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Why We Grow Up But Never Outgrow The Things We Love

• Bosco Pearson, Joe Pogue, Shyrod Long & Steve McBride • Episode 255

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What do Swifties, Starter jackets, and edge rushers have in common? They all say something real about how culture moves us—who we admire, what we collect, and how we keep evolving. We kick things off with shoutouts and a playful debate about Taylor Swift’s fan army versus the Beehive, then detour into comic book logic to settle the eternal question: who actually flies and who just jumps really well?

From there, we dig into hip‑hop roots: the first tapes that lit a fuse, the 80s and 90s names that shaped taste, and the Bay Area sound that traveled hood to hood. E‑40 gets a long‑overdue appraisal—his slang, cadence, and inventiveness, and why greatness sometimes gets lost in translation when regional language keeps casual listeners at arm’s length. It’s part history lesson, part love letter to the artists who built the blueprint.

Nostalgia takes center stage with stories about Starter jackets, first pairs of Jordans, prom fits, and the outfits that made us feel untouchable. Those memories aren’t just clothes; they’re core memories. We compare then and now in training too—how “max everything” became position‑specific work, why edge rushers are redefining defense, and how even the military has embraced smarter strength and conditioning. The thread continues with soccer culture, live match energy at Phoenix Rising, and how global leagues shape the game here.

We close on storytelling that hits the heart: animated films packed with adult humor and precise emotional beats that still make grown folks tear up. It’s all connected—music, sport, style, and the moments that made us. If you’ve ever argued about top fives, treasured an old photo, or chased a PR in the weight room, you’ll feel right at home with this one.

Enjoy the ride, share it with a friend who loves hip‑hop and throwback fits, and don’t forget to follow, rate, and leave a quick review—what’s your all‑time favorite nostalgia item?

Thanks for listening to the Nobody's Talking Podcast. Follow us on Twitter: (nobodystalking1), Instagram : (nobodystalkingpodcast) and email us at (nobodystalkingpodcast@gmail.com) Thank you!

SPEAKER_01:

We are back for another week. I got two more shout out. This is uh shout out. Nobody talking podcast. I left somebody out the El Mirage crew when I shouted them out. So now I just saw him this morning. Okay. Hilda. She's part of the El Mirage crew. Shout out to Hilda. Shout out Hilda. And shout out to Swifty. Brittany. I finally met a real. I'm not going to even talk about it. I'm just going to send a shout out to Swifty Britney. I met a true Swift. I never met a Swifty before.

SPEAKER_05:

Really?

SPEAKER_01:

It's a real life swift. But it's as I said, I wait. I'm trying to get them to come on.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

So I don't want to, because then I don't want to talk about it. Then we got to talk about it again if they come on. But Brittany, come on the show and let's talk about your Swiftiness. If a Swifties, Paul. We're talking about We're talking about Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift. That way we bad blood. AKA. I didn't forgot the other song already. Shake it off. Shake it off. Yeah, shake it off. Shake it off, Bad Blood. Shake it off.

SPEAKER_07:

And her favorite number, Shake It Off. Shake it off 13. See, nigga, I knew you knew what a Swifty song was. I knew it was. But the song. And he was and he's singing it. I can't name the song.

SPEAKER_01:

No, you can't you can't name Bad Blood and couldn't think of it.

SPEAKER_07:

I know Bad Blood. Like I said, you had like you had to remind me of it, but I no, I know. What's a Taylor Swift song? I'd be like. And I'll probably. I know. I know a couple more. I know, I know a few. Just name five. Shh, I can't do that. I can give you two more. I know bad blood. I know. Something about karma is a boyfriend or something. Hey, don't you have one called Cold Summer? I'll bring it up. I'll bring it up for it. Let's go ahead and do the introductions. Oh, we waiting on that. Let's see what this is. Okay, hold on. Just so you know, her name is Swifty now. It ain't even Taylor Swift no more. It's Swifty.

SPEAKER_05:

Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_07:

The Swift Army. Seriously? Swift. Seriously? Just joking. Just joking. They call themselves the Swifties. They call themselves the Swifties.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But it's the Taylor Swift Army.

SPEAKER_05:

So we got Cruel Summer.

SPEAKER_01:

I heard Cruel Summer. I say cold summer. So cruel summer. Cold summer. Hey, I'm not on no smoke with them. Oh, don't do that. I didn't heard what they didn't did before. What have they done? No, I'm saying with like, man, hey, that them art that army didn't. Those motherfuckers is powerful, boy. Oh, the Swift? Hell yeah. Same with the the Beehive. Like the Luminati. What have they done? The Beehive. No, I'm saying, like, as far as uh cancel coaster. You'll probably have to like look it up. Trust me.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I mean, to us, it might seem like, oh, it messed around with being this bitch. We've been here forever. You'd be here forever, ever. Yeah, you ever talk about them Swifties. Hell yeah. It'd be like, hey, Christian is no longer part of the podcast. We leave the podcast next week. Nigga. Nigga.

unknown:

Cut the nigga's throat.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey, I don't I don't make it home tonight because I said something about the Swifties. Man, like there was a serious accident on the loop 101.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't want no problems.

SPEAKER_07:

That be some shit. Or situation.

SPEAKER_01:

We love you. With the beehive.

unknown:

None of y'all.

SPEAKER_01:

Or Queen Bee in the Beehive. Yup. I don't want no. I don't want no smoke with Tim. I don't want no smoke with Taylor Swift's uh army. Nope. I love them both. Both of them are superstars to me. Right? I'm like, man. Let me see. You said something about a boyfriend?

SPEAKER_07:

What'd you say? Uh karma or something. Karma is. Something to do with karma. Is that on there? See, I'm looking. Oh. Karma is a boyfriend or something like that. Something like that.

unknown:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07:

No, me neither. Only reason I know that is because it's there used to be a Swifty in the gym. Oh, okay. That's the only reason I know. I'm just like, oh.

SPEAKER_01:

I know if I hear a song, I'll be like, oh.

SPEAKER_07:

I know she used to do country.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I did I know that stuff. Like how she started and it's crazy though.

SPEAKER_07:

Like you either start a country and transition to pop, or you started pop and transitioned to country. I was gonna say she was post Malone before uh that motherfucker even fuck postmalone.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, show's growth, man.

SPEAKER_07:

Growth and you don't like him either? Oh, post Malone? Nah.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like, man.

SPEAKER_07:

You see, Neo got a country song out now, too.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah. See everybody crossing over. Neo.

SPEAKER_07:

Black Neo. Black Neo.

SPEAKER_02:

Three wives, Neo. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

Three wives. Huh? Neo got three wives? Oh, damn. Anyway. Allegedly. Welcome. Till the Nobody's Talking Podcast. Allegedly, Neo has three wives.

SPEAKER_01:

This is your boy Bosco. And sitting to my left.

SPEAKER_07:

You know who it is. It's Rod. And to my left. This be the one they call Christian, aka Hey, I hate everybody, aka Grumpy Bear.

SPEAKER_01:

Man, I hear. I'm like, man. Wait, go ahead. Hey. Christian may no longer be on the show. We gotta dissect after a while. Go ahead, Steve. Sitting to his left.

SPEAKER_08:

Superman is in the building.

SPEAKER_01:

Tell us why you grow up leaping tall buildings. I'm not grumping in a single bound. Grumpy bear. Jumping tall buildings or leaping tall buildings. Leaping tall buildings. Leaping tall buildings in a single bound.

SPEAKER_02:

Because he faster than a speedy book.

SPEAKER_07:

Technically can't fly. He just takes big jumps. No, that nigga flies. Yeah, but it's he just defies gravity because he's so strong. It's technically not flying. I mean, it's flying the building. But when he jumps over a building, he jumps. It's really, but if he wanted, if he didn't want to land, he wouldn't have to. Has Superman ever jumped.

SPEAKER_01:

The hawk taking big leaps.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. That's how the hawk flies. The hawk can take a gigantic leap because he's so strong. I mean, you gotta twist. Superman flies.

SPEAKER_07:

That nigga can start in Cali and end up in Florida in a single, maybe, maybe three jumps. Hey, who else? What other superhero can fly? Uh, it's a gang of them. Is it? I think Wonder Woman can fly. In her private jet? No, no, no. I think Wonder Woman can't fly. You sure about that? I'm pretty positive. She has the yeah, the with her lasso. The lasso.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, she can't fly because she got the invisible jet.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And she wouldn't need it.

SPEAKER_07:

So DC superheroes. Oh, uh Green Green Lantern can fly. You can fly? Yeah. Martian Manhunter can fly. I don't even know who that is. Black Adam can fly. Black Adam can fly. No. Was that the rock? Suzanne can fly. Suzanne can fly.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, Black Adam, was that that was a rock? Hey, that's good. Hey, retardo. Can fly too. Who? Retardo. Nigga Bizarro.

SPEAKER_09:

Sorry, folks. He meant Bizarro. Oh, Bizarro.

SPEAKER_01:

But Bizarro is a bad person, right?

SPEAKER_04:

No, he's really retarded versus the dude, man.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_03:

They was messing with his DNA. He's retired.

SPEAKER_07:

If if if I get called out, we're talking about the Swifties. Who is gonna get this nigga?

SPEAKER_08:

Hey, no, the Swifties is more powerful than the who would that be? The mentally challenged.

SPEAKER_07:

Like who is who was the handyman?

SPEAKER_03:

Who was the handyman can fly? Who is their embassy? Handyman can fly.

SPEAKER_07:

So I got a list of them, all right? Captain Marvel. Oh, nigga, you're boring. Okay. She can fly. We're fact-checking now, are we? Yeah, we he asked the question. Supergirl can fly. I didn't know we fact-checked. Yeah, super girl can fly, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, hold on. All right. So Captain Marvel. Hey, that was that was fact-checking over. That was fact, right? Grumpy. We fact-checking number. We gotta take these extra mics off so I know whose mic I'm cutting off. I thought you say one thing about the Swifties or the Beehive, mic off.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, they can probably fly too. The beehives will fly. Right.

SPEAKER_07:

The well-known ones. Thor. Thor can fly. Thor can find? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can. Iron Man, obviously. Oh, right. Storm. Yep. Who is wait? I didn't know Roe can fly. X-Men. Storm from X-Men.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, Roe Levitates. Holly Berry? Rogue Levitates.

unknown:

Oh, gosh.

SPEAKER_02:

She just be like, Halle Berry.

SPEAKER_07:

Hallibury. Anyway. Let me see. Doctor Strange can fly. Doctor Strange. Yeah, he's on the list. He flies. Yeah. Human Torch. Forgot about him. What's his name? Johnny Flame? Flame On. Damn. So yeah, they didn't. Johnny Storm. Can't Ghost Rider fly kind of?

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, wait, which was which one of them ones? Have anybody seen the new Fantastic Four?

SPEAKER_05:

Not yet. No, I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_07:

I saw it's on Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_01:

So I know one of them guys. It's already on Disney Plus. I seen one of them guys. It's already on Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_07:

I think it's on Disney Plus. Damn, it didn't do too well then.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it's been out to that's just been him out a long time. Has it been? Yeah, movies don't last that long.

SPEAKER_07:

It only lasts about a month, well, about a month and a half, two months. You know what? They're trying to hurry up and get them to the I seen him is uh being sold in stores already. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that did. I think that only lasted like three weeks. Yeah, it didn't last very long.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I saw it. I'm telling you, that's just something y'all just gotta see for yourself. He said it was different. It's different, man.

SPEAKER_07:

But you know, Jordan Peel didn't write that movie. He just like executive producer, right? It was just one of his type. He didn't want to sully his good name by saying he wrote it. But he produced it. This is not one of my pieces of work. Man, talk about a transition. He started all in comedy. Funny as hell though. Him and Key. Well he's yeah, Key Keegan Michael Key. Yeah. Man, those dudes are just. Weren't they both on Mad TV? They were at one point. At one point they were both on Mad TV. I think so.

SPEAKER_01:

I watched a couple times, but I ain't watched Mad TV like that. Yeah, no, it was it was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_07:

I mean, I think it was trying too much to be like in Living Color. Like in Living Color or Saturday Night Live? Saturday.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you're right. I used to always watch Saturday Night Live. And then honestly, probably when I I would I probably stopped watching. I don't know when Eddie Murphy actually left. I used to watch it every, you know, you've been old every way back then. Yeah. I catch it every night. And then when I became like, you know, when you became an adult, I've seen it a few times with Chris Rock on there. But uh I don't was was Dave Chappelle ever on Saturday Night Live?

SPEAKER_07:

No, he just hosted a few times. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

He's hosted a few times. Didn't he write for times? He might have been on. So I I know um what's the black dude is still on there now?

SPEAKER_05:

Keenan Thompson. He's the longest running. Right, right, right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So I've seen him on there. I've seen it. I've seen when Alec Baldwin would do, he was one that would do Trump, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

So I like I would see it here and there, like spotty. But when Eddie Murphy was on there, uh John Belushi, Dan Aykroyd, I know for all you people. I got a little age on me. Hey, have you seen you gotta fact check these? Have you seen Eddie Murphy do Tracy Morgan?

SPEAKER_07:

Yes. That shit is hilarious. It was on Saturday Night Live. Funny as hell. It was funny as hell.

SPEAKER_01:

Has anybody watched Eddie Murphy's uh his documentary yet? Not yet.

SPEAKER_07:

I keep I have it on my two-watch list.

SPEAKER_01:

I want y'all to niggas see when he flexed on all of us. I was like, dog. He bossed up on all oh, it's cold in here. I said, damn, Eddie. I'm like, well, hold up. I'm gonna close my window.

unknown:

Man.

SPEAKER_07:

Is it a is it a like a standalone or is it a series?

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, no. It's just like it's almost like a documentary. No, it's a documentary. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I don't know, like an hour or something. Oh, has anybody seen uh tonight Kevin Hart? Not yet. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I've seen that he has a new special. Oh, hey. It's funny. Yeah. Check it out. I'm gonna check it out. Yeah. I think he just kind of just kept it on the surface. It's good. I seen the clips, like you know, you know how they be showing the clips and stuff, but I'm just talking about as us as you know, older gentlemen getting older. Yeah, you can definitely relate.

SPEAKER_07:

Now I kind of like how his comedy has evolved over the years, which they all do, right?

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, yeah, but I'm telling you, when they first first come out, oh you get you you gotta have that pain, like, dude. Well it's just like I mean no, go ahead.

SPEAKER_07:

It's like music, right? So you you listen to Jay-Z's first album, then you listen to his last album, right? So his first album talking about slanging, though, you know, right stuff. His last album talking about making money and how you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just crazy how like you you gotta evolve, I think. I don't know if you can just sit there and stay stagnant the entire time and keep talking about the same shit. Because niggas stop believing you. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, nigga, you rich now. Like, okay, talk about what you got. Now I want to hear about you. You looking at all these exquisite paintings, why are you still talking about cooking, cooking up in the dope house? Like, nigga, we don't believe that. Exactly. Stop it. Yeah, no. At some point, you gotta level up. And for us, you know, that have started listening to him when he was, you know, Jay-Z. Now that he's Jay-Z, like for us, it helps us evolve with the music, too. You know what I mean? Like, I listened to him when he was singing, now he's y'all heard what uh what Three Stack said about why he's not ever rapping again, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I know from what I remember him saying, or what I heard, was that he just some almost to what Sherad was saying. Like his life is way different now.

SPEAKER_07:

So what he rapped about back then, and he's an older guy, he can't sit up here and rap about but see because it's him, I would much rather listen to him about getting a pause alert, colonoscopy, you know, as opposed to whatever, because you know he's still gonna bring the heat with it. Hey, Andre three stacks, dog. He was dope. He is dope, he is, yeah. Hey, the nigga started playing flutes.

SPEAKER_01:

I got a question for y'all. I don't know if I if I bought this up before, but you know how they always talk about, and listen, there's no right or wrong answer, man, because you can have a top five, you can have one, you can have one. Everybody's top five gonna be different. But the one thing I always wonder is how come when they talk about top five lyricists, nobody ever talk about E40.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, that's because A, in my opinion, nobody's really, nobody's really digging in the crates like that. Like we we know E40. E40, yeah. We know E40. Oh, dog, but I haven't listened to E40 since like 1993. And he's way, way, way been underground. Like his biggest pop-ish hit is uh what uh the one he did with T-Pang. You you and that booty, I think it is. Oh you and then I like him, Selly Cell. Selly Cell, Spice One, but no, no, Spice One was a part of them, though, I don't think. He was a Bay Area rapper, but he wasn't a part of that. Yeah, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

So I think uh was his sister, I think sugar tea.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh yeah, sugar tea.

SPEAKER_01:

I think sugar tea was his sister. Uh man, Eve boy. Yeah, 40 was dope. 40 is dope. Oh, when I said that cat said, look up in the sky. It's a bird, it's a plane. What's that nigga's name? Captain Saberho. But then again, Saverho, man. I probably like him so much too, cuz it's more you from the hood, though. All right, he's got bars though. His biggest hit. He's 40 is cold, man.

SPEAKER_05:

Tell me when to go.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh shit. Tell me when to go. Tell me when, and that ain't even my and I'm glad he got that commercial success. Yeah. But yeah, man. Time a time up. Sprinkle me, man.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh man. Now see that. Tell me when to go. Like that's that's that's big big bay shit, right? Oh, yeah, no, that goes. I still don't think people were fucking with him on that level. He brought the Bay to the masses, but when I I think when he did the T-Pain shit is when he was really on that run.

SPEAKER_01:

And you said where is Spice. For some reason, I always thought Spice One was, I just thought he was from LA.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm pretty sure he was from the Bay Area. I used to listen to Spice One like crazy.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah. Um, the Bay Area was was was knocking in Ohio back then.

SPEAKER_01:

Too short.

SPEAKER_07:

But still, hell yeah. The Bay to Ohio. Hell yeah. Wow. So Hayward, California.

SPEAKER_01:

It's who it's hood to hood. That's dope. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

San Francisco.

SPEAKER_01:

He's from San Francisco. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

But y'all know what Spice One's best hit of all time is, right? No. Bang Bang Niner Gang. A bang bang niner gang. That's my hit right there. That's my jam. Because he said the Niners. Cut this nigga's mic off. Turn me up on my mic. Stand. Stand boy. Turn me up on my mic. No, I to answer your question. I think Spice One was hard for people to understand. Like you really had to listen to him to catch his lyrics, right? Right. And so his inflection was dope, but it was hard to. Some people just couldn't understand it or follow it. You know what I mean? So I think that's why a lot of people don't mention him in the top top five or top 10. You mean E40? E40, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was gonna say the same for 40. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's what I'm talking about. He does a whole lot with his voice after that. That's what I'm talking about. My bad. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he does a lot with his voice. That cock, man. Yeah, and then I know some of the terminology people didn't get. Yeah. When he talks about riding around in my scraper, yeah. Niggas be like, scrape? What? Scrape? Yeah, they had they had a different slang up there. Yeah, hell yeah. Like, I mean, no matter where you go. Like, you know, well, in Philly, they say John. And they they or bull. Yeah. And that's for, I mean, we don't say that. So when you was growing up, we say cat.

SPEAKER_07:

So you growing up in in uh Ohio, obviously. I mean, the big groups in Ohio rap hip hop groups was obviously bone thugs. That's I was a grown man. So I'm going way well. So you so who was who was like hip-hop? Hip hop. I'm not talking about RB or something.

SPEAKER_01:

No, way, no, way back then it wasn't. It really wasn't any uh wasn't no hip-hop. I mean, bone is probably like, but then I suppose that's I was grown by then.

SPEAKER_07:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm going like like as a kid. I'm sitting up here trying to think. Yeah, we really didn't uh yeah, we probably, yeah, we really didn't have anybody.

SPEAKER_07:

So they pretty much put uh man because that shit wasn't even out when we were kids. No, was it was what I said? You were born in what, 73? Yeah, so no, that's what I said. We we had so he was. No, that's what I said. I remember the Sugar Hill guy.

SPEAKER_01:

The very first time I lived on bacon. And I remember my neighbors had an album, like their parents, their parents got it, and they was talking to my mom, like, hey, and then remember we heard it, and I remember all the kids. We were sitting out there dancing around, like, oh man, like what is this? And it was it was the Sugar Hill guy. See, that's dope. Too many niggas, they don't they don't have that story, boy. Hey, like when they say, I am hip-hop, I am hip hop, I am black culture. You know how people be like, oh well, like, yeah, I don't need to be black culture, I am black culture, right?

SPEAKER_07:

So by the time it was the first it wasn't the first wave of hip hop. Literally, yeah, literally the first wave of hope. So by the time the 90s came around, so early 90s, right? Yeah, no, we had so uh what genre would you say you listened to the most? Well, back then, yeah, 90s, early 90s.

SPEAKER_01:

No, hell no. Like shit. No, it was 80s.

SPEAKER_02:

It was the late 80s.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, late, late 80s. L Cool J.

SPEAKER_02:

L Cool J, Kumo D. Hell yeah, Derek B. Houdini East Coast. We listen to the Houdini. I thought that was out. That's probably how that was out. That was all before NWA came out. Then NWA came out and took over.

SPEAKER_01:

And we we listened to Fifth War. Oh, yeah, we listened to K S one, Scholar Rock, uh, the Ghetto. Yeah. I I know we forgetting some people, so we apologize, but uh I'm and I'm sure it was UGK. Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

Underground Kings, yeah. So that's all South. It's the peace pimp C. Cause the Atlanta scene didn't really hit until that was the 90s, I think. Until the 90s, yeah. Yeah, I think the 90s.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so I was in college by then. Yeah, yeah. So it was a lot of tech. Because I always thought the brat was from Atlanta. But it did, but then when you you when you hear what she said, yeah, because I mean you have when she said coming straight from the 6064 four, and they're like, oh, here, hold on, let me Google. Yeah. Oh shit, I know what the hell.

SPEAKER_07:

I was like I think I think a lot of people kind of represented her with so-so deaf, which was primarily Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01:

No, that that's why at first I thought she was from Atlanta. So to find out that she was from Chicago. Yeah, once the 90s came, it was because we Oh yeah, because we had Roxanne, Shantae, real Roxanne, UTFO.

SPEAKER_02:

That was like the beginning of it all. Heather B. Heather B. Yeah, Heather B. Who started on the real world. We had uh JJ Fadd. Sonic, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_05:

We're JJ Fad, and then we're here to rock. Salt and pepper. Heather B. Heather B was on the real world. The first season she was. Yeah, Heather B. Real World, yep.

SPEAKER_01:

It's your thing. Kid and play.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh man, because I had them all. Slick Rick.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, Slick Rick. Dougie Fresh. Dougie Fresh. Hey, remember? I remember the very first time I heard Lottie Dottie. We was leaving football practice. And I remember my dude. His oh. I forget. I forget the young lady. I don't know if her name was Angela. But uh she had the uh tape. And it was it was Lottie Dottie. And it was playing it in the parking lot. I mean, I might have been. Hey, see when did see when did when did Lottie Dottie come out? I don't I w I want to say I think I was 12. 11, 12, 13. Probably 12 or 13 when Lottie Dottie came out. And I was like, who in the hell? 1986. Bang, biscuit. Sick red head, Dougie Fresh. I was 13.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh no, you know we can we can't do that. We got about 10 seconds. Oh, oh yeah, no. Hell no, yeah, no, hell no. We ain't playing none of that.

SPEAKER_01:

You be like, hey, Sherrod is no longer on the podcast. Use y'all's imagination, people. Or use your own. Now me and Steve. Google it. Joe can't make it because Joe likes to sleep.

SPEAKER_02:

He likes to sleep in.

SPEAKER_01:

But yeah, I know. Uh that's why. Hey, still, my favorite rap song to date is still LO Koo J, I'm Bad. I'm Bad. I remember the very first time I heard. And I I do love Eric being Rock Him. But man, when I first heard that I'm Bad, and then he had that song, uh Candy. Because remember LL? Hey, LL Cool J got two songs called Candy. Yep. One way, way back in the day. And I know, I don't know what year it came out. But I was living out here when the other candy came out. It was more of a dance vibe. And the other candy, you know, he was singing to his chick. I was like, All I know is cut creator was bad. DJ ever. About Candy.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, Jazzy Jeff. Oh yeah, Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Yeah, Jeff.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, we can't forget about Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Heavy D. Heavy D. Dilly Dilly Dilly D. Chubb Rock. Rest in peace, Heavy D. Remember Chubb Rock? Chubb Rock and Hitman Howie T?

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Man. Run DMC. Oh yeah. So I think Run DMC enemy. Yeah, I think Run DMC may have 90s.

SPEAKER_02:

That's more 90s. That's when I was 90. Yeah, yeah. That was a nice thing NWA came.

SPEAKER_01:

I think Run DMC may have been right. I'm trying to think maybe. Because I remember Scott LaRocking him around 87. Yeah. When did L? When did I'm bad come out?

SPEAKER_05:

Had to be 87.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh shit, just look up top. Like, first would be like, when did rap start? So we we got like around 73. Now some people gang, I think. Some people are gonna sit up here and argue. I've heard albums and stuff before. Oh, with the when the cat was kind of rapping.

SPEAKER_07:

Get out of here. But it didn't really break through to 79. 73 is when it started. Early 70s. 73, yep.

SPEAKER_05:

Wiley credited with the sparking movement in 1973. DJ Cool Herc.

SPEAKER_01:

DJ Cool Hurt. They said DJ Cool Herc.

SPEAKER_05:

So DJ Cool Herc. And then Johnny gained national attention in 1993.

SPEAKER_01:

Because they said everything started and did y'all ever watch that on Netflix? That was a good show, man. Took me back.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that was the first one.

SPEAKER_01:

That's when it kind of got and that that remember, I said that's what I remember. 1979, I was six, seven years. That's probably seven. My birthday is at the beginning of the year, so yeah, that's crazy. But I know I do I obviously you remember. I'm trying to Biz Marquee. But even some of that, but rest in peace. But some of that is still going towards uh 90s. Yeah. Yeah, Bizmarkee. Yeah, toward, yeah, towards the uh yeah, going towards the um like early. Early nineties. Yeah, the early, yeah, it was the early nineties. So it sounds like the boom, the big boom was in the nineties. Yeah, I would say, yeah, no, I think when it when it when it really took off the biggest, like when it really and we had uh because I know did you have did you ever have Have a uh a Raiders jacket?

unknown:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I had a White Sox jacket.

SPEAKER_01:

See, I had a Celtics. Starter? Yeah, I had a Celtic. Starter jacket? Yeah. Yeah. The White Sox jacket.

SPEAKER_02:

I bought it myself, nigga. I had that jacket. See, yeah, the White Sox.

SPEAKER_01:

I had the Celtics.

SPEAKER_07:

I had a I had a Giants, New York Giants starter. I had a Boston Celtics. Yeah. Did you have a starter? Nah, I have a starter.

SPEAKER_01:

This nigga was just born yesterday. 90. Starter was literally 90.

unknown:

Damn.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Hey, I did think about going to get a uh, like just getting a. I'm gonna tell you what this would this, what people do. I think everybody's guilty of it. That's why I don't even want to hit the lottery. Because wait, hold on. I don't want to wait, wait. Everything cut this nigga's mic off. Right. No, no, you don't get it. I remember my very first pair of Jordans that my dad bought me. I had Foot Locker for 65 bucks. He remembered Roland Acres Mall. I had first pair, second pair, third pair, fourth pair. Now I'm a grown man in my 50s. I don't have the originals, obviously. I wish I did, but I have the first pair, the second pair, the third pair, and the fourth pair. Because it just feels nostalgia. So now, dog, man, you'll sit up here, you'll probably get everything. Oh, you know what they said? Uh Carl Anthony Towns. His uh girlfriend bought him, I think a minivan, whatever it was, a Jeep or whatever it was the uh the vehicle that his mom drove, like when he was a kid. Now you know this dude got all the money in the world. But that stuff means something. His girlfriend bought, I guess, I don't know if it was the exact same one, but like that model that they had. Yeah. Came from the city. He was like, he said, man, this is like the best, this is the best gift ever. Price tag on nostalgia.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, okay. I wouldn't buy, like you said, Jordans. The first pair of Jordans I had were the fives. Okay. The fire red fives.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah. Whites. The white ones. So that was a very so when they dropped a few years ago, I made sure I and today they're still sitting at my house right now in a box because nostalgia-wise, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what you had. First pair of Jordans.

SPEAKER_01:

See, hey, now that's funny, because I have that pair, yeah, but it don't hit me. Yes. Like that. I never because I didn't have them back then anyway. I remember I was so happy. But the first couple. So no, I I know what you're saying though.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, they had like the the little push down to tighten up the laces. Yeah, nah.

SPEAKER_02:

Is that the one with the reflective tongue? With the reflective tongue. Oh, yeah, that was the first ones I bought too. When I was in Saudi, I got two pairs for like the price of one because they didn't know how much they cost over there. Yeah. And I was over there. I went in there and told everybody how much I bought them for. Man, everybody went to the mall to go get them shoes. And I went back to go get two more pairs because my brother wanted some, and they had already raised the price up to the like a hundred something. I got them for like$50 a piece. Everybody else,$100 a piece.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no, that is, man.

SPEAKER_02:

Like you said, nostalgia.

SPEAKER_01:

No, that no, that that's what it is. I was like, I just had to have these. Yeah. Because this is what right. Because anyway, I the only reason I bought that up is because I didn't have a Raiders jacket or anything. But you know, remember, I tell y'all, I think I might be a closet Raider fan. Remember, I got a whole bunch of Raider like t-shirts, workout stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

That's just because we go to Vegas every year.

SPEAKER_01:

And but no shit. Some of my shit is from Oakland. Okay. Like Oakland and LA. Yeah. So that's why I was sitting up here thinking, like, see, I never had a Letterman jacket. I think I might get a uh I might get a Raider Starter jacket.

SPEAKER_07:

I wanted one of them. If I can find an old school, like you said, because I had a I had a Giants one that got stolen. Hey, I know Anitra.

SPEAKER_01:

Anitra Walker. Got my Boston Celtic jacket.

SPEAKER_07:

My story goes, so we had just my parents were stationed overseas in Germany, right? So the whole battalion had moved to Washington State. So all the kids in that battalion, we were staying on base housing for a while, so they we went skating to a skating rink, right? Yeah. So me not thinking of it, you know, we was in Germany. We was kind of away from the world, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_07:

So me not thinking of it, I didn't lock it up. Even though I knew starter jackets were popular, but I didn't lock it up. I hung that bitch up and we was done at the skating rink I went to look for.

SPEAKER_02:

Your ass out there, shit.

SPEAKER_07:

It was cold, it was cold. I remember the jacket gone. I remember we went when they took us home. We went, you know, knocked in the door. My mom answered the door. She's like, hey, shot, where you where your jacket at? I'm like, it got stolen. I had a tear falling down my eye. Man, I was so hurt, dog. I love that damn giant jacket, dog. It was blue with the with the giants across the back. Man, that thing was so clean. Yeah. Now that was that was kind of my my eye-opening. Like, gotta lock shit up. Niggas be stealing. Stealing.

SPEAKER_01:

They sure will. Somebody tried to steal my uh Michael Jackson beat it jacket.

unknown:

Man.

SPEAKER_02:

I never got the jacket. I had the zipper pants though, the parachute pants. Oh, you did? But I didn't have the jacket.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, you had the hammer time?

SPEAKER_02:

Hell yeah. No, the the Michael Jackson was the job.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, oh, yeah, that's right. To match the uh jacket.

SPEAKER_02:

And I said I was always told myself I was gonna get the jacket, but I never did.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, see, I had the jacket. I had a pants. And then I had the belt. You ever had a belt buckle with your name? It said Bosco.

SPEAKER_02:

Nah.

SPEAKER_01:

And then you you would wear it on the first uh on the first little notch. So it could it go below everybody see your name? Yeah hell yeah. Hey. I've got remember getting it from OJ. Hey, anybody shout out from for OJ's menswear. Home of the Stacey Adams.

SPEAKER_07:

What would you say your favorite outfit of all time was growing up? I'm gonna tell you, I'll tell you mine real quick. So I remember when Cross Colors was big, right? Yeah. So I remember my mom took us to the to the to the mall, and I was like, she's like, okay, you can pick out one outfit. Man, I was so damn happy. I got the cross colors jean jacket with the with the pants. Dog, man, you couldn't tell me nothing. Not a damn thing. Oh that so that probably was my favorite outfit of all time. I remember just setting it on the bed getting ready for school the next day. I was gonna kill him with this outfit, boy. So that's probably my favorite. How about you, Steve?

SPEAKER_02:

My favorite was uh remember uh Bubble Sparks when they had the overalls. We wear one one strap. Oh yeah, like ABC. I had some lug boots with my overalls on, and I ain't never wear no shirt underneath, so I can try to show off my little cut-up muscles. That was my favorite shit. I used to wear that everywhere. My brother was like, Man, why don't you put on a fucking shirt? I was like, nah, man, it's the style.

SPEAKER_03:

Always trying to show off your muscles.

SPEAKER_01:

See? See? How about your man? I'm sitting up here trying to think. I'm like, damn, my favorite outfit. Like you just, like, if you could wear it every day, you could.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I was wearing that motherfucker everywhere.

SPEAKER_07:

I remember the I remember the overalls with the one strap up.

SPEAKER_04:

Boy, we thought we were so clean with that one.

SPEAKER_01:

You know what? I remember I was in junior high school. Yeah and I had a Coca-Cola. That's when everybody was wearing like Coca-Cola. Yeah. And I had a uh little long-sleeve uh Coca-Cola uh polo shirt. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Well, you remember sitting there. Like the white stripe? It was it was all the shirt was all red with a white column.

unknown:

Yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_01:

And then it would have the little white around, and then it said Coca-Cola. Oh yeah. And I remember I sent it there dancing. Remember? Hey, I'm gonna see me and me and Ballerie. I'm calling people out today. Ballery Hargrove. Man, we're at the Goodridge year high school. Then the next year, that's when the Nitra Walker had my Boston Celtics jacket.

SPEAKER_02:

And never gave it back.

SPEAKER_01:

No, hell no, she didn't give it back. Get this jacket back. I'm like, what? I think she got a slip, Angie.

SPEAKER_08:

Her whole government on there. People gonna be searching for her.

SPEAKER_04:

You got your jacket on eBay. You can't find me because I'm in witness protection.

SPEAKER_07:

So you missed the question, Christian. So we we asked, what your favorite outfit of all time was. All time. Yeah, no matter what, you know, just growing up. Well, probably yeah, yeah, growing up. Yeah, just growing up. I don't know. I was I was part of the tall T era, so you know, it was just straight white T's. Okay. Tall T's with baggy pants with baggy pants and Timberlands? Nah, nah, nah. It was it was out here, it was uh it was Dickies and Air Maxes.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, okay, we definitely rocked Tim's.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I didn't have no Tims. We wore Tim's in the summer. I had lugs.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, niggas had lugs out here too.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, in the uh in the fat farms. I ain't never had lug. Fat farm? Yeah we used we used to make fun of the motherfuckers, so you know the fat farm.

SPEAKER_01:

Yo, this is so funny hearing this. I know because all that, I'm like, goodness gracious.

SPEAKER_07:

We're adults, yeah. So so niggas had had the fat farm, but the the pee was backwards. So we knew them shits was fake. Where did y'all get it from? He said the P. The backwards P. I don't know. I think it was at like uh payless or something. K momo. I think I think you actually got the the regular ones from K Momo.

SPEAKER_01:

Komo the regular uh K Momo play trying to put smud on our name.

SPEAKER_07:

That's that's what's up. Yeah, no, man. I was telling him, man, I wish I can go back to those days sometimes.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you don't know how good you had it. Hey shit, because we ain't had to pay bills. Right. No, that's right. Right. Hell yeah. Man, that's that's when that's because it was good. I had a paper out. That's why I was good. I had a paper out. So I too had to buy a lot of paper. I see y'all was rich. Shit. I had to buy food, nigga.

SPEAKER_02:

Shit.

SPEAKER_01:

I stick to these times right here. I'm alright. I was okay. Doing all right for himself.

SPEAKER_07:

I was like, oh, I'm cool. Made it out the hood. But I um, yeah, I wasn't really I w I wasn't bummy, but I wasn't really into fashion. Like I just kept pretty much what I do now, just solid colors. Yeah? Yeah. You'll never wear like like fuchsia or like blue. Every now and again, if I'm feeling real frisky, I might throw on a blue shirt. Maybe even a red shirt.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it was cross colors that got me. Cross colors. Liking colors. Yeah, cross colors. But I like colors. If I go with my wardrobe, my wardrobe was color coordinated. Cross colors. They go from one end of the spectrum.

SPEAKER_01:

You got the coordinates. I got all the colors in this. See the mushroom belt? Marcus.

SPEAKER_03:

I look at my girl's side of her closet. R.I.P. John Witherspa. Black.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, did any of y'all cats back in the day ever uh dress like your girl to like a dance or you mean twinning? Do the uh amusement park? Yep. I don't think I did. No, me neither. I never did it, but something close, but it was just prom.

SPEAKER_07:

So I was so I was a twin. So me and my brother probably dressed like up until eighth grade.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's understandable. Yeah. But what about your girl? You said about your girl, like y'all twin. Yeah, I mean twinning. Yeah, the twins, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Not you, twinning. But I used to hate it. But you and your girl twinning.

SPEAKER_07:

So my parents, so my mama used to make us dress. I used to hate it. But she's like, y'all are twins, y'all gotta look alike. I'm like, but mama with two different people. Nope. You gotta. So she would lay our outfits out. Sure enough, every day we look, we we look alike.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I understand it, but these are twin problems. You ever see that? Nobody ever understand it but a twin.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, I'm sitting up here like, yeah, welcome to therapy test. I'm sitting up here like, have you ever dressed like your girl? Oh yeah, me and my brother, you know.

SPEAKER_07:

Y'all don't understand shaking and shit in the nigga talking about if I hit you, will he feel it? Hey, but uh while you bring that up, uh you noing right now.

SPEAKER_01:

We didn't already find out you took one of his girls.

SPEAKER_07:

Nah, but they're gonna bring that back up. Hey, if I do say so, I was looking rather clean, cleaner than a whistle prom night. So, y'all might not know.

SPEAKER_01:

People got their prom picture. I still got it.

SPEAKER_07:

Oh, yeah, I got mine. Hey, well, let's bring one half more. Oh, I don't have it with me, but hey, bring it up. We're gonna put them on the ground. Let me see. Let me see if I can. Anyway, so back then, the boy was rocking the rolls, right? Cornrows. Hair was hair was here. For prom, I had my sister, you know, take the take the what you call it to it. The hot comb? The hot comb to it. Oh shit was right here.

SPEAKER_01:

But I had to slick that bitch back because Nigga, you was looking like Max Julian and Vampire in Brooklyn, nigga. I can't.

SPEAKER_08:

You had a perm? Had a ponytail. I can't picture it. But yeah, pretty much. Damn, pretty much. You had a perm, nigga? Pretty much. So hold on, hold on, hold on. So you got a picture?

SPEAKER_07:

Let me see if I can find it. Let me see. Probably. Oh my god. Vampire in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_01:

This nigga was looking like Jermaine Stewart. You ain't got to take your clothes off. Hey, if y'all know Jermaine Stewart, look up the video. And look how his hair is. That cat's hair was laid out. You was prettier than a mall. Hey. Man, yeah, yeah. Like, hey, like Cat Williams.

SPEAKER_08:

Man, you was pretty, huh?

SPEAKER_07:

I don't like so the uh the tux, right? The tux was white. The vest was red, shoes was white, socks was red. My girl, red dress.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you play Johnny Gill? No, of course. Put on your red dress.

SPEAKER_07:

I didn't, but I'm trying to think. Johnny Gill. So you're seeing sweet perfume. It might have been past that. I'ma uh I'ma see, I'ma see if my mom.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, we're gonna we're gonna find our little prom pictures. Yeah, I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna go. I think I took a picture at one point. Huh? You know where yours is? Hell no.

SPEAKER_07:

I think I know where mine is.

SPEAKER_01:

I know where mine is. Hey, for all the chicks that's uh, you know, married and moved on now. Oh, we apologize, but you're gonna have to ask for consent because you was in the picture.

SPEAKER_07:

You see, now they be doing way too much for prom.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, them promposals and all that. Yeah, they damn it's a good idea. I didn't even ask. It's just assume like a proposal. Like a proposal. Like, will you go to the prom with me? They call them promposals. Oh, she was she was my girl, so no, that's what that hey, that's what I'm saying. But even you still gotta do a promposal. Even if it's your girl nowadays, everything you gotta do everything from the ground. All you niggas that sit up here talk about, oh, you need proof and all that. Dog. Just know me and Halle Berry was kissing yesterday. I need proof. You don't need proof.

SPEAKER_07:

Man. Nah.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm lying because Halle Berry does have a boyfriend. We just bring her up. Yeah. So we don't want to get Halleberry. Oh.

SPEAKER_07:

Y'all ready? We need to do it. G cute! Y'all ready? G cute. Pass it to the left one time.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_07:

You can't really see the hair, but just know the hair is slicked.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah, dah.

SPEAKER_08:

God damn. Man. Yeah. God damn, this nigga look like Alexander O'Neill. Yeah. Can't tell me shit.

SPEAKER_04:

That nigga cleaner.

SPEAKER_08:

Damn, nigga. Cleaner than a whistle, ain't he? That nigga looked like he was ready for the world.

SPEAKER_00:

Who the hell?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh shit. So you got you little light-skinned thing. Was that a lot? Was she a Latina? A Latina. Latina.

unknown:

What up?

SPEAKER_06:

Latina.

SPEAKER_01:

What up? She's a Latin. Basketball booty. What a meat. Back before the uh That was your girlfriend? Yeah. Oh, okay. So ain't nobody got asked if you hit, huh? Oh shit. Ain't even a question.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, man. Don't be like Joe.

SPEAKER_03:

Statue of Limitations is over. Oh.

SPEAKER_07:

Man, I wish I could see the hair though. Man, I know, right? She's still around or? Oh yeah, we still cool. Oh yeah? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's my girl. She ain't going nowhere. Neither am I. Look at y'all. Yeah, man. Wait, did you have a white shoe and a black shoe on? Nah, nah, nah, nah. They were both white. Oh, okay. They were both white. The white tucks and everything. With the lapel and everything, huh? I think I had a black. I know I know my tuck was black. I think I had a blue vest. Or no, it was green. It was a green vest. Oh yeah? Yeah. And I took Ufy, Uofy Sakamar. She was yeah, she was Samoan. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I was about to guess wrong. I was I was thinking Ethiopian or something. I was gonna say Becky.

SPEAKER_05:

Becky with the good.

SPEAKER_01:

Becky with the good, right? Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

She was Samoan.

SPEAKER_07:

She was.

SPEAKER_01:

But there it's a lot of Samoans up there, right? Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_07:

A bunch. Oh yeah. A bunch of Samoan. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the Seattle culture. Nah, that's true, right? Yeah, no, Oregon. What was their name? Ufy. Ufy, huh? That's crazy. I remember I went to uh one of the UW football camps.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, and there's probably a bunch. I was the smallest motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, them dudes.

SPEAKER_07:

The smallest. Going up against six, eight linemen and shit. Like, you need to eat, son. For real. Man. Yeah, there's a lot of Pacific Islanders up there. A bunch. There was a gang of uh Samoan cats on my on my football team uh western New Mexico. Cool as hell. They invited me to the cookout. Boy, them looking at Raiders. A whole fish, eyes included. Man, that was some of the best eaten I'd have ever done. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Man. I had one with with uh like the whole fish in Puerto Rico. You just cut the head off. They could the head everything.

SPEAKER_05:

They're very like Latino. They're very family oriented. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

What's crazy because you saw that video that um Demetrius sent. So they have what what's that? What is that called? Um anyway, so it's they do these heads-up competition now where one guy has a ball and the other guy what is that called? I can't think of what it's called. It's a name for it. Them motherfuckers is crazy. Man, ain't no way in the hell I'm doing that. No way.

SPEAKER_02:

They run at each other, they run at each other, and it's just called the bull ring. It's just a collision. Instead of getting up, they just start like this and go.

SPEAKER_07:

Because it's what, like a like 10 yards between them. Yeah, they gotta find out. So why would you do that? Something like that. Same reason motherfuckers get slapped in the face for sport now.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't wanting to do that when we had equipment on. I'm like, hey, listen.

SPEAKER_02:

I ain't trying to get hit across the middle, man. You gotta sit me on the flat rock. Oh, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm talking no, in the game, I'm not talking about that. I'm though, nigga. That's just sitting up there. You know you hitting each other.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

A game, I could care less. I'm saying you just sitting up there like just disaster. Okay, now I know I'm about to get hit. So run it leave. Like when you know it ain't coming, run it, leave. Oh, that's damn, that's damn insane. Nope. Hell no.

SPEAKER_07:

Nope. They both knock each other out. No, you see that? I don't even know. Like, who's signing up for that? They are. Not me. I ain't seen no one other than Pacific Islanders do it. I think I seen a couple niggas do it. Oh, you saw a couple niggas do it? Big, but yeah, I think I seen a couple niggas do it. Man, I'm too old for that shit. I found the Raiders jacket. You found a Raiders starter?

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, I seen the Onk Race. Who sent that one out? The Onk Race. Man, that shit was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01:

Is that the dude? The dude pop is uh He pulled up.

SPEAKER_04:

He turned it on like he was gonna be fast as hell. That motherfucker, ah, three steps in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

Pull that Kevin Hart, huh? At some point you got another one. He talked about that. That's right. Yeah, he talked about that on uh I'm gonna check that out.

SPEAKER_02:

What's up when the unks go to races, man? They always gotta do it at every family union. All the unks got to say, boy, back in my day, I still dust your ass.

SPEAKER_01:

That's so funny, because that'll be me. I ain't gonna pop nothing though. It's funny when you out of shape.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You should be sitting there be like, y'all need to sit y'all's old. That's when Ronnie, remember when Ronnie raced Chris?

SPEAKER_03:

Man, that's your party.

SPEAKER_01:

That was at your party? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

That shit was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01:

No, we're gonna I-17 and Bell. Listen, Ronnie gets tipsy. I did not know. Now, listen, I'm sure he was fast back in his heyday. But this dude will sit up here. Man, you are ex-collegiate athletes. Went to school. I was for their tape it, right?

SPEAKER_03:

And uh I tried to tape it, and that motherfucker said, so Chris just dusted them, man.

SPEAKER_01:

Shout out to RJ, man. Ronnie always That was hilarious, man. Man, we gotta get RJ on here. Man, I put$100 on the shit.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, man, we're taking out these cartoons. We do it right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Dog hey, like the whole party was outside. Everybody was outside. What do you need to catch?

SPEAKER_03:

It was fast, man.

SPEAKER_02:

You ain't fast. You ain't fast, dog. I'm telling you, you ain't fast.

SPEAKER_03:

He's like, I ain't racing him. But I beat you.

SPEAKER_01:

He said, I can't beat him.

SPEAKER_03:

He said, but I beat you. I beat the brakes off your ass.

SPEAKER_07:

Was Chris still kind of in shape back then?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but he was still like 50 pounds heavier. Okay. You know what I mean? Man, the shit. Chris is hilarious.

SPEAKER_07:

You can tell Chris is dog.

SPEAKER_02:

The shit was hilarious.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey.

SPEAKER_03:

I was like, man, the running. I thought you were gonna give him a run for his money, man. You ain't you wasn't even two steps.

SPEAKER_08:

He didn't pop nothing, did he? No, no, no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, good, good, good.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, what were you thinking about? Were you thinking about running or walking?

SPEAKER_01:

Everybody was cool, man. It was just that was.

SPEAKER_07:

Right, what's your fastest 40? Shit, I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_02:

I know I ran like a 4'8. I ain't fast. I'm just quick. I tell people that all the time. Like a 4-8. They're like, no, Steve, you fast, man. You fast. I was like, man, I ain't fast. I'm just quick. I'm quick to this point, quick to that point. I ain't fast, fast. I said that nigga fast, fast.

SPEAKER_07:

What was yours? Recorded uh 494. That's good. Yeah, that's real good.

SPEAKER_01:

You talk about uh D-lineman? Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Dog and that man, those dudes getting faster and faster.

SPEAKER_07:

Man, make my little shit seem pedestrian.

SPEAKER_01:

Like when you be you be seeing, you know, some of them cats out there running like four fours and four or fives. You'd be like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

That's I I don't think I think the uh the the D-lineman position done changed. Obviously, it has because it's like these rush dudes, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, no. They're basically David changed the position on Matt and Edge. So it's on Madden. Yeah, I call it a defensive end.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah, it's an edge.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's called edge rusher.

SPEAKER_07:

It's a it's it's basically big ass Vernon Davis motherfuckers playing defense. Look at my look at Miles Garrett. Yeah, look at look at Miles Garrett. And didn't Miles Garrett run like a 4-3-4-4? I would still say Miles Garrett is a defensive end, just because he's big as fuck. Yeah, but he's fast. Him, Michael Parsons? Yeah, Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons. Those dudes are ridiculous. It's just, yeah, no, those dudes, I mean, because then you got the line, the offensive linemen who still got the gut and stuff like that. But these D these D rush ends or edges, man. Edge rushers. Edge rushers. Them dudes. They're basically just outside linebackers, just putting them on. Yep, putting their toe, putting their finger down. So it's pretty much like a three technique and a nose now. Yeah. Like that's it. That's it. And even them motherfuckers are freakishly fast. Like them niggas run like four eights, four sevens.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

That's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01:

To be that big and run that fast. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

18 miles per hour. Shit, that's about my top speed. You sitting up here thinking, like, man, why is this dude running after me?

SPEAKER_04:

You too big. Quit playing. Quit playing.

SPEAKER_03:

Stop playing. You shouldn't be able to run this fast, man. Mama come get me. I need a ride. Jump on jump on the hood of the car. Pew.

SPEAKER_07:

But that's just how the training is now, you know. It's training. It's speed. Man, I forget who I was talking to this week. But uh it says something about oh, uh a friend of mine, she was in the military. She was going to into boot camp, but she had uh she got discharged because she caught pneumonia. And I was asking her about how the training was back in I think oh eight, oh nine. And she said it's just it was just you know your basic calisthenics. Push-ups and pull-ups and set ups and all that shit and running. She said, now it's way different. So I'm thinking like, damn, the knowledge back then didn't compare to shit at today. And that was just what, 17 years ago? Not only the knowledge, but the technology. Yeah, right. Yeah, so it's it's everything is specific. Right? So you you want to train for speed, they're gonna specifically train you for speed.

SPEAKER_01:

Like you just think, even they they trained way different. Yeah. When we used to get in, squat as much as you can squat. Yeah. Pinch as much as you can bench. Power now. I mean, you can still do some of that stuff, but man, training is so uh positioned or sports specific.

SPEAKER_07:

Even with the military, she said that she was watching some stuff on TikTok and she sees that the military is lifting weights now. Like the military is getting it in like like the like the athletes. Except I guess the uh the Marines, they still believe in push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, and run.

SPEAKER_01:

That stuff is it's still that stuff is good, man. Like, man.

SPEAKER_07:

I know, like with my son, when he was hockey, I mean, they would put him through like sport specific stuff, like and he would explain to them like this is you know, it's different from basketball and different from football because you have to use your edge work. So they do a lot of just like side to side, lateral push off that because they have to you know, you watch hockey ones watch hockey, so everything is quick lateral edge work, push-off stuff, or you know, hooping jumping. Right? So I would I would have quote hooping uh more kind of like soccer. Like a lot of start a lot of start and stop. Yeah, and and but still constantly moving.

SPEAKER_01:

In soccer, I remember uh this one guy was saying depending on your position, you can kind of chill a little bit, yeah. Like once.

SPEAKER_07:

The ball go down and like you know obviously I mean not even being goalie, I just mean because I think there are positions that's not there is a position that like stops at the midline and they don't go no further. Yeah, defensemen usually stop pretty much at the midline. Oh really? And then they'll like you said they don't really go that much further because they gotta get back just in case. But yeah, it's it's soccer, just a lot of endurance. That's a fun that's a fun game to watch. You think so? Yeah. What soccer? Yeah, I've been to a few of the Phoenix Rising games. Oh, yeah. They're pretty exciting. Is it? Mm-hmm. You know what makes it exciting though is the people. Yeah. Because it feels like soccer fans really get into it. Because they're always moving, always jumping up and down. You ever been to a rising game? I've never been to a rising game. I haven't. They got a they got a band. I've never been to a soccer game. That's at the uh, I think it's the south end of the of the stadium. When I tell you that band doesn't stop playing from the start to the finish. And I mean when motherfuckers are walking out, they're still playing.

SPEAKER_01:

So is it a uh can can they eventually join like the MLS? I don't know. Or are they kind of like a feeder, like a feeder team. I wouldn't say they're a feeder to MLS team.

SPEAKER_07:

I wouldn't say they're a feeder, they're a pro league.

SPEAKER_01:

It's just no, but I'm saying, so can a can the large Los Angeles Galaxy come grab somebody and be like, we wanna put them on an MLS team? I really don't know.

SPEAKER_07:

Soccer's one of those weirdest players, right? Because you gotta they basically you have to buy contracts, right? So like when you talk about all those big name players like Ronaldo and stuff, and how like, what is it, like one of the Saudi teams or something like went and bought him from you know, from the other, but they had to pay like billions of dollars, whatever it was, to to acquire him. You know, you can't just trade. But I don't like you said, MLS I know is a little bit higher league than than what I think I think MLS is like the cream of the crop. Yeah, MLS is the biggest, is the biggest uh one here.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, outside of the world teams, yeah.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, no, the world teams is way better than MLS, but I I remember years ago, um I had when I was in Italy, I had an opportunity to go to a soccer game, and I kind of regret not going because over there, oh yeah, no, it's it's big stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

That's like track and field, like in Europe and stuff, it's humongous. People get stabbed. Like here. You know, they need to grow the sport, but and that's almost like with soccer. Uh like soccer and track is almost in the same boat. Like over here, you just kind of like uh it's like a niche sport, yeah. Yeah, like it's football, basketball, baseball. Like, do they know those, even even hockey. Outside of the Olympics, do they have like pro track leagues? Mm-hmm. They got the Diamond League. Yeah, they've they even have some uh some circuits here, they're trying to make it bigger, but the Diamond League is in Europe. Kind of like F1 versus NASCAR. Yeah, and F1 is starting to blow up here now. Yeah, because they just were going to Miami and Vegas and all.

SPEAKER_07:

Saw Beyonce and Jay uh Jay-Z and Beyonce there. Who saw that outfit?

SPEAKER_01:

Who would be?

SPEAKER_07:

God, I said I said, I wouldn't I said when the hell did Beyonce get that thick? I knew she had body, but God.

SPEAKER_01:

Shit, after them babies.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_07:

She got one or two. They got three kids. Oh shit. Blue Ivy. You only ever hear about that, about blue ivy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they got twin. Damn. Shout out to Beyonce. Shout out to Jay-Z. Over. Crazy, huh? No new movies? Nope. I saw uh Wicked! I saw Zootopia.

SPEAKER_01:

Two? Yep. Wicked, Zootopia. Actually, Zoo Zootopia is really. It's a movie called Eternity.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey, I know, I know your kids are pretty much grown and shit, but when's the last time you went to one of them kids' movies?

SPEAKER_05:

They have a lot of adult humans. It's been years.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, because I didn't see not really one kid or adult laugh at the jokes. They weren't landing with the crowd. Like I was laughing, but like it was a lot of references to some to some some classics. I can't think of the last like kid movie. I've never been to one. Yeah, I can't think of it. I'll say go check it out. Go check out Zootopia. That's pretty dope. It was a dope movie. I wasn't really. I like animated movies. I think they're well put together and a lot of thought goes into them. But it's like you said, there's a lot of adult humor.

SPEAKER_01:

I saw the balloon movie on TV. Uh up. Yeah. I saw that it was on TV.

SPEAKER_07:

Tell me that didn't get you the first few minutes. Man, got me.

SPEAKER_01:

Tell me it didn't get you. Oh, I ain't see it from the beginning. Oh, okay. I saw it in the middle.

SPEAKER_07:

It's gonna get you.

SPEAKER_01:

Actually, I'm lying about really seeing it. I'll probably only watch like 30, 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, don't watch those first 10 minutes. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01:

His wife died or something. Yeah, it's real, it's real heartwarming. Yeah. All them damn kid movies is sad. They got they got fucking. Why did they make them sad?

SPEAKER_07:

What was I watching?

SPEAKER_01:

I'ma make a kid movie. I think I cried at the end. You mess around, let a dog die. That's what I said. I can't watch the movies. Or Benji or Lassie get lost.

SPEAKER_07:

I cried at the end of Toy Story 3. That's when. When they were in the trash compactor? No. So that but that's when he grew up and he went away, right? So he gave he gave him away. I don't think I've seen Toy Story 3. Yeah, I haven't seen it. What movie? It was uh damn. It was one of those one of those um Hispanic movies that came out recently. Disney movie. Oh Moana? Nah, that's not Moana. That's Islander. Uh I never seen Moana though. Anyway. Dora. That shit.

SPEAKER_08:

Dora is doing.

SPEAKER_01:

We cancel. Trust me, I can't be canceled. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm enthralled in the community. Anyway, like towards the end of the movie, I knew exactly where they were going. Exactly where they were going. Why did that shit still get me? That shit still got me. I was like, motherfuck.

SPEAKER_02:

Man, you just in you just in touch with your sensitive side. That's all. No, I'm not Joe.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm not upset that I cried, but I was just like, damn, Disney, how the hell do y'all have this shit down? Got your ass. Got another one crying. Man. Grown ass man crying. Hey, tears with tears.

SPEAKER_01:

Disney wins again. All right, folks. All right,