Are things getting better or worse? James and Barry talk about a couple of books they're reading which take differing views: Factfulness by Hans Rosling, and Idols For Destruction by Herbert Schlossberg. There's also stuff about social justice, Spinal Tap, and once again they use the phrase, "But that's for another podcast."
Factfulness by Hans Rosling
Idols For Destruction by Herbert Schlossberg
Barry's new podcast, Simply Put
James' show A Turbulent Priest
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