Anxiety-Proof Her Interview with Luci Lampe

Luci Lampe is a mom of 4, sexual empowerment & mindset coach, award-winning singer and songwriter, commercial actress, lifestyle & fitness model, 3X author, and entrepreneur. Her writing has been featured on the Huffington Post, Forbes, Entrepreneur.com, CBS, and Fox.

After a 6+ year hiatus from the music industry, birthing two more little humans, overcoming an autoimmune disorder, and surviving hell as a family through her husband’s 2-year disability and depression, Luci returns with a bold, unapologetic message of freedom and courage. 

Professionally, she draws upon her studies and certifications in neurolinguistic programming, cognitive behavioral therapy, hypnotherapy, reiki, counseling, EFT tapping, and her degree in Exercise Science, to create unique, powerful programs and curricula for her clients and members.

Musically, she boasts a hooking pop sound with soulful, heartfelt vocals (think: The Weeknd meets Christina and Shakira). From confident and sexually empowered to tender and emotionally vulnerable, Luci exposes her pain, desire, surrender, and courage in her music like never before.

Learn more about Luci HERE and get her free download: https://pssypwrd.me/4-day-orgasmic-training

Thank you so much for tuning in!

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Transcript

00:03

Welcome to the anxiety proof her Podcast, where amazing women come for education, inspiration and hope around healing from anxiety. Each month, you're going to hear from other women who took control of their mental health by using outside the box holistic strategies to cope with their anxiety and to ultimately thrive. You will also learn from experts in the health and wellness industry, about the tools they use every day to help their patients reclaim their well being. We hope this information allows you to see that there are many different paths to healing. I'm your host, Jennifer Bronsnick, and I'm a licensed clinical social worker, and anxiety treatment professional. I help women and teen girls who struggle with anxiety, self doubt, and perfectionism to tap into their innate resilience, get to the root of their fears, and implement custom healing strategies so that they can experience peace of mind, more self confidence and be liberated from the suffering that living with anxiety causes. I have lived with anxiety my whole life, and know how hard it can be. I also know that there is hope, and it's 100% treatable with the right information and support. Thank you so much for showing up for yourself and taking the first step to reclaiming your well being and resilience.

01:35

Welcome to the anxiety prepare podcast. As always, we start by grounding and centering ourselves because what I'm hearing from a lot of people right now, if they don't feel grounded, they don't feel at home in their bodies. So just take a moment, just a few seconds to bring your full attention to the area of your heart center. And just begin to imagine that the breath is breathing in and out from your beautiful

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art center.

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Notice saying the feeling of your heart beating, noticing where it resides in your chest. And just really letting yourself connect with that natural rhythm that is always there for you. And then setting a quick intention that throughout this interview and the rest of your day, that anytime you start to feel in your mind or ungrounded or unsettled, that you can come right back into your beautiful heart center and reconnect with that space of love. As well as safety and security that's always there for you. So today I am really excited to share with you my friend Lucy. She is a mom of four a sexual empowerment and mindset coach. She's a singer songwriter, actress model, three times an author and obviously an amazing entrepreneur. her writings been featured in Huffington Post, Forbes, entrepreneur, CBS and Fox. And she actually took a six year break from the music industry to birth to more of her children. she overcame an autoimmune disorder and survived a really difficult time with her husband after he went through a two year disability and depression. And now she is back even better and stronger than ever. And in her work she draws upon her studies and certifications in neuro linguistic programming NLP, cognitive behavioral therapy, hypnotherapy, Reiki counseling tapping, she has a degree in exercise science and brings all of these amazing tools to her programs and curricula for her students. She also is an amazing singer, and you have to follow her on Instagram and Tiktok because she is so fun with her content.

04:40

So welcome, Lucy, thank

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you so much for accepting my invitation to come on the podcast.

04:46

Thank you so much for having me. I am really honored to be here. And I love that we've maintained our connection over these last I know at least two years since we've met in about two and a half years. Yeah, yeah. So thank you. So I want

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to hear a little bit about your journey, you know, I kind of want you to share a Where were you where, who you, were you in that place when you were going through that tough time with your husband, as well as your autoimmune disorder? And, you know, what was the process? Were you? How did you, you know, find the right healing tools? I think that's a question that we all have is like, what's the right tool? What's really going to get me what I desire in life?

05:33

Yeah, and there's, and there's no, you know, simple, clear cut answer for that, which, you know, but I'm happy to share what's worked for me. Yeah, a little more comfortable here, we're going to, we're going to talk about this. Okay. So, I, for a long time, I've been interested in alternative, you know, healing methods, but I was a little bit like, I don't want to get too woowoo and whatever. And when we first moved to LA in 2012, of course, you know, Southern California, everybody's been to alternative methods and, and Reiki and energy healing and, and got into the coaching industry. And there are all kinds of different, you know, tools and healing modalities that people use, especially here, and all the trainings have been in. And that would ultimately, really shook me was that was that that too, is what two and a half year period, where Ryan, just my husband, he all of us, we've been married for 14 years now a little over 14, almost 14 and a half years. He was always an active guy. He was, he used to be in the military, he was that person who would do the crazy, the crazy backflips and like, do six foot vertical jumps out of nowhere, where you're just walking down the street, you know, he was he was that guy. And he went from having this complete competence in his body to all of a sudden, things just started to hurt. And, and he was 20 something, you know, so it's like, what, why? What's happening? What's happening to me? And it wasn't getting better, and none of the VA specialists could figure it out. There was no No, no, no medical cause for it. And, I mean, now, as you probably are, have heard a lot of we discovered that there were some deep, deep, deep emotional, rooted things, some psychosomatic things, and that's what ultimately helped him to work through that and, and recover. So but but he didn't know what was going on. And I for me, I just, I lost my, my strong emotional rock, that if I was having a tough day, because I was the one who would dissociate and, you know, busy myself is my trauma response, that was our pattern. And he would help me to get grounded and present again, as best as I could. And and I didn't have that anymore. So I was I felt like I was in hell that that whole time not only taking care of the kids because he was the stay at home dad, he had gotten out of the military so I could pursue my stuff and he was stay at home dad. And and so I didn't have my, my my emotional and mental support that I was used to having. And honestly, it was very codependent on unhealthily dependent on so this, this, this broke me of that. And but I also had to continue working and taking care of the family. And all this pressure on like making my career work and my dreams and all this stuff, all while having no idea of really what was going on beneath the surface with my own unresolved traumas. So it brought all of that stuff to the surface really quick. Not only that, but we had two more kids during during that time, and I my body couldn't just keep going the same way that it had been going. So I started to have these intense flare ups of what they couldn't figure out what else to call but X amount but they were like, like little boils over my skin. all over my body. I couldn't sleep more than an hour, I would wake up with bloody sheets and pillowcases and spend 1000s of dollars on specialists and creams and ointments and steroids and all that had to quit nursing my youngest my last baby, way sooner than I expected. So I could be on oral medications. So during all this time, I just I felt I felt really trapped in my own body. I felt trapped in my life. I didn't know. Like none of the stuff that I was aware of was really helping me.

09:37

Yeah, like so like the surface coping tools that you'd had. It wasn't like it wasn't hitting where you needed the healing.

09:46

Exactly. That's not going to cut it anymore. Those were band aids. Yeah. And and so I remember when we first moved to San Diego and I would walk along the cliffs with our little bubbles. stroller but they were just babies a little ones. And and I thought something has to change, I if I can't change my circumstances, then I've got to change something inside of me. And I just I, you know, when you're so hungry for transformation and for change if for something better, and what whatever pain is out there, whatever uncertainty and fear of the unknown. It can't be worse than this. You know, when you get to that point, it's like, we'll just forget, forget it, I am going for it. And even if I can't be worse than this,

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yeah, that rock bottom.

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Yeah. And so I started to start. And that's when I discovered a lot of the healing tools and modalities that I use today and that I've used with clients throughout the year since then. Because I just, I was hungry for that I was committed to finding some kind of relief and some kind of solution. And pain is an extremely powerful motivator. So yeah, so that's one thing after the other, I would listen to my voices in my head, the self talk that I was getting for myself was not, was not helping me. So I put other voices in my head every single day, you know, those precious moments and the brainwaves in the morning, I would listen to Tony Robbins, I would listen to Esther Hicks, you know, whatever. And just get those those voices in my head, this is happening for you, not to you. You know, everything is for a purpose and not like that whole find the silver lining, crap, but toxic optimism Yeah, toxic activity, absolutely a thing, but to really do recognize that, that all pain doesn't have to be suffering. And that was a completely new concept to me. So I mean, it was just a matter of practicing and leaning into the pain and not trying to cover it up anymore and letting myself actually feel it. And, and work through it and heal through it. So

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can you talk a little bit about because I always feel like the right thing comes along, like right when you need it. And you just have to be sort of open and ready for it and listen to kind of these like, whispers of like, Oh, yeah, that's what I need. So how did the tools come into your awareness? Like, can you talk a little bit more, because I think people don't understand, like, it's not always this, like, seeking. It's that like, sometimes you're, you know, you're doing whatever your work or you're out in the world and you're living and then this thing comes in, it's like, I can't not know this. And it's like this, at least for me. It's almost like this obsession in a way. Yes, I need to go deeper here.

12:49

Okay, I just wanted to make sure like we were the same.

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Talk a little bit about

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how that felt in your body, that how you which thing you needed to go deep with?

13:04

So that's such a good question. Because we do feel it in our bodies. And the thing that like, we get so used to feeling not good in our bodies, it's a conditioned response to our environment for so long, that then we forget what it feels like to feel good. And so when something feels good, and it feels like a spirit, yes, you know, it might feel really, really subtle, like a very, a very soft curiosity. Like, oh, I wonder what would happen here. And the biggest thing that that gets in our way, I believe in what what I've seen is, is our fear of the unknown. And an over which can which can easily supersede our that, that quiet, that still small voice within. And but if the more that we trust ourselves, the more that we surrender to the process, it's this weird, let it's this weird paradoxical thing of surrendering and also committing, but committing first and foremost to our own path and listening to that voice, and aligning ourselves with where it's leading us to go. Instead of trying to force a certain outcome, that is when I finally got to heal my body. That's how I healed my body from that autoimmune disorder was by stop I stopped resisting it and fighting it. And so things Ryan and our marriage and his body the way that he did it with his body, stopped resisting what is and accepted that this literally is what it is, it doesn't mean that you're happy with it. You don't detach from your desire for something greater, but it's that you know, that paradox. So. So what I what I the way that I describe it to people is you listen to where in your usually it's either you feel it like in your heart space, or in your gut, or sometimes in your head, but I usually feel it in my gut or in my heart, when something feels like a yes, and it's a little bit like With a little bit scary, but also really exciting. And for me that the two things are usually mixed. I have a little bit of the fear and the excitement. Yeah, because it gets you out of your comfort zone. anything out of your comfort zone will obviously make you a little bit uncomfortable. Yeah, of course.

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Your egos gonna be like,

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yeah.

15:22

Yes. And the ego is not our enemy. But you know, the more that we learn to listen to it, this is something that I hear a lot in the spiritual communities is ego death. No, we literally can't, you can't do that. Because you're still a human body. But the more that you distinguish between that voice of fear, that's just that's, that's the ego wanting to keep you alive. And safe in the familiar even if it sucks between that voice and the voice of love and possibility and the inner wisdom that we all have. And so I used to, you know, listen to those subtle whispers like, where do you feel like, wow, this popped up? That was no, that was a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences. I I believe in synchronicities. And like you said, When you're ready, it appears. Just kind of kind of crazy how that happens, isn't it? Yeah.

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So you mentioned fear. And since this is a podcast about anxiety, I just wanted

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to unpack that a little bit more.

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So what are your so when those things came in? And you were in the state of like, fear excitement? Was there a process? Was there a mindset? What was it that allowed you to say like, Okay, I know you're here fear. And I'm still going to explore this.

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Yes. So the biggest thing that kept me going, actually, is I'm going to I'm going to replay I'm trying to figure out my headphone situation. Okay, no worries. One of my headphones just completely put on me. So there we go. He's still sound. Okay, good, sound good. So there has to be a vision. And the vision comes from the pain, when the pain gets to be, it gets to the point where, okay, the band aids are not working, whatever I've been doing to cope with, this is not going to cut it anymore. That again, that pain is a powerful motivator that creates the vision for Okay, if I don't want this, then what do I want? Well, first and foremost, I want you to get the hell out of here. Because this is hard. This hurts, this is horrible. And and you begin to move towards whatever it is that you want. And on the way you clarify more and more what that actually is, because a lot of times we are so, so disconnected from what we actually desire. We just know that we want to get away from the pain. So the pain can be actually a really powerful motivator to keep going even when it's scary, especially initially, because you're like, no, there's no way I'm going back there, I'm not going to experience that, again, I'm not going to be a victim to my circumstances, again, I refuse to do that. But at some point that there, there's this shift where what you want, becomes so compelling. And so, so you identify so much as a being with that vision, not a specific outcome. Like I want this specific career to work for me or this house, but who you are being aware of that sense of wholeness, and freedom and peace of mind. And that trusting yourself that you are capable of handling, whatever happens that you're going to be okay. And so it's that deep inner knowing. And for me, that's what has kept me going because I'm like, I know that I can be that person, I know that I can become that I know that I really am that it's just like all these things out all these beliefs, all these traumas, all these pains are just weighing me down. So that that's what's personally kept me going. I used to think that the thing keeping me going was other people. You know, like, Oh, I want to help these people. So I got to keep going for them. But truly, I don't know if you've heard have Have you heard of teal swan. Now? Oh, okay. She's a good way to look into it. She speaks again, to a certain one, he'll smile to like the dealer. Okay. Yeah. I got it. No, it's very, very, like spiritual, you know, right. spiritual guide person. But she talks about, I remember when she talked about how altruism is a myth. We don't do things for other people. Really. We do it because it gives us something. It gives us a sense of purpose, a sense of contribution, and some, you know, like, we're here and we're doing good and we're helping people. It feels good. It's not wrong.

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There's a hope. So,

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yeah, my god you right?

20:04

Like they've made themselves like sting

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get stung by a bee because it was like, Oh,

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I'm doing this because I'm a good person. because deep down we all want to, you know, prove I'm aghast and yeah, so,

20:18

you know brings up because I think what I love your tiktoks and reels because you talk a lot about shadow. And that to me is that like, part of that shadow is that like we especially as women, I'm sure men experience it too. But it's like this Be the good girl Be careful. Yes, sir. Beast, yes. Less like give of yourself and you will gain give give the kingdom of heaven or whatever the

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Yeah, like sometimes literally if, right? That's what I grew up believing. Right? Yeah,

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yeah. But yeah, underneath that, like, there's darkness and all of us that you know, like that we, the more we resist, the more it comes up to show us that it's there. Yeah, that there? Isn't this like one you know, perfect soul or perfect human? Being that we all have this shadow side? Can you elaborate a little bit more supplant doing it justice on? Oh, that shadow aspect? Mark? Yes,

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no. And you're doing it amazing. Okay, so this is I love that you brought this up. To me Shadow Work is quite possibly the most important thing that we can do in our human experience. I know that's a bold statement. I'm thinking about it. Now. I'm like, wow, is it is it I don't think I've ever said those words before, but I don't

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think it's true.

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And that's why he talked about it so much. That is really what helped me to turn my life around from being the victim and from being you know, feeling trapped in my life. And in my own body, and and I didn't know what Shadow Work that it was out of work at the time. But essentially, if you think of it as taking these parts of yourself that you think are unlovable, or that you have completely denied our that exists in the first place. And and you learn to accept them and love them and integrate them into who you are. because like you said, you know what you what you resist persists. And not only that, but it tends to act out bigger and louder and more dramatically until it is heard. A lot of times these aspects of ourselves that just want to be seen. And what they really need is our acceptance. They don't you know? So in short, the shadow is like this collection of aspects of ourselves that we have disowned, rejected, denied. Resist. Okay,

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so can you give like a specific example of like, what's two or one or two of those shadows that you would that many of us might experience?

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Well, yes. Okay. So one is selfishness. That's actually, you know, like speaking on the topic of altruism kind of, in the other way. So, selfishness, yeah, I was I grew up with a mother who was a martyr to everything, you know, service service service service, but then resentful that her needs weren't being met, but then pretending like she wasn't example because that was bad. So there was always tension, this passive aggressiveness and and then my father, who was you know, found out much later narcissistic, and he actually had mental disorders and, and things that as a kid, you know, to me, were just normal. Like, this is this my dad? And so I saw modeled for me exactly how to be a really good martyr. And selfless in the name of Christ.

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Yeah.

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Because that's what God wants you to do, especially as a woman. Right? Women just silent you don't you don't lead you just you serve. Yeah. Oh, my God, so much to unpack there. And believe me, it's been years of unpacking that. Yeah. But so, so selfishness. I remember how angry it used to get me when I was especially a teenager. And my mom remarried. And my stepdad would call me selfish, because I would get up at five in the morning to exercise and take care of my body. And I just felt like, you know, my body needed it. I didn't know at the time that I had all this trauma in my nervous system. And my body was just trying to literally move the energy through my body. I just knew that I had to move. And so but he called me selfish. Like, I'm not selfish. How dare you call me selfish. I do this and this and this. And this. Well, later, after I actually had my first two daughters, I began to actually explore my selfishness for the first time and give myself permission to to, like, let myself acknowledge that I am selfish and that it's not That the thing is that when we, when we judge something as being bad, or, or unholy, or ungodly, or whatever it is, whatever it is, that's what's really driving that narrative, right? When we, when we judge something, instead of just looking at it for what it is, then we cannot move into the acceptance of it. But when you can notice and be like, Okay, this is me, this is in me. And what that doesn't mean that this has to run my life. But actually, ironically, what it's doing as long as I keep denying it is it is ruining my life. So let's look at this. And I remember I sat down and um, there's this exercise that I really love to do for integration that I later learned was actually an NLP thing. When I did my NLP certification, and integration where you sit and you you visualize talking to that aspect of yourself. And I gave her name. And I was like, okay, you're, you're the selfish part of me. What is it that you really want? What is it that you really need? Like, what what are you missing from me? What is it that you need that I'm not giving you? Because, you know, we're the only ones who can give it to ourselves? Yeah. And then and really going deep into that, and depending on what it is that I'm working through, that can take a long time. It can take five minutes, it just depends. But and then at the at the end, you know, accepting that and embracing that absorbing that as a part of me. And so whenever that part of me shows up, I can say, Oh, that's just my selfishness. Not that it's bad. It's just there. What do I really want, ultimately? And what's going to help me move in that direction? Instead of just listening to my, my Zelda voice?

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Yeah, whatever additions that conditioned me no mind that still. You are in control? Yeah, yeah. I love that. Because I do that a lot with my clients cuz I only treat anxiety and you know, we talk about we pull out the worry part like that we all have this worry part that is coming up. And so what are we going to really do with it? What are we going to name? We're gonna call it what are we going to draw it? Because the minute it becomes an aspect of you, and not you? Because that is yes, here all the time. Like, people come to me. And they've been told, like, they're a depressed person. They're an anxious person, like they like,

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literally, like, totally labeled, like slept on. And when you can open up to no, like, there's a part of you that uses depression, anxiety to get your attention.

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Yes, Robin says the purpose. Exactly,

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yeah, to dig deeper, rather than say, Okay, here's this band aid in a pill or whatever we do as a society that like, No, you know, and, you know, we know through your story that, like, there was deep work that you had to do, it wasn't an overnight like, you know, try something. And the next day is like a miracle.

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Yeah. Which had happened, butterfly, you know, let's not Yeah, but see, the transformation

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is ugly sometimes. And sometimes it gets messy,

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and really messy, hard.

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So for someone listening, what is like, step one, like what's a, like a little baby step that they can begin cuz I think, you know, and I've been in the personal growth field for many, many years, and still the whole shadow thing, like, there's some resistance around going there. And so, you know, for me, for my listeners, what is like a little step that you can begin to just like, crack the resistance to, to begin to look at those things. Yeah, okay. So,

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let's see, I want to give you like, the big thing and baby step is to break it down for you. So the probably the most valuable thing that that any of us can do on a day to day life, like without having to go to an event or through a program, which I do have programs to help guide through this. But which anybody can do is is look at when those triggers come up. Because just like oh, then refreeze now you're here. I think we froze.

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Your back.

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Yeah. Okay, there we go. Okay. So, um, in day to day life, you know, we all have triggers, whether they're, they're small or big, or we completely blow up at somebody, and then we're like, oh, wow, I don't know where that came from. Well, those are, those are just like little, it's like your check engine light. It's like, oh, check this out. You know, don't just disconnect the light and pretend you didn't see it. Something needs to be looked at, it needs to be addressed, or it's going to continue to pop up until something bigger Yeah, really gets your attention. And oh, and but before I share this, I wanted to what you said about not calling ourselves like labeling ourselves this simply because we're having this emotional response. Have you heard of Dr. Caroline leaf? No. Okay, her work I discovered just a few months ago, she talks a lot very interestingly and very differently about mental health. Which she says, you know, anxiety and depression, two big ones, right? Like, they're like, come up all the time. Yes, yes. She says, she says, I don't believe that people have anxiety and are depressed. We all experience anxiety and depression, it is a human emotional response, that when we attached to it, and we say I am this, then how likely are you to actually break through whatever it is that's actually needing to be addressed? Because now I just have this to, to describe me as a person instead of 100%. Well, what what I need to act what's what's really going on beneath the surface? puts you in a victim mindset.

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And when you're a victim place, like there is no action because it's happening to you. Yeah, you can't do anything, right. So you throw your hands up and said, there's no help. Where once you can see that, like, it's maybe it's a part of your shadow, maybe it's like, an important part of your shadow to wake you up. And, you know, just that, you know, mindset shift, I think can be transformative. And like, even like one session with people just that conversation. Yes, they're lighter ships, like, like, the, like, it's lifted, which I think is so nice.

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physic, yeah. And out, basically an owl, but also, because that means Oh, now I got to take responsibility for my life. And my well being, you know, I can't just blame it on that.

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But we all have that lazy shadow aspect.

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We have, you know, and that's, that's a big part of the my shadow growing up is I just wanted to blame everybody else for my problems. And, and just not not take any responsibility. So if my husband when he was going through his stuff, the heaviest, I Oh, you're making me angry, you're making me upset. You're making me feel depressed, too. You're making me feel just angry all the time? You know? So I would. So to really lean into when those triggers pop up, and ask yourself, what is this actually trying to? What is it that I actually need to pay attention to here? Like, what is this trying to reveal to me and because our minds, you know, neurologically speaking, we what we practice we become really good at, and our unconscious thought patterns and beliefs. We've been practicing them for so long, often since we were kids, especially, you know, in that zero to seven age where things are just we're sponges to our environment. And we learn what's normal, and what love looks like, and what money looks like, and what the world is supposed to be like, and whether it's safe or not. And so we things can be so deeply rooted in our brains that we don't even recognize that it's happening below where it came from. It's not as important to know, like, when did this start, as it is to know that you have the power to shift it, but it will take some practice. And it's like you said, not an overnight thing. So if I get angry, one of the things that is the most uncomfortable, but most effective questions to ask myself is how is this done mirror of myself. And so the other day, you know, my, my daughter was really messy year and a half of this when we were both beginning to do our work around our traumas and everything. It was really messy, because we were trying to figure out our stuff, and then our things together. And then the kids are in the mix. Yeah, so so we don't have as many of these these big things come up now. But when they do recognize, oh, my God, you know, I'm mad at you for being disorganized, because really deep down, like I'm feeling insecure that I'm disorganized right now. And sometimes that can be a really hard pill to swallow. Yeah. Because what I see in you exists in me and I get, you know, pushback from people and like, but no, what about serial killers? Okay, well, how about we don't? What is it that what aspect is it in that person in the headline that triggered you? They're out of control. They're completely selfish. They're disregarding of other people. Okay, what part in you have you not owned that, have you owned that in yourself, because you own that in yourself, you can see something just for what it is with more compassion. That doesn't mean you want to go be friends with that person. But you can look at that with more compassion and less judgment and that actually clears your mind to be able to find Solutions instead of being stuck in your in your triggers and feeling emotionally trapped, yeah.

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Yeah.

35:08

So I would love to hear I always ask if there is a message of hope that you

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have for our listeners.

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Yes, yes, that you have the power to transform how you feel about yourself and how you your your, your norm in your body, your emotional climate. However, again, it takes time. So don't quit on yourself. That's the biggest, there's one thing that I really want to emphasize is don't quit. Remember, like when you have that vision of who it is that you can be who you know, deep down that you really are, and you get a little glimpse of it, you get a little taste of it. Keep coming back, remember what that felt like to keep you taking that next step towards towards that and remember that you are not your thoughts, you are not your feelings. You are not your traumas, you are not your pain. Those are all indicators have other things going on. So you get to, to use that to reclaim more of your power.

36:23

Like that. Thank you. So where can people find you? where's the best place like other than your tictac

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shodo.

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So you can go to actually go to my tic toc is actually a great place. I've got different websites for different things, but they're in my link tree. I keep that updated with whatever the current new videos are. I have a YouTube channel called pacy powered for sexual empowerment for women. And a couple programs there for the ladies. But then I also have the Shadow Work starter course in the inner child healing starter course. So So if they go to my tech talk, and if they don't have tik tok, you can look at my Instagram.

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So what are those? Just? Yeah, sure. That's a

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Yeah. Yeah. So it's Lucy lampi Liu, CIL MP, on Instagram, and Lucy lampi official on tik tok because Lucy Lambie wasn't available. I think I signed out like years ago with my kids first.

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And then I don't know what email is. Yeah.

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Oh, that's wonderful.

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