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SE11EP39 - Independent Scientology and Willingness to Execute
What if talent isn’t your bottleneck—willingness is? We dig into LRH’s 1957 lecture to unpack a practical, human blueprint: your ability is present, but only shows up when you choose to demonstrate it on the right gradient. From the first honest step to the moment your skills “click,” we map how willingness, awareness, and completion transform potential into performance without burning you out or stringing you along with empty reps.
We explore the difference between desire and willingness, and why that distinction matters when you’re stuck. Desire watches; willingness moves. Through stories—Beethoven composing by vibration, Babe Ruth’s legend, and our own training with TRs—we show how steady gradients keep you from blowing while multiplying wins. We also surface the hidden postulates that quietly cap your results, and explain how auditing helps you make up your mind, replace limiting decisions, and reclaim the freedom to execute. This is not theory for theory’s sake; it’s a method to confront, communicate, and complete so that ability can finally do its job.
You’ll get clear, workable routes to start today: free communication training to build confront without aggression, group processing for immediate support, and a focused timebox—“go clear in a year”—that gives your willingness a container. Expect practical language, candid examples, and steps you can apply in your work, relationships, and creative goals. If you’ve ever thought, “I know I can do this, so why don’t I?” this conversation hands you the missing lever: decide to demonstrate, on gradient, until your results make the case for you.
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All right, all right, all right. Welcome to Scientology Outside of the Church podcast. Uh, this is Quentin Stroud on the line with Arthur Madakis, and we're brought to you by ao-gp.org and college of independent scientology.com. Listen, if you want to get some services or training, please go to the website and message us and we will contact you ASAP. All right, so we're gonna dive into this, and I'm really super excited about this because uh there was a lecture by El Race that I was listening to, and I come across this couple of paragraphs where he goes into talking about ability. All right, and so today we're gonna be talking about willingness to execute. Arthur, how are you doing today?
SPEAKER_00:I'm doing all right, I'm doing all right. It's um it's good to be back home and still adjusting to the weather here, but that's okay.
unknown:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:It's a little colder down there in Australia. I totally get it. Yes, and I and I'm here in Malaysia where it's hot, and I've actually got the aircon on right now, so yeah. Um so we're gonna dive into this because I think that this is a really, really powerful subject, and we're not gonna be before you long, but we're talking about willingness to execute. So I want to read the reference here from LRH. It is taken from the uh 24th of January, 1957, and it is called Auditing Techniques, Altering Cases. So LRH says this he said, techniques, the whole subject of techniques, as I told you yesterday, breaks down into a gradient scale, the reality of which is most important for a homo sap at the having this scale level, the tolerance type of technique, to increase his willingness, to increase his willingness to be, do, have, confront, create his willingness to, there's no doubt about his ability to.
SPEAKER_00:So let's go back a little bit, right? So we've got three elements so far gradient, ability, and willingness, right? Yes, and so just those three things right there, because how often do we jump straight into a higher gradient thinking we have the ability, and then we lose our willingness? The willingness is there. Um, and so what I find interesting about the way LRH puts his words together, like it's so hard to mess it up, but you've also got to be so so attentive to what he's actually saying. That's right. Because those three words, just in that paragraph, two paragraphs that you read out, there's so much in those two paragraphs.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and if you think about it, uh maybe even as a child, like you the children have the willingness to pretty much do anything, right? They'll jump off a tree or they'll you know think they can fly or whatever. I remember I literally, when I saw Mary Poppins, I literally would jump off the top of my house with an umbrella to see if I can float.
SPEAKER_00:And then and then you realize with such an impact that you uh took on a very steep gradient.
SPEAKER_02:Right. This is this is things, and and so so if we're in independent Scientology, whether it be through auditing, whether it be through running drills, we just did the pro TRs and the professional uh drills, well we you know, allowing you to communicate effectively. What we're not what we're doing is you're not practicing. I think this is really good. You're not practicing, you're actually regaining the willingness to demonstrate the ability to have your TRs in, to confront, to communicate, to acknowledge, to you know, to get a person to continue to talk, you know, so forth and so on. You're actually demonstrating the ability because it's already been there.
SPEAKER_00:And ability is an interesting word. So, what is ability? What does ability mean?
SPEAKER_02:Let's clear that. Let's see. Ability is defined as possession of the means or skills to do something, possession of the means or skills to do something. And then what about um willingness? And willingness is let's see. Willingness is the quality or state of being prepared and ready to do something.
SPEAKER_00:Isn't it interesting those two words correlate, don't they?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because you have to so you have to have the means and skills and be prepared and ready to do it.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And I like how you brought out that that that even that looks like a gradient, right? So uh whether whether it's too steep a gradient and you just kind of jump off the house, or it's what seems like a lower gradient, and you have to kind of gradually increase your willingness to demonstrate that ability. So I think that's interesting that you pointed that out.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because like even to increase your ability requires a lot of awareness around where you're actually at and a sense of honesty as well. Um, because if you're trying to achieve something, you you have the willingness and you have the drive and you believe you have the ability, but then once you get into it, then you realize maybe you don't have the ability. Um and and I think what's really interesting how he's how he's put it out with a gradient aspect as well. Like if you could be honest honest enough with yourself, you won't blow at that point. Um, because you'll actually recognize, okay, I've gone too steep a gradient here, let's go back, and your willingness will not fade. Your willingness will still be there, but now it's a matter of um creating more ability, refining your ability, learning your ability to get to that point. Yeah um it's that's really interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I it what comes to mind, even as you were just saying that, is um is when Mozart, I think Mozart was deaf, right? And was it Mozart that was deaf? Beethoven, Beethoven, Beethoven was deaf. Yes, all right. Beethoven was deaf. And from what I remember, this was years ago in school, he would have to put his ear to the floor and feel each note. He would have to feel the vibration of each note, and he was able to create amazing music that way, right? And so the ability was there, it had nothing to do with physiology, had nothing to do with the the eardrums or whatever, whatever. The ability was there because the whoo because the willingness was there.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02:I like that. I like that the ability, the ability was always there, it was the willingness to demonstrate it as LRH said. So I want to finish reading this particular reference because he said he says then um you increase instead their ability to demonstrate their ability. The ability is always there, but something happens to the ability to demonstrate it. See, that's a little bit slippy, but it's for sure the route. And he gives an example, he says, now uh you have to know that, or you will go on trying to increase somebody's ability directly, and you will think then if he practices long enough at balancing a ball on the end of his nose, he'll be able to balance a handball on the end of his nose. And there are more sports coaches throughout the world who believe this implicitly, who continue to have stinking teams. If he just bats the ball long enough, he will eventually bat the ball. I call to your attention that Babe Ruth had more or less the same number of home runs at the end of his career as at the beginning. Quantity of home runs had nothing uh much to do with his ability. Well, uh, what's that all this all about? Every other teammate he ever had was as able to bat home runs as Ruth, but not as willing to demonstrate it. That's about the whole score. And when you understand that it is the willingness to execute the ability which is at fault, and not the ability, you will stop pulling the same kind of boo-boo that is pulled by all these coaches. So, LRH, so I want you to note that whatever it is that you're seeking to accomplish, whatever it is that you're seeking to do, the ability as a being, as a Thetan, the ability is there. It is the willingness to execute or demonstrate that ability that's at fault for LRH. And so as we get into these uh training routines that we do in independent Scientology, as we get into uh the conversations and the uh and auditing, as we go into training on the College of Independent Scientology, all of these things are not to give you more ability, you're gonna be super power, you know. No, the ability is always there, whatever it is. So, right now, this is just come this is for me. I can sing, and I feel good about knowing that I feel good about knowing that I can sing now. My willingness to demonstrate that effectively, I'm over.
SPEAKER_00:But it's a very powerful concept. Um, and like like there are so many things running through my mind around this concept right now, um, because it gives a whole new edge on the word willingness as well. Um, because you know, how often have you found yourself trying to achieve something and you just feel like you're beating a dead horse? Um and then do you practice? Do you like like what is that that pivotal moment when your ability comes through? Or is it a matter of recognizing what your actual ability is that you can put willingness towards? Because there are so many things we can do in this world, you know, so many of us can change a car tire, so many of us can drive on the same road as you know, millions of other people, right? So many of us can cook, so many of us can do so many things, but then when it comes to say uh Babe Ruth, um, you know, surrounded by by so many other players, so many other sports professionals, what is it that actually made him stand out above the rest? You know, and and was it as LRH says, his willingness to to make that happen?
SPEAKER_02:Willingness to execute it, yeah. And and I think that and I think that as we're listening to this podcast and and and talking about this, you know, look over your life and look over areas where you want to demonstrate in a higher in a higher way, in a greater way, right? You want to demonstrate better, uh, whether it be financially, whether it be relationally, whether it be physically, like your body presentation, like you wanna you want to demonstrate better, greater, more, and yet it's not the ability that's missing. The ability is always there, it's the willingness to demonstrate that I think it's at fault. Um, and so what what we're gonna do is we're gonna dive deeper into how we start to increase that willingness, right? Because what as we're at get this, as we're increasing our uh awareness level, right? As we increase our awareness level, which is if you look at the um the grade chart, right up the middle of the grade chart, on the left hand side is the uh the technical side or the training side, and on the right hand side is uh auditing or the processing side. So wherever you are on the grade chart, wherever you are on the on the bridge, as you increase up the bridge, so too does your ability or your awareness, should I say, of who you are, your awareness of your ability, your awareness of what you can be, do. How did he say it? Let me go look up to it. He says, um, he says, to increase his willingness, to increase his willingness to be, do, have, confront, create, his willingness to, and all of that is already there in you. It's just increasing your willingness to be, to do, to have, to confront, to create. This is so good.
SPEAKER_00:And it it it actually makes me really reflect on while we're practicing the TRs, um, because there were so many how do I say it? Like there were so many different levels going through the TRs, um, and like so many phases that we had to confront to get to a certain point. And and it's funny how he says it as far as the ability goes, because right at the end of it, you recognize that you do have the ability. And and it's kind of funny because we chased the ability initially to be like, I need to be this way, right? It's like our mindset where it's just like I need to perform in this way, right? But then when the ability sets in, it's just so natural, and it's just like, oh, that's it. Yeah, it's it's so easy, and you got it, it's so easy, yeah. Um, because so many times throughout that, I wanted to blow. Like, how many times did I get cranky or I'm like jam this and blah blah blah. But that was only me confronting aspects of me that were preventing my ability. My willingness was there, um, and the ability was there somewhere. I just couldn't see it at that time until I saw it, and then I'm like, holy crap, it's really that easy. Yeah, it's really that easy.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know, and and and and we look at um whether it be actors or singers or people who uh what we would say have a natural talent. That's a that's a fair, that's a fair word, right? A fair assessment. Yeah, people who have a n seem seemingly have a natural talent. I want to look up the definition of talent, um natural aptitude or skill. Okay, yeah. So so people who have a natural talent, we look at them and they they seem to make it so easy, whether it be Denzel Washington. Just uh just today we lost Diane Keaton, Diane Keaton, uh, which is a famous American actor, uh actress. She uh passed away today, unfortunately. But amazing actress, absolutely amazing. Uh, she was in movies like Father of the Bride and Um First Wives Club, which is one of my favorites, First Wives Club. But she's absolutely amazing actress, and they make it seem so easy, right? And and so there's this idea that if I don't have the natural skill, what did it say? Natural aptitude or skill, talent. If I don't have the natural aptitude or skill as a talent, then it's something I just can't do. That's the thought. The thought is if if if I don't have this natural aptitude that just came innately with this lifetime, then I just can't do that this lifetime. Well, I would beg to differ, and I would go on to say a little bit differently that even if it's not a natural skill or a natural aptitude, that does not mean the skill or the aptitude is not there for you, is not there with you always, is how LR says it. It's always there, it doesn't mean it's not always there, it just might not be your natural or innate way of of expressing you didn't you didn't have that willingness from earlier on. And I know let me tell y'all something. When I come out with my album, I'm like because I will I'm I can see you doing Christmas songs. I'm gonna be in somebody's studio, I'm telling you now, because I already because Lrh said I could do it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so so we we we think that if we don't have that natural skill or talent, that is something that is just not meant for me, or it's just not meant for me to um aspire to or accomplish or do. What I would say is is that if the desire is there, right? If the desire is there, then I think uh we just talked about the CDEI scale, C D E I, curious desire, enforced, uh inhibited. And and it there's there's more above and more below, but just if the desire is there, that's still an uptone kind of way of viewing the matter, right? Because at least there's a there's a desire, there's a mild interest or a high interest in doing something. So if you want to be a millionaire, I don't know who I'm talking to because oh boy, if you want if you want to not have to worry about money, and if you want to be a millionaire and the desire is there, it might not be a natural skill or aptitude, it might not be something that your grandmama, dad, and them and them and all pass down to you. It might not be something that just came with this body expression, and yet the skill is available to you if you choose it.
SPEAKER_00:If you have the willingness, because desire and willingness are two different things. That's good, but it's one thing to do it's one thing to desire something because desire is like an observer's point. You're not actually doing. That's right, you know what I mean. Um, it's not until you bring the willingness in, recognize where you sit on that gradient to get to that goal at the end. Um I mean, uh the desire can create a willingness force a hundred percent. You know what I mean? But only only if you add the willingness to that desire. You know, so Eve Eve desired desired the fruit from the forbidden tree, right? But she also had the willingness to take from it. To go get it, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Right, exactly. So we because with the with the I'm sorry, go ahead, finish your flow.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, I didn't Yeah, like she actually had to take action, you know what I mean? She had to turn her desire into physical movement, into motion, um, into messed universe, you know what I mean? Because that desire is not in the messed universe, it's in your own mind universe, and it's not until you put willingness to it, now you can start creating that. Now you can start learning the skills you need to learn. Now you can start to look at the things that are preventing you. Um, because like you say, we're singing, and singing is a really good example because we all have a voice. Great, and you know, some voices are more desirable than others, but it doesn't mean all voices can't be desirable. Um, I've been in circles before where we've done meditations and we've done singing or chanting, and people that have never sung in their life, it just makes this incredible, incredible powerhouse, you know, every unique voice. So that says to me, yes, everybody can sing if they have the willingness to open their mouth and let sound come out of it.
SPEAKER_02:Right. In this lecture, LRH goes on to say that he says, How about a schoolboy? How about a schoolboy who has been going along all right, and one morning he says, I am sick, mama. I cannot go to school. What happened? He's unwilling to be a schoolboy. See, he's unwilling to. Now, uh, how about his ability to learn arithmetic? Well, his ability to learn arithmetic was met up with an unwillingness to learn arithmetic. See, that's very, very much to the point. And he goes on to talk about what deteriorates in the individual. It is something so easily monitored by an auditor that it'll rather frighten him one day or another to find out that he can turn up or turn down uh without the power of choice of the preclear. So many abilities on the pre-clear that the preclear himself is terrified. You can do this. So it's interesting. As a skilled auditor, can turn up or turn down one's ability, uh, so many abilities on the preclear. Again, the abilities are always there. It's just a matter of being able to help him, the him or her, the the pre-clear, to decide that there is a willingness to show that up, right? To to demonstrate it. It says, and the preclear will actually have an awful hard time getting his own willingness to do such a thing straightened out. And so we we go through life and we have a hard time trying to figure out I know I want to do this, I know I want to do this, I know I want to do this, but having a hard time trying to straighten it out, right? And so this is what we run into because that that something has deteriorated our willingness to demonstrate the abilities that we desire to demonstrate.
SPEAKER_00:And then going through the processing, you start to see where that deterioration actually sits, and then you start to recognize that deterioration, and then you're like, oh why am I even bothering with that?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, why am I literally? You're just giving up you're just going to apathy on it.
SPEAKER_00:100%. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah, it's it's go ahead. It's really quite incredible the the creation of independent Scientology, like yeah, the things that it can bring out in you that were already there. Yeah, like it's already there, like it's it's the most um ironic thing. Like it there's such an ironic aspect to this because we all have the ability to do, yeah, whatever that is, like whatever that is, like it's incredible. Be doing have.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And so if anybody even vaguely kind of follows this route, right? And I and I'll say this there are those that desire it, there are those that uh like I know I need to be doing something, I know I need to be in session, I know I need to be on course, right? There's there's those that know they need to do this, and then there's those that are willing to do, right? Which willingness again is about readiness and commitment to take action. And so you can you can got kind of get the desire that I oh I I need to be on course. Uh I want to I want to get in session, I want to get some auditing done, I want to get some some processing. And if that if that's there, where we what do we need to do to increase the willingness to get you there, right? The willingness to get you in session, the willingness to get you to tap in. Because because even even understanding that there's a plethora of auditing techniques, there's a plethora of processes, there's even just just group processing, right? And what we're gonna be doing is releasing some group processing to um those that are in the college of independent Scientology. So if you so it just so you know, if you're not already in the College of Independent Scientology, go on to College of Independent Scientology.com and register and create your account. What we're gonna start doing is those people who are active, those people who are tapped in, those people who are, you know, when you go in, create your account and just make one little post. Hey guys, I'm here. Hey guys, I'm here. Say whatever. And what we're gonna do is we're gonna make it available where you can just start getting some group processing, you can start getting some help like immediately, right? Um, for those that are wanting to be a part of the inner circle and do what we're trying to do. The idea here is that you need that there's a plethora of auditing techniques that you can take advantage of and processing techniques that you can start doing right away. And if you start putting these things into effect, to whatever degree your willingness, your willingness increases, what comes out of that? What benefit? You don't you have no idea. What is uh John say all the time? Larry says the hardest thing, the hardest thing to spot is a missingness. If you don't even know that you can do it, what happens when that that door turns on, or the door opens up and the light turns on, and you're able to do something that you never thought you could do before, like be happy, right? Yeah, like be emotionally at peace, like yeah, like pull in for me a hundred and six thousand dollar one one check from one meeting, meeting took just under an hour, a hundred and six thousand dollar check. The guy slid it across the table just like that. The check. So I never thought I could do it, right? And yet the ability is always there, it's the willingness to execute or the willingness to demonstrate your ability that we're running up against.
SPEAKER_00:And at the moment you have a taste of your first win like that will get you moving to more wins. Um, because you and it's not until you experience it, it's not until you have it, it's not until you've done it that you're like, holy crap! Like, what have I been waiting for? What have I been waiting for? And then you have one win, and then you just want to chase more after that because now you know you have the ability to win. Now you know you have the ability to make gains. Now you know you have the ability to be you, and like that's what's so incredible about these processes because as you go through, you start to recognize who you actually are versus who you thought you were, which is a whole bunch of nonsense, just politely.
SPEAKER_02:No offense. The the you that you are right now is a bunch of nonsense because there is a you that you are, are like really are that is so much greater.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it it really sorts out the desire versus the ability, because we desire to be a certain way, but then recognizing that you have ability, dude, you you just you latch onto it, and and that's where you really start moving. When you recognize you have ability towards something, then you're unstoppable. It's one thing to desire to be a singer, but your ability might be uh working with accounts, for example. You might be incredible at accounts, and that will bring you more wealth than say perhaps your singing skill. But it's not until you know and you can separate your desire, your perspective on what you think your fantasy world is versus your real world, whatever that is, and it can literally be anything. Um, but if you can't see it, then you won't have any willingness towards it.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. You you won't you won't even if if you never even think you can, you'll never even try. And that goes for getting started, that goes for building the life that you desire, that goes for building the relationships and the body that you desire, that goes for having the things that you want to have. All of the if you never even think you can, you'll never try. Um, and LRA says here in the he continues on here in the lecture. He says, Um, okay. Let's see, he says, but on anybody that will follow them even vaguely, this phenomena of brilliance and perception and so on, in the creation of pictures, I assure you, will occur. Pretty long bow for me, bow for me uh to be throwing in your direction. Of course, you're immediately monitoring postulates. This is interesting. So, what he's talking about when he's talking about this ability or willingness to execute your ability, right? He says, of course, you're immediately monitoring postulates, you're making him make up his mind. Bang! See, very direct. You're making him make up his mind, and he'll do it with that result. And so that's what auditing allows you to do. It makes you make up your mind. Nobody's telling you how to feel, nobody's telling you what to think, nobody's telling you evaluating for you with proper auditing, with uh uh uh what we do here in independent Scientology, you're making him make up his mind very direct. Bam! What's the postulate? And when you spot it, I'm telling you what I know, not what I read out of a book. Okay, when you're in session and you're on the chaos, and you spot that I've been having this literally, I had a stupid postulate that a postulate that husbands beat. That was a postulate, husbands beat your ass, and that's what they do, and many times has it been done, okay, and yet I had to go back and handle that erroneous thought, right? I had to handle that postulate, and I had to release it and move on from that, and and then get this, and create a new postulate for how to be and have a better 2D, right? And what ends up happening is you start to create a better experience all the way around, and you never knew it was even there. I didn't know that was there, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, it's it's really quite quite incredible what actually lies underneath. And it's not until you see it and you recognize it that you're just like, wow, that is just mind blowing. And not only that, the moment, as you say, you know, you create a postulate, that becomes your your new magnetism. That becomes your new attractive attraction, yeah. Yeah. You know, like if as you said, if you have that kind of postulate inside of your inside of your being, then it's obvious, it's a no-brainer, um, what you're going to bring into your life. Yeah. Just that, like, it's it's so simple in nature, really, isn't it? Like it's it's so simply stupid, but then at the same time, like to leave through all that mess and all that gunk. Um it's a lot of confront. And even that, it is a lot of confront, but but it's it actually doesn't take long to get through either. Which which is you know, you can do it in this life. You don't have to wait till the next life. You don't have to pause and be like, oh, you know, I'm I'm stuck in this life, I'll just wait till the next life. You know, the next one will be better. I learned my lessons this life. You know, you're sitting on your hands with those kinds of um kinds of thoughts.
SPEAKER_02:Um and so much apathy.
SPEAKER_00:And and it is apathy. Yeah, you've given up before you've even started.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. You know, and and and not only going clear, for example, in this lifetime, like uh we were working on this idea called uh go clear in a year. Go clear in a year, and it's like give yourself 365 days, give yourself that that um that designated time because time is just a consideration, right? Give yourself that designated time, and it could be sooner than that, right? It could be sooner than that. It's like you never know when you get that clear cog and you're just like boom, yes, I'm ready, right? Um, but go clear in a year is kind of giving yourself the permission to be willing to do the work, willing to go in and and deal with those engrams and those postures and that stuff. I remember back when I was doing just co-auditing, book one co-auditing, and we would rent it, and we were doing we did over 400 hours, over 400 hours of of book one co-auditing because we were that willing and dedicated to execute this. This is something. I mean, just looking at dianetics, this is something, and I want to see what something can come out of this, you know what I mean? Looking at being clear, that's something. I want to see what something clear has, and then now being OT myself, like I I want to see what OT got, you know, and so it's the it's the willingness to execute, yeah, the willingness to become that which I know myself to be is so powerful. So we got about a few more minutes left, and uh, I just wanted to just encourage each of you to go ahead and go on the college, uh, college of independent scientology.com, register and get a get your own account, put a post so that we know that you're a real person and not like a a robot or something. And then um, if there's anything that you need, anything that you like, I gotta get through this, I gotta break my own walls down. Please, please, please reach out to us, comment down below, let us know, and and we'll support you in that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and look, the free courses on there will give you gains. Um, you just need to see it through, you know what I mean? So um, because quite often the confront aspect can be quite scary, and so see it through to completion, and then you'll get your EP, you'll get an end phenomena, then you'll recognize your ability, then you'll recognize the power of this tech. And and it's so simple in nature as well, like you you really can't mess it up. The only way you'll mess it up is just by not doing it. But yeah, that's the only thing that will actually mess it up is starting and not completing it. Um, you know, even I mean, sure, I did the pro TRs course, but you can do those TRs in just the free communication course, you know, and the the things those TRs have brought into my life, the level of confront I now have, and I'm not talking aggressive confront, I'm talking the ability to be able to say how I feel and what I'm thinking appropriately, not inappropriately, or not with fear, or not with this underlying emotion where my stomach's turning and how do I handle this? I just want to bang. Yeah, you don't need to do any of that. Um, like and if anybody's curious, I highly recommend just start with a concourse, a communication course start there, yeah, yeah, and then get in touch so we can get you through the training routines, so we can help you through the TRs and just really smash it out.
SPEAKER_02:Um and let me tell you something. And Arthur, he's not lying when he said what he just said because he came at me recently. He came not but not in a not in an aggressive way. It was a great, it was a great communication that he originated, and I totally duplicated him, totally understood what was going on, and was able to respond, and it was pretty long-lengthy response, but I was able to really respond and address you know what was going on, what needed to be communicated, and it was totally, in my opinion, totally as is the whole matter, and things immediately shot back up toe, you know, and it was no issue, it was no breakdown and fighting and bickering and catty and da-da-da. You know how the stuff that people run into in the in the today's world, it's just none of that. So, this is this is some good stuff, guys. And so, anyway, I appreciate you guys for tapping in to this. Um, on behalf of AOHEN GP.org, uh Jonathan Burke, and as executive director, uh the College of Independent, uh College of Independent Scientology.com, Arthur Medakis, and myself, Gwynn Stroud. I welcome you into all this amazing abilities that you are and that you have. And now we're gonna help you execute it and demonstrate it more properly. Anyway, love you guys so much. Thank you, Namaste, and goodbye. Bye bye.