Anxiety-Proof HER Podcast with Jennifer Bronsnick, MSW
Anxiety-Proof HER Podcast with Jennifer Bronsnick, MSW
Anxiety-Proof Her Interview with Amira Ruby
I am thrilled to talk to my new friend, Amira Ruby. On the episode she shares her powerful tools for healing from a stressful time in her life. We also talk about how she has used Human Design to deepen her self awareness to address anxiety and stress.
Learn more about her and get her free gift at https://www.amiraruby.com/intentions.
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Welcome to the anxiety proof her Podcast, where amazing women come for education, inspiration and hope around healing from anxiety. Each month, you're going to hear from other women who took control of their mental health by using outside the box holistic strategies to cope with their anxiety and to ultimately thrive. You will also learn from experts in the health and wellness industry, about the tools they use every day to help their patients reclaim their well being. We hope this information allows you to see that there are many different paths to healing. I'm your host, Jennifer Bronsnick. And I'm a licensed clinical social worker, and anxiety treatment professional. I help women and teen girls who struggle with anxiety, self doubt, and perfectionism to tap into their innate resilience, get to the root of their fears, and implement custom healing strategies so that they can experience peace of mind, more self confidence and be liberated from the suffering that living with anxiety causes. I have lived with anxiety my whole life, and know how hard it can be. I also know that there is hope. And it's 100% treatable with the right information and support. Thank you so much for showing up for yourself and taking the first step to reclaiming your well being and resilience.
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Welcome to the anxiety proof her podcast. And as always, that we get started by grounding and centering ourselves, especially I'm recording this right around the end of the full moon. And so I have been feeling a lot of energy, we'll put it that way. And a lot of vibrations happening. So just take a moment to put both feet on the floor. If you can safely there's no need to close your eyes, you can leave them open. But if your body is calling for just a pause a moment of rest, and I invite you to close your eyes and begin to just settle into your chair, your bed, wherever you are hearing this message right now. And just allow yourself to feel fully supported, fully supported by the chair, the earth the floor. And maybe even sending just a moment of gratitude to the gravity that holds us on to this beautiful earthly plane that we are all sharing. And then just allow your breath to begin to breathe on its own and you might want to direct your attention to your heart center. And imagine the breath is flowing in an out of your heart center. And if you can, the feeling that is coming through me in this moment is joy. And so if you can just picture a place or a time that brings you joy and allowing yourself to re experience that in your body
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so it permeates all the cells and leaves you with a joyful heart which you can take with you as you listen to the rest of this divinely inspired episode and the rest of your day. So today I am thrilled to talk to my new friend, Amir Ruby and a mirror I connected with an origin which is Kate Northrop's community. And she always has insightful, thoughtful kind things to post for other members, especially around Human Design, which if you are one of my friends or someone that's known me a while you know that this tool was super transformative for me. So I love when other people are spreading the powerful awareness that can come from understanding who you truly are, which is really, America's vision is to be, and live and explore as her fully beautiful self, by exploring different worlds and music and creating all of these things for others, as well as you know, giving back to others sort of like mirroring the goodness in all of us. And so I'm really excited to because I haven't heard her story yet. So I am really, really honored that you agreed to join me today. So thank you, welcome. Thank
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you, Jennifer, for having me for this beautiful introduction. And this wonderful ground in practice. It's something that I needed to, you know, given the full moon, so it was a treat for me to I close my eyes and meditated. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, glad
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to be here. Yeah, so
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tell me
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a little bit. So this is obviously a podcast about anxiety, mental health. But looking at it from this outside the box, where it's, we're not always talking about the traditional, like, if you have anxiety, it's, you know, a therapist and medication. And I really wanted to spread this message of, you know, other healing practices. So I would love for you if you feel comfortable to share your own awareness around anxiety and a little bit about your journey through this process.
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My pleasure. So the interesting thing very, very often when we need something, you know, when we feel like we need to heal, or do something to feel better, we don't know what it is exactly that we need to do, right? Where very often we're experiencing whether it's trauma, or anxiety, or something is going wrong with us. And we're looking for some tips for something to give us relief, right, but we don't know what that is. And, and it's a beautiful dance, to dance with the universe to allow the right thing for us for our healing, to come to us and receive it. And for me, this is one of the mysteries of how the universe works, right. And it's really beautiful. So Ah, I have been through several traumas in my life. And there was a time where I really needed help. And, you know, I tried to find ways to feel better. And one of the first answers that came to me from the universe was meditation. Meditation helped me, you know, feel a relief and liberate myself from consequences of my traumas in a in a very beautiful way. I didn't need it to be, you know, I didn't need to pay incredible amounts of money for it. I didn't need to go look for experts around the world, you know, and it was beautiful. It was easy. That's what I mean. And it came to me, I received it, I trusted it, I practiced it. And it really helped me so much. So here, I guess what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to picture my healing journey, my healing path. So everything started with meditation. Was it a specific kind of meditation? Do you mostly I picked the first Well, I have always had like the picture just like many people do before they really practice of the Buddhist setting. I'm sure. There's not just one, but I but I never thought I could access it. I thought it was something super complicated. And then I and then I crossed the teachings of Abraham Hicks of Esther Hicks, who teaches meditation basically and in her old her YouTube videos very often she shares her her technique and it's basically just sit in with your mind and just trying to detach from your thoughts. At first, it sounds very abstract. But then you practice a new find your own way. And it's okay that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work but the the benefit of of, of meditating even few minutes a day is huge. And I need it every day. Sometimes. You know, I My mom, I have kids and you know, life and everything. So sometimes I can meditate five minutes, sometimes 15 an hour, and it's all good to take.
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Yeah. I love that. Thank you for saying that. Because I think sometimes people stop, because there's this idea, like, you have to sit for 45 minutes and like, let your kids run around you while you're in Lotus. This, you know, idea that just never works for me. Like, I just can't, that doesn't bring me joy, right. So I love that I really appreciate you saying that it's okay to do five minutes. Like it's okay to do two minutes, whatever you can get in is this perfect? Absolutely.
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This is, you know, this has been my experience. And sometimes I, you know, the day goes by night, I didn't sit to meditate. And I just close my eyes for a few seconds, I breathe. And I set the intention that this is my meditation of the day and just breathing just taking those few seconds is enough. So from meditation, and always, thanks to Abraham Hicks, she, she mentioned journaling in her teachings and I started journaling. And I started emptying Well, first of all, we are very shy when we start journaling. You know, we don't, we don't trust the paper, we don't trust our words, we don't know what to write. And so it was nice to start with her technique because she offers blessings, a blessing, gratitude practice. So, Brian, what you're grateful for. That's, that's a good prompt, you know? So I was doing gratitude lines for a while. And then I met Julia Cameron's teachings and her journaling technique that three pages, and then three pages was a little bit more complicated. But then along the way, you know, with practice, I, I know I trust the page so much, that I just come and put everything I have in my mind. And then you and then you're, you know, you'll feel light. Yes, you create space in your mind, you create space in your being. And those things are attached to those thoughts, those feelings, those ideas, they are safe in your journal, and you can go explore something now and let life happen, you know?
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So can you just talk a little bit about like, I would love to hear like, Do you notice like, Okay, I'm in this state? And then I do my journaling? And I shift like, is it? Do you think it's a more of like an immediate shift? Or do you think it's more of a takes a couple of weeks to get to notice any difference? from your experience?
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I feel like there are two parameters, the first parameter, it depends how long you have been practicing journaling as a way of shifting your emotions, if you are used to this practice for this purpose. The other parameter is where in the scale of emotions you are, are you you know, super angry, are you super, it depends on the extremity of the emotion you're going through. So the sooner I catch this, this, this this thing, you know, negative emotion, let's label it like this, the sooner I catch it in the beginning, and the sooner I go to the page and just pinpoint what is it that makes me feel like this. And just put everything down on my paper on my page, the better. Wonderful, but if I have what would be the expression if I have let Yeah, if I lead this, this, this situation, these feelings. If I stay with them for too long, then even going to the page isn't going to my journaling. Practice is complicated. I think it's the same for everything for yoga or meditation. When you stay away from these wellbeing practices for a long time, then sometimes it's difficult to go back to them even if you're not feeling an intense emotion. So even going to the patient is difficult, but I know this will help me so I just like taking the child to do something they don't want to do. I just imagined like I hold my hand and we go to the page, you know, and I just tried whatever comes to me, you know, if I, if I want to write about the emotion itself, and it's okay if I want to write about something else, but just start and trust the paper, trust the words and start putting those things on the page at any time then give myself this time.
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I'd love that he mentioned that resistance. I think that that is something that comes up for all of us. It's like, we know,
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we know what's
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going to help us, like, we know that all the things and there's the just sometimes this block of like, Why can I just do this for myself, like, I find it a lot around tapping, which is a tool that I have, you know, had for years. And like, I have to be like really struggling in order to like, get the tapping going. But, like, if I did it every day, likely, I probably wouldn't get to that point of like, okay, now it's the tapping emergency if there is such.
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That's so interesting. I don't know why we do that. But human, you know, when we're feeling good, you know? Yeah. Our, I don't know if it's the ego, but at least a mind that goes like, you know, you don't you don't need this today, today, you can go something else, and then, you know, one day after another and then you start feeling it.
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Yeah,
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yeah, it just adds up. Like our diet, or you know, any other thing. It's that it's not that one cookie, It's the Year of cupcake that we've all had, like,
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I love this example. And I know that you mentioned tapping as well, because I believe that we all need to experience and play with those beautiful, beautiful techniques and solutions that exist around the world. And I truly believe that they're not like, you don't need to practice learn and, and master all of them to feel good. Like, I feel like we need to try to experience to play with them and some, and we're going to pick those that we you know, that we most like or that work best for us. I tried topic and honestly, I don't know, doesn't like I don't even I don't know, I don't know what you're saying. That's,
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that's great that you tried though, and had that awareness of like, you know what, it's not getting me what journaling does for you. Yeah, it's interesting.
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Yeah, they're there and I didn't look for the reason so much like is it the language because English is my third language? And I when I was learning when I learned about typing, it was in English, so maybe I should try it with one of my two other languages? Or I'm not sure.
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So I'd love to hear it let's let's do an experiment when you to come back and then tell me like was it different? And because that would make sense to me that your first language maybe that would you activate those feelings or the truth a little bit more? Or like get like, you know, really in there?
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So absolutely, you might be the combination of the movement, that topic and the language that makes it weird, but in English I do I generally, okay. Okay. I'm not sure. Anyway, that's another topic. So get into human design. Journal and I have been journaling for now in a consistent way approximately six years. And it's, it's something that I need to do everyday otherwise my mind gets so full of ideas and thoughts and emotions and I'm I get overwhelmed. I definitely need to write and it's been approximately almost a year now that I have been journaling about my purpose, my values, my calling. And I was writing keywords, I have been writing the word human humanist, humanist thoughts and yeah, so it's mainly and, and also I have been specifically writing that I wanted to manifest a tool that helps me with my intuition. Mm hmm. And then and then I started to see around me and social media and so on the the name of human design was like the first time I didn't pay attention the second Okay, and then the third time, start to ask myself some questions. I found it so interesting to find, you know, to see it to have come to me that had the word human in it. And that was somehow a decision making tool. No, it is a decision making tool and an intuitive tools, you know, not that much intuitive, but you know, esoteric, and a little bit mystical. So, yeah, it's like, unusually, I'm definitely not an early adopter. I am more of the others. Try it. Let it make its proof. You have
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doubt in your chart?
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Probably, yeah, probably under Remember, all my gates might be there. But this time, I was like now. Now, I'm going to be an early adopter for this. If the term early adopters is correct, because some people have been working with this tool for 20 years now. Right? Yeah. And I went for it. I started by working on my own charts. I did my whole like my chart and started. I don't I don't I wouldn't say that I make readings for the moment. But I I definitely introduce people to the system. Yeah. explain to them how the system works. And today, people can just have their charts for free on many websites. So together, we look at the main elements of the chart, and I just go give them the big picture.
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So how would you say, cuz I know, for me when I learned about human design, and I got an email from someone who is always an early adopter, my friend, Simone. And it said, Do you want to understand your unique energy signature for success. And it was that invitation as a projector, once I learned more about that, that I just had so much more self compassion, like I had, I feel like I'd spent years years beating myself up for being lazy. Because I, you know, didn't want to work like everybody else around me. And I grew up with manifesting generator, parents, and so that, you know, deep conditioning that, like, I have to work, like, you know, the generators, basically, and the shame that like, why can't I do this? Like, why do I need all these breaks? Or why does it feel like I'm chasing after people, because that was a big theme, especially when I was younger, like, you know, I always felt like I, I ignore the people that recognized me and chase after the ones that were the challenge. And so that for me, so I wonder, do you have anything like that like that type of like, aha, yeah, I
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got so much my first revelation. And you might, you might laugh at this. When I read my, the elements of my chart, I was like, Oh, my God, I wrote my chart in my journaling, like I wrote the things, not not the labels of the chart, of course, but the elements that are part of me, I have them in my journal, because I journaled, so deep. And I have been so true and honest, in my journaling, that I have seen myself in the mirror, and it was amazing, too. It was just amazing to to come up with this picture, in my journaling. Of course, I didn't, I didn't write that I'm a manifesting generator, because who comes up with such a definite, you know, expression, but but all that I have the love in tech, you know, the gate of of, of grace
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and Grace 1222
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and music. Yeah, I have. Yeah. And, and I'm a singer and a writer. And again, I have the gates of what is it called? I have I have troubles with names.
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Oh, from the emotional center from
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1222. With, with where humanity and the, you know, the parameter of humanity is so important like humanity in my chart is definitely something activated. I have like when I realized I was a humanist at heart, you know, and, and an artist and and all those major things that are in me, I have written them in my journal and found them in my, in my, I love that chart and it's so relieving to, to find this coherence and this harmony between the answers we give ourselves in, you know, those moments of total honesty involve Oh, and I have the gate of vulnerability who gets okay. Yeah, you know who we, I mean, this is crazy. And that a tool like human designed, and I'm, and I'm always like I'm a believer, I believe in God. So for me, when I heard the the person who challenged the Human Design speak about it, it was very scary because there are aspects of human design that there it was very scary for me that are not compliant with mana monotheistic our beliefs. Yes. I was like, do I want to go with this? And I have meditated and journaled on it for for for a few days to get my answer. And actually, I have, I came up with this meditation, this prayer, to really set the intent of using human design as a tool to do good. And to help people. Yeah. And really set the intention that it if it has been revealed for for evil, then we're gonna use it for it to do good. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if that makes sense. But that's that these are the feelings these are the this is what my intuition warned me Our or our signal to prayer that I say, you know, before using human design or before introducing it to someone. And I also haven't recorded this moment dictation to maybe people who would have the same, the same intuition or the same feeling trust that we use it for, for the good.
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Yeah, it's funny that you say that, because I went through the exact same experience, they're very, very similar. What I first it was, because there are teachers, there are people that you know, speak of Human Design in such a way that it activates fear within me. And I knew, but yet, you know, similar to your struggle, it was like, but this is so helpful to me, like this made me like fall in love with myself again. So, like, if that's my story, like, can't that be true for other people like to understand themselves in this way, even though so I generally recommend that people don't go down a rabbit hole with human design, and they, you know, find just like you, I'm sure you did, like, find those teachers, those mentors that speak about it. And the word that was coming through was, as you were speaking was just integrity, like, being an integrity like, is this, you know, are you using it for light? Are you using it for love? Are you using it to create more grace and beauty and are in the world like, to me, like, there's nothing more important than those things? And so I just think it's so interesting that we both win sort of through
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that
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process,
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you know, how we attract the like, absolutely. Yeah, I am happy to hear you say that, because it's the first time I'm sharing it with a human design, you know, with a person who knows Human Design very well. And I was thinking, oh, maybe I'm totally crazy for imagining such things. But I think, you know, I heard things that were clear to me and I really needed to make things clear in terms of my intention, but to speak on a more down to earth. If we can speak in in Delhi's terms about human design, when I found that when I found that my my authority is emotional, for example. Okay, so what does that mean? It means that regarding one same thing, I go through a you know, through a wave of emotions from I absolutely love it, too. I hate it. regard didn't one same thing. So right. And then I was oh my god, you know, it explains so many haze. It just explained that I'm not bipolar, you know? Yeah, yeah. It, it felt so. And I was surprised because I really thought that my authority was more splenic. Because I am very, I have always thought of myself as someone being intuitive. Yeah, it's not. So this is one
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thing. Everyone's intuitive.
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like
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everyone's intuitive and that that is so Human Design The simplest, you know, I guess, thing to come from it is get out of your head. Because intuition is not in your head. It is in your feelings. It is in your gut. It's in the instantaneous like, I'm a splenic projector and I have I have will defined so I have a motor. So you know, I can push through and sometimes miss my spleen. That's like,
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do it. I was like,
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Yes, we're doing it.
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I feel like splenic is one of the most tricky. It is so quiet, subtle. Yeah. So now I want to my partner told him Hey, listen, you know what, I have an emotional authority. So it's normal that I change my mind all the time.
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My cycle track it.
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Okay, what does that mean? I'm gonna tell you. And so it felt really felt like a relief. Because before I started meditating, and journaling, I was combat like, battling against those emotions battling against them. Like, it was, I hated myself for being like, in the dark places have emotions, for no reason. Yeah. And you're on your chart just does your there's no reason for it. That just this is how you were made. So just wait for the cursor, just wait for the wave to, you know, to, to go away. And then you will know how you feel about, you know, that thing? That is?
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Do you notice that you journal more when you are lower on your wave? Or what do you notice for yourself? I don't have a wave. So I'm really curious. Like, is it? Do you feel like you are more creative?
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Well, definitely when the you know, let's say the wave goes up and down. When it's up when I'm at the best of the way when everything is so beautiful. I'm like, I have an I have a defined head center. Okay. Like so many. So many ideas come to me innovation, things like I need to write everything down. And I'm so excited and life is beautiful. And just as you can guess, when it's the opposite when I'm, you know, at the bottom of it when everything is so dark. Like I lose, it's depression. It really is depression. Like there's no other word for it. Yeah. And the good thing with with journaling and meditation, I reduced the well the duration of these periods, to last four, oh my god, I could spend a week or 10 days in this state. And now it's a matter of a day to three days. So Wow. Yeah.
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I think also, you know, what sort of it sounds like and correct me if I'm wrong, but knowing that it's a wave, it lets you know that it's temporary, and it's not going to be that way forever, that sometimes I feel like we get like, it's a spiral of like, wait, I'm low on my wave, but I don't know, it's a wave. So I think it's now my it's my state forever. And then we panic, and it's like, what do we do? Like, let's figure out, you know, rather than just saying, like, I'm just going to be sad for a little bit, and quiet or do I art or whatever it is. And, you know, like in a couple days, but I think it's wonderful that you have figured out. These are actually things that support me when I'm low on my wave so that it does move a little bit faster. So it's not that you don't have any control. And I think that that is such an important mindset to have absolutely. Everything. Yeah, so I wanted to ask, let's say someone is just hearing this information for the first time. Where would you say start here? What is like one thing that That could really take someone, I don't know, just one step closer to the life that they want.
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I don't know if this is, I truly believe that, if you are just looking for the next step to take, I wouldn't suggest any tool or technique, I would just suggest, to be kind to yourself. Because this, you know, when you because we put so much sometimes when we're feeling down bad, where we put so much pressure on ourselves, to get ourselves out of this, that we are not open to the solutions that we are not totally available to whatever can come to us and help us. And I truly believe that I know, it's not an easy thing to do. And I don't know how to tell people to I don't know how practically to advise people to do it, you know, that might be being kinder to yourself, could mean so many things. For example, if today you had three things on your to do list, well, maybe just one is enough, you know, what, what
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did you do? Be kind to yourself? What would your thing what would your thing be to be kinder to yourself?
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I think this is me reflecting back Of course, I you know, so hard to just have the right thing to yourself when you're in the middle of something, but I would have told myself when I was putting so much pressure on me not to try to prove anything to anyone or get approval. So that was that was that was the thing that was putting so much pressure and anxiety and, and resulting in so much anxiety for me I was trying to, to show proof that I was good enough that I was especially, you know, I moved I moved countries and I I left my country and I felt like I had to I had to you know prove that I was worth the environment I was living in and I i put so much pressure in in fitting in showing that I was good enough and seeking approval. And I wasted so much energy. Maybe not time because I tried you know everything I was doing meant something for me but there's so much energy
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Yeah. So
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with that advice do you in our final moments have a message of hope that you would like our listeners to take with them today.
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Ah, my message of hope in these unprecedented times and we have heard such expressions so much all around the world. It is really that we're going to go through it together. And this too shall pass
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I feel that with more kindness with more ease and and and love really you know things are maybe not easier but let's say less traumatic and we are more resourceful, more creative, more available to each other. I truly believe that we will get stronger out of this So my message of hope is for everyone who has seen their their life turned up turned around you know in the last year or two to have faith if they're believers and to trust if they're not.
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That's that thank you thank you so much for sharing your story and your wisdom. Is there some way that people can find you if they want to learn more about your work and purpose in the world you
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thank you for for inviting me really I was so happy to to share and have this conversation with you this people can definitely I have a a freebie that I offer. If people resonate with that what I'm saying and if they want to join my my community I have a freebie which is an intention setting guide So, it's nothing complicated. It's a guide to help you work with affirmations and intentions in. I know some people have some resistance to affirmations. So I came with this guide to soften the resistance to affirmations and intentions and they can find this at www dot amyra rubi.com slash intentions. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you for being here and really appreciate and I love being in your energies. Thank you so much. So
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did I thank you. Bye, Jennifer. Bye.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to invest in your well being. I hope you learned at least one new idea or technique that you might want to implement into your own life. Remember, you're not alone, there is hope and with the right information and support you can thrive. If you're dealing with panic are looking for a step by step process that will allow you to break free from this crippling fear state. I want to invite you to check out my panic attack Survival Guide, you can grab your free copy at www dot Jennifer bronsnick.com Thanks for listening