker 1:find it, handle it next on various subjects. And if somebody has a big issue going on in their life and there's a lot of charge, let's say it's interiorization, exteriorization, where the person has births and deaths restimulated, which is very common, and this is something that happens early on in auditing. When the person goes exterior early on on the bridge, they get restimulated on earlier births and deaths per the Scientology interiorization rundown series. And so what this does is it overwhelms the PC and you can't do anything else. The tone arm is high. You have to handle this thing before you handle anything else, anything else. And that's handled with New Era Dianetics. If the person has to have it handled again, it can be done with Scientology Auditing because you've already handled it with New neurodianetics. If the person has to have it handled again, it can be done with Scientology auditing because you've already handled it with neurodianetics and something else has restimulated them and you're just trying to cool it off that type of thing, because it can happen more than once that a person can get restimulated on it, because there's only so much that they can access at one particular time when you're running it, and so the more the person's recall increases the more they can access, the more they can re-stimulate his bypass charge. So it's interesting that while you're handling something, you can re-stimulate a big ball of energy somewhere earlier birds, earlier deaths, that are engrams and this throws the tone arm way up and you have to handle it. But this is what happens in auditing. It just depends what gets restimulated. You touch on this thing and you're handling green beans and then something comes up about car accidents and that leads to this whole chain of things. So it's bypass charge and you have to handle it. And then you get back to your regular schedule of what you're trying to do and get back to restimulating one little thing. Restimulating one little thing. So in life, in the physical universe and as a Thetan, you're going to have bypass charge. Come up on things.
Speaker 1:If you can't, you can't live in a hermetically sealed environment and think that you're gonna just avoid anything that re-stimulates you. So being in a body re-stimulates you. Being in the physical universe re-stimulates you. Having communication with people re-stimulates you. Lower communication, lower tone communication, maybe higher tone communication. But the thing is is that as you handle the bypass charge, you tend to not get re-stimulated on as many things. So you're throwing the water out of the boat and the bilge pump starts to get caught up. And now you don't have as much water in the boat, boat isn't as heavy, the sails start working, you can start moving to your destination faster, instead of the boat sinking into the water.
Speaker 1:That's the best analogy that one can use is that you're so overburdened you can't get anything done. And this applies to flows as well. You know, if you've got a lot of bypass charge on flows, you're trying to make money. What are you going to do? Well, you have to handle that bypass charge in that area that's blocking that flow as a ridge. A ridge is a defined area of energy where you've got one side pushing one way and another side pushing another, or you've got something putting a ridge there, and the only way to do that is to handle the bypass charge in that area so that the ridge goes away. And this is how auditing works, how flows open.
Speaker 1:You know that type of a thing because you've got this postulate, counter postulate. And why is there a postulate in the first place? Because there's some bypass charge that's holding that postulate there. That made you put the postulate there in the first place. That's what's at the bottom of an NIDGRAM. That's why an engram doesn't blow unless you get the posture lit off. Because you made a decision about something because of bypass charge, that you ran into and said I'm going to go left instead of straight, or I'm going to go right instead of straight, or I'm going to go backwards, because this is the only way to handle this, because I can't handle this bypass charge, so I'm going to, I'm going to put this thing here. That's, that apparently solves it. That apparently solves it.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, okay, so Okay, that's a lot of information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is Kind of got on a roll there.
Speaker 1:But the sum of the case is it's bypass charge and that's the way that it needs to be looked at is if, if you're, if you're not feeling right about something or you're possessed about something or you're, you know there's bypass charge there that hasn't been handled. That's true for me, it's true for you, it's true for everybody. It's finding and handling the correct bypass charge, and when you do, you're going to quote, unquote, feel better as a Thetan, as a being, and you're going to have flows unstuck. It's just a matter of finding it. That's what the meter's for, that's what auditing's for, and LRH said okay, so we're going to make a map, systematic map, of all of the things that need to be handled in their proper order, so that a person can go clear, so that a person can do the first OT level, the second, the third, the fourth, that type of thing. You're not able to confront it because there are earlier bypass charges that need to be handled before you can actually confront the greater bypass charge. You're lightening the load, as it were.
Speaker 2:I hope that helps, okay, okay, so what would it look like? Actually, here's a question. So let's say intuition, right? So sometimes, intuitively, you might get a gut feeling towards something or someone, a situation, a situation. So how would that differ physically from, say, bypass charge? You know, would? Um? So if I haven't have a gut feeling around a particular situation, um, I'm going to boss and I've got a gut feeling my boss is going to give me a hard time when I get to work. Then I get to work and nothing happens, right? So that gut feeling that I had, was it potential bypass charge versus, say, an intuitive feeling, like, would there be much of a difference? Or would you say the intuitive aspect is potentially bypass charge, which is why you're feeling a particular sensation?
Speaker 1:Well, and that's a that's a great question, because what Ron says on that is if you knew it was wrong with you, it wouldn't be wrong with you. Think about that for a second, as as we've been talking about bypass charge, if you knew it was wrong with you, it wouldn't be wrong with you. So if you could, if you could, indicate the bypass charge, you'd already be clear in ot so you'd rock up to work and you'd just do what you have to do.
Speaker 1:Well, you would be living the life that you want to live.
Speaker 1:Chances are you wouldn't be rocking up to work, chances are you wouldn't be rocking up to work to a job, because if we could handle it on our own, we would. Because if they can considers themselves messed, you go out, walk up to the man on the street and you say, you know? I walk up to one of the people walking in front of my house here or something like that say, did you know that you're a spiritual being and that you're not a body? How many people would actually go? Yes, I do. We've got ourselves convinced. What are you talking about? Right, you're crazy. Right, god chooses my path Because Thetan has gone so far down that they have to assign cause to something else, because they can't take responsibility for anything themselves. And God works in mysterious ways and you know, that's just it. And they stop inspecting it and they just go. That's life.
Speaker 1:Life sucks and you know, that's it, whereas if you could handle it and you get out of this, you know I am messed, I am a spiritual being. Okay, and you can do it, and you can do it stably. Okay, then there you go Now. Now you're cooking and now you can do solo auditing and you can spot these other areas of bypass charge that are part of the composite case. And now you're really moving along and there's a lot, a lot of charge where you might get.
Speaker 1:If you're lucky, you might get two and a half divisions of tone arm in an hour in a session at the lower end of the bridge. Two and a half divisions In an OT session. You might get somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 50. In some cases I've had a couple of sessions where I got over 50 divisions of TA in an auditing session. That's. I mean, that's that's 20 times.
Speaker 1:So you have to be able to address this in a systematic way to where now you can confront more and your awareness is there that you can now spot the bypass charge on your own on the OT levels. It's just that way and it's not there to make money for somebody, it's just. This is how far down in the well that we are. Instead of a 10-foot line of rope to get the person out of there, you've got 50 feet that you have to pull the person up and as you go it becomes less rope, less rope, less rope and they're finally up to the surface. And here you are, you're at zero. Okay, I can see what's going on here, I'm aware of these things. And LRH says check this shit up.
Speaker 2:And you're like oh my God, I never knew this was there, and I think if I was to try to imagine what that would feel like or what would happen to me in that state, I'm probably thinking it'd be along the lines of less mental noise when it comes to decision making, when it comes to life choices, when it comes to your justifications for not doing something that you really want to do just won't exist, and so, therefore, you're more than likely going to do something you want to do without fear, without anything getting in the way of you wanting to do that, and probably doing it in a healthy way rather than you know, I suppose, in an emotionally driven way. And I suppose, even then, the amount of emotional control you could have in your life as well, without those emotional decisions, it would just be a decision, you know, like having a glass of water or as simple as going for a walk, or right yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean you have a lot less background noise, you know, I mean it's, it's. It's sort of like you have so many sources. If you've ever been in a noisy environment, you know in a busy, busy downtown area and there's just noise coming from so many different sources and you're like God, I can't think I got to close the window, you know, just shut the radio off, shut the TV off. You know those are all. Those are all re-stimulators for people when they have a reactive mind. And if you eliminate the re-stimulators and you give them a calm environment, that's quiet. But sometimes a calm and quiet environment is restimulated to some people too. That's right. Yeah, you know it depends on the being and what's restimulative to them, but it's important to note that as you handle it is just like the confusion formula in Scientology Find a particle, handle it. Find another particle handleology. Find a particle, handle it. Find another particle, handle it. Find another particle, handle it. This is where all this data came from. Is this came from auditing? And he just looked at it from a different angle and said, okay, this is what we gotta do when a person's in confusion, you find a particle and you handle it. Now there's one less thing driving them nuts Now you handle it. Now. There's one less thing driving them nuts Now you handle this. Okay. There's one less thing driving them nuts Because you're looking at such an over-restimulation that the person has gone down the conditions, the ethics conditions in Scientology, to a point of confusion.
Speaker 1:They're so overwhelmed, they're just completely in confusion. They're not even close to being able to go in session because they're in such a confusion. So you then go from confusion. You've got treason and enemy, doubt, liability, non-existence, danger, emergency, normal affluence, power, power change. That's the scale. So at some point you've got enough stability, stable datums in your life that you can function and you can start performing a forward path, a plan, and get it done so that you can get on with things.
Speaker 1:That's what it comes down to is you're doing the same thing with auditing, as you are, the Scientology ethics conditions, and the only thing that can stop you from progressing is false data where you're a potential trouble source. That's what hangs a person up and down. So that's bypass charge that you have to handle is being a potential trouble source. You've got some suppression going on. That's bypass charge on somebody in your past or somebody in your present. That's suppressing you. You get that out of the way. You don't have any false data, or maybe you do. You get that handled. So you've got the right information. Now you can get out of doubt and you can get into liability on the first dynamic. Then you can get into nonexistence and go okay, okay, what's needed and wanted All right, now I need to do, produce and present it.
Speaker 1:So you know you're handling bypass charge in lots of different ways in Scientology, not just with auditing. You know getting information and reading it from a book, listening to a lecture if it's the proper gradient lecture for you. You're putting more order in by having more information to operate off of, just by learning the concepts. And the same thing is true with auditing is you're learning the concepts that you have taught yourself were a certain way and you think that's the right way to go, because life has said you're going to do this, whether you want to or not, and you're like, okay, okay, okay, this is how I'll operate. And you've been beat down by the physical universe. You've made these decisions. And then you go in session with an auditor and you look at it from a different perspective, where it's you and the auditor looking at the reactive mind and you go, wow, that was a screwy viewpoint that I had on that. Why the hell did I ever decide that? Okay, now you've keyed that out, that bypass charge isn't there, and so on and so on and so on.
Speaker 1:So there are lots of different ways to do it. That's all Scientology is. That's all Dianetics is, you could say, knowing how to know. Okay, well, how do you know how to know? Handle some bypass charge so you can start knowing that's it. That's it. Scientology is handling bypass charge in one way or another. Same thing with the administrative policies and everything is you have a bunch of people running around. There's no organization, because they all have bypass charge on how to organize something and they think it needs to be done a certain way and it's contra survival. So you're trying to put order in in order to prevent bypass charge People getting upset. This guy didn't do this. Where's my invoice? How come this is late? No, no, no, no all this stuff, I mean everything.
Speaker 1:Everything is a restimator that's causing you to have a reaction, reaction, reactivity, reactive mind is causing you and debilitating you from being able to get on with the show for yourself across your dynamics because of all of this bypass charge. And that's all LRH was doing with all of this stuff was saying here's a different angle on how to do this in this area, here's a different way to do this, a different angle on this in this area. That's all it is. Period. That's what. Knowing how to know is Know what, know where the bypass charge is, so that you can see the trees for the forest, and now you can climb higher, be able to see what for the forest, and now you can go climb higher, be able to see what's going on, and now you've got an exterior viewpoint. Okay, next thing we need to confront is even a bigger kettle of fish. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2:And it's interesting Go ahead. Cause, like, like just in the everyday, like not using scientology terms, you'd see bypass charge in so many different ways through people having anxiety through. You know my favorite thing lately? The narcissist through or narcissistic behaviors um bipolars, adhds, any sporadic kind of I don't know anything that doesn't seem to fit in society's norms or things that people struggle with, they just can't seem to get out of, they can't get ahead they can't move forward.
Speaker 2:They can't sleep properly, they're restless, they're agitated, they're angry, they're, you know, lost love, like all these things that I don't know, I suppose, aberrate society. That seem to be big themes that need to have awareness towards, and need to have medication for, need to need to need to, awareness towards and need to have medication for, need to need to need to need to need to yeah, as opposed to just going to the source of it and then naturally normalizing, as opposed to putting so much pressure on yourself. And the funny thing is, these techniques are very user-friendly, like they're not. They're not um aggressive techniques and they're not invasive.
Speaker 1:they're, they're none of those things like they're, yeah, they're, they're very gradient things that anybody can do. Yeah, I mean, you look at, look at self-analysis lists, recall a time you, you, you smelled the wildflower and what was the touch? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's how that's an in Recall the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's in ARC. You know it's not out Affinity to Reality, Communication and Understanding. It's very, very light touch, Whereas you know you're at curious on the CDEI scale. Curious, desired, enforced, inhibited, no one refused. You're curious on this, whereas the way things are on this planet is do it or fucking else do it yeah, get your taxes in or you're going to jail or how do I do my taxes?
Speaker 2:I don't know how to do my taxes. You know that sort of thing that's right, that's right and the anxiety and the things that can come from the pressure, of say, taxes. You know people will go to the point where they'll kill themselves yeah, because there's so much charge that they can't confront it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're overwhelmed. Yeah, there's no, there's no solution to it. And if somebody was there somebody, you know, you see these call boxes on these bridges in the united states. I'm sure they have them elsewhere. That's the only place I've seen them where there's a bridge. And you know, suicide hotline. Pick up the phone and call somebody. Somebody sits there and talks to them and says no, you know, I'm literally talking you off of a bridge, you know, because there's so much bypass charge there. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1:If you indicate the bypass charge this is the next, next step here in the podcast If you indicate the bypass charge, the PC goes yeah, yeah, I was really beefing me up because you're indicating it through what's on the meter. You can't do. You can't do that. I mean, you know, I've thought about, you know, if there was an app that could be on your watch. That was a meter and you had your little bypass charge app. And as you're going through life, your Apple watch says, hey, there was some bypass charge there on that thought you just had. You know, just-. That's actually a really really cool idea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just in everyday life. You just uncovered some bypass charge. I thought I'd let you know.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Siri, because you're not on the meter all the time. I mean, life is what is going on outside of sessions, and to the degree that you have your life in order is to the degree that you're not experiencing as much bypass charge, so there's less water coming into the boat and the boat just floats and does what it's supposed to do, and so that's the thing is being able to get the indication that there's bypass charge there, and as you go up the bridge, you can indicate to yourself, even if you don't have a meter hey, you know, I've got some bypass charge on this, and, and that that communication cycle just makes you feel better. Yeah, I've got bypass charge on this, and that's. That's a really cool idea. I like that idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because imagine walking around all day, every day, getting into life and not even realizing you have bypass charge, but then you've got an indicator that will show it, because there'll be so many elements that will be just so normal to you you don't even realize it's there until you realize it.
Speaker 1:Right, because that's what the tone arm on a meter is is. It's saying how charged up are you? Yeah, okay, and if you're above 3.0, and maybe you're above 4.0, 4.5, 5.0 on the tone arm, you're pretty charged up. You've got a lot of charge going on there. You can say, yeah, I need to get in session. I mean, you know it's an index, that's what an auditor uses it for. There's a lot of bypass charge here. Okay, we need to do a correction list, we need to find out what's going on.
Speaker 1:So, you know, just rolling through life every day, rocking up to work, like you say, you know that can build up bypass charge because there are these things here that you haven't been able to spot that are affecting you, slowing you down, because there's this mental mass that has been restimulated but not yet de-stimulated that causes you to feel so beefed up about things. And you look at the stuff in the news media and all of that and it's just beefed up. And it's beefed up and everything is. You know the battle for this and we're going to war for that. And and and. Everything is looked, everything is looked at and and characterized through the metaphor of battle, even, even professional games. You know, these two teams are going to head and they're going to go into battle.
Speaker 1:What the fuck is that all about? I mean, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're literally trying to say this is a mock, a mock war. These two guys well, a bunch of guys kicking a ball around, or throwing a ball around, or knocking a ball around with some implement, whether it's baseball or it's, it's a, uh, what's the cricket? You know that. That highlight whatever, and and so you, just you just have these people that are constantly restimulating battle, battle, fight. It's a fight for this. You've got to fight to survive. It's a fight to get through college. It's why. Why is it a why? Why, what is it? What does it have to be that way? Why isn't it a game?
Speaker 2:maybe, um, maybe, it's a real life representation of what actually goes inside of us. Maybe that's why these things are that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's the bypass charge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the battle of the mind, yeah, yeah yeah, that's the bypass charge and so everything is characterized as a battle of the mind.
Speaker 1:Can I get my shit together? Well enough to quote unquote beat the opponent, beat. Think about that. I'm going to beat my opponent. What's the word beat mean? Knock the shit out of them.
Speaker 2:I'm going to beat them knock the shit out of them, I'm gonna beat them. So, using that um as an analogy, then, with the best position to be in that situation you're, you're witnessing a battle between two teams, a game, be it football or whatever it is. Then, as as as the observer, you've paid a ticket to witness this game, is that the position you should be holding the excitement of the game, not necessarily the war itself, but just being able to witness the game without being injured, without being tired, without being aggressive or any of those things, just literally being able to witness the game and enjoy it.
Speaker 1:And of course some games you know you won't enjoy right, you know that's a flow three.
Speaker 1:You know others to others flow one is others to you. Flow two is you to others. Flow zero is you to yourself? Think about that, and you know this. This gets, gets back into what l rates talks about, about goals, problems, mass. They're two opposing forces and in the middle it's like two hoses. You know of water. And then there's a big ball of water in the middle and so it it it's, it stays there and it gets stuck, and and so it it persists.
Speaker 1:And that's that's the thing is is, do you want to play games that take your attention off of the games? You can't, you can't decide, and it's a distraction to gladiators in the Coliseum, you know dueling to the death or a bunch of them dueling to the death or whatever for entertainment purposes, and, uh, the winners go on and go on and kill some other people, and you know that type of thing and this. It's just a complete distraction. That means nothing. At the end of the day, it's two or three hours that you won't get back. Now, I'm not saying there's any. You know anything wrong with watching a, a match, a game, if it's a game. But the thing is, is it's bypass charge.
Speaker 1:Why? Why do people need distractions? Why do they need distraction? Yeah, pretty simple. Yeah, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 1:If I had the choice of a distraction tv, I almost never watched tv. Almost never watched tv. Yeah, for, for, but I mean for reasons that it's obvious manipulation to me, but my awareness is there that it's like I, I already know what's going to happen the, the, the protagonist isn't going to die in this episode, because if he did, we wouldn't have a tv show. So what's the fucking point? That's right, it's, it's, it's made up. And you have these people that are, you know, I, I love star wars as a kid, and you have these people that that they're. They're so imbued into this fictional fantasy universe. That's all made up, all made up. It isn't their universe, it's some other universe. People have learned the klingon language from star trek. Somebody made up a whole language for a whole race that doesn't exist, because they needed a distraction. Now, the distraction was creativity. Somebody was creative enough to create a whole language based off of a race that doesn't exist in a fictional tv show from the 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2020s now.
Speaker 1:And so you have all of these distractions. Why are you being distracted? Why are you being distracted? Why are you being distracted? What is it that you're not willing to confront, not willing to look at that? You need a distraction that allows you to give you this feeling of creativity and everything. Nothing wrong with creativity, I'm not trying to say that but it distracts you from bypass charts that could or should be handled. That might just get this civilization out of the shithole. Sorry, I'm going to be a little blunt here and a little coarse, but that's what this is all about.
Speaker 2:Focus on something far greater than entertainment like purpose. Right, creating purpose over just me entertainment. Right, creating purpose over just mere entertainment. Right, and and it's funny because, like you mentioning that, you know a lot of people strive for entertainment in many different ways, as opposed to striving for something much greater and much purposeful, whatever that might be to the individual. As far as a creative ability goes, yeah, you know, people will spend a lot of money like I don't know about up there, but here, for example, you know the ocean, people will spend a lot of money on a boat that goes really, really fast, or you know, so they'll devote a lot of their time to that. And what's interesting is like, on one hand, it's a creative genius thing that is just produced for something entertaining. Nothing more, nothing less. Right?
Speaker 2:It's not going to take us out of this planet. It's not going to cure a disease. No, it's not going to make our awareness greater. It's not going to de-aberrate us. If anything, it's going to distract us from aberrations, right and bypass charges. And it might even create more bypass charge, because your neighbor just bought a hundred and fifty thousand dollar boat that will go, you know, half as fast as yours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, and you know, if you want to, if you want to deconstruct it really quickly, and a person person is, you know, spending all this time and money and effort and energy and all this stuff on boating and they're like you know, wow, this just really makes me feel great, it makes me feel invigorated. What are they doing? They're keying themselves out and it's a distraction from their case because it gives them something to feel better about, as opposed to how they would feel if they weren't doing that.
Speaker 2:And people get really, really good at these things, you know, and and that's that's almost like a yeah, so it's almost like a false purpose as opposed to a humanitarian purpose, in a sense yeah, it's a placebo.
Speaker 1:It's a placebo. You know it keys them out and then they go back to their day job, that that that affords them the ability to buy the boat and and the motor, and you know the licenses and da, da, da, da, da, and you know fish finders and all this stuff, and it's the only thing that makes them happy. It's what they go to work for, in order to get away from the key ends, the bypass charge at work, the job that they don't like, and this whole society circles around two days a week Saturday and Sunday. Those are the holy days for people, because they get to do what they want, not what they have to do.
Speaker 1:Why is it that they have to do what they have to do? Because they can't seem to get past something that is preventing them from doing what they would really like to do. That would help them make the money that they want to make, so on and so forth. Because there's this bypass charge sitting there and it's a solution to a problem. It's always a solution to a problem. The bypass charge is the problem. That's the point of this podcast yeah, interesting, interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's good it's really good.
Speaker 1:So I hope that dispels any misunderstandings. And and how pervasive bypass charge is Is bypass charge is what Scientology handles and what it's for, what Dianetics is for to relieve you of the things that are holding you back. And you can look at anything and go, wow, that's charging me up, there's something there, there's bypass charge there. Ha ha, you've just done yourself a favor. You've just done yourself a favor. You've just done yourself a favor by indicating that bypass charge when you got beefed up about something and then you can tell yourself that and you can tell your case supervisor that you can say I need to get in session and address this thing and then write it down on a piece of paper. These are things that beef me up, that type of a thing. So it's not something I hear people who aren't auditors mention very much and I wanted to make it more part of the vernacular in the dictionary of commonly used words that, if you're going to be an independent Scientologist and Dianeticist, understanding this concept is key to not being the adverse effect of everything around you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, that's good yeah.
Speaker 1:So, for Arthur and myself, we hope this cleared some things up for you and we will see you later on this week with another podcast. Take care everybody, nam, on this week with another podcast. Take care everybody, namaste, and we love you. Bye-bye.
Speaker 2:Bye-bye, thank you, thank you, you.