{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":18.34,"endTime":19.7,"body":"Do you want me to do a little bit of this?"},{"startTime":22.979999999999997,"endTime":26.74,"body":"You're one lucky son of a bitch, huh? You gonna leave that in there?"},{"startTime":31.9,"endTime":37.64,"body":"This podcast is intended for mature audiences only. If you're not 18 years of age or older,"},{"startTime":37.86,"endTime":42.08,"body":"there are thousands of other podcasts you can listen to and you can come back and visit us"},{"startTime":42.08,"endTime":48.08,"body":"when you are 18. This podcast is meant solely for entertainment. We are not licensed doctors,"},{"startTime":48.08,"endTime":52.519999999999996,"body":"lawyers, or therapists. We simply have a fascination with the lifestyle"},{"startTime":52.519999999999996,"endTime":55.84,"body":"and I'd love to share it with you and get your thoughts and opinions."},{"startTime":70.0,"endTime":73.46,"body":"Thanks for coming back for a listen to episode six."},{"startTime":74.92,"endTime":81.17999999999999,"body":"How exciting. Right? You made it to six. Right? So we're on location."},{"startTime":81.72,"endTime":89.61999999999999,"body":"Oh, we. I have my subbie here, my husband. He would be the male voice speaking with"},{"startTime":90.33999999999999,"endTime":94.42,"body":"in this conversation. I'm the guy that does everything behind the scenes. She has a pretty"},{"startTime":94.42,"endTime":101.78,"body":"voice. He's my bitch. Correct. So we're on location at our super secret sexy campground."},{"startTime":103.46,"endTime":108.39999999999999,"body":"Naked campground. But we're not naked. We're not. It's a little chilly to be naked where we are."},{"startTime":108.46,"endTime":115.5,"body":"Correct. Some people here are though, but not too many. Burr. One or two. I like clothes when"},{"startTime":115.5,"endTime":121.14,"body":"it's cold. It's so much more about just being laid back here than. Very laid back. Yeah."},{"startTime":122.96,"endTime":130.1,"body":"Today, we're going to talk about our relationship. The Dom sub dynamic."},{"startTime":131.36,"endTime":139.2,"body":"We're also going to talk a little bit more about what it's like to be a real submissive male. Not"},{"startTime":139.2,"endTime":148.62,"body":"the fantasy minded submissive male who isn't in a relationship like this and assumes that"},{"startTime":148.62,"endTime":155.56,"body":"this type of relationship is being dragged around by your dick and. However, I am not opposed to"},{"startTime":155.56,"endTime":162.04,"body":"this. No, but when there are children about. Yeah, we have a few of them. Yeah. That's kind"},{"startTime":162.04,"endTime":168.38,"body":"of a no go. Yeah. So there's a reality part to all of this. It's kind of a how to be in a Dom"},{"startTime":168.38,"endTime":174.84,"body":"sub relationship while living the vanilla lifestyle. Yes. What a great title. So let's start with us."},{"startTime":174.84,"endTime":178.88,"body":"Well, I mean, we're pretty awesome. I don't know that we're going to put that in there."},{"startTime":179.56,"endTime":186.1,"body":"What? So you brought everybody pretty much up to speed to where we are. Yes. Pretty much. I think"},{"startTime":186.1,"endTime":194.28,"body":"you last left off with. So we last left off with talking about the social networking slash. Oh,"},{"startTime":194.29999999999998,"endTime":202.66,"body":"that's right. You talked about fat. Right. Yep. And our munch experience. And before that,"},{"startTime":202.66,"endTime":207.1,"body":"we talked about my little side action where. That's right. You got to hear a man fuck your"},{"startTime":207.1,"endTime":213.24,"body":"wife. Correct. I got to hear sort of hearing. Yeah. We didn't really get to see. No, I didn't"},{"startTime":213.24,"endTime":218.35999999999999,"body":"really get to hear either. I just looked at the ceiling while you were getting fucked."},{"startTime":219.12,"endTime":224.06,"body":"Sorry about your luck. Are you, though? No. So, yeah, you're kind of caught up to where we are."},{"startTime":224.5,"endTime":230.66,"body":"There's a few more stories, I'm sure, between then and now, but she runs the show."},{"startTime":231.16,"endTime":240.1,"body":"Mm hmm. And. Our dynamic is very simple. It's simplistic. It's what works for our lifestyle"},{"startTime":240.1,"endTime":247.66,"body":"with the amount of children and people living in our home. Yes. However, it is very apparent"},{"startTime":247.66,"endTime":253.48,"body":"who runs the show in our house. Actually, from the outside looking in, there may be a hint of"},{"startTime":253.48,"endTime":262.36,"body":"what's going on underneath. And of course, there's joking, you know, but people think that"},{"startTime":262.36,"endTime":272.85,"body":"we're choking, but we're not really joking. I provide protect all that stuff. Miss Christine"},{"startTime":273.61,"endTime":279.39,"body":"is basically stay home mom. Some of it has to do with the covid situation right now,"},{"startTime":279.99,"endTime":287.53,"body":"but you would be home otherwise because of your voiceover career. Correct. So that means that you"},{"startTime":287.53,"endTime":294.27,"body":"don't leave the house, don't need to. And come Minnesota wintertime, that's going to be very"},{"startTime":294.27,"endTime":301.87,"body":"nice. Yes, it is. We're very excited about that. So I do my normal eight to 10 to 12 hours,"},{"startTime":301.99,"endTime":308.63,"body":"whatever that is, and come home. And from the typical understanding is I would I should come"},{"startTime":308.63,"endTime":312.69,"body":"home and do all the cooking, all the cleaning, stuff like that. And that happens sometimes."},{"startTime":313.43,"endTime":319.99,"body":"But in the reality part of the relationship, you recognize that me coming home and doing that,"},{"startTime":320.27,"endTime":326.27,"body":"all that stuff just kind of seems silly. So you take over and do the things when I'm not"},{"startTime":326.27,"endTime":335.01,"body":"able to necessarily. Right. You're working 10, 12, sometimes 18 hour days. And I mean,"},{"startTime":335.01,"endTime":339.03,"body":"the rest of the family needs to eat if you're not home late. But I always try to make sure that you"},{"startTime":339.03,"endTime":343.45,"body":"have at least a hot meal. Your job is very labor intensive. I don't like you to come home and have"},{"startTime":343.45,"endTime":350.83,"body":"to make yourself supper. Now, that being said, if he only works till say two or three, then there's"},{"startTime":350.83,"endTime":358.69,"body":"no reason he can't cook supper. I'm not opposed to that. Yes. It's a team effort. Yeah, it is very"},{"startTime":358.69,"endTime":362.53,"body":"much a team effort. And actually, we think that that's very important to show our kids as they're"},{"startTime":362.53,"endTime":371.63,"body":"growing up that both of us are getting things done versus one doing something and the other"},{"startTime":371.63,"endTime":376.87,"body":"just sitting around. Well, and I think too, our kids can see the amount of respect that you have"},{"startTime":376.87,"endTime":382.81,"body":"for me. Respect is a big, big part of a dom-sub relationship or a female-led relationship."},{"startTime":383.29,"endTime":390.05,"body":"You have to be in the right mindset. You have to respect your partner. And our kids, I think,"},{"startTime":390.05,"endTime":395.45,"body":"definitely pick up on the respect aspect of how you treat me. Right. There's always the"},{"startTime":395.45,"endTime":399.83,"body":"joke that your balls are in my purse. That's fine. That's where they belong. It's kind of"},{"startTime":399.83,"endTime":407.71,"body":"this situation. Anyways, I think even if you remove the dom-sub female relationship thing,"},{"startTime":408.15,"endTime":416.19,"body":"female-led, I think that it's good to teach the kids that the woman should be respected anyways."},{"startTime":416.19,"endTime":425.85,"body":"I agree. And vice versa, the man respected as well. We're not waiting for the other one to"},{"startTime":425.85,"endTime":430.63,"body":"leave the house and completely bad mouth. Do you suppose that leaf blower is going"},{"startTime":430.63,"endTime":433.65,"body":"to show up on here? Probably. Do you want me to do a little bit of this?"},{"startTime":437.40999999999997,"endTime":441.09,"body":"You're one lucky son of a bitch, huh? You're going to leave that in there?"},{"startTime":441.61,"endTime":448.33,"body":"Mm-hmm. So we're talking about the kids. And the amount of respect that we have in our"},{"startTime":448.33,"endTime":453.23,"body":"household. Before we're interrupted by the leaf blower next door. The blow job. So clearly,"},{"startTime":454.55,"endTime":459.71,"body":"there is no me leading you around the house by a leash on your cock cage."},{"startTime":460.61,"endTime":468.23,"body":"There is no you're doing things for me naked. I'm not beating you on a daily with a flogger."},{"startTime":468.23,"endTime":474.65,"body":"However, again, not opposed. Ooh, acorn. Holy crap. That was really loud."},{"startTime":476.15,"endTime":483.87,"body":"You have to have some subtleties when you're practicing a dom-sub relationship in a vanilla"},{"startTime":483.87,"endTime":488.57,"body":"lifestyle. That is the key word, subtleties. It can absolutely be done though. Yep."},{"startTime":489.23,"endTime":495.71,"body":"I think we're pretty good at it. I think that a lot of it has to do with how we show affection."},{"startTime":495.71,"endTime":502.79,"body":"Mm-hmm. A lot of it has to do with the unsaid. Mm-hmm."},{"startTime":504.59,"endTime":508.99,"body":"Nonverbal is what I want to say. Yeah. And there's things like that I want you to do,"},{"startTime":509.09,"endTime":514.61,"body":"that I tell you to do. But generally, when the kids are around, it's not a stern do this. It's"},{"startTime":514.61,"endTime":521.1700000000001,"body":"more of a, I tell you what I need. And then at the end, I will add a please just to show that."},{"startTime":522.03,"endTime":529.48,"body":"Now, if we didn't have kids around, it would probably be more of an order. Right. But you"},{"startTime":529.48,"endTime":534.52,"body":"giving me foot massages and things like that is totally normal around our house. You're just not"},{"startTime":534.52,"endTime":542.29,"body":"naked and on your hands and knees while you're doing it. Right. Someday. So that kind of bridges"},{"startTime":542.29,"endTime":554.75,"body":"to what is it really like to be a submissive husband? In conversations on say, when we were"},{"startTime":554.75,"endTime":564.13,"body":"on kick or when adult friend finder or SLS or whatever one we're on, in talking to other guys,"},{"startTime":564.43,"endTime":569.71,"body":"it really seems like guys get themselves so whipped up about this type of relationship"},{"startTime":569.71,"endTime":576.6899999999999,"body":"that they think that 24 seven, you know, things are being shoved in their ass or"},{"startTime":577.41,"endTime":585.29,"body":"their balls are getting kicked or, you know. Now, don't get me wrong. He will be standing"},{"startTime":585.29,"endTime":591.09,"body":"in the kitchen and I'll give him a little tap. Right. There is little subtle hints of that."},{"startTime":591.31,"endTime":596.51,"body":"Again, with the subtlety. Yeah. Right. It exists, but it's not the full on BDSM"},{"startTime":596.51,"endTime":604.1899999999999,"body":"relationship 24 seven. Right. You know, from a porn hub. Yeah. Or whatever. Yeah. You know,"},{"startTime":604.85,"endTime":613.81,"body":"it's you have to you have to balance some reality with what you want. So if you're a"},{"startTime":613.81,"endTime":619.29,"body":"submissive husband, I think the very first thing you need to get your head wrapped around is being"},{"startTime":620.87,"endTime":628.53,"body":"submissive to your wife or your girlfriend. You need to submit to them. So by submitting,"},{"startTime":629.1899999999999,"endTime":634.79,"body":"I think one of the best and first things to do is to be in chastity."},{"startTime":635.63,"endTime":643.81,"body":"Well, I of course agree 100%. I think that you can't be submissive and be a chronic masturbator."},{"startTime":643.81,"endTime":651.67,"body":"I would agree with that. That's I mean, masturbation is a very selfish"},{"startTime":652.91,"endTime":658.95,"body":"action. Wait, let me caveat that because you can masturbate when directed to. Yes."},{"startTime":659.41,"endTime":666.71,"body":"Which is fucking hot. Yes. So if your dominant wife enjoys watching you or feeling you masturbate"},{"startTime":666.71,"endTime":672.39,"body":"and she tells you to do that, then by all means, it's a big fucking number one for me. Good."},{"startTime":673.91,"endTime":680.91,"body":"However, that is her decision to make, not yours. So when you are deciding to place"},{"startTime":682.05,"endTime":692.45,"body":"priority or importance on your orgasm, you are now taking that priority and importance away from your"},{"startTime":693.33,"endTime":697.29,"body":"dominant wife, your wife, your mistress, whatever you want to call her."},{"startTime":698.23,"endTime":707.29,"body":"You're replacing her with your selfish orgasm. That's pretty deep. Right? I agree. So when you're"},{"startTime":707.29,"endTime":716.01,"body":"in chastity, you're in your little cock cage and she holds the key for that. You are completely"},{"startTime":716.01,"endTime":722.85,"body":"submitting. You're giving so much control to her. You're also placing an amazing amount of trust in"},{"startTime":722.85,"endTime":729.83,"body":"her, which I think is number one in a dom sub relationship. Trust, honesty, communication,"},{"startTime":730.57,"endTime":737.03,"body":"communication. Yep. So that is a huge first step. I mean, if you really want to be a submissive"},{"startTime":737.03,"endTime":742.95,"body":"husband, that is one of the very first big steps. Yep. Once you get past that step, then everything"},{"startTime":742.95,"endTime":748.55,"body":"kind of falls into place. The nice thing about the chastity too, is you have the weight of the"},{"startTime":748.55,"endTime":754.95,"body":"cage as a reminder. Oh yeah. Especially if you have a metal one, a heavier one, like eyewear."},{"startTime":755.47,"endTime":759.63,"body":"They do make the plastic ones and the rubber ones that just don't seem to have the..."},{"startTime":760.25,"endTime":765.07,"body":"They're more of a novelty, it seems. Maybe for somebody who doesn't do it full time."},{"startTime":765.15,"endTime":767.93,"body":"Right. Which is fine. You don't have... You absolutely don't have to."},{"startTime":768.13,"endTime":776.29,"body":"Right. We choose to. And that's the choice that I've made to show her my level of"},{"startTime":777.23,"endTime":784.63,"body":"my submission. And I wear the key around my neck. The kids think it's the key to his heart."},{"startTime":785.57,"endTime":788.6899999999999,"body":"With the exception of one of the friends who doesn't believe it. Yeah."},{"startTime":789.29,"endTime":796.11,"body":"That's funny. So once you cross that bridge of chastity and you're on the other side,"},{"startTime":796.1899999999999,"endTime":803.97,"body":"like I was saying, things kind of fall into place. I naturally feel like doing things for you."},{"startTime":803.97,"endTime":811.77,"body":"You are my priority. As I should be. Every decision that I make, every action that I do"},{"startTime":812.61,"endTime":818.83,"body":"revolves around, is this making you happy? That's the first question that I ask myself."},{"startTime":818.91,"endTime":826.49,"body":"Right. And on that same note, I noticed that you are much more observant of making sure that you..."},{"startTime":827.21,"endTime":832.47,"body":"If he's at work and he wants to stop and get a soda, he will text me and say,"},{"startTime":832.47,"endTime":838.51,"body":"is it okay if I stop and get a soda? And I've noticed that when the cage is on,"},{"startTime":838.57,"endTime":841.21,"body":"you do that pretty much all the time, whether the cage is on or not."},{"startTime":841.41,"endTime":845.11,"body":"Because I'm in that state of mind now. But it is much more..."},{"startTime":847.09,"endTime":852.91,"body":"It's heightened, maybe? It's heightened. It's more of a routine"},{"startTime":852.91,"endTime":857.39,"body":"for you. Not maybe a routine. It's more in your mind, up front and center that,"},{"startTime":857.39,"endTime":861.37,"body":"hey, I want to get a soda. I'm going to text her and see if it's okay if I get one."},{"startTime":863.89,"endTime":868.05,"body":"So that's one thing too, is if you're going to participate in a relationship like this,"},{"startTime":868.17,"endTime":871.43,"body":"communication is key. You have to sit down and discuss what you both want,"},{"startTime":871.53,"endTime":876.01,"body":"because not everybody is like us. Not everybody has to be or wants to be in chastity."},{"startTime":877.03,"endTime":879.87,"body":"General consensus, when we talk to people about our relationship,"},{"startTime":880.61,"endTime":886.59,"body":"that chastity is a hard no for the men. And chastity being a hard no for a supposed"},{"startTime":887.15,"endTime":891.21,"body":"submissive male is really hard for me to wrap my head around."},{"startTime":891.53,"endTime":895.1899999999999,"body":"Well, and I do think though maybe it has something to do with it being,"},{"startTime":895.25,"endTime":900.79,"body":"if it's somebody new to the whole DomSub thing, maybe it's something that they work into. I mean,"},{"startTime":900.83,"endTime":905.59,"body":"we didn't kick off right from the start with the cock cage. However, it wasn't long."},{"startTime":905.85,"endTime":910.75,"body":"Right. As we were learning, we evolved and implemented things or whatever."},{"startTime":910.75,"endTime":917.53,"body":"I think that somebody that is new to this, like you're saying, chastity then is part of"},{"startTime":917.53,"endTime":923.57,"body":"one of the things you learn about, just like we did. So if you are new to this whole thing,"},{"startTime":924.17,"endTime":927.13,"body":"welcome aboard. Right. It's fucking fantastic."},{"startTime":927.93,"endTime":937.95,"body":"And please don't take it as I'm being a dick and talking down to people about what their choices"},{"startTime":937.95,"endTime":943.71,"body":"are one way or the other. I'm just saying for me, it's hard to wrap my head around being a"},{"startTime":943.71,"endTime":950.37,"body":"submissive male to your wife slash girlfriend, boyfriend, honestly, whatever it is. If you are"},{"startTime":950.37,"endTime":957.29,"body":"truly submissive, then you have to submit. And I think that a key part of that is chastity because"},{"startTime":959.17,"endTime":962.35,"body":"submission is no longer about your desires. Right."},{"startTime":963.35,"endTime":969.25,"body":"You know, your your dominant will take care of you. Your dominant will make sure that you're"},{"startTime":969.25,"endTime":975.93,"body":"happy on whatever level he she feels, you know, works for you."},{"startTime":976.11,"endTime":981.15,"body":"Well, and it's all it's all a learning process. I mean, we've had so many fuck ups along the way"},{"startTime":981.15,"endTime":985.03,"body":"or things that we're like, yeah, we do not like that. We're not doing that. Or hey, let's give"},{"startTime":985.03,"endTime":990.89,"body":"that a try. Right. We are the least judgmental people. Right. We're not saying this is how it"},{"startTime":990.89,"endTime":996.79,"body":"has to be to be successful. We're just telling you what we have found to be successful for us."},{"startTime":997.1899999999999,"endTime":1003.49,"body":"Right. And it's not for everybody by any means. Right. The cock cage is fucking fantastic."},{"startTime":1003.89,"endTime":1010.11,"body":"I love it. I do, too. But it doesn't have to be that way. You have to figure out what works"},{"startTime":1010.11,"endTime":1016.51,"body":"best for you and your partner. Right. We're just here to tell you what we like and we're here to"},{"startTime":1016.51,"endTime":1022.45,"body":"tell you what we've experienced. And I mean, fuck, if you have questions, reach out. I am happy."},{"startTime":1022.85,"endTime":1028.91,"body":"For sure. To answer what I can. For sure. Either one of us. I'd love to answer questions. So I"},{"startTime":1028.91,"endTime":1033.53,"body":"wasn't trying to be a dick. I really apologize if I sounded like a dick. I didn't think you"},{"startTime":1033.53,"endTime":1039.8500000000001,"body":"sound like a dick. OK. I'd kick in. I just think it's important. I totally see that aspect because"},{"startTime":1039.8500000000001,"endTime":1044.1100000000001,"body":"you are very attentive normally, but you are much more attentive with that cage on."},{"startTime":1044.1100000000001,"endTime":1049.0500000000002,"body":"It is much more front and center in your brain when you have that weight on your cock."},{"startTime":1050.229,"endTime":1061.65,"body":"Plus, all of that aside, right. Think of how exciting or dangerous it is for guys,"},{"startTime":1061.969,"endTime":1068.5900000000001,"body":"you to be in your cage and women, you to be wearing your key around family events,"},{"startTime":1069.3300000000002,"endTime":1077.19,"body":"vanilla friends, church. Yeah. Whatever it is, you are carrying your relationship 24-7 to all"},{"startTime":1077.19,"endTime":1081.5900000000001,"body":"of these places, basically wide out in the open. You have to be careful for metal detectors."},{"startTime":1082.0700000000002,"endTime":1086.73,"body":"That could be another episode, actually. Oh, shit. I'd love to tell that story."},{"startTime":1086.8700000000001,"endTime":1093.3500000000001,"body":"Well, that and the wild game. Yes. Those are two stories in one. Let me rephrase that."},{"startTime":1093.97,"endTime":1099.8700000000001,"body":"That and the night of our wedding. Right. The other thing about this is that not everybody"},{"startTime":1099.8700000000001,"endTime":1106.0900000000001,"body":"needs to know your business. Correct. You know, there are people that you can talk openly with"},{"startTime":1106.7900000000002,"endTime":1112.89,"body":"and then there are people that just don't need to know. Well, and the whole there's a whole spin to"},{"startTime":1112.89,"endTime":1120.41,"body":"that, too. I have a lot of friends from my hometown that don't know. And I'm to a point now where I do"},{"startTime":1120.41,"endTime":1126.67,"body":"for a living and I live my life the way I want to live my life. And you have liked me this long and"},{"startTime":1126.67,"endTime":1132.67,"body":"I have been living this way for six years. So if you find out about it and you choose to not like"},{"startTime":1132.67,"endTime":1138.65,"body":"me anymore, that's on you. And I'm really sorry about it. But I mean, you have to prepare yourself"},{"startTime":1138.65,"endTime":1145.95,"body":"and be in a mental state of mind of this is OK. It's not don't ever let anybody make you feel bad"},{"startTime":1145.95,"endTime":1151.0100000000002,"body":"for what you're doing. It's your life, your choices, your partner, your partner's choices."},{"startTime":1151.21,"endTime":1156.5700000000002,"body":"Right. This has nothing to do with anybody else. Don't ever feel guilty because you choose to live"},{"startTime":1156.5700000000002,"endTime":1162.15,"body":"this lifestyle. And to be honest, this lifestyle between my husband and I, we have the best"},{"startTime":1162.15,"endTime":1168.75,"body":"relationship I've ever had in my entire life. The most honesty, the most trust. He is literally my"},{"startTime":1168.75,"endTime":1174.15,"body":"best friend. I can tell him anything. And how many other married couples can say that? Because I know"},{"startTime":1174.15,"endTime":1180.45,"body":"there's a lot that there is so many things that I have said to you and will say to you that in"},{"startTime":1180.45,"endTime":1190.19,"body":"previous relationships I would have never felt comfortable or confident or safe to say or ask."},{"startTime":1190.63,"endTime":1196.5100000000002,"body":"I can come to you with absolutely anything. And I think that's how it should be in America. And"},{"startTime":1196.5100000000002,"endTime":1202.23,"body":"it just so happens that we have a dom sub female led relationship. Right. And, you know, my hometown"},{"startTime":1202.23,"endTime":1206.8700000000001,"body":"friends, if they don't like it, I'm sorry, I'm happy. And this is how I choose to live my life."},{"startTime":1206.97,"endTime":1210.95,"body":"It's funny, though, because I think that they kind of assume it anyways."},{"startTime":1211.21,"endTime":1211.6100000000001,"body":"Oh, I'm sure."},{"startTime":1211.6100000000001,"endTime":1217.69,"body":"Because they see how I act and how I treat you when we are around them. And it's"},{"startTime":1219.0700000000002,"endTime":1227.99,"body":"kind of nice to be able to be to be that role or be that that man for you around them and show them,"},{"startTime":1228.75,"endTime":1235.3100000000002,"body":"um, honestly, show them what a relationship could be like, you know, how important the woman"},{"startTime":1235.3100000000002,"endTime":1241.19,"body":"could be and how unimportant the man could be in the man's eyes."},{"startTime":1241.41,"endTime":1246.21,"body":"Yep. And this doesn't necessarily have to be where the female is the dom either. In most cases,"},{"startTime":1246.21,"endTime":1251.75,"body":"the man is. Right. Well, a lot of times I shouldn't say in most cases, but I mean,"},{"startTime":1251.75,"endTime":1255.73,"body":"there is absolutely instances where the woman chooses to be the submissive."},{"startTime":1255.73,"endTime":1259.75,"body":"Right. And it's still the same dynamic. I think there's still trust,"},{"startTime":1260.0500000000002,"endTime":1264.5900000000001,"body":"honesty and communication. Absolutely. I mean, it's honestly a very healthy relationship."},{"startTime":1265.19,"endTime":1271.65,"body":"Yep. It can be as long as you have those foundations, as long as you have that trust,"},{"startTime":1271.89,"endTime":1279.45,"body":"that communication, that honesty, that when you hand your power over that it's not abused,"},{"startTime":1280.13,"endTime":1290.73,"body":"you know, um, I, I'm, I'm well aware of some dom sub relationships that are not"},{"startTime":1291.5300000000002,"endTime":1298.63,"body":"right. You know, they're just mean. Yeah. And that's not love. No. At all. That's,"},{"startTime":1298.73,"endTime":1304.5100000000002,"body":"that may be fantasy for a weekend or something. Yeah. But that's not relationship material."},{"startTime":1304.5100000000002,"endTime":1310.13,"body":"And you can't be like that 24 seven, there has to be some downtime. You have to have some time"},{"startTime":1310.13,"endTime":1316.43,"body":"where, you know, your submissive gets some time off and can have some, just some personal time."},{"startTime":1316.5100000000002,"endTime":1320.69,"body":"You know what I mean? Yeah. And I mean, the other thing too, is like you were saying,"},{"startTime":1321.47,"endTime":1327.47,"body":"um, we're not, we're not this way 24. I mean, we are this way 24 seven, but there are moments"},{"startTime":1327.47,"endTime":1335.7900000000002,"body":"where you ask me for my help. You lean on me for support. You, you vent to me just to vent,"},{"startTime":1336.15,"endTime":1341.0100000000002,"body":"or you, you, you know, get my opinion on things, ask me to help with things or whatever."},{"startTime":1341.43,"endTime":1347.41,"body":"That doesn't make you a submissive by any means. No. It, it means that you know that you can lean"},{"startTime":1347.41,"endTime":1353.3300000000002,"body":"on me for these situations. Right. He absolutely has strengths that I don't have. And I rely on that"},{"startTime":1354.39,"endTime":1360.8100000000002,"body":"pretty significantly for some things, you know, you handle, you handle the, the work aspect for"},{"startTime":1360.8100000000002,"endTime":1367.0100000000002,"body":"the voiceover stuff and all of that. And I help when I can, but a lot of that falls on your"},{"startTime":1367.0100000000002,"endTime":1373.49,"body":"shoulders because that's your area of strength. Right. I'm learning, but there has to be some"},{"startTime":1373.49,"endTime":1379.99,"body":"give and take. I mean, there's, there's a lot of normalcies about if whatever you consider normal"},{"startTime":1379.99,"endTime":1384.8100000000002,"body":"in our relationship, I mean, we have regular day-to-day things. I handle certain things."},{"startTime":1384.93,"endTime":1389.21,"body":"You handle certain things. It's just the roles we assume. And that's where the communication"},{"startTime":1389.21,"endTime":1393.65,"body":"also comes into play because you have to communicate, you know, Hey, listen,"},{"startTime":1393.8700000000001,"endTime":1397.8300000000002,"body":"this is what I'm going to take care of. This is what you can take care of. Or, you know,"},{"startTime":1397.91,"endTime":1401.6100000000001,"body":"you each volunteer for a certain part. I mean, it takes a lot to make a household run smoothly,"},{"startTime":1401.6100000000001,"endTime":1405.67,"body":"especially with kids and, you know, other people living with you and things like that."},{"startTime":1406.23,"endTime":1408.89,"body":"Exactly. And that's part of maintaining the whole vanilla side of it too."},{"startTime":1408.89,"endTime":1414.0700000000002,"body":"Yeah. We're a fucking fantastic team. Oh, we are. I mean, things would literally,"},{"startTime":1414.0700000000002,"endTime":1419.6100000000001,"body":"would literally fall apart if we didn't have the communication that we have. We adapt to change"},{"startTime":1420.2700000000002,"endTime":1429.71,"body":"like nobody I've ever met because shit changes all the time. You know, Monday morning you could"},{"startTime":1429.71,"endTime":1435.97,"body":"start out with one frame of mind. Monday at noon, it's completely different. You know,"},{"startTime":1435.97,"endTime":1440.73,"body":"we really have to be fluent. Right. We just have to be able there. You just have to go with"},{"startTime":1440.73,"endTime":1448.21,"body":"the flow of things. Right. We, during the camping season, we typically come up to our little oasis"},{"startTime":1448.21,"endTime":1457.8100000000002,"body":"up here and you know, that's on our mind from Monday morning on and we get to Friday and some"},{"startTime":1457.8100000000002,"endTime":1464.6100000000001,"body":"parameter has changed. Some somebody's made a decision that doesn't fall in line with what we"},{"startTime":1464.6100000000001,"endTime":1470.99,"body":"and we just, we just have to adapt. We just rearrange. Right. But we do that well because"},{"startTime":1470.99,"endTime":1478.21,"body":"we are, we are a good team, you know? So I think an overview of everything. She just happens to"},{"startTime":1478.21,"endTime":1482.99,"body":"like to kick me in the nuts. I do a little bit. I also like it with some nice high heel shoes on."},{"startTime":1483.15,"endTime":1491.5100000000002,"body":"Yes. Overall. But we digress. But we digress. Overview. To be in a dom sub relationship,"},{"startTime":1491.5100000000002,"endTime":1499.7700000000002,"body":"you need to have trust communication. Honesty. Honesty is a big one. Yep. Yep. And I know we"},{"startTime":1499.7700000000002,"endTime":1503.93,"body":"keep saying that, but if that's the one thing you get out of this whole podcast, that's the"},{"startTime":1503.93,"endTime":1508.65,"body":"most important is those three factors. Completely agree. And you'll be amazed at how much closer"},{"startTime":1508.65,"endTime":1513.95,"body":"you feel with your partner. Absolutely. It's insane. Both sides for sure. Correct. And I think"},{"startTime":1513.95,"endTime":1520.49,"body":"everybody has this misconception that submissive people are weak and that is not the case at all."},{"startTime":1520.49,"endTime":1525.3300000000002,"body":"The submissive is actually probably the stronger of the two. Sometimes, yeah. Because they are"},{"startTime":1525.3300000000002,"endTime":1531.73,"body":"submitting everything. They are the ones that, you know, if it is where there's a play situation"},{"startTime":1531.73,"endTime":1538.71,"body":"or just in general where there is, you know, flogging or nut kicking or whatever it is,"},{"startTime":1538.8700000000001,"endTime":1545.3100000000002,"body":"and the responsibilities are, you know, like in your case, you're working to provide for the family"},{"startTime":1545.3100000000002,"endTime":1551.39,"body":"and then, I mean, you just really have to take a step back and look at it from both roles."},{"startTime":1553.2900000000002,"endTime":1557.7900000000002,"body":"I think you need to make sure you appreciate your submissive. I mean, you have to take"},{"startTime":1557.7900000000002,"endTime":1561.99,"body":"care of them. You have to show that you, you know, that you're going to take care of them."},{"startTime":1562.45,"endTime":1571.5500000000002,"body":"Right. And the submissive can rest well in the fact that the dominant will take care of them."},{"startTime":1572.8100000000002,"endTime":1578.0700000000002,"body":"It's, that's part of the give and take. I think a little hidden tidbit too about"},{"startTime":1578.0700000000002,"endTime":1582.41,"body":"a dumb subrelationship is deep down, the submissive is pretty much in control"},{"startTime":1582.41,"endTime":1588.47,"body":"because they're choosing to be submissive. That's what I've heard. Yes. I haven't fully grasped"},{"startTime":1588.47,"endTime":1593.0100000000002,"body":"that concept yet. Yeah. However, I can see where that would ring true. Yeah. I mean,"},{"startTime":1593.0100000000002,"endTime":1599.19,"body":"you don't really control what I do. I do what I want. Yep. But I think there is a certain amount"},{"startTime":1599.19,"endTime":1604.19,"body":"of control that you have being the submissive in our relationship because you're choosing"},{"startTime":1604.91,"endTime":1610.3100000000002,"body":"to be submissive to me. Right. Which essentially the control's in your court. Right. If we decided"},{"startTime":1610.3100000000002,"endTime":1616.21,"body":"to, you know, I'm done. I don't want to do this anymore. Right. And there's a whole, you know,"},{"startTime":1616.67,"endTime":1619.69,"body":"safe word thing about that too. Oh yeah. Everybody should have a safe word. I think"},{"startTime":1619.69,"endTime":1624.99,"body":"I said that in the last episode too. Yeah. Safe word is crucial. Yep. No, the safe word isn't"},{"startTime":1624.99,"endTime":1632.3500000000001,"body":"crucial. The safe word is cease. Our safe word is cease. Yeah. But it is crucial to have a safe word."},{"startTime":1632.73,"endTime":1637.0300000000002,"body":"Right. Is there anything else? I don't know. I think we talked about,"},{"startTime":1638.0500000000002,"endTime":1644.97,"body":"we touched on a lot, I think. And I think we can maybe have conversations in the future."},{"startTime":1645.17,"endTime":1650.5300000000002,"body":"If that was good enough for this. We might bring you back. We'll see. Okay."},{"startTime":1650.5300000000002,"endTime":1658.5300000000002,"body":"What are you going to talk about next week? Well, we're coming into October. Oh yes,"},{"startTime":1658.5900000000001,"endTime":1663.17,"body":"that will be. So we'll be talking about that probably. I'm sorry, you'll be talking about"},{"startTime":1663.17,"endTime":1667.73,"body":"that. Yes. It won't be we because I don't have a turd in my pocket. No, but you may have a guest."},{"startTime":1668.15,"endTime":1673.15,"body":"I may. I don't. We'll have to see. We're working on a guest for you. That's exciting. It may not"},{"startTime":1673.15,"endTime":1678.0700000000002,"body":"be next week. It may be the following week. Right. Next week, I think. Next week we should"},{"startTime":1678.0700000000002,"endTime":1686.3700000000001,"body":"talk about chastity. And it will be very similar to the dumb sub portion of it. However, we're going"},{"startTime":1686.3700000000001,"endTime":1693.5500000000002,"body":"to go a little bit more in depth about chastity, what it means and safety measures. And we'll"},{"startTime":1693.5500000000002,"endTime":1701.69,"body":"probably cover the metal detector. Yeah. Or even just TSA. Or even just TSA in general. Yeah."},{"startTime":1702.3700000000001,"endTime":1706.8300000000002,"body":"That's a good story. Yeah, it is a good story. Well, thank you for having me."},{"startTime":1707.45,"endTime":1711.3300000000002,"body":"Thanks for being on my podcast. You're the best ever. I know."}]}