Episode 162 KAYLA KILAULANI ( Hawaii news now )

What happens when a lifelong passion is suddenly put on hold? In this deeply personal conversation, we journey alongside a former collegiate volleyball player Kayla Kilaulani "KK" whose devastating ACL and MCL tear forced her to reimagine her identity beyond the court. Her story reveals the remarkable resilience that athletes develop and how those qualities translate to unexpected career paths.

The conversation takes us through KK's extraordinary childhood battle with meningitis at age 11—a disease that temporarily robbed her of basic functions like walking and talking—and how the experience of having to relearn everything shaped her approach to future challenges. This foundation of resilience would later serve her when transitioning from competitive volleyball to a thriving career in television production.

We explore the fascinating world of broadcast media through her experiences at Hawaii News Now, where she quickly advanced from curious visitor to skilled Technical Media Producer. Her detailed explanation of directing live newscasts offers rare behind-the-scenes insights into what happens in the control room during broadcasts. Most exciting is her role in developing a new high school sports broadcasting program that showcases student-athletes from underrepresented Hawaiian islands.

Throughout our discussion, powerful themes emerge about embracing change, finding strength in vulnerability, and the critical importance of being present in the moment. Her perspective on balancing ambition with well-being and her thoughtful critique of social media's impact on authentic experiences offer wisdom that transcends sports and broadcasting.

Whether you're facing a career transition, recovering from setback, or simply looking for inspiration to take more initiative in your life, this conversation reminds us that our greatest challenges often reveal unexpected paths forward. Listen now to discover how the mindset of an athlete can transform any obstacle into opportunity.

Transcript

SPEAKER_07 1:04

Episode airs will have another win and will be four and all because you guys can do it. I think the team is good. I I know both of us got injured. I hope he's gonna be alright. I just read what in one tear, so that's a good sign. That's a good sign, yeah. Yeah, it's too close.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

We need it, we need a bigger spread.

SPEAKER_07 1:28

So yeah, yeah. Speaking of tears, how's your knee? Ooh, good question.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

Um, so I just had my six-month post op. It was in ACL and MCL tear. So it was a double full tear, double surgery and one surgery. Um, I tore it in November. Funny enough, I I tore it when I played women's indoor, which I barely do. I always play like men's grass or men's indoor or men's beach. Because I just steered away into the men's competition. It's more advanced. I like a better, fast-paced, harder hitting. So the one time I decided to do women's, boom, tourist. Um so that was November, and I didn't have surgery till March. So I went about three, four months, yeah, walking on it. I mean, it was fine. Doctor said I was fine to do it, but with scheduling or had to wait four months. So six months pulled up. I am healing pretty well. Now it's at the point where okay, you're fully healed, but you're completely weak. You have no muscle. So I'm I'm not prone to injuring it again right now unless I don't strengthen it. So now is the time I have to build the muscle back. It's safe enough where I can do squats with waist and all that. But I did light jogging and it's a little scary, but not back in the court yet. So maybe four months from now, I'll be full recovery.

SPEAKER_07 3:11

Okay. I got a bunch of questions about uh that injury. Did you know it was it was met like did you hear a pop? Did it did you know it was like oh oh no?

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Absolutely. So the play was I I was on the front right side and I did a back five, and then once I landed, because you usually land on your left foot as a right hand hitter. Once I landed, I literally felt my knee go out of place and back in place. Oh and I I felt it and I heard it, and also my team my teammates heard it. Oh, so yeah, they heard it. So once I like landed, they heard the cracks and like and then it went back into place and I just fell and I was like, Brah, what the heck is this? And then you know, because you can you can walk on it after, it just feels like loose. But then once once I started to like walk off the court, I'm like, okay, it's gonna crack again. Like, I better not. But it's it's it wasn't painful, like the crack itself wasn't painful, it just felt like a like you're cracking your back, you know, it doesn't hurt, you just know it's out of place. And then I never had an injury before, never had a cast, never broke a bone, never had surgery. So the first thing I thought was, oh my god, I can't play for another year. But that's every athlete's like fear is like not being able to get back right away and recover fast enough. Yeah, and I was like, damn, there goes the love of my life for the next year.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

That's it. So yeah, felt it, heard it, other people heard it.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

So and I have it on video too. Oh, really? Yeah, you could see it, you could see it, my need like pop inwards and then back out. Oh I know, I don't know if I want to watch it again, but I'll send it to you.

SPEAKER_07 5:05

Yeah, I'll I'll put over. I don't know if I want to see that yeah. I'll I'll take it though. But that's such an insane injury, and and I always like I don't know a lot of people that have had it. And uh as a football fan, I'm always like wonder how it feels or looks, or like I I could tell it's yeah, and and mentally like you already knew it was like oh it's tore, like it's over, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

And that's that's the thing I was worried about because I didn't go to the ER till the day after. So funny enough, like that volleyball game was like the like the second date for me and my boyfriend. And so it's his second time seeing me, right? And so after that, I was like, you know what, F this, like the Niners game is going on right now, like let's go to Mai Pies. So we went to Mai Pies, spent the oh, the whole night at Mai Pies, got home at like probably 11 o'clock, closed out the bar. And it was a Sunday too. Like I had work the next morning, and then once I woke up, I like my knee blew up. Oh, and it yeah, it blew up, and then I couldn't even I couldn't even like bend it, like the slightest bend or the flex of my foot, I felt it. Oh so it's an injury that comes the day after, like the pain comes after. And so then I went ER and they did an X-ray, they're like, So you tore your ACL completely. I was like, okay, great.

SPEAKER_07 6:41

And you're meniscus, so and MCL, so it was it was a lot. That's crazy. So uh it's a power two, you know. Yeah, or I I would assume like you're hoping I'm gonna sleep it off and be good in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Yeah, yeah, that's how it was. Because I was like, nah, I never broke a bone before. I'm strong, you know, I drink a lot of milk, I get plenty of calcium, I'm good. No, no, wasn't the case.

SPEAKER_07 7:04

That's crazy. Um so you're back to rehabbing, and you like you said, it usually does take about a year to where you can be fully active and yeah, like so.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

It's what a just a gradual strengthening and yeah, so so I was in a straight leg brace for about a month afterwards. So no, no hyperextension, no whatever the other word is for straight months. So you could just imagine like not being able to bend your knee, like the pain it causes the rest of your body. So that was the first month, I think maybe two another month later is when I could start bending it, but there's there's so many steps. Like you have to sleep with the brace on, but then throughout the day you can you can unlock the brace. Oh and you can only yeah, because there's like there's a degree measurement, so you can only keep it like okay, you're at week six, you can only bend like 75 degrees, okay. Week seven, you can do 80 degrees, you know. So there's gradual degrees where you can bend it, but just push yourself, but not too much where you break it again, yeah. You know, so it's it's it's hard to tell because like when you're an athlete, you kind of just like don't care. Like you you just power through the pain and you just you know what, like I can handle it. So with this one, I couldn't do that. I had to be delicate, I had to treat it like it was a child and I couldn't overwork it.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Yeah. So about three months in, then I then I could completely have the brace off. Um, but I'm still not at the point where I can sit on my knee. So you know, like when you sit down on like the back of your foot and you have your legs under you, it's still not fully there yet. Um, and that could just be because scar tissue or it's just not used to. But at six months, um pretty active.

SPEAKER_07 9:12

So that's good.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Now now I feel normal. I think at night month nine is when you can do normal exercise, but they told me wait another three months, so a year late, a whole year after surgery in order to do intense sports.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

So I was like, okay, that makes sense. Like if I am doing crazy stuff rather than just taking a jog every day, it might take a little longer. I'm fine with that. But for sure, like the mental um adjustment I had to make because keep in mind prior to this, I was playing volleyball like three, four times a week for a whole year. Like I got back into it heavy, and so to like lose that part of me, like that past year, playing volleyball again is like made is what made me happy. It made me whole.

SPEAKER_03 10:04

Yeah.

Overcoming Childhood Meningitis

SPEAKER_00 10:04

So like to lose that in just one second and to just live the rest of your life stuck at home, like it does something to you, you know, like you're missing out on what makes you happy, what fulfills you, and so it was then I had to learn new things that would make me happy that I can do at home. So what was craft? Oh, really? Yeah, so like I'm I'm really into scrap looking now, and this cricket that I got, girl, she she do it all.

SPEAKER_07 10:35

The cricket, yeah. My mom had one of those things.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

She's yeah, yeah, it's addicting.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

So yeah, so I think craft, I started reading more. Um I guarantee subscribe to all movie subscriptions, and I can watch anything. I swear I've watched it all. Um, and then I have a dog too, so we just hang out. But it was a big adjustment, and I would catch myself like crying sometimes. Like, I just don't feel like myself, you know. When you lose that, it does it does take a lot on you. So yeah, it's a hard it's a hard one to go through.

unknown 11:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:12

Do you think like once uh you get the all clear, you're gonna immerse yourself back into oh absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

I'm I'm itching right now. Like the I'm itching right now to just grab a ball and just start going on a fan and hitting people in the face, I'm ready. I I you know and no knee job, I'll just do it standing down.

SPEAKER_07 11:32

Exactly. I appreciate you talking about it. I know it's not like something that it's like, oh yeah. I know what to ask you. How do they reattach the ligaments?

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Oh, so I did a knee graph. Oh there's different types of graph that you can do. Um, I think there's one that's called a quadra quad graph. So they take pieces of like your quad, your muscle, and then they can use that to attach the ligaments again. But with that, it's a way quicker recovery, but you're more prone to pull your quad later on in the future. And I was like, ooh, volleyball is all quad. Like that's a scary one. If if I didn't play sports, I'd probably choose that one because it's like a one-month recovery. But the one that I chose was the one that kind of everybody in volleyball chooses. It's just the knee graph. So they take other parts of your knee and then use that to tie and sew everything in. Yeah. So there's different options. I think there's a couple more, but they were just not meant for athletes, and that's why this one is so long. It's the longest recovery, but it's the best long-term solution.

SPEAKER_07 12:42

Yeah. That's good.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

So yeah.

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SPEAKER_00 14:17

Okay, so I started playing at 10 years old. And I didn't want to in the beginning, but my dad being who he is, he forced me to. You know, every local dad, they forced you to play sports, so I did it. Granted, I was also the first daughter, so he treated me like a son because he wanted a boy. Um so I was forced into volleyball at 10, but I learned to love it. And then I actually at 11, I got uh meningitis. So if you don't know what meningitis is, there's two types: there's viral meningitis and bacterial meningitis. So it's a brain tissue eating like parasite. So, like one vacation, we were up in Vegas, and the last day leaving Vegas, I was like throwing up. I couldn't drink water, I couldn't drink Gatorade, I couldn't eat anything. From leaving the hotel to landing in Hawaii, I was just constantly throwing up and took me to the ER. They said I just have a stomach flu. Like, okay, week later, I'm still throwing up. I've already lost like 15 pounds by this point within a week. And then went back again. They're like, oh, she has meningitis. And I was in the hospital for about a month at seventh grade. Yeah, so 11 years old, seventh grade, in the hospital for about a month, and then finally got to healing. It's it's it's just it's just a parasite that just eats away. It's your brain tissue. So it's crazy to think that like something is eating my brain while this is going on. Um so it took me about maybe three to four months to recover. But within those three to four months, I lost a lot of long-term memory. Which means, yeah, so which means that about month three, I woke up one day and I was like, like, where am I? Like, I thought it was just in Vegas.

SPEAKER_03 16:25

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

So the entire like sickness, I had lost a lot of long-term memory and a lot of muscle memory. So I couldn't even walk. I couldn't walk, I couldn't talk. I used to be drooling, um, I couldn't feed myself, I couldn't keep my neck up. It was like I was a child again.

SPEAKER_03 16:44

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

So, yeah, so because like I had meningitis and I had lost a lot of brain tissues, I lost a lot of muscle memory and actual memory. Like, there's a lot of things from my childhood that I don't remember because of it. So, with it, so for those six months after, and this is like a year after starting club volleyball, six months after I had to relearn how to write, I had to relearn my ABCs, relearn how to walk, relearn how to talk. So, for that, my year 11, I was like a brand new person. Like I had to relearn everything in my life. And then once I hit 12, then I got back into it. Then I was ready to play. Um, so that's what, maybe like halfway through seventh grade, beginning at eighth grade. Played Wahawa, played Laluhua Bar City from freshman to seniors. Oh, nice. But the only club that I played for was Miller Lani. So MVC. Okay. Um, and my coach was Coach David, and he was he ran the program. So from 10 years old, he still stuck with me when I had that meningitis. I would still come show up, but I would be like hanging over side, just staring, drooling on the side, but I stuck with it. So he was there. Yeah, I was there, I was there, I was present, playing at 12. And the thing was our team, we had a mix of girls from different schools: Kamehameha, Punahou, Iolani, Marinel, Leluhua, and Milalani.

SPEAKER_07 18:20

It was like an all-star team then.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Yeah, so and so and we grew up, we played from 10 years old all the way up. So we actually won states every single year till we were 18. Oh wow. Every single year we won states, and it was always against core. It was always colukoa or Imiike or Jammers. I don't I don't know if I don't know if jammers still are they still around jammers?

SPEAKER_07 18:47

I don't know. I heard something about them. I don't know. I don't that bruh. That's another thing about volleyball clubs, and there's so many. And they it's it is Drama Lani. It is it's like a dope opera.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

And uh, I mean like everyone's entitled, like yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

I'm like, this is how she's supposed to play, dude. Because even in Lani, like when I was playing, we only had one club, and then another one opened up in Milani, and then they kind of like stole players, and I'm like, what kind of you know, what kind of shit is this? But I mean it happens, like people, you know, people want to start teams, they want to play, and it's a tight, it's a tight community to get into, but so yeah, so I played MBC. Um we did win second in the nation one year with only seven girls. Oh wow. So when we went to AAU nationals, yeah, we played second. So we played in the champ, lost in the champ, but only with seven.

SPEAKER_07 19:49

That's big.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

Yeah, only with seven. I think we were 16 at the time. I don't even remember, it's been so long, but yeah, so we did that, and then junior year comes, and this is where you gotta start getting into recruiting. You know, you play at the Vegas tournament every February, January, coaching. Yeah, yeah. So the summer between sophomore and junior year, um, or actually not the the February before junior year, we went up to Vegas and I got a verbal offer from a JC in Texas.

SPEAKER_05 20:29

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

So this is before junior year, so I'm still a sophomore at this point. So they were looking for a setter uh junior college in Texas. It would have been a full ride, but the only thing is that it was two years. Yeah, you know, so even though it was still it was still early, I still verbally committed um just because you can't fully commit until your senior year, I believe. Um, so I did a verbally commitment just because I was the first one, you know. I'm all excited. I was like, yeah, I'll do it, and then you can always change your mind down the road.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Um, so junior year goals, nothing really new. This is where I'm like, we start reaching out to coaches and then um, you know, SATs, all the tests, all the GPA and all that stuff. And then the summer before senior year, actually not this summer, senior year, I got children to play in the all-star tournament, the all-star, I guess, tournament. So they pick one player from each school. And at this point, they pick one, yeah, one player from each school, both public and private. They do, I don't know if they still do it now, but they do east, west, north, and south. So four teams. And then you guys practice together and you guys play on TV against each other.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Um, so I was chosen for La Le Boa, and then at this time I had pretty like fully committed to Texas, not like legitimately, but verbally, like I was I was all in. I was like, okay, two years, I'll see you guys later next year, dad. Like, I'm leaving Hawaii. And at that game, at that all-star game, coach Daryl Capis, who was the head coach of Hawaii Pacific University at the time, was there. But he was there to watch another girl play. So yeah, and then after the game, he pulls me inside, and he's like, Hey, like, I wasn't really looking for a setter or a DS, but I want to see if you're interested in playing for HPU. And I'm like, like, like what? You know, because like to to be able to stay in Hawaii, like, that's kind of hard to do because you have UH and then you have HP U and Shamanat and BYU at the time, but I didn't really see myself playing for like HPU. I didn't even think about it. Like they weren't even on my radar. Oh, private school, and I wanted to go, I wanted to go like D1. Oh, and so I was like, I was like, okay, like we'll think about it, like I'll get your number, we'll talk about it later. And then so me and my dad sat down because my dad was my coach since I was like a little girl, like he coached me pal all the way to this.

SPEAKER_07 23:18

And he's a volleyball player too.

College Volleyball Experience at HPU

SPEAKER_00 23:20

He was not, he he's just a great coach. Like, you know, one of those, like they don't they never really play the sport, but they're great at coaching and observing and visualizing. So he was like that. Um yeah, so so maybe a couple months later, like both of them needed to know what what I wanted to do. So we have to do like a like a pros and cons list for each school. Okay. So Texas two years, HPU four years. Texas full ride, HPU maybe five thousand.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Oh okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Texas, I'm away, HPU I'm home. Texas has good majors, HPU has better academic majors. Oh, okay. More resources.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

So we decided that since I'm not guaranteed four years with Texas and being away from family, and I've I've just I've always been rooted to the island, I decided to stay with HPU. Okay, yeah, and it just long term it just seemed better for me because even though it was Texas, it was a D3 school for Texas.

SPEAKER_07 24:34

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

So yeah, so I was like, it's a it's a guaranteed starting position, but then at the same time, I wanted a good education that could supply me with a good career and a good background, yeah. And then just being at home and like the thing though, um, when I did apply for HPU, they gave me the the full dean scholarship, and I also um what is that word? Not applied, but acquired the Kamehameha scholarship.

SPEAKER_07 25:04

Oh, okay. Oh, there's Kamehameha scholarships.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Yeah, the uh Pauahi Scholarship. I don't know if it's still around. Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 25:13

My daughter, my daughter has that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Oh, okay, yeah. So for high school. Lucky enough, yeah. Lucky enough it was able to cover full tuition at HPU. Nice. So once we got that clarification, I'm like, dad, I'm going to HPU. Call the coach because he was bugging me. Capus was bugging me like every day. And I was like, so scared. You know, I'm like 17, 16, like I don't know how to do this.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Neither do my parents, they never applied to like university. Yeah. This is like the first of the family ever. So we're all like new to this.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Yeah, so blessings came though, and it was it was a great experience, and got to play for HPU. This the one thing I do like now looking back, and this is before I started HPU, because I thought like I was gonna be like all into like the college or fat party, you know, and all that, but HPU is not an actual college campus.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

So first day, first week going to class, I'm like, on Fort Street Mon, I feel like I'm a grown adult in New York, you know, like I don't feel like I'm in college. I feel like I'm with all these adults, they're on like student ties, business attire, and I'm like, this is kind of dope. And the the interesting thing is half of the school was international.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

So uh yeah, so I don't feel like I'm in the US, I feel like I'm in Sweden, I'm in France, I'm in Germany, like I'm meeting all these different kids, and then there's like a select few of locals. But my entire team, I think throughout all the four years, there's probably like at the max four local girls per year.

SPEAKER_07 26:54

Oh wow, where did you guys practice?

SPEAKER_00 26:57

So we used to practice at St. Andrew's Priory, so yeah, the little the little school by like a couple blocks away from Port Street, and they didn't have dorms, like they didn't have official HPU dorms at the time. So we had to stay in like the high rises.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Which is kind of nice. I'm not gonna lie. I think I'd rather stay in the high rise. Yeah, that's way better than what I'm gonna do. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's why I was like, huh, I'm kinda glad I didn't go to like a real college. This is kind of cooler. Um, yeah, so we practiced there, and then in the spring, it was mandatory to play beach volleyball. And I had never played beach volleyball at the time, and I didn't know that until we started to practice. So yeah, but once I guess I guess it depends on the school because we didn't really have the facilities to like do like to keep practicing because like basketball needed the gym, you know.

SPEAKER_07 27:57

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Um or acrobatics needed the gym. So four years there, a a lot to learn, a lot of great people I met. Um, I don't know if like you've heard this term before, but we used to call um the non-athlete NARP. No, you've never heard of that term? Uh-uh. Okay, maybe maybe when your daughter goes to school, she'll start saying it in college. So it stands for, and I feel like this is so like diffy, but it stands for non-athletic regular person.

SPEAKER_07 28:36

Okay, I know a bunch of those.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so because all the athletes hung out with each other, you know, it's kind of clicky, and then when we refer to the other non-student athletes, we call them NARPs. I'd call them scrubs. Scrubs.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

I think that's the mainland thing, though. I don't think because I've never heard that in the city. I definitely never heard that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it was interesting. And the the crazy thing, like playing four years with them, besides the four local girls, the rest of the girls were from California. So they're well not rest, but majority of them California mainland. So I actually lost my pigeon. Oh, because you guys hanging out my roommate, my roommate was from Seattle, Orange County, like California. So because when I would talk to them in pigeon, they would like look at me where like they can't understand me, you know, or they I I realized like, gosh, it sounds so ghetto, like you guys can't even understand me. I I thought I'm speaking English my whole life, but so I had to like I had to enunciate everything in college the first two years. And like I remember when I'd go home for Thanksgiving, and they'll be like, Why do you talk like that? And I was like, what do you mean? And then they're like, why do you talk like Holly? And I was like, and I I sat back and I was like, wait, I kind of do sound Holly. You know? So it's it definitely changes you when you live with teammates. If I was living at home, I probably wouldn't have, but yeah, I I think I needed to learn that to do presentations and interviews and all that.

SPEAKER_07 30:23

So you can turn them on and off now, huh?

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Yeah, now I can turn them on and off.

SPEAKER_07 30:27

So yeah, the proper English, and then you can bust the mocha hunters whenever.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

Yeah. The pucker.

SPEAKER_07 30:38

Yeah, yeah. My daughter's like that. She goes to Laser Don and they have a lot of uh girls that come from the mainland and and Kailua people, and they like I'll catch her talking, or she'll say a phrase, and it's like, oh, you sound like what Howley?

SPEAKER_04 30:55

Yeah, you cruising it.

SPEAKER_07 30:58

Yeah, but her club is all Nalo, so the Moha hunters comes back real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Yeah. I used to feel embarrassed speaking pigeon around them, but then after a while, like you you gain the pride, and like it doesn't even matter after that.

SPEAKER_05 31:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:15

It's just the the the change and the alteration in your language, like you learn that. So thanks to my work, girls, yeah.

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SPEAKER_07 32:02

And how was playing for HPU? Were you guys like top tier in the the what are you?

SPEAKER_00 32:08

Yeah, so so I think the first the first three years we had Tomaireca and she her and her sisters, like that whole family breathes athletes. Um she's from Kumameo, and her and a and a few other strong hitters, they were a year older than me. So we I think we would place we would we didn't even win championships, but I think we would place like top five in the conference. Um but I did start as the freshman and it was very on and off because I I realized in college like it's about who did who practiced the best that week.

SPEAKER_03 32:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

Yeah, like it changed every week, and it's it's not about who's the best player on the team, it's like how did you practice this week, you know? So it's it's different, it's different than club, because club, like you have your set starters and then you sub in the girls if you guys are winning, you know. College is not like that. Yeah, and it also depends on the team you're playing against, like it's very strategic. You know, if you have if you have if you're playing against a team that's doing a five-one, okay, you know that they're gonna have they're not gonna have a block, a good block when this girl is up front. So like switch, like switch it, let's put the taller girl in, let's start her instead. So every game it was different, and the level of play was really high. I remember first day, oh, I was freaking scared. I was like, I'm playing with men right now. Because Pomaya, she's th she literally wrecked the ball. Her last name was Recca. Amazing. But but it taught me a lot of um a lot of patience and I think I learned the most when I was in college. I think like the first two years learning volleyball was way more than I learned for the for the prior 10 years, you know. Oh and it all came down Yeah, and it all came down to the coaches because in college you have specific coaches. You have a stutter coach, you have a liberal coach, a blocking hitting coach, and then you have head coach, you know. So it's when we would practice, we would practice in our positions, kind of like football.

SPEAKER_07 34:26

Oh, that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

Yeah, so it's it's way more um not detailed, but like intimate. So fundamentally you learn way more in college than you do in prior to. And now I can look back and be like, like, I want to coach, you know, like I feel like my IQ has grown so much in the first two years at college that I can start coaching now.

SPEAKER_07 34:54

But then again, with work schedule, I work in. I was gonna say I know a club that needs coaches, and that would be awesome. You know, co help like my daughter, that would have been sick.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

I would love to coach maybe at the clinic here and there, but oh get me off of my work schedule that I can.

SPEAKER_07 35:13

I'm uh selfishly asking all these questions because of my daughters in it. She just uh made varsity, she's a sophomore, and okay. You see my daughter, she is not even five feet yet, and yeah, she her like it's it's a trip watching her just stand next to her teammates, but she's a little beast and she's battling to start. Um, there's two seniors ahead of her. Um kind of beat out one senior in my in from what I've been noticing, and she plays a bit. Um and she's kind of like well, of course, with the starting spot, but yeah, is it a lib? Yeah, she's a lib, yeah. They put her in DS uh and to serve uh now. But she she has goals and she wants to play college and all that, and I'm always down to support. I'm also realistic. Like we walked past Pepperline's team one time and they're like enormous. I'm like, yeah, like you could dig balls from this girl, like you can just you can walk under the net without ducking, like but um she's fired up about it. They she's um what is she playing for again, was club? She played for um Hoomal, which was Drive before, and they had a little bit of drama and they had to change and um now it's I think yeah, I remember you telling me about that. Yeah, yeah, and her director and coach is Coach Kerr, who I love. Like she's she's for one, she's a she's a strong individual and good good values for my daughter, not just as a player, but as a person, and and she walked it like she talked it. You would match perfect in our club to to coach. I just say I like that. But um my daughter, she's she's making uh gains and stuff. Right now, she had maybe like a a a game or so of a slump where she kept muffing the server Steve and like it's kind of cool to watch her uh struggle and have to get past it.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Comeback.

SPEAKER_07 37:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

It's 90% mental, 10% physical.

SPEAKER_07 37:39

People were telling me that, yo. And I was like, literally is uh and kind of what I was telling her uh like just go out there and play like you're playing in club. Like you never want to check over, serve, or Steve, so who cares? Like just go out there and do just do your thing. And yesterday they had like a three uh team uh four-team scrimmage. So they had Kalahill, Milani, and T-Berry from Maui came down and they just did scrimmaging all day, and it was cool. And she uh her club had these two girls that played for Kalahill, um last name Totele, and one of the um girls is still there, and so she knew Arya, and when Aria was like in seventh grade and stuff, and yeah, she put got to play against they played against each other yesterday, and and Arya actually dug one of her her spikes, and the girl was just so happy for her at the end of the day. She was like, tell tell Aria, I'm so proud of her, and all this kind of Aria got a little little inspired. It was cool, but it was surreal to see a girl that Arya always looked up to at clubs, yeah, and now they're playing against each other. And yeah, it was it was cool, it's cool to see. And I I as a dad, I'm I chip out on everything that they go through as volleyball players because it it it's uh like you said, it's a mental sport. And it's it my daughter is tiny, but she has a big heart, and she she's like me, she's a star loser. Like if you lose a game, like that's it. That like that's it's sorry, yeah. Especially if they're in a tournament and they lose the last game of the day. Like, oh that's the shitty.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Especially if it's a tight score. Oh, that's the worst.

SPEAKER_07 39:32

And she cannot hide it. Like she'll she'll get all like weld up and emotional and like she'd be pissed off and like she'll like eat, or she's just like yeah, is it I she like me, but I think sometimes sometimes that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

That uh as as long as they turn that into motivation and work harder and study film and do better the next time, you know, self-reflection. Sometimes it just has to pass through, and then she's like, Okay, what did I actually do wrong? You know, take accountability for that and work towards it. So there's so many like tiny little details as a defensive libero because I mean I don't want to be biased, but I honestly think like the libero is the the captain of the team. Because wherever the libero is, whatever the libero or wherever the libero is and stands, the other team, the team has to adjust. So like if the setter passes, Libero's getting the ball. So everyone has to receive back and look for her, see where she's at, see where she's gonna set. Um if every time somebody hits, Libero is the first the closest one to the hitter. Everyone else has to cover behind her. You know, she's she's the first contact, she's the first contact, she starts to play for the team. So it's it's it's so detailed, but at the same time, she's also adjusting to everyone else. So, like as a as a liberal left back, you have to trust your blockers that they will close on the outside. Because if they don't, she has to step inside of that hole and wait for that ball. If they do close, she has to step on the left side of the block and make sure she's covering ground.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

So it's it's not like, okay, wait for the ball, wait for the ball, get ready. No, you gotta calculate, okay, where is my blocker right now? Is she gonna make it all the way over there, or is there gonna be a hole? Should I start going back or should I already go forward? You know, so it's it's like so many little things you gotta calculate um as LeBron. And that's that's what that's what I learned my first two years. And that's why I was like, oh my god, this position is crazy. I don't know how anybody can do this. No wonder there's only one, nobody else wants to do it, you know.

SPEAKER_07 41:58

I thought the center was like the quarterback, but Lana, see, like for me, all quarterback. Yeah, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

I guess I guess liberal would be the center.

SPEAKER_07 42:08

Yeah, yeah. Like they start to play, you know. So I don't get it though, because like a rotation, I don't understand any of that shit. Yeah, like my daughter tried to explain to me once, and then she's like, Dad, you don't need to know this. And like it's always simple. Yeah, what you what you just explained confused me already. And I'm thinking like this is why she's lucky. I don't know volleyball. Because if she wanted to fight, if she wanted to fight, I could culture. If you want to do something else that I did before, I could culture, but she's lucky. But that whole all I know is just don't let the ball touch the ground. Yeah, no, it's it's not that simple.

SPEAKER_01 42:48

It should be that simple, but it's really not.

SPEAKER_07 42:51

But see, you explaining to me all that just re-iterified what I think is that you should be coaching.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

I know, I know. I really wish I could.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

I could do weekends, but not weekdays.

SPEAKER_07 43:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

Sorry, but somebody's gotta put the news on.

Career Transition to Hawaii News Now

SPEAKER_07 43:06

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So that being said, I can get off volleyball, or that's gonna be like a two-part mini-series on this tool. Okay, I want to take this short moment to shout out our sponsors, Medicinal Mushroom Toys. They're a locally based medicinal mushroom company, and they have five tinctors of extracted mushrooms. They have lion's being, chaga, turkey tail, red raichy, and the newest one, quartips. You can take a look on their website, medmushroomhide.com, and they'll explain to you exactly what each one of these mushrooms can do for you. I take all five every single day. I'll take the first three in the morning, I'll take the red rai at night to help me sleep good, and the quarter steps I'll take before I work out, it gives me a boost of energy. But go on their website, medmushroomhigh.com. If you use promo code ATBPod upon checkout, all capital letters, you'll get 45% off your first tincture of whatever mushroom you want. Go get one, go get three, get go get them all. I use them all every single day. But medmushroomhigh.com. Now back to the show. But uh like you said, you have a job and you're very very strenuous. And honestly, it was the thing that impressed me most about you because watching your videos on Instagram seeing you do what you do for work just made me think like how's this fucking boss chick? Like that's that's that's the uh strength I definitely want my daughter to have to be able to do not maybe your job, but to have that confidence. And it's cool that you post it because I feel like that could inspire girls. But anyway, yeah, you work for Hawaii News Now. I want to know what do you do and how did you get to where you were or are?

SPEAKER_00 45:05

Okay, so we'll start from the beginning. Um I actually brought on from one of my mom's cake clients. So she has a cake business, and at the time, I think prior to working for Hawaii's now, I was working in tourism for a decade, 10 years. Worked in hotels, worked in timeshare, worked in front desk, um, vacation club. I did the whole nine, and then I think I just had left my job maybe around like March, April of 2023. And so took a few months off, and I was like, okay, I'm ready to get back into work. But I was like, I don't really want to get into tourism again just with COVID. Oh yeah. And then yeah, and so like I wanted to get into something event related or media related, because that's what I've always done on the side. I've always worked with vets, that's how I know Hops, that's how I know you, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 46:05

Um Donnie.

SPEAKER_00 46:07

And so, yeah, Donnie. And so I was like, So my mom knew that one of her customers was an engineer for Hawaii Niz now. And so she was like, she's like, Oh, like let me know if you have any positions. Like, I think my daughter would like to work there, and then one day he he texted me and he was like, Why don't you just come in and see what it's like? So super like informal, I just show up and I show up during noon. So all I did, I just went into the control room, so that's where everything is going on backstage. You see all the screens on the lawn, I'm like fascinated, right? And so I guess one of the one of the workers tried to teach me something, so he taught me how to cut commercials, and like I'm not even hired, like I'm not even interviewed, I just like show up and like just watch, you know. So he was like teaching me this stuff, and then he had to go somewhere, and then I finished it. And he was like, he was like, Wait, what? Like, you don't even work here, like some of the people who were here can't even do that in like 20 minutes, you know. And this is his first day and this is not even this is like I'm just showing up just to watch. Like and and then I was like, like I wanna like see what you guys do. So he was showing me, and then when he went to the bathroom, I was like, Let me just do it for it, like let me just try, you know. And then and then he came back and he was like, You're working already? And I was like, What else am I gonna do? Just down here, you know, like I gotta do something. Like, if this is what I wanna do, like I might as well try it out, you know, test the water. And so I I came back another time and again I stayed there for another four hours because this is a job like this is a job you gotta you can't really interview for it, you have to do it. Yeah, it's almost like you have to like test your knowledge, test yourself, because it's it's not something that you I mean, unless you already have experience in it, it's something that you have to learn along the way. If you're good at learning quick, and if you're good at adjusting quick, um fast reflexes and great with computers, also being a good like director of like being affirmative on what you're saying, like what you want goes, like having trust in yourself and confidence, this is a job for you. So the technical term is called uh TMP, which stands for technical media producer. So we have two jobs. One half of the job is what's called master control. And I never knew that this was a thing before, but you know how on like on like a TV guide, like on Spectrum, the channel guide, there's like uh it shows you like the shows that are showing up and all that.

SPEAKER_03 49:06

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:07

Basically, our job is to watch all of those shows, make sure they're clean before it goes on air.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

So we get fed different shows like Judge Judy, 25 words or less, we get CBS, we get MBC, their newscast, um, their prime time, their late shows. And while it's coming in, we're just checking it. Checking it, making sure that there's no black on air, that it's not pixely, that the audio is coming through. Then we put it into what's called like a playlist, like a like a music playlist. Okay, you're playing this at this time, this at this time, this commercials in here. Okay, we gotta check the commercials too. We get like we get like 50 commercials a day, we gotta watch. 15 seconds, 50 commercials takes about an hour. So we just gotta make sure that that works because that's money. That's that that's what pays our salaries is the commercials. Um, so that's one half of the job is basically basically watching TV. The second half of the job is the news directing side. So I like to call it old school just because I'm new to this industry, but the traditional way of being a technical director is the person in the control room who's telling everybody what to do. So they're like ready, eight, take eight, mics up, take video, take thought. You know, there's there's language you gotta learn with that. So back then, or not the traditional way, they had somebody for audio who managed the microphones, they had somebody for light, they had somebody who did the video, they had somebody who operated cameras. So there's there used to be one person for each, I guess, uh element of the newscast or of a production. Now there's what's called automation. So now we have one computer that does all of that for you.

SPEAKER_07 51:15

Oh, okay. So it took the place of everybody.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

Yeah, so it kind of took the place of everybody, which is in a sense good because it's it's a little easier, but then at the same time, like it kind of pushed out some people. Oh yeah. And yeah, and to to learn that system after, you know, being accustomed to the traditional way for 20 years, like it's it's kind of difficult. Like I could see how that could be um difficult for people to change, you know, learn a whole new thing, something that you didn't sign up for in the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 51:49

But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

But basically, I am a director and an operator at the same time. So for for every every newscast every day, the producer is the person that writes the script. They they lay out how you want the show, how they want the show to be. Okay, on camera video, thought, we'll put a graphic up on camera again, we'll put this in the wall. They lay it out for me, and then my job is to put all of those elements into the system. Oh, I think of it like a list of events I have to do, right? So all of this is pre-production. It's it's it's already coded. It's what we call each event, it's called a code.

SPEAKER_04 52:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

So that's something that you learn. That's like good with computers, you know, computer savvy. You learn how to code, and then once you start your show, it's just spacebar all the way.

SPEAKER_07 52:46

Oh, okay. And you know when to push it.

SPEAKER_00 52:49

Yeah. So we know when to push it because we're going off the prompter. In the prompter, there's cues that tell you when to do certain things. So that is like our GPS. That's like our navigation system that tells us when to do everything. As long as the m the biggest concern is that we need to make sure that this show looks clean. We need to make sure that we don't cut out of anything too early, that you know, when they're on camera, their microphone is on. So it's so many little details that go into this that you you're thinking about eight things at once. You know, um, it's it's very like multitask heavy because we have um in the booth, like in the actual control room where we operate, we have one, two, three, four, five monitors in front of us. But all that's being operated is just the space bar. But it takes the brain of all these monitors to automate the entire newscast. So it's it's very technical job, but I I love it, and I don't have to, you know, put makeup on every day and be all pretty. Like I'm I literally sweatpants and a sweatshirt. Like I'm in the back, I'm chilling, you know, playing games on my phone. Okay, like it's it's not easier. It is fun. It's it's kind of like playing a giant video game, not gonna lie. Like if you're in there, like that that's what I would compare it to when I first started. It's like it's like I'm operating like you know, like in Star Wars when when they're in the like in the main room, and there's like people sitting at the and they're looking out and they're like, Yeah, that's kind of what it feels like.

SPEAKER_07 54:35

So that's super dope.

SPEAKER_00 54:37

It's kind of cool, it's super nerdy, but I love it.

SPEAKER_07 54:39

Like, I like that kind of wow. I wouldn't mind coming to watch one time, like check it out. That would be super dope.

SPEAKER_01 54:46

Yeah, shoot. We'll even put you on our podcast. We do have some time, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 54:50

That'll be super cool. Did um did you ever mess up to where it's like, oh shit, because you're live, right? On the news.

Directing Live Sports Broadcasts

SPEAKER_00 54:59

Yes, you are live. Um golly, I have messed up so many times. Oh, really? And it's like so many, like that's how you learn. You gotta mess up. And I I remember my very first 10 o'clock news. I think this is like a month into working there, two months into working there. My very first 10 o'clock news, and keep in mind the 10 o'clock is broadcast on all three news stations of ours.

SPEAKER_06 55:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:28

Whereas like other ones are like, okay, one or two, but this is the triple cast, like 50,000 people are watching me. And I don't I don't really remember what happened, but I think I might have taken the camera too early. Oh, and Kiahi wasn't ready.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

Kiahi Tucker wasn't ready, and he like he just looked bad on Irino, and it's my fault.

SPEAKER_07 55:52

Oh, he's like digging his nose or something.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

No, I don't even remember. He's probably just looking down, but but that mistake gave me nightmares for the next like two weeks. Oh, it's it's it's the kind like it scars you, and then the next time you're in the booth, you're shaking. Oh yeah, you're shaking. So it it it does something to you, and like for when I used to tell my other coworkers or ask my other core workers, like, oh, like if you make mistakes, what do you do? And they're like, honestly, like you you gotta forget about it instantly because the more you let it stay in your head, the more you actually might fuck up again.

SPEAKER_07 56:34

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

You you gotta filter it out. You have to because you have to be calm. You cannot be stressed out. It is the most stressful environment, but you have to be the calmest person in the room because you are literally operating this entire beast by yourself.

SPEAKER_07 56:52

That's insane. Well, that makes that makes your uh experiences playing volleyball vital, like you said, it's 90% mental, and I know for a fact you mess up during volleyball, you gotta put that one play out your head immediately.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Yeah, you gotta write back, bro. Yeah, right back. Yeah. So I'm glad I went through that in sports because next thing it applies in news.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

Like you get over it and you do better the next time, but yeah, um, also like just just learning how to do like the technical things, like with the engineering side and just just learning the the nerdy side of this. Like, I can't do this anywhere else, you know. I can't learn type codes at a hospital or at a hotel. Like, there's so many things I can do. Like, I've I've learned how to do some of the things that ES ESPN can do on their broadcast.

SPEAKER_06 57:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:51

So it's it's a whole nother world, and there's only like two other news stations on the KITV and KSLN. Yeah. Like if I didn't want to like go to another job, there's only two more jobs to go to.

SPEAKER_03 58:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:03

It's definitely but then yeah, but then ours, ours is the biggest because we have three news stations, whereas they have one each. So it's like, yeah, so I don't want to leave.

SPEAKER_07 58:14

And you seem to have fun and you're good at what you're doing. Where do you see yourself taking this career in the future? Okay, I want to take this short moment to shout out iRep Detail Supply. They're one of our sponsors, they're your one-stop shop superstore for everything you need to detail your vehicle. They have a store in Temple Valley Shopping Center as well as in Las Vegas. But if you go on their website, irepdetelsupply.com, and use promo code ATBPod upon checkout, you'll get 15% off your entire purchase order. They also have a Halloween event in their Temple Valley shopping center location in the parking lot. It's a trunk or treat uh event, and I'll give you the flyer and you can learn more about it. Also go to irepdelsupply.com. Aloha.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Well, um, I've always wanted to work for the NFL.

SPEAKER_07 59:10

Oh my god, just yes, get that job.

SPEAKER_00 59:15

So I I have always wanted to work in sports broadcasts, ESPN, like I want to be on the field, like I wanna work sports. And the thing with um HN when I started, like we didn't do sports broadcasting, we did sports reporting where like Kyle Chenan and Sierra Pillatin, you know, go out to the games and interview, but we didn't have like a sports department. Lucky enough, dreams came true. God answered my prayers. We started sports broadcasting, high school sports in August. Oh, really? Which is actually my my annual, like my anniversary date.

SPEAKER_07 59:58

Oh, okay. From when you

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

So yes, from when I started, which also is my very first day working at HN was the Mount of Wildfire. Fun fact. But you can imagine the kind of shit I walked into at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:11

Yeah. Plus it's heavy. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:15

Yeah, it's heavy. But um, yeah, I would like to work for the NFL one day, just just any big broadcast really to do with sports. Um, just because it's also been a passion of mine since little girl days, but we have started a new show called Game Game Time. Game Day. Oh my gosh. So it's called Game Day. Um, and right now we are doing the this conference sports for volleyball and football. Oh, really? So this is Big Island. Yeah, so this is Big Island. Um, it's still new, it's on K5. Um, but we like we it just kind of happened. Like one day my boss was like, Oh, by the way, we're gonna do sports. Do you wanna do it? And I'm like, okay, yeah, cool. The thing is with sports, it's different from news because and also they're they're a on another island.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:16

But we are actually controlling it from Oahu.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:20

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

Yeah, so we have a media team out there in Big Island called K-Bikes. Um, they're actually the media high schoolers from Hilo High.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:32

Oh wow, that's super cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

Yeah, so these are actually high school kids operating our cameras. So what they do, they have the equipment, they do all the camera work out there, and then they feed it back to me. But then I am the producer and director. Which is usually what you don't do when we do broadcasts, you usually have one producer and one director, but I'm doing both jobs. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:00

So I'm doing a two, three, four-man job in one. Um and is it live? This is also like this is still a new thing. Yes, it's live. It's live. And we have a so we have a pre-game show, we have a halftime show, we have a post-game show, we do interviews with the suit with the players, we interview the coaches in the beginning. We, you know, we do the starting lineup, it's the whole shebang.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:23

Oh wow. Yes, and you're calling like camera three, pan in and camera two, or like that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:31

So my boss is my boss flies up for these games, he's the one calling those camera shots. But then I I can I I I trust him enough to do it, but I can also chime in and be like, oh, we want to get close up to seven, you know. It just it just depends. But I don't want to put too much pressure on the kids, you know, they're high school kids, like they're still learning, so I kind of just let him do his thing. And it's new for me too. Like, I've never called football, like I've watched volleyball and I play volleyball, but I don't know what to look at, you know. It's not my forte, but but my boss has worked for OT16, he's done he's done sports work with them. So basically, like with OC16, we're we're kind of doing the same type of thing that they're doing. We're just doing it uh from a control room with one person versus they're doing it from a truck with 20.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:19

Yeah, they have a trailer, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

They do it from their truck. It's but it's just because we have an automation system, we can do multiple things at once where they have the traditional style. So it's a little different, but we're yeah, we're just hoping to like get this bigger and get more eyes on the other islands because we don't we only see Oahu, you know, and we'll we'll see the we'll see the other islands when they come to Oahu, but Big Island plays Maui sometimes. They're like Big Island can play Lana'i, you know? Like the other islands fly to each other where they rarely come here. Yeah, I'm glad that we get to incorporate.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:55

So you tell it's being televised statewide, not just in that there's oh that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:02

Statewide, yeah. And so it's it's nice to get the other states involved, and like you know, for the parents, for the families out there, and be like, oh my god, this is my first time, you know, yeah. Like, I'm so proud, and like I'm I'm really happy that we can do that for them. Um and these kids, I'm having these kids, man. Like, these are kids operating these cameras. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:26

Yeah, it's cool though. It could spawn a career for them. I'm glad when I was in high school they didn't have OC16 because they would have video evidence of me getting destroyed at Aloha Stadium. I'm like my daughter, yeah. Um yeah, I'd be on like hungry Hawaiian, like this Damien player got destroyed from Kumima or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:50

Yeah, yeah. And and we do we do have them all saved on our website. So, like if they ever want to go back, they can just go and watch the games and oh that's awesome. Yeah, so we're we're we want it to grow. We're still so small. There's just a lot of people don't even know about it, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:07

They don't know that it's yeah, you did it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:10

So we we gotta get we're starting to get the word out. Um, it was a very software type of thing, but the more we do, now we're getting asked to to detelevise. Oh whereas before we had to ask schools if they wanted to, but now schools are reaching out to us. Yeah, who's hosting it? Uh Sienna Pilliton.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:30

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

So she's uh one of our sports reporters, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:34

Oh, that's super cool. I I briefly met uh Kyle. He came to uh I taped an episode of my podcast with the Damien football coaches when they were going through their stuff and he showed up and filmed some of it. I didn't know that he was gonna be there or or what, but yeah. I was yeah, that was a crazy moment in my life. But the um broadcast you guys do seems uh super uh you not user-friendly, but for local people, they it's relatable. And I like watching your guys' one more than any other new sports. The um OC16 has Oahu on lock pretty much, and and certain sports. Are you guys trying to maybe battle with them and and get some of the Oahu teams to to be on your guys' show or it it's can't be done?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:33

I mean, I ideally Oahu would be easier since you know it's the same island as us, and we don't have to fly out and hire out like non-HN where we can just have our own employees do it. Yeah um, but I think it just comes down to contract.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:53

My actually my daughter's uh verse first time gonna be on TV is gonna be Tuesday. They're OC68. Yeah, she's gonna play uh hopefully she gets in, but um she'll she'll there's they're playing Secret Hearts, so yeah, hopefully they win. Yeah, it should be a good one. The um Where's it at? I think at Leisure Dawn.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:15

Oh, they're open, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:17

They have yeah, they got all the good stuff that where they can put park the trailer there and and work.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

I think um HPU HPU's gym is the old Sacred Heart gym.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:31

Oh really?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:32

I think so, because yeah, because I think the the year after I graduated for anything, they bought uh I think they bought Sacred Heart's gym.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:41

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:42

So now yeah, because now they have their own gym, and I'm like, where was this when I was in school?

SPEAKER_07 1:07:47

Yeah. Well put put in for me to get girls at Damien. I think where was that when I went to school? Super nut. Yeah, my daughter, we just played Damien, and I'm thinking, I'm sitting in the gym. For one, that the gym look way smaller than it was when I was there. And then I'm thinking, like, I'm literally watching my daughter's team play Damien when we didn't even have girls at our school.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:14

We didn't even have there's no girls in this on this court right here ever. Yeah. Growing that's why people growing.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:24

Yeah. Well, I think you you have a passion for sports, and that'll probably take you to whatever career direction you have. And you have the mental fortitude and the girl strength to just fucking make things happen. Like that's that's those characters, characteristics that I want my for my daughter, not oh, should I do this or should I say, ah, I just gonna do this. Like this is I'm gonna try this. I'm gonna exert myself into these situations. And I always tell her it's better to say sorry than ask if you can do them. So just do them.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

Take initiative, kind of take initiative. I'm definitely one thing, yeah. That's one thing with um with HN, or I guess maybe in production in general, since the industry is always changing, there's always new things that can happen. So, like I've only been here for two years. And from like with that little little time, I was able to do to broad to direct both elections. I was the first one to direct the Mary Monarch whole weekend night. We've never done the whole weekend night for Mary Monarch. It was our first year. I got chosen. Um, I got chosen to do game day. Um, I got chosen to teach a Kalele class, which is uh we're teaching some people, it's a collab with Kamehameha, and they're gonna learn about production, like and taking initiative. I like I want to do these things, you know. So you can't you can't want things in the future and like just think it's gonna happen. Like you have to take initiative, you have to, you have to push yourself forward. You sometimes you might have to step over people, but if that's what you gotta do to get what you want, that's what you gotta do. That's that's my kind of mentality, and I've always been like that. Like I'm uh I'm an impatient person, it's both a blessing and a disguise. Impatient because like I can kind of be a bitch, but also impatient because when I want something, I want it now, and I'll step over anybody to get it. Yeah, you know, but still be able to be humble and like love people get along with it.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:36

Yeah, you can't do it with aloha, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:38

Yeah, exactly. Do it with aloha. So, like that's that's kind of like how I'm inserting myself into this brand new career of mine, and it's opened up so many, so many more doors for me that I haven't before. You know, like this is just the beginning of game day. Like, who knows? Maybe a couple years down the line, I'll be able to like internship for the 49ers broadcast. Yeah, like it it bleeds into each other, and so just just right now, just building the resume, building these shows, coming up with ideas just to better what we already have, like not staying stagnant, you know, and that's there's the athlete in me again, just like not just being content and just keep doing, dude.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:26

Yeah, that's it. There's no cap, and that's no, that's exactly the mentality I have, and that's why I get along with Hoppe so well. It's we share the say we're gonna do an event soon. Like, I'm helping him produce his first uh big event and the RB one, yeah. Yeah, that one's gonna be ridiculous. You gotta come to that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:49

Oh, yeah, and that's another thing too. Like, I'm I'm in an industry where I can help friends and family, like if they want to promote things. I remember we had Hoppe the two years, the two past years, and that's all the years that I've been working here. Like, I want to make that consistent. I just text to them last week. When is the next date? So I can tell the producers, you know, like like that. That's what I was doing prior to HN is like helping small businesses, like helping Hoppe, helping my mom's cake or my friend's restaurant or my friend's food truck. Like since COVID, that's been a thing. Like, we have to support each other because that's literally all we have. And we realize that during COVID. Yeah, so we're like, okay, what are we gonna do? Just sit around on our fat ass, eat all day. No, we gotta do something, we gotta go and we gotta help our friends, we gotta support, you know, we gotta share. Yeah, and like I'm at a platform where I can literally share the thousands of people, and that's alone. It's perfect, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:45

That's super cool. I think with that being said, that shows your initiative, and also it shows that whatever your goals are. I I wanted to ask you what guarantee you is a captain of your volleyball team, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

Guarantee a little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:06

That's that's exactly like my daughter, like she just has to be show that initiative, and when you get opportunity, don't sit on it. Like create more opportunities when you have an opportunity and build and build on it. I think that um that is why I'm gonna make my daughter watch this episode because she needs to hear strong women talk about doing strong things, and I think that's exactly who you are, and I think that's what my listeners will will get value from this episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:42

And always, always ask questions, even if you think it's stupid. Say that you have a stupid question first and then ask it, you know, like just be c just be confident in it, just know that you're learning, you're different. There's so many different personalities around you, but it doesn't matter because it just matters what's in your what's in your heart with your Kuleana, and just act on it, you know. Like your heart and your mind will guide you. What feels right will guide you. So just pay attention, open your ears, open your eyes, and just explore. Yeah, it's it's endless, it's endless.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:19

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:20

Two years ago, I was checking in guests, you know. Now I'm fucking broadcasting sports on freaking statewide TV. That's crazy to me. So that's all just because my mom does cakes, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:33

So lose use your resources, reach out to people. Like, I'm able to do this because I knew Hoppa. Yeah, and you know, now we're here.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:42

Yeah, and that's that's the thing. Exactly. Network and don't be afraid to take chances. You're um yeah, if you that's a that's a crazy story to go from one thing to another. And it's what I tell tell my daughter and also my friends that you have to be ready for an opportunity. It's like opportunity is gonna come, and if if you can't do anything with it, then it just goes away. Like my daughter, yeah. I I tell her when the coach puts you in, you have an opportunity to start to beat out the starter. If you go in and and don't take advantage of your opportunity, then guess what? You went back on the bench, it goes away. So you have to be able to be ready for your opportunity, not get ready. It's like I'm ready for it. So when it happens, that's that's destiny. It's like you're you're ready for the opportunity. When the opportunity comes, then you just hit it out the part. If was it?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:42

I have a little what is that? Actually, yeah, I'm gonna tee off of that because I have a little trick.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:47

Okay, well, your daughter or anybody that like anybody that might feel like they're in an area where they might be scared. So I used to do this in college ball because I was I was a freshman and there's all these girls six feet, you know, and you come in, you sob, and like you feel the same thing, like you're a little scared, you're a little timid. And so I started to develop these like kicks in me where I would get ready, I'd have my hands like this, and I'd be looking at the server, and I'd be like, Yeah. I was like, come here. So, like, even this little motion, like it flipped my mind completely. And ever since I started to do that, dime passes. And for some reason, like I kind of do the same thing when I'm doing news now. So I like sit down and I'll like put my hands on the table like this, put my hands on the table and be like, all right, here you go.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:42

Bring it.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:42

Like it's it's like a yeah, it's like a mental trigger for me now. Like, okay, now I'm on. So I don't know, maybe it'll help her out too.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:50

But I'm actually gonna show her that clip as soon as we're done recording.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:55

Yep, have her right there. Come here, come here. I want you. Let's bring it up. Bring that shit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's the mentality, that's the physical connection you gotta make with your mind and your body to get ready for whatever beast is gonna come at you.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:10

That's super cool. I'm definitely gonna share that with her. Like she that's and she does she one thing about my daughter, she's good at putting um mistake past her. And I I I don't I don't know how she picked that up. Like it's just her. She's a store loser, she would she's very dedicated, and if she makes a mistake, it's out her head by the neck on the which I I do think is is cool. Um so I don't want to ask you other than play volleyball, what what do you do on your free time? I mean, minus your injury, like what do you do for fun?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:47

Honestly, drink drink can I play on the court? I'll still go, but I'll drink on the side.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

Yeah, um, yeah, I still go watch my friends play, I just drink on the side. But honestly, this is the time I took to just wind down and relax because I've been go, go, go my whole life from 10 years old, volleyball all the way, and then volleyball, work all the way, still playing volleyball. So this is like my time to just be grounded, do things that I wouldn't normally do. So I don't really have like another hobby again. I'm just I'm just relaxing.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:26

Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:27

When you now I I cannot, I have an excuse. Oh, you want to go out and all my needs are that's a good one.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:36

Like sometimes you know, I don't like go out and I don't want to be hung over. Like today, I'm hung, I'm hurting. Like driving to the night, watch the nine or so. I'm just like, oh man, I didn't even want to leave the house.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:48

And you did it too, because uh like I'm sure you're involved in beds in events too, and that was another thing I was involved with my whole adult life, and since COVID, like all the way through COVID too. And now I'm like, God, I've been doing this for a decade. I'm tired. Like, exactly, I don't care about going out anymore. Yeah, I want to stay home. I I lost sleep for 13 years.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:10

Let me catch up a little bit, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:11

Yeah, that's why I call I was like, they they gotta pay me to be out in the club and drinking.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:17

No, literally, yeah, and pay for my Uber, yeah, pay for my dungeon.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:23

And recently I've been a long time in the game, and uh since we stopped doing Eve, it's been the first moment in my life in a long time where I'm not in the nightclub doing events every single Friday. Every Friday we're there every Friday.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:42

I just think about it.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:43

I love it. I'm happy. I'm yeah, I don't relate to the the younger generation as much. They're I always say they're learning stuff that I'm trying to forget. And they're it's just you're right. Like you said, uh the woman that you are is how I would want my daughter, but uh unfortunately, a lot of the girls in this generation are very entitled, they're very expected to get things given to them. They're not down for the hard work, they're it's too in tune to everything on their phone.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:20

And I was gonna say social media has a part to play in that.

Finding Balance and Life Perspective

SPEAKER_07 1:20:24

Yeah, and it it's unfortunate that they're more focused on sharing the moment that they're having than actually enjoying the moment that they're having. They're in the club, like, oh, I gotta show everybody. I'm in VIP and we're getting bottle served. And it's like you're not even enjoying that. You're at Lani, I'm at Lani Kai and I'm watching these girls do a full photo shoot with their phones for like half an hour and then they get up and leave. And I'm like, you you're so in tune to show everybody that you're having a time at Lani Kai that you're not even enjoying the one of the most beautiful beaches on earth. Like it's it's just shetty. And and I think people, girls need more role models like you, and be able to relate to, oh, I'm a bad boss girl that can do things for myself, and I don't need anything. I can chill out and I can create my own opportunities and network. And that's the kind, and I'm not saying all girls are like that. I'm sure there's plenty, it's just in the industry that I'm in, I rarely see that. And it's it's just crazy. Fortunately, my wife is one of those girls who's very strong and and does things and makes moves. And uh I feel like not just Hoy, but the whole country needs more girls to step up and and not be entitled and yeah, think they're the shit or whatever, and just yeah, or have to worry about someone else taking care of them. Like do your own thing and and be strong that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:03

So I think like like with the party, like you know, with girls and how they go out and how they're just like taking pictures and all that. I think it comes down to um like what they went through. Like, for example, so for me, like I was working in a male industry. I my first job ever was at Band Project Republic.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:24

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:25

At you know, 19, 20 years old. And ever since then, I've I've still been involved in in male industry events, you know. So being being a woman in such a male heavy industry, obviously you're gonna start off on your toes. You you know, you don't wanna be seen as like weak, but at the same time, you don't want to be taken advantage of.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:51

So it's like, how can I play both sides and still be respected? So unfortunately, like a lot of women go through this, even if they don't work in the industry, like just for going out with girls, you know, just around around that type of environment where it's very heavy on um first impressions and judging, yeah, it's it's a very fine line to walk as a woman. So like I had to go through a lot of struggles. I had to understand, and I had I cried numerous nights out just to like understand life and like reality of what it's like to be a working woman in a male industry.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:31

And so now that I'm 10 years out, now I get it. Now I'm like, okay, like I did this, I did this, and then this happened. But granted, I'm still glad I did that because I would have never learned and never grown from it. So I've made hella mistakes throughout my life, and I've embarrassed myself so many times.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:50

Trust me.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:50

But like I have to do it in order to get through it. You know, you get through it, you don't get over it. You learn from it, you make the mistakes and you learn from it. So and I think like like with the social media nowadays, like they're just watching these things, they don't go through these types of things. So when they act off social media, it's not pure, it's not really like what they feel, you know, like these girls at Lani Kai, like they're they're doing it to tee up with the girls that did it before.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:21

Whereas like whereas, like if I go to Lani Kai and I do a photo shoot, like I'm I'm doing it with intention. Like, I'm either gonna, you know, like print this out for me and like put it on my poster, like put it on my wall, or like I'm gonna help take pictures for a friend's, you know, bikini business. You know, there's gotta be intention between everything that you do, and that's what these kids don't understand these days. Like they just do it just to do it, or they do it for likes and follows, and like there's no there's no purpose in that.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:52

Yeah, you know. How do you navigate social media?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:57

Um, so I used to be heavy into it um around COVID time because that's the only thing that we had. Yeah. I was I was I learned the algorithm, I learned the science behind it, and I I tested it and it worked, and I used that as my business. And I I before before doing this, like people people would always say, I would see like social media is bad, like there's so many bad things on there, which is like I I agree, there is, especially nowadays. Um, but I I tried to help people understand like the good sides of it. You know, like there's there's so much things that you can learn and educate yourself on. There's so much um entertainment that you can see that you can't from, you know, your from your state. We're all the way in Hawaii. Like we can see all these comedy things, all these little reels that were never a thing before. It was always just YouTube. Um, you can actually find family members that you've never met before instead of doing 23andMe and Googling their name, you know. So there's so many like positive ways to do it. And so after doing that, like I've I've grown a big following, and then I realized like okay, like I have a nine to five now. I don't, I don't really need to like put myself out there anymore. I feel like I've I feel like I've done everything I've wanted to accomplish to learn and like to enrich myself in. Like, I don't feel like I need it anymore. That's at some point I felt like I needed it, and that was what was sustaining me. And then I started to get freaking corporal tunnel in my life. And I was like, this, I gotta go. That's when you know it's bad. Yeah, that's when you know your job's bad. And so I was like, you know what? Like, I gotta spend time with my family, and then I got back to work and I I went, I helped start um an after-school program for Boys and Girls Club at the beach. So I got into that, and I got like really invested in like teaching and learning and like educating and helping people, and so that's where I was like, okay, I'm not gonna do it on social media anymore. I'm gonna do it in real life.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:18

Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:20

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get away from my phone, I'm gonna be present, yeah, and I'm gonna fly myself. Yes, I wanna be present in the moment. I wanna I wanna eat first and then take pictures after. I don't want the phone to eat first. I'm hungry. I wanna eat first, you know. You gotta tell that to my wife.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:39

Yeah, I'm legit food will come, I'm ready to pound, and she's just like, oh wait, let me take a picture. I'm like, nobody cares about the fucking fettuccine alfredo. Like, just let me eat it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:51

Everybody knows what it's yeah, but I I think I think it just comes with like like that kind of stuff. It just comes with short-term gratification that people can feel, you know, in the moment, they're like all excited about it, yeah. But I think like once you like once you do that for a long time, like it gets old, yeah, you know, and so then you're like, okay, like I need something else, you know, I need more. But then you put the phone down and you realize, like, my god, you actually have a zit on your face, you know, like you see things, yeah, and then you can use it it forces you to talk talk to people and open up and like yeah, god, it's just it's so beautiful that way. It's so beautiful with the phone down.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:34

Yep, I agree. And you live in the moment.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:38

You live in the moment, you make long memories, it's like that's the actual memory that will stay with you, not the one that's in your 127-gigabyte phone, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:47

Yeah, at all. I I always bring this story up for the same reason. When I I went to a third eye blind concert at Republic, and they're jamming or whatever, and the lead singer started a song, and like maybe like the first couple chords, he just stopped me. He's like, Okay, this is what I want to do for this one song. Everybody put your put your phone away. I don't want to see one screen, I don't want to see anybody. Yeah, I just I want to be with you guys connected while we play this song. I want you guys to connect to us and me to you guys in this moment, not on a screen, not it's just us. And they start jamming and everybody started singing, and like it it just elevated the vibe of that one song. And I was like, Wow, this is what it's supposed to be. Like, if you don't, and and I do it too sometimes. It's like when you're at a concert and your song comes down, you're like, oh my god, and oh my god, yeah, I just never watch it ever again.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:50

I don't like yeah, but I know, I mean you missed out the actual because you're looking at your phone, you're missing out the full picture, and I've learned to do that more.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:00

Especially when I'm at concert. I was at Metallica in in 49er Stadium a couple months ago. And I was I recorded one thing that I'm here, and the rest was like, I'm gonna experience every single moment of each of my favorite songs and just be present. And that memory is gonna be my little photo book. Like the memory of it is gonna be what I'm gonna carry. I don't need to have it on my phone, and yeah, it is different. And I think that's something that the youth will never understand, and it's it's just habit, right? Oh shit, it's my song. Like first thing is your phone's up already, yeah. And it's like you're not in the moment.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:40

We can't go back, like we're stuck that way. We can't go back to not having phones, you know. Yeah, like they don't allow phones at concerts, but who's gonna show up for a concert that does that?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:49

Yeah, exactly. I think too, one thing of phones uh cut out the bullshit. Like when you're a little kid, half of the things you do when you're a little kid is bullshit. Your friends, you I don't make up all kinds of stories now. These kids can fact check each other and be like, that's not what happened. Like, so your creativity's gone. Yeah, there's no lying, there's no lying no more. And I think I think all these kids gonna get fat because they're not actually paddling their bikes, they all have e-bikes, they're not like no kids, yeah, and it's so unsafe, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:27

It's so unsafe, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:30

I know they they yeah, they probably don't even pedal that thing, they'll just let it go, you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:36

Might as well get one electric wheelchair at the time, and probably it might be cheaper that way.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:40

Oh, guarantee, yeah, and they go for we just see no guy going down Cam Highway. I was like, oh yeah, kind of battery has in that thing where you trust it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:51

It reminds me, like, if if this keeps happening, it's gonna remind me of those people in uh the movie Wally. Oh yeah, people Wally, how they're all chunky and they're all in like wheelchairs and whatever. That's that's that's what we're gonna be. Yeah, you know, 100 years from now. It's gonna be.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:08

I get I get upset with those people at Disneyland. I was like, being fat ain't a fucking uh you're not handicapped, you just fat, like just they're little rascal scooters and they take you forever. And it's like you're getting in like faster into the rise because you fat.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:27

No, bro, it's not even Disneyland, dude. That happened to me at Walmart in town, like a couple weeks after surgery, and you know how I need a wheelchair, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:36

Yeah, and I just seen these these two people, they're not even like that big, like they're literally walking, and they grabbed the wheelchairs, and then the only wheelchair left was the one that was dead. Oh and I just had surgery, and then like really like really you're just fat, you're just lazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:56

You don't want to walk for groceries, yeah, I guess Americans. I tell you, we're lazy. Yeah, yeah, it's not fun that way.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:11

Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, we've been going for an hour and a half, and I could probably rap with you for another hour and a half. I think I would want you back on my show, especially as your career progresses, because I know this is not it, like you just scratched the surface, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I want to catch the middle and the next middle and the progression because I feel for one, like I said earlier, you need to be uh out there inspiring other women, and I feel very strongly about that because I have a daughter, and I know the kind of daughter and person and woman I would want her to be. And I'm blessed to have a lot of great uh females who females in my life that are strong, like my sister, Arya's coaches, um, and then also people out that come on my show that can actually be good role models to her or give her good insight on how it is to be a strong woman. I had Taylor Reese Mane on my show who explained how she became part of the Hawaii volleyball team, and she's playing more. Like, talk about opportunity. The one of the strong hitters got injured, and she's not playing for the rest of the year, and now Taylor Taylor Reese Money is playing a lot more, and she's taking the opportunity and she's doing super good. And it's like those are those kind of people that need to inspire girls, and yeah, they gotta talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:49

Yep, and there's something really going on, and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:53

And everybody gives a movie, everybody's living a dream or a story that could inspire somebody else. And thank you for coming on and sharing yours one.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:03

Yeah, thank you, Dad. Have fun, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:08

Shaka's for the cameras. We're out, shout out to Artist Group Network. Aloha.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:17

Aloha.