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SE11EP32 - Independent Scientology - Changing Your Reality Forever
What if everything you've been taught about reality is fundamentally wrong? What if the solid, unyielding world around you is actually "chimerical" – existing only as a product of unchecked imagination? This groundbreaking episode dives deep into how we can permanently transform our experience of reality by understanding its true malleable nature.
Drawing from L. Ron Hubbard's profound 1954 lecture "Universe Processes Experience," we explore the fascinating structure of existence itself – your personal universe, others' universes, and the shared physical universe we all navigate. The key revelation? Your perception of reality isn't fixed at all, but can be fundamentally reshaped through changing your postulates rather than struggling to alter external conditions.
Most people spend their lives caught in a frustrating loop, believing that changing their environment, relationships, or financial situation will bring lasting happiness. But as we discover, these approaches have severely limited effectiveness. True transformation happens at the level of thought and postulate, not by rearranging the physical universe.
This understanding becomes particularly crucial in today's media-saturated world. We examine how constant exposure to dramatizations – from violence to political division – creates restimulation and forces people into reactive mind patterns. By recognizing these external attempts to shape your thinking and applying self-discipline to avoid restimulation, you can maintain sovereignty over your own reality creation.
Perhaps most liberating is the recognition that you are not your body. When someone experiences exteriorization through auditing, it demonstrates that survival extends beyond physical existence. This realization alone can transform your entire approach to life, freeing you from identification with something that "can age or be killed or die."
Ready to reclaim your ability to make effective postulates in your own universe? Ready to disentangle yourself from the universes of others where their postulates dominate? This episode provides both the philosophical framework and practical steps to forever change how you experience existence itself. Subscribe now and join us on this transformative journey.
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All right and welcome to another Scientology Outside of the Church podcast. This is season 11, episode 32. Already it's Sunday, september 14th 2025, and I'm here with Arthur and Quentin and this is episode three of this week. This is brought to you by ao-gporg and the college of independent Scientologycom, our online course room and social media platform with our AI on both sites, where you can go and have a conversation with Finn, our handy dandy little AI, or you can get on our Oracle AI, which is what we use to create these podcasts along with Finn, and ask any question you want. And boy, people use it all the time. Let me tell you, and it's just amazing.
Speaker 1:So, to get going, we are going to call this episode how to Change your Reality Forever. That's the working title. I'm not making any promises here we're not but that's what we're thinking it's going to be by the time we get the artwork done for it, and it's bright and early in the morning here, in the middle of the afternoon, where quentin and arthur are, so we're going to get rolling. So how do we change our reality forever, especially with what's going on here on planet Earth and the dramatizations that we are seeing worldwide? There's a lot going on and a lot of it is not terribly theta. So Quentin came up with this 1954. It's from the 5th. It a fifth ACC advanced clinical course.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So let's get rolling on this. What, what's the story with? Uh and the? The? The, the ACC lecture title is and I'll post the transcripts on YouTube when we get done here, and any other references, always, from now on, is, and I'll post the transcripts on youtube when we get done here, and any other references. Always, from now on, all the references that we mentioned will be in the comments on youtube that you can download and have as a pdf or read. Yeah, it takes a lot of work but it's, it's well worth it for our listeners. And the title of this is universe Processes Experience. It's from the Advanced Clinical Course number five, lecture eight, april 8th 1954, which is about a year after the one we mentioned yesterday in our podcast. So how do you change your reality?
Speaker 2:I think the first thing is really starting out understanding what our perceived reality really consists of, right, and I think we talked about it yesterday, where we said that it is your universe, others' universes, and then the shared universe, right, what we call the missed universe.
Speaker 2:And so your universe, as you are right now sitting there listening to this podcast, whatever's going on around you, whatever your experience is, whatever your life is, that's your universe. I have my own universe, jonathan has his own, art has his own, and then we have a shared universe that we get to kind of play in and experience things in with each other, and so we're kind of living as our own universe in and as our own universe, bumping into other people's universes within this shared larger universe, as it were, apparently. And then we're, we're staying. Now, you know, you stepped on my shoe, you know, or whatever and that becomes. That becomes a problem in society, because people go around stepping on folks, shoes and things, and so what we're looking at it is all these universes bumping into each other and you wonder why there's so much social unrest right?
Speaker 1:well, it all comes down to shared agreement. Shared agreement. Did you see what happened? And we were talking about this before the podcast, arthur. What was it you said it was? What was it that was all over instagram?
Speaker 3:um like around um charlie kirk and this poor lady that got stabbed on the bus right, oh, on the train, on the train, on the train yeah, on a, on a subway train, and then these things are propagated out there.
Speaker 1:look what happened. Look what happened. We were talking about this yesterday, yet dayton chooses to be restimulated. So I've I've had people say check this out, look at this, look at this, this, this, this instagram. Look at this Instagram post, look at this TikTok post, look at this Facebook post. And I said I don't need that image, I don't need that video, I don't need to see that.
Speaker 3:I've seen it. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:I've seen an image prior to the actual overt act that occurred that this girl lost her life because of, but I refuse to accept an image that will restimulate me. I don't need that Restimulate me. I don't need that. I made the mistake many years ago. Somebody shared a beheading with me.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:A beheading yeah, it was a Mexican cartel beheading of a woman who was so heavily drugged, her heart was beating so slow she barely bled out out at all. And I mean, and I I wish I'd never watched it, I wish I. And from that point on I was like you know what, I don't need to do this anymore. And I thought, okay, and that's been my policy, I don't need to see this. If somebody wants to say in text, did this happen, you know? Or a description of what happened, okay, that's to say in text, did this happen? Or a description of what happened, okay, that's still, it's not a I don't need to know. I'm not going to do that because you have to go. Okay, they're pushing this button, they're pushing this button, and the button that they're pushing is how bad things really are, and we're going to get into the actual subject matter of the lecture, but we're talking about this in a modern context. Go ahead, quentin.
Speaker 2:Which also brings us back to what we talked about recently and artists in the process of this, with the pro-TRs and objectives, and it's like they're pushing this button. But one of the great things about doing your TRs and objectives and it's like they're pushing this button but one of the great things about doing your TRs and having your TRs in is that you actually get a chance to flatten a lot of buttons right.
Speaker 2:And so one cannot be easily pushed around if one is able to be there and be comfortable in the universe without having buttons be pushed, or not be able to be there and be comfortable in there in the universe without having buttons be pushed or not be able to be pushed in certain ways. And so I think it's really interesting, um, that that proteas kind of comes up again in all this it.
Speaker 1:It really is and the the way this, this, this carries over.
Speaker 1:Here is what we're trying to say is we do these podcasts and we mention that you need to get auditing, you need to get training, but especially now from my viewpoint, from a KRC knowledge, responsibility and control viewpoint is we need to make our subscribers, our listeners, aware of what it is that is going on and you need to rise above it.
Speaker 1:That which is going on that is the point is that it used to be long, long ago and I'm talking hundreds of years ago that the only way people got news was verbally, before the printing press, before the internet, and the only information you you got was a decree from whoever the wealthy landowner was generally a king or a, a duke or or whatever, depending on where you're at in the world somebody who, who owned land and said okay, this is what's going to happen, this is what you have to do, and this you know, from the Mongols to Europe, you know every society had this, and things are said in order to get a desired result, and LRH says that emotion is used to get a desired result. Yep, okay.
Speaker 2:Dialing up the emotion.
Speaker 1:Right. And how do you dial up the emotion? You say, well, we're going to say this to the peasants. Okay, well, that's going to get them to do something else. And this goes back to Machiavellian theory, which was an Italian prince who owned a lot of land in several cities in Italy, and what he would do is he would third party and we'll put this up on YouTube. It's going to take me forever for all the things we're mentioning, but he would third party, one city against another city. He'd say you know, do you know what this city is doing? You guys need to do something about this. This is, this is pretty dangerous. And they'd be like what? Well, we've got to rise up and we need to attack those people because, well, it's our survival, they can't have our crops and the other. He'd go to the other city and say did you know what they're doing? And they're saying and a third party is just that, it's an unseen influence by both parties. Okay, Now what Quentin was saying at the beginning of the podcast, in the axioms about there's your universe, the universe of others and agreed universe, okay, and what you're seeing currently is the same Machiavellian theory, plain and simple.
Speaker 1:I don't know that LRH has mentioned it, but I'll put a link to it in the YouTube comments as well so that you can look this up yourself. Don't take my word for it, but the thing is is it creates division, and when it creates division, you're trying to create another universe that people will agree upon, and that's what this lecture is about. Now Alleray says in this lecture and feel free to jump in, guys if I'm stealing the mic here Alleray says what are the factors, the aberrative factors of life? Is life itself completely aberrative? Is there any way to you might say, beat it? Is there any way to lick this thing called life? Well, that's quite a thing to undertake, really. All in a few minutes, sit down with some pre-clear and go bang, bang, bang, and he feels better.
Speaker 1:Remember this individual, at least so far as we can trace on a knee meter, has been about 76 trillion years on a time track, and if you're wanting to hear a lecture on time track, this is a great one. He's had experience after experience after experience after experience. He's been through things they wouldn't dare film or describe anywhere, and yet we have the total conceit of, in using a few words, of attempting to resolve his wobbliness, his inabilities, his incapacities, which have resulted from these experiences. Now just look at that a moment. He says that's quite a thing to do. It's even imprudent to fly in the face of all existence. Sit down with somebody and say yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, and this other person says so-and-so and so-and-so, and all of a sudden they feel better about existence. Well, to envision the fact this could be done would have to be a pretty mighty vision anyhow. But the truth of the matter is it can be done, it is being done. So he goes on to say now we have a totally mechanical problem confronting us when we look at a preclear.
Speaker 1:When I say we have a totally mechanical problem, it's all because this is wrong with what it's? Because all this is wrong with him is mechanical. What is wrong with him is the mechanical aspect of existence. The individual has become dependent upon the mechanics of existence to carry him forward, somehow or another, to some unknown destination. He knows not. What of this is the way he looks at it. He's totally dependent upon a society, a civilization, upon a body, upon his eyesight, upon his charm, personality, personality, his education, and somehow or another he's going to manage to get through. By doing what? By being totally dependent in all directions and self-determined on almost none ain't that something?
Speaker 2:and and so he, and so he goes through life thinking that these mechanics of life, the trappings of life, as we call it, is life itself is the stuff of life. And the truth is that you've had the power all along, dorothy. Life is in you right now. It is you that is able to create life to your specifications, and I like it from that perspective that I'm creating life to my specs, my specifications, and I say it all the time the higher your standards, the better your life, because I now specify what it is that gets to be in my experience.
Speaker 1:Right. And that comes down to what is it that you're agreeing with? On the third and fourth dynamic Right as it affects your first dynamic.
Speaker 2:Or, or, or, I would say even disagreeing with too, because it's interesting, because the things that we find deplorable or disagreeable or heinous, you know, we tend to look at it longer, sometimes Like a train wreck or a car crash. And you're going down the road and it's like your whole head turns around, your whole neck turns around looking at the car crash.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing that we find the most heinous, but we give that more attention right now lrh goes on to say he says well, the funny part of it is he can't do anything else. It's utterly impossible for this pre-clear you as a phaeton to do anything but survive. You can't kill a phaeton. The artificiality is that he you can't kill a Phaeton. The artificiality is that he may cease to survive. He believes that he can cease to survive. He has himself identified with objects the structure or form of which can be destroyed. He's identified with a body. A body can age or be killed or die, and so he can seize himself capable of aging or dying. Well, this is an identification with something, that something can happen to. Nothing can happen to the preclear or thing. Right, so you have to, you have to look at it and separate yourself out from I gotta survive.
Speaker 2:I gotta survive to survive too, I can survive.
Speaker 2:I can't help but survive, and everything I'm doing is to experience greater survival, and this is why, you know, I say I never worry about money, like I never worry about money because I can survive. And that we talked to, and we said this in the last podcast as well, is that the value and the worth is within you. You are your own currency and and and God, the currency of ideas, are the currency of gods, and so if you, if you find yourself lacking funds, come up with a new currency, a new idea, right, ideas of the currency of gods, and so we get into this world where we think that these trappings are the thing that makes us survive better. And it's not. It's not, and it's such a, it's such an inverted, an inverted flow.
Speaker 2:Now, I like listen, I like nice stuff as much as the next guy. Okay, I like nice things as much as this guy, but I like it to be something that I this is the word I use, I don't got to use this word but something that I conjure into my experience. Right, yeah, yeah, I put, I put it there, and if you really break down the word, it means with play, conjure, which means to play, and so I bring it about with play. Conjure, which means to play, and so I bring it about with play. Right, it's almost like a, it's almost like a game, it's almost whimsical. It's almost almost a, a poetic, you know, sing-songy kind of thing, where you conjure it, you bring things into and with play and you make it so that this now becomes the new game that I want to play.
Speaker 1:I want to play a new car game. Okay, right, and and lrh has a a quote about the spirit of play, which I'll post on youtube as well, and that's where you should be at is in games on the tone scale. Yeah, now, this is the the, the last bit here about this first stage. What we're going to talk about here in the podcast, ellery says processing works because the apparent solidity of the messed universe matter energy, space and time. The physical universe that you find yourself in while you're listening to this podcast is the messed universe. He says. It's ultimate, ultimately and we might want to clear this up for people chimerical. What's the definition of chimerical?
Speaker 2:I got it right here chimerical means existing only as a product of unchecked imagination. So something that exists exists only as a product of unchecked imagination. So the per lrh, the material universe, the universe, exists only as a product of unchecked imagination.
Speaker 1:So if we were to use chimerical in a sentence for our?
Speaker 2:listeners. Let's see. Um, jonathan told me a chimerical story about when he sold a million widgets on the corner of Main and Fifth Street.
Speaker 3:Living a chimerical experience.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, in the physical universe. So I'll repeat what the idea is here again. What he says is processing works, because the apparent solidity of the master of the physical universe is ultimately, ultimately chimerical, allowing cases to be resolved by addressing thought and postulates rather than matter. Let that sink in.
Speaker 3:Initially, we want to try to change our matter, don't we? We believe the matter around us is the issue.
Speaker 1:Right, Right. So somebody comes to me and says well, I want to earn more money.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:I get that all the time. All the time I want to earn more money. Okay, so we don't need to address money, yeah let's talk about the thoughts and postulates, right, exactly.
Speaker 2:And he says here it is chimerical. No matter what its great, massive magnificence is, it is totally chimerical, totally. I think this is interesting. Only if it were totally chimerical could you ever resolve a case. If it really did possess the tremendous solidity that it pretends to possess, you would never resolve a case. And so if think about this, if life were really as hard as we have been tricked to believe by life, by the mess universe, right, if this stuff was really as solid as we've been tricked to believe, really as solid as we've been tricked to believe, it would be unresolvable, it'll be an unresolvable condition. And that's how it feels to a lot of people. That's how it feels to a lot of people that it's like this unresolvable massive thing. And so they'll go throughout life either super depressed, super anxious, avoiding things, sometimes even taking themselves, you know, you know unaliving themselves because they think that life cannot be resolved. But the truth of the matter is it's totally chimerical.
Speaker 1:He says. He says here a little further on. So it's odd that the business of livingness itself is not a process unless it is immediately and intimately coupled with thinkingness, which is to say thought itself. If you couple livingness with thought, it becomes more livable. But if you address thought, the impulse to create, the impulse to destroy the ability of the individual to make postulates, why then and there, and only then and there, are you able to resolve a case? You are dealing with a problem wherein all the solidities are actually chimerical and where the only actuality really has no mass, no space, no energy connected with it and no time. So changing your reality that it becomes down to that true change occurs at the level of thought and postulate, not merely by adjusting your external physical universe conditions. Living this alone is not a process unless joined with thinking this. You, as a thetan, do not age, though it often identifies with the body, and that's the thing is, you have to stop identifying with the physical universe.
Speaker 1:I saw this in the news. This happened. Did you see what happened to Charlie Kirk? Did you see that horrible, awful video? And now you're stimulated and you're making postulates off of a push button, reaction, reactivity, and that is the point of this podcast is how do you change your own reality? What is it that you're agreeing to and making postulates off of? Are you the dog that's being wagged and not the tail?
Speaker 3:and that's really a hard question to answer, really, because, like you know, the moment you jump on social, I mean, it's all around us. How do you, how do you avoid it, or how do you reach such a certain space where there's complete understanding around it and you're not affected by it? You know, that's a big thing, that's not a small thing, because it's in our face, 24, seven.
Speaker 1:Well, I think no, that's okay Great.
Speaker 2:Well, I think that there's. There's this beautiful aspect of who we are as beings where we can kind of reach this serenity of being this right and we can kind of be in this world, but not of this world uh, it's kind of how scripture refers to it where it's like you don't have, you can be in the world, but not of it you're not.
Speaker 2:I'm not a part of it and I'm existing and I continue to survive and exist because I have no, you know, other other of that and, and as the world goes by, you know other other of that and, and as the world goes by, I was just talking to one of my spiritual teachers recently and I said, you know, I've postulated I want to live to be at least 118 years old. And he was like, why 118? I said, well, because I wanted to live to see the year 2100. I was born in 1982. I want to live to see the year 2100, which is 118 years.
Speaker 2:And I was like, well, why that? And I said, well, because I'm fascinated with all the stuff that's going to be happening with technology and flying cars and going to different places. You know, whatever the case may be right, I'm just super fascinated by it. And I said, and I've postulated this, and every thought right, and those who know me know me, but every thought that is contrary to that is not a thing, like it's no thing, it's nothing right, it's just an interesting way of surviving, even with a body.
Speaker 2:Because there's always, I guess, this thought that, you know, the body can break down and the body can die and the body gets riddled with all this stuff. And I'm like, yeah, no, that's not me, that's just not my experience. And I've lived this way my entire life, despite, you know, attempts to take me out, despite car accidents, despite diagnosis, despite conversations and everything. I've lived with this viewpoint my entire life and I've now kind of wrapped it up into a whole big, pretty bow of a centenarian life postulate that I want to live, to be 100 plus, and so In a body.
Speaker 1:Let's make make that very clear.
Speaker 2:With a body, right With with this body. I want to live, to be a hundred plus with this body, and yeah, it's just. I don't see the stuff that seems to be contrary to that. In fact, when I pull up my social media, I see stuff on extending your telemeters how do you extend your telemeters so that you can live longer? I see stuff that comes up about how to incorporate certain technologies into your body. I know I'm about that, Jonathan. Don't like that, though Incorporating certain technologies and stuff to extend life using technology and being a Borg.
Speaker 1:But well, I mean, you know they're already, they're making a lot of advances with things that they can do to improve the body's life extension so that you can still move around the messed universe and get things done and you're 100, 125, that type of thing. Truth is, if you weren't on this planet around a dirty sun, and on a dirty planet radioactively. There's a few other smaller factors. Lrh mentioned mentioned this and I can't post this particular quote. I'm sorry but it would take me hours to find. But these bodies tend to last between four and five hundred years in the proper circumstances.
Speaker 2:I got a Honda body.
Speaker 1:Right, 500,000 miles, and it's still going.
Speaker 1:It's still ticking, just change the oil and it keeps on running.
Speaker 1:Come on, so LRH goes on to say that a thetan does not age, and this is very true, and the differentiation that we're trying to make here is that every single one of the people that I take in session who starts to go up the bridge and everything like that, they tend to identify with the body, and the thing that you need to do that LRH suggests is that at some point the person will go exterior in auditing and when they go exterior, they're like I feel I feel really odd and and I just feel like I'm I'm on a roller coaster right at the top and I'm just wow, okay, end of session right there, and that's what lrh says to do.
Speaker 1:When they go exterior and off, right there, and that's what LRH says to do, and they go exterior and off. Now, the reason for this is that exteriorization demonstrates that survival extends beyond the body, but individuals get stuck on the create, survive, destroy, curve and resist change because, well, I don't want to lose my body. I mean, this is this. It's like you know, I own this honda and it's a great honda, and I don't I don't want to get rid of it, but you don't have to get rid of it. We just want you to make the identification that you are not your body right, remember that, remember that movie.
Speaker 2:Dude, where's my car?
Speaker 3:right, you go, you go exterior you dude, where's my car?
Speaker 1:Right. And so what we're doing with auditing is we're trying to shift a person, a being, out of the fixed identifications by changing their postulates, reminding them that the essence of survival basically lies in the being, not the body. And what you see happening as far as your reality on this planet is you're a body, you're a body, you're a body, you're a body, I must survive, you're a body, I must survive, and all the stuff that you see. And we'll get back to what Arthur was saying about how do you handle this pushing in of your anchor points? We talked about that. Was it yesterday that we defined anchor points? I think it was Yep yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yes, the pushing in your anchor points, where you're like I feel great today and you get on Instagram and you're like my God, look what's going on in the world. Oh my God. Look what's going on in the world, oh my God. And then, all of a sudden, you feel a lot smaller because your anchor points have been brought in. Go take a walk, do a locational with someone, have them do a, you know, okay. Look at that tree, thank you. Look at that cloud, thank you. And you can do this yourself as well. You can just go for a walk and look at things near and far away and acknowledge yourself on it, and now your anchor points start to go out and you're having this increase because what you're seeing in this society is a constant pushing in of anchor points to where you feel that all you have to do is survive.
Speaker 1:I need to make more money. I need to make more money. I need to make more money. Hey, jonathan, can you help me make more money? I need to get auditing, I need to make more money or it's. You know I'm miserable, but I have money. I need to be happy so I can enjoy my money and whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on. It's your postulates that you need to change.
Speaker 2:Right. And LRH goes on to say here in the lecture he says now there is a process or two which depends upon living this. You can live a different way and be better off. But you know something's funny those are very limited processes, those are extremely limited. They go, that is to say, to a very limited distance.
Speaker 2:All right, if your wife makes you unhappy, leave her and be happier. I mean, that's environmental processing Doesn't mean the individual is really going to be any better off at all, does it? Doesn't mean the individual is really going to be any better off at all, does it? So it's odd that the business of living this upon itself is a process, unless it is immediately and intimately coupled with thinkingness, which is to say thought itself. And so when we look at life, we're looking at it from this perspective that if I change my outer configuration whether it be my bank account, whether it be my musculature, whether it be my, you know, whatever it can be if I change my environmental experience, then my inner self will be better to be able to be expressed right and there is some therapeutic value in change of environment.
Speaker 2:You know Jonathan's sitting by the beautiful ocean seeing the whales jump up. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1:That makes you feel good, right a non-stimulative environment is always a good thing, you know, having nature and on all of that stuff, but but that is that's like putting it for some, and I'm here not for for therapy. It was just like, hey, this is really theta I. I enjoy having a barbecue, literally where I can barely hear myself, think at high tide as the waves come crashing in, and oh look, there's a whale spouting just beyond the waves.
Speaker 2:So that's amazing that that helps, but continue well, I was to say, and so there is some therapeutic value in changing environment. But the truth of the matter is and even LRA says, it's a limited process and it's limited as in distance. How far will this last? How far will this go? Because the storm comes, or the change of tie happens, or the situation shifts, and now it's like, oh my God, what do I do? Again, right, what we're talking about is getting the being to a place where, no matter where I am, no matter what condition I'm in, I'm able to be sound and solid and stable. In my own experience, I'm able to have serenity right now, and and and to.
Speaker 1:To circle back already. To circle back, your question was what do you do about these influences in your surroundings to prevent yourself from being push buttoned by problem reaction solution that's going on in the media today, with all of the stuff and I mean all the stuff from nepal to utah to, uh, I'm not sure where the incident with the, the girl on the, uh, the stabbing on the subway, and all of this stuff where you know, uh, los angeles or chicago, or now it's Memphis and troops are going to be going into Memphis to clean that town up, and all of this stuff. What can you do? Very simple you can apply, wait for it. I'm going to drop the E word the ethics condition of danger.
Speaker 3:You mean be responsible? Do I have to be?
Speaker 1:have have self. Wait a minute, I'm gonna drop it the s, the s and the d word self-discipline.
Speaker 1:It's too much effort and that's the thing it's sacrilege and we're going to get back, to get back to the the other part of this thing. But the thing is is again, just like we said in the other, the podcast yesterday about present time you have to be responsible for that which restimulates you. You choose to be restimulated. You choose to be restimulated because when you get restimulated by watching that video, by seeing that news report, you are going to make postulates that you would not otherwise make in this physical universe. Okay, because that's what the reactive mind does it reacts. Oh my god, that's a reaction. Okay, so if you apply a danger condition to that and you say you know what, this is going to be hard.
Speaker 1:It's going to be really hard. I'm going to delete Instagram from my phone. That is applying a danger condition. You're bypassing habits and normal routines. Okay, yeah. Adopting firm policy as well.
Speaker 2:That was going to go right to that, or adopt the firm policy that that stuff cannot come on my phone, and so I actually don't even see a lot of that stuff. I don't even see it.
Speaker 1:Right, because you can't. You can't be restimulated by something you choose not to be restimulated by, because the only reason you got restimulated by it is because you chose to be restimulated by it. Delete that app from your phone, if you have to. Don't look at end theta period. Don't look at end theta. Now. I'm not saying you should go hide in a hole and be at the bottom of the tone scale. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what we're saying at all. But the thing is is that you need to get on with the show. Now LRH goes, and that's how you would handle that is, assign it a danger condition. Delete the app, delete Facebook, whatever you need to do, don't watch the evening news, because I'm just telling you oh God, please don't do that.
Speaker 1:Anything that you see in the media and I'm sorry this is almost Ellery says there's no such thing as an absolute, but the fact of the matter is that in the media, all you're going to get is what they want you to know, and that isn't the truth. That is an alter-isness, it's an alteration of reality. Okay, and that's what this whole podcast is about is we're trying to change your reality, okay, your reality. That's the most important thing and if you change your reality by those things that are pushing you around, that shouldn't be pushing you around because they're alter businesses as to what's really going on, because LRH says, in the data evaluators series, the correct why opens the door to a handling Okay. So if you're getting re-stimimulated, the why is stop re-stimulating yourself. Now this brings us to back to the, the lecture go ahead.
Speaker 2:Can I just say this real quick too? And and what's beautiful about what we're saying is is that changing your reality, changing your universe, is the easiest part. It really is. The reason why I think auditing is so beautiful is because, especially that we in independent Scientology work with remote auditing is that you get to come in your office or in your room or whatever, sit at the computer in your PJs, get on the cans and get in session and you get to start changing your reality, changing your universe, that quickly, that easily, and you do it in such a way that when you come out of session and you walk out into the shared universe, the combined universe, the work, a day world, that reality just changed.
Speaker 2:Get this my 2D literally said that the whole relationship with father changed, not because dad became a better person and stopped drinking person and stop drinking right, but because I got in session and got some wins and life then becomes better for it, right? You know and and so I I wanted to make that that little caveat that when we say changing your reality, we're talking about the easiest part, right?
Speaker 2:right and that makes it so much easier for you now that it doesn't require confront, absolutely. Does it require a lot of persistence and push through? Sure it does. Does it require you to deal with some stuff that you haven't dealt with for many, many, many, many moons? Yes, but once you do it, it's the easiest thing that you have ever done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you can do it.
Speaker 3:It's interesting because it doesn't take that long to resolve something that's been overrating you for 20 years, 50 years, 40 years. You spend a couple hours, maybe more than a couple in certain situations, and then it never bothers you again, like for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1:Right. It's just gone, and and that's the thing that that lrh also says is, if they knew it was wrong with them, it wouldn't be wrong with them, it's not it's not money. It's not money. That's the problem that you're trying to address, and we get this, I get. I get this all the time. Fix my wife, please. It's not your wife.
Speaker 1:It's never your wife, and it always ends up that I have to audit the other person. That's the. That's the funny thing is, it's not the wife that needs the fixing, it's the person that's saying that their wife is the problem, not the wife that needs the fixing, it's the person that's saying that their wife is the problem. Think about what I just said to our listeners. Okay, now this comes down to. What we're trying to do in auditing is we're trying to help the preclear disentangle themselves from the universe of others. This is what Quentin just said. Disentangle themselves from the universe of others. This is what quentin just said. Mama's universe, daddy's universe, where another person's postulates dominate, okay. So a preclear must be guided into an auditor's my universe, for example, or quentin's or arthur's, temporarily creating a safe space, which is what we do. Is we? We make a safe space where you're willing to talk to the auditor, you're interested in your own case, all right from which to recover the pc's own postulate power. Daddy's the problem, daddy's the problem. It's never daddy, it's never the wife.
Speaker 1:So, through a process like where is mama safe, for example, in a session with a pre-clear goes through extremes of hostility and destructive impulses, but eventually they reach indifference, okay, and they have a freedom from fixation. And, like we said, it's always terminals, terminals, terminals, other people, other things. They get their attention unfixated from that terminal. And when you change your postulates about that terminal and we were talking about valences yesterday as well Okay, contrary to their fears, the end result isn't a dangerous thing, an antisocial individual, but one more able to love, help and interact sanely, because now you can reach for that person, like in a potential trouble source, a suppressive person or somebody who reminds you of a suppressive person. That's caused you to be somebody else. Now your reality has changed, where you're like oh, it doesn't matter what mom and dad think, because you made postulates about that and you said I can't, I can't go here anymore and you're making me so unhappy. No, no, no, no, no. You are making yourself unhappy.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That's how you change your reality. So that's the social side of things. And to sort of bring this full circle, in the media today, for example, in the media today, for example, you're making postulates based off of some reaction to something that's been created for you to see you follow. This is what's going on, so don't be restimulated by the things and recuse yourself from these things. And again, I'm not saying to stick your head in the sand like an ostrich here in Africa. What I am saying is is that you do not have to be re-stimulated by this stuff if you choose not to be re-stimulated, okay. So in this lecture LRA talks about, basically, the goal of processing is to restore the individual's ability to make effective postulates in your own universe, in your own universe, because everything starts with you. On the first dynamic. The first dynamic is you and or your body, and your survival as a Phaeton is guaranteed. Your body may not survive, but the thing is is that you will. Don't worry about so much.
Speaker 2:Take care of your body, obviously, but get in session yeah, because, because that will take, that will take care of your body. Like that's right, I'm telling you what I know, not what I read out of a book that will take care of your body. Like I'm telling you what I know, not what I read out of a book that will take care of your body. When you, when you get in session and you start to clear some things up like I'm talking about bunions, I'm talking about like physical things that are there and you'd be like, why is this there? And you'd be like, oh, I know why it's there and it is not there Physical things that are there and you're wondering, why is this there? And then you take a look and you see why it's there and then it's not there.
Speaker 1:Right. So, in summary, this lecture, universe, processes and Experience. Basically what LRH is talking about and we'll put the transcript on YouTube again is that the goal of auditing and of processing is restoring your ability to make effective postulates in your own universe, your perception and exteriorization from the body to go. I am a thetan, I have a whole track, I made these decisions and I can change my decisions. Okay is rooted in a lookingness. Okay, it's the opposite of what you think, that it is that we're saying here. There is lookingness, but lookingness means you have to confront what's going on in your decisions. Your postulates, okay, problems of occlusion or your blindness the whole track stem from being trapped in another's universe. Terminals, terminals, terminals, okay. So by systematically guiding you in session into safe universes and out of enslaving ones, you recover your knowingness and your independent causation.
Speaker 3:Wow yeah.
Speaker 1:So the processing that you can get in session aims, basically aims you in the direction of freeing you as a thetan to create, perceive and direct your own existence, basically without being overwhelmed by the postulates of others, make sense. Okay, so the postulates of others are what it is, that you take in and go. Okay, I'm going to agree with that. That's the end of it, right there. So if you don't get re-stimulated, you don't make silly postulates. This is a dangerous environment. Survive, survive, survive. Present time problem I've got to survive, I've got to survive. I've got to survive. I've got to survive, I've got to survive.
Speaker 1:Look what everything is going on. You know if, if, if you were, if you came down here to south africa, for example, and you can do remote auditing all you want from the safeness, comfort of your home in your pajamas, with us, over zoom and a theta meter, or you can come down here and you can. You can sit on in one of the most beautiful places you can ever imagine, where you see dolphins and whales every day, have amazing meals and go in session as much as you can possibly stand and go outside and sit on the beach, find octopus and crabs and all kinds. You can go go out spearfishing, go out snorkeling, whatever, okay and you can be in a theta environment and completely, completely shut yourself off from all of this restimulation that's going on. All of the dramatization, everything you see in the media is dramatization of one thing, the reactive mind of others.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Do you agree with it or do you disagree with it? You make your own reality.
Speaker 2:And do you want to be in their mind? I mean, think about this, right, think about this. If, if you knew somebody was just aberrated and just had the wildest, craziest viewpoints on life, why do I want to be in your mind? Why do I really want to sit there? And what is what's that? What's that saying? Saying, um, he who argues with the fool, who's the bigger fool? You know?
Speaker 1:that's right, it's like.
Speaker 2:It's like the fool, the fool, or the fool that follows him right, I'm not, I don't, I don't want to be a part of that world.
Speaker 3:Uh, wish I could be part of your world no, no thanks I don't agree already sorry, I was off in another world then I was just listening to you guys, so to speak we have a podcast we did yesterday on present time.
Speaker 1:But but you know that's, that's fine, you have to. You have to think about things and go. Oh, okay, but that's the whole point is is that your reality is your created reality? Auditing helps improve that through releasing you from these agreed upon realities to where it's your reality, not something you agreed with with someone or someone's else. Reality, not something you agreed with with someone or someone's else, or somebody is telling put your attention on because you need to survive.
Speaker 1:Dangerous environment, dangerous environment. You can be in the greatest environment of the world and come down here and stay on the beach and have great food, like I said, and have a theta environment, or you can do it from the comfort of your own home. Either way, but you need to feel safe. A PC has to be willing to talk to the auditor and interested in the own case. If we have that, all we need beyond that is a theta meter, a good internet connection, and then we can get you in session and we can allow you this short, brief period of time that you need to change your reality forever. And it happens quickly. The speed of processing is amazing. It doesn't take this long, long, long long time to de-aberate a being. You are a phaeton in a body, are not the body. This whole dramatization on this planet is just that. It is a dramatization of the same dramatizations that have been going on for billions of years. Don't fall for it. That's the real.
Speaker 3:I love how you podcast don't fall for it.
Speaker 1:This isn't the first time this has happened. It won't be the last, but that doesn't need mean that you need to play that game, you don't and and falling prey to it.
Speaker 2:Um, whatever the, the machinations and the tricks and whatever else is going on, falling prey to it only puts you at effect and you keep going lower and lower down the rabbit hole and wondering where's the bottom there?
Speaker 3:isn't one.
Speaker 2:There isn't one right that that they there's such lower and lower and lower depths that society, um, and those that are with this group think this aberrative group think that they're dealing with there's lower and lower depths that they're willing to sink to, that they're going to sink to, and this is our opportunity to be causative and put ourselves in a position where we don't have to go that route, and I welcome you to it.
Speaker 1:Yep Artie anything before we close this out.
Speaker 3:The only way out is through.
Speaker 1:That's right. Complexity in confronting policy letter applies. I'll post it on YouTube. Quentin, make a note of that for me. Would you that which is complex? There's something there you're not confronting. How do I get in session? How do I do this? All right, what is it that is so complex? Oh, it's this, okay, what are you not confronting about that? Yep, so we hope this has been helpful.
Speaker 1:Don't believe what you're seeing and hearing in the media. Decide for yourself what's true, what's not true. Do your own due diligence. There's a huge, deep rabbit hole and LRH has laid a path out to where. It doesn't matter what's going on right now, it's just a dramatization. Get up the bridge and change yourself as a being permanently, permanently by getting in session, understanding the technology. Take some courses. We've got specials that we can get you up the bridge for a mere fraction, a mere fraction of what it would cost in corporate church of Scientology, and we're using the original LRH technology, not altered technology. Boy, there's a lot of it in the COS. So for Quentin and myself and Arthur Madakis namaste and we love you, bye-bye, thank you, thank you, thanks for watching.