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Above the bridge
Episode 174 Megan Taniguchi Influencer / Caregiver
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Caregiving rarely arrives with a manual. When Megan Taniguchi’s grandmother survived a heart attack and then a stroke, Megan walked away from her job, moved in, and learned how to keep her family together—one blood pressure reading, one bath, one prayer at a time. We invited Megan back to share the unfiltered truth: the daily routines that stabilize fragile health, the medical skills she picked up from generous nurses and a rare doctor who took time to teach, and the mistakes that became lessons, like how an overstrict diet can send sodium and potassium spinning.
We dig into what dignity really means when care gets intimate, how tempers cool and repairs happen fast, and why a tight, three-person unit—grandma, mom, and son—can become a quiet fortress. Megan opens up about single motherhood, the logistics and cost of youth sports, and the creative fundraising it takes to show up on the sidelines without dropping the ball at home. Along the way, she describes how therapy, small social moments, and candid communication keep her from burning out, and how simple systems—pill organizers, shared calendars, visible checklists—turn chaos into a plan.
Faith threads through every scene. After years of drifting, Megan returned to church, chose re-baptism, and started talking to God daily. Not ritual for ritual’s sake, but a living relationship that reshaped how she sees responsibility, provision, and endurance. That shift didn’t erase the hard parts; it gave them meaning. The episode is a guide for caregivers, single parents, and anyone standing at the edge of a hard decision, offering practical caregiving tips, mental health tools, and a reminder to say thank you now, not later.
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Welcome Back: Why Caregiving
SPEAKER_03Okay, welcome to another edition of the Above the Bridge Podcast. I'm your host, Thaddeus Park. Just want to say thank you for tuning into the show. If this is your first time, please like, subscribe to whatever podcast platform you're on, and leave a comment. It matters. Thank you for checking us out. Aloha. Okay, this week my guest I'm bringing back to my show. She's one of my uh guests I had my first year actually doing this podcast. She's a content creator, but the reason why I wanted to have her back on my show is she's been caregiving for a family member, and this subject hits home with me because I've uh had to go through it, and watching her post about it and give some insight to it kind of inspired me to bring her back on the show. Megan Taniguchi, what's up, girl? Hi. I'm super stoked to have you back, and not just because of the topic, but you're like one of my first guests on my first year when I got this started, and I'm I'm kind of stoked to have you back.
SPEAKER_02No, thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so sorry. Okay, so um one of the reasons why, as I mentioned, I wanted to have you on my show this time is I know you've recently been being a caregiver to a family member, and that hits home with me. I had to do that for my mom. She was diagnosed with ALS. And being that I have a medical background as well as my dad, we were fortunate enough to be able to keep her at home and give her the care she needed so she could stay at the home and house that sh she built with love. And it was a trying time, but it was also very rewarding in certain aspects. And I kind of wanted to talk to you about that stuff and what you've been going through because it's something uh not many people talk about, let alone shared light, and you've been doing it on social media pretty cool. And how has everything been going on?
Stepping In After Heart Attack And Stroke
SPEAKER_01It's tiring, it's tiring. I'm not gonna lie. I think people see like one part of it on social media. Like I just got a message recently, and she's like, I don't know how you're holding it all together, you know. And in my head, I'm like, I hope I don't portray myself as holding it all together online because really I do not have it all together, you know. And I don't know, caregiving, it takes a toll, it takes a huge toll on you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I I've gone through it the same way. Um I felt like when when my mom got diagnosed and we realized, okay, we're gonna have to dig in and and be the caregivers. I've for me personally, I was ex not excited, but I felt like of course, like I couldn't see it going any other way. I couldn't it it it just seemed like a no-brainer, like okay, she's gonna come home, she can come home, we can give her the care. Of course, let's it'd be easy, not easy, but it'd be an easy decision to make. Yeah, um when did you kind of take on the role of being the uh the primary caregiver for your grandma?
SPEAKER_01So she had a heart attack, and then I thought I was gonna be able to return back home, like with her like short-term care, but then she had a stroke right after that. So that was kind of when she went back in, and I told myself, okay, like we were in the she was in the ICU, and I was like, Okay, there's no shot of me going back to work, I'm not going back to work. Um, then me and my auntie kind of had a discussion. My auntie's a lot older than me, but we're kind of like the only two people that's kind of around for my grandma.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01So we kind of like sat down and talked about it, and I said, you know what, when it comes down to it, I'll just quit my job. You know, she's older, so I thought, like, this is my time to like take over, you know, like okay, it's my time to, it's my duty to do this, you know. You're going you she went back to school for her own degree, and I said, I'll just make the sacrifice this time. Like, it's my turn, I'm gonna do it. So yeah, I had to quit my job, and it was hard because then you gotta think like finances too, you know, like how are we gonna do this? But it's worked its way out, so oh, that's good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so you're pretty much the primary caregiver for your grandma, and she she lives with you, or or you live with her, or I live with her. Oh, okay, yeah, and you pretty much are the one though, that you're with her 24-7.
SPEAKER_0124-7 all the time, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, since you took on this role, what have you learned getting into it, or what did you realize you didn't know?
Learning Medical Skills At Home
SPEAKER_01Oh, there's a lot, there's so much. Like, you don't I've learned a lot and uh through a lot. The main thing is like she's had really great um like her doctors when she goes in, and I'm so grateful for that because you rarely find doctors that will sit down with the family and have a whole conversation and make sure that like you're being understood and you're what your questions are being heard. So when she got admitted every single time, there was one doctor, Dr. Bernhard at polymomi, and the best doctor ever, and she explained everything. She even taught me like how because grandma has heart failure, so she taught me even how to check for the crackles, you know, like because normally you just go off of weight if they gain so much weight and they have water retention.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, but she was like, I'm gonna teach you with a stethoscope how to check an extra step of how to check for those crackles if she does have fluid and it's not showing up on the scale or it's not showing up in her ankles. So just stuff like that. She just had really great people around that would help me out. And you learn a lot. You learn like how important blood pressure is, how important oxygen levels are, you know, like blood glucose, you know, like holy moly. And then she got admitted one time because um her sodium was, I was so strict on her diet that her sodium was too low, and I didn't even know that was a thing, you know.
SPEAKER_03No electrolyte electrolyte off.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so she ended up in the hospital for low sodium, high potassium, and I was like, because I was giving her too much potassium, I guess, in her diet, you know. So, like, you learn stuff like that through like trial and error, I guess. Yeah, and you have no medical background prior to none, and that's why her doctors and the nurses are shocked, like at how much I know now, but you just learn throughout the whole thing, you have to learn.
SPEAKER_03Well, talking to you from before, you definitely taught yourself a lot of stuff just with social media and and editing and all that stuff. I figured that's probably the case with this or everything else in life you do. I see you do DIY stuff and all that, so it's like I'm you're someone that can sponge stuff and teach yourself how to do things, and yeah, this is a great thing to learn, you know what I mean? Like when it comes down to it. What um has has your relationship changed with your grandma since you took on this responsibility?
SPEAKER_01No, I don't know. I don't we've always been close our whole lives. We got a little bit more closer through caregiving, but no, I mean, we're still as close. It hasn't really changed, changed much. I I mean I get a lot more thank yous and you know, like stuff like that. She's very grateful for me doing this, but we've been close pretty much our whole lives.
Boundaries, Patience, And Family Dynamics
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SPEAKER_01I think it's I don't mean it's been normal for us because I only from 2023 became her full-time caregiver, but before then, even when my papa was alive, she went in. Um, this was kind of a serious one. We almost lost her this time, but she had 90 degree or 90% of her body burnt, 30 degree burns.
SPEAKER_03Oh wow.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, this then I when I tell you this lady has been through it, she's been she's a hammer. Yes. And I tell her, I'm like, you want to talk to me about God having a reason? He had a reason for you, my friend. But but yeah, from then, even like when I was in my um early 20s, I was always helping out with her. It wasn't at to this extreme of full-time care, but I mean, I've seen everything from early on, so I think she kind of is just used to it, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, what would be kind of like your typical day on the norm being a caregiver?
SPEAKER_01It is timed out because she is like a time freak, like oh okay, has to be on the dot, regimented, okay, yes, and if it's not, I bought her like a button, which sometimes like I have a love and hate relationship with it. Oh, but yeah, so nor normally I have to feed her before I take AJ to school. When I come back home, she's still kind of eating breakfast, and then it's um she has to do her hygiene and then bath time. And I probably have like an hour, hour and a half in between that, like of free time before it's lunchtime. And then she'll have her lunch, watch her TV. It depends like if we have like doctor's appointments at the or not. Like those are the days where it's a little bit more hectic because it's a lot, and then she has like her time of when she has to have dinner. So dinner has to be done by like 4:30. Sometimes I can get away with five. And yeah, well, yeah. Then we have morning meds. She takes she does her her afternoon meds, and then I do her evening meds at around 715-ish.
SPEAKER_03Do you guys ever butt heads or it's been kind of smooth?
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SPEAKER_01Oh, all the time. Like, like I always say and I always remind people because I think people see like, like I said, like the good side on social media. They don't see like when I lose my patience or when she loses her patience or when we're not getting along, you know. But it happens. We're human beings, you know, and like when I tell you elderly is worse than a child, they kind of are because they're so set in their ways that like they don't want to hear it. You know, it's their way or the highway. So on those days, yeah, we kind of do like butt heads, but I always tell her, like, grandma, I have like your best interest in mind. Like, we have to like meet in the middle sometimes, you know.
Dignity, Humility, And Intimate Care
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I definitely, I definitely understand that, and I think that comes to to be said, I I would go through some moments where I would get frustrated, and then I would feel like I'm not being a good son, or I'm like I'm feel I'm feeling like, oh man, I just wish this would be done, or I wish like, and then I was like, wait, what am I thinking? And then it I I prayed a lot too at the time, but it I realized like that's human nature. Yeah, like frustration is human nature, you're put in a situation you weren't prepared for, yeah, or didn't know was coming, and it's like here, go. And then you just gotta keep every day is a different day, and you're gonna come with up. Um you're gonna come up with whole new different uh obstacles and trials and tribulations that you didn't even know was gonna be a thing. And I felt some guilt some days, like for getting frustrated and maybe voicing my frustrations, but I kind of came to peace with it and realized as human and like you said, you have the best interests in heart, but did did you ever feel guilt in that kind of in that kind of aspect?
SPEAKER_01All the time, like we've gotten into I'm very stubborn. We're like, if I know I'm right, I'm not gonna talk to you until like you talk to me, you know?
SPEAKER_03But that's every girl. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01No, probably, but like so. Before when we used to before all this has had happen, like when we used to get into fights, I would let it drag out. Now it's like when we butt heads, I'll walk away and like cool off a little bit. I'm like, okay, like come on, get it together. You're doing this for a reason, and then I'll go back and we'll make good now. So it's a quicker, like I don't know how to say it. We just I'm I'm over the fact of like, okay, I got angry, I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna, we're gonna make good, you know, before we especially before bed. I don't like arguing before bed. I I don't like that, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03What has um some of the biggest obstacles been doing this and and challenges?
SPEAKER_01Uh I think for me, the biggest obstacle is like I think the fact that I am a single mom. So when when people look at me and they're like, oh, you're sacrificing a lot, you're sacrificing a lot, I think they forget like that includes AJ too, you know? Yeah, because I can't just get up and leave. We can't just it can't just be like somebody call me, oh you want to go do this, and I go up and you know, we go and get something done, or we go to the mall. He can't just be like, oh mom, you want to go to the mall because we can't just leave her at home by herself. Yeah, so I think that's just the biggest thing for me is there's a lot of guilt when it comes to that because we can't just pick up and leave like a normal person would, you know, if something came up, like we have this responsibility at home, and yeah, I think that's just the biggest obstacle.
SPEAKER_03I definitely relate to that. I remember camping, and I would come home real fast, change my mom's diaper, and then go back up. Yeah, and it's it's it would be a hassle. I mean, it's it's out of the way, but yeah, I never took it as like it was just oh, I just gotta do it. So I can be mad about it or I can just do it and then go back to what I was. Um, how has it been with your son in this situation?
Daily Routines And Medication Management
SPEAKER_01I think he's gotten used to it, you know, like it's become his new normal too. Um, but I feel like this will help him. Like watching me do this for my grandma has taught him a lot, especially like when I've gotten sick, he's had to kind of like step up and help out. And when I watch him on the camera, because there's a ring camera in her room, I'm like watching and I'm like, this is what I want my son to learn. This is something that I would want him to learn in this life, you know.
SPEAKER_03Above all, is this yeah, because he's gonna be taking care of you that's I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_01He always tells me this thing, mom, I would not wipe your butt. I was like, Okay, whatever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I said that and then I had to do that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's uh that's cool to see, and at some point that's good parenting, right? Like when your child gotta step up, if he does, then that shows like okay, I instilled those values in him. I think for my dad, it was something that he really took pride in that uh uh my sister and myself stepped up, and that's something he said at my mom's funeral that he was very proud of. And for my dad to say that he's proud of anything I've done in life, that was pretty huge for me. And I feel like when a family member something happens, is that's when you have to step up. That's that's when you gotta kind of play the role, especially a parent or some like someone above you. You you probably gotta return the love that they showed you your whole life. I definitely uh understand uh how taking care of an older person is way harder to take care of a younger person just because you cannot for one, you can't lick them. Kids, you can't lick if they get and uh they don't have a they have an opinion. Old older people have an opinion, and like you said, they have a set way of doing things. Yeah, I realize keeping along their personal regimen kind of helps, and it kind of helps them stay in routine with their everyday life of how it was prior to whatever happened. Is that the same for you, or like you're full off the schedule of what your grandma used to be doing?
SPEAKER_01No, she's she's this is pretty much been her schedule. Maybe like okay, the only thing that changed is probably like the time slots before she used to have dinner at like 3:30. But when she would go to the hospital, she learned like they're not gonna serve her dinner until 5:30. So like times kind of got pushed back, which honestly I'm down for because before it was a little too close where I didn't have really much time in between, you know.
SPEAKER_03What I noticed from some of your posts is you implement God into a lot of your post and everything about what you're doing. How has the relationship with uh God either changed since this happened, and how much do you lean on him for for strength?
Guilt, Repair, And Cooling Off
SPEAKER_01Oh, I lean on him. I talk to God every single day, every day, multiple times a day. This guy hears from me multiple times a day, but I think like so. I actually I don't know how to say this. I got baptized again because I was baptized as a baby, but I got rebaptized because I didn't really have a relationship with God for a long time, especially after my papa passed. I went down the road of like uh crystals and the universe and manifestation and all that, right? We all did it, we all did it, yeah, but there was nothing there, you know, there was nothing there, and then my friend was like, why don't we just go back to church, you know? And I was like, why not? You know, like I haven't done it in a long time. And we did it, and then I ended up finding a small group. I ended up getting rebaptized, and that was like the first time in my life where I felt connected to anything. On top of that, like going through a lot of stuff, I was like financially struggling. I was struggling being a single mom. I honestly had really, really bad thoughts to the point where like I really just didn't want to be here. And not until I like surrendered my life to God did my whole life change. And I'm not talking like I was a millionaire, I made a whole bunch of money, I you know, like I got blessings from here. Trust me, that's not what had happened. But like I had something and more of an understanding of like, it's not just me in this, you know. Like, if you if I really look back on my life, who who carried you through all this? And then my grandma shared a story after her stroke. She shared to me the story of Job and like how he went through all of these trials and tribulations, and how in the end, God gave him way more than what he had before. And so I opened up my Bible and I'm like reading the story of Job, and I'm like, holy moly, this literally feels like my life, you know, like I'm getting hit left and right and whatever, but yeah, it's definitely strengthened my relationship. It's kept me going. And God may have not given me all my wants and needs. But he's definitely like he's carried me through this whole situation of being a caregiver through my this whole situation of being a single mom. He has sustained my life, you know. Like I still have our house, I'm still able to pay our bills. And like I said, I may not be a millionaire or like be the most famous person in the world, but the fact that I have sustained this life for as long as I have and been able to keep the house and pay my bills and be able to caregive and be a single mom. That's God. All of that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, for sure. Did you ever resent him for putting yours like putting yourself in this situation? I know I okay. That's kind of I was the same. Like I I've to this day, I never felt like, oh God, why you do that for like my my mom was a devote Catholic her whole life, went to church every Sunday, like lived it, like she was it, and you can do that to her. Like I never felt that. I I felt for some reason, ah, this is his will. Like, I don't know. I just never felt resentment. And I think it definitely got me closer to him. And to be honest, right now in my life, I'm feeling I'm being pulled more towards him. Like things have been popping up where it's like, oh shoot, like that's something. Okay, that can't be a coincidence. And and it's I'm I'm not like a crossroads where I'm gonna go the wrong way. I'm just feel that I'm being pulled in a certain way. And one of my close friends got all into church, and he's somebody I promoted with his name is Hansen.
SPEAKER_00And oh yes, I saw he got re baptized. Oh, he got baptized, right?
Single Motherhood And Caregiving Tradeoffs
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and he's I mean, even today, he he's sending me stuff to check out churches and and his church, and I've had conversations with him about God probably more in the last year than I've had with him in the last decade and a half. And seeing how God worked his uh love into his life and how happy he is and how different. Where he he wasn't a mean dude or anything like that, it's just he he has more of a glow, like something's different. Yeah, and I've been magnetically being pulled in that direction, and sometimes I mean sometimes I'll listen, sometimes I don't, or I I don't understand until later. But how do you be receptive to him speaking? Because it's not like you can come down, like, hey, you gotta do this, or it's like you you're you're being shown signs or or read something, or like is there's always some kind of way where you kind of know that's him. Like, how has it how easy or hard has it been to be able to be receptive to what he's trying to get you to do?
SPEAKER_01I think now it's easier, it's a lot easier since I have a relationship with God. Like before, so I was raised Catholic and it just wasn't clicking. I was just like, it's not clicking for me the way we do mass, the way that I'm taught. Just everything wasn't clicking for me, and not until like I learned like I had no relationship with God. Like it was X, Y, Z. Do it, do the list, check off the list, and you're gonna go to heaven, you know. But that's not even what it was about, you know. So now that like I have a relationship with God, I understand like what's what He's trying to do in my life. It's more of like a okay, I'm gonna sit back, I'm gonna let you do what you have to do, and pretty much it. That's why I don't really have resentment in this role. I think if you were to talk to me before all of this, I probably would have had a different mindset with it.
Modeling Care For The Next Generation
SPEAKER_03That is wow, you definitely I can relate to that. I grew up Catholic too. I went Catholic soon, I went Damien, and my mom would force me to go church every Sunday, and to me, it was very ritualistic. I wasn't getting any productive thing out of it. It was stand up, Neil, stand up, Neil, sing a song, go get your bread, go throw your quarter in the basket, and then we can leave and go get an icy or something. But I guarantee I didn't have a relationship with God because of that, going to church and all that. What it did teach me was right and wrong. I guarantee I didn't listen at the time, but it put roots and seeds in my brain, and I knew the Bible, and I knew the logic behind what Jesus did and why he did it and how, and all that comes back to me. Like I can, like I said, I can talk to Hansen and I I know the Bible, I know the stories. I like what you just said, Job. I know that it's not because I wouldn't read it, it's because I went to Catholic school the whole time. But um, as I became older seeking out a relationship with God, it was more now I'm coming to Him, I'm not being forced to go to this building and sit up, stand up Neo, not saying anything bad about Catholic religion, but I just feel like it's like you said, checking off all those boxes. You gotta do this, this, this, and this, and this. And there's there's no uh person, person-to-person interaction with God. It's like I'm doing what the guy in the robe's telling me to do, and yeah, I'm not connected to God, and the more I seeked it out, the more I started to realize like, okay, there's something personal about this, yeah, and it's a one-on-one thing, and and honestly, that's kind of why I'm reluctant to go back to a church because I feel like that might take away my one-on-one with God because that's how I was brought up in a church, and then it's like, oh, get all these people, then how can it be one-on-one? Or yeah, I went to like Word of Life or one of those other ones, and I swear to God, I was like on production, it was like the ban and lights, and it's like a stage, and the pastor comes out with the microphone. Not saying it's a bad thing, is it's relatable to a lot of people, just for me, it was too much. I'm like, this can't be what I this is not how I connect to God. Like, I can go grab my cup of coffee and go walk around the neighborhood and feel way more connected and be able to talk to him that way. Um, sorry, I didn't mean to go off on God, it was just but um, like I said, seeing the signs and kind of realizing this is the path that he wants you to go on is for me, it's kind of getting easier to understand that okay, now this is where he wants me to do before we're like I wouldn't even be receptive and just die and do things my way, or ah, this is what he wants. And I always make the joke like you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans for the future because he's like, Yeah, right. I got that's what you think is gonna happen. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I want to take this small break to let you know about iRep Detail Supply, they're your one-stop shop superstore for everything you need to detail your vehicle. They have a store in Temple Valley Shopping Center, they also have one in Las Vegas. If not, go to their website, iRepDailsupply.com. If you use promo code ATBPod upon checkout, you'll get 15% off your entire purchase order. I would say go down to the store, they have an Unreal bunch of guys working there, they know exactly what uh products they have that can help you out the most. iRep Detail Supply. Aloha. Balancing everything with your son and being a caregiver, like how does a give and take work? I know your son plays sports and uh guarantee you want to be there for everything. And uh for one thing, I do know you're a great mom. So trying to balance that out. How how has that been working and how do you make it work?
SPEAKER_01It's hard, it's so hard. Sports is like a whole investment, it is so like when he has like these little breaks in between, I'm like, oh thank goodness, you know. But we're back in it now. He wants to play pylon, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, team meetings and then just like figuring out what's gonna happen for this upcoming season. It's a lot, it's a lot, especially with grandma's schedule, you know, like when they have like a last-minute meeting because a lot of things with sports is last minute, they're gonna let the parents know, like the day before, like, okay, we get meeting at five o'clock the next day. And that's rough because I can't be like, oh, sorry, can't make it, you know. Like, I I try to make everything for him regardless. Um, so when it comes down to like games, uh, I have an understanding with my auntie that like I'm just gonna hand her the schedule when it when the time does come, and she'll sit with grandma so that I can make all of AJ's games. So last season I made all of his games.
Faith Reawakened And Re-Baptism
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's super yeah, and with what it's it's football, I assume, right? And uh for for some reason, sports nowadays, which is different from when I was young, is you pick one sport and that thing is year-round. Like I it's before you like we'd have football and you would have basketball and you have baseball. Now like pick one because that's all you can do. It's a trip. My daughter uh plays volleyball, and I swear we'll go from club season would start right after school season, so she'd start in August for school, it would get done in October. She'd have a week break and go straight into club, and that'll go straight all the way till July, and then it's back to school season. I'm thinking, like, oh, and then now she's she's gonna play flag football because they have that in high school now, yeah. Which I've never we never had that before, like girls' football, no, but um she's trying to balance that out with her volleyball, and I'm thinking like like as a parent, I I'm having a hard enough time doing that. I'm thinking, like, for you, like, how do you it would just be a lot? I think having a schedule and having help is probably needed, but I think at the end of the day, your son is gonna know that you're there and made it happen. To be honest, at at some point he might not be as um appreciative because I wasn't. And when I was growing up, my my parents were in the stands for everything I did, like football, basketball, baseball, anything I did, um, even competing in martial arts, they would be in the stands cheering, hoping I don't get knocked out. But um, I never appreciated it as much until I seen them doing it for my daughter. And of course, I'm doing it for my daughter, and she probably doesn't appreciate it, but it made me appreciate like oh, my my dad them were there every time, like they show up, show up, that's all you gotta do is show up, and they were there every I could be in Aloha Stadium and look in the stands, and I can pick out my parents, and they're there, and um at some point your son's gonna appreciate it, and I think uh because of your example doing that, he's probably gonna be the same way for his kids, and I think that's that's the uh good parenting I was talking about earlier, how he is with your grandma, you know. I mean, it's it's something that's gonna be passed down. I hope so. I hope so. Plus, too, you like see him do good, right? You're just cheering them on, and you like see action too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, honestly, football is very, very fun. It's a very fun because he used to play baseball his whole life. Um, um, I mean, I used to love watching baseball too, but football's a whole different beast compared to baseball. You can say it, baseball is boring. I didn't want to see it. Yeah, I like baseball, it just it gets long, and when the team's losing, it's like, okay, guys, let's wrap this up and let's go home.
SPEAKER_03Mercy Rule. Yeah, we can go home.
SPEAKER_01It's like hold the pair, the parents is a whole nother thing to it. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh man, I didn't think it was like this, you know. But it's where does he play for? Um, Wanaloa. Oh, okay. He's what grade?
SPEAKER_01He is no 10th grade. He's gonna be 11th. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So he's gonna he's gonna be vars. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's super cool. I think that's oh yeah, that's gonna be fun when varsity is a whole nother level. My daughter, my daughter got to play varsity this past year volleyball, and I was like, Oh, this now this is you're in the big leagues now. Yeah, and she's only a sophomore, but she uh she got picked to play vars, and she she didn't play as much because she's still there's seniors above her, but just watching her get in there and she's like, Oh, like these girls are huge, and they're whipping balls at her. I'm just like, move, do something, like it's anxiety. But football is a football. What is that?
SPEAKER_01How's the cost on volleyball?
SPEAKER_03Oh, club?
SPEAKER_01Oh, not like the cost of everything.
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SPEAKER_03I literally am about to sell blood for this next trip. We're doing we just got back from Vegas. We come you ever in Kane Kailu? You can see us slanging donuts on the side of the road. We just canceled this weekend because it's gonna rain. But we've done everything. I sell uh Super Bowl blocks, we did uh pickled onions at in front of Walmart. We're doing Krispy Kreme. We went, we're working concession at UH. Like, oh, I'm doing everything because yeah, it ain't cheap. And our club is one of the not as expensive as others, but oh man, it like it's like on mortgage, yeah. It's like you can play volleyball, like you like you gotta work, you gotta do the work because if I'm working to make you play, then you gotta uh you gotta be able to to meet it halfway, and she is. I yeah, and seeing her grow and develop and do things I've never thought possible that she would do, like she she's tiny, she's not even five feet, and she's a little firecracker. And watching her play has been my my biggest passion. Watching her do her passion has been my greatest uh pastime now. And yeah, we just went on this trip, and um, there's certain things she does on the court, which reminds me of of me as an athlete when I was younger, and there's something she does where it's like oh she's a way better athlete than I ever was. Like, I don't even know. But uh there's moments where made me realize I'm doing things right as a parent. Like the this past trip we went on, we we just got back this week. Um she got dosed right in the head. Like a girl um went up, spiked the ball, and it caught her in her head. And the other the other team were celebrating, and I was why I was sitting like behind the corner, I'm watching her, and I got a little bit mad that they were celebrating, but I was watching her, and she got up, like she kind of just went like that, got back in her little huddle and locked in again, and like it didn't phase her. And I it made me proud that she had that inner strength. Cause I seen girls get hit in the head and it's a whole big thing, and they're crying and all this, and like she just shook it off like nothing. And I it made me proud, not like it made me proud that the things that I'm teaching her as a parent is working, if that makes sense. Yeah, sorry, I would ramble about that shit. That no, no, no, no. Volleyball is like, yeah, like you said, it's expensive, but yeah, how is it with uh football? Pylon ain't cheap, and then football, you got gear, you gotta buy gear that's not cheap.
SPEAKER_01Well, let me tell you, we got the prices, and I almost wanted to like cry. I wanted to cry, and not even just that, like the kids. It's like, why are you gonna show why are you gonna show these kids like the best of the best, man? You know they don't want the best of the best, yeah. So like they show them three different helmets, and of course the kids want the smart helmet, you know, like but it's like oh man, that smart helmet's expensive, so yeah, but you got the gear and then like the trips, and it's like buddy, you so you selling blood too. I'm gonna have yeah, I'm gonna have to because holy holy moly, man. It's crazy. I don't know how some people are doing it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and it's like you got, yeah. I'm super like I always try to like like for you, you probably do the same way. It's like you're gonna want to give your kid the best, and the best, yep. So you're gonna figure it out. Yeah, you gotta figure it out, and then but then you're like watching them not take care of their shit, and then it's like you bet you better get your shit out of the rain, or you like yeah, put away your c your gear or whatever. Yeah, so or I bought Aria like this volleyball net kind of thing, and she hardly uses it, and it's like I think um that comes with being a parent, though. I think, yeah, especially a parent that that cares and is involved. So, when does pylon start? Pretty soon, or you're in it already.
SPEAKER_01Pretty soon.
SPEAKER_03Well, they've been practicing for a while already, and they they travel, those those teams travel too, right?
SPEAKER_01I know I didn't know that. I just found this would be his first time, so I just found out and I'm like, holy moly, kid, when's this trip happening? You know, like oh man, and they give you like the price of how much it might be per kid, and uh, I don't know, they gotta go make these kids go wash cars or something because help the parents out. This is a lot.
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Juggling Sports Schedules And Care
SPEAKER_03That's the thing. Like, our kids are slinging donuts on the side of the road, and yeah, and then they'll give you attitude like oh, I don't he said we better sell them donuts because you want to go on this trip, yeah. And then when you're on the trip, it's like, oh, you better not lose. We didn't slang donuts for coming over here, you better it's better win anyway. Like for um doing what you do as a parent and a caregiver emotionally, how has it been on this journey for you? Like, how how much strength do you have and how much times you just lose it or break down?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I lose it about every once a day, you know? Like I feel like a but AJ has come to a point where like he'll talk to me about it if he sees me kind of like losing my patience a little bit too much, he'll be like, mom, just calm down, you know. So I mean, I feel bad because I have days where like they see the worst of me because it does it takes a toll. It's like I have two people like always on me, and then I'm thinking to myself, Well, if I wasn't here, what would you guys do? You know, like because they depend on me for everything, like the littlest things, and I'm getting mom and kanani and like just all the time, you know. And at a certain point, you kind of like are like, holy moly, I'm getting pulled two different ways by two different people throughout the whole day, and well, what about me, you know? So yeah, it's hard, it's hard, but we're we're surviving. We all three gotta work together sometimes. We all gotta talk to each other.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy. I relate to you a lot. I've had those same moments. Um, on the flip side, what would be more of the rewarding moments that you've been having? And and like on on a positive note, what what what was a more positive aspect to the situation you're in and what's been rewarding going through it?
SPEAKER_01I think the most rewarding part is like me, AJ, and grandma have become super close, like we're a unit, you know, and it's it's a to me, it's a beautiful thing to see be especially with AJ, because AJ's lost a lot of people in his life, you know, and I've lost people, and we've become so tight knit together, like just the three of us, that I I love that. I don't know how to explain it. It's just like we got each other, you know, and we know we got each other. And if yeah, it just I don't know. I I love the fact that. That he knows, like he's very protective over me and grandma, you know, and I don't know. I just it's the relationship that the three of us have. That's super the reward.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's gonna be interesting once you get a girlfriend and he tries to bring him around.
SPEAKER_01Like, oh, he has a girlfriend. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Haven't met her yet, but he's probably on purpose.
SPEAKER_01It is, I think it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's kind of cool. Yeah, I that's a that's a cool aspect, and once you're put in the trenches, you rely on each other, and that's gonna build strength. And building that together, the actions speak more than anything else. And when you are in that situation, you're relying on each other, and you realize, oh, I can rely on you, we are relying on each other. It it's that's a bond that's super strong, and that's yeah, that's definitely rewarding. That's it, that's a good um rewarding moment going through it. There's always a silver lining. Okay, I want to take this moment to shout out our sponsors, medicinal mushrooms Hawaii. They're a locally based medicinal mushroom company here in Hawaii, and they have five tintures of extracted mushrooms. They have lion's mane, chaga, turkey tail, red raishi, and the newest one quarticeps. If you go on their website, medmushroomhigh.com, you can uh learn about what each uh medicinal properties these mushrooms have. I take all of them religiously every single day. Medmushroomhigh.com. If you decide you want to buy a mushroom tincher, use promo code ATB Pod Upon. Check out all capitals, you'll get 45% off your entire purchase. Medmushroomhigh.com. Aloha. How do you take care of your own mental health going through this? Because I know at some points before you were struggling with that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_01Well, talking to God every day helps a lot. Um, and I go to therapy now. I see a therapist once uh it was once every two weeks, and now it's like once a month. But it's to me, it's good. Like I have uh a best friend that we'll call each other once a week and like talk for hours, and I love that. I love that we still have that friendship, but I don't want to like put my whole load on her, you know. So like I see a therapist and I get it all out. Everything that I've been through for the month, I just purge it all out. Yeah, I purge it all out, and I feel better, you know. Like, yeah, I just feel better after that.
SPEAKER_03That's super cool. I was fortunate to have a few friends. I had my friend Jaren and uh Hoppa Boy, and certain people in my life where when I was taking care of my mom, they would call me out, hey, let's go have a beer at the park, and those two hours that's I was in the moment laughing and not thinking about anything else, and it was just a recharge. Like, oh, my battery got recharged, and now I can um now I can go back to what I'm doing, and and it was it was beneficial. Do you ever get uh free time for yourself? Or is it oh I'm gonna go to the bar and have a drink with my friend or go dinner or none of that.
SPEAKER_01No, the the most time I get to myself is probably when I go to the gym or like when AJ's in football, like you said, like it's like a recharge. That was the only time I felt like that is when I would go out to his games and like um engage with other parents, you know, talk because I don't get that at home, you know, like and you feel normal again. I don't even know how to explain, but you just feel like a normal person again, you know, like holy moly, this is what I needed, and then you come back home and it's like you said, it's back to reality. But yeah, when AJ had his games, that was my favorite time to just talk to people, you know.
SPEAKER_03It's like, oh, the game's over already. Wait, yeah, yeah. Um, what advice would you give someone um if they found out they needed to care for a loved one or family member?
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SPEAKER_01I think my biggest piece of advice, because I'm hard, I'm hard at this. If you have other people involved, ask for help. Do not take the whole load on yourself. Like my auntie will help here and there, but I remember thinking to myself, like, my main thought was always like, I got this, I got this, I got this, I got this, you know. But really, I was struggling, you know. So like I have a hard time asking for help. And me and her ended up like talking, talking it out, and she's like, you know, call me whenever you do need the help or whatever. So for me, it's just like if you have that support, don't act like you have to carry it all on your own, you know, like ask for help, get the help if you need the help. Um, so yeah, that's that would be my biggest piece of advice. And if you don't, then I mean make sure you get the resources to get the help, you know. But then it's hard, it's so hard in Hawaii because I don't think we have too much too many things in place for caregivers. Yeah, you know, like when I went down the road of like having to find out this and that and X, Y, and Z. And then everybody thinks you get paid being a caregiver. And the truth is you don't.
SPEAKER_03So if you did, uh somebody always loses.
SPEAKER_01And you just look at like the things we have in place down here, and we really have nothing. We have nothing in place for caregiving. I don't think. Like, I know we have that one where they'll pay you like a certain amount, but you still have to go to work. And to me, it's like, can't I really be on a full-time caregiver, then, right? You still gotta make so many hours a week and you're gonna get a small thing, you might as well not. So I don't know. I I feel like Hawaii needs a lot more. We need something in place for caregiving because we don't have it, so we don't got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Talking to you earlier today, you kind of mentioned that a lot of people don't take on the responsibility. And for me, it was super easy to be like, oh, mom's sick, we're gonna take care of her, it's all good, like we'll do it. And for you, it was the same way, it wasn't a thought of like, oh, I gotta do this. It's like, oh yup, we're gonna, we're good. This is what we're gonna do. And um, you kind of mentioned like people were tripping out, like, oh, you really gonna do that? It's like, of course, like that it doesn't everybody, and the reality of it is not many people are super receptive to just take on that when for me and uh as as well as you it's been pretty easy, a simple decision to make. Um, why do you think that is?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I I really don't, I mean, the only thing that I can think of of it ever being a hard decision is finances, you know. To me, that's the only thing I could think of is like maybe they can't do it, maybe they financially can't do it. But then I look at my situation and I'm like, I couldn't financially do it either, and I did it, but I have no, I don't know. And it when the nurse did tell me that, you know, it it makes you sad because then you're like there's a lot of people out there that go without this type of care, you know, like yeah, I don't know, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um how have you changed as a person being put in this situation?
SPEAKER_01I don't know, I would say I become selfless, but I feel like I was already a pretty selfless person before. But it's definitely humbled me a lot, like having to do this. I didn't know the extreme, or like you said, like when you first it's like an excitement, and then like but when you get into it and when like time has passed after a while, you kind of learn, like, holy moly, this is what I got myself into, you you know. So it's very humbling. It it really is, and you learn a lot, and I've learned to give myself a lot of grace, my grandma a lot of grace. I've learned to have a lot of patience because sometimes I don't have it, you know. Like just the other night, like she spilled her water, right? And it was late at night. So you hear, I hear the bell ringing, and I go and I check on her, and she's like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, Grandma, what are you sorry for? You know, like uh, but I because I know she feels bad, right? She got me up to go clean up her her whole mess. But in moments like that, she's like, Oh, thank you for being patient with me. And I'm like, I mean, you have no choice at that time. You gotta be patient. What's the point of me yelling at you? You know why you split water on the ground? So yeah, you learn in moments like that, like hey, they mess up, you gotta just help.
Emotional Toll And Micro-Breakdowns
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think with that too. Um, for me, I I've learned that patience was huge, and I I've learned appreciation. It was like, oh, some point my mom did these things for me when I was a kid, and and I relied on her for everything, and now she is at a point in her life where um she had to rely on on me and my sister and my dad for everything. And to to make it as easy as possible, I learned that I could make it easy for her if I if I um did things a certain way and and made sure she didn't feel like guilt or anything like that. Because at some point it's like, oh, I don't want to make you guys do that. There's no way that was their choice, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I think for me the biggest blessing, and this is what I wanna share with people listening, and something that is probably the biggest silver lining in my whole situation was I knew at some point she was gonna be in heaven and she wasn't gonna be here anymore. So I had a fortunately I had a timeline uh to know it was gonna be coming shortly, so I could explain to her and tell her and let her know how much she did for me, how much I appreciated, how much every little thing mattered. I was able to tell her these things to her face and have her know how much all of it meant to me and how much her parenting influenced my life, and I got to tell her basically how I felt. And a lot of people don't have that opportunity. Uh like at some point, like my friend, his mom um just passed away from from a heart attack, and he never got that. And as shitty as a situation I was in with my mom, that was something that I could uh appreciate. Like, she got I got to tell her how I felt. Yeah, and if you if you uh are in a situation like that, or anybody listening, like I would be adamant to let your loved one know, like, oh, this is the things that matter to me. This is how much I appreciate you, this is how much I love you, this is how you impacted me and and how much you mean to me. And you it was something that I'll always take away. Like, I'm super grateful for for having been able to do that. And wasn't easy, you know what I mean? And it was emotional, but she heard it and she went before she left, she she knew, and yep, yeah, it's been it's been um it's been super cool. I think um with you, you have opportunities, and I'm pretty sure you'll probably be the same way or already done it, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I've already done it all the time. I think it's because like like with my papa, it was so sudden, like out of nowhere. And so I never got to tell him how I truly felt about him as my parent, and I live with that guilt still to this day. You know, I feel like man, like I was telling you how I felt while you were on life support, and that was a shitty feeling that I had to do it that way. So with grandma, it's a lot different. I learned my lesson, and it's like tell them now, you know. Like you said, you have to tell the people who loved you that you love them, you know, like don't wait, don't wait on that kind of stuff.
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SPEAKER_03Yeah, that makes sense. And um, one of your posts, I I wrote down a quote that you put out and oh, it hit. It said, Love is not um love is not about what is um convenient or easy, it's about showing up for the people who show up for you. It's about honoring the sacrifices that were made. Honoring the sacrifices that were made in the that is quiet and unnoticed moments when no one's watching. Oh shit, that's right. Um that was it, and that was uh that quote made me feel my mom when I read it, and I was like, that's exactly how a child should should feel when they're taking care of someone they love. And I was like, Oh, that was uh that one hit hard, and I definitely wanted to read that on the show. And yeah, I think love is easy when everything's cool and glorious and everything's positive, and um when it's hard, that's when the real love shows, and that's when that's when the real ones step up, that's when the real um that's when real love is is kind of uh presented. And yeah, I think uh your grandma knows it, like you said, your son probably knows it and sees it and feels it. And I think uh you being an example on social media and you got a lot of people watching, it's uh probably affecting people in a positive way that you don't even know because um you're putting yourself out there, and I'm sure you might have negative feedback or stupid people making comments, but it's yeah, the the thing is just keep doing what you're doing and it it matters. Like for me, watching your shit matters, it mattered to me, and it's relatable, and it it someone could be just about to struggle and decide if they're gonna do it or not, and see you, and it could push them to the to the edge where it's like, yep, I'm gonna take on this because Megan's doing it, and I think putting your situation out there is uh something different. It's it's something that people need to see, and I wish kind of wish I did that in small moments when I was going through it just to inspire other people. So that's pretty cool that you're doing it.
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SPEAKER_01I don't know how easy it is, but I mean you gotta because to me, it's like oh my gosh, life isn't pretty, you know, and we don't talk about it enough, and it's there's uglies and there's mistakes and there's things that don't get shown, so why not talk about it? Because we all go through it, you know. I don't know, that's how I feel about it.
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SPEAKER_03Well, your social media is pretty interesting. You you you put like before it was a lot more like hard, totally different, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's totally different, you know. And but I grew I grew up, things changed, life changed, my life changed.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. But you're still you put put out silly stuff too, and I think that yeah, you're that's one of your gifts, like you're relatable um to to everyday people, and and you do it in a great way, like you're not afraid to make jokes, you're not afraid to show your struggles, you're not afraid to show yourself crying for certain stuff. And I think that's one of the gifts God gave you is to share yourself and be an example. Not many people can do that, you know what I mean? Yeah, well, the next time I have you on, it's gonna be more lighthearted, but I definitely wanted to talk about this, and it's um it helped me be able to share my my story too, because that was a while ago and it wasn't. I still think about it all the time, you know what I mean? Always thinking like, oh, I wish I did this better, or did that, or what wish I tried this, but at the end of the day, I'm felt uh grateful that that we took on that burden as a family, and it it did bring bring my family closer. Definitely brought me closer to my dad. Anyway, if people we've been going for an hour, if people were to uh find you on social media, where could they find you?
SPEAKER_01Um, Instagram is Megan K Tanigucci.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And what you hit TikTok and all that too, or just I'm not really on TikTok. I'm not really on but you do the dances, right? You do dances, TikTok dances on Instagram.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. Let me tell you, I look back on some of my old content. I'm like, oh my gosh, so cringy. Why is she getting that? Yeah, mostly Instagram. I mean, Facebook is Megan Tani Gucci, but I just started that one up. Oh, really? What business page on there? Yeah, yeah. Because face for a moment, Facebook was kind of popping off, and it was kind of faster to grow on there, but it kind of slowed down recently. So I'm back on Instagram. Okay. What um what is your business? On Facebook, it's the same thing. Like inspirational polls, and yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's super cool. Um, future-wise, where do you see yourself taking at least your social media in the future?
SPEAKER_01Um, I'm hoping I'm gonna be doing the same thing, just sharing my story. I'm hoping that I have an audience that will follow along with it, you know. But without me taking breaks, because oh my gosh, yeah, caregiving play a big role. And social media, like now that I'm getting into it and I'm older, I'm like, this is hard. It's hard. Social media is hard.
SPEAKER_03It's a job, and uh, it's you gotta be consistent.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you have to be because that long break kind of like yeah, it kind of affected me for a little bit.
SPEAKER_03But you you do a lot of DIY stuff. I seen you made like a whole background thing in the corner of your house and all that stuff. I was like, at first I thought you made a podcasting studio, it looked like no, that's what it's supposed to be. It looked you that's what you should do, is a podcast.
SPEAKER_01That's what it was supposed to be. Well, yeah, I'm still, I don't know. Yeah, that's for that.
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SPEAKER_03Okay, if you're gonna start a podcast, I definitely can help you with that. And okay, okay, we can get that going because uh I'm always down to help people get podcasts going because nobody helped me and I had to figure it out. So I'd be down to help anybody, especially you. I feel like you would you would be great, you'd be a great podcast person, and like you have so much to share, and you'd be just fun to he to listen to on a weekly basis.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let me know.
SPEAKER_03Definitely, you got the background for it that you built by yourself. That's crazy. Yeah, you can just see my setup. I'm literally uh in the middle of my desk and my bed.
SPEAKER_02Like work, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm just like stuck in the middle, and yeah, it's it's been it's been fun for me, and I think it's a good outlet, and for for you, it could be a good outlet also. And yeah, for me, I I get so inspired by my guests, like talking to you today. It's inspiring, and um, I would say do it. You'd be a great you'd be great, you'll be somebody that'll be great at it, I think.
SPEAKER_01Okay, thank you. I've been doubting myself for a minute as to why what no, do it, pull the trigger, let's go. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03Did you pick out a name yet? Or are you still thinking?
SPEAKER_01Or I have like a separate page right now, so it's unfiltered with Megan. Yeah, so but like I wanna make sure like I carry myself. I don't know. Like for me, I'm such a perfectionist where I want it perfect, you know. But like everyone's like, it doesn't have to be perfect, like just do it, you know, and so now I'm like, okay, I just gotta do it, then I just gotta I just gotta do it.
SPEAKER_03Yep, just do it and you can figure it out along the way. Yeah, and that's that's what I made all the excuses in the world why not to do it because I wanted to for year for years and years, I wanted to do a podcast, but I I didn't have the balls to pull the trigger. And then one of my best friends um was on somebody else's podcast, and he congratulated them for m getting it done. And his last line was, I have a friend that's been talking about it for years and I'm still waiting. And I was listening to it at work. I'm like, oh, you fucking you calling me out. Okay. And that moment is when I flip the switch. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do it. And just do it. Like you're you're you actually would love it. Once you start get getting it going, and it won't be perfect. Mine's not perfect. It's growing, it changes all the time. Like I if if we if we were to watch our episode we did my first year, which was five years ago, it's totally different than what it is now. Just my the way I'm conversing and and more confident and just everything. I lost my producer, so I had to learn how to do it myself. And it's just it's been it's been fun and I've been learning, and like it'll never be perfect, but yeah, yeah, I'm always gonna make it better. So just do it. I I would say do it. Call me if you have any questions or okay, need help, or want to get started, or need to know how to put it on all the platforms. Like okay, it'd be super easy. You'd be oh, you'd you'd kill you having a podcast would be super super good. That would be awesome. Okay, and I know you want to because you build a whole freaking backdrop already.
SPEAKER_01I know, I know. I did a whole room.
Humility, Patience, And Grace In Practice
SPEAKER_03Yep, let's go. Anyway, um, we're pretty much done. Shaka's for the cameras. Okay, we're out. Shout out to the artist groove network. Aloha.
